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Yankees bullpen throws zeroes

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 15, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Austin Romine, Mariano RiveraThe Yankees’ bullpen has been a big reason why they are where they are right now, at 25-14 and in first place after winning seven of their last eight.

After Tuesday night’s 4-3 win over the Mariners (my story on their 11th comeback win and surviving a King Felix start), the relievers hadn’t given up a run over their last nine games, covering 23 2/3 innings. Their combined ERA for May is 0.77 (three earned runs in 35 innings). The group has 36 strikeouts and seven walks to show for this stretch.

“It’s unbelievable,” CC Sabathia said. “We knew coming into the season that would be one of the strong points on the team. They haven’t disappointed.”

Shawn Kelley came in for Sabathia Tuesday night with runners at the corners and one gone in the seventh. Strikeout. Line out. Inning over. The righty has fanned seven of the last nine batters he has faced. He owns 25 Ks in 15 1/3 innings this season.

Mariano Rivera came on for the ninth. Fly ball. Fly ball. K. Game over. The 43-year-old greatest-of-all-time closer is off to a 16-for-16 start on saves after 39 games. It’s the fewest number of team games he has needed to reach 16 saves. The latest save made him 35 for his last 35 at home and 17 for 17 at home against Seattle in his career.

Overall, the Yankees are now 8-2 in one-run games.

“I think winning those games are extremely important,” Joe Girardi said. “Those games can have a real effect when you start losing them.

“Our bullpen has done a great job for us this year. We’ve had a lot of close games. Mo has 16 saves already. That’s quite a pace that he’s on. We haven’t had to use him in games where we’re not winning because he’s got so many opportunities. The ones that you’re ahead, you need to win. If you want to play in the month of October, you have to win those games.”

Also, here’s a link to my story today on Curtis Granderson’s comeback journey and my Yankees notebook with items on Travis Hafner’s shoulder problem, Vidal Nuno’s departure and David Adams.

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420 Responses to “Yankees bullpen throws zeroes”

  1. blake May 15th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Shawn Kelley got good all the sudden.

  2. Mike Ri May 15th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    props to the bullpen ! keep it up boys !

  3. jacksquat May 15th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 7:46 am
    “It’s been reported the M’s SP do not like throwing to Montero””

    some of us actually provide links to information to back up our statements.

    http://seattletimes.com/html/m…..ners09.htm

    In fact, those two fellow Venezuelans have built a nice rapport, with Montero catching all but one of Felix’s starts this season. Hernandez has a 5-1 record and 1.03 earned-run average in those seven starts with Montero behind the plate, and a 1.84 ERA in 13 career games throwing to Montero.

    “That’s crazy what’s happening,” Montero said. “He pitches, I hit a homer. He wins. Unbelievable. Everybody knows he’s talented. He’s so good. Everything today was working — curveball, changeup, slider, fastball, sinker, everything.”

    Hernandez, however, rated his stuff as merely “OK — not good as normally, but it was good.” He noted that Montero “is maturing a lot. Behind the plate, he’s doing a lot better. He’s pretty good back there.”

    How many times are you going to post this? It’s worthless. So the venezuelan pitcher is trying to support his fellow venezuelan catcher, that’s probably what it boils down to, because it sure isn’t Montero’s catching or hitting. Felix is going to pitch well no matter who the catcher is, because he is an excellent pitcher. Montero didn’t catch or even DH against a lhp last night. You are grasping. Montero is hitting .200 and has thrown out one of 17 stolen base attempts. You look like a fool still posting this crap.

  4. upstate kate May 15th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    I had to look to see where Shawn Kelley came from. I didn’t realize he is a former Mariner.

  5. Yankee Trader May 15th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Blake-

    Maybe the Yankees will fool us. Thomas Neal is back from a DL stint and is hitting .308, with OPS .734.

    Maybe they just keep Nelson and add righty, Neal to replace Francisco?

  6. blake May 15th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    “When Yankees injuries mounted and the coming season looked bleaker late in spring, Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos told me he would not downgrade them. He noted the Yankees had made the playoffs 14 times in Cashman’s 15 seasons as GM and, “so I am going to bet on Brian Cashman. He knows how to solve problems.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....mUtTo2s4pL

  7. blake May 15th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Trader,

    maybe…….I’ve grown not to question the Yankees when it comes to moving these secondary pieces around. They get it right more often than not….

  8. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Logically, I think Kelly was just building up arm strength. He’s had success before.

    The Yankees are top notch in reclamation BP arms. They’re willing to take a chance. There’s the occasional Aardsma but they keep finding nuggets.

  9. Yankee Trader May 15th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Chamberlain pitched an inning last night night giving up 2 singles after two outs, then getting out of it with a fly ball out.

    Don’t think Rapada will be up anytime soon. One inning, 3 runs, 7.36 ERA.

    Bases loaded via single, walk , single. Two walks and sac fly plate 3 runs.

  10. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Aardsma was even a good risk….just didn’t work out cause he never got his arm strength back (which is a little strange as guys usually do after TJS).

    The Yanks can build a bullpen…..they might be the best in baseball at doing that

  11. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    The Yanks are 25-14 almost entirely because of how well they have pitched…..both rotation and bullpen. They are scoring some timely runs and scoring enough to win but the fact is that the runs they are scoring wouldn’t be enough on most nights if they weren’t pitching like they are as a team.

    If they continue to pitch this lights out then the offense may be good enough…..if not then they are gonna need to score more runs at some point IMO.

  12. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    blake -

    That’s likely true.

    It would be unexpected, I think, for the offense to pick up a very poor pitching performance.

    The bullpen’s been great and Mo has been unbelievable. What will be interesting is when they have more than two or three consecutive one or two run games and are in a position where Mo is not available to close – who will be their go-to guy?

  13. Yankee Trader May 15th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Blake-

    Thanks for the attached article.

    “The Yankees have become adept at churning through secondary markets to augment their well-paid star base. Brian Cashman preaches improving even by one or two percent if the finances work, and the Yankees baseball ops department has gotten better and better at identifying the types that can fit and succeed here.

    The Yankees have made the majors’ second-most waiver claims since the close of last year’s regular season. They will make a small trade because they see something in Chris Stewart’s defense. They will sign an independent league player like Nuno. They will not impatiently give up on an Adam Warren based on one poor start last year.”

  14. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Especially if we make the assumption that Robertson is not available either.

  15. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    The thing I find heartening is that they are putting together quality at bats up and down the lineup. The talent level is probably worse but the approach is exponentially better.

    Hey, Grandy took a walk and didn’t flail. I was totally gruntled.

  16. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    “What will be interesting is when they have more than two or three consecutive one or two run games and are in a position where Mo is not available to close – who will be their go-to guy?”

    if Drob isn’t available either then I’m not sure…..I guess Claibourn or Kelley…..both guys are gettin it done right now.

  17. ron May 15th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Mo is going to be used a ton this year.
    This is his last year,and girardi will not hold back,as long as it’s not all out abuse.
    Mo will have like 60 saves this year.

  18. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    “The thing I find heartening is that they are putting together quality at bats up and down the lineup. The talent level is probably worse but the approach is exponentially better.”

    I agree…..it doesn’t show up in the numbers but I like the approach. Yesterday with a guy on 2B and no outs and Romine up…..Joe let him hit (which I loved) and didn’t make him bunt but clearly Romine was thinking right side of the field to get the runner over…..he hit the ground ball and did his job….which is way better than a bunt because there is a chance there that the ball goes through and knocks the run in. I liked that…..

  19. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    blake -

    Have they closed in the past?

    I have flashbacks to Phil Coke being totally out of his element (even though he had earned a save).

  20. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    I had to look to see where Shawn Kelley came from. I didn’t realize he is a former Mariner.

    ——————-
    Modest Kate

    A breath of fresh air. A nice change of pace after all the trumpeting challenges.

  21. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    doreen,great link to wedge on montero :

    “Jesus has shown himself to throw the ball well,” he said. “He’s thrown out Mike Trout (in 2012); he’s thrown out other great runners. He’s had great times to second base. Sometimes he gets in trouble behind home plate because he gets a little too low and gets on his knees and that’s tough for him. He has terrific arm strength.

    http://blog.thenewstribune.com.....s-montero/

    this is the best article i’ve read on what’s going on with what the mariners and wedge in particular think about montero.

    if anyone reads the whole article, it’s obvious that when i said montero could catch , he can. the caveat is that he pays his dues. that’s a given. catching is a craft. the time needs to be put in. if montero pays his dues , he will be a catcher. if he doesn’t and gets lazy or doesn’t like doing it he won’t.

    this whole thing of taking a short term view on montero’s is silly.
    this is what wedge says:

    “I think all catchers need to be defense first,” Wedge said, noting Martinez, his former slugging catcher in Cleveland. “The only reason Victor caught as long has he did, is that he focused on the other side on the defense. Jesus’ carrying tool is going to be offense. But you still have to have that commitment behind the plate. I do appreciate he’s really been committed.”

    so as i said, if he stays committed to paying his dues, montero will be a catcher for a long time.

  22. Yankee Trader May 15th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Didn’t get to see very much of the game last night.

    Did the Mariners have the shift on for Granderson, when he hit into a DP?

  23. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Doreen,

    I don’t think so but we’re only talking about a game here and there…..now if Robertson and Mo were both hurt then it’d be a a bigger issue.

  24. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Maybe they just keep Nelson and add righty, Neal to replace Francisco?
    ___

    They said Adams would be activated today. He has a lot of supporters so hopefully they dont reneg.

  25. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    I think Montero might have to get out of Seattle and get a fresh start somewhere else……it just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen there and now he’s not really playing every day so it’s gonna make it even tougher to find his stroke.

  26. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    “How many times are you going to post this?”

    jacksquat:

    as many times as i feel like it.

    you don’t like it, don’t read it.

  27. 4TrainNorth May 15th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Jesus would probably be better without those stupid lines shaved in the side of his head. Gotta earn your stripes. Also: it’s not the 90s, bro.

  28. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    ron,

    I don’t know about that.

    This is an unusual year, in that there are been so many close games (on the winning side) and save situations this early. Usually there are a few blowouts thrown in where Mo doesn’t get so many opportunities to save.

    I think they’re going to be careful – he’s an old man, ya know!

    But that’s one of the reasons I’m curious to know who their “second” is – because it looks like it’s going to be a year where there are more close games, and more close games in a row.

  29. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    he hit the ground ball and did his job….which is way better than a bunt because there is a chance there that the ball goes through and knocks the run in. I liked that…..
    ———
    Yep.

    Professional baseball.

  30. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    “What will be interesting is when they have more than two or three consecutive one or two run games and are in a position where Mo is not available to close – who will be their go-to guy?”

    if Drob isn’t available either then I’m not sure…..I guess Claibourn or Kelley…..both guys are gettin it done right now.

    ————

    Based on earlier this yr, it will be Joba.

  31. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    blake -

    I guess I’m also looking for a clue as far as next year goes…

  32. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Country Club -

    How could I forget Joba? ;)

  33. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    “I think Montero might have to get out of Seattle and get a fresh start somewhere else”

    blake-

    is seattle a good fit for any young hitter? even zunino. will he hit as well in seattle as he does in the easy PCL park?

    i agree another place will probably be better. he very well could be moved. but he’s getting a lot of experience at a really young age. he’s paying his dues. he is making progress. it;s not a wasted time for him in seattle, though it may be for seattle if they sell low on him.

    ironically, it would put pressure on the seattle gm if pineda comes back and does well. then how does he trade him unless he gets something significant back ?

  34. fantasygame101 May 15th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    poor adams. hafner is unavailable which means one of the of is the dh. So they needs an extra of for now. The great ben Francisco is safe again.

  35. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Yes, as I have said, Montero will become a very good hitter for another team, and given how his swing is tailor-made for the short porch in YS, it should be with the NYY. That would be NINJA!!!!

  36. Yankee Trader May 15th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Doreen-

    If the arms in the bullpen leave because retirement or FA after this season, the BP
    would lose:

    Rivera
    Joba
    Logan

    Robertson would be in his 3rd arb year, Kelley in his 2nd, Pineda in his 1st.

    Another Cashaman remake:

    From Cots:

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

  37. Jesus Bustero May 15th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Tar the number of posters who think the Yankees are infallible is minuscule.

    ____________

    Yeah Tar, name one poster who thinks the Yankees can do know wrong. If by some chance you happen to come up with one, I will find 5 posters who think they do everything wrong.

    That being said, I dumped on Cashman for having a crappy personality (he does seem to have one) and accused him of being difficult to work with for other GMs… and he’s too complacent at times and not aggressive (I’m more of a Kenny Williams type) with trades but take a look at the work he and the front office have accomplished this year. They’ve hit on almost every acquisition/addition yet some people can’t seem to stop talking about Ben Francisco. If there was ever a case for a poster to view the Yankees as infallible – 2013 is it. And you still can’t turn up one though.

    Wells
    Youkilis
    Hafner
    Overbay
    Kelley
    Nuno
    Warren
    Claiborne
    Cervelli

  38. ron May 15th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Doreen.
    That is my point.There will be many more close games,and mo is retiring,so he will be used a lot more,but at the same time he has to be protected so he isn’t injured,but he was rested all last year,and it is his last year.
    Combine that with more closer games,and I think he pitches a lot more than in recent years.
    He has already pitched 17.1 innings,and is on an insane pace.
    He has pitched more than Soriano,kimbrell,chapman,grilli,and many more.
    I just don’t see the protection that was in place in years past.

    jmo

  39. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    poor adams. hafner is unavailable which means one of the of is the dh. So they needs an extra of for now. The great ben Francisco is safe again.
    ____

    Not necessarily.

  40. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    I actually went over and watched Montero a couple of times. The thing that struck me is that he didn’t move when he set up. He used his long arms to catch balls. I’d never heard the term windshield wiper but it is apt.

    The other was that he had gone away from his biggest strength opposite field power. He was set up to pull the ball. Now that’s on bad coaching.

    The caveat is that I know very little about catching.

    Slow fat guys that could hit, became catchers. The best players became SS’s. The fastest guy that could hit became the CF. Life was simpler then.

  41. jacksquat May 15th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 9:15 am
    “How many times are you going to post this?”

    jacksquat:

    as many times as i feel like it.

    you don’t like it, don’t read it.

    Sure, technically, you can keep rambling on about Montero when he still has yet to do anything. He may improve in the future, but until then I don’t see any point in the constant Montero defense. And really, your continued posts about Montero and wanting the Yankees to lose, etc. are trollish.

  42. fantasygame101 May 15th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    still no time table for youk? is he going to follow arod in 60 day dl soon too?

  43. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    poor adams. hafner is unavailable which means one of the of is the dh. So they needs an extra of for now.

    ——–

    Based on last week’s reports, Adams is coming up to play 3rd (and first vs a lefty). Not to be a DH.

  44. Yankee Trader May 15th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Have to go.

    Enjoyd the morning with all of you.

    Iwakuma might be a handful tonight. He has the lowest ERA in the AL among starters since the AS break last year.- was 2.22.

    1.35 ERA last 3 starts with a 2-0 record and 22 strikeouts in 20 innings.

    Have a great day.

    Until later.

  45. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    I didnt hear it myself, but supposedly Cash was on the radio yesterday and said he expects Youk back next week. He specifically mentioned the two teams that they play next week.

    And he supposedly said the first week of June for Teix.

  46. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    ron, I thought you were saying by choice rather than by necessity. My mistake. :)

  47. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    @BryanHoch: Teixeira said yesterday his rehab is going “great” and he expects to be playing in MLB games before June 1st.

    So there you go….

  48. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    “is seattle a good fit for any young hitter? even zunino. will he hit as well in seattle as he does in the easy PCL park?”

    nope…..I think that park has killed too many hitters to say it’s a coincidence at this point. I’m not making excuses for Montero in saying that…..Just saying it think it’s a factor.

  49. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    @BryanHoch: Teixeira said yesterday his rehab is going “great” and he expects to be playing in MLB games before June 1st.
    ___

    We will see.

    He was put on the 60 day so I don’t see that as a likely option.
    Plus the Yankees know how slow he starts, so they will keep him in the rehab games as long as they can (unless Overbay completely falls off).

  50. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    For me Tex is a ?? until he plays rehab games, but I don’t think I’ll ever feel 100% that there won’t be some setback this season.

  51. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    But I’m glad that Tex himself is optimistic.

    ;)

  52. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    “Warren finding a niche in the bullpen”

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....pen-86803/

  53. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    “The other was that he had gone away from his biggest strength opposite field power. He was set up to pull the ball. Now that’s on bad coaching.”

    I’ve only seen him a few times this year but he looks farther off the plate to me…..also I think for a young hitter if you come up to Seattle and drive a few balls to right field that end up fly outs that you thought you hit on the nose….then in the back on your mind you start thinking about not hitting the ball that way and it changes your approach maybe…..I don’t know but maybe Montero has gotten into some bad habits because one of his strengths doesn’t play in that park well……

  54. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    “The thing that struck me is that he didn’t move when he set up. He used his long arms to catch balls. I’d never heard the term windshield wiper but it is apt.”

    bo knows-

    one catcher who gave me catching tips me was paul casanova. paul was really tall. he was an old senator player and braves catcher. he talked a lot about how to use your body in combination with your arms.

    what you describe with montero is right on. it is what he does. he needs to use his body, but he has really fast hands and a big wingspan so using these more than usual is probably the way to go.

    graig nettles had a slow loer body and a fast upper body. montero is the same. different position, but same idea. nettles got great defensively by hard work. montero can get at least average to good if he works hard for his career the way nettles did.

    casanova caught neikro at atlanta and a no hitter i think. he spent a lot of time telling me how to catch a knuckleballer we had. the link between using your body and your arms really comes in there.

    using your body well allows you to use your arms and hands well.

  55. blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I think Tex will be back whenever he’s eligible…..the issue is if he will stay healthy afterwards or will he just hurt his wrist again.

  56. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    I think Tex will be back whenever he’s eligible…..the issue is if he will stay healthy afterwards or will he just hurt his wrist again.
    ____

    And we will lose Overbay in the process.

  57. MG May 15th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:44 am
    I think Tex will be back whenever he’s eligible…..the issue is if he will stay healthy afterwards or will he just hurt his wrist again.
    —————–
    With the way Overbay has played and with Youk coming back so they have options against lefties I think the Yankees will be very careful with Teix.

    Their pitching is strong enough so that they could, if they wanted, carry one less pitcher and keep an extra position player around-they can always shuttle guys back and forth from Scranton to fill in on days where the bullpen is a little short.

    A conservative approach would be to add Teix, keep Overbay around, and just carry the one less pitcher for a month or so. Warren and Nuno hadn’t pitched in awhile before Monday so there really isn’t a need for that 12th pitcher on a regular basis.

    They also have 3 consecutive Mondays off in June, it isn’t like they are going to play 30 games in 30 days when Teix gets back…

  58. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    “.I don’t know but maybe Montero has gotten into some bad habits because one of his strengths doesn’t play in that park well……”

    blake -

    no doubt.
    you play golf. it’s like when a hole doesn’t set up to your eye well, you tend to hit bad shots because you set up wrong and make adjustments from your normal approach.

    safeco is definitely a tough place for young hitters. but it’s the major leagues. the hitter has to figure out a way for the situation he’s in.

  59. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    I agree about 11 pitchers and 14 players, but I doubt Joe will agree. They always carry at least 12 even if some of they are going a week or two without playing. I think with Warren and Claiborne, Kelley and Logan able to do multiple innings, they dont need more than 11.

    My guess is they bring up Adams today and send Marshall back, because they will say they need Francisco for some stupid reason.

  60. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Scranton plays at 10:30 this morning. So I guess we’ll know shortly if Adams is officially coming up for tonight.

  61. fantasygame101 May 15th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    if adams is to replace the great ben Francisco and they use one of their of as a dh then nix is the only other of but nix is just an emergency of. And I believe they would like to retain nelson for the time being. So in effect, hafner and nelson resemblance of life has an impact on adams. Plus if youk is near ready, they would not waste another spot on the 40 man roster.

  62. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Josh Norris ?@jnorris427 2m David Adams has been officially called up.

  63. ron May 15th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Bingo on nettles.
    Slow as molasses on his feet,but lighning quick with his upper body.
    Nice analogy.

    The thing I heard about Montero is,he is very heavy,and clumsy with his lower body,and because of this,and him being so big,it takes a lot of time,and effort to get up into a throwing position,but he has great arm strength.

  64. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    JetSportsManagement ?@JetSportsMgmt 1m Congrats to David Adams – a birthday and a call up to wear the pinstripes tonight. So proud of you buddy. #longroad #hardworkpaysoff

  65. fantasygame101 May 15th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Who is being release for adams and will girardi plays him?

  66. 86w183 May 15th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Just like the Green Monster or the short porch at Yankee Stadium can affect hitters so, too can huge parks. But it’s going to be hard for Seattle to build a HR hitting lineup in that park.

    They would be well advised to focus on speed.

    I know the Yanks get paid for Teixeira’s salary cuz he got hurt in the WBC…. but do they also get a credit on their luxury tax? If he missed half the season that’s $ 11.25 M in salary… and should be another $ 4.5 M in tax savings.

  67. bruceb May 15th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Isn’t Kevin Youkilis due to come off the 15-day DL any day now? Has anyone got an update on how his back is? It all seems to have gone very quiet.

  68. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    A few years ago I read a story about if a player spends even 1 day on a 25 man roster (excluding Sept, I believe) that they get their health and dental covered by the union for life.

    Can anyone confirm that I remember that correctly? If so, good for the guys like Nuno, Adams & Joseph.

  69. Tackelberry May 15th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    blake May 15th, 2013 at 8:50 am
    Shawn Kelley got good all the sudden.

    ___________________

    He was always good. Just got off to a slow start

  70. Tackelberry May 15th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Welcome to the show, David Adams.

  71. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Norris just tweeted that Adams was just called up.

    Will he actually play tonight? I don’t know, but I’ll be at tonight’s game and hope to see him, and Montero.

    If neither play, at least I’ll see Hughes.

    It’s been obvious for a long time that Montero has been tweaked to pull more. They also have a new hitting instructor that is trying make him walk more.

    They’re shooting themselves in the foot by not having him DH when he’s not catching. I don’t know how they expect any kind of rhythm to develop. It’s like what the Yankees do to derail their young players; let them fust on the bench.

    C pitched very well last night even though they were trailing. Got out of some jams to keep the game close, Felix’s early exit helped, and then they went after the bullpen.

    Kuroda’s been pitching like the ace of the staff, but C always keeps you in the game. Can’t wait to see Hughes tonight!

  72. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Isn’t Kevin Youkilis due to come off the 15-day DL any day now? Has anyone got an update on how his back is? It all seems to have gone very quiet.

    ————

    Cash supposedly said next week.

  73. 86w183 May 15th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    I’d send Gonzalez down. A backup SS who can’t hit isn’t that valuable/necessary. Nelson could play SS in a pinch for a day or two.

    As I pointed out a few days ago Nelson came up as a SS and while he did commit a ton of errors, his fielding percentage of .934 wasn’t disastrous.

  74. fantasygame101 May 15th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    I hope tex can still fake playing the of. It gives them flexibility if overbay continues his surprising ways.

  75. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    The update on Youkilis’ back is that it was a chronic issue before he was a Yankee and the stunner is that it remains so. But no one could have possibly predicted that…

  76. 86w183 May 15th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Youkilis and Nova are already eligible to come off the DL… Joba in three days…. Nunez three days after that.

  77. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    if he doesn’t and gets lazy or doesn’t like doing it he won’t.
    ============================
    Maybe the Yanks saw this hence the trade.
    Of course its Montero, who else would we be talking about.

  78. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Montero as DH?
    Who’s your BUC?
    He’s not hitting enough anyway.

  79. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    “you play golf. it’s like when a hole doesn’t set up to your eye well, you tend to hit bad shots because you set up wrong and make adjustments from your normal approach.”

    exactly like that…..everyone that plays golf has a hole on a course that it just seems like a magnet makes the ball go to a certain place…..and it’s all because in your mind you are changing what you are doing with your swing because you’re thinking about something or worrying about something with that shot.

  80. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    it’d be awesome if Adams took the reigns and ran with them…..I don’t know if he’ll be given a chance to do what Middlebrooks for example did in Boston or if even he’s capable of such but it’d be cool if he did……I think he can hit….just hope he shows it

  81. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Joba pitched a clean first inning for SWB last night, 9 of 12 pitches where strikes.

  82. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 31m
    I was wrong about the Yankees. Here is my column explaining why: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....old-051413 … @MLBONFOX @FOXSports

    you’re wrong about a lot of things.

  83. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    mick-

    montero is not lazy. read it and weep . another of your biased uninformed theories
    bites the dust :)

    “I think all catchers need to be defense first,” Wedge said, noting Martinez, his former slugging catcher in Cleveland. “The only reason Victor caught as long has he did, is that he focused on the other side on the defense. Jesus’ carrying tool is going to be offense. But you still have to have that commitment behind the plate. I do appreciate he’s really been committed.”

    http://blog.thenewstribune.com.....s-montero/

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    blake,

    Adams can hit alright, but how much leash will he get is the question. They’re bringing these guys up as emergency fill-ins, and it’s sink or swim.

  85. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    why would they get rid of nelson?
    joe has a 3b competition, just as he is wont to do.
    one of them will win it till youk comes back and can play there or 1b against leftys.
    nix will be the utilityman again and can play the 5th OF if needed.
    time for ben franc to go.

  86. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    “A few days ago, I mentioned to Nick Swisher that I had picked his former Yankees teammates to finish last in the American League East.

    He smiled and shook his head.

    “Bro,” he said, “you can’t bet against those guys. You just can’t.””

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s…..old-051413 … @MLBONFOX @FOXSports

  87. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    montero is not lazy. read it and weep . another of your biased uninformed theories
    bites the dust
    ================
    and your proof is where?

    from same article:

    “With hot shot top prospect Mike Zunino at Triple A Tacoma, and underrated catching prospect John Hicks at Double A Jackson, there is some thought that Montero’s days as a catcher are limited.”

  88. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    JAP,

    yea I know….he’ll need to hit soon most likely or they’ll move on. Hopefully he will

  89. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “.everyone that plays golf has a hole on a course that it just seems like a magnet makes the ball go to a certain place…..and it’s all because in your mind you are changing what you are doing with your swing because you’re thinking about something or worrying about something with that shot.”

    blake-

    there was a hole that drove me crazy on a course i played a lot on in sarasota . it was a long par 4, about 440 yards, and it was OB all the down the right. trees all the way down the left. water around the green left so you didn’t want to just lay up your tee shot and have a long iron in there. what you wanted was a 300 yard drive and a nice little pitching wedge in there.

    i can’t tell you how many times i’d come to that hole with a really good score and do all down kinds of things trying to get the ball deep down in the fairway. being the 17th hole a double or worse would wreck a whole day’s effort. over time, i finally just set up and aimed right out over the houses OB and hit a big draw and brought it back . it took a while not to fear it, but attacking it was better than trying to avoid it.

    hitting at trouble and moving the ball away from it almost always works better.

  90. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Bryan Hoch @BryanHoch

    Mark Teixeira said yesterday his rehab is going “great” and he expects to be playing in big league games before June 1st.
    ===============================
    Seriously.
    The HR culture of Grandy and Tex back together again?
    Better keep Overbay around…

  91. ron May 15th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Segura for the brewers is having an insane year.23 years old,ops’ing at 1.000,7 hr.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/9247

  92. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    randy,
    I have way too many holes like that one….I wish I could just pick out one ;)

  93. ron May 15th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    hitting .359/.403 obp/slg almost .600

  94. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    “Pitching was, is, and forever will be the most essential ingredient. The Yankees are in playoff position at the season’s one-quarter mark largely because their 3.46 team ERA is the best in the AL East. CC Sabathia, Hiroki Kuroda and Pettitte have been remarkably consistent. Rivera is 16 for 16 in save opportunities with a 1.56 ERA, even as retirement looms at the end of the season.”

    Pitching has nothing to do with “mystique.” The Yankees have, at the very least, three No. 2s and at the uttermost, 2 No. 1s.

  95. blake May 15th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    “Segura for the brewers is having an insane year.23 years old,ops’ing at 1.000,7 hr.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/9247

    the danger of trading prospects for rental pitchers.

  96. DONNYBROOK May 15th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Just How does a guy that does Not play defense, come up with a sore shoulder??? My guess is this happened in the weight room, or like Uke’s back, is chronic and dates back. Lotta Used tires on the Yankee 25 Man, and with some of them, the tread is Already gone.

  97. ron May 15th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Randy,what you always say about Montero is what all good ml players,or golfers,etc… have to overcome to be great,or even good,but baseball is filled with average players that just don’t get any better.
    Montero has age in his favor,but there will come a point in time,if he does not get a lot better that hope is gone.
    We are far from that time,but he will be 24 years old in nov,and has a catcher in aaa that is about to sideline a lot of Montero’s playing time.
    Only time will tell If Montero,or any other becomes good,great,etc…,but one thing is for sure,it’s impossible to predict.
    Faith alone does not make a great baseball player.

  98. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    yea I know….he’ll need to hit soon most likely or they’ll move on. Hopefully he will
    ///

    Yep, hope he hits straight out of the chute. He’s been hot for Scranton. But a reasonable trial would be a much better way to learn what they potentially have in him.

  99. ron May 15th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Blake

    How again did they get him?
    I just heard but forgot.

  100. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    When Pronk hits the DL, Overbay will be here to replace him if Tex ever gets back.
    Can’t wait on Tex to hit his stride either as this team has changed without his all or nothing approach.

  101. DONNYBROOK May 15th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    - ron -
    Agree on Segura. In Fantasy Baseball, the guy is quite a find at a position (SS) that is Very sparse when it comes to offensive production.

  102. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    When the reports about Adams broke last week, they said that the Yanks are bringing him up to play and not just be insurance. Now that may change when Youk is back, but I think he’s going to get a chance this week.

  103. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Let’s hope Adams can pick it at 3rd.

  104. ron May 15th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    DONNYBROOK May 15th, 2013 at 10:44 am
    - ron -
    Agree on Segura. In Fantasy Baseball, the guy is quite a find at a position (SS) that is Very sparse when it comes to offensive production.

    I have him,and he is killing it for me.Rosario at the c position also for me.
    I took a chance in fantasy on a lot of prospects,and it paid off.Cobb,shelby miller also.

  105. ron May 15th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    I love my fb infield.

    Rosario
    howard
    cano
    segura
    longoria
    hanley on the dl.

  106. fantasygame101 May 15th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    hope adams hit and not follow youk to the dl who followed arod. Adams has history of injuries too,

  107. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    “and your proof is where?”

    mick -

    from wedge himself . do you have trouble reading? of are you just a a natural dumb ass who likes to be argue. wedge is talking about as plain as plain can be. if you don’t see that he says montero is working hard you’re just being the jerk you used to be with betsy.

    i’m done ignoring you. i’m going after you.
    when time permits. i am doubling my business this year. so battling when time permits :)

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    They did have him rotating between 3rd, 2nd and even 1B – and he can ably enough play those positions.

    I hope that’s true, but fool me once…when it comes to getting youth in the lineup….

    I just saw that Romine throw. Threw it to the wrong side of 2B. Sorry I won’t get to see him tonight.

  109. Russell Munson May 15th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    “Just How does a guy that does Not play defense, come up with a sore shoulder??? ”

    ============================================================

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....s8xRF4hEGP

    “The Yankees’ concerns were allayed when the test showed only tendinitis, meaning Hafner could be back in the lineup as soon as tonight after getting a cortisone shot. Hafner pointed to getting hit by a pitch in the area on April 29 as the original cause of the injury and was pleased to learn it wasn’t more serious.”

    ============================================================

    I guess getting hit by a pitch would be one way.

  110. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    River Ave. Blues ?@RiverAveBlues 10m 9 MLB teams currently have the same number of or fewer wins as Mariano has saves. He’s still retiring after this season though.

  111. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Good one, folks :D

  112. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    “Montero has age in his favor,but there will come a point in time,if he does not get a lot better that hope is gone.”

    ron-

    no doubt it’s up to him. intelligence also plays into it because he has to figure out ways to adjust to changing conditions. park factor, the way he ‘s pitched, etc.

    i’m betting on him long range the way i would on a stock.

  113. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Let’s hope Adams can pick it at 3rd.

    ———–

    It’s my understanding that he’s avg in the field (and that he hasn’t taken as well to 1st as Joseph has). But he has a legit gap to gap bat (not a lot of HR pop) and he’s been hot the past couple of weeks.

  114. DONNYBROOK May 15th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    The vets returning, (Youk, Tex, etc) have a high bar to reach, considering what the No Names have achieved. Same goes for Adams. There is currently a winning expectation, that anyone New to the lineup is going to have help achieve.

  115. DONNYBROOK May 15th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    - Russell -
    Thanks for the Hafner info.

  116. mick May 15th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    i’m done ignoring you. i’m going after you.
    ===================
    Oh! Were you ignoring me? Doing a poor job of it. Put down your National Enquirer and realize that the Mgr will say anything to protect his players.
    Yanks didn’t come out and say it either, and neither did I, but it is a possibility ,among other things, why Montero has not progressed with “generational” speed as prognosticated by “sophisticated” pundits of this blog.

  117. mick May 15th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    no doubt it’s up to him. intelligence also plays into it because he has to figure out ways to adjust to changing conditions. park factor, the way he ‘s pitched, etc.
    =========================================
    so are you now saying he is not intelligent?
    wonders never cease…

  118. ron May 15th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Randy

    Nothing wrong with that.How can anyone root for a kid to fail,esp one of our own?
    All I am saying is once he hits 26 years old,or so,and still struggling,it’s not going to look good.
    Still has a few seasons left,but he is not that 21 year old kid anymore,but at the same time,is still quite young.

    We will see.

  119. blake May 15th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “How again did they get him?
    I just heard but forgot.”

    Greinke trade I believe

  120. blake May 15th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    re Fantasy baseball…..I’m in a keeper league and took Machado way earlier than most would have simply because I wanted him for the future as a SS….it’s paying off dividends early

  121. mick May 15th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    What does bother me about this Montero situation (unlike the Bonnie situation from Pulp Fiction)
    is that if they did happen to notice that he couldn’t catch, as the Mariners are first seeing now,
    why didn’t they move him to 1st or just let him DH full-time?

    Could be they saw something in his approach at the plate they didn’t like either.

  122. ron May 15th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    I dropped machado,but i’m not hurting because of it.
    I have segura,hanley,longoria.

  123. blake May 15th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    “Could be they saw something in his approach at the plate they didn’t like either.”

    the thing the Yankees would have known better than anyone about Montero was his mental abilities and his work ethic…..because they were simply around him more than anyone else and those are the things that we as fans and even scouts don’t see day to day.

    We can look at his swing and love it and think he’s gonna be a monster but at the big league level those other things are often what separates players. Miguel Cabrera isn’t Miguel Cabrera only because he’s got a great swing and is super strong…..it’s also because he’s super smart as a hitter and makes adjustments….

  124. champ809 May 15th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    With respect to the Montero discussion….

    Clearly he can catch but is also a work in progress. The problem seems to me that Seattle has no clear plan in place as to where they are realistically as an organization at this stage. As theya re not good enough to win or contend they should realize that they are still in a development phase and as such should be committed to getting as much playing time to the Monteros, Smoaks’ and Ackleys as possible to see if they are in fact pieces for the future.

    In the case of Jesus specifically he should be a lineup regular and catching at least 3 days a week. His splits are dramatic when he catches vs. Dh’ing so its clear what he prefers but he should get at least 2 games a week at the DH and 3 behind the plate. It should be an organizational mandate that he get 500-550 abs this season barring injury.

    Maybe Wedge feels he has no security in his job and just wants to win games but it’s not in the long term best interests of the organization that they don’t take this season to really evaluate what they have going forward.

  125. blake May 15th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    “I dropped machado,but i’m not hurting because of it”

    The really I liked Machado is because like I said its a keeper league and I think he’s gonna play SS again at some point…..plus IMO he’s going to be better than Longoria soon if he isn’t already

  126. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    “Adams has produced a .316/.407/.490 batting line, and hit three home runs in 27 games with the RailRiders this season.

    Though no corresponding move has been announced, multiple sources have told me they expect infielder Chris Nelson to be designated for assignment.”

    http://bronxpinstripes.com/new.....-promoted/

  127. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    My personal take is that the way the Yankees are set up, with ARod and Jeter, especially, probably needing the DH spot, they didn’t see a real spot for Montero if they had determined he wasn’t going to be a FT catcher.

    I’m not saying this was the correct way to look at it, but what likely entered into the thought process in deciding to trade him when they did.

    Others have said Montero is not particularly athletic and not really suited for any position other than catcher or DH.

    ****
    On a different note – Congrats to Dave Adams! I’m glad the report of his promotion wasn’t just a tease, and I hope that he makes his presence known and makes it difficult for the Yankees to not play him. Great Birthday present for him.

    ***

    On another different note, it’s interesting that today seems to be back-pedal day with all of these glowing articles on the Yankees being published.

  128. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    On another different note, it’s interesting that today seems to be back-pedal day with all of these glowing articles on the Yankees being published.

    ——

    haha, I liked it better when the MSM were picking the Yanks to miss the playoffs.

  129. mick May 15th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    the thing the Yankees would have known better than anyone about Montero was his mental abilities and his work ethic…..
    ===================
    Exactly. This was my point. We knew him best and got out from under him before he was exposed.
    The September he had was enough to get him dealt.
    Some would like to believe otherwise and go by what they “see” but other more informed people in the business saw otherwise.
    Call it a business decision…nothing personal.

  130. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    CountryClub,

    Me too!!

    And I expect if the Yankees hit a tough spot, they’ll back-back-pedal!!!

  131. Bronx Jeers May 15th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    I’m guessing the wind knocked it down but Cano was watching the ball last night like it was going 20 rows back. Lol

  132. pat May 15th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    “The vets returning, (Youk, Tex, etc) have a high bar to reach…”

    Wells .300 .353 .521 .874

    Hafner .260 .383 .510 .893

    Overbay .256 .293 .488 .781

    Nix .245 .322 .304 .626

    Nunez .200 .290 .275 .565

    Nelson .222 .243 .278 .521

  133. Bronx Jeers May 15th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    I think the guys coming back have to change their approach in order to fit on the the they’re joining!

  134. GregD May 15th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Have they said who goes down for Adams?

  135. blake May 15th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    if they choose to DFA Nelson I hope Cashman can work some of his magic and keep him in the organization.

  136. blake May 15th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    If they are bringing Adams up then I hope its for a legit chance to play every day…..

  137. GregD May 15th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    I’m reading that its Chris Nelson – DFA’D

  138. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    apparently there’s a wild one going on in SWB this morning. 8-7 in I think the 3rd. LOL

  139. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    “so are you now saying he is not intelligent?”

    i don’t know jesus. i’m not sure what his IQ is but the smarter he is the more it will help him adjust.

    you are the one whose intelligence i question since your reading comprehension is so low that you ask so many inane questions.

  140. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    It was a nice surprise to see Romine start the game yesterday.
    I know he might have made a bad decision when he fielded the bunt and threw to 2nd base.
    Even David Cone backed up Romine’s decision because the band was still on the dirt, in front of the plate. I think Romine was just unaware of the runner’s speed at 1st. Call that growing pains.
    Nothing he did in the game yesterday changes my mind about the kid. He needs to play more and show how much he has to offer.

  141. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Stop posting tweets that Tex will be back shortly. Let me live in denial as long as I can.

    I really do like this group a lot and seeing Grandy get easily fooled (I know it was his 1st game back) brought back all the agita of what this offense used to be.

    It’s going to suck trading a solid 1b vs RHP for a below league average one soon.

  142. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    If they are bringing Adams up then I hope its for a legit chance to play every day…..

    ————-

    I think he’ll play most days (maybe even at 1st vs a lefty) until Youk comes back. Then I think he goes back down. The problem for Adams is that Youk may be coming back next week. But he should get a good 5 – 7 day run.

  143. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Josh Norris ?@jnorris427 2m David Adams has been officially called up.
    ___

    I am happy for Mr. Adams and hope he makes the most of it.
    Who was sent down/DFA?

  144. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    What’s the options situation with Adams? Can he be sent down w/o being exposed to waivers now?

    If not, he’s here to stay I imagine.

  145. blake May 15th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    If Adams come up and plays well I hope they keep letting him play and don’t send him back down for old and brittle Youk…..but that’s just me…..Youk can’t play 3B anymore….he’s not a good defender there and him playing there just leads to him getting hurt more often IMO. If Adams plays well then let Youk be the 1B vs LHP and mix in at DH and 3B some……he’s not an every day player anymore.

  146. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    I think he’ll play most days (maybe even at 1st vs a lefty) until Youk comes back. Then I think he goes back down. The problem for Adams is that Youk may be coming back next week. But he should get a good 5 – 7 day run.
    ___

    It would be between him and Nelson (unless Nelson was how they cleared the 40 man roster space).

  147. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    The Dallas paper reports the Yankees, Rangers and A’s are scouting a Japanese pitcher who has won his last ten starts. Sorry, can’t recall the name.

    Tanaka. I like that they are scouting him (but they scouted Darvish too..) and I hope they would get him because I enjoy Japanese players representing my team. However, Tanaka is not Yu Darvish. He has been very, very good in the NPB and I think he can translate that success to the majors, but he is NOT the #1 awesomest pitcher to come from Japan with the mechanics and size of a MLB power pitcher. He throws 90, he uses lots of offspeed stuff. He throws a fastball about 30-40% of the time and the rest is change ups, 2-seamers (Shuuto), and sliders. He is only 6’2/200. He has a japanese style hesitation delivery very similar to Matsuzaka. He does not have Darvish’s pure drop and drive MLB standard power delivery. I have a bad feeling he is going to be hyped as the next Darvish when he is not anywhere near the same caliber of player.

    Here is a highlight video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acu_tWYNNpA

  148. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    G. Love-
    That is the question. Difficult to predict any future moves without knowing
    which players have/do not have options remaining.

    Nice to see Adams return. He should get a week or so taste of the big leagues. He can certainly spell Overbay at 1st base when a lefty is starting.

    C. Nelson seems to be the clear choice to be DFA’d in order to make room for Adams, so we’ll see.

  149. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Jerkface,

    I had read somewhere that Asian baseball league pitchers are the new Moneyball now that PED’s are out of the game like high OBP were the trend. The fact that they have very well refined off speed pitches and control is making them huge assets against MLB hitters who can’t handle off speed stuff and are waiting for meatballs.

    The article I was reading (can’t remember where) suggested that we’re going to see a lot more players from Asia pitching here shortly.

    I would not be surprised to see the Yankees get on the bandwagon. Especially, with Kuroda being ace like with the movements on his pitches.

  150. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I’m excited to see Adams for what it’s worth. He’s another one of the one’s that the Yankees almost traded and for whatever reasons ended up staying. Sometimes, those players have a knack of becoming “thank God we didn’t deal him” types.

    I also like that he’s fought back from major injuries to get here. Hopefully, they let him play.

    If he turns out good, Seattle GM Jackie Z is going to look like a fool for passing on the Yankees Cliff Lee deal since he essentially traded Lee for nothing with the way Smoak turned out and he ended up giving up Pineda and Campos to get less than what was in the Lee offer.

  151. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Eh G Love,

    I’m not sure I buy that. Most NPB pitchers don’t have the fastball to get by major league hitters, and most don’t even have the breaking stuff. NPB pitchers are forced to throw every offspeed pitch by their managers/coaches. So a guy might have a nice curve, or slider, or change, but he is throwing a show me everything else. The reason for that is most NPB hitters lack the power to punish mistakes or their hitting approach (aping ichiro) means they are not swinging effectively to punish mistakes. They also swing at lots of stuff in the zone, so you get lots of pop ups and ground balls on bad offspeed stuff that would not fly in the majors.

    I could see the actual good NPB pitchers come over and have success, because they generally feature multiple good offspeed pitches, but there simply isn’t enough of them to really constitute a movement like OBP became.

    Guys like Tanaka and Kenta Maeda ( currently has a .6 ERA, ace of the Carp Kuroda’s old team) can come over and succeed like Kuroda and Iwakuma and Darvish have. But too many NPB pitchers just don’t have the basic FB that is necessary to be a major league pitcher.

  152. austinmac May 15th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    JF and YT,

    Thanks for the info on Tanaka and Moreno.

    Jf, we do remember you correctly strongly urging they sign Darvish. You were right.

  153. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Jack Z has made some TERRIBLE deals. Between the Cliff Lee mess and the deal a while back where he gave up half his team for Erik Bedard, including Adam Jones.

  154. CompassRosy May 15th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    ac1 ~

    No question Jack Z has made some bad moves but, he didn’t trade for Eric Bedard, Bill Bavasi did.

  155. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Basically, it would be like the new moneyball being: call up prospects from AAA. The NPB is an AAAA quality league with players who could be outstanding prospects and the rest is organizational filler.

  156. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Did anybody catch what Kay or Cone said last night when describing
    Montero’s style of catching? All of you probably did and might have discussed the comments last night.
    Was interesting to hear what the scouts continue to say when describing how
    Montero receives the ball-a windshield wiper is how it was described and the Seattle pitcher’s do not care for how he receives the ball.
    Which might explain he he has appeared in around 160 games for Seattle and only caught about 70 games.

  157. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Jerkface,

    I think part of the argument was that pitchers with solid off speed stuff don’t need the huge fastball anymore.

    If they can throw 91-92 with better than average off speed stuff that locates, they can win in this league now.

    It’ll be interesting to see if it becomes a trend.

  158. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    If they can throw 91-92 with better than average off speed stuff that locates, they can win in this league now.

    It’ll be interesting to see if it becomes a trend.

    But most NPB pitchers can’t do 91-92 with better than average off speed stuff, is the point. Certainly not enough to become a movement. I get the idea behind it, but I think its romanticizing the NPB off of guys like Matsuzaka and Darvish and Kuroda who all have multiple excellent offspeed pitches. Most guys don’t got that.

    Especially with the posting system it is going to be impossible. What you’re going to see is the same as it is now, a handful of guys changing leagues each year with a big headliner pitcher every few seasons.

  159. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    No question Jack Z has made some bad moves but, he didn’t trade for Eric Bedard, Bill Bavasi did.
    ___

    Oops.
    Ok then the Mariners have made some really bad trades….
    Not kinda bad, but VERY.

  160. blake May 15th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    the Yankees should have listened to Jerkface on Darvish

  161. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    But most NPB pitchers can’t do 91-92 with better than average off speed stuff, is the point. Certainly not enough to become a movement. I get the idea behind it, but I think its romanticizing the NPB off of guys like Matsuzaka and Darvish and Kuroda who all have multiple excellent offspeed pitches. Most guys don’t got that.
    ___

    I would argue DiceK is an example of the failure.
    He had one very good year.
    Not worth the $103M the Sox ponied up.

  162. RadioKev May 15th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Here is a highlight video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acu_tWYNNpA
    ————–

    That’s a nice highlight reel curve. Don’t care much for the other offerings.

    What is with that style of delivery anyway? It’s gotta cut down on your power, right?

  163. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Sir Alex -

    That WAS a very interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I actually read the whole thing!!!

  164. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    I would argue DiceK is an example of the failure.
    He had one very good year.
    Not worth the $103M the Sox ponied up.

    DiceK failed because he got injured, which can happen to anyone. He threw hard and struck guys out like crazy, had he not got a shoulder injury AND tjs I think he would have been an above average major league pitcher with the potential for some ace quality seasons simply because major league hitters couldnt hit him. He did not fail due to any kind of NPB adjustment junk.

  165. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    You have to give some credit to Cashman and the Yankees brass for deciding to keep
    Kelley over Aardsma.
    Kelley has impressed me. Did not expect him to be such a valued reliever.
    Joba might have 2 guys ahead of him now.
    Kelley and Claiborne.
    That might make it easier to trade Joba before the season is over.

  166. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    What is with that style of delivery anyway? It’s gotta cut down on your power, right?

    Asian pitchers like to use hesitation to disrupt the timing of the batters. Its also why NPB coaches want them to be able to throw every offspeed pitch possible regardless of quality, for the different looks it offers and how it can disrupt hitters. Like I said, it can work in the NPB because the hitters there are aggressive in the zone without the batting mechanics to back it up, so they pop out/ground out alot. The good hitters don’t see those pitches, they get the A+ offerings.

  167. RadioKev May 15th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    blake May 15th, 2013 at 8:50 am
    Shawn Kelley got good all the sudden.
    ———-

    Way back up at the top of the thread, but yeah, when you can strike out a bunch of guys, good things happen.

  168. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    At this point if they have to make room in the BP I’d recommend trading Joba. Kelley is under team control and looks like he can be a decent middle guy (but will be homer prone as a flyball righty in NYS), and Joba is a free agent to be. They have to keep everyone who gives them options for next year, but I suppose they’d just option Kelley or Claiborne and keep Joba.

  169. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Kelley’s had 5 good innings. That happens to relievers. Its the nature of the beast.

  170. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    I would trade anyone, depending on the return.

  171. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Dice K also ended up in a Boston during a tumultuous impatient time. There was so much nonsense going on about his routine vs. their routine that he was surrounded by noise. Plus, they built him up to be the greatest pitcher to ever come from Asia to the US and when he struggled the fans and media bailed on him quickly.

    Outside of the injuries, there were a lot of external factors that sunk him. I feel similarly about Igawa who signed the contract to come here and then it seemed the Yankees immediately regretted giving it to him which hovered over him for his entire run.

  172. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Joba might have 2 guys ahead of him now.

    ————–

    I’d be shocked if that was the case. Maybe for the first few games just to get his feet wet again. But my guess is he’s the first guy called upon when the need arises in the 7th.

  173. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    G Love,

    I agree. Matsuzaka is the victim of the Red Sox’s draconian shoulder program, as well as expectations and his own overuse early in his career. Sometimes pitchers die.

    Igawa never should have been posted for, not for the amount he got.

  174. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    Afternoon all… did ya’ll try to spot me this morning on Good Morning America?? I know I know, you were distracted by all the sessy the Backstreet Boys brought today. It’s okay, I understand. ;)

  175. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    They didn’t even know what pitches Igawa threw before they signed him… that’s the kinda stuff that makes you shake your damn head. I get that those making the decisions know more and are better informed than we are… but you hear stuff like that, and it’s basically indefensible.

  176. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Joba was already on this ice based on his comments during ST of this year and then
    the incident with Mo.
    I don’t care if the Yankees PR dept tweeted a photo of the 2 being friendly, Joba to me seems to need a new team, a new location because what he’s done in The Bronx has not met
    the expectations. The fool actually said he has 4 pitchers. Oh really? I would love to see him throw all 4 for strikes during one appearance.

  177. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    The fool actually said he has 4 pitchers. Oh really? I would love to see him throw all 4 for strikes during one appearance.

    This is a dumb comment. Most pitchers with multiple pitches rarely have all of them working at the same time.

  178. mick May 15th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    Shame-I was looking out but hard when don’t know what you look like.
    What do you look like?

  179. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    Igawa had average velo and threw up in the zone. Even a casual fan would know his stuff wouldn’t translate.

  180. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Joba at a minimum has 3 pitches, and he has thrown all of them for strikes (curve, slider, fb). He has a change up too but he doesnt throw it that much. It was an average-above average pitch for him in the minors though.

  181. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Joba is certainly trade bait now (not so much because of his issue with Rivera, but because of Kelley, Claiborne, Nuno, Warren, etc)….

  182. mick May 15th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Igawa had average velo and threw up in the zone.
    ========================
    He threw up alright and so did many fans.

  183. Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

    Great bat flip.

  184. MG May 15th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
    Afternoon all… did ya’ll try to spot me this morning on Good Morning America?? I know I know, you were distracted by all the sessy the Backstreet Boys brought today. It’s okay, I understand.
    —————
    shame, here is the video on youtube, you will have to point it out when you are on camera:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idlR1to0P1Q

  185. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    What incensed me about that Igawa move was it a complete overreaction to the Red Sox winning the bidding on Dice K. It was such a poorly thought out knee jerk move saying “They got a Japanese pitcher? We’ll get a Japanese pitcher! Ha!”

    To some extent, I’m glad the rivalry between teams has tempered a bit so that “anything you can do I can do better” stuff has been muted for now. It’s not going to last though. We’re just in a brief lull.

  186. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    G. Love

    That’s why I think the decision was made above Cashman.

    He has obvious flaws, but that’s not the type of mistake he is likely to make.

  187. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Jerkface May 15th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    The fool actually said he has 4 pitchers. Oh really? I would love to see him throw all 4 for strikes during one appearance.

    This is a dumb comment. Most pitchers with multiple pitches rarely have all of them working at the same time.
    ———————————————————————————————————
    After the Mo incident, Joba makes me sick. I’m thrilled there are pitchers like Kelley and Clairborne ready to take Joba’s spot on the team.
    Joba is delusional and believes his talents are greater than they actually are.
    I can spit on his slider. He rarely throws that pitch for a strike. So of course the hitters will take that pitch and sit FB.
    If Joba was smart enough to mix in that change up, he could get the hitters off his FB and get some more outs.
    Common sense really.
    Robertson doesn’t need a change right now because he stride is so far, that 92 mph fastball seems even faster.
    Mo doesn’t need a change up and we all know why.

  188. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Just watched the video Shame. They looked and sounded good! I’m sure you had an awesome time!

  189. MG May 15th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Igawa could have been the worst pitcher ever signed by the Yankees,

    I don’t know how any corner infielder could play there without a suit of armor and a helmet given the speed of the ball leaving the bat off one of his meatballs.

  190. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    If they could package Nova and Joba for a bat I consider if….they should target a young 3b or SS with upside….or a but low guy

  191. MG May 15th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    How about Chamberlain for David DeJesus? It would at least fill one person’s needs…

  192. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    The Yanks won’t trade Joba just to trade him. If he brings something worthwhile back (most likely in a package) then fine. But they’d rather use him this yr and lose him next yr than trade him for nothing.

  193. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    I wonder if Towers still likes Nova?

  194. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    The Yanks won’t trade Joba just to trade him. If he brings something worthwhile back (most likely in a package) then fine. But they’d rather use him this yr and lose him next yr than trade him for nothing.
    ___

    Of course. But he is certainly someone that teams with no bullpen depth would want and we could see what we get back.

  195. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Olt is really struggling right now and Texas hasn’t given him a chance so maybe he’s frustrated…..buy low with extra pitching

  196. mick May 15th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Some team might even view Joba as a starter.
    This would be what I was looking for as GM.

  197. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    There’s this big mess of bushy, curly hair in the very back on the left. That’d be me!! :D

    I tried to hide a lot behind the signs (not very hard). Being up at 4:45am is not kind to.. my face.

  198. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    JF

    Re bat flip

    Reminds me of Cano last night. One of these days I hope they smoke his butt at 2B. Hotdog -.

  199. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    CountryClub-
    Good point. That is one scenario.
    Usually when a player is going to be a free agent, the team will either re-sign him during
    the season or trade him during the season.
    Unless Joba has a miraculous turnaround on the mound, I think he will be traded around
    the deadline.
    He has worn out his welcome and that was before the incident with Mo. I think Joba lacks maturity and humility.
    Trade the guy and watch him start games, go about 6 innings at the most and have a 4.00 ERA or higher as well.

  200. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Kinda impressed MG found that video so quickly!! Nick Carter was gyrating very close to me.. it was a situation. I also pulled some Mission Impossible-like security breaches to get all of their autographs. They’re nice guys, they stayed and took pictures and signed stuff for everyone!

    The only Yankee autographs I’ve been able to manage are Joba’s and Luis Sojo’s lol.

  201. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Some bunch of dudes butchered a backstreet boys song on the today show this morning…..I wasn’t sure what it was for though

  202. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    The Mets could use Joba.

  203. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    MG May 15th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    How about Chamberlain for David DeJesus? It would at least fill one person’s needs…

    ——————-

    :lol:

  204. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    I can’t tell which one shame is

  205. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    The only Yankee autograph I have is Clete Boyer

  206. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Doreen – Do you like the Beach Boys? This might be some of their best stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2PHqFfyKg4

  207. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    blake – Lol, you really can’t see me at any point. I’m behind this girl holding up a blue sign, so if you do see me it’s from the neck down. Which some would argue is a vast improvement…

  208. mick May 15th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Who was that guy in the pork pie hat and fake beard, is he supposed to be attractive?

  209. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Bo-I hear what you say about Cano. He has a very bad habit of not hustling on hit balls that he thinks are certain HR’s. If he was hustling out of the box, he might have had a triple. Instead he watched the flight of the ball and had to settle for a double. Irritated me(again).

    As for the Japan bat flip, my first thought was-how many feet is it to LCF in that park? Talk about cavernous. WOW!!!

  210. pat May 15th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Beyond…….

    dylanohernandez
    In response to an inquiry from @LATimesTJSimers, Mark McGwire says he will not provide the #Dodgers will steroids: http://lat.ms/18JXClg

  211. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    “The only Yankee autograph I have is Clete Boyer”

    I have them of Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, and Bill Monbouquette.

  212. MG May 15th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    Kinda impressed MG found that video so quickly!!
    ————————-
    it wasn’t hard, Googled backstreet boys good morning america may 15, it was right there…

  213. RayVT May 15th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    The only Yankee autographs I have are Catfish Hunter & Ken Clay.

  214. Bo knows May 15th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Those dudes remind of people going to see Bobby Vinton in Vegas..

    “But, but he can’t sing, he couldn’t when he was a pup”

    “Yeah, but he puts on a hell of a performance”.

    Long Pause – Speechless

  215. MG May 15th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    “The only Yankee autograph I have is Clete Boyer”

    I have them of Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, and Bill Monbouquette.
    ———————
    I have Clemens and Andy on a golf scorecard from 2003, now if I could only find it…

  216. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Shame -

    Impressive! Love the harmonies in that song. Love that song.

  217. RayVT May 15th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    So Mike Kekich wasn’t home when you got Fritz?

  218. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    MG

    I am hoping the supposedly upcoming Ben Affleck movie on the Peterson/Kekich wife swap boosts the demand for his autograph. ;)

  219. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    RayVT

    He wasn’t at the Chicken Delight, but Peterson’s wife, who later become Mrs, Kekich, was in the car waiting for him.

  220. MG May 15th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    MG

    I am hoping the supposedly upcoming Ben Affleck movie on the Peterson/Kekich wife swap boosts the demand for his autograph.
    ———————————–
    you might have something if there was a risque photo of Mrs Kekich or Mrs Peterson included. :)

    I don’t remember which one but one of reorganized couples is still together.

  221. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    mick – That’s Aj. He’s… uh.. maybe the ugliest lol. It’s a real beard but he dies it like those fellas that play for the Giants. :roll:

    MG – Ah.. the power of Google. I used to think randy had a crazy LoHud archive with all our posts until Nick pointed out he just Google searches. :oops:

    Doreen – It’s always been one of my favorite songs. I loooooved that they did it at this Brian Wilson tribute thing.

  222. pat May 15th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    The only Yankee autograph I have is Mickey Mantle and the only reason I got it was he asked if I wanted it and I didn’t want to say no.

  223. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    kekich and peterson had to be a low light in yankee history.

  224. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    pat May 15th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    The only Yankee autograph I have is Mickey Mantle and the only reason I got it was he asked if I wanted it and I didn’t want to say no.

    ——————–
    You gotta tell us more about this one, pat!!!

    Where were you??

  225. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    kekich and peterson had to be a low light in yankee history.
    _

    And it was sort of repeated by Rick Manning and Dennis Eckersley when they were with the Indians?

  226. RadioKev May 15th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    I have Alfredo Aceves’ autograph…

  227. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    The Slimy Seventies!!

  228. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    “I have Alfredo Aceves’ autograph…”

    Did he have a psycho look in his eyes?

  229. mick May 15th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    What is the delay on the Adams callup and who is going down/released/traded?

  230. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    ” I used to think randy had a crazy LoHud archive with all our posts until Nick pointed out he just Google searches.”

    shame-

    nick in sf would be partially incorrect. i do use google advanced search for a specific time period, but the best way is for me to highlight some statement and then send link to mail and then add statement to link. i save as a draft.

    for example right now i have an open draft with the subject ” misguided views/ giddiness”.
    so far mick and ys guy are leading the way in statements that will come back to haunt them.
    surprisingly trisha is not there at all. ever since kuroda, she’s been much better :)

  231. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    “I have Alfredo Aceves’ autograph…”

    Did he have a psycho look in his eyes?

    ——————
    I thought he had the devil in his eyes…? Aceves has a lot going on in his eyes.

  232. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Mick
    The guys who make the decisions need to get their rest.
    Let them sleep in for a change and get the word out after lunch,
    HAHAHA

  233. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    randy – …..You’re Dick Cheney in real life, aren’t you..?

    I think you are lol. The same way I’m pretty sure Donnybrook is Donnie Wahlberg.

  234. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Shame

    Maybe, and if so I stand corrected. If he reads this blog, he is probably one of the last people I would want to be made at me. :D

  235. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Nobody here has a Derek Jeter autographed gift basket?

  236. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Did you guys know there’s a best uniform vote going on at ESPN? Did you know that the Yankees narrowly beat out the A’s in the last round and that in this round they are up against the Red Sox and it’s running 50/50????

    I had to vote!!!

  237. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Link:

    Braves, Cards, Giants and Pirates in same bracket? No fair. RT @UniWatch 3rd round of “Battle of the Uniforms” is up http://es.pn/12B44Gw

  238. Nick in SF May 15th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Are you sure I said that, Shame Spencer? I may have praised randy’s fine google skills — don’t doubt the tenacity of a man with serious grudges — but he has revealed non-google search methods in the past as well.

    randy, I enjoyed that email exchange you posted earlier today (though you forgot to redact your name — not that it’s much of a secret, but still…), but I’m not sure it had the effect you intended.

  239. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    someone bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia…

  240. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    So far I have resisted any All-Star voting this year.

  241. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Nick – I don’t remember exactly how it was said but you just mentioned that Google searches do wonders, so I assumed that’s how he pulled all the quotes. I don’t recall randy mentioning other methods in the past but I’m sure he has and I’ve missed it.

  242. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Doreen – I’ll vote, the pinstripes are classic.

  243. pat May 15th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Shame

    I was working a trade show and Mickey was hired to sign autographed pictures to attract buyers to our booth. I got a chance to talk to him during the down time throughout the afternoon. Before he left he asked if I wanted an autograph. I didn’t want to say no so I got a picture signed.

  244. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    I really think in terms of creative liberty, 70s film studio are far inclined to green light projects that aren’t sure to be a moneymaker in terms of subjects, plots and themes. a lot of interesting and quirky films were made in those late 60s-70s period.

  245. astrocityfan May 15th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Maybe a better name for this blog would Methods and Madness :) We seem to have equal parts of each.

    Shame,
    How did GMA go?

  246. Nick in SF May 15th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Ah, well google searches do do wonders — that voodoo that you do so well — but I wouldn’t want to short-change a man of many skills.

  247. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    A personal favor, The Gambler lead by Caan loosely base on Dostoyevsky’s novella by the same name.

  248. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Wow, great story pat. Chit chatting with the Mick must have been interesting..

  249. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    nick in sf-

    shhhhhhhhh.

    i figure no one read that far in to the post :)

    most of us regulars have each others addresses and names anyway.

  250. pat May 15th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    EricFisherSBJ
    Years after various permutations 1st discussed, Yankee Stadium finally gets outdoor hockey. NYR-NJD 1/26/14, NYR-NYI 1/29/14

  251. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    I have a Mantle ball and a Dimaggio ball that my Uncle got for me. I stopped asking for autographs of any kind when I hit puberty.

    The last autograph I asked for was in a cafe/restaurant in Laguardia Airport when I ran into Dusty Rhodes & Magnum TA who then pointed over to another table in the little restaurant where The Road Warriors were sitting (sadly not wearing spiked shoulderpads) and asked me if I wanted their autograph to which I said “no”.

  252. Nick in SF May 15th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Dostoyevsky knew when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. He especially knew when to walk away and when to run. He didn’t count his rubles when he sat at the table, either. #dumbingdowndostoyevsky

  253. blake May 15th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    my wife has a Mantle autographed ball…..her parents used to go to the same golf club as he did somewhere in Georgia and he actually had dinner with them one night she said…..she said he was very nice but hammered and all she remembers was how red his eyes were. She got a signed ball though……

  254. Nick in SF May 15th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    “most of us regulars have each others addresses and names anyway.”

    Yes, for better and for worse. But thanks again for that fruit basket, it was much appreciated.

  255. randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    “You’re Dick Cheney in real life, aren’t you..?”

    shame,

    if i were dick cheney in real life, i’d shoot myself.

    of course , i were him, i’d miss my head and shoot an innocent bystander :)

  256. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Doreen,

    I just voted too. Yanks up tp 51% now.

  257. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    astrocityfan – *squeals* *giggles* *white girl dances*…. ahem.. yeah it went okay, thanks for asking! ;)

    My grandfather has a ball he got signed by DiMaggio… it sits in this glass case in my house like some rare artifact in a museum.

  258. astrocityfan May 15th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    GLOVE,
    DUDE! dusty and maggie may! (as Dusty would say) Some of my best memories as a kid are from going to see Dusty in little venues around NC. Those were the days….

    I actually got to meet Ric Flair and Arn Anderson once.

  259. blake May 15th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    online polls are dumb…..that’s how Joey Votto ends winning the face of baseball…..

  260. blake May 15th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    I have Hank Parker’s autograph

  261. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    We cannot allow the Red Sox to win the best uniform contest!!!

    There are some tough choices there though. Most of the unis that are left are pretty good ones.

    But nothing beats the pinstripes!

  262. mick May 15th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Wow, great story pat. Chit chatting with the Mick must have been interesting..
    ========================
    Why Shame thank y’all….

  263. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    blake -

    yes, they are very dumb. But I have a headache and can’t get anything done today so I’m reduced to voting in an online poll because I took umbrage at the possibility of anyone thinking the Red Sox could possibly have a better uniform than the Yankees.

    ;)

  264. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    my fav were the bushwackers, but it’s far more interesting to listen to Ultimate Warrior introspecting about the mysteries of the universe.

  265. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    astrocityfan May 15th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
    GLOVE,
    DUDE! dusty and maggie may! (as Dusty would say) Some of my best memories as a kid are from going to see Dusty in little venues around NC. Those were the days….

    I actually got to meet Ric Flair and Arn Anderson once.
    ————————————————————————————-
    Did you read Ric Flair’s book? I bought that as soon as it was release & finished the book in one weekend. That’s quick for me because I don’t read books often.
    I grew up watching NWA Wrestling on TBS. I think it was every Saturday mornings.
    Gordon Solie was the MC and there was nobody better in the business.

  266. Shame Spencer May 15th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    randy l. May 15th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    “You’re Dick Cheney in real life, aren’t you..?”

    shame,

    if i were dick cheney in real life, i’d shoot myself.

    of course , i were him, i’d miss my head and shoot an innocent bystander :)

    ——————–

    :lol:

  267. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    “Ichiro Suzuki, the projected everyday (or thereabouts) right fielder coming into the season, has hit a punchless .246/.289/.341 (63 wRC+) in 137 plate appearances this year. That is pretty atrocious. Remember how awful Randy Winn was in 2010? How we couldn’t wait until the team designated him for assignment? He had a 63 wRC+ with the Yankees that year. Chris Stewart had a 65 wRC+ last year. Ichiro, a corner outfielder, is hitting like a backup catcher.”

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/...../#comments

    I know people are worried about Granderson’s all or nothing approach. But I’ll gladly take his output for the rest of the yr over what Ichiro has been doing.

  268. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    My grandfather has a ball he got signed by DiMaggio… it sits in this glass case in my house like some rare artifact in a museum.
    ///

    Shame,

    My aunt got Dimag’s autograph so many times, he finally said to her: “Don’t I know you?” But, contrary to his surly reputation, he kindly kept on signing :D.

    She and my Dad actually took the subway when they were barely out of toddler-hood to the Stadium, and as they were still completing construction on it (the first time around), the construction workers, who took a shine to them, had ways to sneak them in.

    They used to return home triumphant and tell my great uncle Andrew that the Yankees had won that day, and he’d say “that, and a nickel, will get you a ride in the subway.” And in those days, that’s what it cost!

  269. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb9aAXo-u78

    I feel smarter just by watching this.

  270. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    My dad shook DiMaggio’s hand, no autograph though

  271. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Ichiro, Grandy, Wells & Gardner
    4 OF’s with only 3 spots available per day. Sounds like a good problem to have
    Girardi will do a fine job of getting all of them at bats and all of them days off from
    time to time.

  272. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    One of the best Joe D stories is him protesting to Paul Simon: “but I haven’t gone anywhere!”

    Classic.

  273. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Ichiro, Grandy, Wells & Gardner
    4 OF’s with only 3 spots available per day. Sounds like a good problem to have

    —————

    It would be if Ichiro hadn’t been a below avg player for 2+ seasons now. All we can hope is that the rest you mentioned helps improve his numbers a bit.

  274. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Mrs, Robinson would probably have had an easier time in seducing Mickey than Joe but then, you never know.

  275. mick May 15th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    “You’re Dick Cheney in real life, aren’t you..?”
    ==========================
    Not our Randy. He’s slightly to the left of that Dick.

  276. Duh Innings II May 15th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    The 2014 Yankees starting nine if it was all homegrown (‘having fun here):

    C – Cervelli (Romine backs him up or takes his job if he’s not getting the job done offensively and/or defensively.)

    1B – Joseph (Trade Teixiera and $33.75M or half his remaining salary to the Mariners for Brendan Ryan. Re-sign Overbay to be Joseph’s backup, defensive coach, and veteran mentor.)

    2B – Cano (Re-sign him for six years at $25M a year for $150M, only $39M less than Jeter’s record $189M contract for 2001-2011 for four less years of work and the second biggest contract for a Yankee farm system player in team history.)

    3B – Adams (Buy out A-Rod for $43M or half his remaining salary so he makes $71M for doing nothing since he’s not playing this season because the Yanks are not paying him $28M for maybe two months of baseball.)

    SS – Nunez (Let go of Jeter after he declines his $8M player’s option for 2014 and asks for two or three years he is not worth. Re-sign Nix to be the backup 2B/SS and third string 3B.)

    LF – Almonte

    CF – Gardner

    RF – Mesa (Trade Ichiro and half his 2014 salary back to the Mariners.)

    DH – Mustelier (so he doesn’t have to play the field.)

    Cano, the new captain of the team, is the oldest and most expensive player, Gardner is the second-most.

    Cano is the only position player signed beyond 2014.

    Wells, Overbay, Nix, Cervelli, and Nunez are the third through seventh highest paid position players, respectively. The first three and Gardner are the only position players not under control after 2014.

    Vernon Wells plays LF and RF twice a week each plus DH twice a week so he plays six out of every seven games for only $2.4M.

    Almonte, Mesa, and Mustlelier make the rookie minimum, Romine, Joseph, and Adams just above it.

  277. Duh Innings II May 15th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    I meant let go of Nix, Ryan is the new backup 2B/SS.

  278. Nick in SF May 15th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Joe DiMaggio with the Martinez Peewee Baseball team in 1964:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sftweeindieguy/status/325047535787995136/photo/1

  279. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    HA! Tex would NEVER agree to waive his NTC to go to Seattle.

  280. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Duh,

    I know you’re just fooling around….but that might be the worst lineup in MLB history.

    And you have a better chance of Arod accepting that buyout (no chance, really) than Cano accepting 6/150.

  281. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    My Uncle owned a pretty popular restaurant in Charlotte, NC and he told me Ric Flair would come in there, get really drunk and walk into the clear glass wall dividers & also the mirrored wall in the place without clockwork drawing blood. He said he would bleed if you just tapped him on the forehead.

    NWA on TBS always felt like the R rated version of the WWF when I was a kid.

  282. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Since Jeter is homegrown, I’d much prefer he accept his option and play SS over Nunez. At least that would help the lineup.

  283. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    G Love
    Great story. What year was that when Ric would walk into your uncle’s restaurant?

    I remember being “scared” when I would see Wrestlers bleed on TBS. Obviously I thought Wrestling was real and when some of my hero’s were being attacked, thrown into steel poles and blood was drawn, my heart would race and I would want to look away.

  284. RayVT May 15th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    I have Cy Young’s autograph! Does that count?

  285. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Since Jeter is homegrown, I’d much prefer he accept his option and play SS over Nunez. At least that would help the lineup.
    ___

    There is room for Jeter AND Nunez….
    Jeter is definitely not going to be playing SS everyday anymore.

  286. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    NWA on TBS always felt like the R rated version of the WWF when I was a kid

    ——————

    Agreed the NWA/early years of WCW were great.

  287. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Warning Track,

    It was during the mid to late 80′s. He used to tell me Sgt. Slaughter came in all the time and most of the NWA wrestlers were based out of Charlotte.

    I thought it was real too when I was little. I had this hardcover book about wrestling history that had like two pages and pics on a bunch of different wrestlers and I remember I used to get terrified looking at the entry for “Abdullah The Butcher”. There was so much blood. I don’t ever remember seeing him on TV though – he just existed for me in that book.

    Then I hit puberty and left wrestling behind.

    My favorite wrestlers were Rickey Steamboat and Superfly Snuka. My wife bought me their WWF dolls off ebay as a present and they’re in my office.

  288. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I would say Jeter be a fool not taking the option, it’s a proactive choice, it also nets him what i think the most money he can earned for 14. it’s all about the benjamins with Jeter and with most others.

  289. G. Love May 15th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    “RayVT May 15th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
    I have Cy Young’s autograph! Does that count?”

    Compared to my Dusty “The American Dream” Rhodes and Magnum TA? No.

  290. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    There is room for Jeter AND Nunez….
    Jeter is definitely not going to be playing SS everyday anymore.

    —————-

    My comment was in response to Duh’s post about a home grown lineup. He had Nunez as the starter and Jeter off the team.

  291. Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    G Love
    I also left wresting behind in my early teens. Once Hogan took over the WWF, my interest in wrestling was quickly lost. I guess you can saw he ruined the sport for me.
    Snuka recently released his own book. Very simple read. IMO, Flair’s book is much better. Snuka kept from going into specific details in his book. Where Flair did not shy away from getting into specifics and naming names.
    I do recall that a lot of wrestlers were based in Charlotte.
    Remember when Gordon Solie would narrate over footage shot on 8 mm film from
    The Omni in Atlanta? Those were fun matches to see because the aerial shot was unique and the entire venue was dark except for the ring.

  292. Nick in SF May 15th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    I’m not too big on autographs, but I got CC and Joba to sign a ticket after they posed with me for pictures. I guess I could frame it.

  293. blake May 15th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Doreen,
    I totally understand

  294. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    HA! Tex would NEVER agree to waive his NTC to go to Seattle.
    __

    He will never agree to go anywhere unless they tell him he is either a platoon player or on the bench.

  295. pat May 15th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Maybe a couple of thousand people might buy tickets to see that team play in SWB.

  296. blake May 15th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    I used to work out at a gym Rick Flair owned and he’d come by every now and then…..he was always pretty nice from what I saw and what I heard……..woooooooooo

  297. Against All Odds May 15th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Warning Track Power May 15th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    ————————–

    Beware the shiny new toy.

  298. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    He will never agree to go anywhere unless they tell him he is either a platoon player or on the bench.

    I don’t think he will go anywhere, period. Tex the consummate teammate will accept those conditions and take his money. Now…if you throw in another 40 mil for him to waive …

  299. 86w183 May 15th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    My favorite autographs were Joe Dimaggio, Brooks Robinson (awesome person) and Cazzie Russell (my favorite Knicks in the day, my Dad met him, I didn’t).

    Don’t have any of them ever more

  300. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    You are on the Mark, Tex!

  301. tomingeorgia May 15th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    I go back to Antonino Rocca, Haystack Calhoun and Killer Kowalski, of the feared “claw hold”.

  302. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    “I don’t think he will go anywhere, period. Tex the consummate teammate will accept those conditions and take his money. Now…if you throw in another 40 mil for him to waive …”

    Let’s test that by making him a platoon hitter when/if he comes off the DL if Overbay is still hitting RHP.

  303. astrocityfan May 15th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    WTP et al,
    Solie was the voice of wrestling for me as a kid. I use to watch wresting from Florida on a little black and white tv cause my dad didnt like to watch it. My mom would take me and some relatives to watch it at places like the Dorten Arena in Raleigh. We went to a local ballpark when i was 8 and saw dusty vs sgt slaughter. Slaughter drove into the place on a camo cadilac lol.

    I got to talk to Flair while working in a call center. He called into from Japan one day drunk as a skunk lol. Later, i met by sheer chance, one of his sons in law. This was shortly after the book came out. It did not go over very well in the flair house and eventually led to his first divorce.

  304. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    “Cazzie Russell (my favorite Knicks in the day, my Dad met him, I didn’t)”

    I actually met him at Yankee Stadium as a kid.

  305. Chip May 15th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    blake May 15th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    I think Montero might have to get out of Seattle and get a fresh start somewhere else……it just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen there and now he’s not really playing every day so it’s gonna make it even tougher to find his stroke.
    ——————-

    Is it possible that Montero’s not as good as we thought he was and that the Yankees did the right thing dealing him when they did?

    I don’t blame Wedge for not playing him. If he’s not hitting (which he’s not) then his defense isn’t good enough to keep him in the lineup.

  306. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Flair was stylin and profilin on the treadmill?

  307. Chip May 15th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    “I don’t think he will go anywhere, period. Tex the consummate teammate will accept those conditions and take his money. Now…if you throw in another 40 mil for him to waive …”

    Let’s test that by making him a platoon hitter when/if he comes off the DL if Overbay is still hitting RHP.
    ———————–

    I don’t think the numbers will work to keep Overbay and Tex.

  308. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Chip

    What numbers, roster?

    If Youk is back by then, that could be a problem because both Youk and Tex could easily return to the DL, and Overbay, to everyone’s surprise is hitting:

    .303 .354 .596 .950 v, RHP

    If he maintains a level anything close to that, he has to stay.

  309. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Rich, let’s say you scenario does occur, tex is platooned. then what, you gonna dump that enormous contract on another team who is dumb enough to take it. let’s consider the Burnett playbook, then you are up against the fringe benefit of saving a few mil a year to what he can contribute RH as a yankee. Just saying, not happening.

  310. blake May 15th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    “Is it possible that Montero’s not as good as we thought he was and that the Yankees did the right thing dealing him when they did?”

    sure…..but I think it’s also possible that he needs a fresh start somewhere else and that trying to learn to hit in that park wasn’t the easiest thing.

  311. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    “Is it possible that Montero’s not as good as we thought he was and that the Yankees did the right thing dealing him when they did?”

    Smoak and Ackley too?

    I’m skeptical.

  312. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Cash

    As things stand now, he doesn’t deserve to play v. RHP. You may have to add a prospect to induce a team, but whether or not it ultimately becomes viable, it should be explored.

  313. Chip May 15th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Chip

    What numbers, roster?
    —————

    Yep those numbers. Though I guess you could go with a bench of Overbay, Ichiro, Nix and Romine until Jeter or Alex comes back.

  314. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Rich, I am not saying it shouldn’t be explored, i am saying it’s most likely a fruitless exercise like the Rod.

  315. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    some teams are operating on their entire budget on what Tex and Rod is making…

  316. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Cash

    I never thought the RS could pull off the AGone, Beckett trade.

    Sometimes stuff happens.

    Either way, the Yankees have to ride the Overbay wave until it recedes.

  317. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    A good insight on promotions from AAA to the majors for older players:

    http://dirkhayhurst.com/2013/0.....hs-future/

  318. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Aardsma was released by the Marlins…
    Rough couple months for him.

  319. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Dodgers took on some talents along with money and Beckett (much short term risk) The problem here is no one thinks much of Tex and Rod til they prove otherwise, and you can’t prove otherwise unless they play. if they don’t, they are and will be Yankee’s problem.

  320. JCPD May 15th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Autographs… I’ve got a baseball signed by 23 players from one of the late 1940′s Yankees team that my dad had.

  321. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    If he maintains a level anything close to that, he has to stay.
    ____

    I agree they may just need to go with 14 hitters and 11 pitchers.
    Cannot release Overbay with tex and youk being injury risks and how well overbay is playing.

  322. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Cash

    A-Rod is unmovable forever. That’s a given.

    And as I said, they may have to include a young asset as an inducement.`

  323. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 15th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Just a few fun facts I heard on WEEI.

    Sux are 2-9 in their last 11 games.

    Milkshakes’ game started going downhill with the article by Shaughnessey but today’s he’s talking about a tight oblique, saying he’s been playing with it but he’s had to change his batting stance (always always an excuse)

    Sux record started going downhill with the “revelation” that laptops and Tezawa were rubbing the ball with some foreign substance.

    ***********

    I am firmly convinced that lying and cheating beget something akin to Newton’s law – for every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction.

  324. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Champ809 made an interesting point that Wedge may be worried about job security and may be letting that dictate how patient he is with Montero. He knows they have Zunino so maybe he’s decided he’s not going to stick his neck out for the sake of Montero’s development. That they need to get him as many ABs as possible is obvious. Not only is he only 23 and on his second year, he’s on a learning curve as a catcher. JR Murphy didn’t put up great numbers in AA last year because he was more focused on catching. I think with Montero, an organization has to be all in, or they’re not going to reap the rewards. He should be the DH when he is not behind the plate.

  325. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    And congratulations to Melky Cabrera for getting his ring yesterday :D

  326. pat May 15th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Aardsma says he asked the Marlins for his release.

  327. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Trish, though with Ortiz being so fragile, it is possible he was hurt too.
    This is a man who missed many months injuring himself jogging from 2nd to 3rd on a homerun.

  328. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    both wedge and Z are on the hot seat, it’s interesting we see Montero from a yankee prospective. It does occur to me, fans are seattle are calling for Z’s head with the poor developments of all their young hitters and blaming Z for trading away a great chip in Pineda. but from a franchise prospective, I think playing shoppach over Montero is foolish. Ms gonna win 79 games as oppose to 69? but fans are getting impatient for sure in seattle.

  329. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    I realize that this isnt popular, but Teix is a better player than Overbay. He’s a better fielder, he crushes lefties and he’s not that much worse vs righties (especially if you assume Overbay will start to come back to earth).

    I dont care about the money. He’s already signed to the deal he has. So i just want the yanks to play the better player and Teix is the better player.

  330. Doreen May 15th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    pat, that’s odd, isn’t it?

    Wonder what’s going on…

  331. pat May 15th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    @AndrewMarchand
    Adams up. He says he is in the lineup.

  332. Rich in NJ May 15th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    “I realize that this isnt popular, but Teix is a better player than Overbay. He’s a better fielder, he crushes lefties and he’s not that much worse vs righties (especially if you assume Overbay will start to come back to earth).”

    He is, although probably only marginally v. RHP.

    Although, given the $230m payroll, it’s as much a win-now team as there ever was, and there is little reason to think that Tex will be better than Overrbay v. RHP this season, especially given that it appears that Tex may be susceptible to re-injury batting LH.

    “I don’t care about the money”

    If the austerity budget is real, they probably do.

  333. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    I am so happy for David Adams.
    I really hope he makes the most of the chance….

  334. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    both wedge and Z are on the hot seat,
    ////

    That’s right, JackZ is in his final year, too, isn’t he.

    Will Adams get to play on his birthday?

  335. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    I hope so too, and i hope that chance gives him a real one to succeed.

  336. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    CC, Tex is a better player than Overbay, but I rather see a lot hitters facing RHP with his pitchable approach and not correctable mechanics according to him. we can throw money aside in this discussion but Tex is very flaw hitter consider you face far more righties than lefties. I never thought i say this, but Overbay is a need here base on how sucky Tex is against RHP. if we had Agone, it would not be an issue.

  337. pat May 15th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Doreen

    Maybe another team came a calling and he had an out built in his contract.

  338. blake May 15th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    “I realize that this isnt popular, but Teix is a better player than Overbay. He’s a better fielder, he crushes lefties and he’s not that much worse vs righties (especially if you assume Overbay will start to come back to earth).”

    those things are true…..however when you make 23 million dollars a year you need to be more than “he’s not that much worse vs righties than Lyle Overbay”. I

  339. ac1 May 15th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    I hope so too, and i hope that chance gives him a real one to succeed.
    ____

    Just hope they dont Romine him…..

  340. Cashmoney May 15th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    very glad Adam is up.

  341. pat May 15th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Doreen

    I was at least half right.

    Ken_Rosenthal
    Aardsma and #Marlins agreed that they would release him at his request if he was not in majors by May 15. That is what happened today.

  342. J. Alfred Prufrock May 15th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    The Yankees, as usual, are tied up in an aging player so Adams’ chance will likely be limited. I also don’t see them “settling” for a 3B who doesn’t have great slug, so maybe if Adams can flip the switch up here, they deal him in a package and he gets a shot elsewhere, and they get something in return that isn’t…..old.

  343. CountryClub May 15th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    SSS, but since he was a poular topic yesterday:

    Michael Young since April 30: .191/.254/.277

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