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MLB discussing significant replay expansion

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 17, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Going to have to wait for some sort of update on Andy Pettitte and Chris Stewart. For now, there’s some news in baseball as a whole. Major League Baseball’s owners met in New York this week, and Bud Selig made it clear yesterday that there could be a significant expansion of instant replay next season. Here’s the AP story…

Bud SeligNEW YORK (AP) — Major League Baseball appears set for a vast expansion of video review by umpires in 2014 and is examining whether all calls other than balls and strikes should be subject to instant replay.

Replay has been in place for home run calls since August 2008. Commissioner Bud Selig initially wanted to add trap plays and fair/foul calls down the lines for 2013, but change was put off while more radical options were examined.

“My opinion has evolved,” Selig said Thursday after MLB executive vice president Joe Torre gave an update at a quarterly owners’ meeting.

Torre hopes to have proposals by the Aug. 14-15 session in Cooperstown, N.Y.

Umpires are under heightened scrutiny following two wrong decisions last week. After initially failing to award Oakland’s Adam Rosales a tying home run in the ninth inning at Cleveland on May 8, Angel Hernandez’s umpiring crew reviewed video and still didn’t award him the homer even though replays showed the ball clearly went over the fence.

The following day, umpire Fieldin Culbreth’s crew allowed Houston manager Bo Porter to improperly switch relievers in the middle of an inning, leading to a two-game suspension for the crew chief.

“Have we had a bad week or so? Yeah,” Torre said. “One was a rules thing; it had nothing to do with replay.”

In tests last year at Yankee Stadium and Citi Field, MLB experimented with the Hawk-Eye animation system that is used to judge line calls in tennis and the TrackMan radar software used by the PGA Tour.

While initially assigned to a large “special committee for on-field matters” that Selig established in 2009, replay recommendations will now come from a subcommittee of three: Torre, former St. Louis manager Tony La Russa and Atlanta president John Schuerholz, who is chairing the group.

“There are a lot of hurdles,” Torre said. “You could start replaying stuff from the first inning on and then time the game by your calendar. That would be crazy. We have a rhythm in this game that we certainly don’t want to disrupt.”

The group is examining whether to have replay officials in booths at ballparks or at a central location, and whether to have umpires wear headsets, as soccer officials do. Torre is against giving managers a challenge system, as NFL coaches have, but says opinion is split.

“Managers have to make enough decisions,” he said. “We’ve tried to stay away from technology telling us what to do.”

The NFL, NBA, NHL, some NCAA sports and major tennis tournaments all use a form of replay, and even FIFA and the English Premier have adopted goal-line technology.

Seattle’s Eric Wedge opposes a challenge system, maintaining: “I’m in favor of the human element.”

Yankees manager Joe Girardi favors a challenge system and said more replay would cut down on arguments and would help umpires, too.

“Years ago they made mistakes, but it wasn’t shown to millions of people,” he said. “I think it would take pressure off them because, bottom line, the call is going to be right.”

Torre said his decision to examine a big expansion came after Jeff Nelson missed a call at second base in the second game of last year’s AL championship series. Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano tagged Detroit’s Omar Infante, and Nelson ruled him safe instead of calling an inning-ending out. Detroit stretched its lead from one run to three and went on to a 3-0 victory and a four-game sweep.

“That really caught my eye and caught my attention with the fact that there was more conversation about that instead of the game itself,” Torre said. “There’s no question we’re considering much more than the trap play and fair/foul. But again, one of the decisions we have to make is how much of this do we want to do without really disrupting and putting people to sleep?”

Players seem to be generally in favor of more replay.

“I like the idea that it is 2013, and since there are things available, at least consider the idea of taking a look at them,” Yankees All-Star outfielder Curtis Granderson said. “It is a very traditional sport, but a lot of these things weren’t available back when the game was originated. But now that you do have the ability to slow it down, freeze it, this that and the other, it’s definitely something to look into.”

Joe TorreOn other topics:

• Selig wouldn’t discuss the investigation of players alleged to have received performance-enhancing drugs from a now-closed Florida anti-aging clinic other than to say the probe was ongoing.

• Selig said there was no news on Oakland’s quest for a new ballpark in San Jose and the San Francisco Giants to give up their territorial rights there. Selig said the committee he appointed in March 2009 is still at work.

• Executive vice president Rob Manfred is negotiating with the players’ union over the possibility of starting an international draft in 2014. Management has until June 1 to inform the union it intends to begin a world draft, and the union has until June 15 to reject it.

• While average attendance through May 15 declined 3.1 percent, from 29,740 to 28,823, Selig blamed the decrease on weather that was “really bad, painfully bad” and said “I’m not overly concerned.” MLB has had 21 weather-related postponements, matching the total for all of last season.

• Selig said an international opener is possible for 2014. Australian baseball officials have expressed interest.

• While the pension plan for non-uniformed employees was discussed, no action was taken. MLB has considered eliminating its league-wide plan and allowing teams to make individual decisions.

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222 Responses to “MLB discussing significant replay expansion”

  1. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Ichiro did not trap that ball.

    How about we agree to never post Bud Selig’s face on this website again?

  2. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    I would replace all those rich folks behind home plate at YS with me and my hooligan friends.
    ___

    Even better.
    Get REAL fans back there, not guys in suits who don’t pay attention.

  3. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Are they just expanding an unrealistic, flawed system…?? Or are they actually going to take the time to reevaluate the process?

  4. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    I know they’re saying their considering other options, but MLB is so soooooo slow to implement changes.

  5. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    As we saw with Angel Hernandez’ call, having the replay doesn’t guarantee no mistakes. Fewer, but not zero. However, I do think Angel Hernandez is an issue of its own, and if they go to an additional umpire in a control room setting, with state-of-the-art equipment, that would help.

  6. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Are they just expanding an unrealistic, flawed system…??
    ——-
    The Cybernetic Corp is currently working in secrecy with Bud on U5000.

  7. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    RAB
    Max asks: At what point should we worry about Robinson Cano‘s bad lefty splits going forward? He’s hitting .254/.299/.476 against lefties this year and had a .239/.309/.337 line last year. Sure, he still mashes righties but I’m really not comfortable with the idea of giving a potential platoon player a megadeal. Thanks.
    Oh it’s definitely a red flag right. Cano hit lefties nearly as well as he hit righties until last season, when his performance fell off a cliff. I looked at the data as part of our season review and didn’t find any significant red flags. This year though, both his ground ball (56.3%) and strikeout (22.4%) rates are way up against southpaws. That could change in a hurry since it’s so early in the season. If that continues into the summer, I’d be very worried. Giving a super-long contract to a middle infielder is risky enough, and it would be even worse if he’s morphed into a platoon bat. Not worried yet, but I will be watching this.

  8. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    *U5, my apology, U5000 is actually Bud’s toupee.

  9. blake May 17th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Jesus Bustero says:
    May 17, 2013 at 8:42 am
    Powerball is up to 550 million. It will probably hit 600 million before Saturday’s drawing. I’d buy the Charleston Riverdogs.

    It might be more fun to co own with Bill Murray

  10. blake May 17th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    I agree that Cano’s splits are something to watch….he’s not been Choo bad vs them but having your best hitter be susceptible to LhP and Loogies late in games isn’t ideal

  11. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Hanging out with Murray would be fun, but then for 600 mil you could probably cast Murray in Napoleonbrenner, the George story. of course by the time IRS get thru with you, you be with 250 mil and to take one lump sum would probably reduce it to 180 mil, but we can survive on that.

  12. blake May 17th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “As we saw with Angel Hernandez’ call, having the replay doesn’t guarantee no mistakes. ”

    It should if you have non blind and non old geezer set in their ways umpires

  13. blake May 17th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I would like to own a minor league team though…. I think that’d be super fun

  14. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Did Cano change his approach or something??

  15. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    If I win the PowerBall, I’ll treat all of LoHud to a series at the Stadium in one of those luxury boxes. You have my word.

    (Chad, just a heads up – you’ll be my date.)

  16. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    just a tangential thought, Slots are undoubtedly the worst odds game in a casino, I think the last check it it has an in-build 1/6 odds against the players but that pales in comparison with lottery tickets which is essentially legalized gambling.

  17. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    i was surprised they pitched to cano in the ninth.

    i thought it was a mistake.

    maybe not.

  18. Hassey May 17th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    not a mistake to pitch to Cano right now. He is either the Heat Miser or the Cold Miser and nothing in-between

  19. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    I’d buy the Riverdogs, trade for Jesus Montero and hire Randy as my catching instructor.

  20. blake May 17th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    May 17, 2013 at 9:32 am
    Did Cano change his approach or something??

    Not that i can tell….some theorize that developing a significant platoon split is the earliest sign of decline. Cano still mashes RHP but if he continues to struge vs lefties then it a red flag

  21. blake May 17th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Jesus Bustero says:
    May 17, 2013 at 9:41 am
    I’d buy the Riverdogs, trade for Jesus Montero and hire Randy as my catching instructor.

    Send him back to low A? That’s harsh

  22. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    @KenDavidoff

    Hal Steinbrenner sees the #Yankees on the right course re: Cano, Girardi and sub-$189 million. http://bit.ly/13ss65H

  23. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    everyone knows i’m rooting for rapid implosion to get a fresh start with new management , but young players throw a monkey wrench into my thinking.

    i want to see young players doing well. say betances. i’d like to see him harness his potential, but the problem is he either sinks or swims under the pressure to win. he’s not being brought up because this is a good time for him and a planned part of his development, but rather as a patch.

    if the patch blows , it’s thrown away and a new one is used. to me that’s not so much a development plan but a recipe for disaster.

    if hal would come out and blow it up and start fresh with young players, i’d be behind it 100%. this patching, mixing and matching of old guys who would be playing in a senior league if they had one is doomed to failure over the long run.

    adams at thord is nice , romine is a step in the right direction.betances is nice. bring up jr murphy. bring up a double a outfielder. why not?

    oh i forgot. the yankees have spent 230 million to have all these “stars” hold the fort.

    the irony is the young players get brought up anyway, just not when they should , but when an old guy gets hurt. dumb way to do it.

  24. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    I’m willing to make that sacrifice for Randy, plus it will keep him preoccupied so everybody wins.

  25. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    From the Davidoff article: “The $189 million payroll for 2014 is more in play than ever.”

    ………………….

    ………………….

    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????? – Nancy Kerrigan.

  26. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Montero didn’t have a bad game yesterday at all. That throw in the 9th was terrible, but I was shocked he was even able to power it that far considering he threw it from one knee. Either way he had no chance to get Gardner (he should have held it), since he was able to take like 5-6 steps before Wilhelmsen even got the ball out of his hand.

  27. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    The Yankees are competing and getting experience for young players at the same time. You may disagree with the methodology but you can’t ask for anything more. Some teams lose and throw young players into the fire. The Yankees are winning and slowly exposing young players to major league caliber opposition. I don’t care if it’s patchwork because you rarely see teams play young players while continuing to compete.

  28. joecembrale May 17th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Hassey May 17th, 2013 at 9:41 am
    not a mistake to pitch to Cano right now. He is either the Heat Miser or the Cold Miser and nothing in-between

    Does anyone think that pitching to Cano in the 9th conjures up the same fear teams have of pitching to Ortiz, Cabbrera or Fielder? Cano is a great hitter but he can be handled.

  29. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    “Jesus Bustero says:
    May 17, 2013 at 9:41 am
    I’d buy the Riverdogs, trade for Jesus Montero and hire Randy as my catching instructor.

    Send him back to low A? That’s harsh”

    i have to warn you brett, that as a bullpen catcher i once had to haul my GM in a headlock out of a team party so clete boyer wouldn’t kill him. he took a swing at clete. bad idea.
    anyway down the hall into elevator, press buttons, go down 10 floors, out through lobby and throw GM still in headlock into taxi cab.

    luckily for me the GM was so drunk he didn’t remember it was me the next day.
    it’s never a good sign to be a bullpen catcher and have your GM in a headlock.

    so you can hire me as a catching instructor, but watch out who you take a swing at :)

  30. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    I don’t care if it’s patchwork because you rarely see teams play young players while continuing to compete.

    ——————-

    This is just not true.

    But I do agree I’m glad some of our younger guys are getting a chance to compete. I do wish some of our more high ceiling guys are closer but beggars can’t be choosers. I’d love to see Claiborne, Adams, and Dellin make some noise up here. I dunno how to feel about Romine. He was never projected to be anything more than a good defensive catcher. I would think he would out-produce Stewie offensively if all things were equal… but I’m sort of salivating over Murphy. I’m waiting to see how they move him.. I’m thinking they won’t even consider him until 2015.

  31. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    I’m a lover not a fighter. I kill with kindness.

  32. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Some fans act like the Yankees are stunting the growth of players. This is just not true. There is not a single player who deserves to be called up and is being unreasonably detained in the minors.

  33. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:58 am
    Some fans act like the Yankees are stunting the growth of players. This is just not true. There is not a single player who deserves to be called up and is being unreasonably detained in the minors.

    Agree.

  34. joecembrale May 17th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 9:58 am
    Some fans act like the Yankees are stunting the growth of players. This is just not true. There is not a single player who deserves to be called up and is being unreasonably detained in the minors.

    Agree 1000%

  35. GregD May 17th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    It’s not like the outfielders in AA ball have ankle bracelet alarms on that go off if they get near YS

  36. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    “I’m a lover not a fighter. I kill with kindness.”

    bret

    if you turn out to be a sociopathic serial killer, those words are going to be the headline on cnn

    i will say” he started out such a nice blogger. then he snapped as jesus montero led the charge taking two of three from the yankees.”.

  37. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Free Musty!

  38. longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 9:57 am
    Do we really expect anything different than what we are seeing, older guys, Pettitte, Hafner, Youkalis, out of shape guys, Joba, Nova, backups like Steward, Nix, Francisco, Gardner a great defender, but it ends there, time for ownership to wake up and field a competitive team, look at the empty seats in the stadium night after night, team such as it is, has been lucky so far, no way do they maintain this luck throughout the season, our yankees have major problems and ownership doesn’t seem to care.

  39. Bo knows May 17th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    I guess 1st is not competitive.

  40. longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Hassey May 17th, 2013 at 9:41 am
    not a mistake to pitch to Cano right now. He is either the Heat Miser or the Cold Miser and nothing in-between

    Does anyone think that pitching to Cano in the 9th conjures up the same fear teams have of pitching to Ortiz, Cabbrera or Fielder? Cano is a great hitter but he can be handled

    Agree 100%, just pitch him off the plate and he will chase, he is not one of the elite hitters in the game today

  41. longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    guess 1st is not competitive.

    check back in 2 weeks

  42. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    the yankees are kind of stuck with the old guys now. they’re signed. the time to blow it up was before signing on all the brittle dead wood.

    but i still like seeing the young players. i wont bother watching hafner, wells, ichiro, youkillis, and stewart, but i’d watch JR murphy if he comes up.

  43. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    “I guess 1st is not competitive.”

    they give a trophy for first on may 17th?

  44. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Hal is counting on young or cheap players to play major roles in 14 if 189 is to happen. I think especially on the pitching side.

  45. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 17th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Dang! Now here’s a topic I’d like to biotch about endlessly – not doing something about balls and strikes, GRRR!!! – but I’m flying south to see one of my nieces get her PhD in French horn. (I still can’t wrap my mind around that concept, but whatever.)

    Rumor has it that poor itsgonnabealongseason will no longer be around to enjoy the long season. But I’m such his kin will show up to act as his proxy, so be on the lookout!

    :)

    GO YANKS!!!

  46. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Now that I can’t ignore the budget again.. do you guys think they’ll try to push Austin a little more since he’s come around? Or some of the other guys?

  47. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 10:13 am
    guess 1st is not competitive.

    check back in 2 weeks

    People here were saying that two weeks ago when they were in something like 3rd place.

    It’s not luck. Randy waiting until they lose a game by 10 runs to post expected win/loss does not make it luck.

    However, as injuries continue to mount, I would not be surprised if they slipped a little. They are now down to 3rd and 4th string catchers, and as we know how important even a poor catcher like Montero is, that must affect the team… :roll:

  48. joecembrale May 17th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Thisng is every team in this division has it warts. No one is running away with this anytime soon and a roster, as we know, is a work in progress. Some of the kids can can play and we can be competitive. Phelps\Warren\Claibourne can definately help the staff. Montgomery may be a guy on the horizon. Joseph’s bat is a nice addtion but I do not think 3rd is his position after seeing his throwing up close the other night. Romine is a nice backup catcher who can help in spots, but honestly, he can’t hit. My heart tells me to root for a kid that comes through the system it is what it is. Stewart can’t hit, but Romine really can’t hit.
    Ichiro or Garnder is going to have to pick it up, you can’t make the case for twoof your starting outfielders hitting under 250 with no pop.

  49. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    How do you get a Doctorate in French Horn?

  50. pat May 17th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    BenBadler
    Yankees $4 million Cuban LHP Omar Luis is on short-season Staten Island’s roster. Had been in Haiti for six months, obviously not pitching.

  51. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    “They are now down to 3rd and 4th string catchers,”

    the silver lining is when all the catchers aren’t that good, it’s no big loss to replace them.

    now if weiters went down, we’re talking a loss.

    cervelli or stewart, not so much.

  52. Hassey May 17th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    I’m still sitting by my phone waiting for the call – all I’d need is longer straps for the back of my chest protector

  53. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    I agree Randy. Bobby Wilson could very well outhit Romine and Stewie. Yanks went into the season with a mediocre at best tandem and now they aren’t much worse off imo.

  54. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    “Stewart can’t hit, but Romine really can’t hit.”

    romine had a much better career hitting in the minors.

  55. DONNYBROOK May 17th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    - FRIDAY MUSINGS -

    Yankee home attendance Only down roughly 3,500 a game? Heard any other good jokes lately?
    Allowing individual teams to decide their own pension plan for non-uniformed employees is tantamount to eliminating a pension plan. With MLB awash in $$$, this is pure BS.
    Adam’s looked good in last night’s game on both sides of the ball.
    It was obvious from Gardner’s dance around the bases in the 9th, why Montero’s catching days are numbered. And when did he start Attempting to throw runners out from his knees?
    Stewart being out for any length of time would be HUGE. With Hafner already day-to-day, there is No way the Yankees can play 2 guys short for Any length of time. Coulda used Hafner as a PH in the 9th last night.

  56. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    I think some people need to familiarize themselves with Bobby Wilson.

  57. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    If i were to guess, Romine could become a 270-280 hitter in the major in eventuality if his back don’t blow up but with little power.

  58. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    ‘If i were to guess, Romine could become a 270-280 hitter in the major in eventuality if his back don’t blow up but with little power.”

    that sounds about right

  59. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    does ever occur to anyone Nix can’t hit either or he just does those little things that makes him a “ballplayer”?.

  60. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    mariners taking 2 of 3 from the yankees not god for blog discussion. kind of put a little damper on things.

    all the enthusiasm in the world goes out the window with losses.

    of course a win or two and it goes the other way :)

  61. champ809 May 17th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Romine is better hitter than most on here seem to think. It will show if given a shot and he’s certainly more of an everyday starting major league catcher than a BUC.

    If the call is Bobby Wilson coming up then they corresponding move has to be to cut Ben Francisco not Melky Mesa imo. With Mesa you still at least have upside from the elite D and the speed as at worst a 4th OF’er type with pop. Francisco is just a waste of a roster spot at this point.

    I’d prefer to see the callup be JR Murphy as opposed to Bobby Wilson. It’s as simple to me as 1 guy represents the future of your organization and he’s playing at the top of his game right now whereas the other has absolutely no future with your organization. Murph is going to have to be 40-man protected anyway at the end of this season so do it now let him comeup for a couple of weeks and get his stick wet….get a feel for the place.

  62. DONNYBROOK May 17th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    How can Bud all the sudden be pushing replay technology, and Still running around with that Cereal Bowl Haircut??? Totally inconsistent.

  63. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Some fans act like the Yankees are stunting the growth of players. This is just not true. There is not a single player who deserves to be called up and is being unreasonably detained in the minors.

    Agree 1000%
    _________________

    This is true. NOW.

  64. longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 10:20 am
    longtimefan May 17th, 2013 at 10:13 am
    guess 1st is not competitive.

    check back in 2 weeks

    People here were saying that two weeks ago when they were in something like 3rd place.

    It’s not luck. Randy waiting until they lose a game by 10 runs to post expected win/loss does not make it luck.

    However, as injuries continue to mount, I would not be surprised if they slipped a little. They are now down to 3rd and 4th string catchers, and as we know how important even a poor catcher like Montero is, that must affect the team…

    Agree all AL East teams have issues, yankess seem to be especailly snake bitten so far, hopefully they weather the storm but it is a long season and older parts are more apt to break-down.

  65. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Yanks have bunch of flaw positional players in AAA. some can hit some like zolio but with suspect D, some have D like Mesa with question in regard to his stick. Adams to me, is closest thing to ML regular though his healthy is a huge question along with his stick which plays better at 2b.
    I love seeing young players coming up because it offers the wonders of unknown. but when i look at this crop, there really isn’t any greater mysteries to be too excite about it.

  66. MG May 17th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    If Stewart needs to go on the DL I would bring up Murphy for a couple of weeks and give him some time in the bigs.

    If he isn’t ready then you send him down and bring up Wilson, it won’t hurt Murphy any more than Nuno coming up for a spot start and going right back to Scranton.

    There is too much upside on Murphy (assuming the Yankees think he could be their catcher down the line) to not make that move as the risk is basically a game or two (and doubtful it would be that much) by having him play in the majors.

  67. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    If the call is Bobby Wilson coming up then they corresponding move has to be to cut Ben Francisco not Melky Mesa imo. With Mesa you still at least have upside from the elite D and the speed as at worst a 4th OF’er type with pop. Francisco is just a waste of a roster spot at this point.

    I’d prefer to see the callup be JR Murphy as opposed to Bobby Wilson. It’s as simple to me as 1 guy represents the future of your organization and he’s playing at the top of his game right now whereas the other has absolutely no future with your organization. Murph is going to have to be 40-man protected anyway at the end of this season so do it now let him comeup for a couple of weeks and get his stick wet….get a feel for the place.

    _________________

    The issue with JR will be finding space THIS year on the 40. What they dont want to happen is to have to lose real talent to waivers when the injured players come off the 60 day DL. After the season, this won’t be as big a deal.

    I think we all agree they have to add someone to catch, since they can’t go day to day with a back up catcher and leave 1 catcher active. And we mostly agree it has to be either Mesa or Francisco that gets DFA with Boesch being a possible 3rd option.

  68. Bo knows May 17th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    they give a trophy for first on may 17th?

    No, Boston hasn’t returned it from the April holding.

    com·pet·i·tive
    /k?m?pet?tiv/
    Adjective
    Of, relating to, or characterized by competition.
    Having or displaying a strong desire to be more successful than others: “she had a competitive streak”.
    Synonyms
    rival

  69. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Bobby Wilson’s career OPS is over 100 points lower than what Stewart was OPSing this year, and he is currently hitting .174 in the minors, he is a downgrade, even from Stewart.

  70. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    my guess is Wilson or C getting a veteran via trade. Alberto Gonzalez sort of thing.

  71. DONNYBROOK May 17th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Yankees need to look at stretching exercises and weight training. This injury history can Not be random.

  72. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Randy how can I be a cereal killer when I eat gluten-free?

  73. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    I am a huge Adams fan but for me, the treat of 2013 so far with regard to a single player is watching Adam Warren pitch. I would have NEVER guessed he would be an impact player for us. He is following the Phelps path, maybe even doing it a bit better. He may have opened the eyes of the org to consider him a real option to start next year.

  74. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Bobby Wilson’s career OPS is over 100 points lower than what Stewart was OPSing this year, and he is currently hitting .174 in the minors, he is a downgrade, even from Stewart.
    ___

    Wilson is certainly not ideal. At the very least, Romine is probably going to be the everyday starter for the immediate future.

  75. NYYROC May 17th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    IIRC it was 2007 when the NYY had a rash of hamstring problems (PH, Mussina, I think others). The training staff (not Geno but the fitness guys) were fired.

  76. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    What does the Stewart injury do to Nick’s bet with Luis about starts of Stewart vs. Romine?

  77. Bo knows May 17th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    I am a huge Adams fan but for me, the treat of 2013 so far with regard to a single player is watching Adam Warren pitch. I would have NEVER guessed he would be an impact player for us. He is following the Phelps path, maybe even doing it a bit better. He may have opened the eyes of the org to consider him a real option to start next year.
    ————
    Oh, yeah!

    He and Claiborne just tickle my risibilities. I enjoyed the ’13 version of Granderson as well. It’s been two games, but I’m on board.

    It’s too bad Adams has all that pressure on him to succeed quickly. I would have liked to ease him in slowly.

  78. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    DONNYBROOK May 17th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Yankees need to look at stretching exercises and weight training. This injury history can Not be random.

    ——————–

    It really isn’t.. the only surprises, IMO, as far as injuries go would be: Granderson and Nunez.

  79. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Well, I expected to lose 2 of 3 to the Mariners. So, I’m non-plussed by the events, really.

    Only concerned about mounting injuries, which, by the way are happening to players everywhere without regard to age. It’s non-discriminatory.

    Nova – not old
    Joba – not old
    Nunez – not old

    Any player between 28-32 not old

    I think what’s impacted more by age is the speed with which, or lack thereof, a player can rehab, but even that depends on the injury itself.

  80. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    What does the Stewart injury do to Nick’s bet with Luis about starts of Stewart vs. Romine?

    —————–

    I think they decided before the start of the bet that if either goes on the DL, the bet is off.

  81. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    I’d prefer to see the callup be JR Murphy as opposed to Bobby Wilson.”

    i would love to see murphy come up, but if they do they should play him at least half the time and live with whatever he does.

  82. Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Tex, shame?

  83. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    ?@Draft2Dynasty

    With Gumbs rejoing Tampa what to do w/Refsnyder. Yanks see Gumbs 2B of future behind Cano & Ref needs reps @ 2B but can’t get them DHing

    ———————–

    Gumbs is 21……… how could he be the 2B of the future behind Cano if Cano get’s a 8+ year deal?

    Either Gumbs has to learn a new position or Cano will be moved off 2B.

  84. bruceb May 17th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Yanks have scored 79 runs in 22 home games so far. Only the Mariners (76 in 20), the Royals (73 in 18) and the White Sox (58 in 17) have scored fewer. Given the boundaries of our stadium, you’re simply not going to keep winning with that sort of production. You’re relying on a “quality start” and a lights-out performance by the pen each and every night.

    For me, last night’s game was probably the most frustrating of the season so far. You can take being shut down by stellar pitching but (without being too disrespectful) not by the likes of Hector Noesi. Please hurry back Pronk and Youk.

  85. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    “Well, I expected to lose 2 of 3 to the Mariners. So, I’m non-plussed by the events, really.”

    doreen-

    why would you think the mariners would take two of three , especially with montero catching two of the three ?

  86. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Bobby Wilson was scratched from last night’s Scranton game before it started. He may be injured. I think only in that instance does JR get the call up, but doesn’t that present all kinds of other collateral administrative headaches, even aside from making room on the 40-man, which they have to do for Wilson anyway?

  87. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    They could solve the 40 man surplus by doing a 3 or 4-for-1 trade.

  88. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Bobby Wilson was scratched from last night’s Scranton game before it started. He may be injured. I think only in that instance does JR get the call up, but doesn’t that present all kinds of other collateral administrative headaches, even aside from making room on the 40-man, which they have to do for Wilson anyway?
    ____

    The only difference is they would release Wilson after his time in NY, but once they add Murphy to the 40 man, they will not be able to get him off of it without losing him in waivers. At least leaving him in AAA saves them the spot for 2013 and then they can add him in the offseason. They may not have a choice, unless they make a trade.

  89. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    A logjam of talent on a 40 man roster is a great problem to have.

  90. Bo knows May 17th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Wilson is Randy’s definition of catcher. “The pitcher doesn’t have go retrieve the ball”.

    Live long enough and you have a store of recyclable material that the young pups haven’t heard before. What’s considered “Old folks wisdom” is just a factor of recycled material vs memory loss.

    I can’t find my shorts in the morning but I remember an bat from thirty years ago.

  91. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Cervelli – Romine – Murphy – Sanchez

    I am mesmerized by the Yankees catching talent.

  92. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Randy,

    Because Felix had (has) insane numbers pitching at Yankee Stadium and Iwakuma has an ERA of less than 2.

    The ended up winning that first game because Felix came up a little lame. So, I was hoping they’d still win last night, but Noesi did a nice job, and Seattle’s bullpen was as advertised. Theyd gotten to the BP the first game; they weren’t gonna get them twice.

    I have my own way of thinking about these things. ;)

    Montero didn’t enter into the equation for me. But it was nice to see him play two of the games.

    Randy, you are mischaracterizing my opinion that Hernandez could pitch to anyone. That was more about Felix, and less about whoever it was catching him.

    And I am not a person who believes that the book on Montero is closed – he’s too young to make that judgment. Catching part of his game was never his strength, and adequate to slightly above would be fine, as long as he is hitting. So far this season he’s not hitting and Seattle took the DH away from him so he is not getting the at-bats he needs to turn it around more quickly.

  93. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Cashmoney May 17th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Tex, shame?

    —————-

    Tex has battled injuries (pulling and tweaking stuff) over the past couple years. I wasn’t all that surprised he went down, though I admittedly didn’t expect it to be something as terrible as a wrist. I figured he’d pull his hammy a few times.

  94. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    They could solve the 40 man surplus by doing a 3 or 4-for-1 trade.
    ___

    Could trade Jobber alone too.
    They aren’t shedding Youkilis, Ichiro etc.
    We are stuck with them short of releasing them.

    Ben Francisco has been the Sanjaya of the 2013 Yankee season.
    It’s time for him to go.
    Simple enough.

  95. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    We gotta get back to winning series more consistently… this team, with more of our star players, btw, is the same one that blew a 10 game lead. No lead is too big. Get it, boys!

    (I fear my positivity regarding the month of May might be responsible for their poor play thus far. My apologies, folks.)

  96. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    ac1 -

    Which is why I think they’d prefer to promote Wilson first – fewer repercussions. Ultimately JR will be on the 40-man anyway, but I think having to rush into those kinds of moves kinda stinks.

  97. Bo knows May 17th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Montero – Two words. Windshield wiper.

  98. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Ace1, Jobber for a low minors prospect not on the 40?

  99. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Well, I expected to lose 2 of 3 to the Mariners. So, I’m non-plussed by the events, really.

    ——————-

    Why would anyone expect this..???

  100. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Which is why I think they’d prefer to promote Wilson first – fewer repercussions. Ultimately JR will be on the 40-man anyway, but I think having to rush into those kinds of moves kinda stinks.
    _____

    I agree this is what will probably happen.
    Can’t say I wouldn’t mind seeing Murphy get the chance though.

    We were all over Cashman in March for how he dealt with the 40.
    If he can pull this off without losing our major prospects to waivers, I would be very impressed.

  101. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Shame see my answer above.

    And expecting it doesn’t mean I rooted for it. Just that I wasn’t going to be surprised by it.

  102. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    YankeesSource does have a real baseball job.

    He sent me this in a DM: Work for an International Scouting Agency here in Japan along w. Taiwan/Korea. Primarily for Nippon Ham Fighters/Seibu Lions franchises.

  103. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    ac1

    Except he took a chance on losing Adams…

  104. Brian May 17th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Bobby Wilson was scratched from last night’s Scranton game before it started. He may be injured. I think only in that instance does JR get the call up, but doesn’t that present all kinds of other collateral administrative headaches, even aside from making room on the 40-man, which they have to do for Wilson anyway?
    ————

    They would need to clear a 40 man space for either Wilson or Murphy.

    But with Wilson, when Steward comes back, they just DFA Wilson. With Murphy, once he’s on the 40 man, he’s got to stay on it because otherwise someone will claim him. Even though he’d need to be added this winter, getting through the season w/o him on it takes away another decision as to who to dump as the injured guys who aren’t on the 40 man (on the 60 day dl) come back.

  105. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Ace1, Jobber for a low minors prospect not on the 40?
    ___

    I know we want something back for him, but yes.
    Teams need bullpen help (Tigers).
    It would be nice to get something back that we can have in the system, but at this point anything useful may help. We don’t need him anymore. Wellington Westerley the 11th has been doing excellent in Joba’s spot.

  106. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Brian -

    Yeah, they’re on borrowed time with all the 60-day DL guys…

  107. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Except he took a chance on losing Adams…
    ___

    That was what set many of us off.
    Thank god it worked out.
    Adams is a keeper.

    I wouldn’t risk this again……..

  108. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    I am thinking the fact we haven’t heard anything on Stewart indicates he is headed to the DL and Cashman is trying to figure out what to do next – maybe even looking at other teams back ups because I doubt he wants to have to bring up Wilson and his .174 AAA avg.

  109. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Ace1, but Jobber could profile as a closer for some GM by the time the deadline rolls around. He could have more significant value than a low minors prospect not on the 40. I’d rather do a 3 or 4-for-one deal. This way you are confronting the tough decisions that have to be made when possibly all of Cervelli, Jeter, Tex, Pineda and Arod return.

    Again, a logjam of talent on a 40-man roster is a perfect problem.

  110. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Shame see my answer above.

    And expecting it doesn’t mean I rooted for it. Just that I wasn’t going to be surprised by it.

    ———————-

    I too could say I’m not all that surprised by it but my opinion mostly comes from our inability to generate a lot of runs.. I’m just surprised anyone would expect to lose a series to the M’s when they just haven’t played very good ball this season so far.

  111. ac1 May 17th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Ace1, but Jobber could profile as a closer for some GM by the time the deadline rolls around. He could have more significant value than a low minors prospect not on the 40. I’d rather do a 3 or 4-for-one deal. This way you are confronting the tough decisions that have to be made when possibly all of Cervelli, Jeter, Tex, Pineda and Arod return.

    Again, a logjam of talent on a 40-man roster is a perfect problem.
    ___

    Agree on the log jam being a good problem. Disagree on the 3-1 or 4-1. You are counting on other teams taking Youkilis or Ichiro or something and it just is NOT gonna happen.

  112. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    At least we took the Colorado and KC series… now is a perfect time to face Toronto, IMO. We need to see pitchers that suck.

  113. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Shame, only because the first two pitchers in that series are two very very very good pitchers.

    I expected the games to be close. The Hughes came threw everything off.

  114. Mike in Harrisburg May 17th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    One way or the other I’m glad that we’ll presumably get to see more of Romine and maybe even Murphy the next couple weeks.

  115. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Ace1, no i’m not counting on teams taking Ichiro or Youkilis. I’m counting on Joba, Gardner and Hughes. That may seem like a hefty haul but Joba and Hughes are rentals and Gardner’s final contract year is next year. There must be a player of interest out there. Maybe an OF.

  116. jacksquat May 17th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    There are guys on the 40 that could be traded and I would not miss them much.

    Francisco can be just flat out released for starters.

  117. Hassey May 17th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    who would make this blog’s 40-man roster?

    Some days, I wouldn;t mind being released

  118. Jesus Bustero May 17th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    I was already released and I claimed myself off waivers.

  119. justinxdance27 May 17th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    i say we designate Francisco Rondon. He’s in Trenton and pitching horrible. I would take my chances and see if he passes waivers. That or just get rid of ben.

  120. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    A replay of that awesome catch last night by a fan in the stands lol:

    http://bustedcoverage.com/2013.....ball-grab/

  121. bruceb May 17th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    At least we took the Colorado and KC series… now is a perfect time to face Toronto, IMO. We need to see pitchers that suck.

    Toronto have won four in a row. They’ve scored 33 runs in their last three games. Their offense is better than ours (right now) by a country mile. They will be out for revenge after being swept 4-0 at the Stadium in April.

    We have an edge in starting pitching (although the Jays do have last year’s NL Cy Young winner going in game three) but I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we win the series.

  122. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Doreen – I thought we’d be able to get at their pen. :(

    We have 3 games coming up against Toronto and 4 games against the Mets in a couple weeks. We should take both those series (I really wouldn’t be satisfied with a split against the Mets), the Baltimore and Rays series should be a little tighter. As long as we take one or the other, I’ll be happy.

  123. Chip May 17th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    The Yankees know should they land Cano, his very large salary would increase the difficulty of getting the team payroll under $189 million next season, which would enable the Yankees to bypass the luxury tax and set them up for a possible rebate. Steinbrenner said the Yankees’ success in the first quarter of this season has strengthened his resolve that general manager Brian Cashman and Girardi could succeed with a reduced payroll.

    That makes no sense. First of all, for as good as Wells is playing he’s a) not cheap and b) certainly no lock to maintain this production.

    Yes, you can sign Cano and get under $189 million – but it means letting everyone else go: Hughes, Logan, Joba, Granderson, Youkilis, Rivera, Pettitte, Kuroda and possibly Jeter if he opts out of his deal.

  124. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    “Randy, you are mischaracterizing my opinion that Hernandez could pitch to anyone. That was more about Felix, and less about whoever it was catching him.”

    doreen -
    makes sense with those two starting. i see your point. i was just curious.

    i also am just trying to understand what you meant that anyone could catch felix and still win. i think you’re actually right . i remember going in to catch 5 innings in an exhibition game replacing our starter dave sax. dave had few strikeouts when he was in there. i had ten. now was i better? not even close, but i caught the good pitchers. my point is that most of the time even the bullpen catcher can cacth and it doesn’t matter. just catch the ball.

    yes a team could annihilate a catcher who couldn’t throw well, but they’re not going to annihilate a cacther who doesn’t frame as well. catchers that mash are just really valuable.

  125. The Genius Maker May 17th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    no one can figure out how the mariners took 2 of three from the yankees. it’s simple. the yankees are wrong on their evaluations. girardi is wrong on his evaluations of catchers. montero can catch and did.
    *******
    Randy you are correct that more of a commitment to younger players mixed (maybe 2 in the field and 1-2 pitchers) in with stars is the way the Yankees should be constructed. However, you are really embarrassing yourself with the Montero comments. First, Montero is not major league catching material, Gardner had a terrible jump, but is blazing and Montero threw form his knees but still took forever to get rid of the ball. the entire point of throwing form your knees is to get rid of the ball quicker…and your comment about arm strength, while it is not bad, I am 46 with a torn rotator cuff and I threw from my knees in the hole at SS and got a softball across the diamond, so let’s not get crazy. He is VERY weak behind the plate. Seattle beat the yanks because they have good pitching, Girardi was an idiot not to bunt and the Yanks have a ton of weak links in the lineup. Nix batting 2nd, Stewart/Romine, Ichiro represent 1/3 of the lineup and that is very weak

  126. Warning Track Power May 17th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Hello Everybody-Please place the blame on me for the previous 2 losses.
    I did not wear my Yankee jacket to work on Wed and Thurs. Of course the team lost.
    I decided to wear my Black Adidas jacket instead. I was very foolish.
    This morning I obviously have my Yankees jacket on. So I’m hoping to get the team back on track as of tonight.

    Thank You

  127. Chip May 17th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Hal goes on to say…”“I always believed it could work if the young players, as I’ve been saying all along, pan out and do their job,” Steinbrenner said of the payroll cut. “We still have [Michael] Pineda coming back, so we’ll see how he does. I think he’s going to do great. But the key is going to be the young players stepping up and really making contributions like they’re doing right now.”

    What young players? David Phelps, Preston Claiborne and Adam Warren are the only young players contributing to the Yankees right now.

    Austin Romine is picking splinters out of his rear and David Adams just got here.

    The Yankees are winning on the backs of expensive veterans in the lineup like Wells and Cano and expensive veteran pitchers like Kuroda, Andy, Rivera, Hughes and CC.

  128. Tackelberry May 17th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Yanks lost 2 of 3 to Seattle becuase, thats just baseball. Its a long season. You’re gonna have series like that where one ofn your pitchers gets knocked out early and your offense struggles. How do you explain Justi Verlander getting rocked for 8 runs last night in suhc a short outing?

  129. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    bruce – I really, really don’t like Toronto’s pitching. I think if there is any group of starters you’d like to face after not being able to generate much offense, it would be the Jays. I’m hoping we have our own little break out in this series.

  130. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Chip – The plus side on Wells is he’s only counting as like $2 or $2.4 million against the cap next year.

    Jeter won’t opt out after missing (at least) half the season, so we know what his cost will be.

    We can’t keep all of Hughes, Kuroda and Pettitte… I do wonder which they’ll target.

  131. Chip May 17th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    You’re gonna win some and you’re gonna lose some.

    Think of it this way, should they have done better against Noesi last night? Sure. But then again they had no business winning the first game of the series against Hernandez so it’s a wash.

    As for the middle game, well Hughes is Hughes. He threw a stinker in there as he is apt to do.

  132. mick May 17th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Nix batting 2nd, Stewart/Romine, Ichiro represent 1/3 of the lineup and that is very weak
    =============================
    Can anyone explain Girardis strategy last night of having Nix swing at a 3-1 pitch with 1 out and Cano on deck in the 9th?
    Tying Run on 3rd, ball 4 on way and he’s swinging?
    Give the take sign, dammit.

  133. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Gardner had a terrible jump

    ——————

    Totally disagree, GM. Gardner was half way to 2nd and 3rd before Wilhelmsen even released the ball!

  134. bruceb May 17th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Hope you’re right shame. We usually hit Buehrle and Dickey is not exactly repeating his Cy Young season. Trouble is I have very little confidence in our offense right now. If Cano and Wells both have an off night, we have no chance.

    Surely Hafner must be available tonight (even though we’re facing a lefty)? If he isn’t, then the injection failed to work and his shoulder inflammation is more serious than they first thought.

  135. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Chip May 17th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Hal goes on to say…”“I always believed it could work if the young players, as I’ve been saying all along, pan out and do their job,” Steinbrenner said of the payroll cut. “We still have [Michael] Pineda coming back, so we’ll see how he does. I think he’s going to do great. But the key is going to be the young players stepping up and really making contributions like they’re doing right now.”

    What young players? David Phelps, Preston Claiborne and Adam Warren are the only young players contributing to the Yankees right now.

    Austin Romine is picking splinters out of his rear and David Adams just got here.

    The Yankees are winning on the backs of expensive veterans in the lineup like Wells and Cano and expensive veteran pitchers like Kuroda, Andy, Rivera, Hughes and CC.

    ——————

    Now this, I totally agree with. When I read that I was trying to figure out who he was referencing. But notice he doesn’t actually mention anyone by name except Pineda lol… ALL the eggs are most definitely in the basket there.

  136. Warning Track Power May 17th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    mick May 17th, 2013 at 11:48 am
    Nix batting 2nd, Stewart/Romine, Ichiro represent 1/3 of the lineup and that is very weak
    =============================
    Can anyone explain Girardis strategy last night of having Nix swing at a 3-1 pitch with 1 out and Cano on deck in the 9th?
    Tying Run on 3rd, ball 4 on way and he’s swinging?
    Give the take sign, dammit.
    ———————————————————————————————————
    C’mon now, I think you are being very critical. Any major league hitter should have the freedom to hit the ball in that situation. A sac fly ties the game. Matter of fact, a blooper or a ball hit in the hole can tie the game.
    I would agree with a take sign on a 3-0 count.
    Not 3-1. That’s a perfect count for the hitter to swing and make contact.
    Unfortunately the Mariners pitcher threw the ball right by Nix.

    Also, if Jeter would have been in the line-up, odds are he makes contact and makes something happen.
    I like Nix and like the way he plays. Nobody is more upset about failing to get the run in than Nix.

  137. randy l. May 17th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    “However, you are really embarrassing yourself with the Montero comments.”

    genius maker-

    actually you are probably embarrassing yourself by acting like you know more than you know.
    you think you know more than wedge? is he embarrassing himself too?

    i respect the fact you were a good defensive catcher in college but the operative word is college.

  138. Chip May 17th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Shame Spencer May 17th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Chip – The plus side on Wells is he’s only counting as like $2 or $2.4 million against the cap next year.

    Jeter won’t opt out after missing (at least) half the season, so we know what his cost will be.

    We can’t keep all of Hughes, Kuroda and Pettitte… I do wonder which they’ll target.
    —————–

    I think it’s Cano and that’s it. Andy will probably retire (the injuries are starting to mount); and unless they come cheap – Kuroda, Granderson and Youkilis won’t fit under the budget. Hughes is too inconsistent to invest in long term. Logan and Joba are easily replaceable parts. Hafner is really the only other guy they might look at and he probably won’t fit since they’ll need to DH Alex.

  139. Warning Track Power May 17th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Shame-
    I was so excited when Gardner stole 2nd and then 3rd. That is the kind of play I want to see
    from the Yankees lead off hitter. Those two stolen bases show the value he has on the team.
    Obviously he needs to get on base before he can steal a bag, but you know what I mean.

  140. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Randy -

    Montero has to find a way to mash.

  141. Chip May 17th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    The Yankees aren’t the ones who evaluated Montero as a bad catcher. The rest of the baseball community was dumbfounded as to why the Yankees were trying so hard to keep an obviously bad catcher behind the plate when they should have been using his time in the minors to see if he could play any other positions.

    The Yankees saw Montero as an average catcher who had the bat to cover up those deficiencies but the philosophy shifted to looking for catchers who were better defensive players than offensive ones.

    As it turns out, Montero is neither a good defensive or offensive player at the moment and is quite likely to find himself in Tacoma sometime around July when Zunino is ready to come up to the big leagues.

  142. Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Chip-

    I agree and that was my reaction as well.

    I have been vocal about saying I don’t necessarily have an issue with the 189.

    But what Hal said just isn’t true. The pitchers, yes, have done well. Is that all he’s looking at? The pitching? Because the position players have all been vets, until now, with Romine and Adams going to see a lot more playing time. I mean, the first game against Seattle, they combined to get a run scored, but that hardly had anything to with the other 24 wins. Nunez is on the DL and has been hurt more than not this season (from the HBPs).

  143. Warning Track Power May 17th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Chip. Well said. Don’t you think that it appeared Montero was trying far too hard in the 3 game series?
    His throw to 2nd base last night was the poorest technique I can remember seeing. You just know the Yankees coaches and Pena were sharking their heads when they saw how Montero threw the ball towards 2nd base.

  144. Chip May 17th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Doreen May 17th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Chip-

    I agree and that was my reaction as well.

    I have been vocal about saying I don’t necessarily have an issue with the 189.

    But what Hal said just isn’t true. The pitchers, yes, have done well. Is that all he’s looking at? The pitching? Because the position players have all been vets, until now, with Romine and Adams going to see a lot more playing time. I mean, the first game against Seattle, they combined to get a run scored, but that hardly had anything to with the other 24 wins. Nunez is on the DL and has been hurt more than not this season (from the HBPs).
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    I don’t know what he’s looking at. My guess is that he is paying attention to wins and losses, knows that they’re filling up their roster with guys from the minors and assumes that they’ve been playing when the truth is that Girardi has no intention to play them.

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  146. Joe from Long Island May 17th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

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    I agree that, after signing cano to whatever it will take, to make the 189 work without jettisoning players who would be too expensive. however, i’m starting to think that the 189 is more of an ideal goal, rather than something written in concrete. because, hal has said – as recently as yesterday, per my morning newspaper, that the number one goal is fielding a “championship-caliber team”. also, there might be an unspoken drive to have name players, to sell the glamor, t-shirts, jerseys, etc.

    so, i think that is there is a perceived power shortage, than a granderson might be added on, in the chase for a competitive team in the al east.

    the rest of the players – joba, logan, youk, hafner, even hughes if he doesn’t shape up and become more consistent – would be a lot more expendable. and, andy with his more chronic aches and pains, and kuroda with his family considerations, might elect to call it a career, also.

    about montero – i agree with you, chip, that if he doesn’t pick it up, he’ll either be dealt, or in tacoma or wherever seattle has it’s aaa team. i really wonder if the yankees believed all along that he wouldn’t stick at catcher, but continued to keep him there to maximize his trade value, until they found a taker. thank you, jack z.

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    another easy fastball right down the middle.

    zunino is hitting.229 at tacoma which is an easy park to hit in.

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