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In praise of Yankees pitching

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 20, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC SabathiaThe Yankees will bring a 27-16 bottom line into Camden Yards for tonight’s opener of the three-game series against the Orioles. They will also bring a staff ERA of 3.53.

Coincidence? We think not. And tonight’s starter thinks not.

“We’ve been pitching great,” CC Sabathia said. “It’s fun to watch. We knew that coming into the year, for us to have a good year, it was going to depend on our pitching. And so far we’ve been pretty good. Hopefully we can keep that up.

“Our bullpen is the strongest point of our team, so we need to keep these guys fresh. The starters need to pitch better and go deeper into games and try to keep the guys fresh.”

Sabathia will take the mound at 4-3 with a 3.19 ERA through nine starts.

Here’s a link to my feature story today on the latest newcomer to this team, Reid Brignac, who was going to start at short yesterday before the game against the Blue Jays got rained out. And here’s a link to my notebook article with an item on the rainout’s impact on the rotation, plus updates on Mark Teixeira, Chris Stewart and Francisco Cervelli. Chad will be back with you later in the day.

Photo by The Associated Press.

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71 Responses to “In praise of Yankees pitching”

  1. blake May 20th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    I hope Adams plays today…. If he does then it shows that yesterday was just about a day off vs the knuckler

  2. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Yankees are 2nd in the AL in Pitching.

    They are only fractions behind Texas who is # 1.

    :)

  3. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Forget the “Bronx Bombers”.

    It’s now the “Bronx Pitchers”.

    ;)

  4. blake May 20th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    So morning question:

    Better hitter? Cabrera now or prime Pujols? Pujols’s best season by OPS + was 2008 with a 192. Cabrera is at 194 so far this season…..Albert’s peak was insane…..but it feels like Miggy is just now reaching his

  5. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    Blake-

    I’d take either one in their prime.

    :)

  6. blake May 20th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    MTU,

    Cheater :)

  7. blake May 20th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    I think Miggy is the best hitter in baseball but Votto gives him a run for his money…..though the ballparks have to factor in…..Votto is in a launching pad and Miggy plays in Detrot

  8. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    Blake-

    2 different types of hitters.

    Votto is an OB machine.

    Not nearly the power.

  9. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    But right now I’ll settle for Stanton.

    ;)

  10. 86w183 May 20th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    if my life is on the line I want Miggy at the plate. If I need a big inning I want Votto leading off.

    It’s like choosing between Filet Mignon and a Porterhouse at Peter Luger’s. You’re gonna love what you get and you are gonna pay plenty for it.

  11. blake May 20th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    “if my life is on the line I want Miggy at the plate. If I need a big inning I want Votto leading off.”

    If my life was on the line based on the outcome of a pitch then id want Stewie to frame it

  12. blake May 20th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Meanwhile ….Pujols has a .732 OPS in mid may

  13. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    And if I absolutely felt I needed a stellar Pitching performance I’d want Koufax in his prime.

    :)

  14. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    And Mo to close it out.

    ;)

  15. 86w183 May 20th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Heading out to the streets of the city… Central Park here I come!

    Good day to all, SeeYa !

  16. blake May 20th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Albert’s contract might end up making Alex’s look like a bargain

  17. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    And if I just have to have that catch to save the game.

    Give me Andruw in his prime.

  18. fantasygame101 May 20th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    brignac make sense for the Yankees bec. he is a left handed bat while nix is a righty. And with nunez history of coming back from injuries, nunez could be out longer than expected. Nunez could be in the minors for a long time if brignac can play better defense and hit.

  19. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    86-

    The City has changed so much.

    When I lived in NYC that would have been a dangerous affair.

    Enjoy.

    :)

  20. 4TrainNorth May 20th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    I remember seeing how confident and relaxed Miggy was during the 2003 postseason, and being scared as hell of him even then. Now he’s just an absolute monster. And who knows how many games he’s played besotted? To me, there’s no one who comes close in terms of fear factor.

  21. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Just checked Peter Luger’s site because I was curious if any of these world class steak houses account for feeding practices since some food production methods in the meat industry reduce the nutritional quality of the final product. Luger’s meat quality is determined by the USDA grading system. The USDA classifies the meat as “prime” which is the highest grade.

    That grading system has absolutely zero relationship with food production methods. Those cattle “from the Midwest” may be raised on diets supplemented with high levels of feed which is loaded with inflammatory omega-6 fats and other components that are contaminated with herbicides used on soybean and corn fields or insecticides that are injected into the DNA of plant cells in order to kill insects when they eat plants.

    If I were to open my own steak house, I too would use “prime” cuts, except I would pay more attention to food production methods. My cattle would be raised on organic fields of grass and 100% grass fed which is their natural diet. No feed. No pollutants. No toxins nor chemicals. Many of these toxins are bioaccumulative which means they concentrate up the food chain in animal cells (usually fat tissue). In humans, those toxins can damage DNA in cells and cause mutations in genetic sequences which lead to abnormal cell growth AKA c@ncer.

    Red meat is not bad for you, unless it has been introduced to these pollutants.

  22. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Buster-

    Many people believe that being a vegetarian is better for you than eating a full-spectrum, balanced diet.

    The laugher is that at least some studies show that vegetarians die younger on the avg. than their meat-eating counterparts.

    My view is that you want “life in your years” rather than “years in your life”.

    That is what counts to me.

    ;)

  23. mick May 20th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Randy Sez:
    did you see replay of the rocket montero hit today? line drive a few feet from top of wall from going out. some people said hardest single ever. kind of funny.
    =========================================
    So now Randy has taken to mocking himself?
    Twitter calls but who will follow?

  24. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    But I will live forever because I have extremely lengthy “Telomeres”.

    :)

  25. MTU May 20th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Time to walk the Mopheads.

    Later.

  26. mick May 20th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Miggy looks like Bonds of ’04.
    He had 120 IBB that year and some were with the bases loaded.

  27. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    MTU,

    I consider the Vegan/vegetarian diet one of the more dangerous diets out there, especially when it comes to pregnancy. The fatty vitamins (A, D, E, K) are essential to the liver and the liver is the control tower of the immune system. It’s also the gateway to all other cells in all other organs, regulating how many nutrients it keeps for itself and how many the rest of the body receives. A Vegan Diet is absent the fat soluble vitamins which leaves us immunocompromised. This is the main reason why Vegans and Vegetarians get sick all the time.

    But if you are a meat-eater, you have to eat responsibly. There’s a difference between the safety of wild Elk and deer versus feedlot cattle in Arizona, for example, or farm raised catfish from Tailand compared to wild Alaskan Salmon.

  28. Madrugador May 20th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Telomeres, I haven’t used that word in 30 years.
    But really, Arods contract is awful and Pujols is making his contract look pretty bad too.
    Cano is going to have a good year but given the nature of these huge contracts, can anyone afford them any more?

  29. Russell Munson May 20th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Farm-raised seafood is a scourge that should be abolished.

  30. 4TrainNorth May 20th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Can’t believe I never made it to Luger’s while I lived in NYC. One of my great regrets. Maybe one of these days we can leave the kids with the grandparents and do Luger’s and a game in the same weekend. A man can dream…

  31. Russell Munson May 20th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    That being said, I do think sustainability is important and people should try not to eat that which is not.

  32. comnsnse May 20th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Luis, saw your last post and await the email.

    It’s not a question of what you say or think only.

    You are a source of education and information about a subject I’m interested.

    At the risk of sounding clinical! ;)

  33. Grant May 20th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    On the baseball side of things… I can’t remember the last time it was so exciting to see so many new players for the Yanks playing, and doing well. I forget what it was like pulling for a Phelps or a Adams type to do well. I’m really liking all the young new faces for NY. We’ve had so many established vets for so long, it’s refreshing.

  34. Russell Munson May 20th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    It is great to get players that can fill out a roster from the organization. Not everyone from the farm needs to be a star to be a valuable contributor. You need those 21st-25th spots on the roster to be useful and not replacement level and it’s nice that the Yankees have been able to get some nice work from people like Adams, Claiborne, etc.,

    The other nice thing about it is when you have guys with options it’s almost like playing with a bigger roster. You can move guys like Marshall and Nuno and Claiborne up and down as needed.

  35. Chip May 20th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Russell Munson May 20th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    It is great to get players that can fill out a roster from the organization. Not everyone from the farm needs to be a star to be a valuable contributor. You need those 21st-25th spots on the roster to be useful and not replacement level and it’s nice that the Yankees have been able to get some nice work from people like Adams, Claiborne, etc.,

    The other nice thing about it is when you have guys with options it’s almost like playing with a bigger roster. You can move guys like Marshall and Nuno and Claiborne up and down as needed.
    ———————-

    That’s correct. However if your farm system doesn’t produce anything but solid role players then you’re still going to have to overspend to bring in core contributors.

  36. Chip May 20th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    For what it’s worth – there has been a lot made about the Yankees not drawing fans. Currently the average in terms of tickets sold is 37,000/game putting them in the top 10. Now, whether or not people are going to the games is a whole other question.

  37. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Mollusks farm raised in the United States are both sustainable and potentially safer than wild caught. The environment is more controlled thus ocean contaminants are reduced. Plus mollusks must subsist on zooplankton or else they die. If you try to feed them corn-based feed or soybean based feed or grains they die. So a farm raised mollusk is actually fed its natural diet which keeps the nutritional quality in tact. Unfortunately most of the farm raised mollusks come from Asia where the contamination levels in the oceans/waters/farms are sky high. But if you can get your hands on clams, oysters, scallops or mussels farm raised in the United States, eat away. You’re getting food that is healthy, safe and sustainable.

  38. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    so last night’s big complaint seems to have been that the 3rd string catcher wasnt getting enough playing time…till he started getting playing time….

    …tough times to be a constant complainer when ya gotta go backup to the backup catcher :)

    Let’s Go Yankees!

  39. champ809 May 20th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    What is encouraging to Hal, and rightfully so, is that given a chance the “kids” are showing that they are ready to step in and be contributors to a winning team. As of right now the Yanks need solid players to replace what they may lose next season because the core ” stars’ will still be here.

    They only “star” level players that will need to be replaced next year are Mo, Hiro, Grandy and maybe Andy.

    Pineda should be fully healthy and ready to step into that #2 role to replace Hiro as was the design when that regrettable trade was made.

    Phelps is proving that he can be replace Pettite in the ’14 rotation with his body of work so far.

    Wells is essentially Grandy’s replacement in that if he keeps this up he’d clearly be the starting LF’er on next years squad.

    Andy the Yanks most likely believe that the next closer they certainly have in house with Drob most likely getting 1st dibs.

    The core stars of Robbie ( who most def is re-signed ), Jeet, Arod and Tex will be back next year of course.

    They will also be encouraged by seasons end by the sheer depth and performance from the top tier prospects and tomorrow’s “stars” if you will playing in the Upper minors to feel comfortable to pursue the mandate of fielding a competitive winning team while at the same time bringing the payroll under the $189mm and developing an new generation of Yankee stars.

  40. randy l. May 20th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “So now Randy has taken to mocking himself?”

    mick-

    you like to talk smack when the yankees win a few.
    not so much when thy lose a few.
    can you do the calculus on what that makes you? :)

  41. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    “you like to talk smack when the yankees win a few”
    ————————————————–
    …so this is your new thing? people aren’t supposed to say anything good when they win?

    you accused me of only coming in here when they win the other day, despite the fact that i was on at the beginning of the game then had to work.

    like i said, ‘tough times for the constant complainers’

  42. mick May 20th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Fans want stars. This team plays on B’way.
    Forget about winning. That’s not the draw.
    People want entertainment. They want big names.
    If they were losing with this team, it would be even worse.
    If they were losing with big names the att. would be better than it is now.
    This is not as sophisticated a fan base as NY is made out to be.
    Lots of tourists and groupies in the crowd and of course drunks.
    The die-hard is dying out.

  43. comnsnse May 20th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Russell Munson, “farm raised seafood is a scourge’. Not only that but it’s also bad for you! ;)

    On a serious note it’s estimated that 80% of all seafood products come from overseas sources. How many government inspectors do you think are actually checking these goods?

    Our food sources should be carrying the same label warnings as tobacco and medications, for they indeed may be hazardous to your health!

    Some of my favorite dishes are with seafood like tonight’s dinned of shrimp marinara over thin spaghetti! I’ll have to chance it! ;)

  44. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    on any day that i’m at the park, it’s clear to me that a significant chunk of the audience couldn’t name more than 3 or 4 yankees, let alone any of the opposition.

    the girl sitting next to me the last game started asking where arod was around the 4th inning (boyfriend wasn’t sure)

    star power takes a significant ticket base (maybe 2.5M) and turns it into a 4M base.

    now with the 2 biggest stars out and in decline, (plus the newness of the stadium wearing off plus rangers and knicks playoffs competing) its not surprising at all that attendance is dipping.

    personally i greatly appreciate the extra space, i cant stand being packed in like sardines.

  45. comnsnse May 20th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Bustero, you’re dreaming if you believe domestic fish farms are free from contaminants and the antibiotics etc. that are found in most of the food we eat including fowl, pork and beef to name a few.

    The business plan is to fatten everything up and get it to market as quickly as possible to make the best profit.

    A concept which today is called “productivity”, which literally means higher profits.

    Again I ask how many certified government inspectors are there monitoring these products, in this case domestically?

    How about another common fallacy sold to the gullible public, inspectors monitoring gas stations for price gouging? Thousands of stations in many states with I’ll wager two dozen inspectors total in most. Tokenism!

    You may be able to obtain free range products etc. yes, but how many families today can afford it?

    Are you concerned?

  46. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    I specified “mollusks” not “fish” farms. If you try to feed mollusks anything other than their natural diet, they die.

  47. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I am not concerned for my family but for the planet, yes I am. I’m going to raise my own hens on their natural diet and supplement with flax seed. I’m going to provide all my own eggs. I will raise goats and provide all my own goat milk. I will farm rabbits (they reproduce quickly) and slow cook rabbit stew in a crock pot. I’m going to grow potatoes because their yield is high for the space they occupy on our land. An organic farm. I’m going to hunt deer and turkey and fish for trout.

  48. Doreen May 20th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Mick -

    Some of the longest running musicals on Broadway don’t have stars – they may have started with stars, or made stars out of nobodies, but the show itself becomes the main attraction and they keep on going without a star.

    Phantom is an obvious one.

    :)

  49. Doreen May 20th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Also, I’m not sure why die-hard fans would stop watching their team play, or stop attending the games. Die-Hard means they stick around through thick and thin, good times and bad.

    However, I can understand the frustration that exists because the average fan can’t afford the better seats to watch the team they’ve stuck with through thick and thin, and acting out on that frustration by preferring to watch the team in the comfort of their homes. That makes sense to me.

  50. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    hi dor, i think we’re facing off this week!

    i dont think most of those plays would make it through the first few months without having stars who draw new yorkers to the theater to start. then as time goes on, the stars leave, most new yorkers forget about the play but the tourists pour in for years to come.

  51. comnsnse May 20th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Bustero, you sound like a seafood elitist.

    Do you think the bulk of seafood consumed by the majority of citizens are mollusks?

    As for “natural diets” are you forgetting how contaminated and overfished our oceans etc. are.

    Check some stats on the amount of wastewater still be released into the oceans and the dying coral.

    Lastly, get a dvd called “Food Inc.” watch it once or twice then get back to me for further discussion.

    Have some farm raised Tilapia for dinner tonight like most of America, see if you can detect the sludge or antibiotics! ;)

  52. comnsnse May 20th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Buster, excellent intentions.

    Let me know when the first production cycle is complete and you have goodies for sale.

    I will visit and purchase…………………..with the usual senior and blog discounts! ;)

  53. comnsnse May 20th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Doreen, I remember the Phantom as a radio show in the 40′s.

    There was always a question asked of the radio host with the inevitable response.

    The Phantom knows!

    BTW, you do remember when radios were THE source of entertainment,yes? ;)

  54. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    you’re right id be better off is i hunted and fished my own food. im gonna do it!

    but im a little pressed for time, so i’m gonna sneak onto the aquafarm to fish for salmon then crash the deer farm and shoot bambis.

    best of both worlds, no?

    :)

  55. tomingeorgia May 20th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    comnsnse,
    It was “The Shadow knows” what evil lurks in the soul of man.

  56. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    U.S. mollusk farmers use filtration systems for the water which reduce the contamination load. They have to separate the zooplankton from the rest.

    I’m hardly a seafood elitist. I eat sardines 3x/day as my primary source of meat. Yes oceans are overfished but most people hate the taste of sardines. That’s why you can get a $1.00 meal that provides complete nutrition. Same with Cod liver oil. The therapeutic and preventive value is significantly high but you can get a month supply for $15 because people can’t stomach the taste. My rationale is my demand for the cod liver oil does not increase the rate of cod fishing. Consumption of cod fish is the catalysts there. The liver and its extracts are a waste product of sorts.

    Food Inc. I’ve watched it. Everyone should! My life mission is to develop nutrition education curriculum for public schools. I will have to start with the home schooling crowd and hopefully mainstream my lesson plans. We need to teach families how to navigate the very dangerous minefield that is our food supply and we need to empower them to take back their own health and teach their children how to protect and preserve their own personal health through life. If we heal our relationship with food, we help nurture Mother Earth. If anyone hasn’t noticed the abuse of the planet has caused it to suffer and now we are suffering. The health of the planet and our species are declining along the same trajectory. It’s no coincidence.

  57. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    good news tom!

    according to randy, you and i only come here when the yankees win!

    we play today, we win today, dassit!

    (sure wouldnt be much chance to comment if we only came when they lost!)

  58. Doreen May 20th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Y’s -

    Hope it’s a better contest for me than the one I just got through!! 2-8! Yikes!! :)

    Well, Phantom had Michael Crawford, who was not truly a “star” – he was a solid secondary performer whose career was on the downside when he got the part. (He was in the movie version of Hello Dolly, for one). Phantom made him a bona fide star, because people came in droves on the strength of his performance. Now it’s just a money machine, interchanging actors as time goes by.

    The Yankees could have a star in the making in one of these kids. Like Jeter and Mo were back in the day. LOL

    The Yankees are pretty self perpetuating – they are THE YANKEES after all, but I’ll agree it remains to be seen if they need a new star force to keep people coming, and most likely, they do. Yeah, it couldn’t hurt to have a star infusion… :)

    comnsnse – I am really not that old! I do remember black and white television with rabbit ears, though!

  59. Jerkface May 20th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    I will only eat seafood raised on a strict sea monkeys diet.

  60. tomingeorgia May 20th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Ys,
    I’m in and out of here all the time, wins or losses. Sometimes I just don’t have anything to say!

  61. randy l. May 20th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    “you accused me of only coming in here when they win the other day, despite the fact that i was on at the beginning of the game then had to work”

    ys guy-

    you do only show up when the team is winning. like i said before. i’ve know guys like you since i was 8 years old. fair weather yankee fans. jump on the bandwagon. disappear when times are tough.

    at least mick shows up a bit when things aren’t going his way. of course he shows up because he’s not that smart to know it’s a bad time :)

    i do get it that you run a business and business comes first, but don’t be afraid to show up when seattle takes two of three from te yankees or when montero busts loose.

    “montero busts loose.”

    for some reason that has a familiar ring to it. might be a good username if someone were so inclined :)

  62. CountryClub May 20th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    The good old days….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0QlGsgNLIg

    Pay attention to Benitez at the 2:02 mark. Strawberry finally gets close enough….

  63. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    randy, you are a joke. ive been coming here win or lose whenever i have the chance to for years and years.

    i run a restaurant, anyone who knows the buisness knowws that it eats your personal time for snacks.

    whether they win or lose has no effect on whether i come here or not and never has.

    even horace clark couldnt keep me away.

    and your whole premise about people coming here only when they win or lose really makes you sound foolish.

  64. Jesus Bustero May 20th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Losses attract trolls. I hold nothing against fans who disappear when the team is losing.

  65. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    good point! montero really is breaking out! 5 for his last 18 (no runs, no homers, 1 rbi) over the last nine games is really impressive and has boosted his avg all the way up to .210.

    of course he was benched for half of those games, too.

    word was you were really excited about his last ‘generational’ single!

    congrats!

  66. randy l. May 20th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    “and your whole premise about people coming here only when they win or lose really makes you sound foolish.”

    ys guy-

    you just keep telling yourself that.

    if you had half a brain, you’d realize i’m attacking the attack. you and mick started the crap about where i was after some yankee wins.

    i’ve just been giving it right back at ya buddy. :)

  67. pkyankfan69 May 20th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Our old friend Steady Freddy is on the mound for the O’s tonight… Hopefully the yanks will be patient and lay off his garbage out of the zone. As we all know from watching Garcia over the past few years, when hitters get in favorable counts and force him to throw strikes the results are UGLY (well beautiful now that he is on the opposition.)

  68. randy l. May 20th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    ys guy -

    i gotta get you that single.

    you’ ll love it.

    give me a few minutes :)

  69. Ys Guy May 20th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    randy if i mentioned you into the discussion about why comments were down when they win i was wrong and i apologize. you are stand-up about your beliefs. (as am i and as is mick)

  70. austinmac May 20th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Let’s not do a steady diet or bickering today, what do you say folks?

    Someone suggested cost savings by having Pineda replace Kuroda next year. Kuroda has been one of the top ten pitchers the last couple of years. He needs to return. Pettitte seems the more iffy one.

    We are still in the dark on Pineda. It is way too early to write him into the rotation. Could he have a minor league start first?

  71. randy l. May 20th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    “randy if i mentioned you into the discussion about why comments were down when they win i was wrong and i apologize. you are stand-up about your beliefs. (as am i and as is mick)”

    ys guy-

    i hate it when the “enemy” does a classy thing :)

    ok, maybe i fought back a little too hard.

    peace

    till next time :lol:

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