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Yankees finding stability in the bullpen

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 21, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi

The Orioles have one of the better closers in baseball, but last night they watched Jim Johnson blow a third consecutive save opportunity. Through most of baseball, it’s hard for a manager to walk to that mound, call in a reliever and feel absolute trust. But it must be hard for Joe Girardi to feel anything less these days.

In the month of May, the Yankees bullpen has pitched to a 1.66 ERA (10 earned runs, 54.1 innings). The relievers walked 13 and struck out 55. In the past 10 road games, they have a streak of 26.2 scoreless innings.

“It’s pretty basic for them to come in and make pitches and get people out,” Austin Romine said. “Right now, these guys are working real hard. They’re making pitches when they need to make pitches. We’re pitching smart, and good things are happening when you put the ball in the glove.”

If ever there were a time to appreciate Mariano Rivera, it’s surely after watching Johnson struggle, then watching Rivera pick up his 17th consecutive save. He continues to be that steady force in the ninth, a goal for every pitcher ahead of him just working to get the ball in his hands.

“It’s not normal what he does,” Vernon Wells said. “We’re just glad to have him on this team. We’ll continue giving him opportunities, he’ll continue slamming the door and we’ll shake hands after the game.”

Rivera said he feels strong. Despite the age, despite the workload, he feels sharp. And it shows. It’s hard to doubt him when he’s getting results like this.

And the rest of the bullpen seems to be falling in line ahead of him.

“I feel the same with my teammates; I feel the same with my manager,” Rivera said. “You have to feed off that, the confidence with anybody. He puts anybody there. Everybody has been doing the job and hopefully we’ll continue doing it. It makes the team feel great. … Everybody is pitching. That’s what it is. It’s not only about one player, it’s about 25 players and a bunch of guys in the bullpen that we have. Everybody is doing their job. It’s a nice thing and I enjoy every bit of it.”

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167 Responses to “Yankees finding stability in the bullpen”

  1. MG May 21st, 2013 at 8:54 am

    I was impressed with Romine behind the plate last night, he is very solid defensively, has a quick release and strong arm as well.

    The dugout is calling the game for him (you can see him looking over there on every pitch) so that is a non issue for now and eventually he won’t need that help.

    If he can hit at a level equivalent to Stewart/Cervelli he has a pretty good chance to become the regular catcher, he’s better back there than Cervelli.

  2. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 8:58 am

    I’ve said in the past that the Yankees have the best catching pipeline in baseball.

    I’ll stand by that.

    Cervelli, Romine, Sanchez, Murphy.

    That’s a lot of talent.

  3. 86w183 May 21st, 2013 at 9:00 am

    morning all —-

    The Yanks’ bullpen success and depth is going to give Cashman some options to get some desperate team to overpay with a good young bat in exchange for help in the pen.

    Once Cabral and Joba are good to go that’s two opportunities right there, plus Nova/Phelps. Not sure anyone will have better arms to offer up.

    I love Adams…. really looks the part and comfortable on the field. Also it seems like every time I’m ready to write off Ichiro he does something significant.

    And thru it all Ben Fran-WHIFF-sco still has a spot on the 25-man roster.

  4. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:03 am

    86-

    Don’t worry. Ronnier will displace Ben at some point IMO.

    I’m open to moving Joba and Logan too.

    I’d hang onto Nova and Phelps for now.

    I might move Nova if the price were right.

  5. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Morning all – great finish to the game last night. Can’t say the same for the comment section, but I’ll take the W!!

    ;)

  6. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:05 am

    “blake, how would you structure the roster if everyone, including Arod, gets back healthy after the All Star break?”

    It’s a really tough question. If Adams keeps playing well Id make him the 3rd baseman….. He’s better defensively than Youk and neither Alex or Youk needs to be playing there on a regular basis IMO.

    Id love to keep Overbay and Tex both and platoon them but realistically we all know that if and when Tex gets healthy he’s gonna play every day most likely so that really leaves Overbay without a role ….unless Pronk gets hurt.

    The Yanks have has to patch a bunch of holes with extra players and those extra players have done a great job…..but what do you do when the guys they are replacing come back? It’s a cross that bridge when you get there question…..but I hope they play the best 9 when that day comes…..if it means benching Arod or Youk or Tex then so be it

  7. Hassey May 21st, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Would the Orioles take Sabathia for Freddy Garcia and Nick Markakis?

  8. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 9:06 am

    MTU-

    The Yankees pitching staff is tied in 10th place in AL with the O’s in BAA. .255.
    7th in AL in Opponents OB% .313

    Is this worrisome, especially in these close, low scoring games?

  9. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Blake-

    I don’t forsee the Yankees using expensive players as bench pieces if they are healthy.

  10. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:08 am

    “I love Adams…. really looks the part and comfortable on the field. Also it seems like every time I’m ready to write off Ichiro he does something significant.”

    I really do too….it’s a small sample of course but he’s already made some plays at 3B that there is no way Youk makes and that sort of thing is significant regardless of size of sample IMO…..they need to give that kid enough time to see if he can be a long term answer .

    Re: Ichiro….he’s still been pretty bad….he cheated big time on a fastball last night and roped it but he needs to be more consistent or he simply shouldn’t play much when they have 3 better options

  11. 86w183 May 21st, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Blake —-

    I agree on Overbay/Hafner… that might be the toughest roster decision the Yanks have to make in the weeks ahead. Might come down to who’s healthy, who’s hot and/or who has another team willing to give up something of value for him.

    If Cleveland stays hot I could see trading Pronk back home for a LH reliever of young OF bat. You never know about such things. Certainly Claiborne and Kelly and perhaps Nuno have dramatically improved their trade/roster value.

  12. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:11 am

    YT-

    I don’t think so. especially since they have been winning.

    They have yet to lose a game when they score first.

    And they have an incredible record when they have the lead at any point in a game.

    The pins I’ve been sticking in those little dolls seems to be working.

    ;)

  13. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:12 am

    “I don’t forsee the Yankees using expensive players as bench pieces if they are healthy.”

    I think they may have to realize that their expensive pieces are broken down and may not be as good…..if Alex can actually ge healthy then he probably will produce enough to play but again IMO neither him or Youk needs to play 3B much going forward. Let Youk will still get a lot of ABs vs LHP and he can play 3B a game or so a week maybe. I’m not worried about Alex until he actually gets back …..he’s not even in my radar right now

  14. 86w183 May 21st, 2013 at 9:13 am

    I’m not concerned about BAA except as it relates to CC who has not had all three pitches working very often and has given up 21 hits in his last two starts.

  15. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:13 am

    I think Hafner is more likely to continue to hit all season than Overbay…..but he’s alsoore likely to get hurt too…..Id try to keep them both as long as possible as Tex’s injury could recur any time

  16. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Adams looks like Daniel Craig.

    I’ve code-named him “Skyfall”.

    Sorry Blake. You’ve lost your job.

    :(

  17. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Blake-

    I think they will make every effort to get their money’s worth out of those guys.

    Whether they can or will is another matter.

    ;)

  18. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:15 am

    If the Yanks are gonna operate on a budget then they need to let younger players play when they are as good as older players……

    Youk should be back soon and Id just tell him ….look we want to keep Adams at 3B primarily for now both because he’s looked good there and to help keep you healthy. Youk can play 1B vs LHP and when the matchups fit and be can play 3B a game or two a week…..and he can also be a nice pinch hit bat off the bench

  19. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:16 am

    “Adams looks like Daniel Craig.”

    That’s fine….like I said….I look more like Kevin Youkilis

  20. 86w183 May 21st, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Heading out onto the streets of the city. Gorgeous day in Manhattan…. have a day all, later!

  21. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Blake-

    Even if I agree w you. You know that’s not been the way the Yankees have done things.

    I’d be surprised if they start now.

  22. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:19 am

    MTU .

    I think they are becoming a little more trusting of youngsters ….or at least they should be

  23. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Time for the most important meal of the day.

    Please excuse me while I partake.

  24. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 9:19 am

    I’ll pose a question?

    It’s July 26th. The Yankees are still in the hunt. Tex is back on the DL, and Jeter is not going to come back until September at the earliest. Granderson is not hitting.

    Hughes is still inconsistent. Nova has figured it out and is pitching well. Ditto Phelps. Pineda is blowing them away in AAA and has a 3rd quality pitch.

    The Yankees need a bat-preferably a right handed bat.

    The starting pitching rotation for the finishing weeks is shaping up as;
    Kuroda
    Sabathia
    Pettitte
    2 of Nova/Phelps/Pineda

    Are you offering up Hughes for a bat or putting him in pen and offering up your other FA, Joba?

  25. MG May 21st, 2013 at 9:19 am

    blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:05 am
    .but I hope they play the best 9 when that day comes…..if it means benching Arod or Youk or Tex then so be it
    ———————–
    that’s what I want, the best 9 in the lineup regardless of contract.

    If that is what they do they’ve got a good chance at winning it this year, next year is next year…

  26. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Would they ever DFA Youk?

  27. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    May 21, 2013 at 9:20 am
    Would they ever DFA Youk?

    If healthy they probably could trade him to somebody if Alex did come back healthy

  28. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Trader – If you can get a bat for Hughes, go for it… but it’s gotta be a legit bat. I honestly don’t know what Hughes brings back at this point. Joba brings back basically nothing, IMO.

  29. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2013 at 9:22 am

    blake – Big if. What’s the latest update on Youk anyway..?

  30. Tackelberry May 21st, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Was a little surprised Buck went with Johnson last night instead of Matusz in the 9th considering Johnson’s struggles lately, and with 3 lefties coming up. Lets not forget this is the same Buck Showalter who refused to go to John Wettland in game 5 in Seattle to try and close that series out after the Yanks too the lead in extra innings and went with Jack McDowell instead due to Wettland’s struggles in that series.

  31. ac1 May 21st, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Right now re: Francisco.
    Tex is the next offensive player to return it seems.
    I would hold onto Overbay and DFA Francisco.
    We do NOT need Francisco and Nix can play OF as the 5th OF.
    Overbay has been valuable and Tex could re-injure himself.
    Overbay should stay for now.
    I dont know what happens as the rest of the wounded start trickling back in.

    I agree about DFA ing Youkilis however it won’t happen (especially since Adams has a tendency to get hurt).

  32. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    May 21, 2013 at 9:22 am
    blake – Big if. What’s the latest update on Youk anyway..?

    I think they said he was getting closer…..I’m not sure when his ETA is though

  33. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Youk should help them offensively when he gets back….I just don’t think he should play 3B anymore

  34. MG May 21st, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I know Adams has looked very good so far but let’s give him one time through the league before assuming he’s the everyday 3rd baseman.

    Major league pitchers adjust to rookies over time and Adams will have to make similar adjustments.

    He’s done an excellent job so far and hopefully it continues but major league history is littered with rookies who made great first impressions and didn’t stick long term. How many of us thought Brett Lawrie would be hitting below the Mendoza line now when he came up and absolutely killed it two years ago?

  35. Tackelberry May 21st, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Missed a good portion of the game. Curious, how did Brignac look at SS and at the plate?

  36. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Blake-

    I think they still play rookies out of neccessity only. Only because of injuries.

    If they have Vet available that’s what they generally prefer.

    IMO that hasn’t changed though I’d welcome it.

  37. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:35 am

    “I know Adams has looked very good so far but let’s give him one time through the league before assuming he’s the everyday 3rd baseman.”

    He’s i agree but they need to give him that chance to see what he is….if they just send him back down when Youk comes back then they’ll never know

  38. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Good article on Hafner’s in game routine…

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....hare_tweet

  39. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:37 am

    I always favored Youkilis at 1st and Musty at 3rd.

    Since Adams seems solid I’m just as happy w Youk at 1st and Adams at the hot corner.

    If Musty could get enough AB’s I’d like to see him displace Francisco.

  40. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Adams has a good chance to stick around (at least through the All Star break) because they need his RH bat. I’m not sure he’s going to play 3rd every day when Youk comes back….but who knows. If he’s still hot, it’ll be tough to sit him down.

  41. MG May 21st, 2013 at 9:37 am

    blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:35 am
    “I know Adams has looked very good so far but let’s give him one time through the league before assuming he’s the everyday 3rd baseman.”

    He’s i agree but they need to give him that chance to see what he is….if they just send him back down when Youk comes back then they’ll never know
    ——————————–
    agree 100% and I think they will give him that shot.

    I can see them platooning Youk at 1B against lefties for awhile until Teix gets back, maybe he then is mostly a DH with occasional games in the field.

  42. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 9:39 am

    It’s About the Money-on First Impressions of Adams and Romine

    “My first impression of his offensive game was a good one after watching him hit a home run on the second pitch of his first AB. Any time you see a young player track an offspeed pitch like that and wait on it to square it up, that’s a good sign. I do think Adams’ swing is a bit long right now, and I think once pitchers start to get a book on him he’ll get in trouble a bit with that due to his pre-swing movement, but there’s real pop in his bat. When he makes contact he gets his money’s worth, and as he gets more experience and starts to smooth out his swing mechanics I think he’s going to hit just fine at this level.”

    “Romine didn’t impress me at all at the plate. His batting stance and swing both look very stiff and robotic and it didn’t look to me like he was getting much drive from his lower half. And the swing itself was long and slooooooow, like really slow. Romine’s not clueless up there, he knows what he’s doing and doesn’t seem strategically overmatched by Major League pitching. I just don’t see how he’s going to consistently hit for average or much power with a swing like that. It needs to be shorter and quicker or he’s going to get blown away.”

    Attached article for rest of comments on their defense.

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....nd-romine/

  43. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:40 am

    They paid a lot of Money for Youkilis.

    If he’s healthy I don’t see them turning him into a PT player.

    It would be interesting if they went that route but I’m skeptical. As always.

    ;)

  44. MG May 21st, 2013 at 9:40 am

    MTU, if Teix gets back I don’t think Musty gets a shot because they need a spot for Overbay more than they need a 5th outfielder

    Musty isn’t a good enough outfielder to fit into a 4 outfielder rotation, they don’t really need anyone else.

    This could change if they make a trade, of course.

    It’s a numbers game, he got hurt at the wrong time…

  45. blake May 21st, 2013 at 9:41 am

    “Adams has a good chance to stick around (at least through the All Star break) because they need his RH bat. I’m not sure he’s going to play 3rd every day when Youk comes back….but who knows. If he’s still hot, it’ll be tough to sit him down.”

    Especially since Youk is pretty bad defensively

  46. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Since Adams seems solid I’m just as happy w Youk at 1st and Adams at the hot corner.

    If Musty could get enough AB’s I’d like to see him displace Francisco.

    ———————-

    That’s exactly what they’ll do vs a lefty.

    As far as Musty, I don’t think he’s coming up anytime soon. I think Francisco will be gone once Youk comes back (supposedly in a week or two).

  47. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:42 am

    YT-

    Long is the perfect hitting instructor for shortening swings.

    ;)

  48. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 9:44 am

    If Musty could get enough AB’s I’d like to see him displace Francisco.
    ——————————

    MTU-

    Mustelier didn’t even play last night in a SWB 10 inning loss. Thomas Neal is continuing to hit, after his stint on the DL. BA .323, 2 for 5 yesterday with 3 RBI’s.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Neal gets first crack at replacing Francisco.

  49. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:45 am

    CC-

    I only wish to see Ronnier if he will get sufficient AB’s and playing time.

    If not, I’d prefer he stay sharp at AAA.

    I don’t think it does young players any good to get splinters in their butts.

    They need to play.

  50. mick May 21st, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Girardi just plays it one day at a time.
    He isn’t speculating, why should we?
    The key ingredient in this teams development has been injuries and
    that’s what he means when he says “things will work themselves out.”
    It makes my hair hurt to hear the same thing everyday about what they are gonna do when this or that happens.
    One thing about an older team, they will get hurt.
    Luckily we do have depth in the Minors.
    It’s a great environment. Low expectations, low pressure is better for everybody esp. the youth.

  51. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Romine is going to be a career backup and there’s nothing wrong with that. Especially if Murphy or Sanchez turn into what we hope they will.

  52. pat May 21st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Catching up on my twitter news that I didn’t get a chance to read last week and came across this gem from NY Daily News Sports Dept……..

    What will Alex Rodriguez, other PED-using athletes have to say about Rod Stewart’s recent steroid confession? http://soa.li/ivXxQ4C

    “The rock icon acknowledged in a recent interview with Mojo that he became addicted to steroids during the 1980s – and the drug abuse shrank the notorious lady killer’s private part.

    Alex Rodriguez, are you paying attention?

    “I let myself down on tours in the late ‘80s when I was addicted to steroids. In those days we didn’t have in-ear monitors and the band kept getting louder and drunker, and I kept blowing my voice out,” Stewart said.”

    I can believe Stewart being stupid enough to possibly believe that but the crack “i team” from the NY Daily News is trolling because they have to know corticosteroids used to reduce voice inflammation are different than anabolic steroids with all the steroid stories they’ve written the past 10 years.

  53. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    YT-

    You are probably right.

    I just think Mr. Mustelier has significant ability and at some point I hope the Yankees tap into it.

    ;)

  54. mick May 21st, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Musty will be hear when he is needed.
    Just like Adams, Nuno, Warren, Romine, Phelps and Claiborne.

  55. mick May 21st, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Did I just say hear?

  56. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Mark Simon ?@msimonespn 11m The Yankees have outscored their opponents 62-37 from the 7th inning on. Their margin is 2 runs (128-126) in the first 6 innings

  57. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 9:53 am

    The problem is just holding a roster spot for Overbay doesn’t help the offense. They’re going to play Tex. They’re going to give him 2 full months of more of slumping before discussing doing anything.

    If Overbay’s not playing he’s not helping.

    Just think about this, we’ll be trading a .900 OPS 1b against RHP for a .700 OPS 1b willingly because of a guaranteed contract. There will be repercussions as intentionally downgrading the offense at a corner position against 2/3rds of the league’s pitching will hurt you. Especially, when the manager is just going to blindly plug Tex into the 4 hole most likely.

    Wishing and hoping Tex is the player he was prior to 2010 is folly. Right now we have an above average 1b who needs to play against RHP.

    If the bubble’s going to burst on this season, it’s when Tex returns and Overbay sits or is traded/waived.

    You can see it coming from a mile away.

    Cashman and Girardi want to prove they’ve learned something and want my vote for exec/manager of the year? When Tex comes back, platoon him with Overbay. Use the wrist as an excuses and say “we’re just happy to have him against LHP considering the health of his wrist” and privately tell him you don’t hit as well as Lyle does against RHP and we’re here to win a title for Mo, not massage your massive ego.

    They could do this.

    But they won’t.

  58. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Fan poll :

    Who here thinks the Yankees are a true “Meritocracy” ?

    Curious minds wish to know.

    :)

  59. mick May 21st, 2013 at 9:56 am

    @BNightengale: Miguel Cabrera, the greatest player since Barry Bonds,share same trait of greatness. #Tigers #SFGiants http://t.co/j88nez6mdS via @USATODAY
    =====================================================
    Any other comparisons he’d like to make?
    Like how Bonds last 4-5 years of steroid induced playing effected his greatness…

  60. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 9:56 am

    G. Love-

    I’m afraid I have to agree that the odds favor your position.

    We’ll see.

  61. pat May 21st, 2013 at 9:56 am

    I’ve read too many articles about how they are going to have too much pitching too many times and then watched the DL take care of that problem to get caught up in too many infielders now.

  62. JobaTipsHisCap May 21st, 2013 at 9:58 am

    yes, Yankee bullpen always make pitches and get people out, except Joba.

  63. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:00 am

    G Love-
    I hope you are so wrong and this is what I think they do:
    Tex is chomping at the bit to get back for some reason.
    They will ease him back in slowly.
    They cannot afford to lose Overbay and they won’t.
    Girardi is the “Rest Master.” He can do it…..
    “Things will work themselves out.”

  64. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:01 am

    I don’t like Fate sorting out my affairs even though to some extent that’s just the way it is.

    For me at least, I like trying to be proactive. And pretending that I have free will.

    For some in life, no decision is a decision.

    I just don’t operate that way on a conscious level.

  65. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Definition of MERITOCRACY
    1: a system in which the talented are chosen and moved ahead on the basis of their achievement
    2: leadership selected on the basis of intellectual criteria

    On Definition #1- NO

    On Definition #2- YES-Girardi

    :)

    Conundrum?

  66. blake May 21st, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Cashman and Girardi want to prove they’ve learned something and want my vote for exec/manager of the year? When Tex comes back, platoon him with Overbay. Use the wrist as an excuses and say “we’re just happy to have him against LHP considering the health of his wrist” and privately tell him you don’t hit as well as Lyle does against RHP and we’re here to win a title for Mo, not massage your massive ego.”

    Never happen but Id love

  67. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:03 am

    I don’t like Fate sorting out my affairs even though to some extent that’s just the way it is.
    ===========================
    Maybe that’s why you are not GM or Mgr of the Yankees ;)

  68. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:04 am

    YT-

    I was referring to the first connotation.

    That was the thrust of my question.

  69. pat May 21st, 2013 at 10:05 am

    DanBarbarisi
    A day in the lonely life of Travis Hafner, the baseball player without a clique http://on.wsj.com/17W5elT

  70. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:07 am

    MTU-

    I knew that. :)

    The answer is a big fat NO.

  71. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:07 am

    I’d like to know the insurance situation on Tex.
    Once he plays his 1st game, does it stop?
    Thought someone said Yanks still get paid or something of that nature.

  72. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:08 am

    mick-

    Absolutely.

    I’m content to just be a fan with my often incorrect opinions.

    I try to act as a reverse barometer around here.

    All the Yankees need do to be successful is do the opposite of what I say.

    In that regard, I hope I perform a valuable service around here.

    ;)

  73. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Overbay is hot right now, so I look like the wet blanket, but people are going overboard with what they think he’ll do moving forward. Teix is a better player (if he’s truly healthy).

  74. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:11 am

    I barely funcntion as as a hiker and photographer.

    I’m too busy to Manage the Yankees. Or be GM.

    And my fees would be exorbitant.

    I think Blake would be excellent in that role.

    I nominate him.

    :)

  75. Madrugador May 21st, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Ok, so Tex should be the next to come off the DL. He has shown he can’t hit RHP and that it takes him two months to get his bat going. The current Overbay is no where near Tex in his prime but Tex is no longer in his prime. Overbay should remain on this team but what really happens to him when Tex returns?

  76. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I might be good filling in for Cashman on the rappelling portion of his job.

    ;)

  77. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:14 am

    To his teammates, Hafner is something between assassin and cave troll—emerging from the shadows when needed to do his job.
    ================================
    I used the same word-assassin-last night in describing Hafner.

  78. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I think the best thing to say about Adams is that he looks like he’s comfortable here. There’s no deer in headlights from him. He just keeps doing what he did throughout the minors and that’s hit. Still, once Youk and Tex are both healthy, I think Adams will head back to Scranton.

    When Cabral comes back, given the other left handed options the Yankees have, I would absolutely look to trade Boone Logan. The Braves for one are a team that knows Boone and have a desperate need for left handed relief.

    I was dead wrong to this point about Ichiro. I thought he was going to have a bounce back year and put up big numbers.

    On the other hand, I will drop an “I told you so” as having long been and advocate of trying to pick up Vernon Wells on the cheap. Clearly I didn’t expect him to put up All-Star numbers like he’s doing, but I thought he could be a useful spare part. The fact is that right now Vernon Wells is playing better than Josh Hamilton, Matt Kemp and many other big time outfielders. Can he keep it up? I don’t know. But I don’t see how you can take him out of the lineup right now. He’s been great and represents the only right handed bat in the lineup (though Adams has looked good)

    Pronk is another story. He’s also looked great for the team but like Eric Chavez, Girardi is going to have to manage Pronk’s body as much as his production. Maybe once Youk comes back, assuming Adams is still producing, Girardi can rotate Youkilis through 1b and DH with Overbay and Hafner to keep all three of those guys fresh.

    I’m really starting to wonder if we’re going to see Derek Jeter at all this year.

  79. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Pronk is from N. Dakota.

    Everyone is lonely up there.

    :)

  80. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Country Club,

    You’re basing that evaluation off of who Tex was prior to 2010. He doesn’t hit well from the left side of the plate against RHP. He pads stats in blowouts and most of the time is an automatic out whereas Overbay is a real hitter.

    I’m not normally a stats person, but watching the team up close for the past few years I always felt like Tex did nothing except in blowouts and especially against RHP.

    When I looked the numbers they’re staggering.

    He’s not getting better from the left side. He’s getting worse every season. When you place that kind of below average hitter in the middle of your lineup 2/3rds of the games, you struggle. We don’t have the depth in the lineup that we did with Jeter, Swisher, Arod, Martin, Ibanez/Chavez to cover for this.

    The numbers tell you the story on Tex. We’re getting the same quality D and a better hitting performance from Overbay against RHP thus far than Tex has ever given us from that side.

  81. Mike Ri May 21st, 2013 at 10:17 am

    MTU

    Pronk is from N. Dakota.

    Everyone is lonely up there.

    ———–
    LOL LOL

  82. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:17 am

    mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:07 am

    I’d like to know the insurance situation on Tex.
    Once he plays his 1st game, does it stop?
    Thought someone said Yanks still get paid or something of that nature.
    —————–

    Because Tex was hurt while on the Team USA Roster, the WBC pays his salary until he comes off the DL.

    Should he come off the DL and have to go back on for the same injury, the WBC resumes paying his salary.

  83. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:18 am

    G.Love,

    They aren’t going to turn Tex into a platoon player against LHP.

  84. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:19 am

    G. Love-

    Tex still has big-hairiness from the Left side.

    Cashman likes that.

  85. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I’ll pose this question?

    Tex needs surgery. ARod gets suspended. Jeter won’t be back until next season.
    The Yankees have no intention of giving a qualifying offer to Hughes, Granderson, Joba, or Logan. Cano is resigned. Hal plans to stay within CBA budget for 2014.

    Every team is still in the hunt for a playoff spot except the Astros, as the Jays have turned ther season around.

    MTU-

    Are you proactive, and try to see what you can get by trading away your FA’s, ones you have no designs of keeping?

    Thoughts?

  86. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Tex is distracted.
    He saw that short porch and his entire approach to hitting changed.
    Reminds me of Giambi.
    By distracted I also include his various PR/business ventures highlighted by his constant tweeting, which just seem like infomercials.

  87. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Thanks Chip.

  88. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 10:21 am

    If Cashman truly likes a .770 OPS 1b for 2/3rds of the games his team plays, he should lose his job.

    Tex’s last 3 seasons against RHP were all in the high .700′s OPS wise.

    When Jeter’s OPS was dipping down in that area people wanted him to retire.

  89. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Trader -

    Why wouldn’t the Yankees give QO’s to Hughes or Granderson? Neither one would accept them.

  90. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:23 am

    YT-

    I am always in favor of maximizing the use of resources.

    So, to give a general answer, if there are players who can be moved w/o harming the production of the Team, and who give a decent return, I am all for it.

    :)

  91. Jesus Bustero May 21st, 2013 at 10:24 am

    G. Love’s scenario makes me cringe.

  92. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Chip-

    Both those players would bring back more than a draft pick in trade.

    Of course, that is not happening so it’s a moot point.

  93. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 10:25 am

    In 2009 Tex hit .280 against RHP and had a .950 OPS.

    Then that player disappeared like a ghost. Either he quit taking his “vitamins” or he stopped caring.

    He dropped like a stone since then.

    At least we got one elite season for 180 million.

  94. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:27 am

    G Love-

    Your analysis of Tex is perfect. Given that he has abandoned any ideas of trying to hit to the opposite field from the left side, and has publicly said so, and now with an injured right wrist tendon sheath, even if he does make it back, I don’t see him hitting for average, especially against the shift , and even his power might be sapped from that side.

  95. JCPD May 21st, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Hey MTU, I lived in Fargo for six years. It may have been cold, but it wasn’t lonely. ;-)

  96. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:29 am

    G Love-You have got to stop worrying man.
    Enjoy this ride before it ends.
    Sit back and relax and see what’s happening.
    I am going to see Iceman, the story of Travis Hafner, assassin for hire.

  97. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 21st, 2013 at 10:30 am

    “Those are the ones we act like little kids in the dugout.” – Vernon Wells

    One big difference I see in this Yankee team that I don’t remember seeing in the Yanks for a long while is that they are having fun, and they seem excited to win every game they win. They act like professionals but they are enjoying the hell out of themselves. They haven’t yet assimilated the button-down, all-business, “losing is unacceptable” attitude that has pervaded the New York Yankees for the longest time.

    Personally, I don’t look forward to having that attitude return. Love Grandy, but he’s part of that tight attitude and you can see it when he plays. I hope that he’s infected with the lighter way of life before other of the regulars return.

  98. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:30 am

    G. Love-

    I think most, if not all, of us are surprised by what has happened to Texeira’s BA from the left side.

    Mick made a good point. Like many power guys he was seduced by the short porch.

    In addition, Blake made good points in the past about the delicacy of of the timing in his Left-sided swing.

    It is extremely dependent on his bat speed.

    When that diminishes w his type of swing their are huge problems.

  99. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Teix is absolutely in decline vs righties. But his decline is still better than Overbay.

    Overybay’s OPS vs righties in 2011 was .658. In 2012 it was .750. In the same years, Teix was .778 & .769.

    I’m enjoying this hot streak just like everyone else. But the likelihood of it lasting is very slim.

  100. pat May 21st, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “Cashman conceded there’s enough concern about Overbay’s durability — with Kevin Youkilis (lumbar spine strain) still on the DL — that the team has discussed trying outfielder Brennan Boesch, who has never played first base professionally, at the position at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....HFze5mED7M

  101. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:33 am

    G. Love,

    It isn’t a matter of like or dislike, it’s a matter of using your resources. Assume for a minute that Alex, Youkilis, Tex are all back healthy.

    The solution you propose would likely have two of those three on the bench with Ichiro and Chris Stewart against right handed pitchers.

    It’s one thing to have that much money on the DL, it’s another thing entirely to have that much money healthy and warming the bench.

    More importantly though, let’s not fall in love with Lyle Overbay. It’s true, he’s done everything the Yankees have asked him to do and then some since they picked him up. But there’s also a reason why he was available at the end of spring training. Why he has been a journeyman throughout his career.

    If and when Tex gets back he will play. Girardi will get everyone in the lineup, the question is whether or not Overbay still has a spot on the 25 or if they use this solid first half of production to turn him from a bonus into a young player that they need.

  102. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Jim-

    Good to see you round Man.

    W as scarce as you’ve been I would have thought you had returned.

    I guess I miscalculated on the need to generate heat.

    Thanks for correcting me.

    Great place to be a snowblower salesman.

    Not for me amigo. I like hot, sunny weather.

    Hope all is well.

    :)

  103. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:35 am

    MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Chip-

    Both those players would bring back more than a draft pick in trade.

    Of course, that is not happening so it’s a moot point.
    —————–

    Correct, it’s not happening and yet both of those players could bring back more than a draft pick. But I would still think the Yankees will offer them, Kuroda and Cano QOs at the end of the year.

  104. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Chip-

    If the QO is around 15M, and Hughes is still inconsistent, he might just take the QO and put himself on the market after next season, although the group of FA starters after this season is weak, consisting of players like Haren, Vargas, etc.

    If Hal plans on staying under the 189M, after resigning Cano, all bets are off.

  105. jacksquat May 21st, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Hafner is a cave troll, perfect.

  106. longtimefan May 21st, 2013 at 10:36 am

    A lot of good things happened for the yanks last night, watching Johnson, a great pitcher in his own right but no where near Mo’s class, makes you appreciate what Mo has meant to this team, his is in a league all his own.
    Changing gears, I really like what I see in Adams, hope the yankess have enough sense to keep him on board, he just looks like a ball player, maybe will never be a super-star but no doubt can play in the majors he and Romine look like they belong

  107. CompassRosy May 21st, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 8:47 am
    Good morning-

    4 solo homeruns. Do the Yankees now lead the league in solo homeruns?

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    YT ~

    They are second in the majors in the category . . . http://tinyurl.com/kmqw54j

    Rangers 38
    Yanks 36
    Mariners 34

  108. Jesus Bustero May 21st, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Teixeira needs to bat Twitter against righties.

  109. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Chris Cotillo ?@TradeDeadliner 6m #Yankees Alberto Gonzalez cleared waivers and the team outrighted him to AAA. Not sure if he will accept or refuse assignment

  110. Chip May 21st, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Chip-

    If the QO is around 15M, and Hughes is still inconsistent, he might just take the QO and put himself on the market after next season, although the group of FA starters after this season is weak, consisting of players like Haren, Vargas, etc.

    If Hal plans on staying under the 189M, after resigning Cano, all bets are off.
    —————

    Look at the deals that Edwin Jackson and Jeremy Guthrie got last year. Both pitchers are considerably worse than Hughes. Phil’s 27, some team is going to make him at least a 4 year offer in the range of $12/year.

  111. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Chip-

    If the QO is appropriate they absolutely should do them.

    Personally, I think there’s a fair chance they bring Hughes back.

  112. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 10:40 am

    I don’t know, I look at this upcoming roster shuffle and return of Tex as a turning point. I’m hoping I’m wrong and it doesn’t cause us to sputter, but he’s been a large part of why this team struggles in the post season. During the regular season, these flaws get masked. Just like with the Knicks. They can win in the regular season with a flawed group that was deep, but when crunch time comes they are who their numbers say they are. Tex’s numbers say he’s a bad offensive 1b against RHP and not getting better.

    What I think will happen is Tex will come back, they’ll keep Overbay on the roster for a week and then they’ll trade him/waive him.

    Because if mashes into the shift or pops up weakly to the left side with runners on and Overbay’s sitting on the bench? The fans will go nuts and start chanting for Overbay.

    And yes, I know Overbay is playing above his head right now, but sometimes a guy has a season for the ages. What’d they say in Bull Durham? You don’t mess with the streak?

    That’s what worries me.

  113. Jesus Bustero May 21st, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Maybe we could trade Tex and Gardner to ATL for BJ Upton.

  114. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 21st, 2013 at 10:43 am

    I don’t believe for a minute that if Overbey is still producing he sits and Tex is the man. Not for a minute. Granderson has already sat a game. Girardi is doing a masterful job of mix and match and making sure the productive guys get to play. He’s out there to win games, not to keep a productive player down at the expense of an unproductive one. Now if Tex comes back and is a hitting machine, well then maybe that bet is off. But the good news, if you will, is that isn’t going to happen. I think we all know it.

    UP WITH THE YANKEE MIX AND MATCH TEAM!!!

  115. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:44 am

    What you have here is a failure to communicate.

    No really…..what we have here is a group of vets who were left for dead combined with a bunch of rookies. ALL OF THEM ARE HUNGRY.

    What we don’t have are complacent superstars who have gotten paid.

    BTW, Cano still qualifies for Group 1 even tho he was never left for dead or a rookie.

  116. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2013 at 10:44 am

    G.Love – I’m still convinced if Tex returns at all that he won’t re-injure himself and need surgery. I really don’t see him coming back this year. I’m more concerned about what time tables might exist for Youk, Jeter and Alex. If people thought having Overbay could make them forget Tex, having a nice little Youk/Overbay tandem would really push him out of their minds.

  117. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 10:47 am

    The bottom line is that Teix is probabaly a month away from playing for the yanks. A lot can happen in a month. Hopefully he doesn’t have any setbacks and hopefully Overbay keeps hitting. Those would be good “problems” to have.

  118. bruceb May 21st, 2013 at 10:47 am

    No point in worrying about the future. In baseball, you can only worry about today. Who knows who else might be injured when Tex et al are healthy again? The only thing I would urge the Yankees to do is give Tex 3-4 weeks hitting in the Minors before even considering bringing him back. They brought Granderson back too quickly and he’s not contributing much right now.

  119. Madrugador May 21st, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Not sure why Hughes would not get a QO? Sure he is inconsistent and I shudder to think of him being a fly ball pitcher in Camden Yards tonight but he is a #4 or #5 big league pitcher. Also, I’d like to see another healthy left handed reliever somewhere in the organization so while I am not totally sold on Logan, at the moment he needs to be resigned.

  120. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Shame-

    YT is an expert in these matters.

    In his opinion, the likelihood of Tex staying healthy for the season is low.

    I’ll go with his take. I think it will be unlikely for Tex to make it thru the season w/o the surgery.

    I hope I’m wrong since I’d like to see him avoid the knife.

    That would put him out for even longer.

  121. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 10:49 am

    There is nothing to love about Tex approach against RHP or his declining physical ability that more or less lead him into that position. But, i think we are overrating Overbay a bit.

  122. Jesus Bustero May 21st, 2013 at 10:50 am

    How about Joba Chamberlain for Jordan Shafer?

  123. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Shame,

    He’s coming back. What frightens me is that he comes back, we dump Overbay and then he while slumping he says “well, the wrist has never been 100%”.

    That’s the kind of excuses he makes as a Yankee.

    I do hope the Yankees put him through the rigors in the rehab before activating him. He knows if he says he’s sore, they’ll shut him down as they have a real option helping them win.

    But yeah, my dream would be a Youk/Overbay platoon at 1b with Adams settling in at 3b, but Youk rotating over to 3b 1x week or so.

  124. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:51 am

    The only thing I would urge the Yankees to do is give Tex 3-4 weeks hitting in the Minors before even considering bringing him back. They brought Granderson back too quickly and he’s not contributing much right now.
    ======================
    Very true.
    Give Tex as much of a chance to reinjure himself down there as possible.
    Better there than here.

  125. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Why would the focus of Overbay and Wells and Hfaner , for that matter, change?
    They are having the time of their lives and are under no pressure to produce.
    Win-win…

  126. JCPD May 21st, 2013 at 10:55 am

    MTU, been busy with work. Supposed to head out on vacation on Saturday after having to have postponed it in April. My better half has a blot clot in her leg, so we’re hoping she’ll be able to fly.

  127. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Rosy-

    Where do you find how many of the Yankees 56 homeruns are solo shots, in the ESPN MLB Team Batting Stats, a site I go to often?

  128. Russell Munson May 21st, 2013 at 10:55 am

    “Overbay is hot right now, so I look like the wet blanket, but people are going overboard with what they think he’ll do moving forward. Teix is a better player (if he’s truly healthy).”

    Thank you. This belief that all of a sudden Overbay at 36 has turned into a .900 OPS hitter against right handed pitching is illogical. He’s having a nice run, but there’s no reason to think he’s going to keep it up.

  129. mick May 21st, 2013 at 10:55 am

    I can see G Love wants no part of my optimism… ;)

  130. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 10:56 am

    If they gonna let go of Overbay, then they have to be 100 pct sure that Tex is healthy. Of course, he could be while on rehab and be done in one AB when he does return with the nature of the injury. But i would give him as much time as it is needed to make sure he is fully healthy and feeling no ill effects after a few days of playing.

  131. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2013 at 10:57 am

    MTU – Given the type of injury, I don’t see any scenario where Tex is 100% this year.

    G.Love – Unfortunately they might go that route. At this point, I don’t think Overbay is in any danger, though. There’s too much fat that could be cut before him. And like bruce mentioned, in a month we might be looking at a totally different scenario.

    I do agree that we share a fear: Tex returning, playing subpar baseball, and at the end of the year we’re told he’s having surgery and ‘oh yeah he wasn’t 100% since X date’… ugh.

  132. ObviousMan May 21st, 2013 at 10:58 am

    The WBC pays Tex’s salary while he’s on the DL.

  133. blake May 21st, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Tex hasn’t OPSsd .800 vs RHP since 2009…..his LHP numbers propped up his overall ones until last year when he was hurt and didnt even do that.

    I like Tex and he’s he’s an overalls better player than Lyle Overbay but Lyle is just as good 2/3 of the time and that’s what stinks when you consider what the two are paid

  134. ObviousMan May 21st, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Also, baseball shorts are 90% luck– fact.

  135. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 11:01 am

    I’t s the whole staff that’s holding this team up largely, let’s not forget that. I don’t think there will be huge downgrade in team’s performance if Tex takes over for Overbay. CC has a good point. this team can be hapless against a decent lefties, Tex will help.

  136. G. Love May 21st, 2013 at 11:01 am

    mick,

    I said it last night, if Tex comes back and doesn’t rock the boat or reverts to the player he was, I’ll be the first to praise him.

    I’m just admittedly down on him like I was with Swisher. These were 2 in their prime bats who had great eyes at the plate who both wilted the past 3 post seasons when a hit or two could’ve put another title in the case.

    Swisher was all mental. He was a much better hitter in the regular season and because he was fragile upstairs, he had to go.

    Tex it’s all physical. He gets through the regular season with numbers accumulated in mini-streaks and great at bats against LHP.

    I’m not going to say I’m optimistic he’s going to reinjure himself. That’s wrong. I would never do that.

    But I do think the sight of him and Curtis behind Robbie brings back a lot of bad memories and it’s hard to be excited and just go with it.

    That said, most of my agita is the anticipation of the unknown at this point. I’m not freaking out over here despite how my posts may sound. I’m enjoying this team a ton this year and I feel far more invested in this group doing well.

    I just think when I write, my words seem emphatic and perhaps suggest that I’m ranting and raving in the streets about this which I’m not. The only place I talk about my Tex-fears is here quite frankly because most people in my daily life wouldn’t have a clue what I was going on about.

  137. blake May 21st, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “Thank you. This belief that all of a sudden Overbay at 36 has turned into a .900 OPS hitter against right handed pitching is illogical. He’s having a nice run, but there’s no reason to think he’s going to keep it up.”

    He basically hit what Tex did vs RHP last year though……so while yea he’s gonna come back to earth most likely at some point it’s not far fetched at all IMO to consider that he could probably out produce a bum wrist Tex vs rHP all season

  138. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Jim-

    I am sorry to hear that.

    Hope she feels better.

    I know flying under those circumstances can be a health hazard.

    Don’t be such a stranger. please stay in touch.

    Haven’t seen Big Al around much. I hope he is OK ?

    I have to run soon. See ya’ later.

    All the best.

  139. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 11:06 am

    MTU-

    Far from an expert on the type of injury that Tex had. After researching the injury to that particular tendon sheath, and this is a very small sample siize, every one of these hitters-Jose Bautista, Sam Fuld, Nick Johnson, Mark DeRosa, needed surgery. All of their injuries involved the wrist that was the bottom wrist/hand on the bat.

    Tex injured his right wrist and about 75% of his at bats are from the left side.

    Only David Ortiz avoided surgery on his left wrist, his top hand.

    Make whatever you want out of it, but if Tex does make it back 100%, without any further need for surgery, he’ll buck those small odds.

  140. ObviousMan May 21st, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Rember when the malcontents here complained Bout overbay over Juan Rivera. Lol. Fire Cashman!

  141. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 11:07 am

    YT-

    I have faith in your asessments.

    Later.

    ;)

  142. blake May 21st, 2013 at 11:08 am

    @McCulloughSL: The Yankees are partnering with Manchester City as owners of an expansion MLS team in New York. City is the majority owner.

    If they can buy soccer teams then they can go over 189

  143. jacksquat May 21st, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Overbay’s career OPS vs rhp is .825, so he’s not playing that much above his head, especially given his new home park. It’s not as if he’s never been a good hitter.

  144. MTU May 21st, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Have a great day all you fine LoHud people.

    Catch you later.

    :)

  145. ObviousMan May 21st, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Are the Yankee fans complaining about tex the same ones that begged Hal to sign josh Hamilton to a massive contract last offseason?

  146. Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Later also.

    Facing a righty tonight just off the DL with a blister, who hasn’t pitched well in his last 3 starts.

    Score some runs! Don’t want to see a Garcia 6 inning 3 hit , 2 run repeat!

    Have a great day.

  147. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Overbay’s career OPS vs rhp is .825, so he’s not playing that much above his head, especially given his new home park. It’s not as if he’s never been a good hitter.

    ————————

    Look at his numbers the past 2 years vs righties. They’re worse than Teixera’s. And Teix is a better defensive player.

  148. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Adams looks like he could hit, he probably would be a very adequate 2b option for a lot of teams.

  149. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 21st, 2013 at 11:13 am

    CC, I believe that Overbey can continue to produce the way he is producing for the entire season. We’ve seen guys older than 36 do it!

    Anyway, I think the most sage advice is that of bruceb. There is no point in worrying about the future. In baseball, you deal with today. Play today, win today.

    We could all be dead tomorrow. Would you prefer that your last day on earth was one where you obsessed over something over which you have not a whit of control, or where you truly enjoyed what was right in front of you?

    This is a team to enjoy the hell out of. No matter what anybody hopes will happen, we cannot affect it at all.

    I’m thinking that to someone who’s a chronic worrier, telling that person not to worry is like telling a drug addict not to crave drugs. (Not comparing the two, just saying that it’s easy to tell someone to enjoy and not worry, but if you’re not made that way, maybe it’s impossible to do.)

    Anyway, have a great day ya’ll! I’m going to.

    :)

  150. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 21st, 2013 at 11:14 am

    CC – the second half of my post was generic. I certainly don’t think of you as someone who obsesses or is a worrier!

    :)

  151. Bo knows May 21st, 2013 at 11:15 am

    I never understood why teams paid the big money for 1B. Overbay is one example but there is a whole mess of gronks with varying skills playing all over the minors. Playing in Yankee stadium, add in Baltimore and Texas a left handed bat adds 10 HRs to his resume. So you have the 30 HRs 1B. On top of that you have the Long factor in tweaking swings.

    Coincidentally that’s what Teix is. A 30 HR 1B. That he is getting paid 20 mil plus is really a subpar use of resources. It was this from the time he signed the contract. As to defense, I still maintain that Overbay has more range while Teix is better close in. The drop and dive method.

    By cutting a straight line instead of the curve in LF, in the new ball park the Yankees created a nightmare for themselves. LH hitters have these park assisted gaudy numbers or paper power that don’t translate well to other stadiums.

  152. blake May 21st, 2013 at 11:16 am

    “Look at his numbers the past 2 years vs righties. They’re worse than Teixera’s. And Teix is a better defensive player.”

    They are similar and Overbay is a great defender too

  153. pat May 21st, 2013 at 11:18 am

    “If they can buy soccer teams then they can go over 189″

    On the revenue they will generate from Manchester City using Legends Hospitality alone.

  154. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Bo, they paid big money to those who can hit, and hit for power. Tex was that, they paid for the past and projected future. 1b is traditionally an offensive position so i see what you saying. But this has little to do with 1b as oppose to the natural dangers of giving anyone who is over 28 and prolong contract.

  155. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 11:21 am

    *an… Cano will be next.

  156. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 11:22 am

    They are similar and Overbay is a great defender too

    ————-

    Similar…but worse. And I wouldnt call his D great at this point in his career.

    But like I wrote earlier (and Trisha just reitterated), we have at least a month before this is an issue. Let’s see what happens.

  157. CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 11:25 am

    A lot of people thought Cano would bounce back this yr vs lefties; he hasnt. That’s a major concern when a guy is looking for a 200+ mil contract.

  158. blake May 21st, 2013 at 11:27 am

    “Similar…but worse. And I wouldnt call his D great at this point in his career.”

    I think the point is that for 23 million more Tex needs to be better than similar to Lyle Overbay

  159. blake May 21st, 2013 at 11:28 am

    CountryClub says:
    May 21, 2013 at 11:25 am
    A lot of people thought Cano would bounce back this yr vs lefties; he hasnt. That’s a major concern when a guy is looking for a 200+ mil contract.

    It’s still early but it’s a red flag….

  160. blake May 21st, 2013 at 11:28 am

    There is no soccer in baseball

  161. Bo knows May 21st, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Yep, they paid Teix because he was a name and was signed as A Rod transition. A middle of the order bat that the casual fan recognized. “Come and see Teix hit, part of the Yankee experience shtick. I’ve never been, but judging from comments YS is a money, vacuum cleaner.

    They’re selling the experience not the game. They should pay the bleacher creatures as extras. They’ve even got the wave going.

    Who the hell charges a thousand dollars a seat per game – consumption noveau riche snobbism at its worst.

    Must be good – we paid a fortune for them.

  162. astrocityfan May 21st, 2013 at 11:34 am

    A post about the yankees bullpen seems like the right place to point out Scott Proctor retired yesterday. Unfortunately for him, his arm retired several years ago :)

  163. Patrick May 21st, 2013 at 11:36 am

    There is no soccer in baseball

    Tell that to Paul O’Neill

  164. willkamm May 21st, 2013 at 11:38 am

    JCPD May 21st, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Hey MTU, I lived in Fargo for six years. It may have been cold, but it wasn’t lonely. ;-)

    I recall Roger Maris being from Fargo.

  165. jacksquat May 21st, 2013 at 11:39 am

    CountryClub May 21st, 2013 at 11:12 am
    Overbay’s career OPS vs rhp is .825, so he’s not playing that much above his head, especially given his new home park. It’s not as if he’s never been a good hitter.

    ————————

    Look at his numbers the past 2 years vs righties. They’re worse than Teixera’s. And Teix is a better defensive player.

    I’m not going to go by just the past 2 years. Over his career he has been a good hitter vs rhp so I’m saying it’s not extremely surprising what he is doing now. No one is saying he will OPS .950 vs rhp all year, but the chance he is better than Tex is good, unless Tex shows some signs of change, and hasn’t.

    Anyway, they can’t just release Overbay as soon as Tex is done with rehab.

  166. Cashmoney May 21st, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Cano for 200 mil is a bad idea imo.

  167. willkamm May 21st, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Yankee Trader May 21st, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Later also.

    Facing a righty tonight just off the DL with a blister, who hasn’t pitched well in his last 3 starts.

    Score some runs! Don’t want to see a Garcia 6 inning 3 hit , 2 run repeat!

    Have a great day.
    Miguel Gonzalez has pitched well against the Yankees in the 3 games he’s pitched. 21K’s in 19 IP, 6 BB, 2.75 ERA and a 1.07 WHIP. .211 BA. However he has given up 3 HR. Has a 2-1 record.


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