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Boesch returns to strange but familiar role

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 26, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brennan BoeschAn interesting thing happened two weeks ago when the Yankees sent Brennan Boesch to Triple-A.

Boesch said he was happy to go.

He wanted the at-bats. He wanted the regular playing time. He wanted some sort of role that wasn’t limited to random pinch hit opportunities and occasional starts by a left-handed hitter against a left-handed pitcher.

So Boesch got his wish, got to Triple-A and hit .179 in seven games.

“I went down, and I think I was a little more gung ho,” Boesch said. “And suddenly you’re down, and you realize you have a tough mental adjustment to make, probably a little tougher than I thought. … I had a positive attitude going down there, but until you get there, and you haven’t been there in a while, it’s a pretty trying experience to kind of create the same enthusiasm that you can create more easily in the big leagues. But I felt like I was on track to be able to do that, and to start to feel better about the situation, and sure enough, as soon as that happens, I’m back here.”

Boesch had just five hits, but three of them came on Thursday, in his next-to-last game before being recalled. Now it seems likely that he’ll fall back into that strange fourth-outfielder role, from which he would ideally fill in for Ichiro Suzuki, a platoon that’s complicated by both hitters being left-handed.

“I don’t expect anything,” Boesch said. “I just go about it nowadays just with my head down, taking an approach where you’re just kind of playing, and whatever happens happens, kind of thing. It’s been a roller coaster these last couple weeks, and you never know what to expect.”

It’s an odd situation, because Boesch has occasionally been a solid big leaguer — certainly not a bad option for a reserve — but there’s really no obvious way to use him on this roster, unless Ichiro Suzuki continues to struggle and the Yankees eventually give Boesch regular chances in right field.

“Obviously the circumstances in which I’m back, you never wish that on anybody,” Boesch said. “Curtis has had such a tough break this year. But I’m back here, and definitely looking forward to whatever opportunities I’m given.”

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227 Responses to “Boesch returns to strange but familiar role”

  1. 86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    I hope they can keep Boesch all season. He has a nice upside, doesn’t cost much, seems to have a good attitude and he’s not pushing 40. He hits LHP well enough to replace the worst hitter on Planet Houston — Ben Fran-WHIFF-sco who as more K (11) than hits (5) and walks (5) combined.

  2. GregD May 26th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    glad the Yanks had Boesch to bring up, their depth has been amazing

  3. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Wells has been struggling. Maybe Boesch will get some extra at bats, while Wells sits vs. some righties.

    Blake and MTU-

    If the Yankees resign Cano during the season, and plan to stay within the 189M LT threshold, I’m not sure if Hughes is affordable. If there is an inkling that Kuroda might return for one more season, the Yankees would probably extend a QO, projected to be 14-15M, up from 13.3M this past offseason.

  4. 86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    If no one is extended/re-signed I’d expect QO will be given to Cano, Granderson and Kuroda…. Not Pettitte or Rivera with Hughes being somewhat iffy.

    If they keep winning with $ 100 M in payroll on the DL that would make contending @ $ 189 M seem quite doable. I still say the key to matching on-field success with fiscalmrestraint is cheap pitching, specifically cheap starting pitching.

    A rotation of CC, Pineda, Phelps, Nova and Nuno/Warren would save more than $ 30 M off this year’s payroll. The question, of course is can it win?

  5. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Alex Cobb-Last time he faced the Yankees he shut them out, pitching 8.1 innings, 3 hits, 7 strikeouts.

    So far this year his ERA vs lefties is 2.33 vs 3.48 against righties.

    Time for our second Ace to pitch a gem.

  6. Frankg May 26th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Who do we keep—Hafner or Overbay? They are hitting about the same. Hafner with the lack of glove looks like a luxury we can’t afford. Too many injuries and the team that needs flexibility. Overbay is needed in case Tex is hurt again, to give him a rest and hits with surprising power.

  7. 86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    I understand how you calculate BA versus LH/RH batters, but how the hell can you calculate an ERA??

  8. MTU May 26th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    YT-

    You’ve got mail.

  9. Jesus Bustero May 26th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Would anyone trade Cano for Kemp and move Adams to 2B?

  10. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    86183-

    Have no idea. Just reporting from this article:

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/p...../alex-cobb

  11. pkyankfan69 May 26th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    I’d trade Cano for Kemp and then just resign Cano in the offseason. #Pipedream.

  12. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    A rotation of CC, Pineda, Phelps, Nova and Nuno/Warren would save more than $ 30 M off this year’s payroll. The question, of course is can it win?
    ———————————–
    If that rotation is healthy, and if Pineda has regained velocity and developed a 3rd pitch, and Nova has advanced, yes I think the Yankees can win their division. Price might be gone.

  13. 86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    YT —-

    I read it… But unless you face only LH or RH batters in an inning it makes no sense.

    Off to Central Park on a gorgeous morning

    Later

  14. Jesus Bustero May 26th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Cano 2B – 25 M
    Gardner CF – 5 M
    Adams 3B

    or

    Adams 2B
    Kemp CF – 20 M
    Headley 10 M

  15. jacksquat May 26th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 8:52 am
    If no one is extended/re-signed I’d expect QO will be given to Cano, Granderson and Kuroda…. Not Pettitte or Rivera with Hughes being somewhat iffy.

    If they keep winning with $ 100 M in payroll on the DL that would make contending @ $ 189 M seem quite doable. I still say the key to matching on-field success with fiscalmrestraint is cheap pitching, specifically cheap starting pitching.

    A rotation of CC, Pineda, Phelps, Nova and Nuno/Warren would save more than $ 30 M off this year’s payroll. The question, of course is can it win?

    You need a more established #2 at least, like a Kuroda. Pineda is a stretch at this point to be counted on as a #3, let alone 2. Phelps is probably a 4/5 (although he could end up better).

  16. blake May 26th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    “What about Nova. How do you see his future ?”

    MTu,

    Hard to say….lot of different directions he could go. He could get another rotation shot at some point and do well and stick….he could thrive in the pen and stick there….or he could be traded.

    I almost am leaning toward the last one right now but who knows

  17. Bo knows May 26th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    I realize it was against Tampa yesterday but Claiborne is still looking good, Hell, he looks magnificent.

  18. MTU May 26th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Thanks blake.

    Got to run soon.

  19. blake May 26th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Bo knows says:
    May 26, 2013 at 9:22 am
    I realize it was against Tampa yesterday but Claiborne is still looking good, Hell, he looks magnificent.

    Looks legit to me….The yanks have become a bullpen arm factory

  20. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    What is wrong with Matt Kemp this year. Injuries?

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/...../matt-kemp

  21. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Blake-

    I watched Nova pitch yesterday and was impressed with the velocity of his fastball. The slider was not there, and some of those hits were on pretty good pitches. Once he can pinpoint his location, he might thrive?

    Did you see something different yesterday?

  22. jacksquat May 26th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Nova’s problem is command.

  23. Crawdaddy May 26th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Kemp has shoulder problems which is affecting his offensive production.

  24. Yankee Trader May 26th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Time to go.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Have a great day.

  25. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Exciting game last night. Haven’t posted in a long time, but this version of the Yankees seems far more interesting than what we’ve seen in the past. Not sure I am eager for wounded to return–shirts with names don’t win games–competitive players do.

  26. GregD May 26th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    I would love to see Nova find what works for him….he does have good stuff, he was up to 96 yesterday and he threw a wicked slider to Loney for K

  27. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Really? The shirts with names have been winning an awful lot of games over the last almost two decades.

  28. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Doreen:

    I realize you are a “regular” here, but your response seems almost too pithy to require a reply. Those who have played should understand that sometimes “stars” fall into a pattern of belief that they simply have to appear (we used to say “throw their shirts on the field”) and that should warrant a win. It is a mindset that players who’ve reached the mega-million contract sometimes fall into–look around the league.

  29. fantasygame101 May 26th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    that one innings tells you the good and the bad of nova. The good is that he throws hard and can strike out people. The bad is the walks, too many pitches and the balls hit are not on the ground. With just adequate control, few pitches that creates groundouts would be ideal for him, until he revert back to that pitcher, he will be inconsistent to say the less.

  30. 86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    You guys realize there are no names on Yankees jerseys, right.

    I’m as happy as anyone with their success, but the lineup against hP is pretty weak by anyone’s standards.

  31. randy l. May 26th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    “shoppach continues his losing ways.

    felix started losing when he caught him three starts ago.

    wedge choked and threw away the baseball feng shui between felix and jesus.”

    so jacksquat, how exactly did you “debunk ” this?

    shoppach catches him and he gets hurt after 4 stellar outings with montero.

    feng shui is about balance and how things go together. upset the polarity and the energy goes awry.

    wedge has thrown off his team’s chemistry by messing with his superstar pitcher.

    check this photo out:

    https://twitter.com/RealKingFelix/status/319337907355787265/photo/1

    where’s shoppach?

    he’s not there is he?

    case closed :)

  32. Crawdaddy May 26th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Hey fool, most of us don’t care about the Mariners.

  33. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    86w183 May 26th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    You guys realize there are no names on Yankees jerseys, right.

    I’m as happy as anyone with their success, but the lineup against hP is pretty weak by anyone’s standards.

    Agreed, perhaps that’s what makes them interesting to watch thusfar. Not sure they can sustain this much longer but the “underdog scuffling against great odds” seems to propel them.

  34. blake May 26th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    “Did you see something different yesterday?”

    I actually missed him yestersay.. ….I do think if he’d accept the role then he could be a stud reliever

  35. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    ltl

    Sorry for the pithiness.

    But it gets ridiculous sometimes in here, and people who have no dea would certainly be forgiven if they got the impression that the Yankees have been a .500 or worse team recently.

    The fact is, is that even if they have done what you suggest (throw their shirts on the field and expect to win by simply being there), well then I’d say they’ve been pretty successful at showing up and getting wins. The worst season the Yankees have had in 20 years is 2008, and even that was not a sub .500 year, and occurred because of devastating injury late in the season.

    Is this years team more fun to watch than last year? I’d agree they are. But last year’s team also won a lot of games, overcame some injuries as well to do it. They fell short at the end.

    I have never had the feeling, even last year, that anyone on that team dialed it in or didn’t give 100%. The results sometimes weren’t there on an individual basis, but the work ethic was there.

    Also it may have escaped the notice of some people, but Overbay won the game with a HR. earlier, Hafner looked to be trying to hit one out, as did Wells. The only reason Cano didn’t is because they pitched around him all day. Guys who have power are going to try and use that power. Do they sometimes or did they last year need to take a different approach sometimes, sure. But it’s a tiresome narrative to suggest that any of the recent Yankees teams phoned it in.

  36. Frankg May 26th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    From Zack Links, MLB Trader:

    Chris Bootcheck is having a resurgence at the Yankees’ Triple A affiliate, posting a 2.80 ERA with 7.6 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9. The Yankees haven’t called the right-hander up yet and he has a late-June opt-out. If he’s still pitching well, he would be in demand.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

  37. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    randy:

    Interesting observation. So much of baseball is in the mind–something not always clear to fans.

    On another front that you might know more about than I do, are the Yankees not providing sufficient support/development for kids they draft as 16 year-olds? Do the pros have schools for these kids to attend during the season and off-season? Or is it just baseball? Seems like the player’s toolbox should include some mental development too.

  38. blake May 26th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Kudos to Ichiro for the game saving play yesterday….great jump and reaction and positioning .

    Adams has looked so rock solid at 3B and I’ve been really impressed with his defense as much as anything…..I don’t see how they can even consider moving him off there

  39. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Doreen:

    I had no specific team in mind. As a fan of the Yankees since the early fifties, there have been “players” on past teams who have mailed it in. Imagine playing 162 times in a season, not to mention pre- and post- season games. The ability to stay focused probably requires far more self-discipline than most can muster (maybe the difference between superstars and journeymen).

    My comment was more at how this current team has, for the most part, resisted the temptation to take a game or at bat off. My example was metaphoric.

  40. jacksquat May 26th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Randy, if you want to beleive in “feng shui” that’s up to you.

    If you say it’s because Montero is better or he can catch Felix better for other reasons, or that the Mariners’ winning record when Montero catches is not because of who he catches, then I disagree.

    Felix pitched very well against the Yankees with Shoppach catching until he got injured and had to come out of the game.

  41. G. Love May 26th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    blake,

    Adams looks like a big league hitter up there. He just looks the part. I’m a fan. I could see a .300 hitting 3b with average D and a chance at 20 HR’s which would be amazing in this league right now.

  42. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Blake

    That was a great play!

    Adams looks to be getting more comfortable at third each game. Loved that one inning where he had all three chances!

  43. backbench May 26th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    There seems to be a ‘get it done’ chemistry with this lash up group of players. Not sure that continues when MT returns.

  44. jacksquat May 26th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    It’s not the homeruns per se, it’s the approach at the plate.

    Yesterday Overbay got a cookie and crushed it, that’s what you do with cookies.

    The difference between Tex and Overbay is, if a pitch is on the lower, outer part of the plate Overbay will go with that pitch to the opposite field much more often than Tex, who will still try to pull it and hit a weak ground ball or popup.

  45. G. Love May 26th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    By the way, I think a full season of Overbay at 1b vs. RHP would get close to 30 Hr’s with a high average. I don’t think this is a small sample hot streak at this point at all. I would think 2 months is a fairly decent indicator of the kind of season you’re going to have unless Jerkface shows me differently.

  46. blake May 26th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    G. Love says:
    May 26, 2013 at 10:47 am
    blake,

    Adams looks like a big league hitter up there. He just looks the part. I’m a fan. I could see a .300 hitting 3b with average D and a chance at 20 HR’s which would be amazing in this league right now.”

    Yea I don’t think he’s gonna be star….but solid cost controlled regulars are what they need with Hals budget and he looks like he could be that to me.

    I guy that’ll hit for some average…..hit 15 or so homers….play hard and play big league average 3B……for the league minimum.

    They need to keep playing him regardless of Youk and Arod coming back…..

  47. Tar May 26th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Why is LHP david Huff claimed from the Indians in the Yankee clubhouse? (tweeted by Boland)

  48. Barry May 26th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    G. Love

    In his long career Overbay has never yet hit the way you predict. And people are comparing an above average player to an gifted super star. Any examination of their careers has Tex coming out on top both defensively and offensively. And, I like Lyle. He should be kept around but not for the reasons given.

    Doreen: What happened in 2008 that was so devastating…?

  49. blake May 26th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    The Cardinals have a couple of star type players but in general their strength is pitching an a team full of cost controlled big league regulars that they developed. That’s how they are always good with a reasonable payroll

  50. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Does anyone know if “M” has posted lately?

  51. blake May 26th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Ellbury has a .645 OPS …..I can’t wait to see Boras try to sell teams a 5 year contract on him

  52. blake May 26th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Haven’t seen m post in a long time

  53. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    ltl

    Sure, over the course of a season, most players (not named Derek Jeter ) are going to have a few games where the energy just isn’t there.

    I’d agree that the makeup of this year’s team does not allow the luxury of a low energy day. And that there is something to the idea of a team or an individual with something to prove can even have more energy (for lack of a better word).

    I simply don’t understand why this team can’t be appreciated for itself without having to denigrate specifically last year’s team., which for all it’s apparent faults still managed to win more games than any other team in its league and did hang on to get to the second round of the playoffs before crumbling.

    And if you talk about the mental aspect of playing, Jeter crumbling to the ground in the game against Detroit had to take all the wind, any that was left, completely out of the team. In my mind, once that happened, the season was done. The last of whatever mental energy was expended in the last month of last season disappeared when Jeter went down in such dramatic fashion.

  54. blake May 26th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Girardi better get serious consideration for manager of the year

  55. randy l. May 26th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “If you say it’s because Montero is better or he can catch Felix better for other reasons, or that the Mariners’ winning record when Montero catches is not because of who he catches, then I disagree.

    Felix pitched very well against the Yankees with Shoppach catching until he got injured and had to come out of the game.”

    jacksquat-

    felix is buddies with montero. he liked throwing to him. they hung out at night together. they had a chemistry. felix is that team. any manager who’s worth anything would add parts that complement the one supertar they have.

    it’s no coincidence the mariners have hit the skids since wedge threw a hissy fit and got down on montero. what wedge should have done was kept running montero out there until the team started losing with him out there.

    you don’t even want to look at the mariners record with montero cacthing. it would not fit your vision of things.

    that said, i’m finding it amusing that monetro is playing first base at tacoma with no errors after not ever playing there. kind of funny because why wouldn’t a team teach montero first base in addition to catching? what were the yankees thinking in never having him pay a single game there ?

    if the yankees were neglectful in developing montero properly ( and gardner never learning to bunt in the minors is another classic example of neglect) who are they now not developing properly. is there a downside to having all catchers learn another position?

    what happens to sanchez if he blows out his arm and he only knows how to catch? or jr murphy?
    i haven’t looked and maybe these guys are playing a little first or third base or outfield if they track fly balls well. but i kind of doubt it.

    the point is catchers should have another position they can at least play a little.

  56. pkyankfan69 May 26th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Overbay has been awesome VS rhp this year so far .301/.347/.575/.922.

    But where was this the last few seasons?

    2012 vs RHP (102 AB) – .265/.339/.412/.751
    2011 vs RHP (286 AB) – .231/.314/.364/.677
    2010 vs RHP (408 AB) – .250/.340/.441/.781

    I hope it continues as long as he continues to get a lot of playing time but the #’s suggest he is due for major regression in terms of power, and moderate regression in terms of AVG.

  57. MG May 26th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    jacksquat May 26th, 2013 at 10:46 am
    Randy, if you want to beleive in “feng shui” that’s up to you.

    If you say it’s because Montero is better or he can catch Felix better for other reasons, or that the Mariners’ winning record when Montero catches is not because of who he catches, then I disagree.

    Felix pitched very well against the Yankees with Shoppach catching until he got injured and had to come out of the game.
    ————————————–
    The Mariners must not have ‘catcher feng shui’ in their binder because this isn’t the first time they have missed out on this important element of pitching.

    Here is Felix Hernandez’ ERA for two of his former catchers, both of whom are no longer in the major leagues:
    Adam Moore 12 89.0 13 1.31
    Jesus Montero 14 97.2 24 2.21

    1.31 ERA with a catcher sure looks like something a team would have to have, doesn’t it? And almost a full run per 9 innings less than Montero as well.

    I don’t know why they ever let Adam Moore leave the team, do you?

    http://www.baseball-reference......r&t=p

  58. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Barry,

    Matsui, Posada and Joba injuries.

  59. DONNYBROOK May 26th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    - SUNDAY ODDS AND ENDS -

    (1) I deal Nova with the 1st decent offer. The guy has a prima donna attitude, yet has done Nothing to actually merit such. He simply does Not fit in the Yankee “lunch pail” locker room.

    (2) Shoulda pinch ran for Boesch in the 9th. Even if you are forced to use an idle SP. That play at the plate with 2 out, should Not have even been close.

    (3) HP Ump was brutal to both sides. This guy has a history of “run-ins”. MLB needs to weed out the dead wood. It’s Umping staff like this that explains Bud’s shift to instant replay.

    (4) Cano outta the 2 Hole continues to produce a mouse.

    (5) “All’s well that ends well”. Now, how about a sweep?

  60. Tar May 26th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    In his career vs RHP Overbay is a .275 hitter with I guess close to 20 HR’s per year (113 HR with about 3300 AB’s).

    This year he is at .301 with 7 HR’s in 110 AB’s. If he gets 400 AB’s vs RHP what GLove suggested is not far fetched at all.

  61. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Blake,

    Apparently Francona s getting he MOY love on ESPN. :(

  62. ltl May 26th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Thanks Blake.

  63. mick May 26th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Do you think Alvin Lee belongs in the R&R HOF?
    =============================
    Why not, I’m easy. For this alone:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ5qFu9I4sw

    Bring C*cker, Havens and The Moodys with 10 Years After…

  64. Doreen May 26th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Randy,

    Just one question, Felix was a winning pitcher long before Montero got there wasn’t he?

    He may very well be disappointed for his friend, he may have liked throwing to him, liked being a mentor of sorts for his countryman. But if his recent struggles are because Montero isn’t there, that’s a Felix Hernandez problem.

  65. blake May 26th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Doreen says:
    May 26, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Blake,

    Apparently Francona s getting he MOY love on ESPN.

    Of course

  66. mick May 26th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Randy is just f*cken with y’all….pay no attention to the man behind the curtain… ;)

  67. Ys Guy May 26th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    i think you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves on overbay.

    after two months of 1.00 ops’ing, lyle coudlnt hit a damn thng, ops’d .260 for july and was released.

    im not saying its gonna be that drastic a dropoff but you have to see how far about his recent and career records he is and expect both a slump and general regression to the mean.

    plus, add in youk, tex, adams and later arod taking AB’s away from him.

    be glad for what we’ve gotten,but it IS going to end, probably soon at he has a habit of getting real ugly for long stretches.

  68. Tar May 26th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Mick

    Such language, you know better than that.

    Y’all is for southern folk, like Blake and now me. :D

  69. DONNYBROOK May 26th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Talking about Any awards prior to the ALL-STAR BREAK is a laugh. You gonna award the winner of the Indy 500 after 200 miles? Didn’t think so.

  70. jacksquat May 26th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    randy l. May 26th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    you don’t even want to look at the mariners record with montero cacthing. it would not fit your vision of things.

    —–

    Actually, I did, and posted about it yesterday:

    jacksquat May 24th, 2013 at 8:42 am
    Getting tired of Randy’s BS posts about Montero CERA and Seattle’s record when he catches, I decided to look at the full stats instead of Randy’s cherry picking.

    Pitcher – GS(Montero) (total pitcher GS, ERA) [Team] Wins Losses

    Felix Hernandez – 8GS(10GS, 2.07 ERA) 5W 3L
    Hisashi Iwakuma – 5GS(10GS, 2.37 ERA) 3W 2L
    Joe Saunders – 6GS(9GS, 5.64 ERA) 3W 3L
    Blake Beavan – 1GS(2GS, 8.27 ERA) 1W 0L
    Brandon Maurer – 3GS(9GS, 6.80 ERA) 1W 2L
    Aaron Harang – 1GS(6GS, 8.58 ERA) 1W 0L
    Hector Noesi – 1GS(1GS, 2.63 ERA) 1W 0L

    As you can see, Montero has caught almost all of Felix’s starts and half of Iwakuma’s starts. Saunders has the “middle” ERA on the team, and Shoppach has had the pleasure of catching a lot of the awful Maurer and Harang starts.

    This fully explains the CERA difference between Montero and Shoppach, and when you catch the much better ERA, you’re going to have a better team W/L.

    Randy debunked.

  71. NYYROC May 26th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    My guess is Huff in Nuno to AAA. Doesn’t deserve it but can’t be used for 5 days. Next turn either Andy or Nova (if Andy not ready).
    I agree about Nova..broadcasters said he is not happy about being in pen. Given the way he’s pitched he’s lucky to be on the team. Hey Nova, just shut yer pie hole and have a clean inning in under 20 pitches for once.

  72. mick May 26th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Tar- My friend, again.

    A southern Queens boy , no doubt….

    Howard Beach?

  73. Tar May 26th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    “be glad for what we’ve gotten,but it IS going to end, probably soon at he has a habit of getting real ugly for long stretches.”

    I agree we should be happy but really we can say that about nearly the whole team. Wells, Ichiro, Nix, Stewart, Youk, Boesch etc..

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    A major reason this team is winning are hits Overbay has made in situations against RHP that Tex beats himself at.

    I know it’s crazy to say stick with a guy who was waived by the Red Sox and is in his mid 30′s, but I’ve seen no sign of wearing down or bad mechanics. He’s got a simple solid swing and he’s in a groove.

    Tex’s return will most likely break whatever mojo is working there and I don’t feel that what Tex offers us at this point is worth breaking the mojo.

    I know I’m swimming upstream and Tex will be in the 4 hole “swinging as hard as he can” with his eyes closed at times, so it’s not worth debating too much as I know it’s a lost cause.

    I just think I never would’ve thought in my life that I’d feel this way about Overbay and I do. He’s a big part of what this team has done and with last night’s hit and a game winner against the Red Sox earlier, he’s showing that he can be relied on during crunch time which is something I don’t believe Tex will ever be for me personally.

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    Thank you. I recalled only Posada…

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    you may be right randy that they should have tried him at 1b, but the yankees may also be right that he wont work out there. 4 games in tacoma w/o an error proves nothing.

    you were the one telling everyone what a great catcher he was becoming while everyting else i read about his catching said he was failing. turns out they were right and you were wrong about that one.

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    and those are tex’s ‘bad months’.

    when overbay starts his slide just as tex comes back people are going to blame it on tex even though he did the exact same thing last year.

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    G Love

    Don’t want to sound pollyanna-ish , as someone alluded to last night, but Girardi is in “managing” mode and in a walk year and don’t see him sticking with Tex thru thick and thin.

    Injuries have played a major part this year and the baseball gods are smiling down on us.

    Tex will have to adapt or Girardi will fit in Sparky Smilin’ Lyle somewhere…I hear he played the OF in the minors.

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    G.Love:

    Interesting assessment, and, I believe right on the mark. Another example: Granderson’s return, despite how hard he tried (playing all over the outfield), seemed to slow things down. Each time one of the injured returns the team will go through some adjustment. Have to hope they can regain balance quickly

  86. Barry May 26th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    G. Love –

    I do think your arguments hold up. Baseball is that kind of game. In any case, I hope that you are right.

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    A few more tweets like his and Tex will get his from the baseball gods.
    Stop tweeting. And that goes for Grandy and Joba.
    Swisher and Aardsma learned the hard way.

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    mg-

    nice stats. seriously i mean that. those will be useful in future :)

    just guessing, maybe they let him go because his OPS was in romine territory.

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    putting pineda asise, it looks like the yankees made a perfect read on montero and moved him at the height of his value.

    we will see over the next few years what the return was, but its hard to see how the cashman could have timed trading montero any better.

  90. mick May 26th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Who cares if Montero learns to play 1st base?
    If he can’t hit he has no value.
    Maybe he should work on that in AAA.

  91. randy l. May 26th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    “you were the one telling everyone what a great catcher he was becoming while everyting else i read about his catching said he was failing. turns out they were right and you were wrong about that one.”

    ys guy-

    i’ve never been wrong about montero’s catching. i watched him once ,and said he could catch.

    that’s precisely what i said. i’ve never waived form it. he can catch, and he has.

    the problem is that he hasn’t hit the way he was expected to, but safeco had something to do with that. he now has to adjust to that speed bump in the road offensively.

    you can’t really beat me on this catcher thing,i’m the one that knows how to do it and you don’t, so keep trying to beat me on it. it’ll never happen :)

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  93. randy l. May 26th, 2013 at 11:48 am

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    kind of like weiters.

    weiters according to pitch framing stats has given up more runs than anyone in the american league.

  94. mick May 26th, 2013 at 11:52 am

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    Drafted by the Anaheim Angels in the 31st round of the 2003 MLB June Amateur Draft from Edison HS (Huntington Beach, CA), the Philadelphia Phillies in the 19th round of the 2005 MLB June Amateur Draft from Cypress College (Cypress, CA) and the Cleveland Indians in the 1st round (39th) of the 2006 MLB June Amateur Draft from University of California, Los Angeles (Los Angeles, CA).

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    let me clue you in on a little inside thing.

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