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Pitching matchups at Citi Field

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 27, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Tonight
RHP Phil Hughes (2-3, 5.51)
vs.
LHP Jonathon Niese (3-5, 4.80)
7:10 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network

Tuesday
RHP Hiroki Kuroda (6-3, 2.67)
vs.
RHP Matt Harvey (5-0, 1.93)
7:10 p.m.,MY9 and ESPN

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51 Responses to “Pitching matchups at Citi Field”

  1. Locke May 27th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Somebody else already said this, but today I’d like to remember our friend GB7. Thank you for your service and rest in peace. Hopefully the Yankees can get you a win today.

  2. blake May 27th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    blake says:
    May 27, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    “Its the expectations. The average fan isn’t sophisticated enough to appreciate a hitter’s approach at the plate. I like Home runs over singles myself.”

    Of cours it’s the expectations but the truth is that Tex has hit RHP more like Carlos Pena the last 3 years than a guy who should be making 23 million a year.

    Tex is obviously a better overall player than Lyle Overbay…..but it can in fact get frustrating watching him pop up of roll into the shift like 7 out of 10 right handed ABs…..especially when he’s soaking up so much of the payroll. They signed him to be a cornerstone player…..and he really hasn’t been one since the first year of an 8 year contract. That doesn’t mean he’s snot useful still….but fans are gonna get on underachievers and praise overachievers….it’s just human nature

  3. blake May 27th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Locke says:
    May 27, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Somebody else already said this, but today I’d like to remember our friend GB7. Thank you for your service and rest in peace. Hopefully the Yankees can get you a win today.

    Co-signed . I think GB would really like this team….

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 27th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    repost:

    “Well said Trisha…but I’m still having my cookout!”

    :D

    I said that was the rule in our house when my dad was alive! We’re going to a Memorial Day parade and after that we’re going to some event hosted by a friend of one of my brothers. He does it every year after the parade. I went and helped them set up last night, and we made sure there were miniature flags displayed throughout the hall.

    Enjoy the beautiful day bruce! And all.

  5. cogen777 May 27th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    http://www.baseballthinkfactor.....k_teixeira

    Good Q and A with Kevin Long on all the adjustments they tried to make with Mark Teixeira’s swing last year and how it probably made things worse. mentions a “media frenzy” about him needing to go the other way. Hard to believe in NY.
    Also good comments from Jose Bautista.

  6. blake May 27th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    I said at the time last spring that there was no way Tex could hit the ball the other way with his swing…..he’s much better off trying to maximize what he can do and that’s hit homers from the left side. It’s not idea but it is what it is. If he can walk and hit homers from the left side…..he a good overall RH hitter and play good glove defense then he will help the team

  7. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Bronx Born

    Great job and thank you, I needed that.

    Tom

    Thank you for correctly pointing out the differences, but my feeling of gratitude for all who served still stands.

    Trish

    Your dad seems like a special person. Its easy to see where you get your morals and strength of character from. Thanks for sharing :D .

    Back to the yard work I go.

  8. hardwired7 May 27th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Definitely thinking about you today, GreenBeret7. You were one of a kind, and it was a privilege talking Yankees baseball with you.

    Thank you to all of the men and women who fought and died for the freedoms that we enjoy today.

  9. CompassRosy May 27th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Blake ~

    Muni is nothing if not entertaining ;)

    —–

    I believe someone here follows Nick Franklin . . .
    apparently, he’s been recalled from AAA Tacoma. No word yet on the corresponding move but, I’m hoping it’s Blake’s fellow Tar Heel, Ackley – he is so lost right now.

  10. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    “No word yet on the corresponding move but, I’m hoping it’s Blake’s fellow Tar Heel, Ackley – he is so lost right now.”

    Rosy what the heck do you guys do to really good young hitters up there? I’ve been following Ackley for years and that kid can hit.

    Why don’t you send him and JM here so we can see if we can straighten them out. :D

  11. blake May 27th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Ackley is one that really shocks me….I can’t believe he’s been this bad. Tough game

  12. blake May 27th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Ackley, Smoak, and Montero…..3 can’t miss Nats that the Mariners and Safeco killed

  13. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    I don’t get it either Blake, weird.

  14. Doreen May 27th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    cmnsense:

    You said I posted the following:

    Several threads back however you made a few comments about “home grown” players with one statement standing out, i.e., “the Yankees have always built their team around home grown players” which does not reflect either the context of their history or the fact that they did not do the same things that today’s organization has and will do.

    I know I did not post this particular statement. Because I am aware that the Yankees have been built various methods – home grown, free agency, and in years past using other major league teams as de facto “farm systems.”

    Perhaps this was someone who responded to me? I’ll go back and check, but I just wanted to set the record straight. :)

  15. Bo knows May 27th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I must have been watching a different game last year. They were not pitching Teix inside other than FBs up and in. The majority of pitches were breaking balls down and away which Teix tried to hook with limited success.

    They are doing the same to Cano this year, as he tries to hit HRs. I agree that with his swing Teix can’t go opposite field but he certainly can go up the middle. I wouldn’t take a drastic swing change.

    But it’s like there’s only two options, two extremes. Those extreme makeovers never work. My feeling is that the back leg collapse was the major cause of the problems. That can be corrected without major swing adjustments.

  16. Doreen May 27th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    cmnsense:

    This was luis’ response to a post of mine:

    luis May 26th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
    Doreen,

    “Sorry to cut in… But I don’t think the era of career long players is over… At least on a team like the Yankees… What I think it might happen is that players are signed for extensions earlier in their careers so their prime years are assured… What I think it might happen is that careers might be shorter as a result of no PED use.

    Which poses a challenge to the Yankees if they choose to go the FA route instead of the building from within route. Since those FA available will be mostly past their primes.

    Also, all our dynasties have been built around a homegrown core.”

  17. Yankee Trader May 27th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Reflections and Thoughts on Memorial Day
    Daniel Doherty | May 27, 2013

    From Abraham Lincoln’s Second Inaugural Address – in which he reminded his contemporaries 148 years ago that every American has an obligation and responsibility to support the care of the military families of loved ones killed in action – one of our oldest and most noble traditions. He said,

    “With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation’s wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan–to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.”

    These words are as important today as when Lincoln first uttered them in 1865. Let us never forget them.

    —————————–

    My gratitude to all those who served our country. Miss you GB7!!

    BronxBorn-
    Beautiful words to remember our friend GB7

  18. CompassRosy May 27th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    blake says:
    May 27, 2013 at 12:44 pm
    Ackley, Smoak, and Montero…..3 can’t miss Nats that the Mariners and Safeco killed

    ~ ~ ~

    Thank heavan for #SimplySeager ;)

    —-
    @shannondrayer: Franklin is here at the stadium.

    @shannondrayer: Ackley’s locker is empty

  19. igotid88 May 27th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    To be fair Smoak didn’t hit in Texas either.

  20. Doreen May 27th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    cmnsense:

    Also, I believe I said Joe D may have had other reasons for thanking God he was a Yankee aside from simply being a Yankee.

    And he may very well have. Being a Yankee brought many good things to his life.

    Joe Di – did he not demand that he be introduced as the “Greatest Living Yankee?” I find that interesting.

    I am not in any way saying he wasn’t GREAT Yankee player. But I don’t think it’s a stretch to think he got other things out of being a Yankee player than simply the honor of playing Center Field in the Bronx. I’m not saying he’s not worthy of being on the list of peoples’ most beloved Yankee.

    What I was doing was responding to Randy in a conversation about home grown players being more invested in the Yankees than players brought in, and Randy held that quote of Joe D’s out. I really was pointing out that there COULD BE a lot of reasons for being glad to be a Yankee.

    ******

    Anyhow, Go Yankees!

    And Happy Memorial Day and thanks to all who served.

  21. CompassRosy May 27th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    *heaven

  22. blake May 27th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    igotid88 says:
    May 27, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    To be fair Smoak didn’t hit in Texas either.

    He didnt much but he never was given much time there

  23. Yankee Trader May 27th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    blake May 27th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    igotid88 says:
    May 27, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    To be fair Smoak didn’t hit in Texas either.

    He didnt much but he never was given much time there.

    ————————–
    Maybe Smoak, had he been a member of the 2003 Texas Rangers, he would have gotten hitting and other ” tips” fro teammates Palmeiro, ROdriguez, and Teixeira!

  24. CompassRosy May 27th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Ryan Divish ?@RyanDivish 1m
    Luetge and Ackley sent to Tacoma. FRanklin and Noesi called up

  25. Nilsson May 27th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Safeco is a tough hitters park, but there is really no real evidence that it turns hyped players into busts. Ever hear of confounding factors?

  26. blake May 27th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Nilsson says:
    May 27, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    Safeco is a tough hitters park, but there is really no real evidence that it turns hyped players into busts. Ever hear of confounding factors?

    There is no scientific evidence no….but a pretty significant list of observational cases where Safeco has affected hitters negatively…..Beltre, Ackley, Smoak, Montero….etc. nobody really can hit there

  27. cogen777 May 27th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Also, I believe I said Joe D may have had other reasons for thanking God he was a Yankee aside from simply being a Yankee.

    I was under the impression, that the Dimaggio quote (I thank God for making me a Yankee) (?) was or still is at the end of the clubhouse runway, over the doorway, leading to the Yankee dugout at Yankee Stadium.

    Thought I may have seen a photograph of Jeter touching it on his way to the dugout prior to a game.

  28. Nilsson May 27th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Also, when Jesus Montero was coming up through the Yanks minor league system, he played in a supposedly tough hitters park at AA. He did just fine.

    The last transition to the majors is the hardest jump to make. The range of adjustments run the full spectrum. Some players adjust in no time, some take a bit more time, some take a whole lot longer time (i.e. Chris Davis), some don’t at all. If people knew exactly what was the secret sauce to it, heck you’d be in high demand from MLB teams.

  29. cogen777 May 27th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Interesting, Jeter admits to now “owning” the sign from the old stadium that had Dimaggio’s “I thank the Lord” quote.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,137634

    I hope they put a new one at the new Yankee Stadium.

  30. Yankee Trader May 27th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Blake

    When I checked a few days ago, the walls were moved in, in the offseason at Safeco,about 4-5 feet in right, up to 17 ft. In left center, and 10 in left.

    Plus an increase in the homer rate from last season.

  31. BronxBorn May 27th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Thanks Guys… GB is one of the good ones. I wish him well on his journey.

  32. GregD May 27th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Today we remember the men and women who gave their life in service to our country. We must never forget the sacrifices of these men and women who have preserved our freedoms and our way of life. God Bless all those families who remember today with an empty chair at the table.

  33. blake May 27th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    “When I checked a few days ago, the walls were moved in, in the offseason at Safeco,about 4-5 feet in right, up to 17 ft. In left center, and 10 in left.”

    Can’t get rid of that marine layer though…..look it may just all be coincidence ….but it’s a lot of coincidences

  34. GregD May 27th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Alex and Edgar Martinez didn’t have any trouble hitting at Safeco

  35. cogen777 May 27th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    GregD May 27th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    Alex and Edgar Martinez didn’t have any trouble hitting at Safeco

    Griffey?

  36. tucker May 27th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    It is strange how Smoak seemed to be the more highly-touted prospect and the Rangers let Chris Davis go on a cheapie deal.

    Have never been impressed with Smoak and his long, loopy swing. Davis, however, has developed into a masher.

  37. GregD May 27th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Griffey only played a half season there in 1999…hit .285 on season

  38. blake May 27th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Alex only played a season and half there and Griffey only a half season but we are taking about already established HOF players there…..not kids trying to learn to hit in the majors. Again it might be pure coincidence

  39. blake May 27th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    Smoak was compared to Tex coming out of college

  40. blake May 27th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    @jnorris427: Wang today with SWB: 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, SO. 83 P/48 S. 10 GO/8 FO. #yankees

  41. Nilsson May 27th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Taking into account ballpark effects is one thing. I like using OPS+ to compare players, especially across different years.

    However, trying to determine why certain highly touted players don’t pan out isn’t so easy. Happens in every sport.

  42. Madrugador May 27th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Blake:
    Wang put up some gaudy numbers today for Scranton and he is pitching to a 3.07 ERA and a 1.27 WHIP but he gives up more hits than innings pitched, and looks like he might not be as effective as he once was at keeping the ball on the ground. He was great in his day, back to back 19 win seasons I recall but I think his sun is setting. Seems like he won’t make it with the big club unless the comebackers start having a greater impact on the pitching staff.

    Phil Hughes, our fly ball pitcher at Citi Field? Could that be a good match up?

  43. CompassRosy May 27th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    from Divish . . .

    Wedge believes much of Ackley’s issues are not physical.

    “With Ack, it’s more of a mental approach or a mindset up there, it’s not his swing anymore,” Wedge said. “He’s in a pretty good position fundamentally. Listen, he’s going to be a good hitter and he’s going to be a good player. He’s done a hell of a job at second base. He plays a great second base. He gets down the line quicker than anybody. He can steal a bag. He cuts the bases better than anybody. There’s a lot there to like. He’s a good kid. He competes. He just needs to get over some things mentally in regards to his approach. When he does that, we’ll get him back up there and I think he’ll take off.”

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com.....rylink=cpy

  44. Yankee Trader May 27th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Attached the home run rates by ballpark. You can compare Safeco with 2012.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/p.....t/HRFactor

    However the increase in home run rates at Safeco can be due to much more than the walls being moved in the offseason.

    Have to go.

    Enjoy the rest of the day.

  45. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    “Alex and Edgar Martinez didn’t have any trouble hitting at Safeco”

    Edgar

    .321 .435 .542 .977 Kingdome

    .293 .404 .5475 .879 Safeco

    Alex

    .315 368 .555 .923 Kingdome

    .268 .380 .509 889 Safeco

    Some of it is age related, But certainly not the same success as at the old Stadium.

  46. jacksquat May 27th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Probably almost all of it is age related with Edgar, he played his last 5 years at Safeco through age 41. Edgar could hit anywhere.

    I think Alex played only 1.5 years there.

  47. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    And just for comparison:

    During the Safeco years Edgar hit:

    .302 .409 .509 .918 overall

    .293 .404 .475 .879 at Safeco

  48. austinmac May 27th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    No one affiliated with the Mariners cares as much about Montero as do fans of his former team. To what end?

  49. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Alex played 5 years at the Kingdome

  50. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Sorry you were talking about at Safeco… duh

  51. Tar May 27th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    “No one affiliated with the Mariners cares as much about Montero as do fans of his former team. To what end?”

    Mac

    I get your point , but not sure I agree with that. The M’s have a lot riding on JM.

    And just for he record this discussion started with Rosy posting about Ackley being sent down. Which surprised Blake and I which prompted the discussion about Safeco.

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