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Postgame notes: “I did a terrible job out there”

Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Notes on May 28, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

New York Yankees v New York Mets

If you think the Yankee bullpen had been sharp this year, consider: The Yankees just dropped their first game of the season when trailing after six innings.

They fell 2-1 to the Mets, who, almost just as remarkably, have now tied the club record with five straight wins in their last at-bat at home (when they actually win, of course). That this one came against the Yankees was a surprise; largely because of their bullpen brilliance, the Yanks entered tonight 22-0 when leading after six.

David Robertson has been just about as responsible as the great Mariano Rivera for that late-game dominance. But he had no command, damning his own performance perhaps even more than necessary.

“I did a terrible job out there,” Robertson said. “I didn’t have any command of anything really. That was pretty much the downfall right there. I couldn’t throw a fastball where I wanted to and I kept falling behind in the count. I couldn’t throw a breaking ball for a strike. When you keep making mistakes like that against good teams, they make you pay for it.”

While the Mets may not be good, you get the point. Robertson allowed a double to Mike Baxter, walked the impatient Jordany Valdespin and surrendered the winning single to Daniel Murphy. He also nearly hit David Wright in the head with a curve ball.

It was just Robertson’s second blown save all season. The other came Apr. 20 at Toronto.

Here’s more from Robertson:

• It’s sometimes hard in the wake of a tough loss for athletes to balance their disappointment with their delight at one achievement or another. That was the case with Brett Gardner’s grand larceny of Murphy in the sixth. The center fielder reached over the wall to snare Murphy’s potential go-ahead two-run homer to end the inning.

Phil Hughes had three balls nearly carry out of cavernous Citi Field before David Wright’s no-doubter in the seventh tied it 1-1. But Gardner just considered his highlight-reel grab payback for when he crashed into the wall on Wright’s triple to right-center in the first.

“I felt like I got him back for messing up earlier in the game,” he said.

Gardner said he was OK after the collision. He crashed into a padded post on the open fencing and thought it helped soften the blow.

Here’s more from Gardner, including a not-so-subtle dig at his height:

New York Yankees v New York Mets• Although a little lucky he was in Queens instead of the Bronx, Hughes was solid. He threw six scoreless before allowing the Wright homer and finished having thrown seven innings of one-run, four-hit ball without issuing a walk.

He said the pitch to Murphy in the sixth was a bad changeup. He thought the ball was gone based on Murphy’s reaction and Gardner’s effort just to track it. He said he tried to pitch Wright inside in the seventh after getting him to ground out earlier in the game.

Wright fouled off four pitches in the at-bat before homering with two strikes. It was the 11th allowed this year by Hughes, tying him with CC Sabathia and a host of others for the second-most in the AL.

“It’s tough,” Hughes said. “He’s not a guy who’s easy to strikeout. He fouled off a couple pretty good pitches. I decided that going in right there might be a good option and just left it out over the plate.”

More from Hughes:

• Murphy — one of those hitters who punishes himself to get better — stomped in frustration after Gardner robbed him in the sixth. He later spiked his bat in celebration upon lining the winning hit to center in the eighth.

Joe Girardi had no qualms with Murphy’s exuberance.

“I don’t have an issue,” Girardi said. “It’s an emotional game. Some guys are going to show more emotion outwardly than other guys. I only have a problem if I feel a guy’s doing it to show up another guy and I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary.”

• As for Girardi, there wasn’t much to debate with him afterward. He may have had a spot or two for Travis Hafner earlier, but the slugger was up with Ichiro Suzuki on base down a run in the ninth. Bobby Parnell got Hafner to pop out to end it, but Girardi was asked why Ichiro didn’t attempt to steal with either Lyle Overbay or Hafner at the plate to put him in position to score on a single.

“He kept changing his looks. He kept changing his times,” Girardi said of Parnell. “He was pretty quick most of the time. I think it’s a pretty big risk with Hafner up.”

• The brain lock of the night belonged to Chris Stewart, who simply dropped Robertson’s pitch to Ruben Tejada with one out in the eighth. It could’ve proven an awful time to lose focus. Mets’ runners moved to second and third with one out, but Robinson Cano helped bail Stewart out when he threw home on Tejada’s grounder and Stewart tagged out lead runner Mike Baxter.

I asked Stewart if he and Robertson were crossed up. Like Robertson, he did not pass the blame.

“I botched it somehow,” Stewart said. “I’ve caught that same pitch 1,000 times and never had a problem with it. Unfortunately, I don’t know if I just took my eye off of it at the last second or what, but it hit off my glove and got by me.”

• Vernon Wells snapped a 0-for-17 skid. Good timing, because…

• The attendance was 32,911. ESPNNY’s Adam Rubin reported that it was the lowest attendance in Subway Series history.

• The Yankees face Matt Harvey tomorrow night. Even after a relatively rough outing vs. the Reds (4 ER on 9 H, 3 BB in 6.1 IP), Harvey leads baseball in WHIP (0.83) and opponent batting average (.169).

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183 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I did a terrible job out there””

  1. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    Can’t wait to watch Harvey. Real talent in his arm. Given the trap game type status of our fairly pathetic offense vs a pitcher of that caliber, I just wonder which of our guys is going to unexpectedly stomp him.

  2. igotid88 May 28th, 2013 at 12:38 am

    I find it odd that espn has Hughes down for 5 quality starts when he has 6.

  3. Niblick May 28th, 2013 at 12:43 am

    Midnight is fast approaching, Cinderella. This team is headed to .500 land.

  4. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Yanks are only team not to have a 3-game losing streak so far?

    So they’ll be going up against Harvey to keep that going. Yikes.

  5. Rich in NJ May 28th, 2013 at 12:56 am

    Can you really be a Cinderella team in May?

  6. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 1:08 am

    Depends what time zone you’re in. Midnight is still a couple hours away out west.

  7. fantasygame101 May 28th, 2013 at 1:18 am

    if we have a right handed bat, hughes would have been pinch hit for before he gave up wright hr. If we have a reliable lh reliever, Robertson will not be pitching there.

  8. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 1:24 am

    True, and we might have scored another run or so as well. Hope for the future.

  9. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 1:27 am

    And, for the sake of argument, what makes you think they are playing much better than they should be i.e. “headed to .500 land?” They have played well so far and are a second half team pretty much every season.

  10. igotid88 May 28th, 2013 at 1:29 am

    fantasygame101 May 28th, 2013 at 1:18 am
    if we have a right handed bat, hughes would have been pinch hit for before he gave up wright hr. If we have a reliable lh reliever, Robertson will not be pitching there.
    ———

    Or Hughes could have gone back out for the 8th.

  11. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 1:32 am

    Here is a great and I think pretty obscure song, it’s Built to Spill covering a Heavenly song called “By the Way”. Twee in the style of rock.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW3RhU5AsuI

  12. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 1:41 am

    Hughes should have at least started the 8th, especially in a close game on the road. Oh well…it’s all just speculation now.

  13. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 1:42 am

    It is speculation, but I’m still emailing this thread to my sportsbook, maybe they’ll unwind my Yankee wagers from tonight? :oops:

  14. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 1:51 am

    Lol…sorry, broseph. I would avoid laying down on us with young Hughes on the hill. He’s too inconsistent, even if he was good tonight.

    I’m watching Yankees encore on YES. David Cone said “irregardless” (huge pet peeve!) right before Murphy’s game winning single in the 8th. Gramattical karma?

  15. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 1:55 am

    Disregardless of that Coney verbal gaffe, Hughes pitched well enough to win and the odds were decent, so them’s the breaks.

  16. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 1:59 am

    Btw, Gardy’s catch in the 6th (to rob Murphy) was the #1 play on Sportscenter’s top-10 :D

  17. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 2:00 am

    Ha, I just tweeted that out to my 18 followers.

  18. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 2:02 am

    Yep, dem’s da breaks. Until mañana…peace out.

  19. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 2:07 am

    Lmao…I have 9 :) It was a great grab and a tough loss! Have a good night.

  20. igotid88 May 28th, 2013 at 2:14 am

    yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 1:51 am
    Lol…sorry, broseph. I would avoid laying down on us with young Hughes on the hill. He’s too inconsistent, even if he was good tonight.

    I’m watching Yankees encore on YES. David Cone said “irregardless” (huge pet peeve!) right before Murphy’s game winning single in the 8th. Gramattical karma?
    ———————-

    I corrected him on twitter last December and he acknowledge it

  21. igotid88 May 28th, 2013 at 2:19 am

    yankeehotelfoxtrot May 28th, 2013 at 1:51 am
    Lol…sorry, broseph. I would avoid laying down on us with young Hughes on the hill. He’s too inconsistent, even if he was good tonight.

    I’m watching Yankees encore on YES. David Cone said “irregardless” (huge pet peeve!) right before Murphy’s game winning single in the 8th. Gramattical karma?
    ——————————

    I wouldn’t say too inconsistent. Take away his first 2 starts which were his spring training and he’s had 6 out of 8 great starts.

  22. CompassRosy May 28th, 2013 at 2:49 am

    Nick ~ you now have 19 ;)

  23. Mike Ri May 28th, 2013 at 6:55 am

    A little dissapointed in last night loss …. … Thats a team the Yankees should beat. Its basically the Yankees vs David Wright and we still could only muster one run

    We’re better than that

  24. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 7:28 am

    “We’re better than that”

    Not so much against left-handed pitching.

    We definitely need more help there.

  25. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 7:29 am

    Hughes looked even better than his last outing which was a bright spot.

  26. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 7:33 am

    Youkilis, Texeira, and Chamberlain will all be activated soon.

    Youkilis and Texeira should add some much needed punch against lefties.

    Guess they haven’t been able to find a taker for Joba.

    I’d delete Francisco and add some pop w Mustelier.

  27. mick May 28th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    I’d delete Francisco and add some pop w Mustelier.
    ==================
    you know he’s gone right?

  28. MaineYankee May 28th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    MTU

    I’d delete Francisco

    —————————————————

    Hard to delete him twice.

    In case you missed it he already has been DFA’d.

  29. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Sorry guys. Didn’t know that.

    Thanks for the update.

    Who filled his spot ?

  30. MaineYankee May 28th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    MTU May 28th, 2013 at 8:37 am
    Sorry guys. Didn’t know that.

    Thanks for the update.

    Who filled his spot ?

    —————————————–

    I think it was Huff.

    Got to run. Someone just hailed a cab. :D:

  31. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Thanks Maine.

    Hope you get a huge tip.

    :)

  32. fantasygame101 May 28th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    in a late tie game, you do not put a pitcher prone to giving up hr or walk if you have other option. So in the 8th, it is either Robertson or lhp bec. of two lefty and the pitcher spot. The situation last night calls for a lh reliever bec. the chances are you need extra inning to win bec. the closer against your bottom of the lineup is not a good match to score a run but you can not trust logan there, even logan’s strikeout was way off target.

  33. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Harvey would be a tall order for the 2007 Yankees offense, let alone this one. If we finish this 10-game road trip at only 5-5 after the way it started, it’s a disappointment to me. Then again, the way things looked before they left home, we would have all signed up for 5-5. Good news is that the way this year’s Subway Series plays out, we can only face Harvey once.

    That smell in the room? This offense is way past its “best if used by” date

  34. sunny615 May 28th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    lost to the Mets… 1 run. unbelievable.

  35. Tackelberry May 28th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    “A little dissapointed in last night loss …. … Thats a team the Yankees should beat. Its basically the Yankees vs David Wright and we still could only muster one run”

    Missed opportunities was the story of this game. 3 killr DPs, especially Stewart with the bases loaded in the 2nd inning. You keep letting a team hang around, you’re asking for trouble.

  36. austinmac May 28th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    The team simply has to score more runs to stay in contention. Wells is looking like–Wells of the past few years lately. Counting on him and Hafner to carry the offense is a problem. Ichiro is looking like he has the past two years, like a fourth outfielder. No power and an OBP of .280 for a corner outfielder is not workable.

    Too bad they are not getting any outfielders back any time soon.

  37. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Mac-

    Musty and Neal can both play OF.

    Musty can hit. And Neal has been putting up some really good #’s at AAA lately.

  38. MTU May 28th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Time to walk the Mop.

    later.

  39. austinmac May 28th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    MTU,

    I agree. Musty has been hitting very well lately and Neal has hit for average, at least, all year. Ichiro looks particularly ineffective against lefties. At some point they must accept reality with Ichiro.

    The problem is the roster. With Tex and Joba coming back shortly, I don’t think they will call anyone else up.

  40. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    If they win tonight, I’ll be thrilled with 1-1 vs. the Mets at Shea, knowing Harvey and Hughes pitched in separate games.

  41. longtimefan May 28th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Frustrating game last night, Hughes pitched good enough to win, offense didn’t show up, Cano is doing his regular disappearing act at the plate, he will then wake up for about 10 games tear the cover off the ball and disappear again. Robertson had a bad night, is a great set-up guy but doesn’t have the mental fortitude to be a closer. Joba is back, yeah, not really.

  42. 86w183 May 28th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Morning gang —

    Hope to see Boesch out there today and perhaps a night off for Wells. The Yanks need to sit Wells and Ichiro at least once a week.

    Gardner, Adams, Cano, Haffner, Overbay, Boesch, Ichiro, Romine, Brignac

    You’re gonna have losses like that, no big deal. They just need Tex and Youkilis in order to look a little less impotent versus LHP.

    If Tex and Youk both come back they’ll have to send Huff or Claiborne and Boesch out in order to have flexibility. Joba’s return probably means a departure for the other of Huff/Claiborne UNLESS they wait until after Nuno’s start and send him down.

  43. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    longtimefan – Frustrating is exactly the word I would use. I won’t be satisfied with a split against the Mets in this series, we should win it.

    Hoping Kuroda has a bounce back game. If anyone gives us the best shot against Harvey, it’s Kuroda. Absolutely cannot wait until game time.

  44. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    I didn’t think they looked completely impotent last night. They did have 9 hits, after all. But no one could avoid the DP grounder. Love to know why Wells swings at the first pitch so often. That’s one reason right there that we’d like Youk back.

  45. Mike Ri May 28th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    longtimefan ? Frustrating is exactly the word I would use. I won?t be satisfied with a split against the Mets in this series, we should win it.

    ___

    I agree Shame…..

  46. 86w183 May 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Eight singles and a triple (that should have been a single) against a guy with a 4.80 ERA is pretty impotent as far as I’m concerned.

  47. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    I know the Mets would never, but what could you get for Harvey in a hypothetical…?

  48. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Bottom line is they couldn’t capitalize against Niese.. hopefully we can find a way to get at Harvey tonight. I do think we at least have a good match up with Kuroda going, so we should be in it.

  49. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    86 – you’re right, no power numbers there. But at least we got guys on base. Not sure if it was more painful or less painful than it would have been if we didn’t at least get guys on.

  50. jacksquat May 28th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    austinmac May 28th, 2013 at 9:17 am
    MTU,

    Ichiro looks particularly ineffective against lefties.

    —–

    Ichiro is hitting .194 against rhp and .353 against lhp.

  51. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    there is no better elixir for Wright’s bat than the annual games against the Yankees. this guy could have just been given CPR on the shores of Hurricane Sandy, and he’d still Weekend at Bernie’s his way to a two-for-three against us. At least he won’t get the chance to embarrass CC this week.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    One of my least favorite things in the month of May – forecast for the week calling for 90 degrees and humid. Hello weather? You have May mixed up with August!!!! Thank you!

    ***********

    “Come on Hughes. Why can’t you pitch a 9 inning shut out? Lohud Trisha would love to keep the Phil Hughes experiment going but Hughes is giving up runs and he MUST be perfect to satisfy her.”

    I guess you didn’t get the memo pal. The new order on the forum is being able to have opinions on pitching and hitting without the “forum experts” intervening and telling us we have it wrong. If inconsistent pitching and long balls that would have been homers in the Stadium is your thing, go for it. I’ll never tell you not to. Don’t tell me I have to.

  53. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Shame, the Mets traded Tom Seaver…

    They also traded Nolan Ryan, but at the time, that trade wasn’t as demoralizing.

  54. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Doreen – IMO the Mets could do one of two things.. get a solid #2 to go with Harvey and hope to god Wheeler can be your #3 or #4 next season (I know Wheeler struggled early in the year but I haven’t checked up on his numbers recently) or trade like 3-4 players to bring in a haul and be willing to pay some FAs.

  55. mick May 28th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Yes, the memo of the Post-Montero Era is: Wait till they trade the next generational hitter.
    Better yet, Wait till the 1st 3 game losing streak (might come tonight).

  56. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    So quiet in here today… everyone hung over from the BBQs this weekend?

  57. jacksquat May 28th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Lefthanded batters have a .389 OPS vs Harvey…

  58. Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am
    I know the Mets would never, but what could you get for Harvey in a hypothetical…?

    —————–

    Anything they want

  59. Bo knows May 28th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    The only questions are, a)why pitch to Wright? b)why pitch inside, c) why four FBs in a row? It was a one run ballgame. The only thing that can hurt you is the HR. Brain cramp all around

  60. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am
    I know the Mets would never, but what could you get for Harvey in a hypothetical…?

    —————–

    Anything they want

    ————————

    Harvey for Trout! :D

    Actually, the Mets should really make a play at Hughes.. maybe Price.. either would slot well behind Harvey and if they also went after a guy like Choo and a couple complimentary pieces they could be in real good shape. They’d have to convince those guys to come though.. ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

  61. 86w183 May 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Harvey would get you as much as anyone in baseball…about like Bryce Harper… more than you’d get for Giancarlo Stanton.

  62. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    I love David Wright. :oops:

    (Ignore this Chad.)

  63. Ys Guy May 28th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    ” Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    I know the Mets would never, but what could you get for Harvey in a hypothetical…?”
    ===============================================
    alderson basically told francessa yesterday that the reason they didnt make a trade for j. upton was because they wouldn’t give up harvey.

  64. Ys Guy May 28th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    chad, the game posts are getting better and better. the audio is a great addition.

  65. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    I dunno that I’d do Harvey for Upton either.. but that’s only because of the years of control. I’d take 6 years of control of Harvey over 4 years of Upton.

    If I were a Mets fan firmly on Team Greedy I’d want them to keep everyone (not you, Ike Davis) and just buy a few people. If the Mets bought a few of the Yankee FAs they’d be in nice shape.

  66. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    I love David Wright, too. ;)

  67. Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am
    Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am
    I know the Mets would never, but what could you get for Harvey in a hypothetical…?

    —————–

    Anything they want

    ————————

    Harvey for Trout!

    Actually, the Mets should really make a play at Hughes.. maybe Price.. either would slot well behind Harvey and if they also went after a guy like Choo and a couple complimentary pieces they could be in real good shape. They’d have to convince those guys to come though.. ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

    ———————

    They could go after Hughes. He would get to stay in NY and pitch in a bigger park. I know the Mets made some changes to the stadium though.

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Shame, I’d like to have a discussion about something and I have a feeling you’ll at least think about it as opposed to immediately telling me I’m crazy and dismissing it out of hand. If I am onto something, there’s really nothing that can be done about it because it is what it is.

    So from the point when we knew we had a team that was exciting to watch, having fun, and doing a great job, I’ve had this nagging thought that won’t entirely leave having to do with the regulars coming back. Since we all know that I love any team the Yankees field and will root wildly for it, it has nothing to do with the players per se. But watching this year’s replacement team really made me realize just how the personality of the clubhouse has been so serious and almost stodgy all these years – and intense. I know that part of the Yankee teams we have come to know have seriousness and “winning is the only thing” as part of their repertoire. But an element of enjoyment and fun has almost been stripped away in the translation. When I think of the players who will eventually be coming back – except for Cervelli, who does have a sense of excitement about him – I’m almost dreading it.

    I’m also a little worried that the regulars coming back will just cause the team to morph back into what it had turned into. A 1B who has trouble hitting (though I love his fielding), a 3B whose better days have gone (IMO) but who will be up there swinging for the fences. I also worry that their personalities will overtake the new clubhouse persona because their cachet (real or imagined) demands it, and that the replacements who are playing will be intimidated, for lack of a better word, into morphing into the way of the old guard.

    I also wonder about how the knowledge that regulars will be coming back plays on the psyche of those who have been the replacements. There is no question that they came into Dodge knowing they were replacement parts. But since they have had continual playing time, do they start to tense up with the knowledge that their days may be numbered? We’re not talking consciously directed activity here. We’re talking about the way the psyche actually works. If you know you are potentially in your last week of a span of time where you have been front and center and leading the team, and once the week is up, you probably won’t be team leader anymore and may not get much play, are you still free and easy and out there doing the same great job, or are you starting to tense up because of what you know is coming and starting to lose your edge a little – not because you want to but because something else is taking over?

    Even though they are baseball players making good money, they are human beings first and foremost.

    I know that I tend to go to the outer limits of thinking on different issues, something I can’t help, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t something to the things I may be thinking.

    I’d appreciate any thoughts you may have on what I’ve said.

    I am concerned about all of the things I’ve mentioned. And as I started out with – it is what it is. I know it can’t be changed because the regulars are coming back at some point, and those are their positions, good bad or indifferent.

  69. Run it Out May 28th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Trisha..What are you going to do IF the Yankees sign Hughes following this season? You have flip flopped on Hughes for 3 seasons now.

  70. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    I don’t think it’s crazy to worry about the mojo of the team changing when the regulars come back.. it’s just hard to even be worried about it when we’re having such bad luck. IMO, the most important regular I’d like to see return is Jeter. Totally changes the way the line up looks. But he seems the furthest away. Arod isn’t much to be concerned with, because we already know they have no probably not playing him. Granderson…. smh, I just can’t believe he’s going to miss another month-month and a half. I’m actually very upset about that because he, like Jeter, was someone I was hoping would return because Ichiro really can’t play every day and I’d like to protect Wells a little more in that regard if possible..

    It’s really Tex that I think we’re talking about when we discuss a possible issue creeping in when the regulars return lol. I’m worried he’ll be slow to get started and that the fan base will be especially impatient with him given Overbays production. Youk… I dunno how much to worry about him. I have no attachment to him as a player/Yankee and as good as he looked in the early goings of the season I haven’t given him much thought. I can’t see them sending down Adams at this rate. I just don’t see it. I think it’s more likely they’ll extend Youk’s rehab assuming Tex is ready to go and that Joe will split time between Overbay and Tex early hoping Tex ends up forcing the issue for more playing time.

  71. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    they have no problem not playing him*

    ugh.

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Doreen, you might want to take a look at my previous post and see what you think about any of the things I’ve mentioned.

    *******

    Against, I never rooted for the Mets. I rooted for someone’s no hitter. Any time I hear about a no hitter in the majors, I am right there rooting for it unless it’s a Sux no hitter.

    I don’t live in or near NY therefore I don’t have the sense of the Mets-Yanks rivalry that those of you closer in proximity may have – and therefore the bad feelings. I don’t consider the Mets a rival since they aren’t even in the same league. I do live in the back yard of the Yanks’ historic rival, however, and so it is probably understandable that I have bigger issues with that team.

  73. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    They could go after Hughes. He would get to stay in NY and pitch in a bigger park. I know the Mets made some changes to the stadium though.

    ———————

    If I were Sandy and I had the cash I’d try for Hughes and a guy like Choo or Granderson.

  74. Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Run it Out May 28th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    Trisha..What are you going to do IF the Yankees sign Hughes following this season?
    ———–

    Root for him because he is on the team.

  75. Ys Guy May 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    the mets might go after hughes, but the guy who would help them the most is granderson.

  76. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    if we can’t count on some of these guys coming back at a high level, this will soon become one of those summers where we all look back in few years and lament “weren’t those first two months of the 2013 season fantastic?”

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    “Trisha..What are you going to do IF the Yankees sign Hughes following this season? You have flip flopped on Hughes for 3 seasons now.”

    Actually I have not flip-flopped on Hughes for 3 seasons. Last year is the first time I started having issues with his inconsistency and his penchant for the long ball. Before that I was solidly in his camp.

    If the Yankees re-sign him, I will of course hope for the best because his success is the team’s success.

  78. bruceb May 28th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Frustrating is exactly the word I would use. I won’t be satisfied with a split against the Mets in this series, we should win it.

    Yes, last night was frustrating, but to be honest, there is no reason to “expect” the Yanks to beat anyone right now. Their offense is severely challenged to say the least. Nix and Romine can’t hit and Ichiro is doing next to nothing. Cano and Wells are in mini slumps. Add to that the fact that you can’t play Hafner in a NL ballpark and you don’t have much at all.

    Niese is far and away the Mets’ second-best pitcher. Harvey is head and shoulders above him. Hughes had to pitch a shut-out for us to win last night and Kuroda may have to do the same tonight.

    Until reinforcements arrive, we are going to have to scrap and claw our way to as many one or two-run wins as we can. Winning a game like we did in extra innings against the Rays is a bonus.

  79. Run it Out May 28th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    AOO…You would but the question was directed to the flip flopper.

  80. Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 11:27 am
    They could go after Hughes. He would get to stay in NY and pitch in a bigger park. I know the Mets made some changes to the stadium though.

    ———————

    If I were Sandy and I had the cash I’d try for Hughes and a guy like Choo or Granderson.

    —————–

    They will have money to spend the question is will they spend it?

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    “Root for him because he is on the team.”

    Thank you.

  82. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    if we have to scrap and claw for another full month, it’ll feel great but we’ll be looking up from 3rd place

  83. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    “AOO…You would but the question was directed to the flip flopper.”

    I think he was answering for me because anyone who’s spent more than a cup of coffee here knows exactly how I rock and roll. Only those who are player groupies and can’t stand to have their favorite players questioned would think otherwise.

  84. Against All Odds May 28th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    You’re welcome.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    “‘if we can’t count on some of these guys coming back at a high level, this will soon become one of those summers where we all look back in few years and lament “weren’t those first two months of the 2013 season fantastic?’”

    Says it all.

  86. 86w183 May 28th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    I think it’s a waste of time to worry about how individuals will react if/when certain regulars re-join the team.

    Chances are someone else will be hurt along the way and the Yankees are never faced with the most difficult roster decisions before September 1.

    The only tricky ones from my standpoint are Youkilis and/or A-Rod moving out Adams and Teixeira replacing Overbay. Everything else will/should be straightforward.

    Otherwise Nunez replaces Brignac, Granderson replaces Boesch. No muss, no fuss.

  87. ron May 28th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    It is not the hr or nothing approach that hurt us with tex,granderson,swisher,it is the low ba that goes with it.
    Hr’s are great,and with a high ba to go with it,means that a hitter can do both.
    Low ba,and bad split numbers are to blame.
    You don’t wan’t to see a player batting .245,ops’ing .700 or under,regardless of the hr’s he gives you,especially if those numbers are against rh pitching.
    Also,you wan’t a balance,example being,you don’t wan’t a team that can’t hit lh pitching.

    The great yankee teams of the 90′s,or some of them had,a bunch of 15-20 hr guys,but they did everything well.

  88. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    I’m going to have to invent a keyboard that has a backwards “K” so youse can truly feel my rage when the KKKKings are back in the lineup

  89. bruceb May 28th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Weather forecast not good for tonight. We could be seeing young master Harvey at the Stadium tomorrow. Now that I would like.

  90. Captain Clutch May 28th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    I think the biggest question with the Yanks is going to be 3rd base. Youk is really not a 3rd basemen anymore and if he plays there everyday he will probably get hurt and his defense will hurt them. Adams has made a lot of plays recently that there is no way that Youk makes. In a perfect world it would be nice to keep Adams at 3rd and have Youk share time with Tex and Hafner at 1st and DH. But it doesn’t seem like that will happen since they don’t have room for everyone.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I’d really like to see what Boesch has to offer. If he could get enough playing time, it’s possible that they could groom him for the OF for some time to come.

  92. Captain Clutch May 28th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    I could see Boesch getting some playing time in RF. Some of Ichiro’s at bats aren’t even competitive. I think Girardi keeps him in there everyday because of his defense.

  93. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    I don’t know if Boesch does or doesn;t make that catch in Tampa, but Ichiro is personally responsible for that win…who knows how many losses his spaghetti bat caused…maybe none, but maybe a small part of all

  94. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Wells has been slumping for a month, not exactly mini. Hafner is in a slump as well, since sitting on the bench in COL: .205 .314 .386 .700

    Wells the past 27 games: .228 .264 .366 .630

    Cano the past 2 weeks: .233 .324 .450 .774

    When your top 3 hitters from the beginning of the season have cooled off you’re not left with much. Cano can be expected to return to form, but the same can’t be said for Hafner and Wells. The former because injuries could simply take their toll and he may continue on as a .260 hitter with a nice OBP but not the .300 guy he was in the first month. The latter because he has been terrible for 2 years so this may just be a massive market correction caused by his eroded skillset and lack of plate discipline.

  95. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Boesch is not a good player, and he doesn’t have very good skills (poor defense, speed, plate discipline, a bad swing). I’d rather they brought up Mustelier and gave him a shot. He is really hitting the past 2 weeks.

  96. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Trisha,

    First, I think you have to factor in your own affinity and natural inclination to root for the underdog. And this year’s team is the first time in a very very long time that you could root for the Yankees ant the underdog ant it’s the same team. :)

    I think most of us are a little worried that the chemistry of the team might change, but also, again, a natural tendency for most people is to,not want to rock the boat when things are sailing mostly smoothly.

    That being said, I d think that the team needs a bit of an infusion right now. Tey have all done an amazing job here, but their roles have been expanded and I think some fatigue is starting to show. I dont think Overbay ever thought he’d be playing everyday.

    The veterans that the Yankees brought in, even Youkilis, knew they were replacement players and took the job anyway. Ichiro knew he was not going to play everyday, same with Hafner and to some extent Wells. I don’t think the outfield is a concern as far as people coming back. They still might need an infusion of youth at some point, but first things first.

    Youk and Tex are on the foreseeable horizon. Girardi will surely have his work cut out for him. As will Cashman. Adams deserves to stay, but he can’t play shortstop and if something happens to Nix and they’ve let Brignac go, what do they do? Overbay deserves t stay, but how do you make him fit?

    I think things will work out. And as far as Tex goes, my opinion runs counter to most. I’m optimistic that he has taken the time in rehab to pay attention to some weaknesses. And I’m hoping that in tying to work out a healthy swing for his wrist, he may have hit upon some improvements. I also think Tex is a gamer. Two plays come to mind. Last year, running out a ground all and reinsurance himself (the one he was safe, but got called out). And the second one was in 2009, the game against the Mets when Alex popped up and the ball was dropped and Tex Scored. Plus Tex looks a lot leaner in the pix I’ve seen.

    I’m going to Trenton tomorrow am to see his rehab game.

    All in all, I’m optimistic, but there’s absolutely still the little bit of feeling that you don’t want to touch anything. I think what has been a good think is that tex and Youk were in the dugout recently.

  97. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Well, as Private Pyle said, we are “in a world of s***”

    Tonight would be a good night to start hitting again. Some millionaire, any millionaire, every millionaire, please

  98. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Tex may or may not have REINSURANCED himself, but I typed he REINJURED himself. LOL

  99. mick May 28th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    This team we have now has been a godsend but to project this over a 162 game schedule is not something I would want to do.
    We have no choice but to welcome back anybody who can help us and not worry about them changing the culture back to an all or nothing team.
    In fact it seems like Tex is the only one that people are fixating on at the moment.

  100. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    Wells has also hit some balls very well and had good plays made on them. Cano troubles me a little, but he may not be seeing many good pitches to hit, so there’s that.

  101. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Doreen – I think Cano is getting plenty of good balls to hit…he’s just not hitting good balls good. Is it him? Is it line-up support? Is it me and you? I don’t know. All I know is that other than his bunched homers and scorching start, he’s one of the culprits. Not the only one, for sure, but one of them.

  102. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I am concerned that Stewart has to play at a lot less than 100%.

  103. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Hasset,

    Well, yeah, and whatever the reason, he has to knock it off now.

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    “Wells has also hit some balls very well and had good plays made on them.”

    Yes. Unless you are the real Nostradamus, there is no way that anyone here can project what Wells is going to do based on what may be a slump. Guesses of course are always part of the game.

    I have no guess.

  105. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    yes, Cano god dammit, knock it off before I pull over and slap you

  106. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    I am concerned that Stewart has to play. :neutral:

  107. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    6-4 road trip with the way we hit > 5-5 road trip with the way we’ve pitched

  108. mick May 28th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    If anything, I see this team in the perfect storm, akin to when a pitcher comes in for the 2nd 1/2 of the season like Clemens and maybe Pettitte did in the past.
    If You stay close to till the All Star break you can look forward to Granderson relieving Wells, Cervelli for Stewart, Jeter for Nix, Arod for Adams , Youk and Tex.

    If we start to flounder a bit, most here will be praying for these guys to get back…

  109. Doreen May 28th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    I am not holding my breath for Jeter to get back; if Nunez makes it back that would help.

  110. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    I don’t want Grandy or Tex back no matter what happens. I do want Jeter and Youk back

  111. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Bad luck is part of being in a slump :) However a lot of Wells slump is his atrocious plate discipline. He is popping up and going after pitches way out of the zone with more regularity.

    Consider this: Last 27 games – 5 walks , 4.7%
    Previous 21 games – 9 walks, 10%

    Wells has never been a guy that really walked a lot. He is hitting 33% infield fly balls in May, thats crazy. He has to focus up. He is getting away from what made him successful in the first month.

  112. mick May 28th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Why won’t Jeter be back?
    His bone is healing as we speak and he will be back after the ASB.

  113. DONNYBROOK May 28th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Yanks vs Mets = roughly 32,000 paid

    Angels vs Dodgers = roughly 50,000 paid
    EMBARRASSING

    NO WAY Hughes can surrender that homer to Wright. Same goes for the Giants allowing Despedes to blow their game open late. Short of the bases being loaded, you pitch around these players in “game” situations. DUMB

  114. mick May 28th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Wells isn’t used to this playing load. He needs a break which Grandy would have provided. Same goes for Ichiro.
    This team will be better when all the regulars come back. The enfatuation period for this team is moving into reality time…

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    jerkface, exactly where do you get your insight and information regarding Boesch? The player whose time was cut down after coming back from a season-ending injury? His long post-surgery rehab? Do you know anything about his playing before that? If you do, why would you think that he couldn’t go back to being the player he was before he got hurt?

  116. bruceb May 28th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    I’m not worried about team chemistry. Send me back as many Big Hairy Monsters as you can, and as quickly as possible. I don’t like watching our offense being shut down by anyone, let alone the Mets.

    But for that miraculous comeback on Saturday, we’d be 1-5 in our last six games.

  117. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Does Despedes use “Desperado” as his walk-up music?

  118. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Is this a playoff team with Tex, Grandy, Youk and Cervelli back (but no Jeter and A-Rod)

    I don’t think so…in that scenario, I think the O’s offense and Johnson’s stabilization help them eventually take over first. Who knows what happens with Tampa (pitching woes), Red Sox (same) and Yanks…with Cleveland, KC & A’s lurking for the WC

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Can’t disagree with any of your observations. Could be that he’s pressing too hard to try to get it back. I agree he needs to re-focus.

  120. DONNYBROOK May 28th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Maybe he uses “Hotel California”?

  121. mick May 28th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Anybody can go into a slump. People fear that Wells is regressing back to the norm, that’s all.

  122. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Trisha,

    What do you know of Brennan Boesch outside of his wikipedia page? I get my insight by watching him and regularly conversing with tigers fans. He did injure his hand, but he was healed and playing in spring training the next year. Its not like he is a pitcher off shoulder surgery. In his amazing break out year, he had a very good first month and then ended up hitting .235 .309 .367 .676 the rest of the way. And his other seasons are more THAT than what he was doing prior to that. He did the same thing in 2010, just he was so much WORSE than the season wasn’t ‘break out’ level, he hit .168 .240 .235 .474 in the second half. And he hit just as poorly in the second half of 2012, he hit well in July then hit .222 .300 .315 .615 the rest of the way. And his time was hardly cut down, like he didnt get into 8 games in August. Which is understandable when you’re OPSing .640 and the team is trying to make the playoffs.

    He has bad tools, regardless of his performance. Bad plate discipline, swings out of the zone too much, bad defense.

  123. DONNYBROOK May 28th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Mets gave us the 1 run we had. Outstanding throw by Cano at the plate. Otherwise, it’s 3-0 yawner.

  124. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Wells isn’t used to this playing load

    He is a full time player on an elite contract, he is definitely used to playing everyday.

  125. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    And you know Boesch OPS’d .900 in spring coming off his surgery, Tigers fans were very optimistic at the time. He was healthy.

  126. mick May 28th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    wells last full season was 2010.

  127. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    He played full time in 2011, he missed 30 games to injury.

  128. mick May 28th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    wells will not hold up for a full season playing everyday.

  129. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    I know that he was a gold glove player and that he was rookie of the month several times when he came up and I know he was kicking ass for the Tigers until he got his injury and I know that his playing time was cut way back after he came back and that’s when is problems began. You seem to think that I don’t pay attention to baseball or to any other teams but the Yankees but I watch a lot of baseball and when I was playing fantasy baseball I was totally immersed in all of the other players. I remember Boesch when he came up and he was raking for the Tigers and his defense was fine. And then he got injured.

    I believe everything you say is premised on players you’d prefer to have and so you will overstate or misstate things for that purpose.

    Other than that, I think you’re right on target.

    Here’s hoping that the Yankees give Boesch plenty of playing time and that Boesch goes back to being the player he was when he came up. You nor anybody else can guarantee that he won’t be.

  130. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    His Wikipedia page? Let me take a look jerkface.

  131. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    And you’ve done such a fine job in your push for Montero and what’s happened with him that I think that I’ll just take your word for things from now on.

  132. mick May 28th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    He is a full time player on an elite contract, he is definitely used to playing everyday.
    ===================
    These are not mutually exclusive.

  133. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Boesch is not a gold glover, because he has bad foot speed and is not good at catching things. His problems began way before any playing time cuts. His playing time wasn’t cut when he hit .180 in the second half in 2010. Or .200 in 2011. He swings out of the zone much more than the league average, and he doesn’t have Cano’s gift with the bat to make up for it.

    Boesch injured his hand, that doesn’t affect his defense, and it has been bad every year in the majors.

    Here is a thing: “Due to his size and power potential, Boesch was a well-regarded college prospect at UC-Berkeley, even though scouts considered his defense “mediocre” and his bat “stiff,” according to a John Sickels rookie profile of him from 2010.”

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Oh yes, his Wikipedia page verified everything you’ve noted and more.

    :roll:

    Boesch played high school baseball at Harvard-Westlake School in North Hollywood, Los Angeles.[2][3] As a junior, Baseball America ranked him one of the top 25 prospects in the country.[4] He won the World Wood Bat Championship as a member of Team Baseball America, was selected Best Hitter at the Area Code Games, Best Power Hitter at the Team One Nationals and won the Daily News Invitational Home Run Derby. In his senior year he batted .490 with seven home runs and was selected First Team All-C1F and a First Team High School All-American for the All-American Game.[4]

    College career [edit]

    On the day University of California coaches came to scout him, Boesch swung at only three pitches – all for home runs. Highly recruited by professional scouts and colleges, Boesch chose the University of California, Berkeley, where he hit the ball out of the park in his first college at bat. Boesch played three years of college baseball at Berkeley from 2004–06. He was awarded All-Pac-10 first team honors as a sophomore center fielder.[5] He was the winner of the 2005 Clint Evans Award as the team’s best hitter and co-winner of the team award for most valuable player.[6]

    Minor Leagues [edit]

    Boesch playing for West Michigan in 2007
    Following his junior season, he was drafted in the third round of 2006 Major League Baseball Draft by the Detroit Tigers.[7]

    Boesch began his minor league career in 2006 with the short season Oneonta Tigers, where he was a NY-Penn League All-Star. With the Single-A West Michigan Whitecaps, in 2007, Boesch led all of Single A in RBIs and was third in hits. With the Double-A Erie SeaWolves, Boesch led the Eastern League in home runs (28) and won the MILB Round Trippers Award for leading all of AA in homeruns, en route to his selection by Baseball America as Best Power Prospect AA. With the AA Seawolves, Boesch was named the Seawolves’ Most Valuable Player, League Mid-Season All-Star, Post-Season All-Star, led the League in Total Bases (1st), Extra Base Hits (1st), Runs (4th), RBIs (3rd), and Boesch also won a Gold Glove as he led the League with 15 Outfield assists. Boesch was added to the Tigers 40-man roster and started the 2010 season with the Triple-A Toledo Mud Hens. After winning Tigers Minor League Player of the Month in his first month in AAA, Boesch was called to the Major Leagues on April 23, 2010.[8]

    Detroit Tigers [edit]

    2010 [edit]

    Boesch as a rookie at Dodger Stadium
    The Tigers called up Boesch from the Toledo Mud Hens to replace the injured Carlos Guillén on April 23, 2010.[9] Boesch made his major league debut the same day in a game against the Texas Rangers. Boesch hit a double off the left-field wall on the first pitch in his first major league at-bat.[10]

    Boesch hit his first major league home run—a grand slam off Los Angeles Angels pitcher Joel Piñeiro—on April 30. Coming in the same inning as Scott Sizemore’s first career home run, it was the first time two Tigers had hit their first career home runs in the same inning since Pop Dillon and Kid Elberfeld did it in 1901.[11]

    Boesch was named the American League Rookie of the Month for May and June 2010[12][13] and Tigers Player of the Month in June. In his rookie season Boesch topped all American League rookies with 14 home runs and 67 RBIs.

    2011 [edit]

    After placing sixth in American League Rookie of the Year voting, Boesch’s 2011 campaign began with him earning a starting position in the Tigers outfield. He started the season strong, leading the American League in June with 41 hits and a .380 batting average, but after establishing career bests with 75 runs scored, 121 hits, 16 home runs, and a .283 batting average, Boesch’s season ended when he suffered a torn ligament in his hand in early August. It was the first time in his baseball career that Brennan had been sidelined by a serious injury.

    His 2011–12 off-season focused on a long post-surgery rehabilitation, and Boesch started the 2012 season slowly. He had his best month in July, when he hit .295, with 4 home runs and 17 RBIs. But after July, with his playing time reduced, Boesch completed his season with a .240 batting average, 12 home runs and 54 RBIs. Against the White Sox, in two key games during the pennant race, Boesch hit two game-winning home runs off Sox lefty Chris Sale, the only home runs Sale gave up all year to a left-handed batter.

    Eligible for arbitration after three years of MLB service, the Tigers, in January, 2013, signed Boesch to a one-year, $2.3 million contract for the 2013 season.

    New York Yankees [edit]

    2013 [edit]

    On March 13, 2013, it was announced that Brennan Boesch was released by the Tigers.[14] On March 15, 2013, he agreed to a major league contract with the New York Yankees.[15]

    The Yankees optioned Boesch to the minor leagues in between games of a doubleheader on May 13, to fortify the pitching staff.[16

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    A real leper he is, with all of the weaknesses you’ve noted.

  135. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 28th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Have a great day all. I have little to no interest in having a typical jerkface debate because he has hopefuls stuffed in his pocket and therefore will fight to the death for them.

    :)

  136. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Now notice how the things in the wiki article form the basis for your argument. Oh he won a gold glove in the minor leagues (lol) I guess that means he is a gold glove type defender! Nope.

  137. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Notice that Boesch was at one point hitting .380 in 2011, and that dropped to .280 by the time he injured himself. Because pitchers can take him apart thanks to his poor discipline. He has power, no denying that, but he doesn’t hit line drives and smacks the ball into the ground more than most.

    He is a hacker and those types aren’t in the Yankee mold.

  138. RMS May 28th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    And with all the negatives regarding Boesh, Yankees signed him.

  139. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    And with all the negatives regarding Boesh, Yankees signed him.

    He does have more upside than the likes of Ben Francisco and Juan Rivera :)

  140. UnKnown May 28th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Yankees are just not hitting. You can spin it, flip it, turn it around anyway you would like to, BUT the Yankees are not hitting and really have not been hitting all season long.

    Getting back the guys on the DL will not hurt what little offense the Yankees are showing right now. And simply getting back guys like Tex, Al, Jeter, and Youk are not going to throw off our pitchers.

    Outside of a few timely hits, which were only made relevant because of awesome starting and relief pitching, the offense has been a train-wreck.

    I for one am really looking forward to mixing in some of the regulars.

  141. Nick in SF May 28th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    “I have little to no interest in having a typical jerkface debate because he has hopefuls stuffed in his pocket and therefore will fight to the death for them.”

    Is there any evidence that Jerkface’s motives are as thus described? Maybe his opinion about Boesch has more to do with Boesch than with unnamed phantom players. This type of characterization does nothing to advance the case for Boesch.

    Anyway, teams dump players with potential all the time and other teams pick them up, especially when the cost is low. Being a Cal Bear, Boesch probably has the intelligence to work on his deficiencies, but working on them isn’t the same as overcoming them. I wish him well.

  142. Run it Out May 28th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Youk and Tex should have the biggest impact of the injured near term returnees. Yankees are currently punchless against LH pitching. Wells has cooled and the rest are who they are.

  143. RMS May 28th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    He does have more upside than the likes of Ben Francisco and Juan Rivera

    —————————————————————————————————–
    Can’t argue with that.

  144. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Hey – If Wells’ season somehow keeps imploding like a popped blister, I say give Rivera a chance to rediscover his Yankee roots

  145. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    is this thing on?

  146. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    It may have taken a while, but the blog has officially OD’ed on arguments.

    Time of Death – 2:11 on Tuesday May 28, 2013.

    I’ll notify next of kin

  147. luis May 28th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Hassey,

    The mayority of the good posters rarely post here anymore… There are still a few that do, but the general level of conversation have taken a huge hit. It is sad, but that’s how it is.

  148. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Agon still tearing things up in LA… my goodness.

  149. bruceb May 28th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Is this thing on?

    The game or the blog?

  150. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    It looks like it’s raining more in NJ than Queens at the moment.

  151. ron May 28th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    You can read thousands of scouting reports about how great a player did in hs,or the minors,and they just plain stink.
    Doesn’t mean much til they are doing well in AA,and AAA,then in the majors.
    Boesch is also relatively young.

  152. bruceb May 28th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Sorry for lowering the tone around here. I’m just not that into sabermetrics.

  153. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    this morning I said it was a good thing they play the Mets 4x in a row, so Harvey gets to only pitch once. Now I wish the two 2-game series were broken up so, with a rainout, we might not have to face Harvey at all

  154. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Montero

  155. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    AJ Burnett

  156. luis May 28th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Is there a possibility of a rainout?

  157. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    all or nothing
    too many home runs
    hero swings

  158. luis May 28th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Bruce,

    Me neither… Wasn’t talking about posters like you or Shame or most of the regulars… I miss guys like CB, GLove, JAP, YF, LGY, and many others that used to post regularly that nowadays post very randomly

  159. luis May 28th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Even Blake and JF are not posting as often as they used to

  160. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Boesch just hasn’t been able to put things together and like JF says, wasn’t exactly a can’t miss prospect to begin with. I mean, he was a 3rd round pick, it isn’t even like he was a low 1st rounder or anything.

  161. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Hassey – The attempts to liven up conversation are much appreciated!

    We’re just coming off a holiday weekend, the NHL playoffs are crazy-entertaining, and the weather is warming up… I’m sure everyone will be back to argue soon. :D

  162. luis May 28th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Ron,

    Boesch is a much better option than Francisco or Rivera. But that’s not saying much. In any case, he needs to shorten up that swing and have a much more disciplined plate approach. If he manages to do that he could be very valueable dispite his defensive shortcomings

  163. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    I’m in a bit of a bind… I’m already thinking about what I plan to eat for dinner but I’m not sure when I should order it. I want my eating to coincide with the game beginning.

    Effing weather messing with all my eating plans.. *grumble grumble grumble*

  164. Russell Munson May 28th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    I think watching the way Matt Harvey is going to toy with this lineup may cause you to lose your appetite, so order now.

  165. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    I wish this team had some exciting players like Harvey. The young guys we have now like Phelps and Adams are simply ‘dependable’, but rarely flashy or exciting.

  166. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Russell Munson May 28th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    I think watching the way Matt Harvey is going to toy with this lineup may cause you to lose your appetite, so order now.

    ———————–

    I often come here while I’m eating, so I’m battle tested. :D

  167. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    I wish this team had some exciting players like Harvey. The young guys we have now like Phelps and Adams are simply ‘dependable’, but rarely flashy or exciting.

    —————

    I’m sort of hoping they’re on the rise.. I’m hoping guys like Murphy and Mason and Austin end up being the real deals.

    That being said, I do really look forward to Phelps’ starts. I like watching him make that no-nonsense face. Kinda squishes all his features together like a baby. It’s adorbs.

  168. Russell Munson May 28th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Who was the last really exciting player aside from “catchers” that got traded to Seattle? Joba? Watching him pitch in 2007 and most of 2008 was electrifying. We haven’t really had anything like that since then.

  169. luis May 28th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I hope so Shame ;)

  170. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I’m disappointed in most of the prospects so far. In terms of being able to impact 2014 it looks like guys like Austin, Flores, Heathcott, and Williams won’t be doing that. Maybe JR Murphy gets a shot, but the OFers are all struggling. Sucks.

  171. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    And given the way Girardi apparently breaks in catchers, even in Murphy got major league time in 2014, barring injury, it won’t be much.

    The transitory nature of this team’s roster at the moment is disheartening.

  172. Hassey May 28th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    we could see a perfect game tonight

  173. luis May 28th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    At the time, I was really excited to see Ajax on CF.

  174. austinmac May 28th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Luis,

    The worst problem with the board at this time is many are so very concerned about being right about every opinion. None of us has any power nor does anyone care what we think other than ourselves. Disagree all day, but does it really have to get personal? You are not such a poster.

    The other board turn off is the Montero issue. Let is go people. He is gone. If you want to become a Tacoma fan, go ahead. I didn’t want to see him traded, but he was. It is now a year and a half later, and guess what, he is still gone.

    I got over them trading Maris faster than many have gotten over a prospect’s trade.

  175. Russell Munson May 28th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    I think Austin’s numbers look disappointing because of Trenton. He’s got a pretty big split between home and road and is holding his own in AA at 21 years old. I wouldn’t count him out as an impact guy in 2014 yet.

  176. comet May 28th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Good post Austinmac!

    Greetings to all.

  177. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    JF – I was hoping someone would separate themselves from the pack at this point but you’re right, it hasn’t looked great. I always figured 2015 was a more likely target for most of the prospects but ultimately they need to get the shot (specifically talking Murphy/Sanchez here). The development at C has been a sloooooow process so I guess I won’t hold my breath but I’d like for them to push Murphy.

  178. Russell Munson May 28th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Tyler Austin at home: 207/.327/.244
    Tyler Austin on the road: .304/.402/.510

  179. bruceb May 28th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    No offense taken, Luis. I’ve been posting here for the last seven or eight years, but I tend to drift in and out. I’m also guilty of posting more when we lose than when we win.

    Every year before spring training I tell myself I’m not going to make the same emotional commitment to the Yankees. I did it again this year. Hey, they’re not going to win the World Series so why worry about regular season results?

    Then they lose 2-1 to the Mets and I can’t get to sleep because I’m so mad!!!

  180. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Trenton is a tough place to hit, but I don’t think a guy that is struggling to handle it ends up as an impact player in 2014.

  181. Jerkface May 28th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    And even Sanchez isn’t looking like a real elite hitter.

  182. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    @eboland11

    Teixeira and Youkilis both played in extended spring games today in Tampa. Looks as if both are headed to Trenton tomorrow

    —–

    I’d say to stagger their returns but if Youk can DH and give Haff/Wells some rest, so be it.

  183. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    :arrow:

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