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Nova a bright spot for Yankees, plus injury updates, Overbay situation

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 30, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ivan NovaIvan Nova really hasn’t had too many good moments since the first half of last season, but the 26-year-old righty was one of the bright lights on an otherwise dark night for the home team at Yankee Stadium Wednesday.

He was working in the long-lost game against the Mets, entering for the fifth with the Yankees trailing 8-1.  He allowed just one run and five hits with six strikeouts and only one walk across the final five innings of the 9-4 loss.

“I was throwing a lot of strikes and I was aggressive,” Nova said. “It’s a good one.”

In the eighth, he struck out the side, getting Ike Davis, Mike Baxter and Ruben Tejada swinging.

“The curveball was really good,” Nova said. “Once I get ahead, I go with my curveball. That’s my strikeout pitch.”

Nova knows he has to prove that he’s worthy of being put back in the rotation after posting a 6.48 ERA over four starts and then spending April 27 through May 23 on the DL with triceps inflammation and a back problem. He pitched into and out of a bases-loaded jam in the 10th inning and earned the win last Saturday at Tampa Bay in his first relief outing after returning. This second outing brought his ERA down from 6.11 to 5.16.

“I’m really excited about the way I’m pitching,” Nova said. “The way I pitched today, I’m pretty happy with myself.”

It would certainly be a boost for the Yankees if he can pitch like this consistently and regain the form when he went 16-4 as a rookie in 2011 or 10-3 in the first half last year.

Also, here’s the link to my story on last night’s game. The Yankees have scored just nine runs in the four-game losing streak. Here are updates on Mark Teixeira, Kevin Youkilis, Derek Jeter and Curtis Granderson. And I spoke with Lyle Overbay and he’s loving his time here and wants to stay no matter what the role after Teixeira’s return.

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238 Responses to “Nova a bright spot for Yankees, plus injury updates, Overbay situation”

  1. Macfan May 30th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Bleh, its the Mets, color me unimpressed.

    He only stands out because the Yankees have made the Mets look like world beaters, on the verge of getting swept 4 games by the Mets. Unbelievably embarrassing performance to one of the bottom tier teams in MLB.

  2. fantasygame101 May 30th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    mop up duty is different though. He could nibble again when he starts in a game. Plus I am not comfortable with him with high strikeouts outing, I would rather have him getting hitters to ground outs. More strikeouts and walks, less groundouts is the difference bet. his successful days and not.

  3. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    blake says:
    May 30, 2013 at 9:02 am
    MTU,
    Very sorry for your loss. Sounds like he lived a full and meaningful life though. We are slowly losing the WWII vets …..they really did save the world for all practical purposes

  4. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    In the eighth, he struck out the side, getting Ike Davis, Mike Baxter and Ruben Tejada swinging.
    ——
    very impressive, reminiscent of the time king Hubbell struck out…Well… wasn’t there but I read about it.

  5. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    For anyone who doesn’t believe a change of scenery can make all the difference for a player……see Davis, Chris

  6. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    MTU, my condolence for you lost.

  7. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    It funny how some things can be a form solace.

    Like coming here to a message board. To chat with people who you don’t really know but who you feel you do. Or escaping into the darkness of a movie theater.

    I’m sure many of us have done it when the need arose.

    We all need our escapes from the sometimes harsh realities of life.

    Baseball is certainly one of them. I’m grateful for them.

    :)

  8. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Nova could probably be a dominant reliever if his stuff is gonna play up like that…..

  9. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Blake/Cash-

    Many thanks. I appreciate the kind words.

    We owe a huge debt of gratitude to all of our Men and Women in uniform.

    Especially those from the Greatest Generation.

    My Uncle was one of them.

  10. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Whitson or Burnett really serve as better example than Davis, it could be a factor though. He is good example of a late bloomer.

    Barry Bond also blossomed in his late 30s, but he is more like a late late bloomer who benefited from change of scenery as well.

  11. Macfan May 30th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    In the eighth, he struck out the side, getting Ike Davis, Mike Baxter and Ruben Tejada swinging.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Oh “nose”, not Ike Davis, Mike Baxter and Ruben Tejada.

    Let Ivan Nova do this against Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder then I’ll be impressed.

    Still scratching my head at how the Yankees have made the Mets look like they can do no wrong. Now Mets fans will show up with brooms at Yankee Stadium and chanting “Lets Go Mets” Ugh, I think I’m gonna puke.

    A Mets team that will revert to losing once they stop playing the Yankees. Unreal stuff.

  12. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    MTU has a firm grasp on life….I’m honored that people once thought we were the same person :). Good guy

  13. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Nova has an excellent arm and great stuff.

    His main problem is FB command.

    If he can ever get that ironed out he’d be a world-beater.

    He’s still young. Though the clock is ticking.

  14. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    So can we trade excess pitching for a corner OF?

    My condolences, MTU.

  15. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Blake-

    We can be twin sons of different Mothers.

    I’m the older twin.

    Again, thanks for the kind words. As overly generous as they may be.

    ;)

  16. Hassey May 30th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    It’s never easy at any age, MTU, but all the schmaltz must help a bit

    By the way, has anyone seen Robinson Cano?

  17. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Thank you Rich.

    I appreciate the thoughfulness.

    Time to walk the Mop.

  18. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Ike does have a large nose, Maybe it functions as rudder to his swing. I will work on that premise and sent recommendations to Sandy.

  19. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Thanks Hassey. It’s just the reality is all.

    No one has found a way to get out of this life alive.

  20. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    I’m pretty excited for the upcoming draft…..I realize most don’t care but I’m a nerd so….

  21. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Sanchez is starting to mash at Tampa….hoping he gets to Trenton by July or so so hopefully Murphy heads to Scranton

  22. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    I am curious how this draft will work out for the yanks… multiple picks are certainly nice, but you really miss out the special physical specimen or ‘sure thing’ most years if you don’t get to draft top five. I hope they do their diligence and bring in some finds. luck is part of it then you wait for 3-5 years.

  23. Tackelberry May 30th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    MTU:

    Very sorry for your loss.

    ON the game last night. Obviously, its tough when your starter can’t get out of the first inning and puts you in a 5-0 hole right away. Can’t help but wonder if Nix doesn’t boot a routine DP ball and PHelps gets out of the inning if Phelps could have gotten it together the next inning with the score onlly 2-0. Seemed like he just didn’t trust his stuff though, as he got ahead of Wright 0-2 and tried to nibble instead of going after him. Same with Ankiel and then Davis.

    Also game might have been different if Brignac’s ball had carried out there in the 2nd as the score would have been 5-3 and Yanks right back in it. Thought that ball was out. Brignac hit another laser in the 6th there but Byrd ran it down, the inning the Yanks scored 2 runs. ALso inexcusable letting Stewart bat with 2 on in the 6th when Yanks had their last chance to make it a game. OH well, hopefully NUno helps save the Yanks the ultimate embarrasment of a 4 game sweep tonight. Hope Boesch plays again tonight to try and build off a 3-4 night.

  24. Tackelberry May 30th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:17 am
    I’m pretty excited for the upcoming draft…..I realize most don’t care but I’m a nerd so….
    ________________________________

    Me too Blake. Would love to see the Yanks come out of those first 3 picks with Kamminsky, Billy McKInney and SS Tim Anderson or Austin Wilson if he’s there. IN 2nd round, would love to see the Yanks grab OF Jordan Paroubeck if he’s still on the board. Young H.S. outfield with a ton of upside. By the way, my apologies for ragging on you for using the word ‘yuck’ yesterday. Nothing personal, just always hated that word.

  25. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    i feel extremely fortunated and blessed as yankee fan to have Stewie, unfortunately cloning has only been limited to governmental use so far. Clutch hitter, gritty and a stalwart behind the dish. Having 9 stewie on the field would simply be awesome as well 9 Tejada.

    what can i say, just a baseball player to paraphrase Joe, we won’t go Nixey til a later date.

  26. Hassey May 30th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    I don;t think Phelps is hurt or they wouldn;t have let him start

    I just think there is somethign about the mound at YS that doesn;t agree with him. He stinks at home.

    I hope the Yanks manage to score tonight because Wright is gonna eat Nuno alive

  27. blake May 30th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    “Me too Blake. Would love to see the Yanks come out of those first 3 picks with Kamminsky, Billy McKInney and SS Tim Anderson or Austin Wilson if he’s there. IN 2nd round, would love to see the Yanks grab OF Jordan Paroubeck if he’s still on the board”

    It’s so unpredictable after you get last the first few picks or so…..really hope they can hit on at least one (hopefully more) of those first rounders. The yanks have done a nice job in recent years at getting value later in the draft…..now they need to start making those higher picks count.

    Girardi doesn’t have any more friends with kids in the draft this year does he?

  28. tomingeorgia May 30th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Mister MTU,
    Lost an uncle not long ago. He was a carrier-based aviator in most of the battles of the Pacific war. He was in his 90s, sharp as a tack. Had a stroke and was gone in minutes. I miss him, and I’m sorry for your loss.

  29. Bo knows May 30th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Now, now – DBJ is starting to look like his former self.

    It’s really difficult to for someone like me to understand such heavy duty struggling and the sudden breakout. Always subscribed to the KISS principle of baseball, less things to get out of whack.

    Love Long’s coaching – simple repeatable mechanics.

  30. DONNYBROOK May 30th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    - THURSDAY MUSINGS -

    (1) What is with Girardi and his love affair with Nix? 1st, he starts Nix at SS over Brignac vs righties, and then once Brignac makes his defensive superiority Obvious to a blind man, Girardi goes and shifts his “baby” to 3B, and starts him over Adams last night. Of course, Nix Immediately turns inning 1 into a disaster movie. Adams should be playing Everyday till the cavalry arrives. Nix is, and always will be a utility player.

    (2) Boesch had a very good game with the stick, but what was up with that 3 Hop Throw to the plate from Medium RF? The ball was a 1 hop line drive, hit directly at him. Any All Star Little Leaguer can make that throw on-the-fly. Boesch does it on 3 bounces, allowing a runner to score from 2B with less than 2 outs, and the game at that time was still in doubt. Weak.

    (3) I would deal Nova ASAP. The guy is a 2013 version of Juaquin Andujar, except Nova has accomplished NOTHING at the MLB level. I like players with a degree pf attitude, but there is a difference between attitude and Grandiose.

    (4) Brignac continues to shine at SS, and his bat makes me hopeful of things to come.

    (5) Stewart continues swinging a broken bat, and the balls to the backstop are beginning to pile up.

    (6) Again, NO WAY I shell out the coin for Cano. He’s in a position to lead Now, and all he does is flail away at the plate. He added another “tack on” RBI last night, the kind of which got A-Rod villifiied back in the day.

  31. astrocityfan May 30th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Sorry for your loss MTU. My dad served 4 1/2 years in europe during WW2. He was in the third army under Patton, went through the Battle of the Bulge and saw a concentration camp shortly after it was liberated. He never thought of himself as a hero but i always did.

  32. blake May 30th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    “It’s really difficult to for someone like me to understand such heavy duty struggling and the sudden breakout”

    It’s a tough game

  33. austinmac May 30th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    MTU,

    Sorry for your loss. It sounds like he had a life well lived. What else can we ask for?

  34. astrocityfan May 30th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Dony,
    i tend to agree about Nova. Let him get a few good games done then package him and Joba maybe? Buster Olney mentioned the Pirates as a landing spot for joba the oter day but i have no idea what they have that we would want.

  35. blake May 30th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    “Sorry for your loss MTU. My dad served 4 1/2 years in europe during WW2. He was in the third army under Patton, went through the Battle of the Bulge and saw a concentration camp shortly after it was liberated. He never thought of himself as a hero but i always did.”

    Uhm yes he was a hero

  36. astrocityfan May 30th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Thanks Blake. He was in the artillery and so he always a few miles behind the front lines. He always said the infantry did the heavy lifting , he just supported them. Still i cant imagine what they all went through.

  37. Kelvin May 30th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    I think Joe should be Manager of the year, Cash maybe even Executive of the year too. It really is amazing to be in first place, tons of fun to watch these Yankees play.

  38. jacksquat May 30th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    pat May 30th, 2013 at 7:52 am
    but this from the NY Daily news will make some happy……

    “Brian Cashman confirmed Wednesday that Adams isn’t going anywhere, and until the Yankees know Teixeira can stay healthy for the long run, it’s hard to imagine them letting Overbay go.”

    Good.

    Hopefully they realize that if Teixeira got hurt again, it would be Youk full time at 1B (if healthy), Adams full time at 3B, and they wouldn’t have a good DH vs LHP again until Arod gets back.

  39. bruceb May 30th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    My sincere condolences too, MTU.

    Yanks had a real chance to get back in the game last night in the sixth inning but instead of having Ibanez and Posada up, it was Brignac and Stewart. Yuk (as this seems to be the in-word of the last 24 hours).

    All these injuries were bound to catch up with us some time. Just a pity that it had to be against the Mets, whose whole year evolves around beating the Yankees. As a previous poster noted, they will no doubt revert to type as soon as their plane touches down in Miami tomorrow (although my Little League team could beat the Marlins). Maybe it’s a good thing to have such low expectations each year?

    Funny how things change so quickly in baseball. On Monday, all the talk was about how Tex was going to take at-bats away from Overbay. Now it seems that he and Youk can’t arrive quick enough.

    I don’t expect any quick fix from those two. Confidence has been shaken by those two heartbreakers in Flushing and we may take a few more steps backward before going forward again.

  40. Bo knows May 30th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    It’s a tough game

    They make it tougher then it really is. Too complicated,

    It’s all about the belly button. Balanced and centered. To me it started with dropping the back shoulder.

  41. blake May 30th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    ” Still i cant imagine what they all went through.”

    I really can’t either

  42. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Thanks to all of you for the kind words.

    Much appreciated.

  43. comet May 30th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    MTU very sorry to read of your loss. You are in my thoughts amigo!

  44. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Blake-

    My Father fought at Anzio among others and helped liberate the camps.

    I asked him about his experiences but he was stoic and would never really speak about them.

    My feeling was that he wished to spare us from the horrors of what he experienced.

    As someone once said, “Where do we get such Men ?”

  45. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Thanks Comet.

    I’m sure I’ll be meeting up with him again.

  46. DONNYBROOK May 30th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Somebody tell the YES announcers that we could give a crap about Ike Davis and his struggles. These chuckle heads have been going on for 3 games now about Ike and his travails. He ain’t a Yankee, move on.

  47. longtimefan May 30th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Everyone knows that everything starts with pitching, starting pitching and relief but a team also needs an offense. Look around the only regular member of the infield from last year is Cano, great fielder, streaky on offense, either really good or chasing everything close to the plate. Stewart has always been a back-up for a reason, move to the outfiedl Gardner great defense, not so much on offense, at this point in time should be a better bunter but for whatever reason is not, Ichiro, who really knows how old, looks like he is done, but the boys like his marketing money so he will stay around all the rest are either other team cast offs or retreads, the ownership is really not serious about winning any type of championship with what they are putting on the field and if you look around the stadium it is showing in the lack of turn out, looks like the corporate concept isn’t panning out. To lose the last 3 games to the Mets looks like an omen of things to come and Youk and Tex are not enough to save a sinking ship., even if they manage to stay on the field.

  48. Jerkface May 30th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Ichiro, who really knows how old,

    He is 39, you can find his age on bbref. Hope this helps!

  49. blake May 30th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    “As someone once said, “Where do we get such Men ?”

    I was a history minor in college and actually took 2 classes specifically on WWII as electives (I know I know)…..I was always fascinated by it and always wondered how those kids did what they did.

    War is always a touchy subject as they are fought for different reasons but that one was necessary and was against a true evil…..there is a reason that generation is considered great…..

  50. Jesus Bustero May 30th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Would it be possible however improbable to get Hunter Pence in here? He’s a well rounded ballplayer, righty, in his prime, consistent, workman type.

    The Giants actually could use a starting pitcher if you can believe that.

    Would you trade Nova for half season of Pence?

  51. blake May 30th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    “Would you trade Nova for half season of Pence?”

    Of course but I don’t think the Giants woukd….he was sorta their emotional leader last year and I doubt they need with that mojo. They will probably just sign Hughes in the offseason

  52. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Blake-

    They were also the children of the Great Depression.

    Another thing that was not easy to survive.

    People sometimes forget just how hard Life can be.

    Some are luckier than others.

    We are all a product of our experiences.

    My life was made so much easier because of them and their sacrfices.

    I try never to forget that.

  53. NYYROC May 30th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Re: the WWII generation. Read Tom Brokaw’s book The Greatest Generation (I think that is title). Read it years ago. Great, true stories of the people of that time and the sacrifices they made.

  54. fantasygame101 May 30th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    when will girardi realize that he needs to pinch hit for his catcher late in the game with runners on and not with bases empty. He does not have a star catcher so use the bench in those situation.

  55. Jerkface May 30th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    He doesnt want to hurt Stewart’s confidence

  56. astrocityfan May 30th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    MTU,
    I had the same experience with my dad regarding his war stories. He talked a lot of his friends and shared some of the circumstances but hardly ever talked about the worst he saw. I can only remember once when he actually talked about the horros he saw in the camp. Part of it was he didnt want to dwell on it but part of it was he just didnt want me to dwell on it. I guess everyone wants to protect their kids.

    Funny story, he was set to get out of the army in ’41. He turned in his uniform on a Fri and was waiting for a train to take him from NY where he was stationed, back to NC on a Monday. Well the Sunday in between was Dec 7, 1941. Needless to say, he missed that train and served another 4 1/2 years.

  57. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    sooner or later the injuries will catch up to them & you can only play over your head for so long..problem is that the players that are coming off injuries might not be able to stay healthy themselves….

  58. G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    MTU,

    Sending my thoughts your way as well.

  59. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    look at all their position players and if they were not playing for the NYY right now would be playing somewhere else….

  60. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Astro-

    Talk about timing. Thank God he survived.

    Those folks were extremely stoic. Their bravery was only exceeded by the love of their Families.

    The one thing that was evident from my Father’s experiences is that he refused to buy ANY German
    products after the War.

    And he wished me to follow his lead. Which I did gladly and w/o hesitation.

  61. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Thanks G. Love. Much appreciated.

  62. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Jesus Bustero May 30th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    Would it be possible however improbable to get Hunter Pence in here? He’s a well rounded ballplayer, righty, in his prime, consistent, workman type.

    The Giants actually could use a starting pitcher if you can believe that.

    Would you trade Nova for half season of Pence?

    ——————————-
    how about Alex Gordon…would a Gardner & Joba do it ?

  63. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    I would toss in Cervelli & Youkilis

  64. luis May 30th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Good morning still,

    MTU… My friend, I am really sorry for your loss… As you said, eventually you will meet again… My best wishes to you and your family

  65. G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    I don’t think we’re getting a real major league piece for Joba. I think the strategy in any trade of him should be to get AA or AAA pieces that are blocked in other orgs.

    We don’t have room on the roster for more players. There’s nowhere to put everyone.

    Unless we can pry a starting catcher for him. Right now you have Gardner, Ichiro and Wells under contract. I think the team views Boesch as a keeper going forward into next season.

    I think Adams has put a claim in on an IF spot. And trading Joba for another middle reliever to take up a 25 spot is pretty silly.

    I do think he’s getting dealt though. I think the Yankees want to move on and have no plans to sign him after this season.

  66. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Thank you Luis.

  67. Jesus Bustero May 30th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    How about Robinson Cano for Ryan Zimmerman and move Adams to 2B? Nats would promote Rendon to 3B.

    Zimmerman 121 career OPS+
    Cano 124 career OPS+

    Zimmerman is 2 years younger and locked up through age 35 at about 17 million AAV
    Cano would need to be locked up through age 39 or 40 at about 25-27 million AAV

  68. astrocityfan May 30th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    MTU,
    I think i inherited his timing lol. My dad always talked about the russians and how Germans would rather surrender to the Americans because of the way they were treated by the Russian soldiers. He always said they shouldve let Patton go all the way to Moscow.

    AS for baseball, looking o nthe bright side of the tex youk return, at least they will see a lot of pitches right? :) i’d trade nova plus joba for Gordon but i doubt the royals would make him available for anyone.

  69. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    “I do think he’s getting dealt though. I think the Yankees want to move on and have no plans to sign him after this season.”

    I think our freind Pat M. said Joba was being actively shopped but the returns were not good enough so far.

    I’m of the belief as well that Joba is a goner at some point.

    Perhaps the change of scenery will do him good. Maybe he can thrive elsewhere.

  70. 86w183 May 30th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    MTU —-

    Let me add my condolences. I lost my father-in-law days before 9/11. He landed at Normandy on day six and fought in the Battle of the Bulge. However he was an inherently shy man who did not like to talk about his experiences aside from a funny anecdote or two.

    We are blessed to have known men who went through that hellish experience.

    They are all heroes to be honored forever.

  71. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Sorry for your loss MTU, sounds like he had a great life.

  72. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    And belated condolences for you tomingeorgia too.

  73. astrocityfan May 30th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Jesus that is out of the box thinking and an interesting proposition. I dont think management would consider letting Cano go. i am intrigued though.

  74. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Astro-

    I can understand that POV re: the Russians and Germans.

    I agree w you. Don’t see Gordon as available.

    If they want to go that route they should take a look at Headley.

    He might be much more obtainable.

  75. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    “how about Alex Gordon…would a Gardner & Joba do it ?”

    The Royals need outfielders. Why would they trade their best one? They also don’t really need relievers considering their relievers have an ERA of 3.26.

    And who is your center fielder when you trade Gardner? Boesch?

  76. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Jesus Bustero May 30th, 2013 at 11:35 am
    How about Robinson Cano for Ryan Zimmerman and move Adams to 2B? Nats would promote Rendon to 3B.

    Zimmerman 121 career OPS+
    Cano 124 career OPS+

    Zimmerman is 2 years younger and locked up through age 35 at about 17 million AAV
    Cano would need to be locked up through age 39 or 40 at about 25-27 million AAV

    —————————-
    do it and get Alex Gordon also..two nice players to build the team around

  77. luis May 30th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Back to baseball,

    1) Every now and then pitchers have clunkers… Last night was one of them for Phelps, nothing more… He is not injured, otherwise he wouldn’t have taken the mound… His velo was about right, but he didn’t have a good command and was hurt by a key error by Nix… I wonder what would have happened if Nix makes that play.

    2) MG… Very good posts in previous thread about Nova… Yes, he needs to be working on his mechanics down in triple A….Not being wasted as a long man up here… Having said that, he did a very good job last night.

  78. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    “how about Alex Gordon…would a Gardner & Joba do it ?”

    The Royals need outfielders. Why would they trade their best one? They also don’t really need relievers considering their relievers have an ERA of 3.26.

    And who is your center fielder when you trade Gardner? Boesch?

    —————————————
    for a price anyone can be traded, it’s happen over and over again

  79. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Ryan Zimmerman’s having major issues throwing this year. Not sure what’s up with him, but he could be available because of that.

    I’d be surprised if the Yankees make a move for a 3B without giving A-Rod one more chance to show them something this year though. They are stuck with him so they may as well see if he still has anything left.

  80. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    maybe Arod will be a good guy and ride off

  81. blake May 30th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    You’re not getting a good big league player for Joba…..Id try to trade him to a team that needs Pen help and that has some upside prospects that they could part with .

    The braves need pen help and have a SS in A ball with a lot of potential and he’s blocked by Simmons

  82. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    I just can’t see Arod DHing for the NYY 3 years from now

  83. Shame Spencer May 30th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    MTU – I’m so sorry for your loss. My great uncle was a part of one of the parachute infantry regiment in WWII.. from what we know, he didn’t even make it to the ground alive. The Greatest Generation seems like a good way to describe them.

  84. Shame Spencer May 30th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    blake May 30th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    You’re not getting a good big league player for Joba…..Id try to trade him to a team that needs Pen help and that has some upside prospects that they could part with .

    The braves need pen help and have a SS in A ball with a lot of potential and he’s blocked by Simmons

    ——————

    Remember when me and Chip (tipping my hat to Chip, since he started it) wanted to try and get Murphy from the Mets? I think Joba was thrown around in some of those packages (along with countless others!!).

  85. blake May 30th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Zimmerman will be playing 3B as soon as Laroche is gone if not before….his throwing is a real problem at 3B

  86. blake May 30th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    1B I mean

  87. sunny615 May 30th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    yankees are sinking quickly…

  88. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    The Cardinals are another team that could probably use Joba and their farm system is loaded. Maybe you can get one of their lesser prospects who’d still be a pretty decent one.

  89. blake May 30th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    “Remember when me and Chip (tipping my hat to Chip, since he started it) wanted to try and get Murphy from the Mets? I think Joba was thrown around in some of those packages (along with countless others!!).”

    Chip has been trying to trade Joba for years…..I remember when he wanted to trade him for then Mike Stanton

  90. luis May 30th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    G Love,

    I agree that the Yankees will move on on Joba…And your line of thought is very sound… But I would try to trade him for a prospect… That’s better than nothing… I don’t see them offering a qualifying offer to him ( he probably would take it ), so there won’t be a comp draft pick…

  91. blake May 30th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Russell Munson says:
    May 30, 2013 at 11:54 am
    The Cardinals are another team that could probably use Joba and their farm system is loaded. Maybe you can get one of their lesser prospects who’d still be a pretty decent one.

    Then Of course Dave Duncan would make him a 20 game winning starter

  92. G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    You have to keep in perspective that Joba is a rental to another team. He’s not going to net them a pick as no one would offer him the qualifying offer.

    The return for him will be small unless he’s a throw in with other players/prospects in order to get a deal done a la Melky in the Vazquez trade years ago.

  93. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Shame-

    Thanks. And I’m sorry about your Family’s loss.

    The term was very appropriate IMO.

  94. blake May 30th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    You might could get a decent Lower level prospect for Joba from somebody but I don’t know if the yanks will trade him for that

  95. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    The Cardinals would be an excellent landing spot for Chamberlain.

    He’d be pretty close to home.

    I agree w those who say Joba should be part of a package.

    By himself I don’t think he nets you much.

  96. luis May 30th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Just one thought about WWII and other wars…. Anyone that goes to a battlefield for me is a especial person… That requires a level of courage that is worth admiring… But yeah, that was a true “just cause”…. But they didn’t finish it, they should have gone to Moscow and finish it up.

  97. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Maybe if Joba stays healthy and pitches well for a while he can re-establish some value.

    Then they can try to move him at the TD.

  98. luis May 30th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    One more thing about Nova,

    I read i few posts in the previous thread suggesting that Nova should be turned in to RP… You do that with a failed SP… He is far from that still and his upside is still very good… And we have plenty of good depth on the relief corps department

  99. luis May 30th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    G Love and Blake…. I agree

  100. G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Nova needs to go to AAA to start every 5 days. He’s honestly earned his ticket there as the last great stretch we’ve seen out of him as a SP was 1 year ago last June. After an amazing June, the wheels fell off for him. I don’t romanticize what he did against the Mets last night as that team has no business hitting anyone other than David Wright.

  101. Shame Spencer May 30th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    blake May 30th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    You might could get a decent Lower level prospect for Joba from somebody but I don’t know if the yanks will trade him for that

    ——————

    Pat M. intimated they wanted him gone but that Cash wouldn’t settle for just any return….. I dunno what kind of return you could really expect for a 7th inning reliever with less than a year of control on him, so I thought that was kind of weird. Then again, it sounds very typical of Cash lol.

  102. luis May 30th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Nova needs to go to AAA to start every 5 days. He’s honestly earned his ticket there as the last great stretch we’ve seen out of him as a SP was 1 year ago last June. After an amazing June, the wheels fell off for him. I don’t romanticize what he did against the Mets last night as that team has no business hitting anyone other than David Wright.

    ================================

    Yes… keeping him here as 2nd long man makes little sense IMO… Bo knows gave a reasonable explanation as of why… But after a couple of days, it is clear to me that both Kuroda and Phelps were/are healthy… So is shortsighted to keep him up here… He should be working on his mechanics, if he manages to gain a consistent delivery, he will be very good

  103. Shame Spencer May 30th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t dislike the thinking from Cash, either, just to be clear. I’m glad he wants to get the most bang for his buck so to speak… but Joba is kind of a weird guy to take that approach with IMO.

  104. CountryClub May 30th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Every team goes through a rough stretch or two. The Yanks will be fine. They just lost 2 games where their starters gave up 1 run over 14 innings. Robertson and Mo had back to back bad games? How often will that happen over the rest of the season?

    Youk and Teix will help the O.

    They’ll be fine.

  105. blake May 30th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Trading Joba only helps if :
    1) he’s part of a bigger trade for an impact player
    2) it’s a rental for rental swap for something else they need like a bat
    3) if you’re trading him for a prospect that has the potential to fill a spot down the road.

    Giving him away makes them worse

  106. CountryClub May 30th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    If Joba comes back and pitches well, he may be more valuable as their 7th inning guy than he would be in a trade. As others have said, I’m not sure what you could expect back for him. It might be different if he wasnt going to be a free agent at the end of the yr.

  107. luis May 30th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Shame and Blake,

    Any return is better than no return… But, he could have more value helping this team go in to the PS than we might get in return for trading him…So in this case Cash seems to be right…. But I would explore options, I would hate to see him go without any other compensation

  108. G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    I don’t think I trade Joba unless someone offers something that makes a lot of sense.

    If Robbie or Mo (god forbid) go down Joba is needed. He’s more valuable to a contending team like ours in that scenario.

    That said, if some team offers up something good for him you jump at it as we have depth and quality in the pen right now.

  109. Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    My condolences MTU

  110. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    I doubt very much any Team would offer up something good for Chamberlain as it stands right now.

    As I mentioned, if he is able to saty healthy from here on till the TD, and pitch well that might change things a little.

    FWIS, he is better included as part of a larger package. If not, as others have said, he might actually be more useful to us.

    I don’t think he has much of a place on the Yankees anymore.

    We have several guys who can do what he does and do it more inexpensively.

  111. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Much appreciated AAO.

  112. mick May 30th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    so now i am getting calls from “yankee stadium execs” who want my business?
    Hal…abandon the 189!!!!!
    (btw we know it’s a ploy to keep cano’s salary in line)

  113. MTU May 30th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    I’m out.

    Have a great day everyone.

    Once again, my thanks to all of you for the kind words and well wishes.

  114. blake May 30th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Joba and a prospect to rent Morse woukd be ok

  115. mick May 30th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    He is not injured, otherwise he wouldn’t have taken the mound…
    =====================
    You cannot state that uncategorically as you do not know.
    He might have been hurting but not hurt…

  116. Cashmoney May 30th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    You cannot state that uncategorically as you do not know.

    (btw we know it’s a ploy to keep cano’s salary in line)
    ——–
    Mick, do you just make it up as you go along?

  117. mick May 30th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    please explain?

  118. mick May 30th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    why bother, right?

  119. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Braves are right now looking for a RP or two…

  120. mick May 30th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    seeing many more metsies in their team gear past few days, wonder why?
    phonies…

  121. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    joba for Tommy La Stella

  122. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    I find Mets fans are a lot less rambunctious when you remind them about 2000.

  123. bruceb May 30th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Don’t look now…but the Rays are making up ground hand over fist while they beat up on the Marlins. Looks like a four-team race for the AL East this year. I’m counting out the Jays due to their starting pitching. Is there something physically wrong with Dickey or was he a one-season wonder?

  124. mick May 30th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    met fans are a bitter beaten lot….

  125. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    I smell a sweep

  126. mick May 30th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Looks like a four-team race for the AL East this year.
    ==============================
    much like last year
    entire division should be over 500 this time tho

  127. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    bet the Mets your getting 155 for 100

  128. mick May 30th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    i dont

  129. blake May 30th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Russell Munson says:
    May 30, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    I find Mets fans are a lot less rambunctious when you remind them about 2000.

    Or every year since

  130. bruceb May 30th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    I do. Mets have all the momentum and while Gee sucks, Nuno will be under a lot of pressure. Going to be interesting to see how the young man handles it.

    Perhaps the impending arrival of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid will prompt Ichiro and his fellow strugglers to get the ball out of the infield tonight.

  131. Shame Spencer May 30th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    There’s no reason to believe the Mets will sweep… but there was also no reason to believe they’d take the series lol. I’d love to see Nuno deliver a solid performance tonight.

  132. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    NYY in the majors are 18th in BA & 17th in RS….good thing they pitch well

  133. blake May 30th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    @jnorris427: SI’s mock draft has the Yanks taking Manaea, Wilson, Ziomek. #Yankees

  134. blake May 30th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    @jnorris427: FWIW, Mr. Klaw has #Yankees going with McKinney, Jagielo and Serrano.

  135. Captain Clutch May 30th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    This is sad….

    The Houston Astros as a team have a .247 BA and .305 OBP, the New York Yankees as a team have a .249 BA and .310 OBP.

  136. blake May 30th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    “The Houston Astros as a team have a .247 BA and .305 OBP, the New York Yankees as a team have a .249 BA and .310 OBP.”

    That’s how good Yankee pitching has been

  137. Captain Clutch May 30th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    I think Cano should get tonight’s game off and Boesch should play RF. If Ichiro wants to play everyday he has to show a pulse. It’s obvious that Boesch’s defense isn’t great but they can deal with it if he will hit a little bit.

  138. tomingeorgia May 30th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Just saw a tv ad for Walmart, guaranteeing a job to any honorably discharged veteran, with a goal of 100,000 jobs, minimum. That’s putting your money where your mouth is, wouldn’t you say?

  139. blake May 30th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    “Just saw a tv ad for Walmart, guaranteeing a job to any honorably discharged veteran, with a goal of 100,000 jobs, minimum. That’s putting your money where your mouth is, wouldn’t you say?”

    That’s cool

  140. blake May 30th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    @jnorris427: MINOR MATTERS: Cashman talks Adams, Pineda, Cervelli, Granderson http://t.co/Wb2IUDty8A #Yankees

  141. bruceb May 30th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    I’d rather take my chances in Afghanistan than Walmart. Lot of scary people there (Walmart, that is).

  142. luis May 30th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Tom,

    That’s very good

    Bruceb,

    Careful of what you wish for ;) I am sure Afghanistan is a lot more dangerous than a Walmart

  143. luis May 30th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Tom,

    another thing…As every American Company should be doing

  144. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    very quick look at the NYY home attendance in 2013 and play it out it looks like they are going to be about 500,000 short of last years home attendance

  145. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    500,000 short and the Bros will take notice

  146. Doreen May 30th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    You have to celebrate the positive, and that is that even though the Yankees are offense-challenged, they are still 8 games over .500 and only one game out of first. With reinforcements on the way.

    Far from a perfect scenario, I do realize, but they are also in a competitive division, (the Yankees), and do have a realistic chance to be in the post season (at least so far).

  147. Doreen May 30th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    They will compare that to the league average dip in attendance. If they decide it’s more to do with a general decline, due to the economy or whatever, they might not be as concerned as one might think they’d be.

  148. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Doreen May 30th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
    You have to celebrate the positive, and that is that even though the Yankees are offense-challenged, they are still 8 games over .500 and only one game out of first. With reinforcements on the way.

    Far from a perfect scenario, I do realize, but they are also in a competitive division, (the Yankees), and do have a realistic chance to be in the post season (at least so far).

    ———————————
    not really crazy about the health of the returning players..Jeter is way off,Tex is one check swing away & Youkilis who the hell knows he’s got a bad track record the last 3 years

  149. jacksquat May 30th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    bruceb May 30th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Funny how things change so quickly in baseball. On Monday, all the talk was about how Tex was going to take at-bats away from Overbay. Now it seems that he and Youk can’t arrive quick enough.

    Vs LHP, yes, they make the lineup look much better. Vs RHP, Tex replaces Overbay and Youk replaces Adams (most days probably). We’ll see if that is a net positive.

  150. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Doreen May 30th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
    They will compare that to the league average dip in attendance. If they decide it’s more to do with a general decline, due to the economy or whatever, they might not be as concerned as one might think they’d be.

    ——————————————-
    11 teams in MLB have a increase in attendance

  151. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    “very quick look at the NYY home attendance in 2013 and play it out it looks like they are going to be about 500,000 short of last years home attendance”

    You can’t do that because attendance goes up in the summer when school’s out. You need to compare April/May attendance only.

    It’s still down, but not to the degree that comparing 2013 to 2012 would indicate.

  152. tomingeorgia May 30th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    luis,
    Walmart is offering to hire a hundred thousand men and women this year, or about half the total workforce of General Motors. The ad didn’t specify what jobs were offered, but I’d imagine they’re everything from cart boys and greeters on up, depending on qualifications. The ad showed enlisted people as well as officers, so I imagine that if you qualify for a higher position, you’ll get it. I may go apply myself!

    A great gesture by Walmart, and much more than that.

  153. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Tor,Wash,AT,Balt,White Sox,Cinn,LAA,LAD,Oak,SD,SF all have a increase in attendance over this time last year..and it’s April & May don’t it…I thinks it’s the products that is being put out & peeps don’t like what they see

  154. mick May 30th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Matsui Day 7/28……retire his #?

  155. mick May 30th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    peeps don’t like what they see
    =============
    more like what they don’t see….winning aint enuf, go figure?

  156. luis May 30th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    tomingeorgia May 30th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    luis,
    Walmart is offering to hire a hundred thousand men and women this year, or about half the total workforce of General Motors. The ad didn’t specify what jobs were offered, but I’d imagine they’re everything from cart boys and greeters on up, depending on qualifications. The ad showed enlisted people as well as officers, so I imagine that if you qualify for a higher position, you’ll get it. I may go apply myself!

    A great gesture by Walmart, and much more than that.

    ==========================

    It is… And a very good example for the rest… An enterprise shouldn’t be only about profits, but about improving American Society as a whole… In the end, it is in their own interest… the more people doing fine the better sales they will have, therfore more and better profits… They should bring back all those jobs from China back to the US..And force the Chinese to have equivalent pay and rights by raising taxes on goods from there

  157. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    “I thinks it’s the products that is being put out & peeps don’t like what they see”

    You can thinks whatever you want, but it’s a fact that attendance goes up in the summer and comparing all of 2012 to April and May of 2013 is wrong.

  158. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    peeps don’t like what they see
    =============
    more like what they don’t see….winning aint enuf, go figure?

    ——————————————
    it’s all about the names

  159. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    does walmart pay minimum wage? or are these jobs exempt from that.
    health benefits tho’ mandated , not for p/t i believe.

  160. Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
    Matsui Day 7/28……retire his #?
    ———————————————————-

    Matsui is one of my favorite Yanks of all-time but this whole number retiring thing is getting pretty ridiculous. Just like fans booing anybody who wears #21. Just retire the all-time greats (Jeter, Rivera are the only current guys who deserve the honor) and leave the rest alone. Keep it exclusive.

  161. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    it’s all about the names
    ==========
    its B’way aint it…

  162. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    “I thinks it’s the products that is being put out & peeps don’t like what they see”

    You can thinks whatever you want, but it’s a fact that attendance goes up in the summer and comparing all of 2012 to April and May of 2013 is wrong.

    ——————————–
    no matter what they are not getting close to the 3.5 mil they drew last year

  163. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    or as the hair stylist from seinfeld said to elaine….What! NO bette midrer???

  164. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
    it’s all about the names
    ==========
    its B’way aint it…
    ———————
    always been that way

  165. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Average April/May attendance in 2012 was 41,049
    Average June/July/August attendance in 2012 was 44,286

  166. luis May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Tyler,

    Posada deserves it too… But I agree nor O’neal or Matsui deserve their numbers to be retired… Honor and rmembered? yes

  167. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    whats the mets excuse for low att?

  168. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    “no matter what they are not getting close to the 3.5 mil they drew last year”

    I agree. And I hope attendance being down is enough to make them re-think their budget plans.

  169. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    Average April/May attendance in 2012 was 41,049
    Average June/July/August attendance in 2012 was 44,286

    ————————-
    is that the NYY

  170. Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    “is that the NYY”

    Yeah, just Yankees.

  171. Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Milb.com has a picture of Tex promoting tonight’s game and you can see his eyes tracking the popup he hit yesterday… it’s too perfect.

  172. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Just like fans booing anybody who wears #21
    =========================
    only hawkins tried that nonsense…

  173. bruceb May 30th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    It should be noted that Walmart pay their cart pushers, people greeters and fitting room associates $8 an hour and their cashiers $8.40. If you’re unemployed and your benefits have run out then I can see the appeal. Others may call it exploitation.

  174. Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    luis-

    You are right.. Posada does too. Not sure about Pettite. Leaning toward no.

  175. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    If they draw 3 mil that over 500.000 less, which carries out to over 6,000 per game less

  176. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    nothing here about retiring his #

    The New York Yankees will honor the illustrious career of Hideki Matsui before their scheduled 1:05 p.m. game on Sunday, July 28 vs. Tampa Bay.

    Matsui will sign a one-day minor league contract with the Yankees on July 28 in order to announce his official retirement that day as a New York Yankee. His parents are also expected to be in attendance at the game.

    Additionally, on July 28, the Yankees will hold a special pregame homeplate ceremony for Matsui, and the first 18,000 Guests at the game will receive a Hideki Matsui bobblehead – which portrays the slugger with his 2009 World Series MVP trophy.

  177. luis May 30th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Bruce,

    the more people hiring the better the wages will get… Is simple economics… The more demand, the higher the prices ( in this case wages )

  178. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    bernie should be retired and andy

  179. Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
    Just like fans booing anybody who wears #21
    =========================
    only hawkins tried that nonsense…
    —————————————————————–

    Yeah because nobody else would want that treatment. It was ridiculous. O’Neal was my favorite player on those dynasty teams but he doesn’t deserve to have 21 retired. Booing a guy on your favorite team because of that was one of the dumbest fan moves I’ve seen in sports.

  180. pat May 30th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Newsday reported that Yankees are -3000 per game in attendance this year. Multiply that by 81 games and you are looking at ~ 250,000 less seats sold.

    Possible the attendance will get better as the stars return and weather warms up.

  181. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    Average April/May attendance in 2012 was 41,049
    Average June/July/August attendance in 2012 was 44,286

    ————————-
    is that the NYY

    Russell Munson May 30th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
    “is that the NYY”

    Yeah, just Yankees.

    ————————-
    well if they get their spike then that gets them from avg as of now about 38,000 to 41,000 which would be about 3 mil total peeps

  182. Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Bernie, Andy, and Jorge were great and I wouldn’t argue against their #’s retired, but I just want more exclusivity with this. All-time greats should have their numbers retired… make it mean something. Not simply any guy who ever hit .300

  183. Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    joeman May 30th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    mick May 30th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    peeps don’t like what they see
    =============
    more like what they don’t see….winning aint enuf, go figure?

    ——————————————
    it’s all about the names

    ———————

    In many cases yes it especially in NY.

    You either need stars in their prime or young high end talent: Harvey, Trout, Strausburg, Machado, etc.

  184. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    he doesn’t deserve to have 21 retired.
    ===================
    maybe not but it was too soon, wait till the honeymoon is over.

  185. tomingeorgia May 30th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Mister mick,
    I’m sure Walmart pays minimum wage for minimum wage jobs, and more where the job market says they have to. No idea of part-time benefits, but it’s a job, fercrissakes.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/.....s/1835397/

  186. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    bernie should be retired and andy

    ——————–
    if the Boss was around Bernie would have had it done already

  187. blake May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    You can basically make more not working than working a lot of jobs with the system in place…..of course many folks want to earn their money.

    I’m not sure wha a Wal Mart greeter should make but many of them are elderly folks that his want to get out of the house and supplement their retirement and social security.

  188. 86w183 May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    I would only retire numbers for All-Time Greats. Hall of Famers who spent at least half their career in pinstripes.

    Other Yankees “legends” would be honored with their number in Monument Park, but those numbers would continue to be worn. No managers’ numbers would be retired.

    So for me, # 3, # 4, # 5, # 7, # 8, # 16…. and soon # 2 and # 42

  189. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    You either need stars in their prime or young high end talent: Harvey, Trout, Strausburg, Machado, etc.
    ===============
    you mean youkilis overbay hafner and wells don’t do it for you?

  190. Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Booing a guy on your favorite team because of that was one of the dumbest fan moves I’ve seen in sports.

    ————-

    It was brutal. The fans showed a real lack of class.

  191. luis May 30th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Tyler,

    I think in the end they might be retired ( Bernie and Pettitte )… As members of a very good dynasty… But I understand you.

    By the way, Is Jackson’s number retired?

  192. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    mr tom
    there will be changes in hiring strategies when obamacare kicks in, more p/t workers for sure

  193. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
    You either need stars in their prime or young high end talent: Harvey, Trout, Strausburg, Machado, etc.
    ===============
    you mean youkilis overbay hafner and wells don’t do it for you?

    —————————-
    first laugh today

  194. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    jax is retired for that 3rd HR

  195. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    It was brutal. The fans showed a real lack of class.
    ================
    love means never having to say you’re sorry…

  196. Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
    You either need stars in their prime or young high end talent: Harvey, Trout, Strausburg, Machado, etc.
    ===============
    you mean youkilis overbay hafner and wells don’t do it for you?

    ————————-

    They do it for me. I’ve watched pretty much all the games but some fans need more. The guys you mentioned don’t move sections of the fan base. They are playing well before this last streak and fans aren’t running to the ball park….even the YES ratings are down. What does that tell you?

  197. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    mr tom
    there will be changes in hiring strategies when obamacare kicks in, more p/t workers for sure

    ————————————
    I don’t know why I get the feeling this still won’t fly…

  198. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    for the youngins that was from Love Story

  199. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    I don’t know why I get the feeling this still won’t fly…
    ================
    bamacare?

  200. blake May 30th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: #Braves announce Francisco DFA to make room for Wood. Faced tough decision dropping bench player. Francisco .159/.229/.250 in May.

    Pounce cash

  201. sunny615 May 30th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    this site doesn’t get updated all that much anymore eh?

  202. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    even the YES ratings are down. What does that tell you?
    ========================
    kaye was complaining about this the other day..he really seemed hurt…fans don’t believe in this team and don’t expect the no name run to last.

  203. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
    You either need stars in their prime or young high end talent: Harvey, Trout, Strausburg, Machado, etc.
    ===============
    you mean youkilis overbay hafner and wells don’t do it for you?

    ————————-

    They do it for me. I’ve watched pretty much all the games but some fans need more. The guys you mentioned don’t move sections of the fan base. They are playing well before this last streak and fans aren’t running to the ball park….even the YES ratings are down. What does that tell you?

    ———————————————
    I was told by the somebody the economy was going to get better

  204. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    why dont you update us sunny?

  205. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    I was told by the somebody the economy was going to get better
    ==========
    Obama?

  206. 86w183 May 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    I don’t think there’s any doubt that “Star Power” is a big part of Yankees lore and there are very few stars out there right now. Stars attract the casual fan who wants to say he/she saw that person play @ the Stadium.

  207. Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    luis-

    I’m almost positive that 44 is retired.. another tough case for me. I wouldn’t have retired it but rather just honored it like someone suggested above. Maris is another difficult one. Probably wouldn’t have retired his either. They have to be career Yanks or at least played the vast majority of their career in pinstripes (prime years).

  208. tbone1570 May 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Tyler May 30th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
    Matsui Day 7/28……retire his #?
    ———————————————————-

    Matsui is one of my favorite Yanks of all-time but this whole number retiring thing is getting pretty ridiculous. Just like fans booing anybody who wears #21. Just retire the all-time greats (Jeter, Rivera are the only current guys who deserve the honor) and leave the rest alone. Keep it exclusive.

    ==========================================

    Agreed, don’t retire his number. I feel that in order to have their number retires, I feel a player needs to be very, very special. As much as I like Matsui, O’Niell, Bernie and Andy, I don’t feel that their numbers should be retired.

  209. G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    When Matsui signs his 1 day contract, can we bat him 5th?

  210. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: #Braves announce Francisco DFA to make room for Wood. Faced tough decision dropping bench player. Francisco .159/.229/.250 in May.
    ===========
    Our Ben?

  211. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Can Matsui play that day?

  212. sunny615 May 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    If i had access to the team and players I would. Can you get it for me mick?

  213. Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    even the YES ratings are down. What does that tell you?
    ========================
    kaye was complaining about this the other day..he really seemed hurt…fans don’t believe in this team and don’t expect the no name run to last.

    ————————————

    Probably that and they are missing names like Jeter, Tex, and A-rod.

  214. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Matsui was special.

  215. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    86w183 May 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
    I don’t think there’s any doubt that “Star Power” is a big part of Yankees lore and there are very few stars out there right now. Stars attract the casual fan who wants to say he/she saw that person play @ the Stadium.

    ——————————
    100% correct

  216. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    what makes you think i have such access sunny, you think i’m cashman?

  217. sunny615 May 30th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    It crossed my mind… :)

  218. joecembrale May 30th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    44 is retired. Reggie only played 5 years here but got us over the hump. Maris also played only 5-6 years here, won two MVPs and broke the HR mark, but was not a career Yankee.

  219. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    I don’t think there’s any doubt that “Star Power” is a big part of Yankees lore and there are very few stars out there right now. Stars attract the casual fan who wants to say he/she saw that person play @ the Stadium.
    ================
    so go to the games to see Trout, Cabrera, Harvey, Strasberg and Machado

  220. blake May 30th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Juan Francisco I presume…..25 year old lefty hitting 3B. He’s not great and he’s kinda pudgy but he would be nice depth or even a platoon option at 3B

  221. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    sunny, maybe i am, maybe i am (going to jump off a building now)

  222. sunny615 May 30th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    don’t forget your parachute.

  223. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Juan Francisco I presume…..25 year old lefty hitting 3B. He’s not great and he’s kinda pudgy but he would be nice depth or even a platoon option at 3B
    ============
    where are betemit and mcgeeheehee when you need them?

  224. luis May 30th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    yler May 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
    luis-

    I’m almost positive that 44 is retired.. another tough case for me. I wouldn’t have retired it but rather just honored it like someone suggested above. Maris is another difficult one. Probably wouldn’t have retired his either. They have to be career Yanks or at least played the vast majority of their career in pinstripes (prime years).

    ===========================

    I agree wholeheartedly… I would have never retired his number… He should be honored, but yes, retired numbers should be reserved for all time Yankees

  225. joeman May 30th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Against All Odds May 30th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
    mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    even the YES ratings are down. What does that tell you?
    ========================
    kaye was complaining about this the other day..he really seemed hurt…fans don’t believe in this team and don’t expect the no name run to last.

    ——————————————————
    been a NYY fan for a looooong time and you can count me as one of those…..right now they are about a 92 win team

  226. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    no worry i’ll land in a dumpster.

  227. tbone1570 May 30th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    G. Love May 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    When Matsui signs his 1 day contract, can we bat him 5th?

    ======================================

    No, Joe will slot him in the 2 hole because he’s a “ball player”!

  228. SoS May 30th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    I wonder if matsuis etcha sketch wife will be in attendance? Should have her sing the national anyhem in that day.

  229. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    ight now they are about a 92 win team
    ==============
    nothing wrong with that
    if they made the playoffs with this team they wouldn’t sellout

  230. pat May 30th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Gardner, Cano, Wells, Hafner, Overbay, Boesch, Adams, Brignac, Romine. Nuno on the mound.

  231. mick May 30th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    I agree wholeheartedly… I would have never retired his number… He should be honored, but yes, retired numbers should be reserved for all time Yankees
    =================
    so if reggie won them 5 straight WS, say got 3 MVP’s, you don’t retire it?

  232. SoS May 30th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Everyone knows “dammit giambis batting 5th again!” has that in a choke hold. #2 is available.

  233. Run it Out May 30th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Military vets are usually a good bet as employees. Smart move by Walmart. Good PR and solid personnel strategy.

  234. joecembrale May 30th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    These are averages for a Yankee career. Who is Don Mattingly and who is Paul O’Neill. One has their number retired.
    G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
    162 701 636 91 195 40 2 20 100 1 1 53 40 .307 .358 .471 .830 127
    162 693 607 93 184 39 2 23 111 10 5 76 92 .303 .377 .471 .869 127

  235. 86w183 May 30th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Reggie’s Yankees career saw him post .281 BA, 29 HR and 92 RBI on average… hardly worthy of a retired #. Oakland should retire his #, the Yankees should not have.

  236. joecembrale May 30th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    I am a little over 50 and thought the callon Reggie was 50/50. Remember at the time his number was retired in 93 at a time when the Yanks were desperate for heroes and any association with glory and legacy. I think a lot of that went into the decision. During that era of the “abyss” we retired Rizutto, Guidry, Martin and Maris also. Nothing against them, but they were not Ruth, Gerhig, DiMaggio and Mantle either. I always thought it was finding a to sell the continuality of the brand.

  237. joecembrale May 30th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    continuality —continuity sorry typed too fast

  238. Buddy Ozols August 22nd, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    I really like to acquire letters with U.S. commemorative stamps on them; I collect these. How are your letters stampedor are they metered (yech)?

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