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Yankees pregame: All about the drugs

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Most of the questions at Joe Girardi’s press conference were about the latest PED scandal that is rocking baseball, especially since Alex Rodriguez is caught up in it.

Girardi said he hasn’t spoken to A-Rod today.

“When I talk to him, it will strictly be baseball stuff and rehab stuff like it always has been,” Girardi said.

“My concern is about the game and the game being clean and the game just being good. I had hoped that we were through it, but obviously maybe we’re not. We’re going to find out. But we’ll let MLB handle it.”

Girardi was asked how the team will be affected if A-Rod is suspended for 100 games, which is the plan, according to ESPN.

“We’ll cross that bridge,” Girardi said. “This is in MLB’s hands. For me to speculate doesn’t make a lot of sense.”

Girardi was asked how he’s dealing with the issue in regard to the Yankees involved, including Francisco Cervelli.

“Being in New York, you’re always going to have things that come up,” Girardi said. “Some of it is going to be speculation, some of it’s not. You deal with it. You deal with it as time goes on and make sure that players focus on the field. I think our guys are really good at doing that. There are a lot of expectations that players have to deal with here. There’s a lot of different things that players have to deal with on a daily basis to play the game, and I think guys are really good at handling that.

“I’m always concerned about my players. And I’m concerned about guys on other teams, too, how they handle situations and how they deal with it, how it affects maybe a rehab. But my focus on them is doing whatever I have to to help them get ready. You try to put them in a good place. Right now, it’s in Tampa for Alex to get ready. Hopefully that will build up to games. But that’s my focus. My focus is not on what MLB is investigating and all of that. And I don’t want to get caught up in that just because, in a sense, they’re going to handle it. I’ll let them handle it. I’ll continue to assist our players in getting ready any way they can. But he’s in Tampa getting ready and that’s what we want him to do.

“I think the game is always bigger than one individual, 10 individuals, a hundred individuals, a thousand individuals. This game has gone on for a long period of time. I think the important thing is you try to learn from everything that happens in the  game, whether it’s good, bad or indifferent. You try to learn. That’s how I try to get by it and through it and however you want to talk about it.

“This is a great game and I love this game and I want what’s best for this game,” Girardi added. “I think baseball is trying to do that as well. Unfortunately there are some things that you go through in all sports that sometimes is not what’s best for the sport. But you’re going to get through it. … This game has a long history and it’s a great game and it will continue to be a great game.”

Lyle Overbay is in right for the third straight game and Ichiro Suzuki is sitting at the start. Girardi said it’s partly about giving “our guys a day off in a long stretch. We’re going at it night game after day game, long day yesterday. So it’s just a good way to give Ich a little break and he’ll be back out there tomorrow.”

Mark Teixeira has driven in seven runs with two homers in the last two games.

“Tex is a great RBI guy and that’s what he’s doing,” Girardi said.

 
 

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75 Responses to “Yankees pregame: All about the drugs”

  1. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 5th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    repost:

    Just a quick drive by to say GO YANKS!!! GO CC!!!

    Hoping I get to catch at least some of the game later on.

    I apologize to anyone who feels offended by what I’m going to say next and I will say that if you disagree with my take, I totally understand it and respect your view and opinion. Not everyone feels the same way about every issue.

    At this point Arod disgusts me and I think he is a total embarrassment to the pinstripes. He’s embarrassed the Yankees before with some of his antics but since he hasn’t played a lot in the past season and this season, it’s easy to forget those things. I don’t care what reason he has for doing what he does, I’m beyond over him. I pray his contract can be voided. I care far too much about the Yankees to want the stench of his ego and antics to infect the team any further.

    Cervelli obviously needs to serve his suspension. Maybe now his resurrection becomes more understandable. I really like the kid and his enthusiasm but I don’t know how I feel about him continuing on the team. That apparently is up to the Yankees.

    That’s all.

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 5th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    If it wasn’t clear, I don’t ever want to see Arod play for the Yankees again.

    Not sure if I’ll get my wish.

    Later.

  3. Hassey June 5th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    that has been my pregame motto for decades

  4. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    “Individual clubs would NEVER get away with PED clauses. It has to be a collectively bargained issue, but it would be hard for the MLBPA to publicly oppose it. That’s why when I wrote it, I wrote it to be “inserted into the CBA”.

    you can put whatever you want in a contract as long as the player and agent agree to it…..I mean those clauses they put in there about skiing and playing basketball etc are collectively bargained.

  5. Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    I support ARod. I don’t believe for 1 minute that MLB has anything but a “rat” as their
    ally against these 20 or so MLB players.

    LET’S GO YANKEES!!!

  6. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    100 games without pay outta wake up Arod.

  7. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t see whats stopping a team from saying look here is a 200 million dollar contract….but you have to agree in writing to stay free of PEDs…if you break this agreement then we can move to void your contract or fine you or whatever……it’s the players choice to agree or not.

  8. Ys Guy June 5th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    ““do you see any other sports shooting themselves in the foot like this?”
    ==================================
    most baseball people when reviewing bud’s time as commissioner would say that his biggest mistake was not going after steroids. id agree with that.

    so now you are saying his office is ‘shooting itself in the foot’ by not making the same mistake?

    you dont seem to want to come clean on where you stand here.

    do you think they should be investigating biogenesis or no? (its not possible to do it w/o it getting into the press)”

  9. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    you can put whatever you want in a contract as long as the player and agent agree to it…..I mean those clauses they put in there about skiing and playing basketball etc are collectively bargained.

    No they aren’t. There is no collectively bargained clauses in the CBA that say players can be suspended for playing basketball. Thats the difference. There is already a system setup to punish PED use.

  10. Ys Guy June 5th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    “Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    I support ARod. I don’t believe for 1 minute that MLB has anything but a “rat” as their
    ally against these 20 or so MLB players.”
    ==================================
    but do you think arod bought ped’s from biogenesis or not? and if so, do you think he should face punishment for it?

  11. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    “100 games without pay outta wake up Arod.”

    if he’s not woken up now then not sure what will…..I don’t think it matters anymore or that there is anything he can do to restore his legacy anyways

  12. Hassey June 5th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Isn’t Biogenesis from Star Trek III with Khan?

  13. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    “No they aren’t. There is no collectively bargained clauses in the CBA that say players can be suspended for playing basketball. Thats the difference. There is already a system setup to punish PED use.”

    yea but does that mean that additional penalties can’t be applied if it was agreed to in writing by the player and team beforehand? What’s stopping that? Would the union fight it? I mean if a player agrees to not do something in writing and then does it then it’s the players own fault.

  14. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    What’s stopping that? Would the union fight it?

    The union. And yes. Why would any player agree to be extra punished?

  15. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Blake,

    Money matters to him.

  16. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    “Tex is a great RBI guy and that’s what he’s doing,” Girardi said.

    Actually Tex is a great HR guy and the guys in front of him are getting on base. Tex doesn’t actually have control over that.

  17. Against All Odds June 5th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
    “100 games without pay outta wake up Arod.”

    if he’s not woken up now then not sure what will…..I don’t think it matters anymore or that there is anything he can do to restore his legacy anyways

    ———————

    He would have to sacrifice his life saving children for his legacy to be restored.

  18. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    “100 games without pay outta wake up Arod.”

    if he’s not woken up now then not sure what will…..I don’t think it matters anymore or that there is anything he can do to restore his legacy anyways
    ——————–

    I think it’s naive to believe that this would be the final straw that would push Alex into retirement.

    And we know that retirement is the only way the Yankees get out from this contract.

    Having said that – if he’s done for 100 games (meaning the rest of the season) I just don’t see him suiting up for the team in 2014. I think Hal will choke on the contract, but release him non-the-less.

    As I said earlier, from a pure baseball perspective, a Cervelli suspension has more impact on the team than an Alex suspension.

  19. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    His body is breaking down. If they can trade for Headley it’s an upgrade.

  20. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    “The union. And yes. Why would any player agree to be extra punished?”

    to get the contract.

  21. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Lets say the Yankees offered Cano a 200 million dollar contract but in the contract there was PED language that said if you test positive for PEDS then we can void your contract. He doesn’t have to sign the contract…..but if he doesn’t wouldn’t that clause hold up?

  22. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    to get the contract.

    The union would put the contract clause you wish players would sign through the shredder, the player would get the contract without that bit.

  23. RadioKev June 5th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    “And we know that retirement is the only way the Yankees get out from this contract.”

    Or they could make a statement and cut him. If he does get suspended, I’m all for it. I don’t think he needs to be villainized, but twice is one too many times to cheat. He likely won’r even be that productive whenever he does come back. He’ll be age 38-39 after he serves a theoretical suspension.

  24. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    He doesn’t have to sign the contract…..but if he doesn’t wouldn’t that clause hold up?

    No, the whole point of the JDA is that the players teams and mlb FORFEIT their rights for any other methods of punishment / testing / mitigation regarding drugs. The program has no point if rogue actors can add or remove portions of it they do not like.

  25. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    What marketing value does Arod even hold at this point? Do you want to bring your kids to the ballpark to see him at this stage in his career? Do enough fans still buy tickets to see this guy?

    What if he has negative marketing value? Is it even worth keeping him on the roster?

  26. Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Ys Guy June 5th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
    “Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    I support ARod. I don’t believe for 1 minute that MLB has anything but a “rat” as their
    ally against these 20 or so MLB players.”
    ==================================
    but do you think arod bought ped’s from biogenesis or not? and if so, do you think he should face punishment for it?
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    Listen, I am probably very cynical because I don’t trust Bud Selig, MLB or the investigators.
    Bud is trying to save face and trying to fool the fans into thinking he is some kind of hero for “cleaning up the game”. When we all know he certainly went blind when there were prominent all star players in the late 90′s who were abusing PED’s.

    Anyway, I have no idea if Arod is guilty or not. I would love for him to come forward, speak the truth and the move on. But that would probably take a miracle to happen because of agents and lawyers and the tens of millions of dollars at stake.

    There are no winners here.
    Just imagine having to believe a guy like Tony Bosch. Someone who denied any involvement with players only a few months ago and now suddenly he’s ready to bring everybody down.
    Why? Because Tony is facing a lawsuit. So yeah, he’ll give the MLB investigators anything they want to save his own behind.

  27. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    “No, the whole point of the JDA is that the players teams and mlb FORFEIT their rights for any other methods of punishment / testing / mitigation regarding drugs. The program has no point if rogue actors can add or remove portions of it they do not like.”

    fair enough….I’m no lawyer so I’ll take your word for it….

  28. Against All Odds June 5th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    I don’t think he needs to be villainized,

    ——————

    It’s too late for that

  29. joeman June 5th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Major League Baseball has cast a wide net in its investigation of the Biogenesis clinic, but it appears that net is only going to ensnare one big-name Yankee. While Alex Rodriguez is among the 20 MLB players who are reportedly being targeted for suspensions due to their connection to the Biogenesis clinic in Miami, which is accused of distributing performance-enhancing drugs, Robinson Cano is not part of the probe, John Harper of the New York Daily News reports. “There has been no indication from MLB that Robinson Cano is in danger of being suspended,” Harper reports a Yankees source as saying. Cano was first linked to Biogenesis when the name of a spokeswoman for his foundation was said to have appeared on one of the lists from the clinic. Cano denied any involvement shortly after.

  30. joeman June 5th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    His body is breaking down. If they can trade for Headley it’s an upgrade
    —————————————————
    lets get it on

  31. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    RadioKev June 5th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    “And we know that retirement is the only way the Yankees get out from this contract.”

    Or they could make a statement and cut him. If he does get suspended, I’m all for it. I don’t think he needs to be villainized, but twice is one too many times to cheat. He likely won’r even be that productive whenever he does come back. He’ll be age 38-39 after he serves a theoretical suspension.
    ———————-

    If they cut him they still have to pay him. I meant that retirement is the only way the Yankees avoid paying Alex the money he’s owed.

  32. RadioKev June 5th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Against All Odds June 5th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    I don’t think he needs to be villainized,

    ——————

    It’s too late for that
    ———–

    Oh sure, yes. I’m just saying from my point. I don’t care if he’s evil or not or complicated. Just send the message to Yankee fans and Yankee players that this organization is better than that.

    Idealistic, but I don’t think it would be a waste. I think this is what a well run organization would do.

  33. Hassey June 5th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Ramiro Pena should be on the list:

    .321
    3 HR
    14 RBI

  34. RadioKev June 5th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    If they cut him they still have to pay him. I meant that retirement is the only way the Yankees avoid paying Alex the money he’s owed.
    ——-

    Ah yes. Yes, Alex is getting his money no matter what. With you there.

  35. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    If the A-Rod (and the Tex and the AJ ) experience teaches them not to give Cano a huge contract, it would not have been for nothing.

  36. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    If the Yankees determine Arod is toxic or damaging to the Yankees brand then it makes no sense to keep him on the roster. If he offers no way of generating revenue or worse, drives away paying customers, then they would maybe cut him and eat his remaining salary.

  37. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Lets say the Yankees offered Cano a 200 million dollar contract but in the contract there was PED language that said if you test positive for PEDS then we can void your contract. He doesn’t have to sign the contract…..but if he doesn’t wouldn’t that clause hold up?
    —————-

    You can’t have a clause in the contract that runs contrary to the CBA.

  38. joeman June 5th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Arod & retirement is the way to go….how about a little some some ( $$$$) on the way out the door

  39. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    “If the Yankees determine Arod is toxic or damaging to the Yankees brand then it makes no sense to keep him on the roster”

    I think the majority of damage has been done. Most fans thinks he sucks. Do they attend less games or buy less gear because of that? I doubt it.

  40. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    I guess one of the reasons I thought teams might could do that was because in reading about the Arod situation I kept reading where one of the reasons they couldn’t pursue voiding his contract was because there was no PED language in the contract……so I thought well if that was worth a mention then it was possible that there could be.

  41. joeman June 5th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    the NYY offer him a retirement packsge

  42. jacksquat June 5th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    I’ve been reading and searching the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program and I don’t see one reference to any punishment for lying about drug use.

    I suspect the double punishment thing is not going to fly. MLB probably knows this and is only trying for the 100 game suspensions (for players who have not previously had a 50 game suspension) so the arbitration panel will more easily give them the 50.

  43. Hassey June 5th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    This whole scandal is absolutely perfect fodder for LoHud…I can see this going on for months…ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz…….

  44. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    What the Yankees have to decide with Alex is if the juice is worth the squeeze.

    They need to put the money aside, it is spent and they’re not getting it back.

    Pure baseball decision – is Alex Rodriguez, as a player, going to help you enough to make the ancillary stuff worth dealing with?

    If the answer is yes, you keep him. If not, you release him and move on.

  45. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    I guess one of the reasons I thought teams might could do that was because in reading about the Arod situation I kept reading where one of the reasons they couldn’t pursue voiding his contract was because there was no PED language in the contract

    I think thats media shorthand for explaining that these things are collectively bargained and blah blah blah. Fans will irrationally think “Why cant the owners fire them!! why cant they sue the players!! I’m outraged!!” When the real reason is “a complex legal precedent” and the easy way is “the contract doesnt allow it”.

  46. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    If fans think he sucks and the team could upgrade his production then Arod doesn’t generate the revenue that the contract anticipated. So cut him and pay him.

  47. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    I guess one of the reasons I thought teams might could do that was because in reading about the Arod situation I kept reading where one of the reasons they couldn’t pursue voiding his contract was because there was no PED language in the contract……so I thought well if that was worth a mention then it was possible that there could be.
    —————————-

    There wasn’t language in the contract because, by rule, you’re not allowed to put that kind of language in the contract.

  48. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I’ve been reading and searching the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program and I don’t see one reference to any punishment for lying about drug use.

    The only reason it worked on the minor league player is because the minor league player had no protection. Braun and A-rod are triple wrapped.

  49. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    “If the Yankees determine Arod is toxic or damaging to the Yankees brand then it makes no sense to keep him on the roster”

    I think the majority of damage has been done. Most fans thinks he sucks. Do they attend less games or buy less gear because of that? I doubt it.
    —————

    But is his production going to be worthy of a roster spot going forward?

  50. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    And of course I say that most media outlets can barely understand the luxury tax section of the CBA, we can’t expect them to understand the contract law that goes into a uniform player contract.

  51. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    But is his production going to be worthy of a roster spot going forward?

    ____________

    I’d say no. His body is breaking down. He doesn’t draw fans any longer. Get Headley.

  52. Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    In a recent interview with ESPN, his only one since the scandal broke, Bosch said he knew nothing about performance-enhancing drugs and that media accounts of his alleged PED distribution amounted to “character assassination.
    “I have been accused, tried and convicted in the media. And so I think [I] have been falsely accused throughout the media,” he told ESPN’s Pedro Gomez. “I’ve done nothing wrong.”

  53. blake June 5th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    There wasn’t language in the contract because, by rule, you’re not allowed to put that kind of language in the contract.”

    Right but if that was worth mentioning then I figured it was possible…..anyway….I’ll take y’all’s word for it.

  54. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    It’s too early to tell, Chip.

    Is he can going to be worse than Wells? My guess is no. Can he stay intact longer than Youk? Maybe.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he recovers well. I am more concerned about how long he can remain healthy.

  55. Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    But sources said Bosch has been feeling pressure from both the MLB lawsuit, which claims tortious interference, and a potential criminal investigation, and that he sees full cooperation with MLB as one of his only refuges. Several attorneys have said they don’t think the lawsuit could survive a legal challenge, but Bosch likely would have to put up a costly fight in order to have the case dismissed. Several sources have told ESPN that Bosch is nearly broke, living alternately with family members and friends, and has tried unsuccessfully so far to revive his “wellness” business.

  56. joeman June 5th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    who knows if Arod can play again…he’s still hitting off a tee and standing still fielding ground balls…good shot he don’t return this year no matter

  57. Locke June 5th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    If ARod is busted for steroids, I hope he serves his suspension. If MLB doesn’t have actual evidence besides old ledgers then I hope he comes back as the 2009 version of himself. He’s a great player, even if his ego is a bit overbearing at times.

    I personally like the guy and if he can help us win then I’m all for it.

  58. Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Funny how the comments made in the media by Hal and Cashman were about 2 days
    before the MLB announcement concerning ARod and PED’s.
    Coincidence? I don’t think so.
    Yankees were trying to get out in front of the story and doing all they can to distance
    themselves from ARod.
    Very sad.

  59. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    As I said yesterday, it is fine for Cashman to comment because he got it right.

    Hal looks like a fool because it was obvious to most people (including his GM, but not him or the people he listens to) that the contract was a huge mistake when it was signed.

  60. pat June 5th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    “….He doesn’t draw fans any longer……”

    “It reminds me of the Howard Stern movie “Private Parts.” The program director is trying to get Stern out and does research that shows the average Stern fan listens to his show an hour and 20 minutes a day. And the people who hate Stern listen two hours and 20 minutes.

    Both give the same reason: “I want to see what he’ll say next.”

    This is A-Rod – it seems those that are appalled by him, can’t get enough of him. I heard for years from Yankee fans that they wanted a team built less around stars, egos and homers, They have that in 2013 on what is still a winning club and yet attendance and YES ratings are down dramatically.

    Here is a hunch – if A-Rod does make it back from hip surgery this year, even with all the negativity that swirls around him, attendance and TV ratings will rise to see, whether great or horrible, what he does next.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....z2VMVdiJbZ

  61. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I’ve been reading and searching the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program and I don’t see one reference to any punishment for lying about drug use.

    The only reason it worked on the minor league player is because the minor league player had no protection. Braun and A-rod are triple wrapped.
    ————-

    They’re going to use the language in Section 7 Part G Number 2: A player may be suspended for Just Cause for a violation of the program not specifically listed.

    In other words, if you do something involving steroids, like lie about your use of them, that could count as a violation.

    It’s really vague language that I’m surprised the PA lawyers let in.

  62. Jesus Bustero June 5th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    2007 – 1.067
    2008 – .965
    2009 – .933
    2010 – .847
    2011 – .823
    2012 – .783
    2013 – hip injury
    2014 – 50 – 100 game suspension

  63. RadioKev June 5th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Warning Track Power June 5th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    Funny how the comments made in the media by Hal and Cashman were about 2 days
    before the MLB announcement concerning ARod and PED’s.
    Coincidence? I don’t think so.
    Yankees were trying to get out in front of the story and doing all they can to distance
    themselves from ARod.
    Very sad.
    ————

    I’ve read this idea a few times… I don’t quite get it. We’ve known for months that A-Rod has been connected to Biogenesis and could be facing suspension. This isn’t new. How are they getting out in front of a months old story, by essentially saying nothing about A-Rod?

    I’m pretty sure this originated with Cashman’s interview with Olney that aired Sunday night. Could fans just ask Olney if he came up with the question or if the Yankees pitched it to them? (Seems unlikely when Cashman goes on to say “no comment.”)

  64. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    It’s too early to tell, Chip.

    Is he can going to be worse than Wells? My guess is no. Can he stay intact longer than Youk? Maybe.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he recovers well. I am more concerned about how long he can remain healthy.
    ——————

    A year off, 38 years old…I don’t know. Cashman was saying the other day that their hope is that he can be “an above average” player.

  65. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    pat is right.

    If/when A-Rod is back on the field, YES’ rating will spike.

  66. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Going after the players for lying isn’t going to hold up.

  67. RayVT June 5th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    While I understand the anger & dismay at ARod & PEDs, let’s just let things play out first. There are tons of folks using PEDs or who have used them while playing MLB. So a report that condems ARod (who else would ESPN want to attack?), Braun (who made MLB look stupid B4) & Melky (Already Caught) and throws in another Yankee (Cervelli) seems a bit biased. You mean there are no stones to throw at anyone in Beantown?

    I believe nothing will happen this season to any of them. Next year maybe. If they let Biogenesis talk, there could literally be 100s or 1000s of folks implicated as well they should be! (Big Papi maybe?)

    All this said, 100 Games suspension next year would reduce payroll. Maybe this is what Stein had in mind!

  68. Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    All this said, 100 Games suspension next year would reduce payroll. Maybe this is what Stein had in mind!

    Doesn’t reduce the luxury tax payroll :) Also he would serve it while on the DL this year.

  69. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    AL average 3B: .265 .322 .437 .759

    I’ll take the over, Chip, at least short-term.

  70. Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Mike F. making sense.

  71. Chip June 5th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Going after the players for lying isn’t going to hold up.
    ——————

    Probably not, but nothing gambled nothing won. They’ll still get Braun and Alex for 50 games. Melky for 100.

  72. jacksquat June 5th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Chip June 5th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    Jerkface June 5th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I’ve been reading and searching the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program and I don’t see one reference to any punishment for lying about drug use.

    The only reason it worked on the minor league player is because the minor league player had no protection. Braun and A-rod are triple wrapped.
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    They’re going to use the language in Section 7 Part G Number 2: A player may be suspended for Just Cause for a violation of the program not specifically listed.

    In other words, if you do something involving steroids, like lie about your use of them, that could count as a violation.

    It’s really vague language that I’m surprised the PA lawyers let in.

    Nah, that’s not going to fly. And that’s not what it says, exactly.

  73. Hassey June 5th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    sweeping this good cleveland team would go a long way towards forming a scab over the recent 10-game wound.

    Is there anything more gut wrenching than the ebb and flow of a 162-game MLB season?

  74. joeman June 5th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Rich in NJ June 5th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    pat is right.

    If/when A-Rod is back on the field, YES’ rating will spike.

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    taking bets it don’t happen this year

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 5th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    test


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