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Support for A-Rod

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Yankees Rodriguez BaseballIf Alex Rodriguez gets suspended for 100 games by Major League Baseball, the Yankees will simply move forward.

“We haven’t had him the last two months,” Brett Gardner said. “It won’t change anything.”

You would think Rodriguez would appeal if there’s a penalty. But if a ban is announced, as Tuesday’s ESPN report indicated it would be for Rodriguez and about a total of 20 players over alleged ties to PEDs, the attitude in the clubhouse will be forgiving. That’s what CC Sabathia indicated.

“I think it’ll be support,” Sabathia said. “Everybody makes mistakes. We’ll just have to wait and see. But I think there will be nothing but love and support in here.”

Gardner said Rodriguez is like a brother to the players. Mariano Rivera said he doesn’t think he will bring up the current situation with Rodriguez, but he’s open to listening if A-Rod wants to share his thoughts.

Asked if he has sympathy for Rodriguez, who always seems to be in the middle of some controversy, the closer said, “He’s my friend. Besides that, he’s my teammate also. Definitely it’s not easy. It’s not easy to be on the cameras or in the papers, always being chased. But at the same time, all I have to do is support.”

Here’s a link to my full story today on this matter, complete with Terry Francona’s thoughts on who’s to blame, plus an attached video at the top that I shot of Joe Girardi talking about the situation. Also, here’s a link to my story today about Sabathia feeling encouraged after his last two starts, including yesterday’s complete game. I also shot a video of Girardi talking about Sabathia with that one. Thanks for reading the last three days. Chad will be back later to take you through the West Coast trip.

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618 Responses to “Support for A-Rod”

  1. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    MTU,

    The capacity for forgiveness is the best of humanity!! (even if we can’t ever really forget)

  2. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    Nice tan.

    ;)

  3. Mike Ri June 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    As long as he wears pinstripes , I’ll support him.

  4. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    And don’t forget Love Doreen.

    It has power over the Darkness.

    It is, in point of fact, the only power stronger.

    :)

  5. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    That’s that Florida Sunshine (the fountain of youth!!). ;)

  6. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 7:53 am

    “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

    Which means nobody on Terra Firma gets to toss even one.

    ;)

  7. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Doreen-

    I really don’t like humidity anymore having lived in the Southwest for nearly half my life.

    And I need to involve myself with the contours presented in topographic maps ( i.e Mountains).

    Which Fla. does not offer.

    It’s like God came along with a plane and flattened the place.

    :)

  8. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    In Life. You must choose.

    The steam bath or the sauna ?

    I chose the Sauna.

    :)

  9. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Rosy-

    Saw your reply last night.

    I know there is not a better fan in all the World than you.

    So perhaps you’re right and the M’s will be stronger for their ordeal.

    Who knows ?

    ;)

  10. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    I am not a fan of Florida.

    One of the most wonderful experiences I have had is flying in a window seat with clear skies from NJ to California. I snapped pictures the entire way. I loved seeing the differences in the terrain beneath me as we flew from east to west. And I knw I only got to see a portion, but it made me giddy.

  11. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    I won’t boo him, but if he is proven (to my satisfaction) to have taken PEDs after what happened in ’09 I won’t ever root for him either.

    Nice to see Nova throw so well last night. Six scoreless, two hits, six strikeouts. Huff was good too, three scoreless for the save. I think Nuno starts next.

  12. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Doreen-

    I’m glad for you. It is spectacular. Ours is a beautiful and bountiful land.

    I hope one day you’ll have the opportunity to explore some of that on foot.

    ;)

  13. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    Doreen-

    As a postscript.

    You may have noticed that I’ve gotten giddy walking about Utah and snapped a few photos here and there.

    So I can definitely relate.

    :)

  14. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 8:09 am

    MTU

    !!!

    :)

  15. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Doreen —-

    Coolest flight I was ever on was landing in Salt Lake City on a clear day….. beautiful mountains surrounding the deep blue water… breathtaking. Trying it again on way to SF in a month.

    I live in Florida… unless you love coastline there’s nothing to see flying in.

  16. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Doreen-

    Special gift from me to you.

    Start your morning right.

    I have these 4 hanging in a local Gallery :

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/ShowPhotos?authkey=Gv1sRgCPjRzfXGv_f_WA#

    Enjoy.

    :)

  17. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    86-

    You should check out Southern Utah sometime.

    ;)

  18. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    86-

    Watch out for those Mormons.

    :)

  19. upstate kate June 6th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Good morning all!

    Beautiful pix MTU.

    Good game yesterday, the way you want to end a home stand.

  20. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Thanks Kate.

    Glad you liked them.

    The cutest dog in the World has been sick for over a month now.

    Nasty skin infection.

    Hope the 2nd cutetest dog is faring better and that your Family is well.

  21. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    86w183

    I love the views from above, I love google maps, so even the Florida coastline amazes me. I like to try and guess where we are.

    We will probably retire to Florida, unless we can come up with a better plan than working at Disney World, my husband’s favorite place on earth. I told him he might want to think twice about making his playground into his workplace but I suspect anything other than what he does now would be blissful. He often will strike up conversation with older gentlemen who work there in retirement, and all of them love what they’re doing, especially getting to interact with the vacationers. I think there may be a wicked stepmother in my future!

  22. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Time for the most important meal of the Day.

  23. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Thanks, MTU. I always enjoy looking at your photographs.

  24. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    The Villages which is less than an hour’s drive North of Orlando is the most vibrant retiree-oriented community in the entire state. It’s a mini-city and growing quickly.

    MTU — Saw “The Book of Mormon” on Broadway two weeks ago so I’m ready!

  25. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    The pleasure is all mine Doreen.

    86-

    I forgot. You should be ready then.

    :)

  26. upstate kate June 6th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    MTU- hope your pup feels better soon. The 2nd cutest dog is doing well.

    My husband’s idea of moving south is Saratoga…Saratoga NY, so FL is not in my future :)

  27. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    Getting back to the Sun for a moment.

    I can see how many have/could worship it.

    Humans seek comfort and constancy in an uncertain World.

    When the Sun rises each day it brings Life and constancy.

    :)

  28. PacoDooley June 6th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    So much focus on A-Rod, but I find other players in this imbroglio more interesting. Like Braun, who seems to act like he never tested positive for PEDs, and Montero, who went from top prospect to total disappointment (perhaps after his PED use ceased).

    Other names? Those will likewise be interesting (I even find Cervelli on the list intriguing – he was having a nice return to form before the injury, I wonder why?)

  29. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Thanks Kate.

    At least you have visited Utah.

    Next time you must come by for a beer.

    :)

  30. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    Dooley-

    I’ve had a spotlight on Bautista for years.

    And Chris Davis has alarm bells ringing for me.

  31. upstate kate June 6th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Braun flew under the radar a bit, but, IIRC, first it was some herpes medication he was taking that caused a false positive, then it was about the specimen transportation.

    I don’t think Montero’s problems are PED related at all. He has been a big strong kid since we first heard about him at 19.
    Cervelli worked hard at AAA last year, and really was an adequate C before that. When they picked up Stewart, Cervelli was the one who had options, so he was the one to be sent down.

  32. upstate kate June 6th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Beer? Now you are talking my language MTU!

  33. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Kate-

    Ice cold beer !

    See ya’ next time.

    ;)

  34. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Well. It’s time to walk the Mop.

    Before it gets too hot.

    Gonna be over 100 here today.

    Later.

  35. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Am I reading the Daily News right…? Was this already discussed? I really don’t understand how this case will play out if the key witness tried to blackmail the players before turning against them.

  36. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    kate – It’s been nice seeing you pop in!

  37. blake June 6th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    The Rockies from a plane are one cool thing to see….I agree with Doreen that’s probably my favorite part about Flying …..the rest I could do without

  38. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Shame,

    I know. Actually good for Alex for not giving the guy money.

  39. CountryClub June 6th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    I mentioned yesterday that the Yanks would miss King Felix in this upcoming series. Of course, I was wrong. They never miss that guy!

  40. upstate kate June 6th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Why thanks Shame

  41. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    “Mike Ri June 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    As long as he wears pinstripes , I’ll support him”
    ==============================================
    as long as he wears the pinstripes, ill be a little less proud to be a yankee fan.

  42. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Doreen – This whole thing is bizarre. One thing I’m sure of: even if MLB gets the suspensions there’s no way they’ll be able to ban these guys.

    Seeing as how that would be the only thing that would help the Yankees, I could care less what the final results of this are. I just find the business, the PR, and the strategic side of all of this to be completely fascinating.

  43. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    If the players do get off without penalty, Braun’s press address will be classic I’m sure.

  44. Tackelberry June 6th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    ANyone gonna watch the Draft tonight? Will be intrigued since Yanks those 3 early picks. Tonight will cover round1, the Comp round, round 2, and the round 2 COmp round.

  45. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    bottom line is this: arod bought more peds and got caught.

    after the whole apology and the promise to teach the kids not to make the same mistakes he did.

    after he said he was going to help that family who’s kid died from steroids.

    selena roberts was right about him.

    he’s a dirtbag.

  46. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Braun has the gift of glib.

  47. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Tackle – I’m curious who they select as well.. but I have trouble putting a lot of stock in the MLB draft.

  48. CountryClub June 6th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I probably won’t watch the draft but I will pay attn online to who they pick.

  49. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Doreen – Glib is certainly one word for it! :D

  50. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    “I think fans care a great deal and have very strong opinions about PEDs when the matter is placed before them. Like, when the story like the one we’ve been tracking the past couple of days first breaks and/or when they are asked specifically about PEDs. I do not, however, think that PEDs are an issue that fans care about all that much in the day-to-day of their baseball fandom. I don’t think that it consumes anyone or changes their opinion about baseball in general. Yes, people say it does. They say it has soured them. But those anecdotal responses are simply not borne out in any tangible way when you look at attendance, revenue, TV ratings or people’s overall attitude about the game.”

    Calcaterra is a douche bag but he gets it. For the fans this is one big ‘meh.’

  51. K-V-C June 6th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Since A-Roid has never been suspended – why would the suspension from the Biogenisis mess be 100 games and not 50?

  52. blake June 6th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Since its draft day how about let’s talk about that instead of Arod?

  53. blake June 6th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Tackelberry says:
    June 6, 2013 at 9:23 am
    ANyone gonna watch the Draft tonight? Will be intrigued since Yanks those 3 early picks. Tonight will cover round1, the Comp round, round 2, and the round 2 COmp round.

    Of course…..I wanna see which three of Girardis friends kids they pick :)

  54. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    I don’t know any of the players in the draft this year. I like it when there’s a player or two of special interest. A local kid, say, like Rick a few years ago. SJ’s nephew. But knowing the Yankees never get to pick the cream of the crop, I’ve lost interest.

    That, plus, drafted players in baseball do not make immediate impact and may never pan out at all.

  55. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    blake June 6th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Since its draft day how about let’s talk about that instead of Arod?

    ————————-

    I wish the draft were a more interesting story. :D

    There’s not much to talk about until we determine the picks.

  56. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Rick Porcello. I don’t know why iPad deleted his last name on me!!!

  57. Kerry June 6th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Would love for this to happen: http://yanksinexile.com/josh-p.....mlb-draft/

  58. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    We have low 1st round picks, right?

  59. Tackelberry June 6th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    The one thing I worry about is that the Yanks will pass on some high ceiling players due to signing bonus concerns. THey might go conservative with a couple of picks, taking easy sign guys so they don’t blow their whole budget on rounds 1 & 2.

  60. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Kerry June 6th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Would love for this to happen: http://yanksinexile.com/josh-p…..mlb-draft/

    ———————-

    He could get HGH from his grandfather, just like daddy. :twisted:

  61. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Blake-

    I’d much rather talk about the draft than A-Rod.

    Who are the consensus picks for the Yankees ?

    ;)

  62. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Tackle – They shouldn’t go conservative with any of their first round picks.. beyond that, every pick is even more hit or miss.

  63. pat June 6th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    I’ve always wondered why a “clean” player who always says not everyone was doing it hasn’t partnered with the Hooten Foundation to help them further their cause.
    Alex and Andy Pettitte have seemed to do more work with them than any other MLB players.

  64. FanSince1948 June 6th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    I think I’ve given this link before, but it’s worth reading instead of parroting stuff that may/may not any validity whatsoever, without any basic knowledge. It’s long but quite comprehensive.

    http://steroids-and-baseball.com

  65. FanSince1948 June 6th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    …HAVE any validity

  66. FanSince1948 June 6th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Well, who are we gonna take today?

  67. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    ESPN

    “Should A-Rod retire before his contract is over, and his retirement is confirmed by doctors to be due to an injury that would make him physically unable to play, the Yankees would get 80 percent of what they owe A-Rod back through their insurance policy.”

    So in a medical retirement A-rod receives the remainder of his salary even though he is not on the field but 80% comes from an insurance company and 20% paid by the New York Yankees?

    Medically retire already!

  68. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    I hope the Yankees draft Strasburg, Harper, and Trout w their 1st 3 picks.

    :)

  69. blake June 6th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    “Who are the consensus picks for the Yankees ?”

    Wide range of guys they could pick…..Axisa at RAB always covers the draft really well and he’s previewed some potential picks over the last week or so.

  70. austinmac June 6th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Shame,

    Yep. Three picks between 26 and 33, as I recall.

  71. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Thanks blake.

    I’ll take a look.

    I don’t believe this draft class is considered a strong one ?

    You never know though. Plenty of diamonds found in the later rounds.

    Moore an 8th rounder, for instance.

  72. Chip June 6th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    ESPN

    “Should A-Rod retire before his contract is over, and his retirement is confirmed by doctors to be due to an injury that would make him physically unable to play, the Yankees would get 80 percent of what they owe A-Rod back through their insurance policy.”

    So in a medical retirement A-rod receives the remainder of his salary even though he is not on the field but 80% comes from an insurance company and 20% paid by the New York Yankees?

    Medically retire already!
    ———————–

    I can’t stand Alex at this point and wish he would go away – but nothing that has happened recently is going to change the fact that Alex wants to return, wants to keep playing and is working towards that goal.

    He’s not retiring, medically or otherwise.

  73. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Boesch went for an MRI?? Missed that.

  74. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    If he medically retires he gets ALL his money! Surely the Yankees can sit down and work out an agreement. He loses ZERO dollars.

  75. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    They need to bring in a long term 3B now and squeeze him out.

  76. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Buster-

    It’s not that simple.

    Drs. must certify that he is unable to play.

    That means Drs. from the insurance company as well.

    ;)

  77. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    I understand MTU, but I have hope. Two hip surgeries. He’s potentially one diving play away.

  78. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Headley can be had.

  79. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Yanks choose # 26, # 32 and # 33

    Can’t remember the last time the Yanks had three picks that early if it ever happened.

    Among the potential targets:

    College OF —- Aaron Judge (Fresno St) and Austin Wilson (Stanford)

    College 3B —- Eric Jagielo (Notre Dame)

    College LHP — Sean Manaua

    H.S. LHP ——- Rob Kaminsku (N.J.), Hunter Green (Ky)

    H.S. SS ——– Oscar Mercado (Fla)

    Three of those seven would be fine with me

    H.S. OF ——– Billy McKinney (Texas)

  80. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Medical Retirement just means he stops playing. Like Albert Belle. He remains on the Yankees 40 man roster, cluttering up their luxury tax with his contract and the offseason roster with his spot until he can be placed on the 60 day DL each year.

    Medical retirement is not a good option for the fans. Its only good for the steinbrenners because they can get insurance payments. Its the 2nd best thing for the Steins outside of actual retirement I guess.

  81. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    I hope the Yankees go high risk/ high reward with at least 1 of their 1st 3 picks.

    They’ll still have 2 more in the 1st round.

    It will be interesting to see if they target position guys or just go best available.

  82. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    What’s good for the Steins could be good for the fans in this case. If they receive insurance payments, that offsets luxury tax payments over the 189 mark. So it’s good for us if the Steins reinvest that money. It’s good for A-rod because he gets his money in FULL and does not have to even play a game.

  83. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    So it’s good for us if the Steins reinvest that money.

    And if they do not reinvest the money?

  84. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    MTU —-

    Generally this is viewed as a solid draft but lacking the great athletes/prospects at the very top. No one in the class of a Bryce Harvey, Strassburg etc

    I mentioned eight guys that I think are in the mix for the Yanks based on everything I’d read and scouts I’ve spoken with.

    Probably least interested in McKinney…. really want a LHP (Kaminsky, Green or Manaua) and college OF (Judge or Wilson). Mercado would be a long term SS possibility.

    FWIW I hear the Braves and Rays LOVE Hunter Green

  85. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Attendance is their incentive. They should reinvest the money wisely. If they don’t, they will learn.

  86. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    86-

    You seem really up on it.

    Thanks for the info.

  87. spidanyc June 6th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Sean Manaua, Rob Kaminsky and Aaron Judge in the 1st rd

    LJ Mazzili in the 2nd rd – Lee Mazzili’s kid

    Josh Petttitte in the 3rd rd – no need to explain

    Would anyone sign up for this?

  88. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Yanks could get at least 2 more extra picks for next year when Grandy and Hughes walk.

    Three if they can’t get Cano to sign.

  89. CountryClub June 6th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    My guess is that they pick 2 HS kids and 1 college kid. They like high upside HS players. But I think they’ll go after 1 college kid that might be able to help in the next couple of years.

  90. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    The fans will boo him. His HR chase is a mockery. He won’t make the HOF. His declining numbers and diminished skills should be an embarrassment to him. There is no reason to stay on the field.

  91. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    A-rod doesn’t have necrotic hip whatever like Belle and Napoli have, so medical retirement seems an unlikely option.

  92. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    The Red Sox have a very high pick.

  93. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    The slotting system has to have changed everyone’s strategy.

  94. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    “Instead, attendance is down more than 2 percent from the same date last season, according to MLB. And as the accompanying chart shows, five large-market teams — the Yankees, Rangers, Red Sox, Cubs and Phillies — rank among the nine clubs that have suffered the biggest drop-offs, according to STATS LLC.”

    Rosenthal: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....mes-060513

  95. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    We don’t know what he has because of HIPPA. But 2 hip surgeries helps build a case.

  96. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Allow draft pick trading.

    ;)

  97. pat June 6th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Tropical storm in Tampa keeping them off the field so far but Derek and Alex both inside working out at the minor league complex this morning.

  98. pat June 6th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    There is no reason to stay on the field.

    He likes to play.

  99. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Like to be a fly on the wall for those conversations.

    ;)

  100. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    We don’t know what he has because of HIPPA. But 2 hip surgeries helps build a case.

    It would likely be reported, like it was for Belle and Napoli, and there would be more articles about how endangered his physical well being is. You’re not ‘building a case’ to win like a court case that makes him medically retire. We know what hip disorder A-rod has and why he got his two surgeries. And we know that both don’t really endanger his physical ability to play, only potentially his skills upon return.

  101. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I didn’t realize the draft and nepotism were so closely related! :D

  102. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    He likes to be booed too? Fans will boo him.

  103. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Embarrassment isn’t a medically valid reason to not play and collect insurance money.

  104. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    We don’t know if those 2 surgeries are the last.

  105. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    ARod has been booed a good portion of his career since leaving Seattle. I don’t think the booing will keep him away.

    He will come back if only to prove to himself that he can come back from the hip surgery. A personal goal. If he can, and he is productive, it will be the same old same old, and people will cheer him when he is able to deliver.

    If he is unable to be productive, that’s when he has to make his decision.

  106. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    There is no such thing as embarrassment in Modern Society anyway.

    Shame is a thing of the past.

    :)

  107. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    It’s possible they already have a viable medically valid reason.

  108. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    There is no reason to stay on the field.

    ——————–

    There’s also no incentive to do MLB, the Yankees or their fans any favors.

  109. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    MTU – Shame is my past present and future!

  110. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    He likes to be booed too? Fans will boo him.

    ——————-

    He was booed when he was literally the best player in the league delivering some of the best seasons ever by a baseball player.

  111. pat June 6th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    “Fans will boo him.”

    and if he plays well they’ll cheer him. Same as the last 8 years.

  112. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Shame-

    Shame is the name of your game.

    or the game of your name.

    ;)

  113. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Medical retirement = still counts towards luxury tax so that would still suck

  114. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    But now he has an inability to silence his critics. He is severely diminished.

    1.067 – 2007
    .965 – 2008
    .933 – 2009
    .847 – 2010
    .823 – 2011
    .783 – 2012

    What are fans expectations for him, realistically, statistically?

    Does anyone have a desire for him to play out his contract? I’m not asking if anyone thinks he will. I’m asking if anyone WANTS him to play out this contract.

    I want him gone.

  115. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Many celebrities, i.e Hollywood types, athletes have a particular fondness for attention.

    And a need to be loved and idolized.

    Being rejected hits some of them pretty hard.

    If you’re a nobody to start with it’s easier to deal with.

    :)

  116. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Blake, not as much as it would suck if he played out the contract on the DH and the DL

  117. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    However if the Yanks could get 80% of his contract back then perhaps they wouldn’t care as much about paying the tax

  118. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    spidanyc —-

    Mazzilli is an eighth rounder at best. Pettitte not close to even that high.

    Two lefty pitchers and a college OF would be a nice combo

  119. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Does the rule count while randy is on hiatus?

  120. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    86-

    What about a SS and 3b ?

  121. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Blake, that would be my hope. Reinvest the money and shoot for higher attendance. I hope the Steins are learning their lesson this year. Could be.

  122. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    I think the 3 best outcomes with Alex in order of best to worst are
    1. He straight retires ( not happening)
    2. He comes back and at least produces something
    3. They eat money and trade him.

    Really anything else isn’t good

  123. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Shame-

    Randy probably lurks so technically he is not on haitus IMO.

    I don’t think he should have let anyone but his betting counterpart call him on that bet.

    But he decided to honor it anyway.

  124. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    It’s possible they already have a viable medically valid reason.

    How so? He is rehabbing and so far all good. Belle couldn’t even rehab, which is why he was forced into retirement. There have been no rumblings about A-rod having grandpa hip and the Doctor said he should be able to play and would have better motion in his hip.

  125. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    1. He straight retires (not happening)
    2. He has a 3rd hip surgery and medically retires (some precedent)
    3. They trade him for a bad contract

  126. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Buster-

    Hal thinks he has a competitive Team.

    What lesson do you think he’ll learn when that’s what he believes ?

    He feels he has put a winning Team on the field.

    I expect he’ll rationalize the lowered attendance in some other way.

  127. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    I mentioned a Florida kid, Oscar Mercado as a SS possibility in the first three picks.

    Jagielo from Notre Dame is a 3B possibility. Also Arizona H.S. prospect Dustin Peterson in the second round or Florida H.S. Christian Arroyo who could be a 3B or SS…. more likely 3B.

    Also in the 3rd round range two California SS possibilities — Chris Rivera and Trae Arbet

  128. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    MTU, I don’t believe that or else Hal would not be making these guest appearances and scrambling to save face. He senses we fans are onto him.

  129. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    How is there any precedent involving a 3rd surgery he doesn’t need… (yet)..?

  130. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    @BenBadler: Read what every GM in baseball is reading right now: The latest @jimcallisBA mock draft http://t.co/IKOoynViIT

  131. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Buster-

    I don’t believe Hal will spend one extra dime unless he feels he has to.

    Rationalizations include the following: Poor early season weather, the weak economy, Team injuries, etc, etc.

    My theory is that he is still a seller at some point anyway.

  132. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    @DannyKnoblerCBS

    MLB draft tonight. Here’s a look at the 30 top names to watch, from @JonHeymanCBS. http://cbsprt.co/10SWAkg

  133. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    The precedent for a future hip surgery is 2 prior hip surgeries. We think we know how his hip will hold up based on second hand information from doctors who may or may not be revealing the whole picture, but we don’t know. Now I don’t KNOW he will have a 3rd surgery, but it’s possible.

  134. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    86-

    Again, thanks for the info.

    Are any of those really good prospects or just the usual wing and a prayer types ?

    We definitely could use a strong SS prospect.

  135. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    How is there any precedent involving a 3rd surgery he doesn’t need… (yet)..?

    Maybe A-rod has a third hip. He had minor surgery + rehab on one, and major surgery on the other + rehab.

  136. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    MTU, the opportunity to reinvest the insurance payments to offset luxury tax payments is better than not having that option. So I’ll be rooting for a medical retirement.

  137. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Callis has them taking Jagielo, kaminisky, and McKinney with first 3

  138. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Who are the Red Sox going to draft?

  139. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    @SherryDarlingNJ

    Boston’s Gregory Campbell finished his shift on a broken leg last night. That’s why I can’t take baseball players seriously.

    Hehehehehehehe… Sherry is awesome.

  140. Doreen June 6th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    No one is trading for Alex Rodriguez.

  141. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    If you were the Red Sox who would you draft?

  142. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    I wish They could trade draft picks in MLB so they could trade up and get Colin Moran

  143. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    I doubt someone trades as well. They see his 2 hip surgeries, his steroid body breaking down and his plummeting numbers.

  144. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Jesus Bustero says:
    June 6, 2013 at 10:41 am
    Who are the Red Sox going to draft?

    Hall of Famers of course

  145. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    The Sox will probably target positions players (maybe a C?).. they seem to have gotten some pitching depth from the Dodgers.

  146. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    @johnmanuelba: Mock draft by @jimcallisBA includes news of labrum tear in hip for Indiana State’s Sean Manaea http://t.co/02kCQTyGzx

    Hey Alex could mentor him

  147. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Buster-

    Whatever floats your boat I guess.

    Hal Steinbrenner is a green eyshade mechanic FWIS. Loves his spreadsheets.

    I actually hope he sells to someone with a passion for being #1.

    Our baseball Team is not a hotel chain.

    A Mark Cuban type would work.

  148. mick June 6th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Randy probably lurks so technically he is not on haitus IMO.

    I don’t think he should have let anyone but his betting counterpart call him on that bet.

    But he decided to honor it anyway.
    =================
    Wasn’t

    That

    Convenient.

  149. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Callis has them taking Jagielo, kaminisky, and McKinney with first 3

    ************************************************************

    Those three guys are all on my list of top seven possibilities that I posted @ 10:00

    Callis really knows his stuff, which means I must too, right?!!?

    I’d really like them to get Wilson or Judge if available. Either/both could become a Jason Hayward or Giancarlo Stanton type of big, strong, athletic OF. They should also get a really good prospect in the second round and will end up with five of the top 100.

  150. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Blake-

    Didn’t that guy also fail a drug test of some type.

    Or was that someone else ?

  151. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Randy lost a bet?

  152. pat June 6th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    No one is trading for Alex Rodriguez.

    Would someone sign him if the Yankees released him?

  153. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Buster-

    Randy lost a bet to a non-existent poster.

    Stuckey no longer posts here.

    The bet was null and void because of it.

  154. Jerkface June 6th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Would someone sign him if the Yankees released him?

    For sure. A free A-rod? Sign some team up.

  155. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    “Would someone sign him if the Yankees released him?”

    Glamour magazine, or GQ maybe.

    :)

  156. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    MTU,

    Did Randy lose a bet to Stuckey?

  157. longtimefan June 6th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Lots of good posts here on the Arod situation, I appreciate others opinions, but in my opinion it is what it is Arod is a cheater, cheaters should not profit from cheating, if at all possible I would rather see the yankees try to void his present contract. That is not to single out Arod, everyone that has undisputeable proof of cheating should be treated the same. The Melky situation only serves to prove that cheaters are not receiving just punishment, a 50 game suspension and then go on to sign an $8 mill deal, where is the deterent, there is none.

  158. mick June 6th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Kaye thinks bloggers and twits don’t know anything.
    He said so on his show.
    #hewillnotbemuzzled

  159. blake June 6th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    MTU,
    Someone else I believe….he’s a top talent but is hurt

  160. mick June 6th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Stuckey no longer posts here.
    ==============
    not as sruckey

  161. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Buster-

    I believe so.

    But Stuckey hasn’t been around to collect it.

    I believe it was a Montero bet.

  162. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Mick, I could spot Stuckey from a mile away. He’s like the Tazmanian Devil.

  163. mick June 6th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    The Melky situation only serves to prove that cheaters are not receiving just punishment, a 50 game suspension and then go on to sign an $8 mill deal, where is the deterent, there is none.
    ================
    The deterrent is in not signing him, which we didn’t.
    To a few that wasn’t good enough, and it is only a few.

  164. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    “only serves to prove that cheaters are not receiving just punishment, a 50 game suspension and then go on to sign an $8 mill deal, where is the deterent, there is none.”

    MLB is not actually interested in addressing the PED culture and until they are there will be no deterrent. Only incentive to be smarter than these dumbasses getting caught.

  165. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Mick-

    Then he should return to Stuckey if he wants to collect it.

    ;)

  166. mick June 6th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Stuckey owed Nick money.

  167. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    MTU,

    What was the nature of the Montero bet between Stuckey and Randy and which existent poster called out Randy on the bet? Nick in SF?

  168. longtimefan June 6th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 10:56 am
    “only serves to prove that cheaters are not receiving just punishment, a 50 game suspension and then go on to sign an $8 mill deal, where is the deterent, there is none.”

    MLB is not actually interested in addressing the PED culture and until they are there will be no deterrent. Only incentive to be smarter than these dumbasses getting caught

    Unfortunely how true

  169. mick June 6th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Buster-
    In your opinion who are the top 5 posters?

  170. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Buster-

    Stuckey just liked debate.

    I think he loved playing the Devil’s advocate.

    He was very, very persistent, and provided an interesting, well-supported contrarian POV.

  171. mick June 6th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    what % of those here are lawyers, by trade?

  172. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Buster-

    I don’t know the exact details.

    Nick may have been one of them. Not sure.

  173. Tackelberry June 6th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “I’d really like them to get Wilson or Judge if available. Either/both could become a Jason Hayward or Giancarlo Stanton type of big, strong, athletic OF. They should also get a really good prospect in the second round and will end up with five of the top 100″

    I hear that Judge won’t get past Oakland at 24. If he does, I hope the Yanks grab him, but McKinney is considered one of the best pure hitters in the draft. One guy who I really hope they get in the 2nd round is H.S. OF Jordan Paroubeck. Switch hitting OF with tremendous power. Good Speed and a decent arm.

  174. pat June 6th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    JPosnanski
    Why is baseball being so aggressive on Biogenesis? I think it’s about Bud Selig and a legacy. http://on.msnbc.com/ZRPD4f

  175. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Mick-

    We have several that I know about.

    Trisha, Rich, Mac.

    It’s a popular Profession.

    ;)

  176. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Mick, I’m more of a specialization of labor kind of guy. Different posters bring different things to the table and also have weaknesses. For example, some of the posters more absorbed in minor league happenings tend to be also more absorbed in the smell of their own farts. Some of the posters who are more fun to talk baseball with don’t bother much with statistics. Some are just bitter and lame. To each their own.

    But if forced to play favorites – Mick, Blake, Nick in SF, MTU, Doreen, Austinmac, YsGuy, Joeman, Tomingeorgia, BigAL, Pat M., CB, LostNYY

  177. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    MTU,

    Tazmanian Devil’s Advocate

  178. blake June 6th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    pat says:
    June 6, 2013 at 11:03 am
    JPosnanski
    Why is baseball being so aggressive on Biogenesis? I think it’s about Bud Selig and a legacy. http://on.msnbc.com/ZRPD4f

    Of course it is

  179. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Left out G. Love. I like reading his material and he’s a great conversationalist.

  180. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Buster-

    Yes OK. That seems fair.

    Lot’s of pitbull thrown in too.

    :)

  181. mick June 6th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    But if forced to play favorites – Mick, Blake, Nick in SF, MTU, Doreen, Austinmac, YsGuy, Joeman, Tomingeorgia, BigAL, Pat M., CB, LostNYY
    ================
    Wow! The omissions of Randy and Trish are glaring.

  182. ac1 June 6th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Yanks could get at least 2 more extra picks for next year when Grandy and Hughes walk.
    ___

    I’d be worried Hughes would take the QO.
    This idea he will magically get a 4 year offer is crazy.
    He is having a typical Hughes year where his ERA sits over 5.
    And this is his walk year. He should be better than his average.
    He has rarely proven he can be better for an entire year.
    If we are trying to use Abibal Sanchez as an example, I think his highs made him worth the risk for the Tigers.

  183. bruceb June 6th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Trisha is a lawyer? Don’t want to be in the court the day she gives her summing up :)

  184. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    G. Love would be an example of a poster that even when in disagreement, it’s pleasant to listen to his insights and rants.

  185. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Hughes will easily be able to get a multi-year deal if he stays healthy.

    If the Yanks are not the ones then perhaps a West coast Team.

    No danger w a QO to Hughes IMO.

    He won’t take it.

  186. mick June 6th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Mick, I’m more of a specialization of labor kind of guy.
    =================
    Then I will reword it:
    If you had to categorize them by say…humor, insight, credibility, etc…
    Those are the positive traits.
    Negative deserves some credit too , heh?
    There would be gloomy, most often wrong or not credible, all the opposites of the positives.

  187. mick June 6th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    G. Love is right up there Buster.

  188. Jesus Bustero June 6th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    This would be Hughes first opportunity at long term security. I think he would take a 3 year deal in an NL pitcher’s park like SF or SD. I’d definitely offer him, same with Granderson. BJ Upton got 75 million and never put together 2 back-to-back 40 HR seasons.

  189. mick June 6th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Most positive would have to be Trish, hands down.

  190. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Tackelberry —-

    Don’t know much about Paroubek but he’s in the right range for round two depending on what they do with the first three picks. I know they don’t do it, but I believe in balance in your high drafting too.

    McKinney can hit but I was told he has a below average LF throwing arm and isn’t a great athlete.

  191. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Bruce-

    Trisha has a big heart. And she is tenacious in fighting for the little guy. A trait I admire.

    You may not know or care about this but her Mother was one of the 1st female graduates of MIT.

    A brilliant woman. I think Trisha follows in her Mother’s footsteps.

    She is super bright.

    You might not like her religious nature or strict moral code but I would love having her fighting for me in my corner.

    She is loyal to the point of a fault.

    She sometimes is her own worst enemy around here.

    If you drank a beer with her I’d bet you’d like her very, very much.

    :)

  192. Tackelberry June 6th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Also Cano, just in case he doesn’t sign a long term deal with Yanks

  193. 86w183 June 6th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    At first I was deeply I hurt that I don’t even crack the top 15 posters.

    But then, realizing the person doing the ranking used the phrase “absorbed in the smell of their own farts” I felt much better.

  194. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    LoHud superlatives > LoHud draft rankings.

  195. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    When I drink I like most people a lot more too, MTU. The whole ‘holding back my hair while I puke’ tends to be a real bonding moment.

  196. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Shame-

    Sounds like you need to take it easy on the Bourbon or Tequila.

    You are another of my favorite LoHud Women.

    But I think you know that.

    :)

  197. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Believe or not but SJ was one of my favorite posters.

    I learned a lot about the inner workings f baseball from him.

    And I’m surprised no one mentioned Pat M.

    The same. Knows the game. Good guy to learn from.

    Love his inside tips too.

    ;)

  198. Warning Track Power June 6th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    So let me get this straight. Tony Bosch was broke, asked ARod for financial help. When ARod declined, Tony Bosch decided to went to MLB.

    WOW!!!

    Tony Bosch can not be trusted. How can MLB put all their eggs in 1 basket with this guy?
    I don’t understand.
    I believe MLB is even more desperate than Tony Bosch.

  199. G. Love June 6th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I’m not looking forward to the return of Arod. To be honest, the nonsense in the playoffs with the girls in the stands turned me off of him.

    As for his being dumb enough to do PED’s again, well he was dumb enough to lie many times about being clean.

    I think part of his life is to live a lie and present an image that is manufactured and that is why it fails.

    He’s going to be another Clemens/Bonds type who is going to use legal loopholes to fight his way back. They’ll use semantics and every trick in the book to “clear his name”.

    And I’m sure he’ll suit up again unless the owners of the team have decided they won’t let that happen again.

    But this 2nd contract with him has been a mushroom cloud. We got a great 2009 run with him out of it and he’s had a lot of great moments here as a Yankee. But for me, I’m not interested in seeing him continue his pursuit of “perfection” here.

    When they write the story on him, the chapter about him being jealous of Jeter is going to be huge. There’s so much to glean about his character from that. Especially, since Jeter has never been caught or even truly suspected to be a PED user.

    And if he chooses medical retirement, the Steinbrothers better just take that 80% and use it for luxury tax/over the cap penalties to improve the team.

    If they get that money back from insurance and still try to stay under the cap, I’ll never go to another Yankee game again and I’m not kidding. And not only that, I’ll start a blog to destroy their reputation with the fans that hopefully starts a movement to get them to sell.

    Him medically retiring means they need to spend that money they’re getting back and not pocket it.

  200. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Many disliked GB for his onry nature but the Man knew his baseball.

    A virtual encyclopaedia of baseball, and great MiLB insights.

    Much like YF and JAP.

    I learned a lot from so many here.

    Please don’t be offended if I happened to not mention you.

    It’s just that I’m old and senile.

    :)

  201. Chip June 6th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Just a vain attempt to change the topic:

    Nova, Montgomery and Mason Williams to the Brewers for Jonathan Lucroy and Carlos Gomez?

  202. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    “Tony Bosch can not be trusted. How can MLB put all their eggs in 1 basket with this guy?”
    ——————————————————–
    is arod more trustworthy? is ryan braun more trustworthy? melky?

    and who said all their eggs are in one basket? baseball says they are pursuing all angles to get the evidence they need. just because espn got the story that they are getting boesch’s cooperation, why do you assume that’s all they have?

  203. CompassRosy June 6th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    A little something to make us all feel old . . .

    The following players/ex-players have sons in the MLB draft today. . .

    Craig Biggio
    Roger Clemens
    Torii Hunter
    Jamie Moyer
    Andy Pettitte
    Manny Ramirez

  204. Warning Track Power June 6th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Ys Guy-
    I don’t trust MLB or Tony Bosch. I trust ARod and Braun slightly more.
    That being said, what MLB is doing is a disgrace. These players are guilty in the eyes of the public now. No matter what happens, these players will be linked to PED’d.
    Gino Gonzalez was on that list. He was persecuted in the press and recently it was revealed what he did purchase was legal.
    So mistakes can happen. MLB is on a mission to punish someone, anybody in the game to make up for the HUGE oversights MLB made over 10 years ago.

  205. bruceb June 6th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    MTU

    I’ve had my ups and downs with Trisha, but we’ve always remained on friendly terms. She was kind enough to send me some excellent bars of chocolate for winning the MLB playoff competition last year and made damn sure I got them.

    She’s far and away the most positive poster on this board (hope her prediction that the Yanks win 97 games this year comes true) but sometimes her desire to remain optimistic – even at the darkest of times – leads to her shooting down other people’s views and arguments.

    Wish I could be as positive as her, but it’s just not in my nature. Once a curmudgeon, always a curmudgeon!

  206. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    so wtp, by your standards, that even accusing them of cheating hurts thier stature, then any prominent person, say like an oj simpson should never be charged with a crime by authorities because prior to trial the public will see them as guilty no matter what happens.

    also as far as gio gonzalez goes, baseball has already said he is not a target.

    mistakes do happen, thats not an excuse for allowing cheaters to cheat.

  207. pat June 6th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    A million fans at $100 each would cover what the Steinbrenner’s owe Alex. Send Hal your check and get the ball rolling.

  208. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    These guys are mostly just a bunch of sociopaths.. but that includes guys like Selig, IMO. No real winners here. Certainly not us.

    MTU – I know, buddy! ;)

    I have developed a throw up free drink.. I’m working on a name for it. 1:1 ratio of wine and champagne, a fair bit of Jack Daniels, and a couple splashes of juice. It’s delicious. It isn’t really jungle juice… It needs a name…

  209. ac1 June 6th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    So mistakes can happen. MLB is on a mission to punish someone, anybody in the game to make up for the HUGE oversights MLB made over 10 years ago.
    ___

    Selig should be fired and then we can start taking this seriously.

    Then the Players Association should show they care too and change these weak punishments to what some of us talked about yesterday.

    1st: 1 year suspension, voided contract, 1st year back at league minimum
    2nd: 2 year suspension, voided contract, can only sign league minimum deals for remainder of career
    3rd: Ban!

    No way players should be able to choose the 50 game suspension in order to benefit after like Melky did with his Jays contract.

  210. astrocityfan June 6th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Thanks Rosy lol
    I felt old enough last year when i found out glen rice had a son in college. i remember him during the michigan championship run when i was in college. So that means i am old enough to have a son in college now sigh

  211. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    ” pat June 6th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    A million fans at $100 each would cover what the Steinbrenner’s owe Alex. Send Hal your check and get the ball rolling.”
    —————————————————
    im all for the buyout campaign, except im going with 1000 people giving a million each. cause i aint pitching in a cent for either millionaire.

  212. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    MLB needs McNulty!!!!

  213. G. Love June 6th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Shame,

    Call the drink “Regret”

  214. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    andy van slyke’s son is in mlb, too.

  215. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Rosy – Thanks for that!

    Andy’s son has a pretty interesting Twitter account. He seems to believe the end of days may be near. Fascinating.

    ac – There are certainly better ways to fight the problem.

  216. Warning Track Power June 6th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:39 am
    so wtp, by your standards, that even accusing them of cheating hurts thier stature, then any prominent person, say like an oj simpson should never be charged with a crime by authorities because prior to trial the public will see them as guilty no matter what happens.

    also as far as gio gonzalez goes, baseball has already said he is not a target.

    mistakes do happen, thats not an excuse for allowing cheaters to cheat.
    ————————————————————————————————————-
    Did you really just compare OJ to the situation in baseball?
    Some accused of murder vs. baseball players accused of using PED’s?
    C’mon man :(

  217. Shame Spencer June 6th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    G. Love – Oooooo, I like that…

    I really enjoy alliteration. Can anyone think of a drink reference that starts with ‘r’?

  218. pat June 6th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    YsGuy

    You want Hal to spend a hundred million but you don’t want to spend $100?

    I would spend $100 to make something I don’t like go away.

  219. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    pat, i was dead set against resigning dirtbag arod in the first place. hal entered into the contract, not me. ill throw hal $100 towards arod if hal pays off the gym club membership i signed up for but never use…

  220. CompassRosy June 6th, 2013 at 11:51 am

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    pat, i was dead set against resigning dirtbag arod in the first place. hal entered into the contract, not me. ill throw hal $100 towards arod if hal pays off the gym club membership i signed up for but never use…
    ————–

    Yankees should have gone after Miggy Cabrera instead. Hughes, Kennedy and Austin Jackson for Cabrera and Dontrelle (same as what went back to Detroit)

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    Draft day reminds me of how irritated I am with the NYY for not using their resources to land some the significant international talent available over the last few years (Puig, Cespedes, Soler, Darvish).

    They team will, I hope, learn that great franchises only stay great as long as they are winning. They have insane amounts of money and would do well to spend a chunk to fuel their continued success (yes, a high payroll this year, but I am talking about the future)

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    Ys

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  226. blake June 6th, 2013 at 11:55 am

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    They could probably buy another soccer team or a few hotels with that money too

  227. blake June 6th, 2013 at 11:58 am

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  228. Warning Track Power June 6th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 11:51 am
    wtp totally skipped my point. by your standard, any prominent person cannot be charged with anything because the public will consider them guilty before trial.
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    The damage has been done. Whether or not these 20 players are proven to be innocent, public perception will say those players are PED users because their names were linked with PED’s.
    MLB buried their head in the sand for all these years and suddenly they are attempting to make up for lost time by associating themselves with someone like Tony Bosch.
    A desperate man who is willing to say anything and everything in exchange for having a lawsuit from MLB dropped.

  229. bruceb June 6th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    It’s all about the expectation level, Rosy. When the Yanks lose seven games in eight days, it’s the sporting version of the stock market crash.

    Imagine how things would be around here this morning if we’d just lost a game in 16 innings after coming from 5-0 behind to tie it in the 14th?

  230. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Dooley-

    The fact that the Yankees did indeed pass on those guys when it was only money is part of what I use as a clue that Hal wants to sell.

    It’s either that or they really missed with their scouting.

    By the way, you left out Chapman.

    ;)

  231. Ys Guy June 6th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    so there’s another guy who complains that mlb didnt go after cheats before and now complaing that the ARE going after cheats now.

    so what you’re saying is that whatever they do, you’re going to criticize it.

  232. MTU June 6th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Blake-

    We have a poster on here known as “Bronx Born”. You may recall him.

    He is the Poet Laureate for a group known as “Youth for Human Rights”.

    The Organization basically attempts to stop worldwide child abuse and smuggling, etc.

    If you want a place for that $100 that’s as good one as any.

    ;)

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    blake

    Think of all the ways you blow $100 in a month and never feel guilty about it. 1 Starbucks a day. 1 meal out a week. 1 months cable bill.

    $100 seems a bargain to not have to complain about the same thing for 4 years.

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    MTU,
    Yes I’ve seen his posts….if I were gonna give 100 bucks to something Id much rather do it for that than to put into Hals pocket for Arod

  236. Chip June 6th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Warning Track Power -

    Whether MLB buried its head in the sand before is irrelevant. Whether PED’s actually improve performance is irrelevant. Whether Alex Rodriguez is an a-hole is irrelevant.

    What matters right now is this:

    1. PED use is banned in baseball. This is an agreement that was reached between the league and players.
    2. Players who still use PEDs should be rooted out and punished for breaking those rules, just as players who argue balls and strikes are punished for breaking that rule.
    3. People settle lawsuits for money all the time in this country. In this case MLB is settling for information. Now, whether an arbitration panel feels that testimony is credible or not, MLB at least wants them to hear it and this is a way of making that happen.

  237. Warning Track Power June 6th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    bruceb June 6th, 2013 at 11:59 am
    It’s all about the expectation level, Rosy. When the Yanks lose seven games in eight days, it’s the sporting version of the stock market crash.
    ————————————————————————–
    I like your sense of humor. Thanks for the hilarious description. Made my morning!

  238. blake June 6th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    “Think of all the ways you blow $100 in a month and never feel guilty about it. 1 Starbucks a day. 1 meal out a week. 1 months cable bill.”

    None of those things involve me helping bail out a billionaire who doesn’t need bailing out…..that said….I think it would be very interesting how much money could be raised if someone started a donation thing like this…..maybe Hal woukd feel bad and donate it all and buy Alex out anyway

  239. Warning Track Power June 6th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Chip June 6th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    Warning Track Power -

    Whether MLB buried its head in the sand before is irrelevant. Whether PED’s actually improve performance is irrelevant. Whether Alex Rodriguez is an a-hole is irrelevant.

    What matters right now is this:

    1. PED use is banned in baseball. This is an agreement that was reached between the league and players.
    2. Players who still use PEDs should be rooted out and punished for breaking those rules, just as players who argue balls and strikes are punished for breaking that rule.
    3. People settle lawsuits for money all the time in this country. In this case MLB is settling for information. Now, whether an arbitration panel feels that testimony is credible or not, MLB at least wants them to hear it and this is a way of making that happen.
    —————————————————————————————————-
    Chip-
    MLB not only wants to hear what Tony Bosch has to say, they are basing their entire case
    on what Tony Bosch has to say.
    This is a man(Tony) who only last month on camera he told Pedro Gomez that he was not involved at all.
    Suddenly and after some financial hardship, Tony wants to spill the beans. Funny how he only wants to make this happen after making a deal to have a lawsuit against him dropped.
    I’m sorry, but to me this makes Tony Bosch a very, very questionable “witness” in this matter.

  240. PacoDooley June 6th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    MTU June 6th, 2013 at 11:59 am
    Dooley-

    The fact that the Yankees did indeed pass on those guys when it was only money is part of what I use as a clue that Hal wants to sell.

    It’s either that or they really missed with their scouting.

    By the way, you left out Chapman.
    ——————————————-

    I probably would have passed on Chapman from what I understood – a lot of money for a relief pitcher. I also wasn’t convinced by Soler. The team should have the scouting in place to hit with the right ones, and a willingness to lose occasionally without getting gun shy.

    These are investments – they do not appreciate how their flow of talent is what has built the team into the valuable franchise it is. Without guys like Jeter, Mo, Cano, Posada etc., this team would not be worth nearly what it is today.

    Just look at a team like Man United. They are among the most valuable franchises in the world, not because they play in a large or wealthy city (they do not), but because they have had a great winning tradition for a couple of decades. They spend a LOT of money on talent (granted in a sport where there are no trades – you purchase players)/

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    I just want to see the other 20 names already. Why just leak a few? Give us all 20 please. Now.

  242. DONNYBROOK June 6th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

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    Gardner is lookin’ like Johnny Damon at the plate. Spray balls the other way, until he can turn on one middle-in. NICE
    Hafner is lookin’ like Adam Dunn. Chucker happens to make a mistake, it gets Parked. Short of that, he’s “grabbin’ some bench”. INCONSISTENT
    CC is lookin’ like CC. UNIQUE

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    A long time ago a Man named Deming taught the world about “quality”.

    In his case, the reference was to Automobile Manufacturing.

    One of his key tenets was that “quality” is a “process”. It is the result of multiple things being done well.

    I believe his principles are applicable not just to Cars but to almost anything where a certain quality output is required.

    I think Baseball quality can be one of them.

    Therefore, the Yankees need to get the “quality process” right. It must be applied to every facet of their Organization.

    When they do that the result will be totally evident and the Yankees will stand heads and shoulders above their competitors for a long time to come.

    The “quality” will be built in.

    Think they have that done yet ?

    ;)

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