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Postgame notes: “Fortunately, Joe had confidence in me”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 09, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mariano Rivera, Chris Stewart

Chris Stewart knows he’s not necessarily the guy you wanted at the plate in that ninth inning. He knows there were better resumes on the bench: A three-time all-star, a left-handed hitter with 29 RBI, even a rookie who’d shown an early ability to make hard contact.

“Usually I don’t even get a chance to be in that spot, especially with a right-hander out there,” Stewart said. “Fortunately, Joe had confidence in me, and I went out there trying to see a ball up and out over the plate, and fortunately he left one for me and I was able to sneak it through the hole.”

Stewart’s game-winning RBI single was his second hit of the day, and it raised his batting average to .276, the second-highest on the team behind Brett Gardner and ahead of Robinson Cano. Stewart hasn’t hit for much power, but he’s gotten on base at a decent rate, and he’s been a surprisingly solid source of offense at the bottom of the order. Girardi stuck with him in a tied game, with two outs in the ninth and the go-ahead run at second base. Kevin Youkilis was available, Lyle Overbay was available and David Adams was available. Stewart came through.

“We talked a little bit about Overbay hitting somewhere at the bottom of the order, but we knew they’d bring in their lefty and then we’d have to make another change,” Girardi said. “We liked the idea of the matchup with Stew, and we left it. … Without getting too much into it, K-Long and I talked about it. K-Long liked the matchup, and I did, too. We stuck with him. Sometimes you’re thinking about your hitter and what he likes.”

Stewart’s game-winner game on a 97 mph fastball, giving the Yankees a late lead for the greatest closer in baseball. The offense is still struggling, but the Yankees won three of four here in Seattle.

“I’m going to hit until Joe tells me I’m not,” Stewart said. “I don’t want to be in a situation where I’m playing a guessing game up there and then I end up going up to hit and my mind’s elsewhere. I want to make sure my mind’s right going up, and if Joe pulls me, then Joe pulls me. … It’s a huge confidence booster (that Girardi didn’t pinch hit). Joe felt good about the situation, and I felt good going into it. I know I’ve been seeing good pitches and putting good swings on the ball. Fortunately I had another one.”

David Phelps• Six innings, one run, three hits by David Phelps. Yet Phelps seemed disappointed. “It’s refreshing, but that’s not how I want to pitch,” he said. “That’s two in a row where I’ve really had to battle. They’re making plays behind me, which is huge. … I was still throwing stuff all over the place today. It was a battle, that’s for sure.”

• Both Phelps and Stewart acknowledged that Phelps’ fastball command got much better later in the game, in fact, Phelps said he was “really locked in” the last three innings, but the command wasn’t really there in the early innings. All of Phelps base runners came in the first three innings. “Fastball command, that’s what it was,” Phelps said. “I’m getting by right now because I’m able to throw my offspeed stuff for strikes, but I’ve got to have my fastball to be successful in the long run.”

• If you’re looking for something mechanical, Phelps said his adjustment had to do with staying over his back leg a little longer. It’s something he and Larry Rothschild had talked about. “I was able to get down through the pitches a little easier and hit my spots a little more,” Phelps said.

• Four-hit day for Brett Gardner, who’s actually hit better than .300 against Hernandez in his career. “I’m not sure (why),” Gardner said. “He’s a guy that has real good stuff. I’ve always just tried to bear down and have good at-bats against him. I don’t really have an answer for you.”

• Gardner now has the highest batting average on the team. He’s hit in 15 of his past 17 games, but his stolen base in the first inning was his first stolen base since May 16, when he’d stolen four bases in a span of three games. Weird. He’s so oddly streaky about running.

Ichiro Suzuki• Jayson Nix has a five-game hitting streak. He’s hit in 12 of his past 13 games in which he’s had an at-bat, hitting .340 in that span. “I know we kind of make a joke of it, but he’s a ballplayer,” Girardi said. “That’s what he is. He’s an old-school guy that just finds ways to get the job done.”

• Youkilis was available if necessary. “I think I could have used him, but my goal was to stay away from him today,” Girardi said.

• Ichiro said he felt some relief to get that ninth-inning walk and score from second base, if only because it erased some of the memory of dropping a fly ball in foul territory. The drop didn’t hurt the Yankees, but it was fairly stunning. Ichiro said he remembered dropping only one other fly ball in his big league career. “I don’t know if I’ve ever seen Ich drop a ball,” Girardi said. “I probably never will again, either.”

• Here’s Ichiro explaining what happened on that play: “Obviously I was able to get there, so I needed to make that play. There were a lot of fans out there today, and they were pretty loud, so I kind of hesitated a little bit thinking that maybe Robbie didn’t hear me. I called it, but because it was so loud, I thought maybe he didn’t hear. But I got there so I needed to make that play.”

• Stewart made a fairly crazy comparison about reliever Yoervis Medina: “The guy was similar to Felix,” Stewart said. “I think it kind of helped. He had a kind of similar fastball — a sinking fastball — so I think it kind of helped. Felix was kind of pounding me down and in the whole day, and the guy kind of left a pitch out over the plate, same kind of pitch sinking down, and Felix kind of set me up for him. I didn’t have to face Perez out there, because it’s completely the opposite of Felix. It was kind of similar when Medina came in.”

• If you’re curious, Girardi said Michael Pineda threw 68 pitches today and got his fastball up to 95 mph.

• Final word goes to Ichiro: “I do think it’s big to beat their best. I think that has some effect on us, as a team, so it is big. It’s tough to say why it’s good, but just the atmosphere after the game, it can go into something else. Of course, everybody wants to do something, overcome something that’s difficult, so when you beat their best, there’s gratification.”

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101 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Fortunately, Joe had confidence in me””

  1. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    • If you’re curious, Girardi said Michael Pineda threw 68 pitches today and got his fastball up to 95 mph

    ____________

    Friggin’ awesome.

    Sell high on Phelps.

  2. mick June 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    David Phelps• Six innings, one run, three hits by David Phelps. Yet Phelps seemed disappointed. “It’s refreshing, but that’s not how I want to pitch,” he said. “That’s two in a row where I’ve really had to battle. They’re making plays behind me, which is huge. … I was still throwing stuff all over the place today. It was a battle, that’s for sure.”
    ==============================
    there’s the difference. where ipk would think his sh!t don’t stink, phelps is looking to correct like andy and cc, who are also pitchers.

    make way mr hughes this guy gets the alcs start over you…

  3. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    You guys all go out and have a nice seafood dinner.

    Some of the best around in Seattle.

    You earned it.

    Good microbrews up there too.

    ;)

  4. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Mick if Phelps is not traded or if Pineda is not dominating, I would want Phelps in game 4 as well – definitely not Phil Hughes.

  5. mick June 9th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    phelps isn’t getting traded, stop smoking those sardines.

  6. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    MTU,

    I’ve decided I want to settle in Seattle, VA Beach or Asheville.

    They’re all very progressive places with tons of activity and free thinking.

  7. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Buster-

    I go with Asheville.

    ;)

  8. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Well Mick I’d rather have Headley in the lineup for games 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and Pineda on the mound in Game 4 than Phelps in Game 4 and Youkilis or Nix for games 1-7.

  9. Madrugador June 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Hope Hughes goes free agent and is signed by the Sox so he can be a fly ball pitcher with the Pesky poll and the Green Monster.

  10. mick June 9th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    pesky pole

  11. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Asheville is my first choice as well, got my eye on an 1940′s Southern Craftsman style home with covered porch, original hardwoods and nearly 3 acres of land for goats, hens, rabbits and an organic garden. I’m going to bid 50K on it. It’s tucked away in the mountains, needs lots of work. My idea is to start a homestead/commune and hire artisan hippies to do home improvement work for shelter and farm for food. And if I decide to charge them a small fee for rent I’ll set up a fund for solar panels and let them know that every dollar is going into energy independence. Asheville is all about self-sufficiency and breaking out of the system and working together. The property is zoned for retail so I could start a small health store with local foods, vitamins and an herbalism section, also have a friend who restores antique furniture and gets stuff from restoration jobs on old Southern homes. You should see his portfolio. As an artist you’d surely appreciate its majesty.

  12. Madrugador June 9th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Pesky pole. Thanks.

  13. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Buster-

    I like your plan. Execute it.

    Did something similar years ago. Got off the grid.

    Had 5 acres and security.

    Ultimately Mrs. MTU did not like it. Too cold for her at 7,700 ft.

    There were times out there that the whole World seemed to be ours.

    I can relate.

  14. Madrugador June 9th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Not sure why anyone would trust too much in Pineda who hasn’t pitched in the bigs since his labrum was repaired. Wonder how it is going to hold up? Maybe like many others before him, he will never be successful. Time will tell.

  15. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    My older brother initiated the process years ago up in CT. I always wondered why he was so reclusive. He was apparently way ahead of its time. The world misunderstands the individual.

    It must have felt empowering to break free like that.

  16. mick June 9th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    lebron is ahead of his time.
    he is taking tonite off to make his teammates step up and it is working…

  17. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Buster-

    It was unique experience.

    As you know I love the Wilderness.

    I needed Binocs to see my nearest neighbor.

    The remotness was a pleasure.

    My 40 mile ride to work each day was filled with beauty.

    I never minded it.

  18. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    sp: remoteness

  19. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Buster-

    Mrs. MTU and I have tried many different types of lifestyles.

    We lived on a sailboat.

    Owned property on a tropical island and built our own dwelling.

    Lived and worked in a foriegn country.

    And have gone off the grid out in the Mountains of New Mexico.

    It’s been a trip.

    Wouldn’t trade a moment of it. Learned a lot. Experienced a lot.

  20. Jesus Bustero June 9th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    My commute to work would be about 40 miles of open terrain as well, MTU. So it’s worth it? Just as I suspected. If I end up there I’m going to document the transformation of me and my home leaving the grid. I’ll start a series on my own YouTube channel and archive it for posterity, let them know what the world is like now and why I went against the grain and chose to strive for independence and how I got there.

  21. Madrugador June 9th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    It is refreshing to see people care about spelling.
    Tomorrow is another day albeit an off day.

  22. Bo knows June 9th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Remoteness is what we call them’s as got the remote.

  23. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Buster-

    For me. Definitely worth it.

    I’m an old Man now but we had fun.

    And we weren’t afraid to try things.

    Youth is the time to do that.

    If that is your dream I say persue it. You’re smart and determined.

    What good is a Man w/o dreams ?

    We all have our journey. This is the time for yours.

    ;)

  24. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    Mag-

    You should have know my Father.

    He sure cared.

    ;)

  25. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    Bo-

    :)

  26. Bo knows June 9th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Damn, it’s like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Was it pursue or peruse?

  27. theREALkevin June 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    I think Phelps, ramirez and Murphy is giving away too much talent for Headley. Who replaces phelps right now anyway? Pineda? Too much of a question mark still. Who knows exactly when he’ll be back and if he will even stay healthy after that. Phelps is already a big contributor and there’s a high chance Ramirez and Murphy will be contributers of some level at some point. For that package I need a guy that’s a little more dynamic than headley.

    Another factor is I think headley is only under control til 2014. Do u trade for him and immediately extend him? If not, and if for any reason u let him walk after 2014, u just traded that very talented package for 1.5 possibly mediocre seasons of chase headley. I say mediocre b/c if u assume they don’t re-sign him it’s
    possible it’s cuz he didn’t produce. Overall ive just never been a huge headley fan and while I wouldnt mind a trade for him I just wouldn’t want to give up all that much.

  28. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Bo-

    I’m dyslexic now.

    Sorry.

    :(

  29. Bo knows June 9th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    It’s like “Your remoteness, would you deign to tune into channel 13, the Oilers just fired their coach.”

  30. 4TrainNorth June 9th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Gardner running away with the team batting title.

  31. Bo knows June 9th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    I’m dyslexic now.

    Sorry.
    ———-
    What can I say? It was there. After the compliment on spelling.

    I’ve just got a weak character.

  32. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    headley is an unknown and hal and cash don’t like the unknown.
    he could be soft, hate NY, so many things…
    believe it or not they are trying to rebuild something here and are not going to rely on pie in the sky “superstars” like hamilton, how’s he doing, or pujols.

  33. theREALkevin June 9th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    And “selling high” on phelps doesn’t make sense. It’s not the same concept as with Montero. For hitters it can take longer to see if they can hit MLB pitching. His performance could have been a mirage that second half and maybe it was. It was also cloudy as I whether he could catch.

    With pitchers it’s easier to tell sooner if they’re legit. Phelps stuff is not going to disappear, his smarts arent going to disappear. It’s unlikely his value will deteriorate much unless u consider yrs of control decreasing. I would bet on pretty consistent results from him, or even better if traded to the NL west. Therefore u wouldn’t be selling high on him in the way they maybe did with Montero (altho selling high normally doesn’t mean getting a guy that immediately misses 1.5 seasons)

  34. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    lebron is ahead of his time.
    he is taking tonite off to make his teammates step up and it is working…
    =================
    or maybe its me…1/2 hour ago it was even , now they are up 18

  35. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Bo-

    No worries.

    ;)

  36. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    22

  37. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    24

  38. Bo knows June 9th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Gardner running away with the team batting title.
    —————
    I had just spent a couple of hours extolling the virtues of “His Gardness”. Somewhere, Pat M is grumbling “Freakin Gardner” and “Bo knows Diddley”.

    *He promised to share his insights on Gardner’s at bats*

  39. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    someone said it the other day gardy is turning into damon.

  40. Russell Munson June 9th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    Gardner is probably the best fourth outfielder in baseball.

  41. Bo knows June 9th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Gardner is probably the best fourth outfielder in baseball.
    ———
    You betcha!

  42. MTU June 9th, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    I’m out.

    Have a good evening.

    See you all tomorrow.

    :)

  43. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    27…

  44. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    someone has to step up and become the face of this team and gardy is doing it.

  45. joecembrale June 9th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
    someone said it the other day gardy is turning into damon.

    And thats a good thing

  46. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    joe is managing his ass off in his walk year
    if something special or close to it happens here
    he could ask for the sky
    or walk away…

  47. joecembrale June 9th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    headley is an unknown and hal and cash don’t like the unknown.
    he could be soft, hate NY, so many things…
    believe it or not they are trying to rebuild something here and are not going to rely on pie in the sky “superstars” like hamilton, how’s he doing, or pujols.

    No more players from san diego, thanks

  48. bigdan22 June 9th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Does anybody think Robertson has the best curve ball in the MLs? Just watching his 8th inning today. He struck out Bay on a hammer that was a strike. Bay swung at it like it was in the dirt. Like to get a scouting report on Robertson now. Nasty. Boy.

  49. bigdan22 June 9th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Wasn’t Winfield from San Diego?

  50. fantasygame101 June 9th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    it is better to be lucky than good. overbay against a lefty is a better bet than stewart against a righty but who can argue with results. Next time around, I would still pinch hit. Nice win.

  51. jacksquat June 9th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    No trading my Jose. Period. I don’t want to see that kind of talk here again.

  52. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    it is better to be lucky than good. overbay against a lefty is a better bet than stewart against a righty but who can argue with results. Next time around, I would still pinch hit. Nice win.
    ===============
    sometimes no move is the right move.
    they would have brought in a lefty to face overbay

  53. bigdan22 June 9th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    And Logan was hitting 97 today? Robertson hit 95. What’s going on with this game? Every team has a 3-4 guys who can throw 95 or better and the only guy who can hit is that man in Detroit.

  54. mick June 9th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    cabrera is having another bonds like year and not a word has been said.

  55. fantasygame101 June 9th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    mick.

    Just I said, you can not argue with results. But if it is up to me, I would have pinch hit. With the catchers the team has right now, I would pinch hit late in the games with runners on specially in scoring position in a close game.

  56. pat June 9th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Japanese Suitor for A-Rod Got No Response http://nyti.ms/16VDoqI

  57. blake June 9th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Great win today.

    Bret,
    It sounds like you’re gonna start one of those Wanderlust places :)

  58. blake June 9th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Gardner at .802 OPS

  59. bigdan22 June 9th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    I was actually thinking about this the other day but this is a good day to bring up. So is the Kontos for Stewart trade the best trade Cash has ever made? I’d say the Swisher deal is still probably the best but it’s not like Swisher was actually cheap in terms of salary. I think we all agree, last year Stewart was a perfectly decent backup catcher. This year, he’s playing like a perfectly decent starting catcher. All for a so-so middle reliever. Can’t believe Stewart is making all that much either salary wise. Funny how things work out.

  60. igotid88 June 9th, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    Wait until the season plays out before you start making postseason pitching rotations

  61. blake June 9th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    The Arod trade was the best trade Cashman ever made by a mile…..his new contract had nothing to do with the trade for him the first time and he got Texas to eat a bunch of money for the then best player in baseball

  62. igotid88 June 9th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    If A-Rod didn’t have the injuries these past few years would fans still be complaining?

  63. blake June 9th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    igotid88 says:
    June 9, 2013 at 11:04 pm
    If A-Rod didn’t have the injuries these past few years would fans still be complaining?

    Lot of what ifs with Alex.,…if he didnt get hurt….if he didnt take drugs….if he said the right things….who knows….trading Alfonso Soriano for him was still highway robbery especially when Texas paid part of his contract

  64. bigdan22 June 9th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    The Arod trade would have been pretty amazing if it didn’t include acquiring a player with an opt out clause that was eventually exercised and led to a contract of historically bad proportions. While it’s easy to say Cash had nothing to do with the new contract, there was really no way the Yanks were going to let Arod walk without negotiating a new and abusive extension. That’s why the opt out was in the contract to begin with. Boras is a pretty smart guy. That’s why he’s Boras.

  65. UnKnown June 9th, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Mariano Rivera will not be available on Monday.
    Rivera picked up his 23rd save Sunday and has pitched on back-to-back days, so the Yankees will look to get him some rest. David Robertson is also not expected to be available.
    Related: David Robertson
    Source: Andy McCullough on Twitter Jun 9 – 10:16 PM
    ———-

    Rotoworld fell for the funny tweet from Andy. Good times. LOL

    http://www.rotoworld.com/

  66. Rich in NJ June 10th, 2013 at 12:23 am

    The Arod trade would have been pretty amazing if it didn’t include acquiring a player with an opt out clause that was eventually exercised and led to a contract of historically bad proportions
    _

    Even if he had opted out, and the owners had listened to the GM instead of Goldman Sachs, the trade was still Cashman’s best, by far. What the owners did, is their fault alone, as it will probably be if Cano gets a ridiculous contract.

  67. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 10th, 2013 at 12:54 am

    “Trish, you are constantly mentioning fan loyalties when anyone reflects some sanity about the team’s struggles. Reread some of your posts, and shame on you for using an actor’s comment as if it were gospel!”

    1. You definitely lack common sense if you feel that the only comments that can be gospel are yours!

    2. You sound suspiciously like Prufrock.

    3. Reflecting sanity is definitely in the mind of the beholder.

    4. You don’t corner the market on truth.

    5. Preach if you must be don’t be surprised when you’re called on it, as often you are.

    6. It is amusing that anytime your perspective is questioned, somehow the questioner is always the one off base. :)

    7. You sound suspiciously like Prufrock.

    And by the way –

    trisha – true pinstriped blue June 8th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Obviously the results of last night’s are extremely disappointing. Is Bonderman capable of pitching a great game? I don’t know. Did he? I don’t know. I got in quite late and so only saw the later innings. Apparently nobody really hit off him. Was his stuff electric?

    Anyway, I’m thinking that people are people and the way everyone is going to process the season, specific games, series of games, etc. is probably going to be predictably the way they process them all the time – good, bad, or indifferent.

    There will be people who will be chirpy basically no matter what happens (well almost no matter what happens) and will know that the Yankees will come through so won’t get down when the chips are down. Then there will be people who will grumble through every loss and won’t be able to see their way clear to hope until the last out of the WS, with the Yankees winning. And then of course all degrees in between.

    Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
    Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgement Seat

    But it never hurts to try to talk it out.

    __________________________

    So much for your contention that I constantly question fan loyalties.

    :roll:

  68. jacksquat June 10th, 2013 at 1:41 am

    Funny that the one game they lost was Bonderman vs Kuroda. I thought that was the game most likely to be won heading into the series.

  69. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 7:27 am

    Good morning folks —-

    Any early risers out there??

    Kinda funny that the Yankees lose the Kuroda/Bonderman match up and win Phelps/King Felix, but that’s baseball.

    Biggest news of the day is Pineda’s 4 1/3 strong innings. If he really hit 95 MPH as Girardi said that’s even more encouraging.

  70. blake June 10th, 2013 at 7:41 am

    “Biggest news of the day is Pineda’s 4 1/3 strong innings. If he really hit 95 MPH as Girardi said that’s even more encouraging.”

    I’m trying to temper my expectations on Pineda but everything sounds very encouraging …. I wish he was a good young bat coming back based on their needs but the pitching can never be too strong and perhaps if he’s healthy then they can swap another pitcher for a bat

  71. blake June 10th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    Gardner is at 2.2 WAR on the season ….Cano at 1.6.

    WAR isn’t perfect and I think defense is weighted too much….and I don’t think Gardner is as good as Cano….but he’s a really valuable guy and he’s playing extremely well right now…..good to see him healthy and if he stays that way he should continue to be good

  72. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 7:50 am

    If Pineda can establish himself and Nova does is job the Yanks will be seven deep in starting pitching. That’s a position of strength that can be dealt from.

    If the reports on Nuno — groin strain — are accurate then he might only miss 2-3 starts.

    But jeez they need a bat or three.

  73. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    Someone yesterday mentioned he might be morphing into Johnny Damon.

    I’d be good with that as long as he doesn’t end up with Damon’s arm.

  74. blake June 10th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    But jeez they need a bat or three.”

    Or 5…..they can pitch though

  75. blake June 10th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    I kinda doubt Gardner will ever hit as much as Damon and he doesn’t have the same power…..he a different player….much better defender….I think he could have similar value to Damon when Damon was good though

  76. RadioKev June 10th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    This is a nice interview with Lance Berkman. Gives a nod to K-Long too.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....ps-legacy/

  77. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    I agree he’s not likely to have a couple of 24-HR seasons like Damon did, but I can see him as a guy with 12-15 HR and 30 + SB and that’s a nice combo.

    Meanwhile Adam Warren continues to waste away in the bullpen. Warren out, Mustelier up and DFA Mesa or Joseph. A staff this good makes carrying a 12th pitcher even more superfluous.

  78. MTU June 10th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    Good morning.

    Blake-

    All settled in the new place yet ?

    86-

    Pitching is definitely the Yankees strength right now.

    I am cautiously optimistic about Pineda.

    It’s his long term future I have the most concern about.

    Would love to see him beat the odds.

  79. RadioKev June 10th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 8:11 am
    I agree he’s not likely to have a couple of 24-HR seasons like Damon did, but I can see him as a guy with 12-15 HR and 30 + SB and that’s a nice combo.

    Meanwhile Adam Warren continues to waste away in the bullpen. Warren out, Mustelier up and DFA Mesa or Joseph. A staff this good makes carrying a 12th pitcher even more superfluous.
    ————-

    The Yankees have needed Warren to pitch multiple innings in 6 out of 11 appearances in 63 games played. I suppose some other guys in the pen can pitch multiple innings too.

    I think if you call up Musty you send down Adams.

  80. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Morning MTU —-

    I figure they’re probably going to get better and better at fixing shoulders just as they have done with elbows and knees.

    Pineda at full strength and Nova pitching well gives the Yanks ridiculous depth in starting pitching. Still, you’d only deal one of those guys for a big time bat because Kuroda, Pettitte and Hughes could all be gone by the end of the season.

  81. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    If you call up Mustelier you have to clear someone off the 40-man roster.

    Warren has pitched twice in 20 days. Total waste of a roster spot AND incredibly unfair to a young player trying to make it. That role, if you insist on having someone in it is best filled by a retread not and up-and-coming pitcher.

  82. MTU June 10th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    86-

    “I figure they’re probably going to get better and better at fixing shoulders just as they have done with elbows and knees.

    Pineda at full strength and Nova pitching well gives the Yanks ridiculous depth in starting pitching. Still, you’d only deal one of those guys for a big time bat because Kuroda, Pettitte and Hughes could all be gone by the end of the season.”

    Yes. That’s likely. The slow march of scientific progress continues. Still the odds long term are not in his favor. That is just factual. Hope he is one of the lucky ones.

    I’m w you in the sense that if they trade off some of their pitching depth it should be for a young quality bat at a position of need.

  83. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    MTU — the history of shoulder rehabs isn’t great, but it’s far from desperate.

    And that history, frankly has very little relevance in each individual case.

    I’m quite confident he will start for the Yanks at some point this season.

  84. MTU June 10th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    86-

    I am not a fan of putting SP’s into the pen.

    Phelps succeeded that way but that is more a credit to him IMO.

    I prefer the Tampa method.

    Teach the guy what he needs to be successful at the MiLB level, let him log sufficient innings, and keep him in the same role unless and until they fail at it.

    No bouncing back and forth between jobs.

  85. MTU June 10th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    86-

    I am too. Just not predicting he’ll stay healthy year and year out going forward.

    That’s a much weaker bet.

    In the best case he’s Anibal Sanchez. The avg, or worse cases are not worth discussing.

  86. MTU June 10th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    ed: year in and year out. sorry.

  87. MTU June 10th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    Time for the most important meal of the day.

    I’ll be back.

  88. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    MTU —

    That’s why I want Warren out of the pen and in the Scranton rotation.

    Plug a Bootcheck type guy in that 12th slot if you must, but the bottom line is when you have good starting pitching you don’t need seven relievers.

  89. Bo knows June 10th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    You know I had this sneaking thought that Teix had time to do an evaluation. He had three months to look where he was, going forward. Take a look at some old tape, etc. He did nothing.

    Watching him the last few games, either side, he’s torquing himself to where he’s facing the pitcher at point of impact. Yesterday – tie game, late innings, man on second, no outs, he’s wahooing out there. Totally useless at bat and he gets a pass for it. He didn’t have to go oppo, just go up the middle, nada. It’s depressing.

  90. comnsnse June 10th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Buster &MTU, those “reclusive” comments remind me of a recruitment pamphlet I saw from a militia group. Are you guys going to start with the “close order drills” or hopefully just grow some veggies and insist the local grocers stock up on the magic sardines? ;)

    Seriously guys what the planet needs is smart activists who will drop in not out!

  91. blake June 10th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    MTu
    Kinda….still a lot to do and put up. Still no TV or Internet which I actually haven’t minded all that much

  92. comnsnse June 10th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Bo, your Tex comments are accurate and one would think our esteemed batting coach and others would have imparted same to him.

    The problem as everyone knows is the old “leading the horse to water” saying.

    At some point after this year if there is no noticeable improvement they should look to buy him out. In the middle of this already weak lineup he’s an albatross.

  93. comnsnse June 10th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Blake are you living in the wilderness too?

    I’m beginning to think this is a witness protection compound for Yankee posters.

    Just remember those Sox fans might find your IP address and raid the compound! ;)

  94. Bo knows June 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    People criticize Long unfairly. He is known for simplifying mechanics, not doing some special formula. We saw what he did with Curtis, almost instant improvement. Unfortunately Curtis couldn’t maintain that simple setup.

    Teix is just swinging hard with his eyes closed, in case the ball winds up in the swing path. I repeat, it’s depressing.

  95. comnsnse June 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    MTU, shoulder surgeries are the most difficult and complex for Ortho surgeons with the least amount of return to reasonable normalcy.

    I’ve had labrum, rotator cuff and tendons of the bone operations, and no matter the rehab etc. you are never the same and deal with pain on a daily basis.

    Leading me to be occasionally a little crabby!!! :)

  96. Shame Spencer June 10th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Some random thoughts in no particular order:

    1. Gardner had an absolutely fantastic series. It’s amazing he’s constantly targeted as being a disappointment given the performance of our other OFers.

    2. Phelps continues to impress me. Besides that one game where he couldn’t get out of the first, he’s always able to battle without his best stuff.

    3. What’s Nova worth?

    4. I’m glad we’re hearing positive news on Pineda. I asked yesterday: there a chance they’ll need to make a decision on trading a starter before he gets in a big league game. Under those circumstances, do you slot him as your #5 and roll the dice?

    5. Caught Mike Mussina’s Yankeeography over the weekend. I miss Mike Mussina. Should be a HOFer.

  97. comnsnse June 10th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Bo, two points, one any criticism of Long is simply my opinion expressed here several times that coaches at the MLB level have limited success with players who have reached that level.

    The second simply confirms my first point, you can lead the horse to water but can’t make him drink!

    Jeter on the other hand ignored Long’s advice and because he is a true student of the game and accepts change went to his old coach and old mechanics with obvious success.

    Tex like Grandy have brain cramps and simply refuse to hit the ball the other way among mechanics issues.

  98. comnsnse June 10th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Shame, while your comments about Gardner’s recent surge and overall performance to date are accurate they fall into the category of “ex post facto”.

    I mean that few anywhere were suggesting he would ever be a serious offensive threat up to and including this last off season.

    If he continues his growth offensively and in particular actually learns to bunt , he will be our CF for the near term.

  99. blake June 10th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Shame,
    All good thoughts this morning . I’m not sure what Nova is worth….he’d probably be worth different things to every team depending on whether they thought they could fix his delivery or not

  100. Shame Spencer June 10th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    :arrow:

  101. 86w183 June 10th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Charlie Lau was considered a great batting coach and yet a number of his “pupils” did a lot better when they got away from him.

    I don’t think there’s anything more overrated than the impact of a batting coach at the MLB level. They will have some successes with individual players and with others the impact will be negligible or negative.

    Gardner was terrific this weekend and is having a good season. I only get on him when he gets in his funks of striking out and popping up. He has to put the ball in play for maximum effectiveness.

    I don’t think they make any pitching moves until Nova AND Pineda can string together 3-4 quality appearances. But you never know if something attractive will open up.


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