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Postgame notes: “Just not having it today is frustrating”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 12, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC Sabathia

In the end, Travis Hafner drove a ball to deep left-center field. If it had hung in the air for just a moment longer, if it had been hit just a touch harder, it might have been a two-out, game-tying home run. It was, instead, the final out of a two-run loss.

“I thought it at least had a chance to go off the wall and we were going to have a double,” Joe Girardi said. “But the heavy air can knock some balls down here. We’ve seen that before. It’s not really a home run hitter’s park, even though there were some given up tonight.”

There were some home runs given up tonight, and that opens a different subject entirely.

CC Sabathia has allowed 14 home runs this season, the most on the team — two more than Phil Hughes — and tied for the third-most in the American League. He’s never allowed more than 22 home runs in a season, and he’s only once allowed more than 20.

“I just think that he goes out and he throws strikes,” Chris Stewart said. “Sometimes if you miss with those strikes and guys are ultra-aggressive, they’re going to hit them out of the park. Normally when he’s on, his ball is moving and it’s to location, so it takes advantage of that aggressiveness. If it’s not, then he gets in trouble.”

There’s a lot about Sabathia that seems unusual this season. It started with his velocity, which is still a few notches lower than it’s been in the past. It’s easy to draw a connection between that diminished arm strength and an inability to get away with mistakes. And it’s easy to connect those mistakes to the home runs. And it’s easy to connect the home runs tot he fact that Sabathia’s had a hard time getting on a sustain roll this season, something we’ve seen him do several times since he came to the Yankees.

“It’s disappointing,” he said. “It’s definitely frustrating. After having two good ones and feeling really good, just not having it today is frustrating. … You’re always (hopeful) after a couple good starts. The last two, I was feeling pretty good. You just want to keep it rolling. I wasn’t able to do that tonight, but hopefully I can do it again in five days.”

Said Girardi: “I’m not ready to give up on him. I expect his next start to be a good one.”

Brett Gardner, Travis Hafner• Lyle Overbay on the play in right field, when the ball dropped between him and Robinson Cano: “I didn’t think I could catch it, so I figured let Robbie try. If I had it all over again, I’d make sure of where he was playing. He was playing up the middle, so I should have known he wasn’t going to have a chance to get it, so maybe I could lay out or something. But I knew I couldn’t get it, so I was hoping maybe he would have a chance.”

• After explaining one play that led to a run, Overbay brought us back to the big picture: “I think we lost the game when we couldn’t score in the first inning. That kind of set us up and gave Colon some momentum.” Bases loaded with one out in the first, Kevin Youkilis and Overbay each hit a weak fly ball to end the threat.

• Brett Gardner stayed hot with two hits and has hit safely in 16 of 18 games. His leadoff single got the offense going in the eighth, sparking four runs in the final two innings. Mark Teixeira had three RBI in those innings. Chris Stewart finished with two hits and his hitting .357 this road trip. “I expect our guys to put up good at-bats and give us an opportunity,” Girardi said. “They did it, and they did it against a bullpen that’s pretty good.”

• Robinson Cano had been brutal lately, but he took two early walks then had two late hits, including a double in the ninth.

• Hafner on his game-ending fly ball: “The ball doesn’t travel here at night. I was hoping it would at least be off the wall.”

Mark Teixeira• Sabathia’s big mistake was a first-pitch curveball that Norris hit for a three-run homer. “That was my call,” Stewart said. “That’s my fault. We threw him a lot of fastballs his first at-bat and figured he was going to try to go up there and look for the same thing. Just trying to get ahead with the curveball and he hit it out of the park.”

• Sabathia on the Norris homer: “I was going to get to (the fastball), I was just trying — the at-bat before I threw him all fastballs, so I was just trying to throw him off a little bit. He put a good swing on that one.”

• Once again, is everyone sure Sabathia’s not pitching hurt? “Yeah,” Girardi said. “He wouldn’t be going out there if he wasn’t healthy.”

• By the way, Sabathia’s left hand was fine after the comebacker.

• Athletics outfielder Yoenis Cespedes is day-to-day with a tight left hamstring. That’s why he left tonight’s game in the third inning.

• Final word goes to Sabathia, one evaluation of his night: “I just thought the stuff wasn’t as sharp, wasn’t as good tonight. They did a good job of fouling off pitches and making me throw the ball over the plate. They put some good swings on some balls. … The changeup was up and flat, the two-seamer, I was yanking it down the middle. It was just a combination of everything not being sharp.”

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36 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Just not having it today is frustrating””

  1. Niblick June 12th, 2013 at 4:51 am

    Another crappy outing from the fat man. What else is new?

  2. blake June 12th, 2013 at 6:53 am

    CC doesn’t pitch well in Oakland …..he has a career 5.02 era there for some reason.

    The reality is that when the yanks give up more than 4 runs they are gonna lose most of the time…. CC have up 6 and they lost.

  3. tomingeorgia June 12th, 2013 at 7:10 am

    Looks like I made the right decision to go to bed early.

  4. cigator June 12th, 2013 at 7:16 am

    Same old story, “I just didn’t have it today”. Fact is CC has gone from ace to an average pitcher. What’s left on his contract? Several more years of high pay for mediocre work. Funny how Yanks discard guys like Colon and he is having a great season. Yanks seem great at late inning rallys that fall short. I like these late west coast games, I can watch condensed game on and save myself the agony of 3 hours of mediocrity.

  5. Doreen June 12th, 2013 at 7:45 am

    Blake, I’m glad they didn’t get shut out, and it’s a shame Hafner hit that ball so well with nothing to show for it. But the first inning was so discouraging. They had Bartolo on the ropes, and I figured he would not have another inning like that. Oh, well.

    I knew CC has a tough time in Oakland, so…

    I do take some solace in Tex and Cano having better results last night.

  6. blake June 12th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    Yea they just aren’t gonna win many games with the offense….if the other team score 4 runs they are going to lose a lot of the time. It’s just the reality when you have a team that can’t hit. They will score enough to win if the pitching gives up 3 runs or sometimes 4…..but almost never if they give up 6.

    CC will be ok…..he never pitches well in Oakland and he was pitching better then last couple of starts before this one. That said, he’s probably done being as dominant as he used to be….he can still be very good and effective and will be most of the time but because he’s working with lesser stuff he has less margin for error and will be more prone to home runs and therefore more prone to having bad nights. It would be nice if they had an offense that could cover for him some on those nights.

  7. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 7:50 am

    The A’s can hit and pitch.

    Figured this would be a tough series.

    At least the Sux lost so we didn’t lose any more ground to them.

  8. blake June 12th, 2013 at 7:50 am

    Need Hughes to step up tonight and hold them down and give the ball to Hiro tomorrow.

  9. blake June 12th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    Yea the A’s are a good team…’s not like losing to them a couple of years ago.

  10. blake June 12th, 2013 at 7:55 am

    when was your art thing?

  11. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 7:55 am


    The big park helps a guy like Hughes.

    Hopefully Cespedes will be out. One less power bat to worry about.

  12. Doreen June 12th, 2013 at 7:55 am

    Except for Reddick, who I took for my fantasy team, and who is el stinko so far this season!! Lol

    On the bright side I took Gerrit Cole and sat him on the bench hoping he’d get called up sooner rather than later. He got me a win last night. Yay.

  13. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 7:57 am


    It’s an ongoing display for this Month.

    Friday I am doing a meet and greet.

    That’s what we were all talking about yesterday.

    If things go well I may have a 1 Man show later on.

    Thanks for asking.

  14. RadioKev June 12th, 2013 at 7:57 am

    How about that Dodgers/Diamondbacks brawl? Kennedy really pushed it there.

  15. tomingeorgia June 12th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Mr. MTU,
    Just out of curiosity, what town is your show being held? Sell those suckers!

  16. 86w183 June 12th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    The next time the Yanks head to Oakland I hope they tell CC to hold off on his public appearance(s) until AFTER he pitches.

    Dunno if it hurt, but it didn’t help.

    Looks like the only realistic hope of upgrading the offense is the returns of Granderson, Nunez and the others in one order or another.

    Nova wasn’t very good yesterday in Scranton — 5 innings, 3 ER — but to his credit he gave up the runs in the first two innings and hung three zeroes up afterward and got the win.

    Still think they might help the offense by activating Mustelier and sending down Warren who continues to waste away in the bullpen. He’s made two appearances in the last 18 games and NONE in the last nine.

  17. blake June 12th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    Hope it goes well MTU.

    Kennedy was in the wrong….should get suspended.

  18. RadioKev June 12th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    The umps shouldn’t have let it get to that point… but if you’re Greinke and the Dodgers, you can’t let the other team’s pitcher hit your star in the FACE.

  19. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    Mister Tom-

    St. George, UT.


    Thanks. I have my expectations set low.

  20. blake June 12th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    “The next time the Yanks head to Oakland I hope they tell CC to hold off on his public appearance(s) until AFTER he pitches.”

    I usually blow stuff like that off as irrelevant…..but in this case I think you have to consider that the distractions affect him. I mean it’s a huge ball park against a historically mediocre-bad offensive team and his career ERA in Oakland is over 5. He just doesn’t pitch well there……and it’s possible that all the distractions involved do factor in I guess.

  21. RadioKev June 12th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    I didn’t watch last night’s game… but I’ll take a pass on reading up on it. Sometimes you just have to let these ones fade in the rearview mirror. :)

  22. RadioKev June 12th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    I mean it’s a huge ball park against a historically mediocre-bad offensive team and his career ERA in Oakland is over 5. He just doesn’t pitch well there……and it’s possible that all the distractions involved do factor in I guess.

    I think with random end points, Oakland is actually one of the best teams in baseball this past year… Their offense is considerably better than the Yankees.

  23. Doreen June 12th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    CC did those things on an off day, though, so I don’t imagine there is any way you can tell a guy in his one time through his home town not to visit with family and friends. But, yeah, whether or not it’s coincidence, CC does not shine in Oakland.

  24. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    I’d like to see the Yankees O be able to give their Pitching more of a margin for error.

    That means more runs on the avg.

    They need to pump it up somehow.


  25. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Perhaps the Yanks can just morph into the Cardinals.


  26. 86w183 June 12th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Blake —

    Exactly. Normally it’s meaningless, but given the track record why not do something differently?

    Should baseball consider an automatic rule… hit someone in the head, you’re out ??

  27. blake June 12th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    “I think with random end points, Oakland is actually one of the best teams in baseball this past year… Their offense is considerably better than the Yankees.”

    this year….they have been bad in the past though and he’s still pitched poorly there. Again he has an ERA over 5 in that park in 14 career starts

  28. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    Got to walk the Mophead.

    I’ll be back.

  29. blake June 12th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    “Should baseball consider an automatic rule… hit someone in the head, you’re out ??”

    slippery slope….most of the time it would be an ok rule….you hit somebody in the head then you’re ejected and you try to determine intent and whether a suspension is warranted afterwards.

    However….consider it’s game 162 and the Yankees and Red Sox are tied for first place. It’s the 2nd inning and Kuroda lets a curveball slip and hits Pedrioa in the helmet……should he be tossed?

  30. austinmac June 12th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    CC at 90-91 is simply not the pitcher he used to be. Who would be?

    I went to sleep after the 6th. Too bad I missed our offensive outbreak.

    It is quite clear Ichiro is not a regular. Actually, that has been clear for two years. I can’t believe they gave him a two year contract costing them $6-7M next year when they have no money and so many holes upcoming.

  31. 86w183 June 12th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Blake —-

    Good example of why a hard and fast rule might not work.

    Better that umpires are encouraged to react more strongly to guys getting beaned with fastballs. Hell, even if its intentional you ought not be out there with that serious lack of control.

    Austinmac —

    Agree completely on Ichiro. Deal never made a bit of sense to me, especially in the context of the question to get payroll down. Hopefully Seattle will want him back for a farewell tour.

  32. blake June 12th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    “I can’t believe they gave him a two year contract costing them $6-7M next year when they have no money and so many holes upcoming.”

    I think he’ll retire after this year……unless he really turns it around he’s gonna be a bench guy by the end of the season and I can’t see him sticking around to sit the bench.

  33. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    if kennedy is with the Yankees, he would not even try to hit a batter. With other team, he tried to injured players.

  34. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    blake – That might be some wishful thinking.. Ichiro should be a bench guy but he and Wells are sort of competing to see who can perform more poorly at this point. Ichi is still the better option there. Unless they plan on bringing in two new (productive) OFers next year, I don’t see him hanging it up.

  35. longtimefan June 12th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    CC is what it is, a great pitcher in decline, super nice guy, heart of a lion but diminishing skills, another peril of the long term contracts the yankess seem to love to dole out, Arod, Tex… another mistake waiting to happen is Cano, 5 years not bad, any longer asking for problems.
    Ichiro’s deal had more to do with marketing revenue than baseball achievements, welcome to the new yankess.

  36. LathamJoe June 12th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    CC: Another Cashman Casualty! Ridiculous long term contracts never work for the most part. Cashman is one of the most overrated GMs in today’s Game! Anyone who has made the number of mistakes he has would have been fired years ago.
    As much as I dislike the Red Sox, their organization is to be envied – solid team, strong MilB system, sensible approach to minimizing long term contracts. The combination of the apathetic Steinbrothers and the aimless leadership of Cashman has hurt this once proud Organization. Don’t be fooled by the 2nd place standing, this Yankee team is second rate – 11th in BA, 12th in OBP, 10th in OPS, Runs scored, & Slg Pct. Thankfully the pitching has been decent, but how for how long given the ages and obsolesence of their key pitchers? Still rooting, still hoping for a Yankee resurgence….

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