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Video: First-rounder Aaron Judge takes BP with Yankees

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With their second pick in last week’s amateur draft, the Yankees took a massive outfielder named Aaron Judge. Yesterday, the Yankees got to see him first hand when Judge joined the team for batting practice in Oakland.

“He can hit some homers,” Joe Girardi said. “The ball really jumps off his bat. I think he’s going to hit again in BP as well. Strong kid. He can hit line drives out of the ballpark. You think that they’re good line drives in the gap, and they just keep going. He was pretty impressive today.”

Judge is from a small town about an hour outside of Oakland, and he said it’s all but certain that he’ll sign and sign quickly.

“Yeah, real confident,” he said. “… Looking forward to starting my career.”

The video above is Judge taking batting practice, and the audio is Judge speaking to reporters in the Yankees clubhouse. He tells a pretty cool story about Robinson Cano calling to tell him congratulations on being drafted.

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134 Responses to “Video: First-rounder Aaron Judge takes BP with Yankees”

  1. blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    I really hope this kid makes it just to see what Sterling does with his name.

  2. blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    I really think DO and company did a good job in the first round of the draft…..they might all bust and become nothing but they got good value and I think they’ll be able to sign them all. The two college guys should sign for around slot so hopefully that’ll allow them to pay Clarkin what it’ll take to sign him.

    They needed to do well with those 3 picks and I think they made good ones…..now it’s wait and see.

  3. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Repost:

    Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    blake – That might be some wishful thinking.. Ichiro should be a bench guy but he and Wells are sort of competing to see who can perform more poorly at this point. Ichi is still the better option there. Unless they plan on bringing in two new (productive) OFers next year, I don’t see him hanging it up.

    Agree about the picks though.. I was pretty happy with the guys they took.

  4. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    draft picks with upside are just that without proper personnel guiding them. Unless they do something in that department, those kids must be able to rely on themselves to go far. We have speedster who can not bunt regularly or strikeout a ton. We have power bat who can not make contact.

  5. PacoDooley June 12th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Hopefully someone can work on his stance and get him to start his hands in a better batting position – less moving parts would help I think.

    Also nice to hear these stories where guys contribute to the team by recruiting and welcoming the newly drafted players or IFAs etc.

  6. 86w183 June 12th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    I was very happy with the top ten rounds of the draft overall, but especially the first three guys they chose.

    Can’t remember the last time the Yanks had a young OF prospect with this kind of size and upside…. Jay Buhner?

    I’d put him in RF in Tampa the day he signs. As I’ve written many times, top college players do not belong in Low-A ball.

  7. Tackelberry June 12th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Just curious. How many posts were there last night crying over Gerrit Cole?

  8. Tackelberry June 12th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Judge;s stance reminds me alot of Juan Gonzalez

  9. blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    “Just curious. How many posts were there last night crying over Gerrit Cole?”

    at least one (mine)

  10. blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Peter Gammons ?@pgammo 33s
    Nothing against Lebeon, but Danny Green outscoring him 56-50 through 3 games is a great story

    Tarheel fans are familiar with Danny raining 3′s. If the Heat lose this series then I don’t want to hear Lebron and Jordan ever in the same sentence again unless it’s Lebron isn’t as good and Jordan.

  11. mick June 12th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Let’s hope Judge brings Justice. (or something resembling him)

  12. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Sterling’s call for Judge is obvious.

    “Here come Da Judge.”

    :)

  13. tomingeorgia June 12th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    blake,
    Anybody notable from the UNC college world series get drafted?

  14. blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    just watching the video…..kinda long swing but man the guy is huge. They could probably shorten him up a little and reduce some movement but he’s probably always gonna have somewhat long and powerful swing. That’s ok if he develops good pitch recognition and plate discipline. My guess is that will be what makes or breaks him…..if he can develop a good approach and take his walks and mash mistakes and become good at recognizing pitches he can hit then he could become a masher.

  15. JCPD June 12th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    MTU, just sent you the link again…… Elizabeth is doing better, we couldn’t fly because of the blood clot in her leg, so getting to Seattle to visit her son and daughter in law and looking for a house will have to wait a bit.

  16. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    JCPD-

    Thanks.

    Hope she continues to improve.

  17. blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    “Anybody notable from the UNC college world series get drafted?”

    Moran their 3B was the 6th overall pick I think…. Kent Emmanuel (their #1 starter) was taken in the 3rd round. Some other players taken later. Overall 8 current players and committed players were taken from UNC.

  18. 86w183 June 12th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Green and Neal were ridiculous last night. two more nights like that and LeBron can focus on taking his dancing talents out to the clubs on South Beach.

    Can’t whine about Cole. He and his father made it clear they weren’t signing. The family is reasonably wealthy and could afford that stance. Still the Yanks wasted their # 1 pick on him.

  19. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    blake June 12th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Peter Gammons ?@pgammo 33s
    Nothing against Lebeon, but Danny Green outscoring him 56-50 through 3 games is a great story

    Tarheel fans are familiar with Danny raining 3?s. If the Heat lose this series then I don’t want to hear Lebron and Jordan ever in the same sentence again unless it’s Lebron isn’t as good and Jordan.

    ————————–

    :lol:

  20. MTU June 12th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    86-

    That’s not the way I remember it w Cole.

    He was a Boras client. And even Boras was surprised when they pulled a switcheroo and Cole’s Father decided his son would go to college.

    Definitely think there was some deception involved there.

    Boras should have done a better job of vetting his client though.

  21. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    cole may become a hall of famer one day, but could have he done it through the Yankees minor league coaches? so many great potential pitchers have came and go.

  22. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Lol, I think Calcaterra may be implying MLB tampered with balls.

    Which, really, is just a fun sentence to type.

    @craigcalcaterra

    Think it’s hilarious when people think big offense in the 1990s-2000s was 100% a function of PEDs. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......e-offense/

  23. NYYROC June 12th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    THe NYY haven’t developed their own #1 since Guidry (Andy’s always been really good but he’s never been the ace of the staff). They almost had another one in Righetti, but he threw a no-hitter and then someone in their infinite wisdom decided that he would make a good closer (sound familiar Hughes, Joba). This organization has never had a clue on developing pitching. Hopefully Patterson can change that.

  24. NYYROC June 12th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Side note: Sparky Lyle taught Guidry the slider which made his career. Guidry then taught Righetti.

  25. Hassey June 12th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    and yeah behold, Righetti begat Vogelsong

  26. blake June 12th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    “Think it’s hilarious when people think big offense in the 1990s-2000s was 100% a function of PEDs. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports……e-offense/ …”

    I think it was also a function of better players.

  27. bigdan22 June 12th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Last night once again showed us a couple things we already knew. First of all, CC is no longer the ace he once was. That’s been pretty obvious all season. With his current stuff, he is still a very good pitcher. A legit number two who will carry the team on far more nights than starts like last night. After all, he’s not Phil Hughes. I’m just a bit concerned, as I indicated last month, how long he’ll keep the stuff he now has.

    The real problem of course is the offense as we all know. I continue to believe if the Yanks continue their current course they will be 10 games out by the trade deadline. Yesterday I introduced the 3 point plan, that must be implemented immediately, to prevent the downward spiral. I’ll change the plan slightly and add a fourth point which includes a suggestion I’ve been advocating for a month now.

    Step one, platoon Wells. That was done last night but he shouldn’t be platooned with Overbay. Get Overbay out of the outfield. Promote Almonte and use him in the platoon. He’s always hit lefties. Lets see how he hits in majors and where his future his. Demote Adams who has no real role anyway. He’ll be back when Youk goes back on DL. Step Two, platoon Tex. What really needs to be done is to rotate Tex, Haffner and Overbay through DH and first base against righties. Play the matchups and hot hand. Girardi is good at that. Tex will need to earn his left-handed at bats. If he proves solid you can cut Overbay. Step 3. Cut Ichiro and replace with Neal. This absolutely must be done. Ichiro is done. Plain and simple. The contract was a bad idea from the beginning. Neal has earned a shot in the big leagues. Grandy should be back in about a month anyway. Step 4. Trade Phelps as part of a package for a long term solution either at 3b, ss or corner outfield. I’ve been advocating this for about a month. My earlier posts lay out the reasons there.

    Without these moves this season will turn ugly real soon. It should have already by now.

  28. Rich in NJ June 12th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Popovich shows how important coaching is in the NBA. His adjustments were great, something the current Knicks coach couldn’t make in the playoffs either with the Knicks or when he was in Atlanta.

  29. bigdan22 June 12th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Sorry I meant Almonte has always hit righties, not lefties. But it is nice he’s a switch-hitter.

  30. NYYROC June 12th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    A year from now CC will wish he were Phil Hughes.

  31. blake June 12th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    “Step one, platoon Wells.”

    they are probably going to more from now on….not a lot of options.

    “Step Two, platoon Tex. ”

    sounds great in theory but they aren’t going to do this….they just aren’t.

    “Step 3. Cut Ichiro and replace with Neal.”

    probably would help but they aren’t going to do this either….

    “Step 4. Trade Phelps as part of a package for a long term solution either at 3b, ss or corner outfield. ”

    again….sounds great in theory but 1) you don’t know if you can get that….you’re unlikely to get a good long term position player for Phelps 2) they can’t afford to trade pitching right now as it’s their strength….if Pineda comes back healthy then maybe.

  32. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    I really believe a new hitting coach will work wonder for this team. This team is pull happy bec. that is what long knows how to teach. Tex was disaster when he tried not to pull bec. nobody can give him useful input. Luckily cano has his father to go to and jeter went back to his old coach to get him going again. Lou piniela would be a great hitting coach.

  33. blake June 12th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    “I really believe a new hitting coach will work wonder for this team. This team is pull happy bec. that is what long knows how to teach. ”

    I believe better hitters would work wonders for this team.

  34. pat June 12th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    “I think it was also a function of better players.”

    and medical advances of the non-steroidal kind like improved orthopedic procedures.

  35. blake June 12th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    the run boom of the 90s and 2000s was caused by a lot of things IMO……PEDs, expansion….new and smaller parks……and one that nobody talks about is that there was just a wave of really good players then. I honestly think maybe that was the biggest factor…..

  36. bigdan22 June 12th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Blake I actually agree with your comments to my Steps 2 and 3 which is why I wrote that long post about Casey Stengel yesterday regarding the value of brains and intestinal fortitude. My thinking is if Casey could show that resolve 60 years ago, rightly taking on the greatest Yankee icon of all time in the interest of winning, is it too much to ask the current leadership to take on a Tex or Ichiro who aren’t cut from near the same cloth as Joe D?

    Step 4 obviously depends on the quality of the add-ins to the package (always trade your No 1 prospect) and the return available. Beyond that it’s just straight risk-return analysis.

  37. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    I really believe a new hitting coach will work wonder for this team. This team is pull happy bec. that is what long knows how to teach. Tex was disaster when he tried not to pull bec. nobody can give him useful input. Luckily cano has his father to go to and jeter went back to his old coach to get him going again. Lou piniela would be a great hitting coach.

    ___________

    YES please.

  38. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    other teams with less talent are doing better. this team even with injuries should not be near the bottom in offensive category. Hitting to the opposite field and at the same time able to pull are approach related. Tony gwynn demonstrated that on MLB network.

  39. BD (Boston Dave) June 12th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    “THe NYY haven’t developed their own #1 since Guidry (Andy’s always been really good but he’s never been the ace of the staff). ”

    —–

    Sheer rubbish. You can say what you want about Banuelos, Betances, etc.. but saying Andy isn’t evidence of the Yanks developing a #1 is embarrassing. The guy is a borderline Hall of Freakin Famer. Stop thinking of a #1 as a guy who throws high 90s. This whole “he’s an ace and he isn’t” is crap. Andy has been BETTER than most of these so called #1s, who will never sniff the HOF, over his career.

  40. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    I can’t speak to the talent pool.. but you’d think post expansion it would be thinner.

    I’m with blake, I think hitting coaches are a little overrated tbh. Sort of like pitching coaches. It isn’t that I don’t think they can help players make adjustments, but that’s basically their only function and that function is depended on both the physical tools and general ability of the player. Our guys are not high average guys. They didn’t bring in anyone with the ability to be better than the guys they were replacing. They didn’t even bring in replacement level guys in most (if not all) cases.

    I don’t check in enough, admittedly, but Neal, Almonte and Musty were all doing fairly well offensively recently. Bring someone in. Wells and Ichiro really shouldn’t ever be in the same lineup. Overbay doesn’t give you corner OF production either.

  41. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    other teams with less talent are doing better. this team even with injuries should not be near the bottom in offensive category. Hitting to the opposite field and at the same time able to pull are approach related. Tony gwynn demonstrated that on MLB network.

    _________

    I agree. If getting new players is always the solution what’s the point in hiring a coach in the first place? I don’t think you can put this 100% on the players. The organization’s philosophy and approach to hitting is flawed. Kevin Long is just the endpoint and figurehead of that flawed system. As long as Long has a job, the organization will refuse to change the approach to hitting. They can’t change their philosophy midstream because they will lose credibility.

    Kevin Long is their guy because he is doing EXACTLY what they want him to do.

  42. blake June 12th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    “other teams with less talent are doing better. ”

    who? This offense is as bad on paper as it is on the field.

  43. bigdan22 June 12th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Something might be in the works with Neal, Almonte and Musty. I noticed a few days ago the batting order for Scranton changed and these three guys are batting 1, 2 and 3. It’s almost as if someone said give these three the most at bats like it’s a simulated game or something. Hopefully changes are coming. Neal is only hitting about .340 now.

  44. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Bret – It’s kind of a top down thing though.. they loaded up on one type of player, so what do can your hitting coach really do about that? D

    o you sincerely believe if you brought in another hitting coach with these players they’d be able to garner better results?

  45. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    blake,

    you loss me there.

  46. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    The statements are just confusing me because you’re saying it’s an organizational philosophy and Long is the end point but he is somehow the only person facilitating this approach. Firing him and hiring someone else to carry out the organizations philosophy leaves you in essentially the same position.

  47. NYYROC June 12th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    BD, If you want to think of Andy as an ace go ahead. I think he’s always been really good. So that means the NYY have developed 1 in the past 35 years. Not much of a track record, which is the point I was making.

  48. blake June 12th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    there aren’t other teams with less talent doing better….the Yankees are in the race and Lyle Overbay, a geriatric Ichiro, Jason Nix, Chris Stewart, a broken Kevin Youkilis, a geriatric Vernon Wells, a returning from injury and aging Mark Teixera are in their lineup.

    It’s a minor miracle they are where they are in the standings.

  49. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    The Giants are really the perfect trade partner for us…. figure out what Hughes+ can get you.

  50. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    As of this am numerous First and second round draftees had signed with their clubs.

    The Yankees had not signed any, which leads my skeptical mind to this question.

    This Organization has a history of not coming to agreements quickly after the drafts.

    Is it probable that even these kids are advised to string out negotiations and try to force the org. to pay over slot monies because as witness the FA deals the org. has handed out, it does work?

  51. G. Love June 12th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Guys, you all know Gerit Cole, if he signed with the Yankees, would be in our bullpen with one pitch talking about starting again someday while Cashman pooh-poohed it to the press.

  52. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    It’s a minor miracle they are where they are in the standings.

    ——————

    They’re averaging 3.3 runs per game in June and are still 6-4. It’s really a testament to the pitching. I just worry that pitching such high stress innings will catch up to our starters.

  53. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    for one, the orioles are doing better with pearce, mcclouth, Dickerson. Davis was a bust until he gets to the orioles. Pearce and Dickerson could not stick with the Yankees no less.

  54. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    What about Hughes and Grandy for Pence…?? Then fight like hell to retain him?

  55. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Re: trades. Hughes or any pitching should only be traded from a position of strength. Meaning consistent performances for the next month.

    CC has another poor outing is 6-5 with an era over 4 Kuroda and Pettitte will retire and everyone else is still in the “let’s see” category.

    Now unless they are willing to pull the plug on this season which surely they will not do until next month, no miracle trade will likely occur where the Yankees fleece another team fo that can’t miss position prospect.

    And if anything happens to actually keep this pasted together rag tag bunch in the playoff hunt they would probably have to gut the farm system to do it.

    I am resigned to what imo is the lost season and conclude they should be wise sellers at the deadline, possibly moving a Kuroda or excess RH relievers.

    To be buyers entails too much risk and they have too many holes to fill, so for a change they and the fans need to look long term.

  56. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    The O’s have a pretty solid offense…. they’re not doing more with less. They’re doing more with more.

  57. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    “for one, the orioles are doing better with pearce, mcclouth, Dickerson. Davis was a bust until he gets to the orioles. Pearce and Dickerson could not stick with the Yankees no less.”

    the Orioles lineup is a lot better than the Yankees…..Dickerson is better than Ichiro and they have MVP candidate Chris Davis….Adam Jones…..Stud Manny Machado…..Markakis……Wieters…..it’s a lot better. The Yankees pitching is better which is why they have roughly the same record right now.

  58. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “What about Hughes and Grandy for Pence…?? Then fight like hell to retain him?”

    I don’t think the Giants would trade one of their best hitters for Hughes…..they want pitching but they don’t need it that bad.

  59. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Shame, to clarify, I’m not saying firing Long would solve the problems or change the system. I’m saying that as long as he is the hitting coach, that means the intention is to carry out the flawed philosophy. It’s just a slap in the face and a reminder that they refuse to reverse course. They have been on the same course for a decade now. Whenever they pat this guy on the back it means they’re congratulating themselves for this mess they created.

    George would have fired him, top down thing be damned. Long would have been the fall guy, fairly or unfairly but that would have been George’s way of saying FIX THIS THING

  60. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “What about Hughes and Grandy for Pence…?? Then fight like hell to retain him?”

    I don’t think the Giants would trade one of their best hitters for Hughes…..they want pitching but they don’t need it that bad.

    ___________

    It’s not just for Hughes.

  61. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    orioles has markakis, weiters, jones and machado. the rest can be had by any team when they were acquired. The orioles coaching staff must be given credit for davis, mcclouth and hardy. Actually even jones was not that good when he went to the orioles.

  62. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Look at what the Cardinals are doing with Holliday and Beltran. Those players are more support stars not superstars like Pujols. The rest are minor league fodder. They have their catcher hitting .350.

  63. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    blake,

    the orioles lineup is better than the Yankees or they are outperforming the Yankees? do you think davis will be like this if he is with the Yankees? Dickerson is outperforming ichiro, is he better talent wise? I can go to jones too bec. he was not that good when he was with the mariners. Buck and his coaches should be given credit to the likes of jones, davis, hardy, mcclouth and Dickerson.

  64. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    When is the last season a Yankee hitter had a season, when after completion you could look at his body of work and say he outperformed?

    Think about that for a second.

  65. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Jesus bustero,

    easily Jeter last yr.

  66. CountryClub June 12th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Jim Callis ?@jimcallisBA 7m #Yankees, 1st-rder Eric Jagielo agree to $1,839,400. Notre Dame 3B, big lefthanded power, made strides w/bat & defense this spring

  67. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    George would have offed Long, fairly or unfairly and that would have forced Cashman and the front office to do the hard human resources legwork necessary to identify, recruit, hire and appoint the right coaches and instructors and scouts. This is a systemic problem and as long as we see Kevin Long with a job it proves they have no intention to change the context in which he operates. He is doing EXACTLY what they want him to do. The hitters are completely lost and have been for 10 years.

  68. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Fantasy,

    Jeter yes but we both know he abandoned Long to get back his swing.

  69. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Amazing how some of my commentary “chickens” are coming home to roost based on many of these posts.

    The overall incompetence of the minor league system and drafts headed up by the Tampa “cabal” , Mark Newman and Damon Oppenheimer, with the lack of real oversight by Cashman who has now been the overseer since after the 05 season.

    The mistake of over rating what any coach in this case Long is able to do with players at the MLB level.

    The next “chicken” to return has to be with respect to the Yankee economic situation.

    They simply can not afford in the broadest sense of the word to allow this organization to be less than competitive every year without diminishing the value of the brand and it’s assets.

    They will have to “break” the cap vow to do so, and have a much better admin group in place who are superior to those currently making decisions.

    Otherwise sell the damn team to News Corp!

  70. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    “the orioles lineup is better than the Yankees or they are outperforming the Yankees? ”

    better…..the Yankees might have 2 position players that could start for the Orioles right now…3 at most.

  71. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Take a step out of the hyperbolic chamber please.

  72. Shame Spencer June 12th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    blake – That’s why I’d include Grandy who would give them some pop in the OF to replace him. They already have a few other really good offensive players and they may very well lose Pence as an FA anyway. Hughes + Grandy + another prospect (depending on who it is) might be a bit much for a rental in Pence but he’d be such a boost from where we’re at.

    Bret – Understood. I do agree George would have fired him by now. But I also think George would have brought in some better offensive players. I get what you’re saying though.. Long is basically indicative of an overall organizational offensive philosophy that …kinda blows.

  73. bruceb June 12th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    It’s a minor miracle they are where they are in the standings.

    Indeed it is. Watching the first inning last night tells you all you need to know about this team. Would Colon have got through that inning unscathed against Yankee lineups of the past few years? Not a chance. Bases loaded. One out. Colon can’t find the strike zone. Youkilis and Overbay had him a get out of jail free card. Two pitchers later, we’re behind and it feels as though the game is over.

    Watching the Sox vs. Rays and Angels vs. Orioles this week, I actually think finishing third in the AL East this year would be an achievement for us the way the lineup is currently constituted. All three of those teams have so much more firepower than us.

  74. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    “Buck and his coaches should be given credit to the likes of jones, davis, hardy, mcclouth and Dickerson.”

    so should Girardi and Co for actually having a better record than the Orioles with the corpses of Hafner, Overbay, Ichiro, Wells, and Youkilis in the every day lineup.

  75. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Fantasy, nonsense on the Jones opinion, he was a highly rated player and just a kid when the O’s stole him in the Bedard deal.

    AS for Davis he was also a steal in a lopsided trade, and the rest of the players you noted are comparable to the bottom six on a hockey team.

    Net, net, credit a good GM who has the organization now to make good judgments, nothing mysterious about that.

    Except we haven’t done it!

  76. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    I don’t know if Grandy and Hughes for Pence makes the team better…..I’d say that’s a net loss

  77. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Cano, Gardner, and Tex might could start for the Orioles…..that’s about it. Everyone else in the Yankees current lineup would either be on the bench or released if they played for Baltimore.

  78. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    that’s pretty much slot money Jagielo…..I expect Judge to sign for close to the same which should leave plenty of money to lure Clarkin unless he just totally doesn’t want to sign…..and if that were the case I don’t think they would have drafted him.

  79. comet June 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Blake why would Tex start for anyone but the Yankees hitting the way he is?

  80. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Buster, when you post a line like the “hyperbaric chamber” it would be a common courtesy to say which line.

    No sardines for lunch! ;)

  81. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Yes Shame. In a nutshell, Long’s enduring employment represents a stubbornness on the part of the front office and a laziness that to me is infuriating. I feel like somewhere around when Zimmer left we lost all the good baseball people and those folks were networked with some bright baseball minds and the computer algorithm crowd kind of took over. Cashman rode that wave and he continues to act like he’s tubular while his surf board is beached.

  82. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:47 am

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  84. G. Love June 12th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    I think Buck’s a great manager and I think he’s hit on something in Baltimore with a lot of guys who were cast offs from other orgs. The difference between our cast offs and Baltimore’s are they are mostly younger guys like Davis, Dickerson, McLouth (to an extent) vs. older guys we try to catch lightning in a bottle with. I’m sure if the got Brignac, he’d be hitting .300 for them too.

    They also got a taste of the playoffs last year and short of Ibanez putting on the Superman cape would’ve won the division and that 1st round series.

    That said, I don’t think they’re a more talented team and a lot of their guys are hitting above their levels while most of our guys are hitting far below their levels.

    But I do think that Kevin Long isn’t helping here anymore. Watching hitter after hitter decline into one dimensional pull hitters once they’re hear for a bit is just sad to watch. Someone is preaching this in the locker room and it can’t be Girardi.

    I wish changing the hitting coach would fix everything, but I don’t think it will. There’s a lot of stubborn ego’s in our lineup who are already making huge money who won’t listen to Pinella, Boggs or Babe Ruth if they walked in as the new pitching coach.

    The problem, to me, is the players and we’re not changing them anytime soon. We’re stuck with this group this season and have to make do I imagine.

    You just hope Robbie comes around, Gardner takes that next step and the role players keep finding ways to help us win in between the games where the one dimensional HR hitters hit their HR’s.

    But I’d be lying to you if I didn’t want to see them DL Youk, bring up Musty and see what that bat could do here for a stretch.

    I’m even intrigued by Neal in AAA despite his lack of power.

    Other teams, like the Orioles for instance, give those guys their shots. Even the Red Sox did that. Nava was not really on the map for them in the pre-season in the kind of role he’s been filling.

    If this offense keeps trickling like this, the GM has to use what’s in the org to try to change it up and get some hits/runs. The days of leaving guys in AAA who had good numbers because they didn’t want to ruffle huge salaried guys feathers have to end.

    They’re in a battle for the division/post season and leaving weapons in Scranton that might get you there is just stubborn and uninspiring.

    You have to at least try.

  85. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Buster, when Zim lost that “bout” with Pedro I knew it was only a matter of time before they dumped him for his embarrassing effort! ;)

  86. Doreen June 12th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    blake -

    If Jeter, ARod and Granderson were there, they WOULD be bench players.

  87. G. Love June 12th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    I meant hitting coach above. Too many type-o’s. I feel shame.

  88. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    “Blake why would Tex start for anyone but the Yankees hitting the way he is?”

    eh I think he could either play 1B or DH for Baltimore.

  89. austinmac June 12th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    This Yankee team has a better record than one could expect considering the roster. I am afraid I agree with Dan it cannot be sustained. They are averageing less than 3.5 runs per game for the last month, I believe. Think about that. How can a team win regularly with that offense over the long haul?

    Davidoff wrote a story this morning that he does not expect any major TD move. I agree. They haven’t done one in years and they won’t now. They need to bring up Neal and either Mustelier or Almonte. How long do we watch Ichiro and his abysmal OPS? How much longer do we watch Wells and his .150 average over the last month?

    These aren’t just slumps. Ichiro, Wells, Hafner and Youkilis are performing about what one could have expected. It is who they are now. Time waits for no man.

  90. austinmac June 12th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    This Yankee team has a better record than one could expect considering the roster. I am afraid I agree with Dan it cannot be sustained. They are averageing less than 3.5 runs per game for the last month, I believe. Think about that. How can a team win regularly with that offense over the long haul?

    Davidoff wrote a story this morning that he does not expect any major TD move. I agree. They haven’t done one in years and they won’t now. They need to bring up Neal and either Mustelier or Almonte. How long do we watch Ichiro and his abysmal OPS? How much longer do we watch Wells and his .150 average over the last month?

    These aren’t just slumps. Ichiro, Wells, Hafner and Youkilis are performing about what one could have expected. It is who they are now. Time waits for no man.

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  92. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    “If Jeter, ARod and Granderson were there, they WOULD be bench players.”

    right…but we’re talking about this current team that the Yankees are playing with. My comments were with regards to another comment saying that other teams are winning with less talent which I don’t think is the case.

  93. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Blake,

    You only give credit to the GM for jones, davis, etc? As much as I do not like cashman, he can only do so much with player’s acquisition. Cashman other fault would be to find coaches who can actually make a player better than he is coming to the organization and that is from top to bottom.

  94. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    “The difference between our cast offs and Baltimore’s are they are mostly younger guys like Davis, Dickerson, McLouth (to an extent) vs. older guys we try to catch lightning in a bottle with. ”

    this…..the Orioles got some underperforming young guys with talent and got them to perform…..Davis was a good prospect at one time….so was Jones. That’s a lot different than trying to squeeze performance out of old dudes that just can’t do it anymore. The Yanks got maybe all that was left out of some of these guys and that saved their season most likely.

  95. blake June 12th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    “You only give credit to the GM for jones, davis, etc? As much as I do not like cashman, he can only do so much with player’s acquisition. Cashman other fault would be to find coaches who can actually make a player better than he is coming to the organization and that is from top to bottom.”

    Baltimore should be given credit….never said otherwise….I just said they had better and younger players than the Yankees do right now. I’d like to see Buck and company get something out of Ichiro at this point……I’m not sure there is anything left to tap in to.

  96. G. Love June 12th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    blake,

    I think Buck has a way of inspiring those once highly touted young-ish guys who flamed out in an org before getting to him.

    I’d love to know what he does and get Girardi to do it. Girardi’s very supportive, but he’s almost like a wet nurse to these guys it seems. I think Buck has a more masculine Gene Hackman in Hoosiers way of getting to these guys.

  97. Warning Track Power June 12th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    So what did everybody think about the Dodgers/AZ brawl last night?
    I think it was disgusting. Mattingly said it best: If you don’t know how to throw inside, then you can’t throw inside”.
    The pitch IPK threw to Greinke was out of line. I hope he gets suspended for 30 games. The ball was thrown at the head.
    A pitcher should know to throw the ball at the legs or at the ribs. Nothing above the shoulder.

  98. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    G.Love, Granderson is he same hitter with the same style he had in Detroit.

    A .240-50 avg. with power, his Hr. totals have been greater here because of the stadium and the attendant wind tunnel.

    A I poster previously Duquette got very lucky with Davis but it does happen sometimes and I’m sure no one could have forecast his current production.

    Dickerson had been around the maypole with several orgs. and found wanting, Mc Louth the same and become a platoon player.

    And while I’m no defender of Cashman sometimes you are better off being lucky than smart.

    As for Buck he of the perpetual constipated look, he did not fare especially well in any of his previous assignments so let’s save the kudos until he does. Your only able to be a control guy for a limited period and generally with younger players for so long, until you wear out your welcome.

  99. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    G. Love your post was still splendid.

    Again I wonder, can anyone name a single hitter of recent whose performance at the end of the season could be judged to be a season where he outperformed? And I’m not talking about a career .277 hitter like Ibanez hitting .240. I think you’d have to go pretty far back. The organization’s approach to offense is outdated. It’s easy to breed guess hitters and sluggers when you have Arod in his prime.

  100. austinmac June 12th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Should I repeat that again for emphasis? Sorry about that.

  101. fantasygame101 June 12th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    blake,

    everybody knows ichiro signing is for marketing in japan. But still, he would be hitting more in SF if he had gone there bec. his approach would be different.

  102. G. Love June 12th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    comsense,

    Agree with you to an extent, but a lot of us watching Dickerson last year felt like he was putting it together and needed a shot to be at least the LH part of a platoon.

    He’s athletic, has some pop and I’m not surprised he helps them in a specific role.

    And I feel differently about Buck. Buck did a fantastic job here before he left. I don’t know if he could’ve won like Torre did, but Buck was behind the wheel when a lot of our core came up and our team finally started being the Yankees again. I think he’s a very good manager and if the owner doesn’t need their manager to be a sweet guy/best friend, he might’ve stayed on and won in many of the spots he left.

  103. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 12th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    The Yanks were about 2 inches away from tying the game. I’m wondering if the Ys tied and then won if there would be as much hue and cry about the offense. Maybe there would. But then would the issue have been that they should have scored it in the first and not the 9th? Is there a rule book as to when your runs should come in order to be considered legitimate?

    I’m just throwing this out there.

    As an aside, in addition to the A’s being 5th in offense and 5th in ERA in the AL (at least that’s what they were at the beginning of last night’s game; don’t know whether last night’s game moved them in any direction) Colon sports a 3.14 ERA and is on Tony Bosch’s list of 20. So I don’t know how much you should take out of the fact that Colon held them down. I’ve seen Yankee pitchers Houdini out of an inning. Nothing says other pitchers can’t do it.

    Just sayin’

    Would it be nice to see offensive outbursts at the beginning of games? Sure it would.

  104. blake June 12th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    G. Love,
    Buck is good with young players….he just is. Girardi has his good qualities too though and has done a great job IMO at keeping this team in contention with this bunch they have.

  105. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    G.Love why wasn’t Buck’s “inspiring” message successful with the other teams who hired him and then fired him?

    Managing like other endeavors is always part ability and part luck or timing.

    In Baltimore he has been the beneficiary of a great trade, Jones a good trade or FA signing in Hardy, several superior drafts in Markakis , Machado and Wieters and a few very lucky moves like Gonzales and of course Davis.

    Success is a team effort and it sure helps to have a big budget in sports.

  106. Jesus Bustero June 12th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    I’ll never understand the lack of appreciation for Buck Showalter. Not only was he an encyclopedia of baseball information in interviews on WPIX channel 20 but look at the merry-go-round of clown managers he followed – Dallas Green, Stump Merrill, Bucky Dent…

    Must be Lou Pinella fans…

    Look what Buck did in AZ, then TX and now Baltimore.

    The guy is legit and he knows how to fill an organization with bright baseball minds.

  107. JobaTipsHisCap June 12th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    IPK is awesome.
    no Yankee pitchers would do that, this is just weak.

  108. Warning Track Power June 12th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue June 12th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    The Yanks were about 2 inches away from tying the game. I’m wondering if the Ys tied and then won if there would be as much hue and cry about the offense. Maybe there would. But then would the issue have been that they should have scored it in the first and not the 9th? Is there a rule book as to when your runs should come in order to be considered legitimate?

    I’m just throwing this out there.

    As an aside, in addition to the A’s being 5th in offense and 5th in ERA in the AL (at least that’s what they were at the beginning of last night’s game; don’t know whether last night’s game moved them in any direction) Colon sports a 3.14 ERA and is on Tony Bosch’s list of 20. So I don’t know how much you should take out of the fact that Colon held them down. I’ve seen Yankee pitchers Houdini out of an inning. Nothing says other pitchers can’t do it.

    Just sayin’

    Would it be nice to see offensive outbursts at the beginning of games? Sure it would.
    ——————————————————————————————————
    When Hafner hit that ball I never thought it would travel so far. That got my hopes up and then I was sad when the ball was caught just short of the wall.
    I like how the team did not give up and gave a great effort to make the game close, but if only the Yankees could have scored runs in the 1st inning. That was there golden opportunity and it was wasted.

    Then again, I just had a feeling C.C. was going to get hit hard because of his career
    numbers pitching in Oakland. I believe going home is a big distraction for him. I was nervous about this start since I read he would be pitching game 1 of the series last week.

  109. Patrick June 12th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    IPK is awesome.
    no Yankee pitchers would do that, this is just weak.

    No way, IPK is a punk. He threw at 3 guys, hitting two in the head. Then when the brawl broke out he ran away into the dugout

  110. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    G.Love agree on the Dickerson but he never was a full time option and…..

    You are the GM contemplating the return of Granderson, growth from Gardner and Ichiro signed for two years, three LH hitters.

    You have a stated need for RH bats since neither Arod or Jeter will be back until the 2013 season is half over.

    What do you conclude? Vernon Wells and whatever else you can scrape together!

  111. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Buster, you would think Buck might be able to read “Buck’s encyclopedia of baseball” to the assembled troops of every organization he’s been with and presto, magically they’d turn into winners?

    It’s that anal retentive persona that always gets him in trouble, check John Tortorella for the local example!

    Ultimately fear only motivates he weak!

  112. comnsnse June 12th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    RE: last night’s game. Imo I believe the game turned on the first inning and perhaps not so curiously with the Hafner at bat.

    While he ultimate drew a walk, he missed two fastball cookies down the middle which had he delivered at least a fly would have put us on the board immediately.

    Unfortunately Youk looks awful and Overbay had a very weak AB but…

    Maybe this is what Trish means by “hardcore reality”? ;)

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