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Nix up to No. 2 in the order

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 13, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Put another table setter near the top of the order, see if that helps.

Brett Gardner CF
Jayson Nix SS
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Travis Hafner DH
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Vernon Wells LF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Chris Stewart C

RHP Hiroki Kuroda

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124 Responses to “Nix up to No. 2 in the order”

  1. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    BRIAN CASHMAN

    “Remember all those Yankees fans crying about how all we do is hit home runs?” mused general manager Brian Cashman. “Now they’re crying, ‘We don’t score any runs.’”

    KEVIN LONG

    Said hitting coach Kevin Long: “We need more guys on base. The old walks and home runs are not really coming. You hate to say it again, but we don’t have home runs right now. It’s tough to string together a whole lot of hits against good pitching. Sometimes you need to pop a couple home runs off those guys, and we haven’t been able to do that.”

    MARK TEIXEIRA

    “You hate to say it again, but we don’t have home runs right now,” Mark Teixeira said. “It’s tough to string together a whole lot of hits against good pitching – we faced some pretty good pitching the last two nights. Bartolo was really good last night, and their guy pitched really well tonight. Sometimes you need to pop a couple home runs off those guys, and we haven’t been able to do that. … We just haven’t gotten it done.””

  2. jacksquat June 13th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    LOL

  3. Against All Odds June 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    blake June 13th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    ——————–

    Yep trying to do to much. The Yankee line-up used to be circular and deep.

  4. Ys Guy June 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    jessica quiroli scouted tyler austin at a recent thunder game for rotographs:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/fanta.....d-athlete/

  5. Warning Track Power June 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    UnKnown June 13th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    WTP – Perfectly said, nothing to add on that post. Let’s Play!!
    —————————————————————————————–
    Thank You!

    GO KURODA!

  6. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    did Chad just call Nix a “tablesetter”?

    NYPost not friendly to the Yanks either:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....q3AcG6JTAO

  7. austinmac June 13th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    I suppose Cashman interpreted the desire for hitters who could do something other than hit an occasional homer as wanting hitters who can’t hit homers or hit for average. It was just miscommunication. See it is our fault as Cashman suggests.

  8. jacksquat June 13th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Nix vs rhp: .224 .262 .302, 36 k in 116 ab. Nix vs rhp mostly sets up outs.

  9. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Wells plays, Adams sits. Yay!

  10. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    bigdan22 June 13th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Study that Long quote and you can see how it really de-emphasizes the hit tool. It’s all about power and taking walks. That’s exactly the type of offense the Yanks have had prior to this year. An offense that really gets exploited especially in the post season when quality pitchers have a plan and can consistently execute. Get ahead of the hitter then throw off speed pitches away or off the plate.

    _____________

    Bigdan you nailed it.

  11. bigdan22 June 13th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Study that Long quote and you can see how it really de-emphasizes the hit tool. It’s all about power and taking walks. That’s exactly the type of offense the Yanks have had prior to this year. An offense that really gets exploited especially in the post season when quality pitchers have a plan and can consistently execute. Get ahead of the hitter then throw off speed pitches away or off the plate.

  12. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    BRIAN CASHMAN

    “Remember all those Yankees fans crying about how all we do is hit home runs?” mused general manager Brian Cashman. “Now they’re crying, ‘We don’t score any runs.’”
    _

    Remember when Cashman used to be a humble, honest guy?

    Those were the days.

  13. bigdan22 June 13th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    sorry for repost. JB you been saying this forever.

  14. Against All Odds June 13th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
    Wells plays, Adams sits. Yay!

    ——————–

    It’s the right move we have to let this Youk kid play….he has a big future here.

  15. charlestonchew June 13th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    I know it’s just preaching to the choir, but if Adams is going to be on this roster, he needs to play.

  16. austinmac June 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Looking at this Yankee lineup, I am hard pressed to come up with a worse one in the MLB. The potentially worse ones at least have some youth.

  17. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    don’t hate on the 2007 All Star team

  18. RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
    blake June 13th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    “That’s a function of Cano becoming a very undisciplined hitter without the same talent he used to have…”

    I don’t think he’s declining yet…I just think his approach gets him in trouble and when nobody is behind him it’s amplified.
    ————-

    Well, empirically we know he’s not hitting lefties as well as he used to. And anecdotally, do you remember the last time he crushed a bad ball? It seems less often than he used to…

  19. jacksquat June 13th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Adams plays vs lhp. We haven’t faced many of them lately, but over an average year they face lhp about 1/3 of the games.

  20. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Adams isn’t a major prospect, but Murphy, or Austin, or Heathcott, or Sanchez (or all of them), could go into a prolonged slump when they are called up (if they aren’t traded).

    If they aren’t going to have the patience to deal with it, this team will spin its wheels.

  21. bigdan22 June 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Changing the subject a bit. I had job for awhile where I was often being interviewed by the press about stuff that was somewhat confidential. I wanted a good relationship with reporters but I didn’t want to disclose facts that should remain non-public. At that time, Cashman was a new GM. I admired his public statements because he was always circumspect and never seemed to BS reporters like I think a lot of GMs do. I also like the way he often used “no comment” which can be a real friend during interviews. I actually tried to adopt his approach.

    Boy has he changed.

  22. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    “Adams plays vs lhp”

    That’s all Wells should play against.

  23. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    to me, the most telling part of Cano’s ongoing whatever is that he no longer lashes his signature line-drives down the LF line…literallly never

  24. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Cashman resides within the Ivory Tower, high above the Plebes. Of course he has changed.

  25. Mike in Harrisburg June 13th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    It’s pretty darn frustrating having the team continue to abide by a hitting philosophy that seems so utterly futile. Especially after it looked like things were finally moving in the right direction.

  26. jacksquat June 13th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    “Adams plays vs lhp”

    That’s all Wells should play against.

    I wanted Overbay out there today. I think the offensive difference far outweighs the defensive difference. If defense is that important then Brignac should be at SS, and Adams at 3B.

  27. bruceb June 13th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Yanks trying to avoid their seventh successive defeat at the Coliseum this afternoon. Place has turned into the Trop.

  28. RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    “Adams plays vs lhp”

    That’s all Wells should play against.
    ———–

    And Wells is an outfielder. Does Adams have any outfield experience? They could start on it… since Wells is quite bad… but Wells isn’t the guy blocking his time.

  29. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Mike in Harrisburg,

    It’s a culture, nourished by vocal meat head gym rat wanna be self-proclaimed athletics experts like Kevin Long.

  30. Nick in SF June 13th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    People, please! I’m going to the game today, don’t bring me down.

  31. BIG AL June 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    So much for the thinking that once the “Big Guns” like Tex & Youk returned, the offence would go along with the good SP, and the Yankees would be OK.

    The joke is this team can be beat in most games, if the other team scores more than 2 runs.

    Now our SP is not what we expected, with CC being a #4 SP at best, sorry all you CC belivers, I just think he’s lost it in terms of what he was, to what he really is.

    Yankees SP
    #1 Kuroda: 6-5, ERA 2.84, WHIP 1.10
    #2 Pettitte: 5-3, ERA 3.82, WHIP 1.25
    #3 Phelps: 4-3, ERA 3.90, WHIP 1.27
    #4 CC: 6-5, ERA 4.07, WHIP 1.25
    #5 Hughes 3-5, ERA 4.89, WHIP 1.40

    So there you have it, the SP not as good as earlier in the season, and Gardner #1 & Stewart #2 in BA. Even a blind man can see this team is in big trouble if the bats we have don’t start responding, and/or Cashman doesn’t get a real good young bat, someone like Justin Upton, when he had the opening to get such an impact player.

    The next thing we’ll hear from Joe is Granderson will be back, and that will be the bat we need, and Pineda could be ready to help the rotation soon, smile, it’s all a joke.

    Hey Hal, all those empty seats, and soon YES ratings falling should tell you your plan has a few flaws.

  32. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Go early Nick and tell Teixeira that the TEX MESSENGERS are all pulling for him…

    To hit a dang SINGLE to opposite field.

  33. Tyler June 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    to me, the most telling part of Cano’s ongoing whatever is that he no longer lashes his signature line-drives down the LF line…literallly never
    ——————————————————————————-

    It seems like the whole team doesn’t take the ball the other way. That’s why I question Kevin Long. If it was just a couple guys it would be one thing but there’s got to be some overarching philosophy being stressed in the cages and B.P.

  34. austinmac June 13th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Is it just me or does Wells look like he is carrying a refrigerator on his back in the outfield? He doesn’t seem to get to a lot of balls.

  35. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    “And Wells is an outfielder. Does Adams have any outfield experience? They could start on it… since Wells is quite bad… but Wells isn’t the guy blocking his time.”

    As jacksquat said, Overbay should play.

    I personally think Adams, being young and improving, should play everyday. Youk isn’t going to be on the team next year.

  36. Warning Track Power June 13th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Nick in SF June 13th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    People, please! I’m going to the game today, don’t bring me down.
    —————————————————————————————————

    Did you score MVP seats on the visitor side for the game today? If you did, I am very jealous.
    I remember years ago those seats were prices very reasonably. About 4 yrs ago
    the A’s introduced flex pricing and the cost skyrocketed.

  37. comnsnse June 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    If those interviewed missed any cliché’s I’m sure they’ll find a few more as the season slogs on.

    The team has problems to be sure but to hear someone like Teixiera lay on the pablum is downright disgraceful since his self described “decline” is now in it’s fourth year!

  38. bruceb June 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    I thought the idea was that Tex was going to be “rested” now and again so that Overbay could play first base?

    \

  39. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Tyler,

    That’s the problem. What good are good new hitters if even good hitters can be vulnerable to bad habits? Our overarching philosophy manifests in a CONSTANT reinforcement of bad hitting habits. Pulling the ball. Trying to hit it your hardest on every swing. Over obsession with pitch selection rather than hitting the ball where it is thrown, naturally reacting to the ball. We have a system that in eery BP and every drill breeds hero ball.

  40. Mike in Harrisburg June 13th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    @Bustero

    It’s so damn discouraging to see it day in, day out. Tex to me remains the worst of the bunch and he’s on his way to being a guy a really don’t like on the team. That’s pretty rare for me, historically. Pavano. Brown. Farnsworth.

  41. mick June 13th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    People, please! I’m going to the game today, don’t bring me down.
    =========================
    Go have a beer with Old School.

  42. RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    I personally think Adams, being young and improving, should play everyday. Youk isn’t going to be on the team next year.
    ————

    Well, I imagine the Yankees liked what Youkilis showed prior to his injuries. It’s worth a shot seeing if they can get that back.

    Adams really didn’t help his case, but yeah, he does need time to adjust to the league.

    Both have ability, both have shown ability, both have struggled, and both are injury risks. I’m fine with the Yanks going with the veteran for now.

  43. mick June 13th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Our overarching philosophy manifests in a CONSTANT reinforcement of bad hitting habits. Pulling the ball.
    ====================
    Mr Steinbrenner, Tear down that Wall!

  44. RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    And I thought maybe Wells could turn the corner, but he’s at the end of his leash. They need to replace him.

  45. BIG AL June 13th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Why would you even consider resting Tex, how would the team win if their #4 batter, hitting .182 wasn’t there to drive in all those runs.

  46. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    “I’m fine with the Yanks going with the veteran for now.”

    That philosophy is an important reason whey they are in this mess.

    Since 2010, when their core was still producing at a high level, hey had the opportunity to integrate young players, either developed or acquired through potential trades, on to the roster, in order to avoid a situation in which their roster was dominated by aging, declining players.

    They passed.

  47. Jesus Bustero June 13th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Go easy on Tex he promotes the juice press. He’s the next Jack Lalane.

  48. tomingeorgia June 13th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    All the makings of a pitchers’ duel in Queens, with Wainright vs Harvey.

  49. longtimefan June 13th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    longtimefan June 13th
    More of the same, canned responses from manager, gm, hitting coach to the same old soft ball questions from the media, fact of the matter is this is an old, poorly put together team and most of the fans know that and are tired of the same old excuses. Blame falls on ownership, George was all about winning, H & H are all about bottom line but also look at all the empty seats at home games even in the sub-way series, team will be for sale shortly–sad.

  50. mick June 13th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Stubborn Girardi can do as he pleases, it’s his team.
    Playing Youk and Wells day after night game is a recipe to kill them.
    Unless that’s his plan.
    Injury replacements have worked out fine so far and they need some fresh blood.
    The Overbay experiment seems over as he misjudged a flyball.
    Adams has been banished as he had an adventure at 3rd.
    He will stick with his guys thru thick and thin b/c they , like all others, are just slumping.
    Funny how he cant make up his mind about the #2 hitter, thought he had that nailed.
    After all, you want your best hitter to get that extra AB, why not bat Cano leadoff?

  51. Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Are people talking about the David Adams with a current OPS of .587, or a different David Adams?

  52. UnKnown June 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    So what is the major lineup shake-up? Nix batting 2nd has been done before more than a few times. The players are who they are not much you can do I guess. Hope they figure it out.

    Last night Overbay in the OF would’ve been a disaster. Ichi got to a ton of tough balls. Of course with Kuroda on the mound today you might be able to get away with it.

    No doubt Mac, Wells looks like he is definitely struggling to get to balls in the OF that he had no problem getting to at the beginning of the season. I am not sure if his Offensive struggles are affecting him on defense. But he is giving us absolutely ZERO. I’m sure glad I never bought into the Bronx Is Vernon hype. What a disaster. (Probably hit two bombs today now.) :grin:

  53. RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Rich,

    ‘They could have made better trades’ is just about the weakest argument you could make. We just don’t know if that was possible or not.

    Who are the young players we could have developed and integrated, and where are they now? If you’re referring to either: Jesus Montero, Austin Jackson, or Ian Kennedy… they’re all below average this season!

    You’re argument is rooted in fantasy. The veteran approach, which earned them the best record in the American League last season, is rooted in reality.

  54. Warning Track Power June 13th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    UnKnown June 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
    So what is the major lineup shake-up? Nix batting 2nd has been done before more than a few times. The players are who they are not much you can do I guess. Hope they figure it out.

    Last night Overbay in the OF would’ve been a disaster. Ichi got to a ton of tough balls. Of course with Kuroda on the mound today you might be able to get away with it.

    No doubt Mac, Wells looks like he is definitely struggling to get to balls in the OF that he had no problem getting to at the beginning of the season. I am not sure if his Offensive struggles are affecting him on defense. But he is giving us absolutely ZERO. I’m sure glad I never bought into the Bronx Is Vernon hype. What a disaster. (Probably hit two bombs today now.)
    ————————————————————————————————————
    Overbay might not have caught any of those balls that Ichiro did.
    Girardi did the right thing by putting Overbay on the bench with Hughes on the mound.
    Give the man some credit when its deserved

  55. RadioKev June 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    And I could not care less about the Detroit Tigers last season. They sucked. They got blown out of the World Series. Their record was not even playoff worthy.

    ‘Stuff happens,’ as they say (on censored blogs).

  56. G. Love June 13th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    I would’ve DH’d Overbay and batted him 2nd today to shake things up.

  57. mick June 13th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    The injury to Jeter begat Nunez who begat Brignac.
    The injury to Arod begat Youk who begat Adams.
    The injury to Granderson begat Wells.
    The injury to Tex begat Overbay.

    The injuries to all of the above begat Nix who has not been replaced.

  58. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    I think Stewart should lead off and Gardner should bat 4th…put Cano 9th to see if he remembers his roots

  59. UnKnown June 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Yeah I definitely agree, Girardi has done great. He just doesn’t have a lot of face cards to work with. And the ones that he does have seem to be the wrong suit. If you catch my drift.

    I’m still not overly sold on Overbay in the OF as a risk worth taking where he makes it up offensively. Right now giving up 1 run is like trying to score 3. Really got to focus on not letting the other team score.

  60. comnsnse June 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    With respect to the question of hitting philosophy and blaming any hitting coach for our obvious woes, it’s simply absurd.

    Does anyone still believe that Long in this case is going to work some mysterious magic on players like Wells, Ichiro,Youkilis and Overbay?

    This group is finished as everyday players accept it, none would be regulars on any team in MLB.

    Players like Nix and Stewart are role players forced into everyday roles by circumstances beyond the control of the mgr. and coaches.

    Nunez whom much had been expected of has flopped perhaps due to injuries but he too does not have a future as a Yankee.

    We really have no idea how much better we would be with our injured “stars” back. Granderson is what he is and always has been , power, decent D but never an average hitter. Tex once both an average hitter with power has been corrupted by the stadium, perhaps his contract and his whining comment that “I may be declining” !

    Would Jeter still be able to play at 2012′s level at 39?

    And as for Arod who arguably had the worst contract in MLB until Pujols and a few of the contracts approaching 300mm. for pitchers, he was declining for several years and is a shell of the player whose career will be forever marred by steroid use.

    The only real mystery that I see is Cano whose mechanics are currently fraught with issues. Is it the contract, maybe he needs glasses or is simply trying to do too much.

    So, at the end of the day all this angst about managing and coaching is overdone imo, you have a lot of “names” on this roster who at one time were top flight players who are not anymore and role players who should be that and not starters.

    Any dissection of the pitching staff has similar issues of age and inconsistency.

    There are only two dynamics will could help the organization at this point, a few legitimate minor league surprises or………..money!

  61. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    yes, our lineup is now like the ’85 Cardinals, without the speed and talent

  62. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    “Are people talking about the David Adams with a current OPS of .587, or a different David Adams?”

    Wait? It’s unreasonable to expect developing players to struggle?

  63. jacksquat June 13th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    No one said to put Overbay in the outfield yesterday.

    Today you could put him in LF.

  64. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    I wish somebody who cares would play Musty for me

  65. NYYROC June 13th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Mick, easy on the “begat”. I feel like I’m reading the Old Testament! :)

  66. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Who are the young players we could have developed and integrated, and where are they now? If you’re referring to either: Jesus Montero, Austin Jackson, or Ian Kennedy… they’re all below average this season!

    You’re argument is rooted in fantasy. The veteran approach, which earned them the best record in the American League last season, is rooted in reality.
    _

    Why is this season the relevant test?

    What’s fantasy is to believe that this is the best way to spend $230m.

  67. UnKnown June 13th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    I would’ve DH’d Overbay and batted him 2nd today to shake things up.
    ——–

    This I would endorse and also qualify as a shake-up. Maybe Ichiro 3rd (seems to be hitting better lately) and Cano clean-up. Throw Tex in the 5 spot.

    I mean IDK that is probably crazy but at least it’s a shake-up.

  68. Warning Track Power June 13th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    for those of you looking ahead to next week, the Yankees are scheduled to
    miss both Kershaw and Greinke in the 2 game series next Tues and Wed.
    both are scheduled to pitch this weekend. meaning they won’t be facing The Yankees.
    AWESOME!!!

  69. Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    “Wait? It’s unreasonable to expect developing players to struggle?”

    Well, it’s fair to say he’s struggling. But I don’t see him in the Yankee future. If Bosch were healthy I suspect Adams wouldn’t be part of the Yankee present.

  70. Russell Munson June 13th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    The problem is you can’t sit Wells against righties because you don’t have a real fourth outfielder except for Brett Gardner and he’s starting in center.

  71. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    won’t matter who hits where if Oakland keeps popping balls over the wall-thingies

  72. DONNYBROOK June 13th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    See what the price is on Eric Young Jr. I would give him a look-see, and sit Wells and or Ichiro. Adams can go down, and the usual suspects can be eye-balled for the 40 Man Roster spot. Young is a spark plug, plays IF and OF, and has speed to burn. He does need to play on a regular basis to display his talents.

  73. UnKnown June 13th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    The Yankees never miss the other team’s best starters. Lady Luck is a turning. :wink:

  74. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    “Well, it’s fair to say he’s struggling. But I don’t see him in the Yankee future. If Bosch were healthy I suspect Adams wouldn’t be part of the Yankee present.”

    They played Wells and Ichiro over Boesch even though both were sucking.

  75. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    our rsoter and back-ups actually has us all inventing new levels of suck to describe who sits where in the pecking order

  76. Russell Munson June 13th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    “Are people talking about the David Adams with a current OPS of .587, or a different David Adams?”

    Are people talking about the Dustin Pedroia with a current OPS of .561, or a different Dustin Pedroia?”

    -Wave Your Red Sox Hat, October 2006.

  77. DONNYBROOK June 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Chamberlain turning into Farnsworth before our very eyes. Better deal him ASAP. His value drops every time Girardi runs him out there. The speed gun continues to be the only thing propping up his value.

  78. Tackelberry June 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    “It’s so damn discouraging to see it day in, day out. Tex to me remains the worst of the bunch and he’s on his way to being a guy a really don’t like on the team”

    Tex has actually been swinging the bat well lately. Had a couple of hits the other night, and last night hit 2 ropes. One right at the right fielder and the other to the deepest part of the ballpark. We desperately need Cano to pick it up and YOuk to start hititng.

  79. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    at least Farnsworth has the gun to back up the badge…no one messes with him, but I think guys around the league and even on the Yanks would line up to throw fists with Joba

  80. Tackelberry June 13th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    funny thing is, I bet Chamberlain goes somewhere else and flourishes, like Farnsworth has done.

  81. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    damn midges changed the course of Yankee histroy

  82. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Tex has to play. For better or worse, he is part of the furniture for three more years, and it’s not like he has been bad when he has been healthy, just not nearly what they had thought he would be when they gave him $23m a year.

  83. 86w183 June 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    On an unrelated note Baseball America reports the Yanks have signed 6th round pick, SS John Murphy for just $ 20,000.

    This was obviously a slot-buster type draft pick, saving about $ 180 K that can be used to help sign others… most notably Ian Clarkin

  84. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    yeah, Tex is like the couch that my grandmother still keeps the plastic cover on

  85. Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    “Are people talking about the Dustin Pedroia with a current OPS of .561, or a different Dustin Pedroia?”

    Did I really say that? I think not. Surely I wasn’t posting in 2006.

    Or do you think David Adams is the next Dustin Pedroia? I think not.

  86. Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    “They played Wells and Ichiro over Boesch even though both were sucking.”

    Yuch. I didn’t want Wells or Ichiro and Russell Munson could look it up. I wanted Dickerson if the Yanks insisted on austerity.

  87. Jerkface June 13th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    On an unrelated note Baseball America reports the Yanks have signed 6th round pick, SS John Murphy for just $ 20,000.

    Holy crap! Where is that kid from/where was he picked to go in the draft because 20k for a 6th round pick is hilariously short. Any post 10th round pick can get 100k without affecting the pool, feel bad for that kid.

  88. Jerkface June 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Did I really say that? I think not. Surely I wasn’t posting in 2006.

    Or do you think David Adams is the next Dustin Pedroia? I think not.

    I think ole Russell Munson is saying that something similar could have been said of Pedroia. Adams is prolly not gonna be a pedroia, but they are similar good hitters in the minor leagues and Adams has always had a good swing and the production to back it up. His struggles do not mean he is not a major league player or that he should see reduced playing time.

  89. Captain Clutch June 13th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Overbay should be in the lineup more often. They were winning when he was in there and now you throw Youk and Tex in there and it’s not a surprise that they are struggling. In a smaller ballpark put Overbay in RF, let him play 1st and DH Tex or let him DH.

  90. Warning Track Power June 13th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    DONNYBROOK June 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Chamberlain turning into Farnsworth before our very eyes. Better deal him ASAP. His value drops every time Girardi runs him out there. The speed gun continues to be the only thing propping up his value.
    ————————————————————————————————
    I just knew Joba was going to give up a run or two last night.
    When I noticed he failed to go with his change up, I was convinced there was trouble ahead.

    Remember the A’s pitcher who threw a 3-2 change up to Stewart last night for the K?
    That’s what Joba should have done.
    But no, he has to stick with his fastball and slider combo that got him nowhere last night.
    A change up to some of those hitters would have probably resulted in a better outcome.

  91. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    My favorite YES booth was whichever one Kim Jones was in

  92. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Who do you have to pay to get a question posted in the RAB chat? They sure don’t like to yuk it up over there like we very occasionally do here

  93. 86w183 June 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Dickerson/Rivera would have been a much better RF combo for much less $$$ than Ichiro is costing this year and next.

    I’m not as down on Girardi/Cashman than many of you because of the ridiculous injury situation they have had to navigate. They re really limited in what they can do when really expensive guys go down because the Yanks have to keep them when they come back.

  94. Warning Track Power June 13th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Captain Clutch June 13th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
    Overbay should be in the lineup more often. They were winning when he was in there and now you throw Youk and Tex in there and it’s not a surprise that they are struggling. In a smaller ballpark put Overbay in RF, let him play 1st and DH Tex or let him DH.
    —————————————————————————————–
    Tex and Youk are paid a lot more money than Overbay=Tex and Youk are going to get a lot more at bats. Get used to it.
    Overbay was a great replacement while Tex was injured, but Tex has returned and the 1st base job is his no matter what.

  95. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    “yeah, Tex is like the couch that my grandmother still keeps the plastic cover on”

    If only the Tex they signed had been similarly well-preserved. ;)

  96. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    To me, Wells will be nothing more than an “oh yeah” blip on the Yankees’ historical radar, a la Pudge Rodriguez…if the Yanks really do start hitting their way into the playoffs, I’d much rather see Hafner still on the team

  97. 86w183 June 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    On an unrelated note Baseball America reports the Yanks have signed 6th round pick, SS John Murphy for just $ 20,000.

    Holy crap! Where is that kid from/where was he picked to go in the draft because 20k for a 6th round pick is hilariously short. Any post 10th round pick can get 100k without affecting the pool, feel bad for that kid.

    *************************************************************************

    He’s a college senior not likely to move very far in the system. Don’t feel badly for him. He would not have gone in the top 20 rounds. He agreed to sign for small $$$, the Yanks added an “organizational” player (non prospect) and freed cash to get the top talent signed.

    Everybody wins.

    Other teams are doing it. Oakland got its ninth and tenth round picks signed for $ 7,500 and $ 5,000 respectively.

  98. Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    ” His struggles do not mean he is not a major league player or that he should see reduced playing time.”

    Nor do they mean he is a major league player or should see more playing time.

    I don’t understand the fascination with Adams. I think it is a product of needing some position player in the Yankee high minors to believe in. But he isn’t a third baseman and he is blocked at second by Cano. If Cano leaves (heaven forbid, what will the offense look like then?), we can talk about Adams.

  99. Rich in NJ June 13th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    “I’m not as down on Girardi/Cashman than many of you because of the ridiculous injury situation they have had to navigate. They re really limited in what they can do when really expensive guys go down because the Yanks have to keep them when they come back.”

    But isn’t that what a good mL system is supposed to be able to hedge against by having at least some quality ML ready position players available if veterans get hurt?

    btw, I don’t blame Girardi for the lack of mL options.

  100. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    As the season wears on, Yankee opponents will soon start defensive shifts to the lying down position

  101. Jerkface June 13th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    I don’t understand the fascination with Adams.

    He is one of our best minor league hitters in the past 5 years. Consistently a very good hitter. He is one of the few prospects who had an upside of ‘above average hitter’ in the major leagues.

  102. Captain Clutch June 13th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    but Tex has returned and the 1st base job is his no matter what.
    ———–

    Right that’s why I said let Overbay play RF or DH. Wells can’t be in the lineup everyday and Hafner needs his days off. Tex is going to be in there everyday it would just be nice if he would start hitting.

  103. G. Love June 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    I’m waiting for Maddon to move all his OF’er to RF when Tex bats LH.

  104. Jerkface June 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    He’s a college senior not likely to move very far in the system. Don’t feel badly for him. He would not have gone in the top 20 rounds. He agreed to sign for small $$$, the Yanks added an “organizational” player (non prospect) and freed cash to get the top talent signed.

    Everybody wins.

    Other teams are doing it. Oakland got its ninth and tenth round picks signed for $ 7,500 and $ 5,000 respectively.

    Yea with the pools its a smart strategy, though I think not one MLB wants to see happening. Figured he was either a senior or a very unheralded HS player. Hope they can get Clarkin with the savings.

  105. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Yankees just announced via Twitter that the Yankees will wear black armbands for the remainder of this season to commemorate Cano’s old hitting skills

  106. 86w183 June 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Rich —-

    No question the MLB ready players in the system are seemingly all pitchers. they have not drafted well for the most part…. especially the first half of this decade.

    I follow the draft very closely and am certain this is the best draft class they’ve had in years.

  107. gallagwar June 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Can we stop the Lyle Overbay farewell tour and just dump the guy already? Thanks for the memories. Maybe the Mets will sign you once Jordany Valdespin finishes making a fool of himself for two weeks.

  108. DONNYBROOK June 13th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Somebody should force Hughes to endlessly watch that game Colon pitched Tuesday night. Colon had nothin’ and tied the Yankees up in knots. As Cool Hand Luke said, “Sometimes a whole lotta nothin’, can be a really Cool Hand”

  109. Chip June 13th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Jerkface June 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    He’s a college senior not likely to move very far in the system. Don’t feel badly for him. He would not have gone in the top 20 rounds. He agreed to sign for small $$$, the Yanks added an “organizational” player (non prospect) and freed cash to get the top talent signed.

    Everybody wins.

    Other teams are doing it. Oakland got its ninth and tenth round picks signed for $ 7,500 and $ 5,000 respectively.

    Yea with the pools its a smart strategy, though I think not one MLB wants to see happening. Figured he was either a senior or a very unheralded HS player. Hope they can get Clarkin with the savings.
    ———————-

    According to the NY Post Clarkin is in Tampa for a physical today and will sign.

  110. Hassey June 13th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Yes, Donny – Hughes problem is that he eats too many eggs bewteen innings

  111. Chip June 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    ” His struggles do not mean he is not a major league player or that he should see reduced playing time.”

    Nor do they mean he is a major league player or should see more playing time.

    I don’t understand the fascination with Adams. I think it is a product of needing some position player in the Yankee high minors to believe in. But he isn’t a third baseman and he is blocked at second by Cano. If Cano leaves (heaven forbid, what will the offense look like then?), we can talk about Adams.
    ————

    Wave – Adams is a high average/on base guy which is exactly what the Yankees need to add to the lineup. He’s struggled thus far in his major league career but, given that he was in AA at this time last year, I would say that’s understandable.

    He’s not a prototypical 3b with huge power – he’s more of a Placido Polanco type of guy

  112. Captain Clutch June 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    I wish that Adams would get a real chance so we can see what he can do. Last night he should have been pinch hit for Romine not Stewart. But it seems like Girardi soured on him after he slumped a little bit. He hit over .300 in AAA against righties so he doesn’t have to only play against lefties but I get that it’s hard to get him in the lineup now against righties.

  113. DONNYBROOK June 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    I’m trying to figure out why Brignac is on the team. Brignac sits vs righties, while Girardi continues his love affair with Nix.

  114. Jerkface June 13th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    According to the NY Post Clarkin is in Tampa for a physical today and will sign.

    Sweet, just need to get Judge then!

  115. Wave Your Hat June 13th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    “He is one of our best minor league hitters in the past 5 years. Consistently a very good hitter. He is one of the few prospects who had an upside of ‘above average hitter’ in the major leagues.”

    I guess everyone has to believe in something.

    Here’s a good game. Name the best Yankee minor league hitters of the last five years. AAA and AA only.

  116. 86w183 June 13th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Nix has an OPs of .618. That’s not good

    Brignac has an OPS of .310…. that’s beyond pathetic.

    I do think Adams should be getting out there more Or get sent down for Mustelier who could help in the OF too.

    and PLEASE send Warren to Scranton and let him start. He hasn’t pitched in nine games

  117. blake June 13th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    G. Love says:
    June 13, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    I’m waiting for Maddon to move all his OF’er to RF when Tex bats LH.

    That would be hilarious …… And effective

  118. gallagwar June 13th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    And just as soon as I post that, Jordany Valdespin, after turning a double play, starts running toward the dugout. There were only two outs.

  119. blake June 13th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Pumped about Clarkin….judge will sign…..Id love to get them all playing as soon as possible. Actually put Jag at 3B tonight for all I care…..he couldn’t do worse

  120. blake June 13th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    They pulled the plug on Adams as soon as he struggled and went back to Youk who can barely even play 3B

  121. comnsnse June 13th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Hassey& NYRocc very funny stuff guys!

    What have we wrought when knowledgeable fans/posters are clamoring for more playing time for Adams who has really done nothing since his first few games and Overbay who was unwanted by every other team in MLB?

    Adams would have to be on a team that gave him 50 games playing to prove himself while Overbay would have his pick of beer league rosters.

    If anyone is deluding themselves that Cashman/Girardi will change their tune or who plays when Wells and Ichiro are on board for another year and Youk who is finished are collecting almost 40mm. between them, it will not happen.

    This org. may make a few minor moves but if they throw Wells, Ichiro and about 24mm. plus Youk under the bus then Cashman should be right there as well!

    If they are pushing Toronto for last in the east by 7-31, then we will see how they view the future and if Cashman and friends know what they’re doing without the big bucks!

  122. comnsnse June 13th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    86w183, I think if they send Adams down he’d be subject to waivers if they try to recall him, but you’re right about Warren.

    Maybe the desperation will force them to once again “eat their young”!

  123. austinmac June 13th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Hassey,

    Funny stuff especially to “lay down” defense. It would let the position players rest for their at bats. First, they will sit the outfielders for Ichiro. Balls he hits to the outfield don’t go beyond the reach of the infielders.

  124. 86w183 June 13th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Gotta move on…. enjoy the afternoon folks…. 5-3 Yanks win

    If I’m wrong my next prediction will be absolutely free

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