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Mattingly returns to the Bronx amidst turmoil in LA

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Don Mattingly

By Vincent Z. Mercogliano
vmercoglia@lohud.com
NEW YORK – It’s been a wild season on the West Coast for Los Angeles Dodgers manager Don Mattingly, but the former Yankees legend has remained composed in the face of constant speculation about his job security.

“I had a good training ground, I’ll put it that way,” Mattingly said before Tuesday’s series opener with the Yankees was postponed due to rain. “I think George (Steinbrenner) liked controversy. His thing was, good publicity or bad publicity, its still publicity. I kind of grew up, in a sense, with it. … For me, it prepares you to just weather it and not take it personal.”

Mattingly’s calmness under pressure has helped him navigate his way through a difficult two and a half months with this underachieving Dodgers’ team. Los Angeles sits 10 games under .500 entering Wednesday, but the longtime Yankee first baseman’s manner has not wavered.

Mattingly was known for his business-like approach during his 14 seasons in pinstripes, which convinced the late Steinbrenner to name him as team captain and endeared him to New York fans. Those fans will have to wait one more day to see him manage at Yankee Stadium for the first time, with the Dodgers now set to play a split doubleheader against the Yankees on Wednesday at 1 and 7 p.m.

“Obviously, it’s good to come back,” Mattingly said. “You don’t quite understand the relationship, honestly. I came from a small town, loved playing, came here and just played. I pretty much tried to keep it as simple as that, and they seemed to appreciate that. It was nice for me, because I didn’t have to do anything except play.”

Mattingly is considered to be one of the greatest Yankees of all-time, with a plaque in Monument Park to prove it. He finished his career with a .307 batting average, winning nine Gold Gloves and an American League MVP award in 1985.

Mattingly’s only blemish was never winning a championship. He retired after the 1995 season; just one year before the Yankees began their run of four titles in five years.

“I was a big fan of his,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. “He’s been such a big part of Yankee history, and the way he played the game. I’m anxious to hear who gets the louder cheer today – him or (Mariano Rivera), if he comes in the game. I think that’s probably the only one who can measure up to him tonight, and he deserves that.”

Mattingly’s opportunity to continue to chase a championship as a Yankee came prior to the 2008 season after longtime manager Joe Torre was let go. He was one of the three finalists for the opening – along with Girardi and current bench coach Tony Pena – but he was passed over for the job.

“Obviously, you compete and want that job, so there was a little disappointment,” Mattingly said. “I didn’t go through the interview process and all of that not to get it, but I felt like I was treated really well through that process. (General manager Brian Cashman) I thought was great. He was up front and honest with me about everything. To be very honest with you, it was a blessing for me.”

Mattingly followed Torre to Los Angeles to serve as his bench coach, eventually taking over as manager in 2011. And while his star-studded team has been dealing with mounting losses and injuries, he continues to use the lessons learned while playing for Steinbrenner under the bright lights in New York.

“It’s a learning experience,” Mattingly said. “I look at it like a lot of other things. I’m not the first manager that’s had to deal with it, and I’m not going to be the last manager who’s had to deal with it. … It can only stay at that level for so long, and then you either get fired, or you don’t.”

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156 Responses to “Mattingly returns to the Bronx amidst turmoil in LA”

  1. mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    “I had a good training ground, I’ll put it that way,” Mattingly said before Tuesday’s series opener with the Yankees was postponed due to rain. “I think George (Steinbrenner) liked controversy. His thing was, good publicity or bad publicity, its still publicity. I kind of grew up, in a sense, with it. … For me, it prepares you to just weather it and not take it personal.”
    =============================================
    Good advise for anybody.

  2. fantasygame101 June 18th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    if things goes right for mattingly, he could be the manager of the new York Yankees next season.

  3. mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    -advice-

  4. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Welcome home, Donnie Baseball. Wish you could stay :)

  5. fantasygame101 June 18th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    what is the chance the player development people helps Martinez reach his once very promising potential?

  6. Pat M. June 18th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Donnie Baseball’s LA Dodgers have had 16 different guys on the DL this season and that list is quite impressive as well. They’ll be in the hunt come September, they have too much talent and watch for them to make a big play for Cliff Lee. Great shopping in Beverly Hills for Mrs. Lee

  7. yankeefeminista June 18th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    I’d really love to see Donnie Baseball at the Stadium tomorrow. And hear his name in roll call. :)

    Last DH I went to was the 9/2011 Jorge PH game vs. the Rays. Talk about “into it” crowds at NYS; that was one of them.

  8. Jerkface June 18th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    The Yankees cant get a 26th man for their double header because there wasn’t 48 hours notice of the DH.

  9. mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    The Yankees cant get a 26th man for their double header because there wasn’t 48 hours notice of the DH.
    ==============
    where do you find these things?

  10. sammiejohnson June 18th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    The Yankees cant get a 26th man for their double header because there wasn’t 48 hours notice of the DH.
    ==============
    where do you find these things?

    ___________________________________

    Twitter….

  11. Chip June 18th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    0 downside to getting Martinez for a reliever with an ERA over 5 who has never been higher than short season ball.

  12. MTU June 18th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    Have a good evening all.

    See you tomorrow.

  13. Chip June 18th, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    Night MTU

  14. yankeefeminista June 18th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Isn’t Martinez on the biogenesis list? I guess we aren’t overly concerned about the roiders after all.

    Good night, MTU!

  15. mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Twitter….
    =======
    nah

  16. Chip June 18th, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    yankeefeminista June 18th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Isn’t Martinez on the biogenesis list? I guess we aren’t overly concerned about the roiders after all.

    Good night, MTU!
    ——————

    If he gets suspended he gets suspended. It’s a nothing move. The Yankees need outfielders in Scranton and they found one that’s available. My guess is that he’ll be cut when Boesch, Mesa and Mustelier come off the DL anyway.

  17. Nick in SF June 18th, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    Gooooooooaaaaaaaaaal!

    (USA)

  18. mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

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    http://www.thecubreporter.com/.....html/3506?

  19. ecc16 June 18th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Thr mets might have something special with a 1 2 punch of Harvey and Wheeler

  20. sammiejohnson June 18th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    mick June 18th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Twitter….
    =======
    nah

    ________________________________________

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa 4h
    No idea who NYY will call-up as the 26th man tomorrow, but Jose Ramirez is lined up to start at AAA

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa 4h
    Hah, so dumb. RT @bkabak: @mikeaxisa No 26th man. As @bmitchelf noted, DHs must be scheduled 48 hours in advance. Idiotic.

  21. yankeefeminista June 18th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Chip, I don’t disagree, but I just realized F-Mart is on the infamous list. So, here’s hoping there are no double standards. If we get a reasonable facsimile of Alex back, I will welcome him with open arms.

  22. yankeefeminista June 18th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    What a silly rule.

  23. Nick in SF June 18th, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    The idea is that it would be harder for the visiting team to get its 26th man in place, so the home team shouldn’t have the advantage.

    USA!

  24. Pat M. June 18th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    Nick in SF…..Are The Spurs really going to pull this off ???? 280.00 was my money line…If they lose tonight The Heat takes them out in game 7

  25. Nick in SF June 18th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    I sure hope they take care of it tonight. I don’t have anything on the game, just the Spurs in the series. I don’t think I’ll feel secure about the outcome tonight until the trophy ceremony.

  26. Pat M. June 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Nick in SF….I hear ya pal…..SJ is sweating this out, big Heat fan

  27. mick June 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Mike Miller for 3 with one sneaker on, wow!

  28. mick June 18th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Pat M…If you want a good laugh go see This Is The End.

  29. jskwrite June 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    anyone try to buy tickets on yankees ticket exchange for the first game tomorrow? You can’t… they haven’t added it. Another reason to wish they’d kept stubhub officially. And I could go tomorrow afternoon.. oh well.

  30. Triple Short of a Cycle June 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    This is why Lebron will never be as good as Jordan.

  31. Pat M. June 18th, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    Nor will he be as good as Kobe Bryant

  32. Nick in SF June 18th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    Late game drama. Tense.

  33. Triple Short of a Cycle June 18th, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    Crap I had turned off the game when the Spurs got the ball back up by 3. How did the Heat tie it?

  34. Pat M. June 18th, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    Holy Shtt, Ray Allen…..Color me very concerned

  35. mick June 18th, 2013 at 11:54 pm

    an nba classic…

  36. Nick in SF June 18th, 2013 at 11:54 pm

    Ray Allen three with 5 seconds left.

  37. Triple Short of a Cycle June 18th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Does every stadium chant that White Stripes song now?

  38. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:03 am

    anyone go on the yankees site to try for the 1pm game tomorrow? their secondary market thing doesn’t list the game.

  39. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:06 am

    go to stubhub, they have the 1 pm game.

  40. BoJo June 19th, 2013 at 12:07 am

    ” it prepares you to just weather it and not take it personal.””
    ===============
    Does anyone else wonder about our educational institutions?
    (Resists urge to go all spelling Nazi on the substitute writer)

  41. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am

    SH does have the game, but not the guarantee anymore because they don’t have the official deal anymore… but definitely looking there. I think lack of volume because they don’t have that automatic integration is hurting the buyer’s market.

    Still “real bad job” as Francesa would say by yanks with their stupid secondary market site.

  42. BoJo June 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am

    I think I know which team Cleveland is rooting for….

  43. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:10 am

    hasn’t the italian soccer chant been around longer than the actual song white stripes song?

  44. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:11 am

    i already used stubhub this year, no issues as usual…

  45. Pat M. June 19th, 2013 at 12:12 am

    Man the zebras have swallowed their whistles tonight in crunch time when The Spurs had the ball……Bad , bad , bad

  46. Nick in SF June 19th, 2013 at 12:13 am

    :mad:

  47. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    great nba game tonight. just great.

  48. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am

    i haven’t used Stubhub yet this year but that’s good to know.

  49. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am

    you just forget chris bosch is out there….until he reminds you.

    that was some last couple of minutes plus OT for him.

  50. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am

    I can’t stand the Heat but went to college with ray ray so i’m as confused who to root for as a Cavaliers fan. I just bet Spurs win easily in Game 7.

  51. BoJo June 19th, 2013 at 12:18 am

    If San Antonia wins game 7 in Miami, they certainly will have earned their spurs.

  52. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:20 am

    i go the other way. san an was about 10 seconds from the championship only to have i ripped from their grasp.

    i see the heat winning easily in game 7.

  53. mick June 19th, 2013 at 12:22 am

    1pm game is over priced considering they cant attend and a tough last minute go

  54. mick June 19th, 2013 at 12:23 am

    parker on the bench was crazy

  55. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:24 am

    cmon mick buy the $18 seat and sneak down. last game i went to i bought an $8 ticket and ended up in the 2nd row in the nys equivalent of the reggie section.

  56. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:28 am

    well, i pretty much dropped gerrit cole to add zack wheeler on most of my fbb teams. i fell pretty good about it tonight, anyway…

  57. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:29 am

    it is overpriced for a rainout that probably at least a third of ticket holders won’t be able to attend.. to my point that it sucks they don’t have stubhub officially so you could just type in your codes and seat info… But yeah, sneaking down is ridiculously easy at Yankee Stadium (especially vs. Citi Field)

  58. mick June 19th, 2013 at 12:29 am

    true on that, went in immediately after it was called and scored some good ones, too bad they were rejected .
    turns out they were for the original game before they reset.

    cant just go to the 1st game, would have to go for both…

  59. jskwrite June 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am

    There’s only about 400 available… it should be more like 2000 for a rainout on such short notice. i got my price alerts set and going to bed soon.

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 12:45 am

    OT – Just got done watching a made-for-television movie about the Beach Boys. Wow some really crazy stuff went on in their lives. Their father was a total task master so they fired him as their manager. In turn, he sold their songs (called Sea of Tunes catalogue) behind their backs for $700,000 in 1969. They say it’s now worth an estimated $75 mil. Also, Dennis the drummer hung out for a while with Charles Manson and his charming crew. Manson also auditioned to be in the Beach Boys. Yikes!!

    Really good movie though with a lot of their songs as part of it. Really nice harmonies (In MY Room especially).

  61. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 12:45 am

    i really wish i could go tomorrow. i intended to go today but stuff kept me away fortunately as it turned out…

  62. jacksquat June 19th, 2013 at 1:19 am

    pkyankfan69 June 18th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Chavez got $3 mill from the D-Backs… He liked his time in NY, he would have stayed for an extra few million.

    This is just unfounded assumption. Chavez himself said he wanted to play close to home. Is it possible they could have waived money in front of him? Sure. It’s much more realistic to just believe what the man actually said though.

    This Chavez stuff is just a weak attempt by some here to find any way to pile on Cashman I think. (I see that was the topic du jour again today)

    Stick to the more legitimate stuff like Darvish and the Cubans.

  63. Pat M. June 19th, 2013 at 1:53 am

    The thought in the Bronx is this…….The difference between Pineda and Darvish will not be that noticeable on the field…..It’s in the accounting office is wher the huge gap is. 100 million more for Darvish. Now we wait for the next 3 years and see how close they really are talent wise

  64. CompassRosy June 19th, 2013 at 3:07 am

    Kind of a crazy game in Anaheim tonight.

    I thought you Yankee fans might get a kick out of this . . .

    “The Bartender” (our closer) has been having some issues of late, so is not currently closing. Tonight he gave up a solo shot to Pujols that tied the game 2-2 in the 8th (after Bonderman had thrown his third straight QS). He was able to retire the next three batters and then came out for the 9th, got into some trouble but, managed to escape unscathed.

    Anyhoo, after the M’s took the lead in the top of the 10th, Yoervis Medina came in and earned his first career save. In his post game interview he said, [paraphrased] “For an inning, I felt like Mariano Rivera.”

    :-)

    (p.s. you can click on my name to see the full game post)

  65. ron June 19th, 2013 at 7:03 am

    Problem ith the dodgers is,the players they have get injured a lot,and have a reputation of doing so.
    Hanley,becket,cc,agone,etc…
    I just don’t see them getting healthy.
    It puzzles me that a team with that talent,and greinke,kershaw,and their pitching can struggle in the nl.
    You just can’t predict baseball.
    Imo,with the list of characters in la,they need to clean house,and build around that pitching,minus becket.
    This is why I wanted the Yankees to clean house,and start over.
    With the Yankees lack of high picks,and the 189,it will be difficult finding a way to compete,unless of course our prospects just go nuts.
    Tradinbg cano,granderson,hughes,joba,allows us to bypass our low draft position,and get some really good prospects that are very close to the majors,instead of waiting 5 years.

  66. GregD June 19th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    I for one don’t want the Yankees to just spend, spend, spend…..would love to see them develop some prospects in addition to spending for free agents. They can have the highest payroll in baseball but I hate that they fund other teams who refuse to spend. Spending $100 Million on Darvish is a risky investment……injuries make that so……

  67. Rich in NJ June 19th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    The thought in the Bronx is this…….The difference between Pineda and Darvish will not be that noticeable on the field…..It’s in the accounting office is wher the huge gap is. 100 million more for Darvish. Now we wait for the next 3 years and see how close they really are talent wise
    -

    Why do we have to wait 3 years? Darvish’s ERA+ was 113 in his first year in MLB, Pineda’s was 101. Davish’s ERA+ is now 151. Let’s see Pineda match that in his second season.

    When the NYY have become a franchise that relies on accounting rather than their financial advantage, and in the process ignore an obvious difference in both versatility of stuff and performance, it is time to reevaluate what passes for thought in the Bronx.

  68. RadioKev June 19th, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Bummer about the rainout… probably won’t get to see either game today.

  69. blake June 19th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    “Spending $100 Million on Darvish is a risky investment……injuries make that so……”

    so is trading your best prospect for a guy with a half season success in the big leagues…..not that Montero has performed well etc but just the principle of doing that.

    Darvish was a big investment….however with regards to the luxury tax (which is all the Yankees seem to be worried about given that they wasted a lot of money this year to roll out this team with a 230 million dollar payroll)…..Yu is pretty cheap at around 9 million AAV.

    The Yankees really played it very conservatively the winter before last….they made no significant play on Darvish, Cespedes, Soler, Puig etc…..maybe they did on some but not enough to get the player. In the end that decision will probably cost them more money if they want to continue to win as they are going to have to find other probably more expensive players.

  70. RadioKev June 19th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    Pat M. June 19th, 2013 at 1:53 am
    The thought in the Bronx is this…….The difference between Pineda and Darvish will not be that noticeable on the field…..It’s in the accounting office is wher the huge gap is. 100 million more for Darvish. Now we wait for the next 3 years and see how close they really are talent wise
    ——–

    If that’s still the thinking, that’s delusional. Darvish is crushing right now.

  71. blake June 19th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    “The thought in the Bronx is this…….The difference between Pineda and Darvish will not be that noticeable on the field…..It’s in the accounting office is wher the huge gap is. 100 million more for Darvish. Now we wait for the next 3 years and see how close they really are talent wise”

    already though the Rangers have gotten 1.5 years of good performance from Darvish while the Yankees have gotten nothing from Pineda…..Pineda might come back and be great but Yu has a pretty big head start and considering how much money they have wasted on Youk, Wells, Ichiro etc then the money shouldn’t matter that much…..it’s hard to sell they didn’t want to pay a posting fee when they’ll go and waste so much money on nothing on the 2013 roster…..

    -

  72. blake June 19th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    It’s hard to understand why the Yanks will throw around money like it’s no object to throw together a team like this one but then they want to pinch pennies on long term solutions?

    If you want to try and get under 189 then ok I guess…..but why are they ok spending 230 million bucks on mediocrity?

  73. pkyankfan69 June 19th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    I’m sorry but I find it naive to just believe a player would take a few million less to play closer to home… It’s possible but if I was a betting man I would go with the higher bidding team every time. Had the Yankees shown interest in Chavez from the onset of the offseason, it’s very likely he would still be in pinstripes. Yes, even when Arod was healthy we needed other strong options at 3B.

    Here is a lame quote from Cashman about Chavez….

    “We know him very well and he had a hell of a year he’s put himself in a very strong position in a marketplace that’s thin at that position,” Cashman said. “That will run interference with our interest level, I would think.”

    It’s clear the Yankees never really even tried to sign Chavez ( let alone tried to maintain a talking relationship into the offseason) until they were caught with their pants down when the Arod news broke and it was too late.

  74. MTU June 19th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Blake-

    Not being all in on at least some of those guys is inexplicable. Especially the OF guys.

    Cespedes, Puig, Soler, Chapman, Darvish.

    SMH

    :(

  75. pkyankfan69 June 19th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    And to be clear, I’m wouldn’t call myself a Cashman hater. Ownership and the lack of a cohesive plan with the front office aside from saving money is the main reason for the Yankees decline.

  76. blake June 19th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    MTU,

    pennywise…..pound foolish.

  77. blake June 19th, 2013 at 8:22 am

    “Ownership and the lack of a cohesive plan with the front office aside from saving money is the main reason for the Yankees decline.”

    I totally agree…..I think Cashman’s hands have been tied to some degree. He was allowed to operate a certain way in the past and then was asked to shift gears after he already had significant money on the books. It’s one thing to try and reduce the payroll long term after some of the bad money is off…..it’s another to try and rush a system into place when the farm system isn’t really ready and you have 50+ million of almost dead money already spent each year.

  78. blake June 19th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    189 million dollars is still a lot of money….but when you consider how much of that is already spent and the production that spent money gives…..Cashman really doesn’t have much to work with to put a long term winner on the field. His only hope is the farm system and that it starts to produce some players that can offset the Arod’s and Tex’s……he needs cheap roster spots that produce like expensive roster spots

  79. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    ha. arod.

    what a joke.

  80. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 19th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Aroid has 5 years to go? Oy vey.

  81. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 19th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    Amazing how MLB has limited the NYY’s payroll, unless they want to pay up big time in taxes. It’s like China telling the USA, “no, you are spending too much on defense, you owe a world unity tax on every dollar above X”. Pathetic and anti-american.

  82. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    that arod is some competitor.

    just when lance armstrong thought he had clinched the ‘biggest sports cheat of all time’ crown all to himself,

    arod snatches the crown from him in just a matter of months.

    nobody beats arod at his own game. nobody….

  83. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    if a normal person starts flying a drug dealer around the country to bring them illegal prescription drugs, the feds go after them and try to throw them in prison.

  84. MTU June 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Blake-

    The Pitching staff is where they might be able to save the most money.

    Between the SP and the pen.

    And they could really have used one of their OF prospects to pan out

  85. Tackelberry June 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    “Aroid has 5 years to go? Oy vey.”

    4 after this year, and the last 3 years the salary ins’t that bad, 21, 20 and 20 mill.

  86. blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    I see the NBA playoffs live to play another day……

  87. blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    MTU,

    it stinks that they finally have a good pitching staff and have no offense……for years it was dynamite offense and weak pitching. I was used to that at least…..I’m not used to this 2 or 3 runs a game business.

  88. blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    “4 after this year, and the last 3 years the salary ins’t that bad, 21, 20 and 20 mill.”

    AAV is still 27.5 million a year and that’s what matters for the luxury tax….which seems to be what they care about. Either way….20+ million is a lot when you’re getting no return on it. The Yanks badly need Alex to produce at least something.

  89. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Good morning.

    San Antonio had the game in hand. Removing Duncan twice near the end resulted in two Bosch key rebounds and 5 points to tie the game.

    Also Manu Ginobilli was clearly hacked with only a few seconds left and foul wasn’t called.

    Play another day with SA winning.

  90. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 19th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    “AAV is still 27.5 million a year and that’s what matters for the luxury tax….which seems to be what they care about. Either way….20+ million is a lot when you’re getting no return on it. The Yanks badly need Alex to produce at least something.”

    I’d gladly trade Aroid for a long retired Mel Hall and a bag of XL speedos.

  91. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Tackelberry-

    Good morning. Also the cap for salaries is predicted to be closer to 177M to account for benefits for the 40 man roster of aroound 12M.

  92. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Blake-

    Any healthy right handed or any bats that might be available from teams that might feel they won’t be one of the 10 teams to make the playoffs? Maybe an impending FA?

  93. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    if a normal person starts flying a drug dealer around the country to bring them illegal prescription drugs, the feds go after them and try to throw them in prison.

    ———————–

    If a normal person pretends to be a doctor and administers illegal prescriptions the feds go after them and try to throw them in prison, too.

  94. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    yes if this detroit story in the DN turns out to be true, expect them to go after boesch.

    and the feds wont be offering cash to buy his testimony against others, they’ll be offering a deal for less prison time for him to testify against his buyers.

  95. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Ys – Did you read the New Times article pat posted yesterday? That’s where the DN story is coming from. Honestly hard to know what to believe as the sources aren’t exactly squeaky clean. Regardless, it sounds like Boesch will be protected by MLB based on previous reports.

  96. blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “Any healthy right handed or any bats that might be available from teams that might feel they won’t be one of the 10 teams to make the playoffs? Maybe an impending FA?”

    Aramis Ramirez, Crickets? I don’t know……

  97. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    anybody know if a player’s salary counts against the cap if he’s in prison?

  98. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Girardi on Tex:

    “There’s not really a hesitation in my mind that makes me believe that he won’t be back when the 15 days is up,” Joe Girardi said.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2WfV0PuQJ

  99. pat June 19th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    “…..they’ll be offering a deal for less prison time for him to testify against his buyers.”

    Usually more common to offer the buyers immunity to testify against the dealer.

  100. austinmac June 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    SWB is very, very short on outfielders. I wonder if they would consider moving Austin up since he has been hitting much betterof late. He has performed better than Heathcott or Flores thus far.

    I can’t believe we are waiting on Arod to save the season. Bad hip and PED charges pending don’t seem to make that a very good option.

    I would like the team to try to get Rios. The White Sox are going nowhere and he has been pretty good the last couple of years. I am aware of his inconsistency, but he seems like a decent option. I would not give prospects for him. I would trade Nova +/or Joba.

  101. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I mean.. Boesch isn’t believable, Alex isn’t believable, I don’t really find Fischer all that believable either. And MLB.. we’ll.. they aren’t a beacon of morality or anything.

    I just sorta wish the whole thing would sink to the bottom of the ocean and stay there like giant squid and the Titanic.

  102. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    the worse boesch and co. look, the easier it is to nail arod, imo.

    you make them look like the slime they are, then you prove the connection to the player.

    now the player is in the same slime pit as the sellers.

    why is this pillar of the community flying a dirtbag drug dealer around the country?

    the sleazier it gets, the worse for the players involved.

  103. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    I just sorta wish the arod would sink to the bottom of the ocean and stay there like giant squid and the Titanic.

  104. 86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    The MLB and its luxury tax/revenue sharing is just like the IRS…. an entity designed to punish success and subsidize failure.

  105. blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    “I just sorta wish the whole thing would sink to the bottom of the ocean and stay there like giant squid and the Titanic.”

    I’m just so sick of the whole thing……MLB should just drop it and move on and focus on the field.

  106. Against All Odds June 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Also Manu Ginobilli was clearly hacked with only a few seconds left and foul wasn’t called.

    ————————

    Maybe but Manu was awful last night. His turnovers came at critical moments in the game.

  107. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “Any healthy right handed or any bats that might be available from teams that might feel they won’t be one of the 10 teams to make the playoffs? Maybe an impending FA?”

    Aramis Ramirez, Crickets? I don’t know……

    —————-

    Manny is leaving Japan lol..

  108. Against All Odds June 19th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I’m just so sick of the whole thing……MLB should just drop it and move on and focus on the field.

    ————————
    Exactly focus on the game and the new stars because MLB needs it.

  109. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    I just sorta wish the arod would sink to the bottom of the ocean and stay there like giant squid and the Titanic.

    ——————

    We’d probably still need to pay him.. and you just know James Cameron would get involved..

  110. 86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    I’d gladly trade Aroid for a long retired Mel Hall and a bag of XL speedos.

    *******************************************************************

    I believe there is an international treay banning the manufacture and/or sale of XL Speedos.

    there sure should be

  111. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    no, the irs exsists to procure money so the military contractors and the elected officials who make tons of money off them can finance permanent war.

    and they’re doing a helluva good job of it.

  112. blake June 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    The NBA is just hard to watch IMO…..the level of play even in the finals is pretty bad. I watched a few minutes last night and it’s just brick city…..nobody can shoot. Basketball is like the only sport where IMO teams from 20 years ago would just house the current teams. Maybe they are better athletes now…..but as basketball players the sports has devolved considerably I think. JMO

  113. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Girardi on Tex:

    “There’s not really a hesitation in my mind that makes me believe that he won’t be back when the 15 days is up,” Joe Girardi said.

    ——————

    More crazy talk…

  114. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    selena roberts was right.

  115. 86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Players of 20 years ago would beat players of today if they had the officiating of 20 years ago.

    The skill level is down from the 70′s in particular because players come to th eNBA so young and so lacking in fundamentals. Patrick Ewing and Hakeem Olajuwon shoot the ball better than most small forwards today.

  116. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Austinmac-

    Alex Rios might be a good option at 13M this year and next. Might have to take Jeff Keppinger to make that happen?

    CWS Cot’s contracts:

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tK7uKP_MP8Unu0Mx46heFcg&output=html

  117. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    same can be said for mlb

  118. ac1 June 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    And to be clear, I’m wouldn’t call myself a Cashman hater. Ownership and the lack of a cohesive plan with the front office aside from saving money is the main reason for the Yankees decline.
    ___

    This is well stated.
    The issue is there is no clear plan.
    If you want to save money, save money.
    Don’t go buy Wells from Anaheim.
    Don’t pay Ichi 13 M.

  119. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    same can be said for mlb

    ———-

    Lol, c’mon dude.. there’s no party that has any room to be sanctimonious when it comes to PEDs.

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    “I’d gladly trade Aroid for a long retired Mel Hall and a bag of XL speedos.”

    I’d do it for the bag of XL speedos and then give them to you gratis!

    I don’t particularly care what happens with Bosch or what they do with him. He’s ruined anyway.

    I just NEVER EVER EVER want to see Arod play another game for the Yankees. He has been a source of embarrassment on and off the field ever since he came here.

    Sure, playing for the Yankees brings an enormous amount of pressure with it, especially if you’re a big name who comes with big bucks. I’m sure that Arod felt that pressure every time he didn’t produce for the Yankees. However, he admitted to juicing before he even came to the Yankees.

    When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure,” the Bombers third baseman said in the riveting TV interview. “I felt like I had all the weight of the world on top of me and I needed to perform, and perform at a high level every day.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2WfYmHCg1

    Look, I don’t want him or any other player to end up in jail. I just want the game cleaned up.

    Just say no to Arod.

  121. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Trader – Next year is an option year for Rios, right? I think I talked about this with Bret. Really depends on what you have to give.

  122. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    @BattingStanceG

    Last time Dodgers played in Yankee Stadium the actual Tommy John started.

  123. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    ” Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    same can be said for mlb

    ———-

    Lol, c’mon dude.. there’s no party that has any room to be sanctimonious when it comes to PEDs.”
    ———————————–
    i was referring to 86′s comment that nba players of 20 years ago had better skills

  124. ac1 June 19th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Alex Rios?

    So we want the Terrible Toronto Twosome of Rios and Wells?

  125. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    trisha – You following the Zimmerman trial? I think it will be my new obsession now that Jodi is locked up.

  126. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Shame-

    There is no hesitation in my mind either, that Tex won’t be back after the current stint on the DL!

    However, continuing to bat lefty this season, working off the tee, with the injured right wrist tendon sheath, might very well cause him to have a recurrence of inflammation, necessitating another cortisone shot. Plus he throws righthanded.

    Some people feel more than three cortisone shots within a short period of time[a few months], can furhter damage tendons and ligaments.

    It’s good to have a positive outlook, but Tex who believes his worth is tied to 30 homers ad 100 RBI’s and not to BA, might be in for more trouble.

  127. Giuseppe Franco June 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    And to be clear, I’m wouldn’t call myself a Cashman hater. Ownership and the lack of a cohesive plan with the front office aside from saving money is the main reason for the Yankees decline.

    ———-

    Ditto. This front office has been playing way too much checkers and not nearly enough chess.

  128. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Bosch isn’t believable why?

    So are you saying that any crook that gets caught and is offered some kind of immunity has an incentive to lie? I would say they have an incentive to tell the truth. Perjury isn’t pretty, and neither is defamation of character, both of which would follow on the heels of someone who lied under oath despite being offered immunity.

    I’m not thinking Bosch is going to do anything but sing like a canary.

    Any player named by Bosch who has not already filed a defamation of character suit likely has good reason for not filing a suit, IMO.

  129. Against All Odds June 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 9:39 am
    Players of 20 years ago would beat players of today if they had the officiating of 20 years ago.

    The skill level is down from the 70?s in particular because players come to th eNBA so young and so lacking in fundamentals. Patrick Ewing and Hakeem Olajuwon shoot the ball better than most small forwards today.

    ———————-

    Not so sure about that.

    There is a lack of fundamentals though.

  130. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    i was referring to 86?s comment that nba players of 20 years ago had better skills

    —————–

    Oh I thought you were referring to your own comment that ‘selena was right’. My bad! The skills/talent debates are always interesting but the games have changed a lot.

  131. Giuseppe Franco June 19th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    I don’t want any part of Alex Rios.

    Sooner or later, this front office has to realize the quick fixes aren’t enough to put this team in a position to win long term.

  132. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Shame-

    By this spread sheet, I’m seeing that Rios has 13M this year and next, with a 15M option for 2015 wiith a 1M buyout.

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tK7uKP_MP8Unu0Mx46heFcg&output=html

  133. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Trader – The longer this goes on the more fearful I become that he’ll end up getting surgery in like November and will be a question mark for 2014 as well. That is probably the worst case scenario, no?

  134. 86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    I’ve always liked Rios as a player and his contract is reasonable. Putting him in RF full-time with Wells/Ichiro sharing LF makes this team better short term.

    Problem is once Granderson is healthy (which should be by the end of the month) adding Rios is just going to create quite the traffic jam out there.

    That’s what has made his season so difficult for Cashman et al. you have to use a band aid approach when you already have tens of millions of dollars invested in reinforcements expected back during the season.

    That said, Youkilis was a bad sign from day one. Expensive and risky should not be done with fading players it should be done with high end potential reward in mind. Youkilis was never going to be more than a decent one season fill-in.

  135. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    “trisha – You following the Zimmerman trial? I think it will be my new obsession now that Jodi is locked up.”

    Shame, Jodi’s trial took so much out of me psychically that I decided to swear off the Zimmerman case because I figured that one would put me under! Zimmerman is going to be so tricky because of all of the he said he said in that one. At least with Jodi – or Ho-di as people were calling her – we knew she did it!

    Did you hear that the prosecutor’s office is going to retry the penalty phase? Good luck on that one. I’ve heard that there are people who actually lie to get on death penalty juries because they are vehemently opposed to it. Anyway, they have to attempt to find 12 people in Arizona who aren’t terribly familiar with the trial or who don’t have an opinion about what should happen to Ho-di. I’ll pick that trial up when it happens again. But for now I think I’ll just stick to my own cases. :)

  136. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    I know that we know Zimmerman did it too – I didn’t phrase that properly.

  137. Kelvin June 19th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Blake, it was one of the greatest games I’ve witnessed. Spurs only needed to make the free throws and they would’ve won the championship. It’s comparable to Texas/St Louis World series, Strikes away from winning the ball game.

    What a great performance by LeBron too, as soon as he lost his headband he just went off.

  138. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Shame-

    I believe the recovery time after that surgery is 3-4 months. Jose Bautista went the rest and rehab route, came back and was soon back on the DL, having surgery at the end of August, after consulting with Sam Fuld of the Rays, who also injured the bottom wrist on the bat and had no success either with rehab.

  139. CountryClub June 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Erik Boland ?@eboland11 1m The Game 1 lineup: Gardner 8 nix 6 Cano 4 wells 7 Neal dh ichiro 9 Adams 5 Overbay 3 Stewart 2 Kuroda 1

  140. austinmac June 19th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    YT,

    I didn’t realize Rios had a guaranteed contract next year. That probably rules him out. Plus, we have Gardner, Ichiro and Wells signed for next year. Who could ask for anything more?

  141. pat June 19th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    “Perjury isn’t pretty, and neither is defamation of character, both of which would follow on the heels of someone who lied under oath despite being offered immunity.”

    Lying to MLB isn’t perjury and MLB has indemnified him against defamation lawsuits so Bosch has nothing to lose unless law enforcement gets involved and they don’t seem interested so far.

  142. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Trader – If he’s coming of any type of wrist surgery this off season I’m going to be kinda worried about him next year. I really hope he doesn’t need it but it might be the better of two evils there.

    trisha – I’ve been following the jury vetting process.. one guy said he donated to Zimmerman’s defense lol. I think they have a fair bit of audio from Trayvon’s cell phone. Like you said, it’s pretty clear he’ll be convicted I just wonder what the penalty will be. Personally I hope he never sees a day as a free man again, however they go about it.

  143. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    I’ve always liked Rios as a player and his contract is reasonable.

    —————-

    If they think the contract is reasonable they should just sign Choo in the off season.

  144. J. Alfred Prufrock June 19th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    I don’t want Rios. Sick and tired of retreads and old guys.

    I want to see Zoilo get a real chance to stick in RF. He’s got issues as a defender, but I’m starting to think, so what. It’s not like they have demonstrated any real concern for defense on the corners and he’s got more range than Bosch and he also has a good arm. Besides, his power potential is very real, and he can mitigate bad defense with one swing. Not like RF hasn’t been a spot for iffy OF defenders any way.

    What’s more, he earned the call up by mashing at AAA, and last year he did hit 21 dingers. I don’t want to see him sent down after one game. Good move to bring him up. Now keep him, be patient with him, and play him!

  145. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    “MLB should just drop it and move on and focus on the field.”

    blake, I think the one thing we all have to realize is that MLB will no longer be able to drop PEDs-related things that become public. In the least they’ll have to investigate them.

    Since cousin weak eyes testified in front of congress, MLB’s dirty laundry has become the property, if you will, of congress. It’s called the Antitrust Exemption, and MLB has it in spades.

  146. Ys Guy June 19th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    florida law enforcement didnt want to get involved (surpisingly tons of rich atheletes live there)

    but this detroit story gives the feds a golden invitation to get involved, as well as michigan and detroit law enforcement.

  147. J. Alfred Prufrock June 19th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    ’81….not a good memory. We blew that series. I was at the home games. Worse than ’04.

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 19th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    “but this detroit story gives the feds a golden invitation to get involved, as well as michigan and detroit law enforcement.”

    Absolutely. And you know the feds are circling on this one! Bosch, unless he is totally stupid, will be smart (self-interested) enough to come totally clean.

  149. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Here’s an interesting article fro Replacement Level Yankees: With Teixeira and Youkilis Out Again, Yankees Might Need Cashman To Produce

    http://www.chatsports.com/new-.....-2-8044374

  150. 86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    You think they can get Shoo for one year, $ 12.5 M ? Not likely.

    It was a great basketball game last night. Two missed FT and two failures to grab a rebound cost the Spurs.

  151. 86w183 June 19th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    JAP —

    I was at the first two games on the ’81 World Series. Have always believed they would have won the whole thing had I been at every game!!!

  152. Shame Spencer June 19th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    We’re arguing over here now! Come join the party!! :arrow:

  153. Yankee Trader June 19th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    New Post——->

    86-

    It really cost the Spurs, having Duncan on the bench both the times the Heat grabbed those rebounds and made up the 5 point difference.

  154. austinmac June 19th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    The City of San Jose is directly challenging baseball’s anti-trust exemption. They argue, of course, MLB is clearly interstate trade and none of the other major sports have the exemption, so why should baseball? Frankly, I don’t know why they should either.

    I don’t know is they have standing to sue, but it will be interesting.

    Rios is 32 and has performed well the last year and one-half. I would give up youth for him, but would give up excess. I will give up no youth without getting a young player in return. Nova, I would give.

    I do want to see Almonte get a chance. His last two offensive years have been pretty good. Platoon him with Wells at the very least.

  155. gallagwar June 19th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    “if things goes right for mattingly, he could be the manager of the new York Yankees next season.”

    This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

  156. gallagwar June 19th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    I can’t believe there are people out there who think the Yanks would be better off with Mattingly rather than Girardi. Mattingly has basically been a train wreck in LA. He’s done less with more than Girardi the last two years.

    I love Donnie as much as any Yankee fan. I STILL have the poster that hung on the wall in my bedroom from my Little League days. But he’s not a good manager. His teams underachieve every year, his in-game moves are reminiscent of Joe Torre (not a compliment), and it looks like he’s lost the locker room. I would hate for him to come to New York and tarnish his legacy by being a terrible manager. The Yankees really dodged a bullet by not hiring him. He was the 3rd best candidate.

    Girardi might actually be the most underrated manager in baseball based on some of the stuff I’ve read from “Yankee fans”.

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