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Pregame notes: “It’s not how you draw it up”

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Mark Teixeira

Well, so much for the return of Don Mattingly to the Bronx.

Much of the hype earlier today was focused on a Yankee legend coming home in a different uniform, but a flurry of moves and announcements from the Yankees has deflected the attention back to a story that we’ve gone over many times already this season – the continuing trend of Yankee stars dropping like flies.

“It’s not how you draw it up,” general manager Brian Cashman said. “No doubt about that.”

The first major announcement when I got to the ballpark today was that Mark Teixeira is heading back to the 15-day disabled list with inflammation in the right wrist that caused him to miss the first two months of the season.

“We think it’s at least going to be a week, so our thought process is, ‘Let’s just make sure that we’re not short-handed for a week,’ ” manager Joe Girardi said. “If he’s healthy after a week, he can get a few at-bats in rehab, and then we’ll have him back.”

While the Yankees sound optimistic that this won’t be another extended absence for Tex, Cashman emerged shortly after to inform that media that Kevin Youkilis is in even worse shape. They have discovered a herniated disc in his balky back, which will require surgery. Youk will go under the knife on Thursday, and is expected to miss at least 10-12 weeks.

“Kevin is a heckuva player, and he hasn’t had the chance to show that because of the back,” Cashman said.

Kevin Youkilis• With Tex being officially placed on the DL, Zoilo Almonte has been called up to take his place on the 25-man roster. “He’s a switch-hitter and an outfielder,” Girardi said. “We can give him a start here; we can use him as a pinch-hitter off the bench. There are some different things that he can do.”

• Girardi was pressed about whether Teixeira returned too quickly from his original injury, but he sounded convinced that his first baseman was healthy when he first rejoined the club. (As we found out yesterday, Kevin Long wasn’t quite as confident.) “He was healthy when he came back,” Girardi said. “It could have been just the swings, the games that got to him a little bit. It was inflammation, so inflammation is going to cause some sort of a weakness as time goes on. The more inflamed it goes, the harder it’s going to be. But when he came back, he didn’t have that.”

• Girardi also reiterated that he expects Tex back soon after his 15-day DL stint is over. “I do,” he said. “There’s not really hesitation in my mind that makes me think he won’t be back when the 15 days is up.”

• As for Youkilis, Cashman said that he’ll have a chance to get back to the Yankees sometime late in the season. With the surgery set for Thursday, the 10-12 week timetable could put him back on the field in early September, but he’ll obviously need to play some minor league rehab games before getting back to the big leagues. And Cashman also stressed that 10-12 is the minimum recovery time, so this certainly jeopardizes Youkilis’ season.

• For the time being, Cashman mentioned David Adams as the replacement for Youk, but he also said that he expects Alex Rodriguez to contribute at some point. A-Rod stepped into the batter’s box down in Tampa today, but didn’t actually take any cuts. “He just tracked pitches today,” Girardi said. “I’m sure each day he’ll do a little bit more.”

• In the final roster move of the day (or so we think), the Yankees brought Adam Warren back up and designated Chris Bootcheck for assignment

• Oh, by the way. The tarp is on the field and it’s pouring an hour and a half before first pitch. So there’s that.

Photos from Associated Press

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76 Responses to “Pregame notes: “It’s not how you draw it up””

  1. Warning Track Power June 18th, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
    Carter in Houston. Is he a 1b?
    —————————————————
    Yes & not very good.
    A’s gave up on him because he was becoming the typical AAAA player.

  2. Mike in Harrisburg June 18th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Caption that first pic.

    “Man, shoulda yapped more about Juice Press today. Dangit”

  3. mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    “We think it’s at least going to be a week, so our thought process is, ‘Let’s just make sure that we’re not short-handed for a week,’ ” manager Joe Girardi said. “If he’s healthy after a week, he can get a few at-bats in rehab, and then we’ll have him back.”
    =======================
    Be prepared for the re-run.

  4. mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Yes & not very good.
    A’s gave up on him because he was becoming the typical AAAA player.
    ================
    But Mike likes him.
    Does he research anything?

  5. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    This is what the Yankees challenge is tonight. Ryu pitched his 1st CG a two hitter at the end of May vs the Angels.

    Dodgers manager Don Mattingly enjoyed watching Ryu.

    “It’s more of an artist for me, being able to throw both sides of the plate and changing speeds. It’s the art of pitching,” he said, describing Ryu as deceptive.

    “He’s a guy whose change-up and off-speed is so good. Now all of a sudden he’s throwing more fastballs,” Mattingly said, noting Ryu’s pitches clocked 93 mph late in the game.

    Ryu said, “When the fastball works, everything becomes more effective.”

    The rookie is unusual in that he doesn’t throw between starts, something the Dodgers agreed to after signing him to a $36 million, six-year deal that made Ryu the first player ever to go directly , the Korean league to the major leagues.

  6. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Patrick

    Kuroda has a full NTC

    Good post.

    Ah thank you, did not know that.

  7. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    “I would trade any 3-4 prospects in the Yanks system right now for Giancarlo Stanton.”

    I don’t think they have what it takes right now.

  8. Warning Track Power June 18th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    A-Rod stepped into the batter’s box down in Tampa today, but didn’t actually take any cuts. “He just tracked pitches today,” Girardi said. “I’m sure each day he’ll do a little bit more.”
    —————————————————————————————————————
    This is very good news. Reminds me of very early in ST when the regular stand in
    the box and track pitches. 30 days from now ARod could be back in pinstripes

  9. Mike in Harrisburg June 18th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Honestly, is it pure delusion at this point or are they so far through the looking glass they can’t help but feed the party line or whatever?

  10. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    NTC can be negotiated away.

  11. Warning Track Power June 18th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Mike in Harrisburg June 18th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
    Caption that first pic.
    ———————————————————————————
    My wrist is inflamed. Any chance Long can keep a secret?

  12. mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Downpour at the Stadium.
    Can’t believe how disruptive this schedule has been.
    From 10 pm games to rain delays to 18 inning games to days off like yesterday.
    Give me 2 solid weeks of games without a break at normal times…then the ASB.
    Should be what the Dr ordered.

  13. Against All Odds June 18th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Caption that first pic.
    —————————–

    “Wrists hurting again I know those clowns on Lohud will be happy about that. “

  14. RayVT June 18th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Maybe the Yanks can trade for Montero. I bet he is available! Maybe Ackley too.

  15. mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    He must say these things to attract callers.
    “Mattingly is more popular than Jeter.”

  16. Warning Track Power June 18th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
    Downpour at the Stadium.
    ——————————————————————-
    Uncool. Are you saying expect a weather delay?

  17. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Trade Tex and Youk and Wells plus stuff for Montero.

  18. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Speaking of J.R. Murphy I think next year we will see a competition between Murphy, Cervelli and Romine for the starting catcher job. I know Romine has looked lost at the plate but he’s still got potential. And it would be nice to see if Cervelli’s hot streak early in the year was a fluke or not (it was a fluke).

    McCann has been on my list of players that I want to see in pinstripes for awhile, but the Yankee catching situation is actually not that bad going forward. Especially with Sanchez waiting in the wings..

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    RayVT – great idea! :) has to rehab the knee first though

  20. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Ok how about this .. if the Mariners agreed to do a trade-back would you agree to it? So in other words, the Yankees get Noesi and Montero, the Mariners get Campos and Pineda.

  21. mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Uncool. Are you saying expect a weather delay?
    ================
    now that you mention it…

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Can’t see through the windshield down here in central jersey

  23. Niblick June 18th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    The whole organization is delusional.

  24. arsenelupin3 June 18th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    9pm start or rainout. In 420c tonight. Can’t wait to catch a Vernon pop foul.

  25. Against All Odds June 18th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
    “Mike saying Pineda was a long term move.”

    Given how important he thinks a relieva is, I’m surprised that he doesn’t want Pineda to be a closa.

    ———————-

    lol

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    PAtrick – Of course! :)

  27. bruceb June 18th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    I’m sorry but I don’t believe a word I hear from Cashman, Girardi and Long. It’s all “spin” because neither they – nor us – can give up on the season just yet.

    What are the odds that when ARod and Jeter return after the All Star Break, one or both ends up back on the DL shortly afterwards? Any player who misses a full pre-season is a major risk.

  28. Against All Odds June 18th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    mick June 18th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
    It does because they were set on offering a bunch of 1 yr deals minus Ichiro’s.
    ========
    please explain.

    —————–

    A number of their moves revolve around 189 or cutting corners where they can to save money. This yr they went heavy on a bunch of 1yr deals.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    ATM noesi’s the healthiest of the four

  30. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    ATM noesi’s the healthiest of the four

    Campos is pitching, he’s pretty healthy. I think this is a tough one to judge because Pineda and Montero might both be busts, but it’s still too early to say. I think of the two Montero has a better chance at panning out due to the nature of Pineda’s injury. So the trade-back would be 2 question marks, Campos who is finally healthy and still a legit prospect, and a AAAA pitcher in Noesi. Tough call..

  31. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    A number of their moves revolve around 189 or cutting corners where they can to save money. This yr they went heavy on a bunch of 1yr deals.
    ================================
    I understand this. Am asking how a 1 yr 12m deal affects next year.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    According to cash when Pineda’s ready if he doesnt join Yanks he goes to Swb

  33. tbone1570 June 18th, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    ……. but the Yankee catching situation is actually not that bad going forward. Especially with Sanchez waiting in the wings..

    ==================================

    Patrick,

    Is it really that looking to the future? I say this because we’ve all heard how many good catchers we had stockpiled, BUT.. so far fron this stockpile all we’ve seen Montero not hit or catch in the majors, Romine looks terrible with the bat, and Cervelli’s had some success but you even think that’s a fluke. I’m beginning to worry that tyhe stockpile is all hype and no substance.

  34. Niblick June 18th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Campos is not doing well at Charleston. The trade was a wash: nothing for nothing.

  35. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    “According to cash when Pineda’s ready if he doesnt join Yanks he goes to Swb”

    They would be nuts not to get his FA year back.

  36. champ809 June 18th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    repost

    champ809 June 18th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
    Just an observation…

    I think that the Culver pick is going to look alot different in 2 years…

    There is no question that his glove is legit and his D is GG caliber.

    He’s also a great baserunner with a very high game IQ.

    I see him making big strides with the bat now that he’s a RH only hitter. He’s on pace for 12-15 HRs/ 25 2Bs and 60+ walks his 1st year facing RHP from the right side. If he ends the season with the BAA at .250 give or take then I think he did a helluva job and would be poised to improve on those #’s next season in Tampa.

    If he can become a .275-.290/ 15-18 HR/ 30+ 2B/ 25-30 steals #2 hole hitter who plays a GG level SS then he’s homerun at the spot he got drafted at. If he’s that player and ready for 2015 then alot of “experts” will be eating crow.

  37. blake June 18th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    @McCulloughSL: Teixeira will remain in New York during injury, as he doesn’t want to be away from Long for too, ahem, long. Says Long knows his swing best.

  38. blake June 18th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    “I think that the Culver pick is going to look alot different in 2 years…”

    Certainly hope so….he does look a lot better from the right side

  39. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Joe: Tex was healthy when he came back.

  40. tbone1570 June 18th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Can’t see through the windshield down here in central jersey

    ====================

    JAP, hope you’re not driving and blogging in this weather (or any other time). :)

  41. Niblick June 18th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Tbone – the entire farm system is all hype and no substance. With the possible exception of Nuno, there isn’t a major leaguer anywhere.

  42. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Campos is not doing well at Charleston. The trade was a wash: nothing for nothing.

    He’s doing fine. They are limiting him to 3-4 innings per start as he comes back from TJ. Can’t really look at the numbers and say he’s been bad. Also way way way too early to say Montero or Pineda is nothing.

  43. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    “Joe: Tex was healthy when he came back.”

    Why do they even say these things? MRIs don’t offer an incontrovertible picture of health or lack thereof. They offer information for a doctor to make an educated guesses. Obviously, he wasn’t 100% healthy. That’s not necessarily anyone’s fault, but to claim otherwise, makes someone look slippery.

  44. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    He is just saying this to try to get Long off the hook.

  45. Warning Track Power June 18th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    Erik Boland ? @eboland11
    65% percent chance of rain until 9 pm when it drops to 40%. Then 45% at 10 pm and drops to 5% at 11.
    ————————————————-
    According to this first pitch should be at 11 pm EST

  46. tbone1570 June 18th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    Niblick June 18th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Tbone – the entire farm system is all hype and no substance. With the possible exception of Nuno, there isn’t a major leaguer anywhere.

    ============================

    I still hold out hope for some of the young OF’s and some of the draft picks from the last two draft classes. I hope Heathcott dosn’t put himself out of baseball from running into the wall too many times.

  47. blake June 18th, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    If I was K long I wouldn’t claim Tex’s swing

  48. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    Patrick,

    Is it really that looking to the future? I say this because we’ve all heard how many good catchers we had stockpiled, BUT.. so far fron this stockpile all we’ve seen Montero not hit or catch in the majors, Romine looks terrible with the bat, and Cervelli’s had some success but you even think that’s a fluke. I’m beginning to worry that tyhe stockpile is all hype and no substance.

    People have been hyping the catching for awhile, this is true, but we haven’t seen the full results yet. Nobody with an objective bone in their body thought Montero would stick as a full time catcher. So when hyping the catchers it was mostly contained to Romine, Murphy, Sanchez. We haven’t seen Murphy or Sanchez and Romine is still fairly young. Cervelli has always been billed as a backup catcher – good defense, decent average, zero power.

    I still think there’s a good chance Montero pans out to be an all-star at the plate. Romine’s time is running out but he could end up being a decent backup. Murphy too early to say and Sanchez is still doing pretty well in the minors. Dude is 20 hitting .278 .343 .489 in A+ .. pretty good

  49. tbone1570 June 18th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    “Joe: Tex was healthy when he came back.”

    ========================

    Remember, medicine is an inexact science, unless your name is Dr Girardi! :)

  50. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    If he was healthy, what are they doing differently now, to keep him healthy?

    Why won’t this happen again?

    I guess they have enough time for surgery and a comeback later this year?

  51. Against All Odds June 18th, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Warning Track Power June 18th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
    Erik Boland ? @eboland11
    65% percent chance of rain until 9 pm when it drops to 40%. Then 45% at 10 pm and drops to 5% at 11.
    ————————————————-
    According to this first pitch should be at 11 pm EST

    ————————————

    We got all night

    We got all night

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    Patrick he’s 23 so ll take my chances hell bounce back we have fast track arms InRamirez n DePaula need young Rhb ready to pull trigger

  53. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Patrick he’s 23 so ll take my chances hell bounce back we have fast track arms InRamirez n DePaula need young Rhb ready to pull trigger

    Ok fair enough. I think Montero will bounce back as well, and I think his power to right would play well in Yankee stadium.

    I don’t know though .. Campos could very well turn out to be the most valuable part of that trade. Still only 20 years old

  54. champ809 June 18th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    I must say I’m excited about the recent promotions JR Murph, JRam and Turley to Scranton and De Paula to Tampa….I think Sanchez and Refsnyder may be the next promotions announced with Arcia and Gumbs/Feliz getting expanded playing time in Tampa.

    They have quite a few guys coming from extended spring training that are going to need spots soon.

  55. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Oh my mistake, I said earlier Campos was coming back from TJ and that’s just wrong. He had a bone bruise or fracture in his elbow. My mistake ..

  56. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    I wouldn’t promote Sanchez yet, he’s still only 20. Maybe give him a late season promotion to AA, then let him spend most or all of 2014 there. Mid-2015 call-up IMO

  57. pkyankfan69 June 18th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    For Giiiiancarlo would you trade

    Sanchez – Williams – Austin – Ramirez – DePaula

    Still a yes, right?

  58. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I would like to substitute Pineda for Sanchez or DePaula.

  59. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    That would be pretty rough giving up those 5 guys for Stanton. Stanton is damn good and all but still, that would hurt.

  60. comnsnse June 18th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Chad, please ask Joseph or Joey the obvious question.

    Did Long discuss his reservations about Tex with you?

    And Joey being the honest, decent Italian boy from Chicago will say…………….?

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    Patrick got a slew of young Arms I want that 2011 September hitter back! :)

    Tbone my wife has th wheel lol

    I M interested in seein campos pitch and make his way through system. Hey we Trenton folk will also get Bryan Mitchell at some point

  62. pkyankfan69 June 18th, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    It would be brutal to give up that haul for Stanton… I think something like that is what it takes given how many teams would be very interested… Maybe the Yanks also get a decent MLB role player or something added to what they are receiving. Considering how old and declining the current MLB roster is I’m not so sure I would make the deal, there are too many holes moving forward.

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    I cOncur with Tom feel badly for Youkilis of course it’s a bad signing but a career is likely at an end later

  64. Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    “That would be pretty rough giving up those 5 guys for Stanton. Stanton is damn good and all but still, that would hurt.”

    It would be, and if I thought they’d have the patience to develop them, it would be harder to make the trade.

  65. Patrick June 18th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    pk,

    I agree, to get Stanton would take something like that. Even then I don’t know if the Mariners would agree to that deal because they can probably get a deal from someone else with 2-3 top prospects that are closer to the majors.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Yanks prOmoted the wrOng Tampa catcher l Francisco arcia

  67. comnsnse June 18th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Let’s reacquire Ramiro Pena, it’s either that or bring Culver up!

    With our offense Ramiro might be an improvement!

  68. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Seems like most everything Cashman does or says nowadays just annoys the hell out of me.

    It never used to be like that with him. He was a humble and likable guy throughout most of his tenure as the GM but his demeanor has really changed the last few years.

    Maybe he’s grown tired of this gig and needs to move on.

    I’ll help him pack.

  69. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    The torture continues.
    Please end this nonsense tomorrow and play a normal game.

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Girardi talking about the be fits of inflammation with Suzie

  71. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    i guess yall know this game was called…

  72. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Rich in NJ June 18th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    It would be, and if I thought they’d have the patience to develop them, it would be harder to make the trade.

    ——-

    That’s a fair point that adds another wrinkle to your thought process.

    Talented youngsters are much harder to deal when you believe they have a real shot to develop in pinstripes.

    This front office doesn’t seem willing to exhibit that kind of patience.

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock June 18th, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    We’re canceled!

  74. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    This front office doesn’t seem willing to exhibit that kind of patience.
    ==========
    Have they ever.
    Now they have to.
    They will.

  75. mick June 18th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    We’re canceled!
    ——–
    duh.

  76. tomingeorgia June 18th, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Real noisy storm with tornadoes passing through here right now. Satellite’s down, of course, and we’ll be headed to the basement in a few minutes. Good luck to the folks in Saluda County, SC. They’re going to get it.

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