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Almonte gets a start

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 21, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Looks like Reid Brignac has been DFA and replaced by Alberto Gonzalez.

Brett Gardner CF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Travis Hafner DH
Lyle Overbay 1B
Zoilo Almonte LF
Jayson Nix SS
David Adams 3B
Austin Romine C

RHP David Phelps

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99 Responses to “Almonte gets a start”

  1. Chip June 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Hopefully Brignac can clear waivers and go to AAA – he’s got a solid glove and plenty of talent – just isn’t a good hitter right now.

    What this also means is that against LHP we’ll likely see Nix at 1b

  2. Niblick June 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Lots of runs today!

  3. ac1 June 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    WHOA!
    Finally got the message with Wells?

  4. Chip June 21st, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Interesting squish of the 5 lefties together at the top – guess Girardi is done with the lefty righty thing and just trying to get his best hitters together.

  5. Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Cashman was asked when Arod will be back. He said you mean health wise and not if he is suspended. So he even admits that there is a good chance it happens.

  6. Shame Spencer June 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Chip – Totally fair points in the last thread.

    Glad to see Sanchez might be moved up. I really want to see what he and JR can do.

  7. MTU June 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    As soon as Mustelier is healthy give him a shot.

    Swap him and Adams out unless Adams starts hitting.

  8. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    wells is just being given a day off. He is too tired from hitting nothing but air.

  9. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Jagielo on the dl. This must be a tradition. First round pick starts his career on the DL.

  10. Chip June 21st, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    White Sox are listening to offers on Alex Rios – I would trade for him in a hot minute.

  11. Nick in SF June 21st, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Sorry for Brignac but happy for us. I commented last night that it hurt to look at him knowing that he must know that he’s flopping and will be sent away as soon as they can replace him. I had no inkling that the move would come this soon. Welcome back AG.

  12. bruceb June 21st, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Hard to believe, I know, but our lineup looks worse and worse with each passing day.

    1-3 Pretty good
    4-5 Big Hairy Monsters who have seen better days
    6-9 Minor Leaguers out of their depth (Nix is OK as a backup player)

  13. Chip June 21st, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    I think Austin Romine is the next one to be sent out.

    Kelly Shoppach will clear release waivers this weekend, he’s not an every day guy, but he is a pretty decent hitter against LHP.

    They can send Romine to AAA and let him and Murphy rotate between C and DH with Bobby Wilson as the BUC.

    Give Mustellier and Boesch a few ABs when they come off the DL and then call both of them up.

    It will create 40 man roster headaches – but I think these are moves that have to be made.

  14. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 21st, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Almonte!!!!!!!

  15. Nick in SF June 21st, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Did you note that 10-0 scoreline in the Spain v. Tahiti match yesterday, bruceb?

    Don’t see that too often. I was scared off by the -7.5 goals line. Silly me.

  16. Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    The way it should be….
    ————————

    @LoHudYankees

    Girardi said Nix is essentially the everyday SS and Adams the everyday 3B now. Gonzalez viewed as a true backup

  17. Chip June 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    The way it should be….
    ————————

    @LoHudYankees

    Girardi said Nix is essentially the everyday SS and Adams the everyday 3B now. Gonzalez viewed as a true backup
    ————–

    Now it’s on David Adams to hit like he belongs.

  18. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    230 million payroll for this?

    The Steins should buy the Oakland A’s and get all of their development people, Beane and let them run the operations. Talk about super competent. Of course the Steins should butt out.

  19. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Adams everyday 3b? I believe only if he is playing at least 5 days a week. Once he make an error, to the bench he goes. The only other good note would have been almonte will be playing everyday too.

  20. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 21st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    It’s starting to feel like 1990 all over again.

    Danny the bull Tartabull needs to suit up and the picture will be complete.

  21. Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Now it’s on David Adams to hit like he belongs.
    —————

    Hopefully he can sop pressing and just relax. He is getting a gigantic opportunity for not only this year but also next year. As Girardi would say now he just has to hit the baseball.

  22. austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    The Yankees could certainly tell Cano they will want him back and discuss money before trading him. If other teams learned of it, they may be hesitant to make similar trades with the Yankees in the future. The bigger risk is he would like the new place, they would flatter and cajole him, the new team would truly be competitive and he would sign there.

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock June 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Very pleased to see Adams and Zoilo in there.

  24. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    almonte should play rf and ichiro lf.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock June 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Hopefully he can sop pressing and just relax. He is getting a gigantic opportunity for not only this year but also next year. As Girardi would say now he just has to hit the baseball.
    ///

    Sweet words from Girardi on this. Let’s see them actually stick with him in a substantial way.

  26. Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Almonte just has to be decent and figure out a way to get on base. If he can do that he will play almost everyday against righties. I think Girardi/Casman have finally realized that you can’t wait around forever for Wells against righties.

  27. blake June 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    The Mask of Zoilo! Go Zoological!

  28. J. Alfred Prufrock June 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    almonte should play rf and ichiro lf.
    ///

    preach, brother! Amen!

    He can get through games uneventfully, but I do fear him in that spacious left. Not because he doesn’t have the athleticism to cover, but because he blows up without warning, suddenly getting the worst read ever. It kinda comes out of nowhere with him.

    Let us pray.

  29. blake June 21st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    “Gentleman, in any business when the asset does not produce the desired result for ownership the axe falls on the CEO.”

    the playoffs every year and the most valuable franchise in american sports isn’t the desired result for ownership?

  30. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Almonte should be given a chance against lefty too, he is a switch hitter. There will be a number crunch in the 40 man roster in the offseason so better find out who can be an everyday player and it starts now. Slade should be up by july to find out. So does betances and a well conditioned monty if gets to that point. I would even try all the SS in the minors like Ibarra and Angelini at some point.

  31. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    Francesa just asked Cashman about Wells being awful and still playing everyday. He said that he is trying to give Girardi options and basically if one of them steps up they will play over him. So basically someone has to show a pulse and they will play everyday.
    _

    It’s pretty hard to step up without consistent PT. Wells has forfeited that for now.

  32. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    “the playoffs every year and the most valuable franchise in american sports isn’t the desired result for ownership?”

    In business, cost-efficiency and asset maximization are usually determinative. They are greatly underachieving on both metrics.

  33. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    girardi definition of step up is occasional one game you are in and you better get 2 hits. Well on the other hand, 10 games and you get 1 hit then he is ok.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock June 21st, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    fantasy,

    That’s the one problem I have with Almonte being here; you know they are going to platoon him. It takes young switch hitters longer; Melky was a late bloomer and Zoilo is my comp for him. Zoilo has more power and I think the RH power will eventually come, too, if they don’t let that wither.

  35. jacksquat June 21st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm
    Yanks trade Cano anywhere,but when season over he hurries back to Yanks?

    Has anyone heard the term collusion?

    Or perhaps you think GM’s would not see something underhanded and extract their pound of flesh in future dealings?

    “It’s Hal’s fault, It’s Cashman’s fault, It’s Girardi’s fault or maybe Long’s fault?

    Wrong on #1 he did not create the financial mess leading to a 230mm. payroll, and as an owner expecting ROI he has every right to be severely pissed at this product.

    Numbers #3&4, also no, they play the cards they’ve been dealt and have done an admirable job with this roster.

    Yes #2 is the correct door and not simply for this year.

    Cashman has had ample time to view what has been delivered by the organizational gurus managing the drafts, International scouting, pending FA’s and overall developmental progress of the organization since 05. It’s called the vision thing!

    This is where he’s failed and as a result and now due to reasonable budget constraints is being hailed in some quarters as having done a “great job” patching together this year’s soon to be in last place in the division team.

    Absurd, the” fish head”is his and it doth rot , and while it must be distracting given his rappelling classes and other “I’m no longer a weenie” activities”, he along with the useless group of Tampons are to blame for the fall of the Yankee empire.

    Finally, Hal while not his Dad in any way at least is a responsible and informed businessman and lest we forget, we could have had Hank in charge!

    The owners did not help create the financial mess? LOLOLOL

    Hal an informed businessman? An informed businessman knows his business. Hal has to read player names of note cards because he doesn’t know them.

    This post just reads “biased Cashman basher”. You have company.

  36. Mordot11 June 21st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    About damn time.

  37. jacksquat June 21st, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    ac1 June 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    WHOA!
    Finally got the message with Wells?

    Finally facing a rhp since Zoilo came up.

  38. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    This post just reads “biased Cashman basher”. You have company.
    _

    Cashman is his own best basher.

  39. fantasygame101 June 21st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    j.alfred,

    Managers should have the guts to play younger player thru his struggles for them to be successful. Not every young players will hit like trout or harper specially the poorly coach Yankees minor league players.

  40. austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    We have all hoped for young guys to get a chance. They are. None of our guys are top prospects. Perhaps solid, we at least hope. We need to keep our expectations realistic. The good thing is they don’t have to be very good to be better than the alternatives.

  41. Against All Odds June 21st, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Now it’s on David Adams to hit like he belongs.

    ————–

    Hopefully he can breathe easy and take a step in the right direction.

  42. Nick in SF June 21st, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    “The good thing is they don’t have to be very good to be better than the alternatives.”

    True ‘dat. And, for those who prefer the “desperately clinging to sweet life” players, we still have a few of those in the lineup as well. Truly something for everyone tonight.

  43. austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    My friend’s soon who had labral repair the same week as Pineda and had been pitching this summer just had a new labral injury while throwing. All shoulders are different, all circumstances are different, but Pineda is still a very big question. I think far too many pencil him in. It is not even that certain.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock June 21st, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    fantasy, I agree. They don’t have a good track record when it comes to attention span for learning curves and growth spurts from youngsters.

    I hope that this time, it will be different, but I remain in the skeptical mindset of Chad Jennings’ license plate: Show Me!

  45. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    I say they score in the 4th tonite

  46. Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    It’s funny how the washed up players get 1 million chances because they are veterans and did it before. But Girardi can never just stick with a younger kid. They get to play 2 days and then they sit for a week while the veteran gets tried again. He actually has to give Adams and Zoilo a chance to play everyday otherwise they get cold sitting on the bench.

  47. Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    When is Adams going to get out of his personal slump at the plate.
    The kid is now hitting 200. That’s not impressive or good enough to keep the job.
    Soon enough he needs to improve dramatically or someone else will have to take over
    3rd until ARod is ready to return. Which might be 1 month away.

  48. Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:33 pm
    My friend’s soon who had labral repair the same week as Pineda and had been pitching this summer just had a new labral injury while throwing. All shoulders are different, all circumstances are different, but Pineda is still a very big question. I think far too many pencil him in. It is not even that certain.
    —————————————————————————————————-
    I am not getting my hopes up about Pineda until he steps on the mound for the Yankees
    in 2013 and is able to leave the game without the help of the training staff or coaches.

  49. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    The dog days of this summer started in May

  50. austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Hassey,

    That would be a good pool–our scoring inning. If no scoring, it carries over to the next game.

  51. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Cano better wrap himself in space shuttle tiles because everywhere I look he is taking serious heat

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock June 21st, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    It’s funny how the washed up players get 1 million chances because they are veterans and did it before. But Girardi can never just stick with a younger kid. They get to play 2 days and then they sit for a week while the veteran gets tried again.
    ///

    Most coaches and managers play not to lose. If the veterans fail, no one but some in the fanbase will be critical that they didn’t use the young guys.

    If the kids fail, the book says the manager should have “gone with experience.”

  53. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Austinmac- there will be a serious pot to win when the July shutouts start piling up

  54. austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Warning Track,

    Someone above noted Cashman responded to the question about AROD’s return by asking if they meant physically able to return. That is the first clue about what the Yankees think will happen.

  55. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    Most coaches and managers play not to lose. If the veterans fail, no one but some in the fanbase will be critical that they didn’t use the young guys.

    If the kids fail, the book says the manager should have “gone with experience.”
    _

    That’s why I want Marlin Joe back.

  56. Against All Odds June 21st, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Captain Clutch June 21st, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    ———————————

    Same thing I brought up the other night.

    Vet struggles – long leash, still playing, 1 million chances “we believe in him”
    Kid struggles – banished or glued to the bench.

  57. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Someone above noted Cashman responded to the question about AROD’s return by asking if they meant physically able to return. That is the first clue about what the Yankees think will happen.

    _

    Does the appeals process have to be exhausted before any suspension takes effect?

  58. blake June 21st, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    “In business, cost-efficiency and asset maximization are usually determinative. They are greatly underachieving on both metrics.”

    true….but lots of teams have done worse in both areas over the years. The Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, Angels…..etc…..all have spent loads of money with nothing to show for it. Cashman isn’t perfect nor are the Yankees…..but he gets no credit ever for all the success they have had over the last 2 decades and I just think that’s unfair……you don’t win 5 titles and make the playoffs 17 of 18 years with a moron for a GM…..you just dont

  59. Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:45 pm
    Warning Track,

    Someone above noted Cashman responded to the question about AROD’s return by asking if they meant physically able to return. That is the first clue about what the Yankees think will happen.
    —————————————
    I don’t follow. You lost me here.
    Please expand

  60. blake June 21st, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    I think it was the best thing Girardi could have done to just say look ….Adams is our 3B every day……maybe now he’ll relax and we will see if he can actually cut it or not.

  61. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    I’m not as stupid as I look
    A-rod launching bombs during rehab means nothing to me
    Don’t insult my intelligence with premature hope
    Call me when he’s hittin g .265 after 100 AB

  62. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    Someone tell me I’m crazy okay! I think the Yanks should sign Manny R to a AAA contract. He would draw fans to AAA anyway & who knows he could end up bing a RH bat in YS.

  63. Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    Blake
    I hope so. Adams started the season very well and it might have been due to
    being told he would be out there everyday until Youk returned from injury.

    Pitchers have adjusted. The scouting report is out there vs Adams. Time for him to adjust
    and fast. This team cannot afford to have an everyday player batting at or near 200

  64. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    blake

    I think that fact that he has remained in charge of the franchise despite being unable to achieve the goals he set in 2006 suggests that he has gotten abundant credit. The media kisses his butt. His trade record, particularly for starting pitchers over the last decade, is awful. His FA signings are mixed.

    He really had little to do with assembling the team that won the first four titles. Jeter, Bernie, Mariano, Pettitte, Posada, O’Neil, Cone, and Tino were all in place.

    If anyone hasn’t gotten proper credit, it’s Stick and Buck.

  65. austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Cashman was asked when AROD will return and his answer suggested it didn’t just depend on health. It suggest to me they expect a suspension. I would think they know more than the newspapers. Of course, it could be flippant Cashman.

  66. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    I think Adams gets until middle of next week to start hitting again or Musty will take his spot.

  67. Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 4:51 pm
    Someone tell me I’m crazy okay! I think the Yanks should sign Manny R to a AAA contract. He would draw fans to AAA anyway & who knows he could end up bing a RH bat in YS.
    ————————————————————————
    1)You are crazy
    2)What advantage can be had by Manny selling tickets to the AAA stadium?
    2)You are crazy

  68. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    I wouldn’t give the newspapers any credit
    This blog reported tony soprano’s death long before any newspapers or services that i saw

  69. Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    austinmac June 21st, 2013 at 4:52 pm
    Cashman was asked when AROD will return and his answer suggested it didn’t just depend on health. It suggest to me they expect a suspension. I would think they know more than the newspapers. Of course, it could be flippant Cashman.
    ——————————————————
    Mac-Thanks for the information. Now I follow.
    Look, I have no doubt the Yankees organization would love to see ARod suspended, if only to give them a bit more ammo to have the contract terminated and get out from having to pay
    all those tens of millions of dollars.

  70. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    I wouldn’t let manny Ramirez walk my dog

    He’s liable to walk out on the team at any given moment

  71. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Warning Track Power June 21st, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Thank-you! LOL!

  72. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    True! But he might take care of your dog too! Especially if the Dog was named Beantown or something. Manny with a purpose might be better than what we have seen lately.

  73. blake June 21st, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    “He really had little to do with assembling the team that won the first four titles. Jeter, Bernie, Mariano, Pettitte, Posada, O’Neil, Cone, and Tino were all in place.”

    true he didn’t build that core but he supplemented well and that matters too…..I get what youre saying,…..I just don’t think it’s that cut and dry and I don’t know all the specifics as to why decisions were made.

    I also think that regarding the goal of developing the farm…..it’s a pretty lofty goal to plan on making a top flight farm system when you pick at the back of the draft every year……not saying its impossible….it’s just not easy. They are 10th or so now in most rankings and do have good players…..we’ll see how it shakes out going forward

  74. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Cash got justice
    But what else did he do without throwing money at the problem

  75. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    “I also think that regarding the goal of developing the farm…..it’s a pretty lofty goal to plan on making a top flight farm system when you pick at the back of the draft every year……not saying its impossible….it’s just not easy. They are 10th or so now in most rankings and do have good players…..we’ll see how it shakes out going forward”

    Even if that’s true (I’m skeptical), their self-scouting has been subpar, having traded their best prospects even as the team was showing signs of age.

    Why did he wait so long to replace Conteras? Why have they drafted so few polished hitters, and the ones they do draft don’t appreciate the value of walking?

    I think it’s time for fresh eyes and fresh thinking.

  76. ac1 June 21st, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    I never thought i would say this, but watching this offense, I wouldn’t mind getting Manny Ramirez, and DFA’ing either Hafner or Wells or both. It’s worth a shot, and he wouldn’t be fetching a lot of money (500k from Oakland last time around). How much worse could he be? And if he is caught on roids again, they can just release him.

  77. tomingeorgia June 21st, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    I’d pay to see Manny as our right-handed DH. One of the best there’s ever been.
    Of course, I won’t be in the Stadium, but I already pay to watch.

  78. comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Hello Blake, I realize you are a young fellow but what decades are you speaking of re:Cashman.?

    He was an intern being properly abused by George ,while Gene Michael’s personnel moves and a core group of players was being developed in the minors, until 05.

    This then is the ONLY period where his work product and those under his aegis are being discussed!

    Mr.Squat who doesn’t seem to understand squat.

    What do you fail to grasp or understand that the Steinboys are not baseball personnel experts and have had to rely on Cashman and Co.?

    These folks and their FO minions are BUSINESS people and while understanding they need the Yankees to always be competitive DO NOT engage in personnel decisions.(Hank excluded), which is why he’s never heard from and been banished to the track!

    My point is they’ve had ample time now to have done so, and therefore must conclude the guy making these decisions should go.

    The barbarians are at the gate and without some personnel miracles from our system or a tacit agreement by the league that the Yankees should always be in the playoffs, the empire is ended.

    Off with Cashman’s head and hire Brain Sabean!

  79. Hassey June 21st, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    I’d pay to see Tom pay to watch

  80. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    blake June 21st, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    “goal of developing the farm”

    I agree its lofty, but the areas it could have been done more successfully required spending more international dollars & the Yanks basically slowed down in this area. In all fairness, Cash decided to pick Catchers & Pitchers with almost every pick & hi risk hi reward guys at that. I can’t say he failed, but if a team is loaded with MiLB Pitchers & Catchers why do you trade one for the other.

  81. bruceb June 21st, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Nick in SF

    No, I didn’t see the scoreline until you pointed it out. Not a big fan of the Confederations Cup. It’s a bit like the World Baseball Classic right now…meaningless.

    I think you were a wise man not touching the over at 7.5; most teams ease off and bring on the subs when they get a five or six-goal lead. Tahiti must have a pretty leaky defence if Torres scored four!

  82. NYYROC June 21st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    RayVt, excellent point about why trade a C for a SP when you have loaded your mL with them. Imagine if thay had traded a C (Montero) for something they didn’t have (Kyle Seager).

  83. ac1 June 21st, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 45s

    #yankees & Robinson Cano appear miles apart in talks, to the point where free agency appears likely. http://cbsprt.co/11SLpF2
    ___________________

    Maybe it is all for the best.
    He is clearly our best player, but it may be necessary to go into full on rebuild next year. No more HUGE contracts. Use that 25 M to get 3 good players.

  84. comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Do computers or the net have the capacity to deliver some type of agent that effectively muddles people’s thought processes?

    Soriano, Ramirez, seriously? These are not solutions for a team whose chances of the playoffs this year are slim and none.

    Nor to they provide relief for the future, we need to get younger not older.

    We need 4-5 tool players not the lame and the halt!

    We need to move forward not backward!

  85. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    If they want too demonstrate some outside the box thinking, make a great, forward looking trade for Cano now.

  86. Jerkface June 21st, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    The Yankees are getting zero walk year magic from grandy, cano, hughes, and joba

  87. tomingeorgia June 21st, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Hassey,
    Be nice to me. It’s my 68th birthday today, first day of summer and gorgeous outside, Mrs. Tom is making me a special dinner tonight (won’t say what is is), and I’m at peace with the world, except the tax collectors.

    Manny will sign somewhere, hit as he always has, and if he gets suspended again, who cares?

  88. comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Ever wonder where the Heyman’s of the world gather those “appearances”?

    If Cano wants more than 6×25 let him walk or trade him.

    If the respective positions are flexible it’s Heyman “appearing” to justify his existence!

    The post script is “full rebuilding mode”which does not “appear” to be in any past Yankee playbook. And Cano is the only star player on this ML roster.

  89. Wave Your Hat June 21st, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    “The Yankees are getting zero walk year magic from grandy, cano, hughes, and joba”

    Offensively, they are pretty much getting zero magic all around. As of today, more runs allowed than runs scored. When did that happen last?

  90. UnKnown June 21st, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Harry Caray voice “Let’s get some runs!”

  91. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    I don’t care much for Cash or Griardi as Yankee employees, but I give them both credit for their successes. It is hard to know what the limitations are per the FO folks behind the scenes. Maybe we should ignore that guy from Oz behind the curtain!

    The FO brought in Soriano against Cash’s wishes. I liked that move & thought it made a lot of sense at the time & it did pay off.

    I miss Mel Stottlemyre as a Pitching Coach, but the Yanks Pitching has been very good for the most part. It just seems like most of the youngsters are not getting prepared properly or should I say they are getting injured all the time. I think the Yanks need an extra AAA team that is entirely players with MLB experience trying to latch on again & another for the kids to move up & play with the fundementals being taught & the wins/Losses be ignored. Basically a AAA team to fine tune what is needed to make each player successful vs trying to win a division in miLB.

  92. MTU June 21st, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    Dave Adams. Listen to the voice of players past.

    “Dobermans are nipping at your heels.”

    Heed the warning. Hit.

    ;)

  93. MTU June 21st, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    The Yankees should emulate Teams who have been successful in developing players.

    No need to re-invent the wheel.

    Study what works and copy it.

    ;)

  94. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    I understand where you are coming from, but this is really the last year of Mo & the DL gang so it is worth a push of oldies if they aren’t Long term contracts or ones that could be traded yet again.

  95. MTU June 21st, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    New one —–>

  96. comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Rich, re: Cano, you make the “great forward looking trade”, to whom for what and how realistic do you believe the chances and why?

    Your GM assignment! ;) PS, just remember he is a generational player and the best at his position even with his current funk.

  97. RayVT June 21st, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    MTU June 21st, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Hi MTU! Great to see you! What I’ve always thought is instead of copying what everyone is copying, invent your own. The Yanks when they have been successful have made their own path. Basically re-sign your own & add veterans with 1 or 2 youngsters at most in a season. Yanks have been able to trade for players to supply relief from contract restraints for other teams. This patern works, but it cost money.

    IMO, Cash sold a new wrinkle to Hal & the gang saying he could provide them a cheaper version by cornering the market on high priced young merchandise (miLB SP & Catchers.). It hasn’t panned out yet, but it still could.

    Do the Yanks need to get younger, sure. How many opportunities did they miss out on to do so when only $$ were involved? Holliday? Darvish? Puig? Cole? Others?

  98. comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    RayVT, but what push would you have expected from Wells,Ichiro, Hughes,Joba, no real first string catcher, Gardner unproven as a offensive player etc., and the myriad of injuries to two guys who are 39& 38?

    And Ray, they do have long term contracts with Arod and CC and there is no way Jeter does not comeback albeit maybe as a DH at 40!

    Ray I am a lifelong Yankee fan of 65 years, I did not expect the Yankees to make the playoffs this year and absolutely understood and acknowledged their dearth of MLB ready prospects, the age and cap problems and the patchwork roster.

    I’m sorry but cheer leading in the face of these issues escapes me, but to each his own.

  99. comnsnse June 21st, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Ray @5:33, I’d have to disagree with your analysis.

    Throughout the George years the Yankees paid their way into contention with a myriad of FA deals, and even the until 95 to 2000 segment had difficulty contending after the initial successes in 76-7-8.

    There is no novelty as to their 95-2000 success, it’s called developing a core group with drafting, scouting and a modicum of luck.

    Williams, Jeter, Pettitte,Posada,Mo complimented with judicious acquisitions like O’Neil, Clemens, Cone and Wells among others, but always the core.( That sounds like Gen. McArthur, only spelled differently) :)

    This is what they must do again but as posted numerous times imo Cashman and the Tampa cabal are not the people to do it.

    Revenue sharing and a salary cap designed not necessarily for parity but for cost certainty for the owners have made the Yanks just another organization.

    We will likely never see their accomplishments repeated.

    The triumph of corporate America,and Wall St. , reduce everything to profit and loss!

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