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Basically the same lineup as yesterday

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 22, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner CF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Travis Hafner DH
Lyle Overbay 1B
Zoilo Almonte RF
Jayson Nix SS
David Adams 3B
Chris Stewart C

LHP CC Sabathia

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69 Responses to “Basically the same lineup as yesterday”

  1. Niblick June 22nd, 2013 at 10:21 am

    After one one start, Almonte’s WAR is higher than Wells’s.

  2. Niblick June 22nd, 2013 at 10:22 am

    I hope no Ray hits a ball to left field today. With 2 RF and 0 LF it’s going to be tough to cover all the territory.

  3. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:25 am

    It worked didn’t it.

    :)

  4. jacksquat June 22nd, 2013 at 10:27 am

    CC is going to throw nothing but two seamers on the 1b side of the plate.

  5. austinmac June 22nd, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Niblick,

    Your WAR is probably higher than Wells’.

  6. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Off course that was Fausto, I mean Roberto, pitching.

  7. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Niblick says:
    June 22, 2013 at 10:21 am
    After one one start, Almonte’s WAR is higher than Wells’s.

    They could play ghost man in LF and he’d have a more positive effect that Vern has lately.

    Just having Almonte and Adams play every day gives me more of a reason to watch….,sure they might struggle some….but there is also the hope that they’ll get better

  8. Hassey June 22nd, 2013 at 10:29 am

    I wonder if anyone has ever done an analysis of all past Yankee old timers days to see what year had the greatest difference between the average age of the OTD invitees and the average age of the Yankee starters that day in the real game

    Cc is better at home vs tb but their righties are so locked in right now I envision a tough day for the Michelin man

  9. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Blake-

    just wait till Ronnier comes up.

    Then you’ll have 3.

    ;)

  10. jacksquat June 22nd, 2013 at 10:30 am

    It’s very odd that Adams has not walked yet in 86 pa. He hit .296/.380 in the minors, so he definitely had strike zone discipline.

  11. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:34 am

    OK. So who wants to answer my question.

    Why was J-Ram sent back down to AA when just recently they said he was staying at AAA for the rest of the season.

    What happened in that microsecond of time to change things.

    Anybody know ?

  12. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:34 am

    jacksquat says:
    June 22, 2013 at 10:30 am
    It’s very odd that Adams has not walked yet in 86 pa. He hit .296/.380 in the minors, so he definitely had strike zone discipline.

    I think he was pressing before….hoping he will settle down now and just play. He walked a fair amount in the minors and that just doesn’t go away…..

  13. UnKnown June 22nd, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Nice no Wells. Definitely have a chance to win.

  14. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:36 am

    “Why was J-Ram sent back down to AA when just recently they said he was staying at AAA for the rest of the season.”

    Yea I’m not sure they should have moved him to AAA yet anyway…..but once they did and said he was going to stay it seemed strange to pull the plug after one mediocre-bad start.

  15. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Re Post

    It’s not a well run business, it’s a bean counter’s business. The irony is that they are trying to run a multi billion dollar pretend business in accounting, bottom line fashion.

    The whole thing is driven by successful star power and quarterly reports, fueled by marketing. The whole idea of spending large millions for potentially star players must drive them insane. That’s why they put the draft on a budget, they were checking the quarterly bottom line.

    And let’s not talk about Goldman Sachs, the dream spinners being dream spun. Selling mortgages on mansions to people without money. Then selling the package to pension funds as the most reliable investments.

    We whip Hank and Hal for the A Rod contract. Anyone notice that they were whipsawed by G/S, the major minority partner. Yes, you can have major minorities in today’s business. Success is determined by this year’s bottom line.

    You want futures? They’re being sold by our other department along with higher profit taking.

    It’s all about selling the glitz, not the glamor. The sizzle without the oink.

  16. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Blake-

    Why not challenge a kid w that kind of talent ?

    Might just have been a proceedural move.

    But it’s odd that they said he was staying and then shortly after he was moved w/o any explanation.

    Maybe Chad can find out something ?

  17. Jetrer June 22nd, 2013 at 10:41 am

    fwiw:

    Josh Norris
    ?@jnorris427
    Caleb Cotham and Jose Ramirez transferred back here, but that is a paper move, I’m told.

  18. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Challenging a kid pitcher smacks to me of lack of development. I thought development took precedence. Otherwise it’s the full blown Peter Principle.

  19. Frankg June 22nd, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Re: J-Ram being sent back to AA. Donnie Collins is not convinced that is happening. See comments below:

    In other interesting news, right-handers Caleb Cotham and Jose Ramirez were sent to Double-A Trenton. Yes, that is the same Caleb Cotham scheduled to start one of the doubleheader games tomorrow for the RailRiders. And the same Jose Ramirez who was on the board today to start on Tuesday. (And the same Jose Ramirez I said “Hola” to in the clubhouse, so he’s still here.)

  20. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Bo-

    So I think I can safely say from reading your post that you are not a fan of it.

    And that your not buying that particular piece of swampland.

    ;)

  21. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:42 am

    MTU,

    Yea I thought it was weird…..may have just been a numbers thing. He only had like 40 innings at AA though so is let him stay there awhile longer and refine his slider and command. He’s not that far from the bigs either way…..I he masters AA he can either skip AAA really if need be. Id like to see him stay healthy…..pitch most of the year at Trenton thenYankees the last month at Scranton…..that’d put him on track to fight for a rotation spot next year if they need him that soon

  22. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Josh Norris
    ?@jnorris427
    Caleb Cotham and Jose Ramirez transferred back here, but that is a paper move, I’m told.

    There you go….maybe he’s not going back

  23. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:43 am

    My question is when is Sanchez heading to Trenton

  24. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Frank-

    Thanks. I get it now. Another “pretend” thing.

    :)

  25. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:44 am

    @Buster_ESPN: ESPN Stats/Info: Gerrit Cole threw 8 pitches at 100+ MPH Friday; all other starters in MLB this year have combined for 1 (Matt Harvey).

  26. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:45 am

    @jnorris427: Two days, two HRs for Gosuke Katoh. Sandy Brito has also popped one this AM. #Yankees

  27. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Blake-

    There will plenty of candidates to fight for pitching slots next season if they like.

    J-Ram might be one of them. Along with Banuelos.

    The Yankees are loaded w pitching.

    They should move some of it.

  28. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 10:47 am

    And that your not buying that particular piece of swampland.
    ——-
    It’s marketing gone wild. Thousand dollar seats at a baseball game. The nouveau riche watching faux quality baseball and being seen, ingesting faux steak sandwiches that come from faux beef.

    P T Barnum is roasting in envy.

  29. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:48 am

    MTU,

    Agree….moving the right ones for the right players is the trick though.

  30. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:49 am

    I like to see a sudden death radar gun match between Cole, Verlander, Kimbrel, and Chapman.

    Winner takes all.

    Who can exceed 100 MPH the most for the longest. First guy under 100 loses.

    My money is on Chapman winning.

  31. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:50 am

    “My money is on Chapman winning.”

    The winner might depend on if the pitch has to be a strike or not

  32. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Bo-

    That’s what happens when somone who loves money and the bottom line more than baseball takes over your Team.

    ;)

  33. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 10:52 am

    We’ve just spent many years of the Hughes and Joba horror show. Ramirez has a spotty resume due various injuries and very little time at AA. I’m still at a loss to understand why he’s in AAA.

  34. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Blake-

    Does not have to be a strike. Just sustained velo.

    W/P’s count against you though.

  35. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Bo-

    Call Newman.

    ;)

  36. jacksquat June 22nd, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Ramirez has a spotty resume due various injuries and very little time at AA. I’m still at a loss to understand why he’s in AAA.

    Did you watch him pitch in spring training?

  37. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Id bet on Chapman for a short stint…..Verlander probably over 100 pitches though.

  38. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Blake-

    Just take the ball and try to throw as many 100 or above pitches.

    First guy who fall below 100 loses.

    I bet Verlander does before Chapman.

    You ?

  39. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:56 am

    JRam was dominant at times in AA but he has games still where he has not only no command but no control either…..he still needs to refine his delivery a bit more and through more quality strikes. Maybe the yanks think facing more polished and experienced hitters at AAA will force him to work on those things…..often there is more talent in AA….but better approaches in AAA

  40. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Yes in a contest like that Id pick Chapman or Cole…..

  41. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Levine and Cashman discussing strategy.

    L “We have no offense, bring up Neal. He’s killing it in Scranton”

    C “He can’t hit an off speed pitch, he has no arm, Cleveland dropped him”

    L ” Brian, you’re always picking at the scabs, I’ve talked to you about that. New blood, it writes itself. Why do I have to help you do your job?”

    And scene

  42. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Blake-

    My money is on Chapman.

    He can throw 100 easily.

    100+ actually.

  43. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Blake-

    I think the Cuban has been clocked at close to 105.

    Cole has never done that.

    Few in the World ever have.

    Feller probably could in his prime.

  44. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:02 am

    There are rumors out there that Chapman is catalogued as a low grade Tornado.

    :)

  45. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Bo,

    That’s probably pretty accurate…

  46. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Did you watch him pitch in spring training?
    ———
    Did you watch Montero hit in the September callup? Same thing, only different.

    You have to develop talent. Give it a solid foundation. Otherwise, it’s the meteor phenomenon.

  47. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 11:04 am

    MTU,
    Probably ….he’s only averaging 97.5 this year though :) …..only

  48. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Bo-

    Or a failed rocket test. More apropos.

    :)

  49. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:07 am

    In case no one has noticed the Yankees are not generally very big in the patience department.

    Unless you count microseconds as long intervals.

    ;)

  50. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Those 100 mph baseballs remind me of an old joke

    “I’m as good once, as I ever was.”

  51. Against All Odds June 22nd, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Damn you Cole

  52. blake June 22nd, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Against All Odds says:
    June 22, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Damn you Cole

    Seriously

  53. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 11:12 am

    We laud the Rays on their pitcher development program and call out the Yankees for not challenging theirs.

    Does not compute.

    Hello Philbert.

    “He was a Star in Texas, oncet. You can’t take that away from him. Hamstring, you say? Who remembers picayune details like that?”

  54. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Bo-

    The Yankees are not likely to ever be patient. Hughes might be the only exception I can think of.

    And he might have been a poor choice to be the one.

    It’s incompatibale w win now mentality. And I do not see that changing. That’s the Yankee charter.

    Don’t hold your breath.

  55. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:19 am

    AAO-

    Actually it should probably be “Damn you Cole’s Father”.

    ;)

  56. Niblick June 22nd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    If he had signed with the Yanks, he probably would have been ruined by the minor league “instruction” anyway.

  57. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 11:23 am

    The Yankees are not likely to ever be patient. Hughes might be the only exception I can think of.
    ———–
    Hughes is a bad example.

    They rushed him from the minors after one of the coldest springs on record. Never had a chance to build up his strength. He overthrew a CB and blew a hammy in Texas and hasn’t been the same since. Even Pete was screaming that they were rushing him early in the season for no reason.

    In an interview years later, Hughes corroborated this.

  58. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Bo-

    Fine. Then I retract that. They have never been patient w a pitcher.

    Feel better.

    :)

  59. Niblick June 22nd, 2013 at 11:26 am

    I don’t buy that. How do you not recover physically from a hammy after all these years? Maybe it affected him mentally?

  60. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Minor league destruction more likely.

    I hear Gil Ptterson wears a cape w the SC on it.

    Maybe that’ll change things.

    ;)

  61. jacksquat June 22nd, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 11:03 am
    Did you watch him pitch in spring training?
    ———
    Did you watch Montero hit in the September callup? Same thing, only different.

    You have to develop talent. Give it a solid foundation. Otherwise, it’s the meteor phenomenon.

    Apples and oranges. I didn’t say Ramirez could be major league success right now. You said you were wondering why he was moved to AAA. Because he has the stuff and talent for it. He doesn’t need to stay in AA. He needs to be challenged by AAA and see if he can develop enough command to get more experienced and patient minor leaguers out without walking 4 or 5 guys per start.

  62. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:29 am

    sp: Patterson

  63. Bo knows June 22nd, 2013 at 11:32 am

    I don’t buy that. How do you not recover physically from a hammy after all these years? Maybe it affected him mentally?

    —————–
    It shortened his stride, which in turn did not allow him to finish his pitches. I’m not a pitching savant but people who are, explained it that way to me. My idea was that he bulked up and lost his flexibility.

    But then, I was always the guy going, “What’s he got today?” Never about, what are his mechanics.

  64. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Here’s some questions I have always had in regards to our MiLB’s :

    1 Who are our strength and conditoning coaches ?

    2 Are they the best available ?

    3 Are they there in sufficient #’s ?

    4 Are our youngsters taught about good nutrition and how to take of their bodies ?

    5 Do we have anyone who can teach our youngsters how to prevent injury ?

    6 Are our guys taught the value of stretching and flexibility ?

    etc.

  65. MTU June 22nd, 2013 at 11:35 am

    New post ——->

  66. mick June 22nd, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Man..the difference between AAA and the Bigs as far as hitting off majors pitching is Huge.
    Welcome to the Big Leagues David Adams.

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