“hughes isnt going to have amazing success anywhere, no matter how big the stadium. he has no out pitch.”
I know the perception is that he has “no out pitch” (maybe because it seems he struggles with 2strikes a lot), but he has the highest K/9 on the Yankees. So something doesn’t quite jive between perception and the stat.
i say he has no out pitch b/c he seems to be throwing again and again and again to hitters with 2 strikes. i dont think k’s indicate anything in this regard. other pitchers might have far fewer 2 strike pitches (thus less ke’s) or be getting more outs other than k’s with 2 strike counts
yeah i must have mixed bumgarner with someone else on the list but you’re right it looks like about 50% were available to the yankees when they picked at some point. but as i also pointed out, every other team passed on these guys, too.
just wanted to clear up the misconception (which i held myself) that they never get to pick these top guys.
If there is a pitching coach out there that can get Hughes back to throwing his FB in the zone and help him develop a true secondary pitch, he can be very successful. It’s probably not likely, but it’s possible.
Ys Guy June 24th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
how bad a hammy injury could it have been? people recover to just about 100% from hammies. jose reyes has pulled his like 10 times including this year. and he already has a steal in 3 rehab games.
hard to believe that phil just can’t stride as far 4 years after a hammy injury.
Maybe there is more to it than that because as you said how could a hamstring injury throw him that far off course.
just wanted to clear up the misconception (which i held myself) that they never get to pick these top guys”
They don’t get to pick most of them…..now some they could have signed when they were international kids…..but signing a 17 year old Dominican and drafting a 21 year old college pitcher are two different things and there is a lot more risk and ways to screw up the former
Hughes pulled his hammy and then hurt his ankle in the rehab. The result is that his motion changed and he was hesitant to land with full extension for fear of pulling it again. It took the bite off his fastball and curve.
This is some speculation but I think he has even said this before (about being hesitant) in an interview
Given the Yankees draft position and their poor development of those they do wind up drafting, all the more of a head scratcher as to why they didn’t take the calculated risk with guys like Chapman, Cespedes, Puig and Darvish who were advanced prospects/proven performers in their native countries.
I agree with those last two picks. They were really odd.
However I loved this year’s draft and it just might be their best ever — especially if they can sign a couple of later picks above slot and grab the value there. Certainly since the 2006 draft — Kennedy, Joba, Mcallister, Betances, Kontos and Melancon.
Hughes time has almost run out as a Yankee. The key to me has the Yankees concluded he will turn down a QO and if yes, can they find a trade matchup that exceeds the value of a supplemental draft choice?
Even if Hughes is mediocre the rest of this year some team will give him at least 3/25 as a FA.
I’d love to know what if anything the NYY offered to the big $$$ international free agents. Reports indicated the Yanks did make offers to Darvish, Cespedes and Chatman but not Puig after the Dodgers pre-emptive bid. The Cubs apparently had Soler in their back pocket from day one.
It will be interesting to see how the IFA budget rules will affect the next wave of MLB ready foreign players.
Came late to the chat, but wanted to be sure to contribute to the attendance portion by pointing out that one of the biggest reasons for large turnouts at away games is because the Yankee contingent is so large there. So, it stands to reason that if the attendance is low at away games, it’s probably the Yankees fans who aren’t turning out in numbers that they usually do. It seems to me that this would validate the argument that the Yankees fans are purposefully staying away from all games, home and away.