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Postgame notes: “Letting the team down is the worst part”

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Andy Pettitte

It was only one game, but Wednesday night’s 8-5 loss to the Texas Rangers was especially frustrating for the Yankees on a couple of fronts.

Of course, a win would have been nice to take some of the heat off of the organization after a wild day that was dominated by injury news and A-Rod nonsense. But it was also a tough day for two pitchers that were considered to be critical parts of the Yankees success coming into the season.

“Same old story for me right now every time I pitch,” Andy Pettitte said. “It’s frustrating. Guys battled and fought back, and it was good to see them do that, but unfortunately we couldn’t hold them down. They’ve got a good lineup, and we weren’t able to get it done.”

Pettitte didn’t pitch all that poorly, but a four-run third for the Rangers turned out to be his undoing. He’s now lost three consecutive starts, and it seemed like it was weighing on him after the game.

A pitcher who has been struggling even more so recently is Joba Chamberlain, who promptly served up a two-run homer to Nelson Cruz in the seventh just after the Yankees had cut their deficit to one-run. He has now allowed at least a run in five of his last seven appearances.

“It’s frustrating, and letting the team down is the worst part,” Chamberlain said. “I know I suck right now. There’s no getting around it, so you have to figure out what you can do to make it better.”

• The Yankees got on the board first thanks to Lyle Overbay, who hit a solo homer on the same day that he found out he’ll likely be the Yankees’ everyday first baseman for the remainder of the season. But Texas responded in the third thanks to some sloppy D and a string of hits. After Leonys Martin led off with a single and Ian Kinsler walked, Elvis Andrus laid down a sac bunt and reached safely on an error to load the bases. Cruz struck out, but Adrian Beltre and A.J. Pierzynski each followed with two-run doubles to give the Rangers a 4-1 lead. “Obviously, just to Beltre a bad pitch. That was it. I got him 0-2 and tried to elevate a fastball to him, and I didn’t get it quite high enough. He’s a good hitter,” Pettitte said. “I made a good pitch to Pierzynski, and he must have been sitting on it. He was all over that ball. It was down and away and out of a strike zone – a cutter. It’s a pitch that I’m hoping I could get a swing-and-miss on, or get an out.”

• Other than that one inning, Pettitte didn’t pitch all that poorly. He gave the Yankees six innings and pitched a season-high 107 pitches, striking out six and allowing three earned runs on six hits and two walks. But for Pettitte, it’s all about winning, and that’s what really stung him. “I feel real good, it’s just frustrating,” he said. “You want to win. You want to help this team win. A big win last night for us, and you’re hoping that you can come out tonight and put up some zeros. And I’m not putting up zeros for us.”

• Pettitte reiterated several times that he’s feeling good, which gives him optimism that things will turn around if he stays the course. It’s not like he’s been getting shelled; he’s just being giving up more runs than he’s accustomed to giving up. “Right now, it’s just not happening for me,” he said. “And it’ll turn. I just want my body to continue to feel good, and if I keep throwing the ball the way that I am now, I know that it’s going to turn around. It’s just a matter of staying positive… This ain’t nothing I haven’t been through before.”

• On an odd play in the third, Martin bunted back towards the pitcher’s mound, and when Pettitte picked it up, his arm collided with Jayson Nix on the throw attempt. It looked pretty violent and the Steve Donohue came out to check on Pettitte, but it seems like Nix was the one who was more shaken up. “It did at first just because I hit him,” Pettitte said when asked if it was a scare. “I mean, I threw a ball as hard as I could to first and I hit him good. I knocked the wind out of him. I was fortunate that I didn’t hurt my arm. I felt fine. That wasn’t an issue at all.”

• The Yankees rallied back in the sixth with four straight hits to start the inning. Brett Gardner reached on an infield single, which was followed by a double from Ichiro Suzuki . That prompted Texas manager Ron Washington to bring in lefty reliever Robbie Ross to face left-handed batters Robinson Cano and Travis Hafner, but both came through with RBI singles to cut the deficit to 4-3. The bases were reloaded when Zoilo Almonte walked with one out, but Nix grounded into an inning-ending double play.

Joba Chamberlain• With Pettitte at 107 pitches, Joe Girardi opted to go to Joba to pitch the seventh. Every time he comes in recently you can’t help but notice this feeling of impending doom, and the fans started getting antsy with him right away. He served up a two-run homer to Cruz, which sucked the air out of the place and shut down the Yankees comeback hopes as quickly as they had started. “Just fastball command,” Joba said of his issues recently. “I’m obviously being aggressive, but being up in the zone. These guys are really good, and you can’t be up in the zone. They make you pay for your mistakes. You have to get back out there and figure out what you can do to change it.”

• Joba also spoke about needing to look at his delivery and make sure that his mechanics are in order. He stressed that he feels fine, but pretty much everything seemed to hang up in the zone. “Just go look at film and see if we’re drifting, not getting over the rubber, and just work on those things. Be positive and know you’ve done it before,” he said. “Obviously, if that was bad mechanically, my velo would be down, and it’s continued to get better. We have to figure out what the problem is and fix it quick.”

• With others in the pen pitching well (personally, I think that Boone Logan should be the go-to guy in the seventh if he isn’t needed to face a lefty earlier in the game), Girardi was asked why he continues to go to Chamberlain in close games. “I don’t know,” he said. “Somehow, we have to find a way to get him going. That’s the bottom line. This guy needs to help us, and to me his stuff is too good not to help us. But right now, he’s making mistakes.”

• One guy who continues to play well is Ichiro. He had the big hit last night, and went 3 for 4 tonight. His two-run homer in the seventh brought the Yankees back to within one run, but they gave the Rangers two runs back in the ninth.

• Lastly, with his six strikeouts tonight, Andy Pettitte improved his total to 1,956 as a Yankee, which puts him one behind Whitey Ford for the most in franchise history. “That’s cool,” he said. “Anytime you tie Whitey in anything, that’s good stuff. That means I’ve been around here for a long time and I’m getting old. That’s what it means. But it’s an honor to be able to have played as long as I have here, and I feel very blessed and fortunate. I don’t take it for granted. I appreciate it a whole lot, that’s for sure.”

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103 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Letting the team down is the worst part””

  1. JT June 26th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Why this continuing fascination with “Joba’s stuff.” He throws 93-95 with a slider that is too often a cement mixer. His stuff is actually pretty pedestrian at this point. What am I missing here?

  2. Nick in SF June 27th, 2013 at 12:29 am

    I think what we’re missing is what we saw and what might have been.

    I hope Joba can find some of it again.

  3. Jerkface June 27th, 2013 at 12:36 am

    93-95 fb and his slider is generally pretty good, thats not pedestrian. Its not elite bullpen stuff.

  4. UnKnown June 27th, 2013 at 12:46 am

    Sweet I will get to see Andy break Whitey’s record on Monday night at Target Field. I’m getting pumped for the 4 game set. Last tune up for everyone through the rotation before the 4th of July series.

    The offense is starting to actually look as good as it has looked since April so I’m encouraged by that fact. I was hoping they would roll into Minny in a beat of a groove. The fact that I feel like we’re not out of games when only trailing by a run or two is nice. I like seeing the HR’s too.

    Hughes tomorrow against a tough Ranger team. Could be dicey but I’m still rolling with Phil. I think the Hughes Train that was trying to gain steam at the beginning of the year and passengers has two left on it, Igotid and myself. :grin:

    We. Are. Not. Scared.

  5. yankeefeminista June 27th, 2013 at 12:48 am

    Unknown, I too am on the Hughes train. Good night!

  6. Nick in SF June 27th, 2013 at 12:51 am

    I don’t know how you can say that after the spirited defense of Hughes that I posted earlier. :sad:

  7. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2013 at 12:52 am

    I don’t think it’s about a train. It’s about the diminishing amount of time that the team has him under control.

  8. UnKnown June 27th, 2013 at 12:57 am

    Nick – Sorry if it was in the game thread I missed it. I have been staying out of those for the most part of late. Trying to keep my sanity and all that jazz.

    Rich – You could be right.

  9. UnKnown June 27th, 2013 at 12:58 am

    YF – Of course my bad. I knew that!! Hey sometimes it’s not about the quantity of passengers but the quality. :wink:

  10. Nick in SF June 27th, 2013 at 1:17 am

    “As for Hughes, he sometimes does very well when people are most down on him, so he’s due for a gem tomorrow. I’m in his corner. I expect a great Hughes performance and a Yankee win tomorrow. You have a friend on LoHud, Phil Hughes.”

    And there you have it! Now I have to go eat. Goodbye.

  11. tucker June 27th, 2013 at 1:18 am

    The Dodgers have won five in a row, just six games out and their lineup is at full strength (if you consider Crawford the 4th outfielder with the emergence of Puig.

    I imagine they will aggressively pursue a starter and a pen arm to replace the beleaguered Brandon League. Maybe Joba and Phil can wax up their surfboards and head west.

  12. Pat M. June 27th, 2013 at 1:28 am

    tucker…….Cliff Lee

  13. UnKnown June 27th, 2013 at 1:31 am

    Dodgers are fun to watch. They are appointment TV for me right now. Yanks game over I hurry and find what channel the Dodgers are on.

    I like it San Fran Nick. All Aboard!! Next stop Winnersville, USA.

  14. tucker June 27th, 2013 at 1:35 am

    Cliff Lee would make the Dodgers dangerous. What’s another $25 million? …

    The Phillies are giving mixed signals on whether he is available, but that team need to hit the reset button ever more the Yanks need to.

    Nolasco and Garza also may be available, but the Dodgers seem intent on acquiring production AND star value. Lee would fit the bill.

  15. Pat M. June 27th, 2013 at 1:58 am

    tucker….If they ( Dodgers were to obtain Lee ) then they can trot out 3 Cy Young pitchers all recently receiving the award very recently.. A very dangerous ballclub indeed. I need 92 wins from these guys

  16. sammiejohnson June 27th, 2013 at 2:39 am

    Pat M.

    With most of their crew back, I think that LAD has set themselves up for a nice little run. But with their slow start, 92 is really pushing it.

  17. Wang IS Taiwan June 27th, 2013 at 5:22 am

    Chad,

    Is there any talk of Joba’s weight gain among the beat guys? Is it just me or has he put on some more weight? Is that affecting him?

    And if HE says he has sucked lately, then why wasn’t that obvious to Girardi today? Tight game and all?

    Thanks for the continuing great coverage.

  18. PacoDooley June 27th, 2013 at 6:14 am

    Such a shame that they did not manage to trade Joba when his value was crazy high. He and Hughes could have netted a haul. Still unhappy that they didn’t manage to land Lee in a Hughes trade (I think they win the WS that year if that trade goes through, and the pedestrian performance of those ‘can’t miss’ talents shows you why you should sometimes leverage young players into established quality)

  19. joeman June 27th, 2013 at 6:52 am

    take away the 2010 season there’s not much there for Hughes…looking
    at a .500 MLB SPer…..what the NYY have been playing since the beginning of May .500 ball

  20. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2013 at 7:03 am

    Good morning

    Hopefully there is no truth to this story:

    http://www.rlyw.net/index.php/.....lay_source

  21. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2013 at 7:26 am

    And this……….

    By Zach Links [June 26 at 9:57pm CST]
    Alex Rodriguez believes the Yankees do not want him to return this season, and perhaps ever again, a source told Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork.com. The source says that A-Rod thinks the Yankees are deliberately slowing his return to their active roster in the hope they can have him declared medically unfit to play this season, enabling them to recoup the bulk of his $28MM salary through insurance. “Alex thinks there’s something really off about this situation,” the source said. “Here we have a doctor declaring him fit to play. You think they would be happy about that.”

  22. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2013 at 7:35 am

    GM

    This is a high stakes game of chicken being played by a bunch of well-funded turkeys.

    Every one involved is playing the media to advance an agenda.

  23. blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:39 am

    As bad as the offense is they could use Alex. That said I do think they are trying to get rid if him somehow…….as has been said though if he can play and they try to seem him unfit then that’s insurance fraud and also the union would pitch a fit.

    Joba needs to go of have his role reduced to mop up duty……they can’t afford to have him making winnable games unwinnable anymore. Trade to the dodgers for a Disneyland ticket and call up Betances

  24. blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:39 am

    joeman says:
    June 27, 2013 at 6:52 am
    take away the 2010 season there’s not much there for Hughes…looking
    at a .500 MLB SPer…..what the NYY have been playing since the beginning of May .500 ball

    2012 was basically the same as 2010

  25. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 7:46 am

    Morning Blake —

    I think Joba has an option left, and if so they should send him down for Betances. He’s serving no real purpose… certainly no good purpose.

    I find it hard to believe they won’t find a RH bat to share 1B with Overbay and maybe a little DH or 3B or OF duty. Paul Konerko is a new name to throw out there and he makes a lot of sense to me cuz the Chisox are going nowhere.

  26. blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    86 ,
    Yea they could send him down I guess……Id rather see if they could get anything at all for him….even just a flyer A ball prospect

  27. blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:50 am

    Is Konerko healthy?

  28. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    On a positive note, Jose Campos was good last night. Four innings, 1 run, 6 K. I know they’re babying him a bit…. only 52 pitches… but he could still be a real asset.

  29. pkyankfan69 June 27th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:39 am

    Trade to the dodgers for a Disneyland ticket and call up Betances
    ——————————
    No way Joba nets a Disneyland ticket from the Dodgers…

    A can of farts is much more appropriate value.

  30. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    Blake-

    It’s this statement that I want to validate. “The source also said he has heard speculation Rodriguez could use the hip problem to retire. That would allow him to collect the $114 million owed to him.”

    correct me if I’m wrong here:
    The Yankees would still, under those circumstances, be charged the AAV of 27.5M during the remainder of the contract. If he was healthy and elected to retire then the current contract would be null and void.

    Also if all the doctors cleared him to play, insurance isn’t willingly going to pay the Yankees the 80% or whatever % the Yankees have taken out a policy for.

  31. blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    “correct me if I’m wrong here:
    The Yankees would still, under those circumstances, be charged the AAV of 27.5M during the remainder of the contract. If he was healthy and elected to retire then the current contract would be null and void.”

    Correct…..

  32. blake June 27th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    “No way Joba nets a Disneyland ticket from the Dodgers…”

    An Applebee’s gift card?

  33. austinmac June 27th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    YT,

    You are certainly correct the insurance company will not roll over on a disability claim. Several years ago the Astros were in litigation with their carrier over Bagwell’s disability. At the end of the day, they would have to show by the greater weight of the evidence that AROD is physically unable to play.

    I wish we could add offense, including AROD or anyone else. At this point, can we go the Damn Yankees route in reverse.

  34. pkyankfan69 June 27th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    An Applebee’s gift card?
    —————————
    Much better, now we are being realistic!

    And at that Applebees dinner, Hal and Cash have to remain sober so they can’t forget that they are stuck eating there.

  35. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    The Yankees are amongst the bottom 4 teams in the AL in just about every offensive stat. What used to be a strength-OB%- that allowed them to get into the others teams bullpens early, now sits at .303

    Runs scored 302. Runs allowed 305. I believe the Yankees had the best or 2nd best AL ERA two weeks ago. Now it’s 5th best.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/t...../league/al

  36. RadioKev June 27th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    Joba’s time with New York is just about finished. We’ve got Betances and more arms…

  37. austinmac June 27th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    As a fan, I pull for the team and hope for success. However, any objective look at the team will tell one this team simply is lacking too many pieces. Far too many.

    The biggest risk is the team will give up a good prospect, of whom we have too few, for a guy to finish out his contract here. Next year and thereafter look far worse than this year. They cannot give up players who they will need for the years to come.

    I would love to add offense, but only on a longer than this year basis.

  38. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    Thanks Blake and Austinmac-

    So essentially, Arod, after rehab, cleared by his doctors, has to play for the Yankees. He can’t retire and expect to have the Yankees honor the rest of his contract.

    The Dodgers are busy trying to add a starter-Nolasco, Garza, or as PatM mentioned, Cliff Lee. With the return of their injured players, adding Lee could well get them into the playoffs, and if Puig is the real deal, onto the WS.

  39. Tar June 27th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    “The source also said he has heard speculation Rodriguez could use the hip problem to retire.”

    The “sources” heard “speculation”…..oy vey

  40. austinmac June 27th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Puig has turned around the Dodgers. Boy, I would love a young exciting player. They bring such enthusiasm. I wish I saw a high upside guy in our system. Do we have potential 30 homer guy anywhere?

  41. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Betances solid again last night. 1 2/3 scoreless w/ 2 K.

    YT — Clearly the Yanks are staying competitive despite a lot of shortcomings. No problem is larger than the offense and the fact that other than Cano and Gardner (and maybe Ichiro) there isn’t a guy out there you’d want to play 7X a week. Too many part time players in full time roles.

    Unless you have the insurance policy right in front of you it’s impossible to know the terms of the coverage, definitions of disability if there are payouts for 30 games missed, 60, 90 or what have you.

    If Alex is just now getting the feeling the Yanks would like him to go away he’s the least perceptive man on the planet — which may very well be the case.

  42. austinmac June 27th, 2013 at 8:22 am

    YT,

    Doctors will use tests to determine strength and flexibility of the hip. Of course, AROD can say he has significant pain that prevents him from doing the necessary baseball activities. Credibility would then become the key. That’s a problem.

  43. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    As a fan, I pull for the team and hope for success. However, any objective look at the team will tell one this team simply is lacking too many pieces. Far too many.
    ————————-

    On top of that there are too many question marks, with players that are coming back this season and then there’s the increasing likelihood that the Yankees will allow Cano to test FA, because currently it’s rumored he wants an ARod contract.

    But………If the Yankees can add a bat, get Jeter healthy with mobility to play SS, get production from the rest of the walking wounded, maybe they can make the playoffs and make it to the WS.

  44. Tar June 27th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    “Too many part time players in full time roles.”

    Yep, and it’s hard to find fault with them because of it. Like take Nix last night, I don’t blame him.

    Having said that I wouldn’t mind Gonzalez getting into a few more games and giving Nixy some rest.

  45. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    Yanks signed 7th round RHP Nick Rumbelow. they have signed 16 of their 17 picks in the first 15 rounds with only Aaron Judge to get signed.

    They have over $ 300 K from the bonus pool left over if Judge signs for slot. That money should be used to sweeten the pot for one or more of their later picks who were chosen late because of signability questions.

  46. jacksquat June 27th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Joba has 5 years, he would have to clear waivers and give his consent to be assigned to a minor league team.

  47. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Good morning.

    Oh how the mighty have fallen.

    Hard to remember that Joba.

    :(

  48. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    jacksquat says:
    June 27, 2013 at 8:51 am
    Joba has 5 years, he would have to clear waivers and give his consent to be assigned to a minor league team.

    Yup true

  49. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    IMO Chamberlain is at a crossroads in his career.

    In the off season he’d better do a lot of soul searching.

    If he wants to achieve any more of his potential he will need to re-dedicate himself to much better conditioning.

    If he were serious and smart he’d head for API this Winter and come into camp with his next Team cut.

    ;)

  50. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    “In the off season he’d better do a lot of soul searching.”

    More soul searching and less bacon cheeseburger searching ?

  51. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    And I hope he finds a job closer to home.

  52. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Blake-

    :)

    yeah. But he’d better re-dedicate himself.

    Because right now he said it himself, “He sucks.”

    I’ve gotta believe if he were in better shape it would help.

  53. astrocityfan June 27th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    I think Joba needs a change of scenary. He just isnt going to succeed here. That said if he has a couple of good outings before the all star break he could still have trade value. I think honestly that is one reason Joe is running him out there. He is giving Joba a chance to succeed to maximize his value.

  54. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Shape or no shape Jobas stuff is good enough to succeed…..he makes dumb pitches and he has no cm and at all anymore. Now maybe he could repeat his delivery better if he were in better shape….. I don’t know. At the end of the day he’s killing them and they can’t keep pitching him……they can’t afford bad relievers

  55. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Astro-

    Gotta think they want to move him.

    Pat M. has said that they have been shopping him but the return was not acceptable.

    Perhaps that will change and they will take less for him.

    I wish him well w his new team.

  56. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    @Joelsherman1: Column http://t.co/I8fFNtYKJK publicly: all’s fine, privately: hatching insurance fraud theories vs. the other. #Yankees/A-Rod a hate story

  57. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Last Updated: 4:32 AM, June 27, 2013
    Alex Rodriguez hates the Yankees and the Yankees hate Alex Rodriguez. Nothing changed yesterday amid the calmed tones and spin doctoring.

    From Sherman’s column

  58. astrocityfan June 27th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    mtu,
    where are we on the Murphy write in campaign? I cringed every time i heard Berman refer to Overbay as the everyday first baseman last night. They have to get a RH platoon partner for him.

  59. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    @Joelsherman1: Former #Yankees Ramiro Pena who has played so well with #Braves needs labrum surgery and is done for the season

  60. astrocityfan June 27th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    is this arod stuff really news? common sense would say the biogenesis story was the final straw, if there was a relationship at all before that. The problem is arod knows the yanks hate him and will now proceed to twist the knife. He isnt going anywhere

  61. jacksquat June 27th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Just move Joba to less important innings and see if he can get his stuff together. Claiborne/Kelley can take his role for now.

  62. blake June 27th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    As Sherman suggests….. The Yanks very well could be trying to delay his return until Bud suspends him. The problem is that they still need a 3B…..so I guess if money and ego matter more than winning……

  63. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Astro-

    I was in error on Murphy. My apologies to all.

    I mistakenly thought he had played some 1st. Thought I’d heard that.

    I doubled-checked it w Chad. He said to the best of his knowledge they only talked about Murphy playing some 1st but he never actually did.

    So I guess we’re still on the lookout.

    Gotta go soon.

    Hike day.

  64. MTU June 27th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Blake-

    Mustelier can take over at 3rd just as soon as he gets healthy.

    He may not be a Brooks Robinson over there but I think he can hit.

  65. Patrick June 27th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    The Yankees are idiots if they don’t want A-rod to come back. When healthy he’s still a productive player, something they don’t have at 3B right now.

    Also I’m not convinced that MLB can suspend A-rod, and especially not for 100 games. He didn’t fail a drug test and the “evidence” they have that he did steroids is circumstantial.

  66. mick June 27th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Is Hughes pitching for his job today?
    Is this why they kept Nova around?
    Will mediocre be good enough?
    They cannot go with a 3 man bench any longer lest Joe remove Ichiro, currently their best hitter, in late inning double switches.

  67. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    This six man rotation, 13 man pitching staff makes me want to scream. It’s a TERRIBLE use of limited roster space. A team struggling to score needs all the match up options possible, not the fewest.

    In essence it’s a two man bench since it appears Austin Romine is in the witness protection program.

  68. mick June 27th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Wells will keep pinchhitting for Stewart and play the OF and Ichiro will keep getting replaced by Romine.

    Not an option.

    Trade Joba for a minor leaguer to open a spot.

  69. mick June 27th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    The other issue is that they will have to start clearing room for Nunez, Jeter, Arod, Grandy and Cervelli soon .

    Either 5 guys are going down, which is impossible, or they will have to start dealing.

    The longer they wait, the less trade value there will be.

    Cash had better get creative ASAP.

  70. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    I do Not see the evidence against A-Rod as circumstantial. If Mlb has the head of Biogenesis claiming he personally injected A-Rod, at that point it comes down the perceived credibility of the witness. My guess is A-Rod is looking to walk away with All his contract money, and use his hips as the medical reason for doing such. A-Rod is gonna need to try some half-assed comeback, and then claim he just can Not play at an MLB level due to his Now reduced physical condition. The trick is doing this Before MLB drops the hammer. Hal’s 1-on-1 with A-Rod yesterday was more a “between the lines” conversation, than a boss calling an employee on the carpet.

  71. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    They need a RH 1B to platoon with Overbay for starters.

  72. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    A-Rod is gonna need to try some half-assed comeback, and then claim he just can Not play at an MLB level due to his Now reduced physical condition.
    =================================
    Which was the reason for the F bomb.
    Arod is just over the top.

  73. ron June 27th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    If mlb is trying to suspend arod saying the biogenesis incident counts as 2 violations,one for lying,and one for a trail of evidence,if proven,then why can’t the Yankees insist on it being the 3rd time by arods admission on using ped’s?

    3 strikes,and yer out.

  74. bruceb June 27th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    As a fan, I pull for the team and hope for success. However, any objective look at the team will tell one this team simply is lacking too many pieces. Far too many.

    _________________

    The 2013 NYY have to be perfect to win a game. That means a quality outing from your starter, shutdown innings from your pen, outstanding defense and Mo converting the save. We had none of those last night so it’s surprising we actually managed to keep the game so close.

    Gone are the days when the offense could compensate for the pitching. Jayson Nix is a decent player to have on your bench but my heart sank when he came up with the bases loaded and one out. We should have scored four of five runs that inning and ended up with two. Team like Texas are going to make you pay.

  75. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Good summary about A-Fraud:

    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1

    Column http://bit.ly/14vdeVI publicly: all’s fine, privately: hatching insurance fraud theories vs. the other. #Yankees/A-Rod a hate story

  76. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    _________________

    The 2013 NYY have to be perfect to win a game.
    ================================
    They will have to be perfecter next year.

  77. Patrick June 27th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    DONNY,

    The only evidence we know of is paperwork indicating that A-rod bought PED’s. That is circumstantial evidence because there is nothing making the connection of him actually using the PED’s. The witness MLB has is supposedly ready to testify that he sold PED’s to A-rod, again circumstantial. If he indicates that he personally injected A-rod, that will be direct evidence. However, this witness’ credibility is pretty weak since he is cutting a deal with MLB – testify in return for them dropping the law suit against him.

    Also I thought the only way a player could be suspended is via a failed drug test? What is the policy for this kind of situation? I don’t think the MLBPA would take this lying down, they will fight any suspensions that result from this biogenesis thing.

  78. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    If I’m the Mgr, there is No way I start Nix at 3B the remainder of the season. He showed he can Not charge a bunt, or retreat on a pop over his head. This Yankee offense is weak, meaning the defense has gotta be strong.

  79. ron June 27th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Manny was suspended by a papertrail,from what I have read.
    No failed test needed.

  80. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Do those who root for Arod actually think he has done nothing wrong?
    I understand innocent to proven guilty but you have to be extremely objective and fair-minded to believe a word he says…

  81. Patrick June 27th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Manny was suspended by a papertrail,from what I have read.
    No failed test needed.

    He was caught twice, both times by failing a drug test.

  82. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    To believe Arod tweeted that on his own is naive.
    He was advised by lawyers that it would be OK IMO.

  83. Patrick June 27th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Do those who root for Arod actually think he has done nothing wrong?
    I understand innocent to proven guilty but you have to be extremely objective and fair-minded to believe a word he says…

    Define “wrong”

    He very likely used drugs banned by MLB drug policy but I don’t care. He would help the team, thus I want him back. Any TRUE yankee fan would agree :)

  84. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Is Gardner hurt? Don’t like the way his leg buckled on that “error” last night.

    Burn After Writing Lineup: Suzuki 8, Nix 6, Cano DH, Wells 9, Almonte 7, Overbay 3, Adams 4, Gonzalez 5, Romine 2, Hughes 1.

  85. blake June 27th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    I would like Arod to go away and Manny Machado to demand a trade to the Yankees

  86. blake June 27th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    @HardballTalk: Manny Machado is on pace for the most doubles of all time http://t.co/U9C7pzYbAY #mlb #hbt

  87. blake June 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    @ESPNNYYankees: Today’s lineup: Suzuki 8 Nix 6 Cano DH Wells 9 Almonte 7 Overbay 3 Adams 4 Gonzalez 5 Romine 3 Hughes RHP

  88. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    mick —-

    Who are you gonna play at 3B? Nix is bad, Adams is worse, Nunez, Alex and Youkilis are all on the DL.

    Nothing Alex did prior to 2004 means anything in terms of MLB and discipline is concerned. I think proof of purchase such as credit card records and/or shipping records to his home would be more than enough for MLB to suspend him.

    This aint a court of law. Circumstantial evidence is more than enough.

  89. Shame Spencer June 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Yeah Manny tested positive for a concealer drug.

    I just wanna win things. I don’t care how we go about it, I just want a better team than the one we have now.

  90. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Patk

    I understand your position and want to see him back.
    If the Yanks are just waiting him out due to outside conditions and he wants to play for his conditions then let him play.
    They are both wrong.

  91. Patrick June 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Nix batting 2 is the dumbest thing

  92. jacksquat June 27th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Patrick, rules say players can’t buy the peds.

  93. pkyankfan69 June 27th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Holy bad line up… This could be a long game with Phil on the mound against the Texas lineup.

  94. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Gonzalez 5 Romine 3 Hughes RHP….thought that said RIP for a second.

  95. yankeefeminista June 27th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Kind of a strange OF considering we have a flyball pitcher pitching… I understand day after night, but I’d want Gardy in there. Que pasa? Is he hurt?

  96. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    The fans that are shelling out hard earned $$$ for tickets to this game are being scammed.

  97. ron June 27th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    “While investigating, MLB obtained documents that indicated Ramirez’s use of hCG, and it was those documents that formally were used to hand down the 50-game suspension”.

    Yes he did fail them,but the documents were used to to suspend him,as mlb is doing with biogenesis now.
    I think we are going to see precedent of this going forward.
    Players will,imo get suspended by a papertrail.

    MLB can discipline a player without a positive test if there is a preponderance of evidence that the person doped or tried to dope. It’s called a “non-analytic positive.” But the ledgers that allegedly connect Rodriguez to the clinic would have to be sworn to under oath by someone with direct knowledge of them. Namely, Bosch himself, who has denied wrongdoing in a brief statement and also through his attorney.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_.....ed-scandal

  98. Hassey June 27th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    right about now, Phil Hughes must feel like he is living underneath an elephant…wearing pinstripes

  99. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    You got a paper trail, AND the Head Honch claiming he Personally injected A-Rod? CASE CLOSED.

  100. 86w183 June 27th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Maybe the game is being played in Tampa

  101. mick June 27th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    the bench is strong today…

  102. luis June 27th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Good morning from NY..

    On Arod-Cashman feud…. I think both sides are playing the media… Cashman should have been fired for such a comment, which means that the owners authorized such kind of talk… Arod wants to play and the Yankees want to collect the insurance money… Arod would be a boost to this offense even at 70-80 % of his capability.

    On Hughes…. I am on his train too… I just don’t expect him to be the ace that he was supposed to become, just a good mid-back of the rotation SP.

  103. ron June 27th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    The cardinals have the best rd in baseball with + 113,and are tied with the pirates for the best record in baseball with a 48-30 record.Yankees have a -3 rd.


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