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Yankees face righty in series finale

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 30, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner CF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Travis Hafner DH
Zoilo Almonte LF
Lyle Overbay 1B
Jayson Nix SS
Chris Stewart C
David Adams 3B

RHP Hiroki Kuroda

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89 Responses to “Yankees face righty in series finale”

  1. tomingeorgia June 30th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Does anyone share my dislike for Sunday Night Baseball games starting at 8:15?

    I think we’re going to go nuts tonight with double-digit hits, a few of them meaningful, with Adams setting the table a time or two. Hope springs eternal for at least a few of us.

  2. Niblick June 30th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    Must be the heat.

  3. fantasygame101 June 30th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Let us see if this team has pride. This another nationally televise game, let me see this team scratch and claw for a win.

  4. ac1 June 30th, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    I think of cano like this.
    Sure he is our best player and the yankees can blow all their money on him.
    As this year has showed us, cano doesnt succeed without equally good playerx around him.
    So what is the point of paying him instead of paying three players?

  5. igotid88 June 30th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
    BTW, as someone alluded to earlier, it was not a vintage performance from young Michael Pineda today vs. the Binghampton Mets: 3 IP 4 H 4 ER 4 BB 2HR.
    ———–

    First half 2011 or Second half vintage?

  6. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    It was not 5 days ago vintage.

    Speaking of 5 days ago, I think that’s the last time the Yankees won a game. :shock:

  7. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Hello guys,

    G Love,

    Read your post on previous thread… How many titles has Detroit won? … I agree that it’s not only through development that teams are built… But at the same time, I can tell you that no Yankee dynasty has won without a homegrown core, aside from the teams of 1977-78… I also understand that it is very lousy to be rooting for a losing team when is rebuilding… But we need new blood…And part of that new blood must come from within…

  8. Niblick June 30th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Pineda was horrible today. You forgot one HBP.

    So much for our surplus of starting pitching. The Yanks have a lot of starters, but only one who’s pitching well.

  9. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    Niblick,

    Every pitcher has a bad day here and there… It is too early to draw conclusions on him…. I wish we could know what his velo was, that is more important right now.

  10. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Since the advent of the amateur draft and free agency, there has only been a single looooong Yankee dynasty since the teams of 1977-78.

    What is the relevance of dynasties from the 20′s through the early 60′s when they were all built under different rules and different circumstances?

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 30th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Tar – I added you to the chart. Of course I would have wanted your prediction added*

    *the reason I post the chart numerous times and ask people to check to make sure their predictions are posted correctly is for the very reason that caused you to tell me your prediction wasn’t on there!

  12. Hankflorida June 30th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Luis, this is what G Love wrote, “The Tigers are the class of the AL and outside of drafting Verlander and developing Avila, they’re not exactly all straight from the Detroit system.”

    Let Hal spend his YES money right now and give away some of his question mark prospects before we blow the next eleven games against the Twins and the Royals and end the season.
    I would even wait till next season if there are no immediate deals that make sense if Hal forgoes
    To get below cap and follows the Tigers template.

  13. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Nick,

    Good point…. But still, they were able to build one right in the middle of those new rules… It can be done again… Further more, the new CBA will force every team to a rebuild every now and then, unfortunately… But on the positive side, i see our current predicament as an opportunity to do exactly that.

    About your post on previous thread… It doesn’t matter how many players came from within… The heart of the team was homegrown…Let’s say 40 to 50 per cent of the regular lineup?

  14. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    I know Hank what G Love wrote… And I raise the question again… How many titles does the Tigers have during that span?…. IMO, they are pretty much like the Yankees of the 1980′s…. All stars and no bite… If they do what you suggest, they probably will delay the inevitable, with little to show for it… Like we did in the 80′s

  15. ac1 June 30th, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    I love that people are slurping the tigers. They are in a wear division, freat starting pitching and a beastof a lineup. They are 1 game better than a yankee team with 10 starters on the dl.

  16. ac1 June 30th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    A weaker division

  17. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Yes, they were able to build the magical core under the current system — after being really bad for several years. They didn’t build up the dynasty while in the midst of another dynasty run.

    A homegrown core is great if it happens to be comprised of a combination of HOF locks and borderline HOF players. Getting new homegrown players of that caliber while still making the playoffs every year would be quite a feat.

  18. fantasygame101 June 30th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    this team can not even decide who among the group of nova, phelps or hughes is going to be bump off the rotation so one pitcher can be sent down already or traded.

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 30th, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Two ironies, back to back and belly to belly.

    I was driving along and decided to put on WEEI. I forgot all about the Sux game; it was the 8th inning with the Sux leading 4-3. Sux broadcasters mentioned that Uehara would be in to close out the 9th, and I got a sick feeling. I think you who know me know that my nature is never to worry. But I have mentioned several times that I wasn’t thrilled that the Sux picked up Uehara. The guy can pitch.

    Irony #1 – Cut to the 9th, and Joey Bats comes up and hits one out and ties the score. It makes me chuckle (but still not move away from being less-than-thrilled that the Sux have Uehara in their arsenal, by the way.)

    Bottom of the 9th, and Sux have 2 on, so the Jays bring in Janssen. Victorino is up and hits a grounder to first, as the broadcaster is mundanely announcing it and I’m anticipating a DP – and all of a sudden he goes crazy as he announces that the ball “ate up” the 1B Thole, and then goes on to explain that Thole was in there because Lind “himself not a Gold Glover at first” had left the game earlier with back spasms. Thole gets the error, Sux win the game.

    Irony #2 – Game is lost on an error at the position that, hell, “Anyone can play”.

    Uh, yeah.

  20. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    Yes, they were able to build the magical core under the current system — after being really bad for several years. They didn’t build up the dynasty while in the midst of another dynasty run.

    A homegrown core is great if it happens to be comprised of a combination of HOF locks and borderline HOF players. Getting new homegrown players of that caliber while still making the playoffs every year would be quite a feat.

    =========================

    Nick,

    They did it in just 5 years… From 1990 to 1995… It can be done, but yes we need a little luck and a chance to get elite talent to do so… I am confident that with the right management and investing on the farm ( Scouting, Talent and coaching ), it can be done… A team with the resources the Yankees have with a structure gear to produce talent could be formidable

  21. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    Nick,

    Will you watch the Confederations Cup?

  22. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    So we’re just a few losing seasons and one competent GM/better owner away from acquiring and developing a new Bernie/Jeter/Pettitte/Posada/Mo?

  23. Niblick June 30th, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    Sometimes you have to look at the competition.

    Pineda had good games against Lakeland and Brevard County in the FSL. Those two teams have the two worst OPS in the league.

    He had a good game against Erie in the EL. Erie has the worst OPS in the league.

    He’s atrocious against Binghamton, which has the second highest OPS in the league.

    That tells me he’s ready for really crappy low level minor league teams, and that’s about all for now.

  24. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    I will watch at least the first half of the CC, might leave early to make it to an undisclosed location across an unnamed bridge, where I will be watching the Yanks this evening.

  25. ron June 30th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    If we are going too end up in last place,or close,and march a lineup out like we are doing,why shouldn’t we have traded cano,granderson,hughes this past offseason when I even saw this coming,except maybe tex getting hurt.
    We knew we couldn’t spend much.We knew 2014 was going too be a tough year,and we knew our stars were declining.
    We could of gotten 2 top prospects for cano,one each for hughes,and granderson,even if hughes got us a ss prospect,like a segura,before he took off.
    We can’t operate like this.
    We would of had a nice 3b,ss,2b,and either a p,or outfield prospect,closer to the majors than a draft pick,and we could of signed a few free agents too stay competitive,and would of had a better team,and be set up much,much better for the future,with only cc,tex,arod signed longterm,with maybe being able to get arod to retire,if he hurts his hip again.

    Now I know it is easier said,but I was talking about doing this well before the offseason.

  26. comnsnse June 30th, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    The Yankees have won 7 WS since 1977, no one has won more.

    The core group developed in the early 90′s supplemented with a few judicious acquisitions was the only time they could be referred to as a dynasty.

    That dynasty came with a much different leadership group headed by George and Stick.

    There is no such leadership group in place at the moment.

    Therefore the question becomes who leads……………….and hopefully who goes!

  27. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
    So we’re just a few losing seasons and one competent GM/better owner away from acquiring and developing a new Bernie/Jeter/Pettitte/Posada/Mo?

    ==================================

    Sort of ;)… At least with the owner not meddling on baseball operations and an experienced GM in building franchises… Yes, i don’t think Cashman is the man for such undertaking… He appears not to know how to do it… Granted, in his tenure he hasn’t have the access to elite talent. I could be wrong on this, because if you take in to account the usual place where we draft, I think they have done a pretty good job…. But they need to improve the coaching.

    I think you will be able to watch both… You will have about half an hour before the Yankees game starts

  28. luis June 30th, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    comnsnse June 30th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
    The Yankees have won 7 WS since 1977, no one has won more.

    The core group developed in the early 90?s supplemented with a few judicious acquisitions was the only time they could be referred to as a dynasty.

    That dynasty came with a much different leadership group headed by George and Stick.

    There is no such leadership group in place at the moment.

    Therefore the question becomes who leads……………….and hopefully who goes!

    =========================

    I agree with this except with the notion that George had anything to do with it… it was when he was banned that the Dynasty was built… He did have the common sense to respect the basics at first, but then he went back to his old ways and the team suffered as result of this… He started by firing Watson

  29. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    I think a better modern historic lesson is that it’s possible to have a competitive team while simultaneously building up a group of younger players to integrate later on. The 1994-95 teams didn’t have too many of the players we consider to be the core of the Dynasty teams but they were still solid clubs.

    But once again those teams were built up after a long period of losing, not during an era of playoff-caliber teams.

    Unfortunately, the Yankees could go into the tank for years and years and still never find a new Jeter/Posada/Mo. That kind of group will probably never come along again.

  30. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Unfortunately, the Yankees could go into the tank for years and years and still never find a new Jeter/Posada/Mo. That kind of group will probably never come along again.

    =============================

    Yes

  31. G. Love June 30th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    luis,

    Where you and I part ways is that I don’t think just playing younger makes them turn into stars. I think the minor league system has merits and these guys need to earn each step of their promotion. You just can’t say A ball and AA ball guys are better than what we have. And playing them doesn’t make them reach their potential.

    I subscribe to the theory that you have to do something for 10,000 hours or so to be really good at it. Phenoms are one thing – guys like Trout, Jeter burst onto the scene and never leave.

    But thinking that the answers lie already in our system is dangerous thinking that can set this team back decades.

    The Tigers may not win world series, but they have a solid team and the majority of it is from shrewd moves from the GM. Knowing which prospects to deal. Knowing which free agents to sign. They may end up having to pay the piper someday, but they have built a contender who is a closer short of being one of the top teams in the game.

    Their GM sees Miggy Cabrera on the market and pounced. Ours sees that kind of player come up and talks about process and garbage and makes excuses why we don’t make the big moves when it’s all a smokescreen for an owner whose goal is just save $ to make more $.

    The fact that all the AA OF’ers aren’t lighting up the league should be a sobering reminder that it takes time for these guys to get here and in some cases they never get here. Yeah, one or two may make it up, but depending on that and waiting for that makes little sense to me when all you need is a hot team at the end of the season to win a title these days.

    I just think there’s a lot of projection going on here re: prospects that look years away.

    Fans may say that they are truly willing to punt the next 3 seasons and hope each one of those guys turn into gold, but going through 3-4 seasons of horrible baseball is soul crushing when your team charges the most and prints money.

    Something has to give and they need to self scout and trade some of the guys for now players.

    I just don’t think we have the right man running the show to self scout.

  32. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Another thing Nick…. I don’t think this team is a play-offs caliber team… Nor I think next year’s team will be either

    GOL!!!

  33. ron June 30th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Drafting,developing players is key here.
    The cardinals seem too turn every no name into a serviceable player.
    We have not one single league average player we can call up too fill a hole.
    We need people in place that know how too build a winning team under the new cba reality,not people who just know how too write checks.
    Trade the players like cano that wan’t arod type deals when they are nearing 31 yrs old,and that will get you top picks that you don’t get in the draft.
    Also,we simply can’t get it wrong in the draft.

    Cano,granderson,hughes,phelps,nova,pineda,joba,logan are all trade possibilities.
    Wells,ichiro,youk were all mistakes.Giving ichiro 2 years was a mistake.
    We could of gotten even more prospects if we included joba,logan,and one,or two more.

  34. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    It’s kind of odd and cool that Brazil has a player whose name is simply Fred.

  35. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    “I don’t think this team is a play-offs caliber team”

    I think it is a playoff-caliber team in the same sense that the 2008 team was a playoff-caliber team. We’ll see if they actually make it.

    No predictions for 2014.

  36. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    I believe in a 3 pronged attack to success:

    1) Strategic trades using our excess in areas of strength to strengthen areas of weakness.

    2) Farm development- keeping only the very best of our system.

    3) FA acquisitions to fill holes.

  37. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Fred is still on the loose… and watch out for Oscar!

  38. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    The devil is in the details, MTU.

  39. Rich in NJ June 30th, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    “Getting new homegrown players of that caliber while still making the playoffs every year would be quite a feat.”

    Only Jeter was a top pick of that group, and one thing is certain. If you don’t draft well, develop well, and show patience on the ML, you have no chance to have homegrown players.

    Other teams draft high end player after the first round, so it can be done.

    And they don’t have an annual budget of $200m+ that can be used to offset the growing pains of one or two homegrown players integrated on to the ML roster every year.

    The Yankees didn’t even attempt it despite their advantages.

    Now, they are paying the price.

  40. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Absolutely Nick.

    It assumes various things.

    For example, that we are excellent at self-scouting.

    It has been done around Yankeeland before.

    It can be done again.

  41. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Sounds ominous.

  42. G. Love June 30th, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Rich,

    Dead on there. They could have used the payroll to buy up the Cubans and Darvish and still worked in prospects and been a dynasty for the next decade.

    What happened here is nothing short of a catastrophic mismanagement that goes against the principles that built this team into a 3-4 billion asset.

  43. ron June 30th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    You can’t have no options in the minors for a few years with a declining team,while restraining your spending.
    We will have great players come out of our farm system soon.Every team always produces a stud player,but some more than others,and more often.
    I like sanchez,and jr murphy is killing it in aa.
    We need at least one pitching star,and 2,maybe 3 solid position players to anchor 3 positions for years.
    We could of let other teams do the drafting dirty work,developing,then trade for 4 of them by using hughes,granderson,cano,joba,logan,etc…Give me a stud 3b prospect,and p prospect for cano,and pineda,maybe a third prospect.Give me a good ss prospect for hughes,and a good 2b prospect for granderson.
    I think that is reasonable when a half year of beltran got wheeler who was one of the top prospects in baseball,or one of the top pitching prospects.
    Finish in last place this year,and get the top pick.
    Clear payroll in a few years,and spend,spend,spend.

    The mets have Harvey,wheeler,darnaud,flores,the stud 3b prospect,and another stud p prospect they got in the dickey trade,plus more decent prospects.

  44. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    G. Love-

    Sounds like it’s time for changes at the top.

    A fish rots from the head down.

    ;)

  45. SoS June 30th, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Lets be real folks. We will never see 5 homegrown players that are near or are hofers come up at one time. Best reliever ever. Shortstop ever. On of the best hitting catchers and lefties ever. There was a lot of luck involved. From jeter not getting traded an injury at short with some patience for the rookie. A failed starter who increased his velocity a couple notches and found a home in the pen. To bernie not signing with sox. Pettittes extreme work ethic that might have been helped by clemens trade. Sprinkle some great trades and free agents.
    Lots a luck.
    We need to quit thinking with our hearts and more with our heads.(front office)
    Tex should have been told to stfu with his I’m not changing my swing. Coming out and saying that he’s here for ribis and hr not avg was out of line and a slap in our face. Jete can’t be relied on to be our shortstop. Arod our 3b.. cano needs the door to hit him on way out looking for more than 5 years. Trade him now. It seems the front office has went twenty too many times for lightning in a bottle.
    Time to trade some players and plug in some empty positions with them. Stop sitting on our hands hoping the name on the front of the jerseys gives these has beens and never was super powers. Our bar has dropped considerably. We are arguing about ichiro protcting cano. A couple years ago his numbers wouldn’t even be a 4th outfielder on this team. Same with wells. Nix would not have played more than 30 games.
    I don’t have all the answers. What I do know is its timeto make some bold moves and be the evil empire we once were. Money is power. Use it!!

  46. G. Love June 30th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    MTU,

    Unfortunately, I don’t think ownership is changing. I think Hal secretly has a death wish for the franchise and the tradition. Maybe his Father ignored him too much choosing the Yankees over playing Abacus with Hal in the Steinbrenner study.

  47. Ys Guy June 30th, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    yasiel puig needs a higher league.

  48. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    G. Love June 30th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    luis,

    Where you and I part ways is that I don’t think just playing younger makes them turn into stars. I think the minor league system has merits and these guys need to earn each step of their promotion. You just can’t say A ball and AA ball guys are better than what we have. And playing them doesn’t make them reach their potential.

    I subscribe to the theory that you have to do something for 10,000 hours or so to be really good at it. Phenoms are one thing – guys like Trout, Jeter burst onto the scene and never leave.

    But thinking that the answers lie already in our system is dangerous thinking that can set this team back decades.

    ============================

    G Love,

    I agree with your take about the farm and the risk involved in relying solely on the farm… Especially with our current management… I do believe that it is a combination of three things: 1) A good homegrown core ( which means a good and strong farm ), 2) shrewd trades ( the need for a strong farm is obvious as well here ) and 3) Good FA signings… It is a combination of the three that makes a strong team… But in every dynasty the core or heart of the team was homegrown.

    My point is not that our current farm is the answer ( maybe it isn’t )… Just that we need to start a rebuilding and turn the page on the recent past…That rebuilding might involve Homegrown talent, traded talent and FA talent… it means having the patience to let the prospects have their growning pains, it means trade the right prospects for the right kind of talent and it means sign FA’s that add value to the ecuation. Not just get young for the sake of it… My point was and is that we can no longer rely on old have beensandwe have reached a point when we need to move on for the sake of the long term success of the team.

    I don’t want this team to be like the one we had in the mid 00′s… when our farm couldn’t bring anything of worth and we had to rely on the Chacon’s or Small’s of the world… Or when we traded Ajax for instant gratification ( Granderson )… We need to have a competent management that evaluates the keepers from the trade bate… I want to have the team we had in the late 90′s where we had the best team and the best farm at the same time.

    If going back to the above mention means a couple or even three bad seasons, so be it.

  49. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    “Lets be real folks. We will never see 5 homegrown players that are near or are hofers come up at one time.”

    Hello!

  50. Ys Guy June 30th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    darvish finally wins a game (first win since mid may)

  51. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    G.Love-

    I’ve thought Hal will be a seller for a while now.

    I’d love to be right on that one.

    Maybe the Team goes back to someone with a passion for winning and a fire in their belly, and the means to make it happen.

    I know. There I go again. Dreaming.

  52. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    “Oscar should be in the book, really.”

  53. SoS June 30th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Can I add that the rays sucked for years and got top picks during that time. Still isn’t close to having a fab 5 like we did. Trades, free agents and a couple up and comers is more realistic. Perfect year to reload. Pull the trigger cash.

  54. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    “This might be set up for the left foot of Hulk.”

  55. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Nick there is another Brazilian player called “Hulk”

  56. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    They just ate a big goal there, great pass by Neymar

  57. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    SoS June 30th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
    Can I add that the rays sucked for years and got top picks during that time. Still isn’t close to having a fab 5 like we did. Trades, free agents and a couple up and comers is more realistic. Perfect year to reload. Pull the trigger cash.

    ========================

    Perfect year to rebuild bro ;)

  58. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Brazil needs to have the ball… They are retreating their lines too early

  59. SoS June 30th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Hermano.
    Yankees don’t rebuild. We RELOAD. Stop being so attached with prospects. Ledee got us justice which equalled a title. Rivera the future hof did nothing and got caught with his hands in the cookie jar. I looked at them as trading cards. Trade them for something you like or need. Keep the rest till you feel like moving them or putting them in a frame.

  60. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Luis-

    I think a lot more pain would have to be inflicted before they go that route.

  61. G. Love June 30th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    The thing that makes improving through trades difficult is that the caliber of players that would pop up in the past aren’t hitting the market.

    That said, if Stanton hits the market the Yankees should just call up Florida and say, “write down any 5 names you want”.

    He’s the closest thing to a franchise player that will hit the market in the coming years. He’s Miguel Cabrera and if we let another team take him without pushing to the edge for him, it’s going to sting because he’s not in our system.

    I’m not interested in former franchise guys over 30. The Yankees have to hold out hope they can deal for the goods if the goods ever hits the market.

    For this season, I’d take fliers on guys like Morneau and any other high priced talent from a team who wants to shed $. Those are the only trades Cashman can make.

    Churn this roster with the exception of Gardner and Cano. There are no keepers on this current team. Take away Girardi’s woobies in Nix and Stewart and take shots on other players with more upside. If you let Girardi have steady Eddie’s who just show up to play with no real ceiling, he falls in love with those guys.

    I’d try to get Morneau at 1b. I’d try to get Cuddyer from Colorado – they’re going nowhere without Tulo. I’d go find a real catcher or promote Murphy. Romine shouldn’t be in the majors.

    There are moves that can be made, but hiding under the blanket of “process” or the “price is too high for us” is loser speak. That’s Theo-run Red Sox speak. Without a change in direction, we’re headed where they were a couple of seasons ago.

    What got them out was clearing the payroll and signing players past 1 year.

    I’d kill for Napoli on this team right about now.

  62. Ys Guy June 30th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    the 189 plan is dead. they will bring in a name at the TD and blow the budget.

  63. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Y’s-

    I hope you are 1000% correct.

    From your mouth to Hal’s ears.

  64. ron June 30th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    You don’t need 5 great homegrown playersat once.
    3 will do.
    The rs have Iglesias,nava,and Lavarnway that are just up from their system,and i’m not talking about pedroia,lester because they finished in last place in 2012.
    Lavarnway only has 14 ab this year,iglesias 128,nava a lot more.The rest were fa signings,and carryover players.
    They Wen’t from last to first by signing mostly free agents,and only a few players from their system are having a significant impact.Mainly nava,and Iglesias,but they are both killing it.
    I find it very hard to believe that we can’t do the same,even if we trade for the players we can’t develop from our system.

    They are winning with names like lavarnway,napoli,Saltalamacchia,carp,diaz,drew,iglesias,nava,ortiz,pedroia,snyder,ellsbury,gomes,victorino.

    Color me unimpressed.But what they did do is unload all their bad contracts,chemistry,and turned their roster over.

  65. Ys Guy June 30th, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    down go the cards. pirates go to extras and will keep the best record in baseball no matter the outcome!

  66. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    SoS June 30th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
    Hermano.
    Yankees don’t rebuild. We RELOAD. Stop being so attached with prospects. Ledee got us justice which equalled a title. Rivera the future hof did nothing and got caught with his hands in the cookie jar. I looked at them as trading cards. Trade them for something you like or need. Keep the rest till you feel like moving them or putting them in a frame.

    ==============================

    When we got Justice we had a core in place bro ;) Different times… There isn’t the players out there to do what you suggest… Most of the really good players are not availabe… More and more players are getting extended through their primes… So we will end up paying for past production of fading players… We need to have the flexibility …I am not saying that we need to rely solely on the farm…. As the really good teams we need balance ;)

    What a save, I thought that was the equalizer

  67. G. Love June 30th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    ron,

    Spot on. The difference is, we don’t have guys at AA and AAA to fill roles. We really don’t.

    We have to trade for them.

  68. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Ron-

    And exactly how many dumb Teams like the Dodgers do you think are out there ?

    The Sux got incredibly lucky.

    It’s extremely unlikely we’ll see something like that again anytime soon.

    ;)

  69. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    GOLLLLLL!!!!!

  70. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Nobody could have predicted that the Spanish side that beat Tahiti 10-0 would get pushed around by Brasil.

  71. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Even if you threw in Cano.

    How many Teams have the desire and/or financial wherewithal to take on A-Rod, Tex, etc. ?

    I’d say none. Certainly none who would take that combo of players and costs.

  72. ron June 30th, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    It is just not wise too sign cano for even remotely near what arod got,and that is what he wan’ts,and you are hearing that it is more likely he hits fa.
    You simply have to get a busload of talent for him.
    You can’t let him walk away.
    If you can get him for 6/144,fine,if not,trade him.

  73. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    Nobody could have predicted that the Spanish side that beat Tahiti 10-0 would get pushed around by Brasil.

    ===========================

    Brazil is playing in his home turf…. They are very hard to beat there

  74. SoS June 30th, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Glove,
    A decade ago teams would have laughed in our face giving them 5 names for options. We didn’t even have 2legit prospect names. Front office needs to quit reliving that chick that dumped them/broke their heart(failed international signings and big at home signings). Get back on the horse ask 5 chicks out hoping a couple say yes.

  75. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    When have the Yankees traded away a star caliber player in his prime like Cano for prospects ?

  76. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Yes, I think the announcer said that Brazil has not lost a home match in a competition that counted since… 1975 (when they lost to the Big Red Machine and goals from Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, and Dave Conception, if I recall correctly).

  77. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Nick,

    LOL!! Actually 1950 the World Cup final against Uruguay 2-1 after leading 1-0 ( Maracanazo)… Hundreds killed themselves that day. Seriously

  78. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    The Yankees will either sign Cano or he’ll walk for a draft pick.

  79. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    No way they were going to punt 2013 and rebuild.

    Maybe if Mo decided to retire instead of come back and Jeter and Tex and Granderson all said they weren’t coming back at all this year and Arod signed up for Twitter last year instead of this year, but otherwise no no no.

  80. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    MTU June 30th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
    Luis-

    I think a lot more pain would have to be inflicted before they go that route.

    ================================

    Maybe so…. But with the new set of rules it should be obvious to them that the model needs to change

  81. Ys Guy June 30th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    caballo savaje at the dish, everything else stops in elay!

  82. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    “Hundreds killed themselves that day. Seriously”

    These days they wouldn’t kill themselves, they would log on to the LoHud World Cup Blog and hellloooooooo, never mind. :oops:

  83. luis June 30th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Nick,

    It will depend on the next few days… But if they don’t think they can make it, they should punt it and start

  84. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Girardi is ladling out the Kool-Aid, come drink with me :arrow:

  85. ron June 30th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    You can live with cc,tex,but cc,tex,arod,and cano,all while declining is going to make it near impossible because now you absolutely need help from the farm system because you can’t spend,so if you don’t get the help,you are done,just like now.

  86. MTU June 30th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Luis-

    I’m betting that the Yankees believe they have a plan.

    Funny as that may sound.

    It may not be your plan or my plan but I have no doubt one exists.

  87. luis June 30th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
    “Hundreds killed themselves that day. Seriously”

    These days they wouldn’t kill themselves, they would log on to the LoHud World Cup Blog and hellloooooooo, never mind.

    =====================================

    Here is what i don’t get… What I am saying is not doom and gloom bro… I think it’s actually hopeful

  88. Nick in SF June 30th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    That wasn’t a slam against you, luis. :arrow:

  89. baskets jordan August 28th, 2014 at 1:52 am

    Ugg Australia Originali

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