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Postgame notes: “I think these guys are fighting every day”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 01, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Vernon Wells, Matt Wieters

By now, we’re all familiar with Joe Girardi’s personality. He’s a loyal man, a patient man. He rarely shows frustration, and he never publicly vents at his players. Tonight was no different.

“I know it’s important and I understand, but this is a game,” Girardi said. “There are a lot of things that go on in life that are struggles that you go through and you have to figure out how to go through them. This is like life. Everything is not going to be easy, and you find ways to get through it. And I’m not going to get frustrated, and I’m going to stick up for them.”

Does it ever occur to him that he might not have the players to turn this thing around and start winning again?

“I’ll never think that way,” he said. “I didn’t think that way when I took over a bunch of young kids in Miami, and I’ll never think that way. I believe if you have a uniform on, you have a chance to produce and you’ve got a chance to go to the playoffs and win a World Series.”

Is there any chance his players are starting to feel that way?

“Look at the last inning,” Girardi said. “These guys are fighting, so I don’t think so. I don’t see it. I think these guys are fighting every day. I really do. When they make outs, they get upset and they get upset with themselves. The passion is there.”

Obviously Girardi’s “I believe in my guys” routine has grown old, but I’m honestly not sure what else he could or should say. This roster is full of two kinds of hitters: Veterans who are set in their ways, and rookies who are just trying to stick around. Which of those groups would be impacted by a fiery, over-the-top speech from a manager? These aren’t players in their prime who are underperforming and phoning it in. The only guys really in their “prime” are Brett Gardner and Robinson Cano, and those are the only two hitters doing anything on a consistent basis.

This is a team with five all-stars on the disabled list, and — surprise! — that’s hard to overcome.

“We don’t doubt ourselves,” Vernon Wells said. “We don’t lose faith in what we can do. I think given the fact that we were doing it early in the year shows that we’re capable of doing it. We just have to get back to doing it.”

Hiroki Kuroda• I’m sure Hiroki Kuroda didn’t mean to phrase it this way, but this is what he said about trying to pitch knowing the offense is struggling. “In this ballpark, a hitters’ ballpark, if I was able to stop those three homers and then not give up the fourth run, maybe the momentum would shift and the offense would pick me up.” So, basically, if he’d thrown a shutout, the offense would have had a chance to score enough runs to win the game. That’s essentially what he said.

• Kuroda said it was his slider that most let him down tonight. He’s now allowed five home runs in his past two starts. He’s allowed a total of seven homers in his other 15 starts. “Tonight, it was more just that his stuff wasn’t breaking,” Chris Stewart said. “The first slider to Machado was just right down the middle. It just spun, stayed up, and he hit it well. To Davis, it wasn’t a bad pitch. The curveball to McLouth just rolled in there. It wasn’t that sharp. It’s unfortunate that those balls went out of the yard, because if they stayed in the yard, it’s a whole different game. But that’s just the breaks we’re getting right now.”

• Stewart said Kuroda found his split around the third inning, and that’s what let him eventually pitch through the sixth. Initially, Stewart admitted, it didn’t look like Kuroda would last that long.

• The Yankees had a handful of scoring opportunities. Bases loaded in the second. Two on with one out in the seventh, and again in the ninth. They were 0-for-6 with runners in scoring position. “There’s nights where we have a lot of good at-bats but maybe put up three or four runs,” Travis Hafner said. “If we can just get a big knock, you’re looking at six, seven, eight runs or something like that. Overall, I think our at-bats are pretty good. I think one or two hits here or there would make a big difference.”

• Hafner also said this: “We know that we should be swinging the bats better.”

• Girardi tried to use Wells as a late pinch hitter, but it didn’t lead to anything. There really aren’t many situational pinch hitting opportunities with this bench. “You know what you have and you have to deal with it,” Girardi said. “We’ve been dealing with it all year. You know what you have, and you go with it.”

Robinson Cano• Longtime Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts returned from the DL tonight and had his first hit at Camden Yards since June 29, 2012.

• Speaking of second basemen, Robinson Cano went 2-for-4 with a solo homer and is now hitting .366 in his career at Camden Yards. He’s hitting .428 in this stadium since August 22, 2008. He’s a career .526 hitter against Chris Tillman.

• Stewart kind of took a beating tonight with a hit by a pitch and a backswing that hit him, but he said he’s fine. “Felt a little bruising sensation the for the next few innings, but then it went away a little while after,” Stewart said. “It’s fine now.”

• Jim Johnson got his 100th career save tonight. Mariano Rivera called it “adorable.” Actually, he didn’t say that at all, but I like to imagine that’s what he’d think.

• This was the Orioles first three-game series sweep of the season. It was the first time they’d swept the Yankees in Baltimore since April of 2005. Since July 29, 2012, the Orioles have the best winning percentage in baseball and the most wins.

• Final word goes to Wells: “You look back at what we were able to accomplish early in the season and there’s no reason why we can’t get back to that. We just need to get back to doing it. That’s obviously going to take our starting pitching continuing to do what they’re doing, our defense continuing to play well behind them and start getting timely hitting from up and down the lineup like we were early in the year. If we’re able to do that, then we’ll find ourselves in better position than 6 1/2 back.”

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68 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I think these guys are fighting every day””

  1. jacksquat July 1st, 2013 at 12:39 am

    Yeah, they’re fighting.

    Problem is we have welterweights in the ring with heavyweights.

  2. G. Love July 1st, 2013 at 12:40 am

    I think they are fighting. I also think they’re not good enough to win consistently.

    Adding Grandy, Cervelli and Jeter to this bunch isn’t going to fix everything but it will help.

    I have no idea what Arod will bring or if he’s just playing insurance games.

    But those players are weeks and maybe a month or more away.

    Yes, Girardi, they are fighting. But they will not play above their heads any longer. Teams are starting to gel/click and make their moves while we hope for hit batsmen, walks, wild pitches to score.

    You can’t play every night hoping for Nixy or Stewie to take someone deep.

    The team needs help. Do the owners care?

    I don’t think so.

  3. fantasygame101 July 1st, 2013 at 12:43 am

    fortunately this fight does not cost lifes. If it does, it will cost a lot of lifes bec. the commander does not realize that they are overmatch and will not reinforce with better and more equip personnel.

  4. Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 12:43 am

    If Arod is just playing insurance games, is he going to try to get the phone number of the girl from 4E in that State Farm commercial?

  5. G. Love July 1st, 2013 at 12:45 am

    Nick,

    Depends how muscular she is without her clothes on.

  6. Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 12:48 am

    I kind of like the one where the guy dangles the dollar with a fishing pole.

  7. Against All Odds July 1st, 2013 at 12:48 am

    G. Love July 1st, 2013 at 12:19 am

    ————————-

    Yea those yrs were pretty bad.

  8. Rich in NJ July 1st, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Their effort is fine, which is a credit to Girardi, and unless he was in favor of the awful offseason moves, it’s not on him.

  9. Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 12:53 am

    According to internet sources, the girl from 4E is named Holly Lynch and “is best known for being the girl in the music video for “Your Body Is A Wonderland”, where she is thoroughly molested by John Mayer.”

  10. jacksquat July 1st, 2013 at 12:55 am

    Everything points to ownership not wanting to spend.

    They seem hell bent on getting out of Arod’s contract. Cashman probably wants to get out from under it also, so he can field a team without overpaying one player 15-20 mil (not including HR bonuses) while trying to lower payroll 30+ mil and still field a winning team. This pressure is probably why he dropped the STFU.

    Tex said his wrist hurt only when he swung lefthanded. His surgery rehab is only 4-5 months, he could do that in the offseason. So why not have him at least play righthanded, which they desperately need? Answer? They’d rather just have insurance pay his contract for the rest of the year?

    Aramis Ramirez: “too expensive”

    It seems like ownership is trying to stay in the hand, but they don’t want to bet. They need to either go all in or fold.

    I wish they would just sell the team to Cuban.

  11. G. Love July 1st, 2013 at 1:00 am

    With Tex, it’s stubbornness and a refusal to try something different that could make him more effective vs RHP. I don’t think he’s trying all that hard despite what people think of him.

    That’s not the case with this group. They are all trying. They just aren’t good enough right now.

    Maybe with another 150 at bats, Adams becomes a hitter. But you can’t keep giving games up by putting empty holes in the batting order hoping tonight’s the night. He’s a corner. You get nothing from your corners night in night out, you may as well give up.

    Watch the media this week – if the struggles continue and you start to hear stories about Cano not being realistic in contract talks and being far apart from the Yankees $ wise, then the Yankees are getting ready to sell their players off and preparing the fans for it.

    Believe it or not, if it came to selling, I wonder if they’d ask Mo if he wanted to go chase one more ring with another team and then let the teams empty their farms for him.

    Detroit and Boston might give up some serious stuff for a Mariano Rivera rental.

    It would kill me to ever see him in another uniform and most likely would never happen, but if they ever become sellers, he’s the guy you could get the most for at the deadline.

    If that ever happened, I’d have to give up baseball for awhile.

  12. Rich in NJ July 1st, 2013 at 1:05 am

    “Everything points to ownership not wanting to spend.”

    They are spending $230m this season. They have spent around $200m since 2005.

    Everything points to the money being misspent.

  13. Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 1:06 am

    I guess anything is possible, but I’d put a lot more money on them gutting the farm for Stanton/etc. than even contemplating trading Mo.

  14. Rich in NJ July 1st, 2013 at 1:06 am

    They won’t trade Mo.

  15. Jerkface July 1st, 2013 at 1:07 am

    Rich,

    They are spending 200 mil this season, but in previous seasons (before 2010) they made big money commitments, which is real spending. You can spend 200 mil each year but if its all on 1 year contracts your team ain’t gonna be very good.

    They have both misspent AND stopped spending on contracts that affect 2014 (outside of Ichiro! for some reason[we know the reason]) which equals = bad team

  16. G. Love July 1st, 2013 at 1:07 am

    I hope if they punt this season they don’t even consider it. I doubt Mo would want to do it anyway.

    But he is the most valuable trade deadline piece they own. You’d get more for him than Cano in my estimation.

  17. jacksquat July 1st, 2013 at 1:12 am

    I should have said “not wanting to spend more“.

    It’s Mariano’s last year, maybe Andy too, possibly even Jeter, give them a real lineup, not this mess. Open the damn checkbook, you can be cheap next year.

  18. jacksquat July 1st, 2013 at 1:14 am

    I don’t want to see Mo in another uniform. I don’t care what they could get for him. That would be more sad than this lineup.

  19. G. Love July 1st, 2013 at 1:14 am

    jacksquat,

    I think it’s too late. The only players they could potentially open the checkbook for are guys like Morneau, Soriano, Ethier, etc. Guys with huge contract commitments for the remainder of the year or beyond.

    That’s the only checkbook opening possible and they won’t take on anyone past this year.

  20. jacksquat July 1st, 2013 at 1:25 am

    There must be some good players in the last year of their contract whose teams are looking to offload the money. Or players where the contract is such that they could trade them after the season was over. Chase Utley. Aramis Ramirez. There must be others.

  21. Ys Guy July 1st, 2013 at 1:37 am

    working down from the top:
    you cant move arod’s contract or tex’s
    next is cc’s. can he be moved? would he waive his ntc for some incentive (read $)? if he has a great july can he bring back anything?

    id say his salary and his ntc as well as his mediocre PS stats prevent this, but you’ve got to be sure it’s not doable before you dismiss it. the bosox found a sucker for beckett.

  22. Rich in NJ July 1st, 2013 at 1:38 am

    Jerkface

    They have spent way more than enough money (if it had been spent correctly) to be able to integrate one or two cost-controlled young players from the mL on to the roster every year.

    If the expensive veterans product, they can offset the growing pains of the young players.

    In turn, the young players could provide added benefit, if they develop, to enable a team to spend more money by reducing the overall payroll over time.

    Cashman has articulated that strategy since 2005.

    The problem is that they can’t draft/develop much talent.

    btw Cots has this figure: 2013: $228,106,125

  23. balotin July 1st, 2013 at 1:43 am

    One point that is being overlooked when the teams total payroll is discussed is that the Yankees no longer have the income they had in the past. The big money is produced by the YES network but Hal and Hank sold off a large chunk of it to Murdoch who has an option for the rest. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is planning on having Fox sports buy the team in the future but the payroll will be much lower in the near future to match the income while still being able to spin out a profit. This is a new era where other ownership groups now have the ability to outspend the Yankees. Also take into account the tax situation in NY compared to other areas like Texas and its going to get harder to attract free agents.

  24. sunny615 July 1st, 2013 at 1:47 am

    Ah to suck and be oblivious. Good think girardi. If you don’t believe you suck maybe it’ll eventually happen. The marlins tried that too and they were … Less than successful.

  25. Ys Guy July 1st, 2013 at 1:50 am

    fox isnt buying the yankees. thier ownership of the dodgers was a first class disaster that both fox and mlb couldnt wait to get out of.

  26. Dill Pickler July 1st, 2013 at 2:21 am

    What do you expect Girardi to say? “The players we have right now suck”??? The guys he has to come to work with every day, and put in the lineup because there’s no one else right now? Of course he’s going to have their backs, because that’s what managers/ballplayers do. He’s not going to admit they’re awful, and maybe he doesn’t even see that they’re incapable of doing any better, because he’s too close to it. That’s why nobody should care what he says to the media. It’s all b.s. The fact is that trying hard and sucking are not mutually exclusive.

  27. Dill Pickler July 1st, 2013 at 2:31 am

    Honestly, Chad, I don’t think any Yankee fan wants to hear what Vernon Wells has to say anymore. the only words we want to hear out of his mouth are, “I’m retiring.”

  28. sammiejohnson July 1st, 2013 at 3:11 am

    Ys Guy June 30th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    hey, they got jones from seattle which was a great trade even though with jack z you have to grade it on the curve….

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    Hans Davenport June 30th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    I think Tillman came in that trade too. I recall Baltimore also getting George Sherrill. Gave up Bedard. Period.

    _______________________________

    Very true.
    Umm, just one more thing, though….
    Wasn’t Bill Bavasi GM of the Seattle Mariners in Feb. of 2008 when Erik Bedard was traded from Baltimore to Seattle? Was not Bill Bavasi fired by the Mariners’ in June of 2008? Was Jack Zduriencik not hired in October of 2008, long after the Bedard trade?

    Now Jack might be crazy…. But even HE is not crazy enough to give up Adam Jones + four others for Erik Bedard. But then not many are.

  29. Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 3:23 am

    Guy in charge of hiring new GM: So Jack, would you have traded Adam Jones + four others for Erik Bedard?

    Jack Z: No, sir.

    Guy: You’re hired!

  30. sammiejohnson July 1st, 2013 at 3:35 am

    Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 3:23 am
    Guy in charge of hiring new GM: So Jack, would you have traded Adam Jones + four others for Erik Bedard?

    Jack Z: No, sir.

    Guy: You’re hired!

    ____________________________

    Simply pointing out facts not in evidence.

  31. Nick in SF July 1st, 2013 at 3:41 am

    Wasn’t making fun of you, sammiejohnson, just speculating about the rigorous hiring process that brought Jack Z to Seattle after that trade.

  32. PacoDooley July 1st, 2013 at 5:35 am

    So if this team had spent to keep Swisher and Martin (I’m fine ignoring Soriano), where would they be today? I am guessing quite a bit better off since Swish could be playing 1B and RF depending on needs and matchups. I don’t think they would be in 1st, but I could see them hanging onto 2nd and a playoff spot at this time,

  33. JRC July 1st, 2013 at 6:44 am

    I think it’s time to make changes. Cashman out, Gene Micheal come home. Cashman has lost respect among his peers and can’t make a decent trade, minors is a shambles, no decent prospects. Call Loria for Stanton and say take any three you want. Girardi is just hapless, no clue, no imagination. Staff was holding the team together until he started making subtle changes. Girardi out, Pena in. Kevin long out, majors and minors needs hitting coaches who can teach players to hit. Bring in Dereks private hitting coach. It looks like post PED’s era will be lots of low 200 and below averages. Pitchers will be king again.

  34. blake July 1st, 2013 at 7:21 am

    They need to sell…..it’s time.

    Tell cano he’s got one week to sign an extension of he’s being traded..::tell him you’d love to re-sign him in the winter but that it’s time for them to retool.

    Trade them all and play young players…..sometimes you have to sink towards the bottom to rise back to the top.

    I’ve said for awhile now that the Yankees have to choose a lane……there are two ways out of this mess. 1) is to spend their way out 2) is to rebuild on a leaner and more efficient platform.

    Option 1 seems to be off the table because of the owner so option 2 it is.

    The worst place a team can be is stuck in the middle…..no mans land where you aren’t good enough to win titles but you aren’t bad enough to get high draft picks and actually operate the way a team that can’t win should.

    His middle area is where the cubs and mets were for so long …..not good enough to win but get not willing to tear it all down.

    The Yankees have become 2012 phillies essentially…..I wrote back in the winter that I saw a lot of parallels between the two teams and was afraid a similar fate awaited the Yankees and it has. Injures to a neglected offense have mounted and the downward spiral has begun. The philles talked about getting healthy last year and making run……problem is that old players never really get healthy.

    I expect the Yankees to wait for the Calvary to come back and try to buy a bat at the deadline…..I can’t see how it’ll be enough.

    Pick a lane Yankees….the middle gets you nowhere

  35. blake July 1st, 2013 at 7:25 am

    Now 6.5 back in the division and 4 back of the WC…..it’s getting away fast

  36. Mike Ri July 1st, 2013 at 7:27 am

    I might be grasping at straws here … but I’m a little disappointed in our rookies … . . … With all these injuries . .none of the “kids” have seized the golden opportunity to break out and prove that they belong in the majors playing for the Yanks ……. Adams .186 Romine .145 Neal .182 Cojo .167……… (Zolo -.303)

    I know its a sample size ……but I kinda expected at least one to really emerge.

  37. blake July 1st, 2013 at 7:35 am

    If the Yankees were smart…theyd hold a press conference to announce two things…..

    First that project 189 has been aborted. Say they tried it but the team just isn’t ready to go there and be able to win.

    Second….admit that the plan for this year has failed for various reasons and hint that they are going to sell and prepare for the future.

    The 2nd statement may anger some fans….but when coupled with starement 1 fans that have any sense should be excited:. What’s not exciting is more of the same

  38. Mike Ri July 1st, 2013 at 7:38 am

    What?s not exciting is more of the same
    ———
    Thats the truth ! ..

  39. austinmac July 1st, 2013 at 7:40 am

    None of our minor league positional players in the upper levels in the last couple of years have been well regarded. Last year’s AAA team was like this year’s, old, filler guys. None of the guys we brought up this year are frankly considered good prospects.

    Therein lies the problem. They don’t have any good young major league ready players and may not next year either. After that, we can hope.

  40. austinmac July 1st, 2013 at 7:46 am

    Blake,

    I would be thrilled at such a press conference. It is far more likely they announce they have acquired Kelly Shoppach,and that they can’t wait for him to help the returnees keep the team competitive.

    I would like to hear from Hal. What do you have to say now? Your plan is still working? No, I forgot, it is all bad luck with injuries to Jeter, AROD, Youkilis one could never expect. Nor could one expect Hafner and Wells not to produce. Then, he will remind of of his spending this year.

    Then, the fans will stay away in droves.

  41. blake July 1st, 2013 at 7:50 am

    Mac,

    Yup….the Calvary is coming…we spent 230 million….we still feel the “A team” is championship caliber …etc etc

  42. PacoDooley July 1st, 2013 at 7:55 am

    blake July 1st, 2013 at 7:25 am
    Now 6.5 back in the division and 4 back of the WC…..it’s getting away fast
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    Indeed – reminds me that a few days ago someone thought it worthwhile to call everyone a bunch of naysayers that were panicking despite the fact that the team was only a few games out. Anyone with that perspective does not understand the fact that the team has been in free-fall for weeks now. They only looked like a successful team because early season success (fuelled by several players that have come back to earth) gave them buoyancy to stay above water for a while. Three 5 game losing streaks is enough to demonstrate that the team is not going anywhere.

  43. PacoDooley July 1st, 2013 at 8:00 am

    While we watch this team tank and have to hear about how they invested all this money (in the likes of Wells and Ichiro) we are left watching a guy like Puig get 44 hits in his first 100 ABs because he was too expensive to take a risk on. The $27m that they are giving Wells and Ichiro to do basically nothing useful would go a long way, and $6m a year against the soft-cap for a guy like Puig would not really hamper their ability to compete.

  44. austinmac July 1st, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Simply look at the lineup. If they were wearing another uniform, we would call it among the very worst in the game. It may be the worst. To believe this team can win is fan hopes and dreams. They have no chance to get to the playoffs.

    The sooner reality is faced, the better. That said, they will continue on the same path of trying to delude the fan base. ” The Yankees don’t sell. They just age.” New team marketing slogan.

  45. luis July 1st, 2013 at 8:07 am

    Good morning,

    Not much time to talk…But Blake, very good posts and right on the money…. Option one being the safest toward the fan base, but it could bankcrupt them if they are not careful… I rather see them take option two… The middle won’t work, eternal mediocrity as a result of taking this path.

  46. luis July 1st, 2013 at 8:08 am

    Blow it up and start over…. No Cashman at the helm please… Later

  47. luis July 1st, 2013 at 8:09 am

    Hal, you could sell too… But as long as you stay away from baseball operations and hire someone capable you can stay…

  48. PacoDooley July 1st, 2013 at 8:14 am

    I think that they have largely adopted option 2, but it is being done in a way that appears as the middle ground. They are hoping to spend money to buffer the transition phase – spend on expiring contracts and 1 or 2 year deals to retain roster and payroll flexibility going forward. It looked like a decent approach in the first month or two when Pronk, Youk and Wells were playing well and they were holding above water. But it now appears foolhardy as those players have all returned to their true residual talent levels.

  49. 86w183 July 1st, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Good morning all —-

    With each passing loss the thought of a sell off becomes more and more attractive.

    They tried to “hold the fort” til the reinforcements arrived but it doesn’t look like they’ll be able to. Part of that is fading players continuing to fade, but part of it is also stubborness and horrific roster management.

    They still are carrying 13 pitchers even though in the last eight days Robertson and Rivera have only pitched once and Adam Warren hasn’t pitched in 12 days. You can’t convince me that Ruiz couldn’t have delivered just one important hit in two weeks.

    While some of the Yanks’ issues were foreseeable I don’t think anyone could have anticipated getting so little out of Granderson and Teixiera. Neither was great last year, yet they combined for 67 HR and 190 RBI.

  50. MTU July 1st, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Blake-

    “Pick a lane”.

    I like it and I agree.

    We used to call it “Sh*t or get off the pot.”

    :)

  51. 86w183 July 1st, 2013 at 8:23 am

    We used to call it “Sh*t or get off the pot.”

    ***********************************

    Never understood that phrase. wouldn’t BOTH make more sense?

  52. blake July 1st, 2013 at 8:24 am

    “I think that they have largely adopted option 2, but it is being done in a way that appears as the middle ground”

    You can’t do half way though…..because if you’re trying to cobble together a WC birth out of a bad team then you’re also gonna be unwilling to trade players when appropriate and you’re not goin to get high draft picks either.

    It just prolongs the process…….they either have to spend money (on real players and not duct tape in human form) or they have to seriously rebuild…..and rebuilding doesn’t mean just sit around and wait for the farm system to develop…..it means making trades to add to the system and it also still means trying to get players other ways.

    Hypothetically the Yankees could turn this around rather quickly…..

    For example lets say they traded Cano for Castellanks then re-signed Cano in the winter and signed Brian McCann……

    Suddenly you have a 3rd baseman of the future …..a real catcher….and cano also. These things are possible but they are going to have to forget this 189 stuff and operate outside their little box they have created.

  53. blake July 1st, 2013 at 8:25 am

    Doing it halfway makes you the Cubs of the last 15 years

  54. JT July 1st, 2013 at 8:26 am

    I thought it was petty that they didn’t re-sign Russell Martin. Other than that, I was OK with everything. They arr trying to transition to a “leaner platform,” but they know that the brand promise is that they are always competitive.

    They were low 90s-win team. It has been just a terrible rash of injuries….

  55. ConcernedCitizen July 1st, 2013 at 8:26 am

    The moral of the story is games like Friday are must win games. This team isn’t going to sweep series or go on 10 game winning streaks. If you give away a lead/win, it’s absolutely devastating.

  56. MTU July 1st, 2013 at 8:32 am

    Some of our posters, Y’s in particular, believe that Hal is going to deep six 189.

    I hope he is right and I wish they’d get on with it.

    The Team is sliding badly and has been for quite some time.

    You cannot be a player scoring an avg. of just 3 runs a game.

    The longer they wait the harder it will be to overcome.

    Of course an alternate view is that, despite protestations to the contrary, Hal won’t do it.

    I want to be dead wrong but I have always been skeptical of what Hal said in regards to scrapping
    189.

    We should know which way our season is gonna go fairly soon.

    Waiting too much longer w/o doing anything should not be an option.

    It’s Hal’s show.

    ;)

  57. austinmac July 1st, 2013 at 8:39 am

    I will be utterly shocked if Hal does anything this TD to add to next year’s salary level.the staying competitive talk is just pablum for we fans.

  58. MTU July 1st, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Yankees counting on a big 2nd half run ?

    Grandy, Cervelli, Jeter, and A-Rod all back.

    A tweak or 2 on the trade front.

  59. MTU July 1st, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Time for the most important meal of the day.

    Be back.

  60. PacoDooley July 1st, 2013 at 8:46 am

    MTU July 1st, 2013 at 8:39 am
    Yankees counting on a big 2nd half run ?

    Grandy, Cervelli, Jeter, and A-Rod all back.

    A tweak or 2 on the trade front.
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    This sounded reasonable a couple of weeks ago, but it is really starting to feel like the season is getting away. I know someone will make the case that they remain close, but they have been pretty bad for a month now and seem poised to continue to drop.

  61. sunny615 July 1st, 2013 at 8:47 am

    yankees = toast.

  62. blake July 1st, 2013 at 8:52 am

    They are gonna blame it on the injures….it’s a perfect excuse and it’d be justifiable if the players that were hurt weren’t either old or declining. The offense never was going to be any good….sure it would have been better than this….but still not good enoughn most likely as it wasn’t good enough last year

  63. Doreen July 1st, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Hal won’t do anything until the troops are back. I’m not sure he really can do anything until then.

  64. Shame Spencer July 1st, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Yesterday was rough… it had 2 bright spots and neither had a thing to do with the Yankees:

    1) I found out something about JF that made me smile!! I thought finding out that his name was Patrick was crazy but this was much better.. :D

    2) The Devils made a BOLD trade.. moved their #9 pick for one of the better young goalies in the league, Cory Schneider. The moment they announced the trade and the elation set in, I thought about the Yankees. If the Yankees were run like Lou would run and org, we wouldn’t be in this situation right now.

  65. Shame Spencer July 1st, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Chad is too quick for me… :arrow:

  66. longtimefan July 1st, 2013 at 8:59 am

    This is not Joe Girardi’s fault, it’s not the players fault, this team was put together poorly to say the least with ownership and management decisions. Ownership is only concerned with revenue not baseball and until it starts to feel the crunch on the balance sheet this is what the baseball fans have to look forward to. Look at the O’s, young talented, well coached and hungry to win, yet they were door mats for many seasons.

  67. jacksquat July 1st, 2013 at 9:02 am

    It is partly due to injuries, and not all foreseeable. Arod they knew would be out and Jeter is old so it’s no surprise there were setbacks, Youk was risky. But Tex usually just misses some games here and there, Granderson has missed the entire year being hit by pitches twice, Nunez kept getting hit by pitches, Cervelli got taken out by a foul tip. Those guys aren’t old. All those guys would have helped the team be better than they are now, probably only a few games out instead of 6 at least.

  68. Doreen July 1st, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Oh, I think the sheer volume of the injuries, to the all-stars and their replacements, give justifiable reasons for the season.

    No doubt the team was always going to have to have most things go their way, but there was reason to believe they’d be competitive before the wave of injuries. When players who were supposed to be supporting cast step into starring roles, it is unreasonable to expect the results to be pleasing. If it happens, you are grateful. If it doesn’t, you should not be surprised.

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