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Great expectations

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 02, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alex Rodriguez, Joe Girardi

On a scale of 1 to 5, what is your expectation for Alex Rodriguez this season?

1. Absolutely nothing
There’s a league investigation into Biogenesis, a surgically repaired hip that has yet to be tested in a game, and speculation that Rodriguez would rather retire than face the possibility of further injury or costly suspension. He’s not back in the Yankees lineup yet, and he’s not coming back. At least not this year.

2. Makes no difference
Rodriguez wasn’t a great hitter last season, and the hip had very little to do with it. His slugging percentage has declined each year for the past five years. Is it supposed to suddenly climb after another extensive surgery? If Rodriguez plays any better than David Adams, it won’t be by much, and the Yankees would be better off letting the young guy get at-bats.

3. All too familiar
Last season was a fairly accurate glimpse of what Rodriguez has become. Maybe he won’t be as bad as he was in September, but he no longer hits for power against right-handers, and he’s more of a complimentary piece than a difference maker. He’ll be better than what the Yankees have right now, but it’s not saving the lineup.

4. Turn back the clock
The hip problem was significant, and it explains much of what Rodriguez has shown the past two seasons. He’s not what he was in his prime, but he’s still an elite hitter capable of slugging in the low .500s and getting on base 35 percent of the time. He hit 16 home runs in the second half of 2010. He’s certainly capable of reaching that number again.

5. He’s back
The hip is fixed. The time off his feet brought some much needed rest, and these months of rehab have brought every opportunity to strengthen and fix bad habits. For a three-time MVP, this surgery was a blessing in disguise, returning Rodriguez to something just short of his peak. He’s a career .300/.384/.560 hitter, and that’s the player the Yankees are getting back.

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171 Responses to “Great expectations”

  1. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Watch some of this attached video of Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez and tell me if he’s worth signing to a big contract, because I wasn’t all that impressed.

    http://www.vinscullyismyhomebo.....Y+HOMEBOY)

  2. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:12 am

    On ARod

    I don’t foresee #5, hoping for #4, but #3 is probably more likely.

  3. pat July 2nd, 2013 at 9:14 am

    3.5

  4. Frankg July 2nd, 2013 at 9:15 am

    The Red Sox made an international splash today, signing Dominican third baseman Rafael Devers for $1.5MM according to a tweet from Dionisio Soldevila of ESPN Deportes. Devers, perhaps the best left-handed hitter on the market, was ranked third among this year’s class of international prospects by Baseball America’s Ben Badler, and sixth by MLB.com.

  5. Doreen July 2nd, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Expecting 3, and hoping for a flash or two of 4.

  6. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Good morning guys,

    3.5 maybe… Still his 3 is better than 80% of the rest of league.

    There is a Venezuelan kid.. I don’t remember his name… He plays SS and is a potential five tool kid

  7. MG July 2nd, 2013 at 9:17 am

    I few quick, drive-by thoughts:
    1. Andy isn’t pitching very well right now but he’s far from through-his stuff is good, just missing location sometimes. If he was AJ Burnett it would be an issue but he’s Andy Pettitte, he will figure it out. The Yankees have no chance to go anywhere this year without him.
    2. I like Zoilo Alomonte-good approach at the plate, plays all out, better than ‘advertised’ in the outfield. He looks like a keeper to me.
    3. David Adams is hopeless-I see him as just another AAAA player who can’t cut it in the bigs
    4. Austin Romine-see David Adams

    I was really wrong about Teix getting back at near 100% this year but there was no reason to have the surgery in the spring, he would have missed the year anyway.

    I was also wrong about Youk, his back was clearly an issue and the Yankees should have found a better alternative in the off season.

    I also fell for Vernon Wells’ renaissance at the plate, it’s hard to believe a guy could be that good for a month and then hit like Austin Romine for the next 100 plate appearances. Maybe it was having to play everyday but he can’t be counted on for much through the end of his contract.

    I don’t see them winning the AL East unless Boston goes into a protracted slump somewhere along the way-a good friend of mine (lifelong Sox fan) said yesterday he doesn’t think the Sox will win more than 90 games, if that is the case then it will be a dog fight provided some of the regulars get back and produce.

  8. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:23 am

    MG

    Good morning. My sentiments exactly.

  9. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 9:26 am

    I’d rank in order of most to least likely.

    3, 2, 4, 1, 5

  10. Wave Your Hat July 2nd, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I guess 4. At least, that’s what the Yanks need from him in order to compete.

  11. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Luis

    Is it SS 15 yo Luis Carpio?

    Carpio, a slick-fielding shortstop, has been attached to the Mets for at least a week now, and ranks 30th on this list. Badler notes his stock has been rising as the July 2nd date nears, and his offensive ability is better showcased in live game situations. He has more line drive power potential than home run potential, but he also has good bat control and pitch recognition. Some scouts have said he’s one of the more underrated international prospects.

  12. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Trader,

    Not sure… I’ll look up the paper where I read it… It must have been Yesterday or Sunday…

  13. fantasygame101 July 2nd, 2013 at 9:32 am

    most probably 1, mlb is dead serious. But if he plays, he will help bec. anybody that resembles a real mlb player will help this team.

  14. JobaTipsHisCap July 2nd, 2013 at 9:36 am

    no need to hate Arod this much.
    Nobody pointed gun to Yankees’ head when his contract was signed.

    deal with it.

  15. 4TrainNorth July 2nd, 2013 at 9:36 am

    On the topic of the AL East, hard to say who the best team is right now. We know it’s not the Yankees, but Boston, Baltimore and Tampa Bay are all looking tough, and Toronto is starting to show signs of life. So right now, as much as I’d like to see it, it seems crazy to talk about us in a battle with Boston. Unless A-Rod does a #5.

  16. MG July 2nd, 2013 at 9:37 am

    One more thing-ship Chamberlain out of town on the next bus.

    His entry into the game last night was a cause for almost throwing something at the TV (and I never get very upset at anything that happens during a game). That shutout inning was more the matter of luck than anything else (rocket right at Cano for two, a flyball by Plouffe that was very close to getting out of the park).

  17. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 9:39 am

    I seriously doubt #4 is still in there at his age with this much time off and 2 surgically repaired hips…..there is probably a reason Alex has been continuing to use….it’s either he’s mentally addicted to them or simply he doesn’t feel like he can perform the way he wants to anymore without help.

    Id love to be wrong and him come back and be good…..but I kinda doubt he will be more than a marginal improvement to be honest.

  18. Shame Spencer July 2nd, 2013 at 9:39 am

    What we were seeing from Alex for most of the year last year before the hand injury was a lack of power but a decent average (.270). I wonder if with the hip being better we’ll see a lower average and more power or if Alex will try to be more of a singles/doubles/line drive hitter.

    Really…. for all the heat the guy took, I’d take his slash line from last year on this team without a second thought.

    I still like my idea (shocking!! :D ) of putting him at first to limit the range he has to cover in the field and signing a 3B. If you’re gonna dream, dream big!!

  19. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 9:40 am

    It’s Gleiber Torres…
    http://www.el-nacional.com/dep.....78387.html

    Still If Carpio is flying under the radar, maybe we can pick him up along with one of the other two they are after?

  20. fantasygame101 July 2nd, 2013 at 9:41 am

    joba has trade value bec. he has staff that you can not teach. But he needs a pitching coach that he would listen to.

  21. Rich in NJ July 2nd, 2013 at 9:41 am

    .830 OPS

  22. Shame Spencer July 2nd, 2013 at 9:42 am

    With one surgically repaired hip, Alex hit: .272/.353/.430/.783

    If they installed a centaur hip maybe he could find a way to do that again.

  23. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:42 am

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....pects.html

    Luis

    It’s probably Carlos Herrera. Check the attached list.

  24. Shame Spencer July 2nd, 2013 at 9:43 am

    MG July 2nd, 2013 at 9:37 am

    One more thing-ship Chamberlain out of town on the next bus.

    ——————

    He has just been so, so bad. If he wasn’t about to be an FA I’d wonder if it wasn’t on purpose to spite the Yankees lol.. it’s amazing.

  25. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Luis

    I just saw your response. The Yankees need to target a SS.

  26. MG July 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 am

    as for Arod, I don’t want him on the team but if he comes back, he’ll probably do what he was doing in 2012 before the hand injury, maybe slightly better.

    considering the black hole at 3rd base in his absence, though, that, as others have said, is a big improvement.

    I’m also guessing Jeter will start rehab games sometime next week or the following week, his return would really help-they just have no one to hit 2nd, last night was a perfect example.

  27. 4TrainNorth July 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I think Joba might actually be bad luck–in addition to sucking at throwing the baseball. If the Yanks do ship him, I see us taking off on a major tear.

  28. pat July 2nd, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Standing room only in Charleston tonight. Alex can still sell tickets.

  29. MG July 2nd, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Shame Spencer July 2nd, 2013 at 9:43 am
    He has just been so, so bad. If he wasn’t about to be an FA I’d wonder if it wasn’t on purpose to spite the Yankees lol.. it’s amazing.
    ——————–
    he just has no brains on the mound.

    did anyone notice the way Rothschild was talking to him on the mound last night after he started throwing over to 1st base?

    There wasn’t anything nice said out there, it looked like Larry’s face was turning red the longer he spoke.

  30. fantasygame101 July 2nd, 2013 at 9:47 am

    joba is just not into this relief role, he wants to be a starter so he still pitches like a starter in relief role meaning he still tries to use all his pitches even his borderline pitches.

  31. 4TrainNorth July 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Also, does anyone else feel like putting Jeter and his decrepit ankle at SS is too great a risk to take? I hate to give him Alex’s spot at 1B, but shouldn’t they take more care with someone whose bat will undoubtedly help this lineup (in the 2 hole)?

  32. yankeefeminista July 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Luis, BA had Torres ranked at #2 on their list, so he’d probably get more than we can afford. Also there is debate as to whether or not he is athletic enough to play/stay at SS. Carlos Herrera is the other Venezuelan SS.

    I think Alex gives us a solid 3.5.

  33. PacoDooley July 2nd, 2013 at 9:51 am

    As for Alex, I agree with blake:

    (in order of most to least likely).

    3, 2, 4, 1, 5

    Though I see 2 and 4 as not being too far apart in terms of likelihood. I guess it all depends on whether he has access to PEDs still, despite Biogenesis and investigations.

    If Alex has a new PED source, I say:

    4, 3, 2, 5, 1

    If Alex has no source for PEDs, then I say:

    2, 3, 4, 1, 5

    So I see the top ranking as weighing the PED versus non PED Alex.

  34. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Luis

    I just saw your response. The Yankees need to target a SS.

    ==========================

    Yes they do… And Venezuelans have been particularly good in the position… So I would draft one if I could

  35. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 9:52 am

    A-Rod upgrades 3B by default. I suspect he’ll be pretty good.

    Not a bad idea to have him at 1B versus LHP in theory, but not a good time to teach him a new position. Maybe in the off-season. they still need osmeone to platoon at 1B with Overbay. His .543 OPS against LHP is just awful.

  36. PacoDooley July 2nd, 2013 at 9:53 am

    4TrainNorth July 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 am
    Also, does anyone else feel like putting Jeter and his decrepit ankle at SS is too great a risk to take? I hate to give him Alex’s spot at 1B, but shouldn’t they take more care with someone whose bat will undoubtedly help this lineup (in the 2 hole)?

    —————————-

    I think that they put Jeter back at short largely because that is a huge hole and, even if he sucks in the field, he will be an upgrade. It could be a risk for his ankle, but this late in the year they presumably will take the risk. I think Alex splits 3B and DH with Jeter if both are back on the team. I think Pronk loses his job and becomes a PH if those two show any life.

  37. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Saw on twitter that the report on Devers is premature. He has NOT signed yet.

  38. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Shame about Nunez. He was playing SS better than he ever had before when he got hurt. I’d love to see him get back real soon. He wasn’t hitting much, but would much rather see him in the lineup than Nix.

  39. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 9:56 am

    4trainnorth —-

    Jeter as a part time SS / part time 1B makes more sense to me.

    In two weeks or so the infield vs LHP could be Jeter, Cano, Nunez, A-rod

    Slight improvement from Overbay, Cano, Nix, Adams wouldn’t you say?

  40. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 9:56 am

    yankeefeminista July 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 am
    Luis, BA had Torres ranked at #2 on their list, so he’d probably get more than we can afford. Also there is debate as to whether or not he is athletic enough to play/stay at SS. Carlos Herrera is the other Venezuelan SS.

    I think Alex gives us a solid 3.5.

    =========================

    Probably… But a 5 tool SS are very rare and if he can’t stick in the position, the transition to 3B won’t be that hard… He is already a big kid… But boy would I love the Yankees to draft a SS

  41. 4TrainNorth July 2nd, 2013 at 9:58 am

    I think the other thing to consider with all this 1-5 business is that Alex is really old, plain and simple. We’ve been spoiled with Jeter, who’s been productive through his mid-30s. Unless Alex has some newfound life in his bat, I think we’re going to see him late on a lot of good cheese. You started seeing that when he was 34. Now, maybe this slow bat was a result of the bad hip(s), but what if it was just the normal slowing that occurs as players reach this age?

  42. Shame Spencer July 2nd, 2013 at 9:59 am

    86 – Next year you figure Tex will be healthy and they won’t consider playing Alex there but I’d try it out this season anyway, because you’re right it would make a lot of sense against LHP. In fact… this might just be my new obsession for a while. Imagine a platoon worth $455 million at 1B :D

  43. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 10:01 am

    . “Imagine a platoon worth $455 million at 1B”

    I’ll say ” Very efficient use of financial resources” ;)

  44. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2013 at 10:01 am

    - WHAT I WATCHED LAST NIGHT -

    (1) I watched Cano hit 2 Homers.

    (2) I watched Cano JOG to 1B on a grounder that the 2B juggled. If Cano runs Hard out of the box, he beats the juggled throw to 1B.

    (3) I watched Cano turn a triple into a double, simply because, (once again), he did Not run Hard out of the box.

    (4) I watched Ichiro run Hard on an errant pickoff attempt, and go from 1B to 3B. A Crucial play in the game.

    (5) I watched a guy play solid BB from inning 1 to 9. I watched a guy that did Not attempt to hit the ball 9 miles. I watched a guy do offensively, whatever the situation called for. I watched Almonte

  45. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 10:02 am

    A bad Alex would be better than most

  46. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Shame — two things

    1. I agree on next year, just trying to figure out the best way to get to October

    2. that platoon might COST $ 455 M, but it sure as hell isn’t WORTH $ 455 M.

  47. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Cr 7 —-

    Way off base. Boston is spending $ 80 Million LESS than the Yankees payroll this year. They have about $ 5 M more than the Yanks in the IFA pool because the Yanks signed two of the top four guys last year.

  48. yankeefeminista July 2nd, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Luis, we do have a couple of prospectively very good SS’s in the system already, especially Avelino, who I think should make his GCL debut soon. I am very excited about him. Also Mateo and Baez…

  49. 4TrainNorth July 2nd, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Agree with Donnybrook, esp. 1-3. Cano might be the best player in the game today if he played all-out. He can do that big goofy smile, like, “Aw shucks, can you believe I just hit the ball 450 feet?” But until he has some type of knee/ankle/hip deal, he needs to get more serious when it comes to hustle.

  50. Shame Spencer July 2nd, 2013 at 10:10 am

    86 – To me, what they do with Alex this year should depend only on one thing: what they can acquire. If they can get a better 1B, go for it and keep Alex where he is. But I’d seriously consider making a move for a 3B (like Headley!! :D ) and pushing Alex to 1B if such a move can be made. I don’t really think it would take him a ton of time to get used to playing over there and I genuinely think it will help keep him stay healthy.

    I think my calculator actually rolled its eyes at me when I added Tex and Alex’s salaries.

  51. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 10:11 am

    “His entry into the game last night was a cause for almost throwing something at the TV (and I never get very upset at anything that happens during a game). That shutout inning was more the matter of luck than anything else (rocket right at Cano for two, a flyball by Plouffe that was very close to getting out of the park).”

    I agree….I hated that decision in a game that close. He pitched a clean inning but what if he goes in there and does his usual 1 or 2 (or more) runs? Maybe the offense doesn’t score all those runs.. you never know…..I honestly just don’t want to see Joba anymore in a game that is less than 10 runs differential.

  52. yankeefeminista July 2nd, 2013 at 10:11 am

    I think whatever Alex is hitting-wise, one thing he is is smart; he knows how to compensate and knows he isn’t the hitter he once was. What we saw when he was healthy is that Alex shortened up his swing, and was very good situationally. Unlike some other hitters, I think Alex will do whatever needs to be done in terms of adjusting his hitting mechanics in order to be successful.

  53. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Cano does hustle…. He doesn’t have Ichiro’s speed… And he is being pitched around

  54. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Dionisio Soldevila ?@dSoldevila 2m
    Sources say the Rangers bought space from the international cap from the Marlins #July2nd

  55. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:13 am

    CR 7

    What planet are you posting from?

    The Patriots do not smell like a Rose what with the Hernandez arrest and idiotic shenanigans of Gronkowski while letting a class act like Welker leave over $$$.

    The brilliantly managed Red Sawx are 248-238 the past three seasons and missed the playoffs each time.

    The brilliantly run Celtics just bailed into full re-build mode after a mediocre (41-40) season that featured a first round playoff exit.

    Come to think of it, you should root for the Boston area teams.

  56. luis July 2nd, 2013 at 10:14 am

    YF,

    Good post on Alex… He does know his limitations and is a very smart hitter

    I am out

  57. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2013 at 10:15 am

    With scout(s) in attendance, Girardi knows he has gotta showcase Chamberlain when the situation warrants. Sure, it’s a roll of the dice, but the Yanks desperately want to move him. The blowup between MO and Chamberlain was the Last straw.

  58. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:15 am

    I don’t expect anything from Alex.

    Take all the biogenesis stuff out of it and I still don’t know how well a 38 year old with two surgically repaired hips will perform.

  59. PacoDooley July 2nd, 2013 at 10:16 am

    CR7 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:08 am
    The Red Sox buy Liverpool, one of extensive history. The Yankees form a partnership with Manchester City FC – forever the 2nd club in Manchester, the Mets of the EPL – to own a team in the MLS – the worst top-tier football league known to mankind.
    —————————

    In 2004 or so, the Yankees had signed a marketing agreement with Man United, but it never seemed to go anywhere. Not sure what they will get out of the Man City deal. That said, City won the Premier League title last year over United, so while they are a clear #2 in support, they did win the championship (and their owners are absolutely loaded). United lost their leader this year, so we will see how they do.

    The Liverpool connection for the Sox is really just as likely to be a negative as a positive – it is not an especially wealthy team and the debt could end up as a constraint. Look at United, the debt assumed when they were purchased has been blamed for them not signing some players.

  60. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Cano reminds me a little of Bernie Williams/Manny Ramirez where there’s a lot of natural talent that makes up for sometimes not being entirely focused on what he’s doing or should be doing in game situations.

  61. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Anybody that says Cano hustles, needs to throw out the 19″ Zenith and move up to a larger screen.

  62. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Blake -

    I’m with you. I don’t trust Joba. I know that is shocking coming from me, what with me being such an ardent supporter of that childish slob, but there you have it.

    I don’t think he has a lick of trade value and would not be opposed to Carlos Marmoling him and calling up Dellin Betances to take his spot.

  63. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 10:22 am

    I think Joba could fetch a midling prospect maybe from somebody….the Braves do need a reliever and he’s probably a fit for them….maybe they’d send back a bucket of fresh peaches.

  64. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Disagree with Chip and Blake. If Yanks are planning to trade Joba, then you gotta put him out there and showcase him. Need to try and get at least something in return, even if itsa a B prospect.

  65. PacoDooley July 2nd, 2013 at 10:24 am

    MLBTR reporting that The Rangers acquired pool money from the Marlins to sign shortstop Yeyson Yrizarri.

    Depressing news – the Yankees need to be proactive and get some extra pool money, especially from a team like Miami that wants cash and presumably doesn’t seem to care a lot about winning!

  66. pat July 2nd, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Campos on the mound, Alex at 3B for 3 innings and Bill Murray in the stands. I would Pay $7 SRO to watch that.

  67. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2013 at 10:28 am

    And Beckett is Out for the season, so the R\Sox dodged a bullet there.

  68. Jerkface July 2nd, 2013 at 10:30 am

    By the way the reason the Yanks have the next two least $$$ this year is that cheap S-O-B Hal authorized signing two of the top four last year.

    What? No, the reason they have the least amount of pool is because its based on record.

  69. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “Disagree with Chip and Blake. If Yanks are planning to trade Joba, then you gotta put him out there and showcase him. Need to try and get at least something in return, even if itsa a B prospect.”

    I guess…..I’d rather win the games. If teams don’t know what Joba is by now then they haven’t really scouted him or paid attention.

  70. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Hal changed his mind about trading for pool money when he found out that they weren’t talking about swimming pool money.

  71. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Disagree with Chip and Blake. If Yanks are planning to trade Joba, then you gotta put him out there and showcase him. Need to try and get at least something in return, even if itsa a B prospect.
    ——————

    Why?

    The team is 3 months away from letting him walk for nothing anyway. At this point I would rather have the roster spot than let him go in there, give up runs in an attempt to raise his trade value from zero to minimal.

  72. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2013 at 10:35 am

    There is also Salary $$$ to consider in moving Chamberlain. With that S-O-B Hal, that is Priority 1.

  73. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Jerkface July 2nd, 2013 at 10:30 am

    By the way the reason the Yanks have the next two least $$$ this year is that cheap S-O-B Hal authorized signing two of the top four last year.

    What? No, the reason they have the least amount of pool is because its based on record.
    —————

    I have a rule: don’t wade into an argument with someone who doesn’t know which “to” to use.

  74. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2013 at 10:38 am

    To belittle someone due to a typo or grammar is unwarranted.

  75. austinmac July 2nd, 2013 at 10:38 am

    I guess I would go withthe consensus 3.5 for Alex. Truthfully, who knows?

    I hate that our hands are tied by the stupid signing cap on international players. I have read that Molina, the CF they are interested in can’t sign until early August when he turns 16. The SS I read they are interested in supposedly has good defensive skills and questionable batting abilities. Again, who knows?

  76. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:33 am
    Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Disagree with Chip and Blake. If Yanks are planning to trade Joba, then you gotta put him out there and showcase him. Need to try and get at least something in return, even if itsa a B prospect.
    ——————

    Why?

    The team is 3 months away from letting him walk for nothing anyway. At this point I would rather have the roster spot than let him go in there, give up runs in an attempt to raise his trade value from zero to minimal.

    ___________________________

    Thats my point! Why let him walk for nothing if you can get something for him. Teams are scouting hm so obviously they have interest. His velocity has been fine, he just has benn bad with his location at times. Sorry, I keep putting him out there. He’s not as bad as some of you say

  77. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:41 am

    My mistake on the signing pool, but it is true the Yanks signed two top IFA last July.

    CR7 —-

    If you would rather what the Red Sox have done in the last four years plus this one over what the Yankees are done you’re beyond hope. Boston has had a better month. That’s about it.

    How did your beloved Patriots do against the Giants in the Super Bowls ???

  78. flatbush fan July 2nd, 2013 at 10:42 am

    2.25

  79. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 10:33 am
    Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Disagree with Chip and Blake. If Yanks are planning to trade Joba, then you gotta put him out there and showcase him. Need to try and get at least something in return, even if itsa a B prospect.
    ——————

    Why?

    The team is 3 months away from letting him walk for nothing anyway. At this point I would rather have the roster spot than let him go in there, give up runs in an attempt to raise his trade value from zero to minimal.

    ___________________________

    Thats my point! Why let him walk for nothing if you can get something for him. Teams are scouting hm so obviously they have interest. His velocity has been fine, he just has benn bad with his location at times. Sorry, I keep putting him out there. He’s not as bad as some of you say
    ——————–

    Teams scout everybody. It doesn’t mean that a GM is willing to give up anything for him. I’m sure the Yankees scouted Brignac with an eye towards, “hey, if the Rockies cut this guy he might be able to help us out.”

  80. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 10:45 am

    86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:41 am
    My mistake on the signing pool, but it is true the Yanks signed two top IFA last July.

    CR7 —-

    If you would rather what the Red Sox have done in the last four years plus this one over what the Yankees are done you’re beyond hope. Boston has had a better month. That’s about it.

    How did your beloved Patriots do against the Giants in the Super Bowls ???

    ________________________________________

    Oh, didn’t Patriot fans tell you? Giants won the first one due to clock mismanagement by the refs on that last drive, and of course a lucky catch by Tyree. THey won the 2nd one only becuase Wes Welker dropped an easy pass that would have sealed the game. LOL!!!!!!!!!!

  81. bruceb July 2nd, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Cano carried the Yanks last night, something we’ve been waiting on for half the season. Can’t believe Gardenhire was dumb enough to pitch to him. You can’t let Cano beat you right now.

    Ichiro played a supporting role by forcing the Twins into making the kind of error that average-to-bad teams make on a nightly basis.

    Great to see the Yanks score 10 runs but nobody really hit the ball hard apart from Cano.

    Almonte has remarkable poise for one so inexperienced. Good to see Adams battling in that last at-bat but he doesn’t seem to have much of a plan when he comes up to the plate. He takes pitches he should be swinging at and hacks at pitches he should be leaving. He should concentrate on putting the ball in play. Good thi9ngs will happen.

    Please can we take 3 out of 4.

  82. flatbush fan July 2nd, 2013 at 10:48 am

    looks like the average pick is just a bit over 3.

  83. bardos July 2nd, 2013 at 10:48 am

    When will CBS sell the team already?

  84. austinmac July 2nd, 2013 at 10:56 am

    I bet Cano doesn’t get another pitch this series. When he is hot, pitch to Hafnwer instead. Not too tough a call.

    I still expect better things from Adams. I like his swing, but at this point it probably is getting difficult to have any confidence. A couple of hit could turn things around.

  85. Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 11:02 am

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q73/s720x720/1045032_599203016768059_1025257188_n.jpg

    Francesa won’t like that

  86. 86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:03 am

    This is not a happy place today… bad for my karma

    Have a day all

  87. blake July 2nd, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Against,

    That’s a great picture and Derek does belong in it.

  88. austinmac July 2nd, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Heavy rain the next two days in Charleston. Great.

  89. Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 11:09 am

    86w183 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:03 am
    This is not a happy place today…

    ——————-

    As Prufrock said it wouldn’t be a bad idea to get a mod in here.

  90. Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 11:11 am

    blake July 2nd, 2013 at 11:06 am
    Against,

    That’s a great picture and Derek does belong in it.

    ———————

    Yea I like it. It is a great picture whoever did it did a great job. I think when it’s all said and done Jeter will go in that group. I see his legacy growing when he retires from the game.

  91. Doreen July 2nd, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Great picture except Derek is not a ghost…he can’t be in that picture yet. ;)

  92. Mike in Harrisburg July 2nd, 2013 at 11:14 am

    With Cahill on the DL for a “hip contusion” (AKA pitching poorly) Arizona’s GM has intimated Skaggs could come back up to start later this week. Possible showcase for other teams?

  93. Mike in Harrisburg July 2nd, 2013 at 11:21 am

    @teixeiramark25 Successful surgery yesterday, doc said it couldn’t have gone better. Looking forward to watching my #Yankee teammates tonight vs the Twins.

    I wonder how long till he can grip a delicious JUICE PRESS smoothie?

  94. pat July 2nd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    teixeiramark25
    Successful surgery yesterday, doc said it couldn’t have gone better. Looking forward to watching my #Yankee teammates tonight vs the Twins.

  95. tbone1570 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 11:02 am

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q73/s720x720/1045032_599203016768059_1025257188_n.jpg

    Francesa won’t like that

    —————————————–
    Great picture, but Yogi should be there too.

  96. Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Doreen July 2nd, 2013 at 11:11 am
    Great picture except Derek is not a ghost…he can’t be in that picture yet.

    ————————–

    If he saw it he would probably say you guys are writing me off already.

  97. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 11:38 am

    @teixeiramark25 Successful surgery yesterday, doc said it couldn’t have gone better. Looking forward to watching my #Yankee teammates tonight vs the Twins.
    ———————-

    Does Cashman lose his cool at this tweet too?

  98. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 11:44 am

    CR7 July 2nd, 2013 at 10:54 am
    Tackelberry, the lucky catch by Tyree and drop by Welker are the primary reason for those losses. Of course, the Giants defense was superb and Eli was clutch. However, the Giants should have lost both of those Super Bowls because of Kevin Gilbride. Gilbride, or Killdrive, as astute Giants fan refer to him, is one of the worst, and most predictable, offensive coordinators in the NFL.

    There’s a reason he’s never a candidate for a head coaching position in the NFL. Because he’s an idiot. He still thinks the NFL is a running league. The NFL is a quarterback league, and Gilbride has one of the best QBs in the league to go along with a decent receiver corps, and fails to utilize Eli correctly. That’s why the Giants are always a possibility for missing the playoffs/making the playoffs, even with Eli as their QB.

    Poor coaching.. in this case, Gilbride. The reason the Patriots are contenders every year, aside from being in the weak AFC East, is they employ the best coach in NFL history

    _______________________________________________
    If you say so. Good luck with Tebow as your TE this year

  99. Mike in Harrisburg July 2nd, 2013 at 11:45 am

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......amberlain/

    C’mon, Joba+Hughes for Brandon Belt+.

  100. sunny615 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:46 am

    So long as he didn’t post his rehab schedule – i think Cash is cool with it.

  101. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Here’s an interesting point. The NY Islanders are buying out Rick DiPietro. They will pay him $1.5 mil a year for the next 16 years. On the other hand the Mets will pay Bobby Bonilla $1.2 mil a year for the next 22 years.

  102. ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Sox signed Rafael Devers (dominican 3b).
    Didnt the Yankees want him?
    Don’t we need future 3rd baseman?

  103. JimK July 2nd, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Take him down to Charleston
    and Put him on the field
    I’ve got no expectations
    A mighty bat he’ll yield

    Still he is a Rich Man
    but now he’s on the dole
    I’ve got no expectations
    he’ll ever show some soul

    So keep him down in Charleston
    Cause now he’s surely done
    I have no expectations
    he’ll help us score a run

  104. ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:50 am

    I still expect better things from Adams. I like his swing, but at this point it probably is getting difficult to have any confidence. A couple of hit could turn things around.

    ___

    I agree.
    This is in his head at this point.
    I honestly believe he is better than what we have seen, but at some point if there was an option, he would be back in AAA trying to work it out….

    But once again Musty is on the DL at a time where he would have a golden shot.

  105. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 11:51 am

    ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:48 am
    Sox signed Rafael Devers (dominican 3b).
    Didnt the Yankees want him?
    Don’t we need future 3rd baseman?

    _______________________________________

    According to Ben Badler of BA, he has NOT signed yet.

  106. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 11:52 am

    ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Sox signed Rafael Devers (dominican 3b).
    Didnt the Yankees want him?
    Don’t we need future 3rd baseman?
    ———————-

    Yes, and at moments like these I’m reminded of the wisdom of Mick Jagger, “You can’t always get what you want.”

  107. ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Jesse Sanchez?@JesseSanchezMLB1h
    Confirming @dSoldevila report. #RedSox have agreed with 3B Rafael Devers, #6 on http://MLB.com ‘s int’l list, for estimated $1.5M.

  108. JimK July 2nd, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Sometimes you don’t even get what you need

  109. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 11:56 am

    JimK July 2nd, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Sometimes you don’t even get what you need
    ————————–

    That’s true – but he never asserted you would get what you need. Just that if you try sometimes, you may find, you get what you need – not that it would always happen. :-)

  110. ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Chip it’s true, but we need SOMETHING.
    I just wish there was a plan for the future.
    The org gives no reason to be confident that they know what they are doing moving forward.
    Cant keep signing one year trash heap vets each season in the hopes the kids all make it.

    2 things wrong with that plan.
    1. It wont work and there is no guarantee the kids make it (and on the infield, we dont have many options as is in the minors)
    2. Signing one year rentals is NOT going to bring fans to the stadium. Fans want a team they feel is theirs and that they know they will see more than one year, or that they watched develop.

  111. Hans Davenport July 2nd, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Supposedly according to Roto World Braves and Giants scouts have been looking at Joba Chamberlain. The link is here.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4518

  112. JimK July 2nd, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Chip, I stand corrected

  113. flatbush fan July 2nd, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Somebody’s claiming to be smarter than a 2x super bowl winning coach.
    Like yourself much?

  114. G. Love July 2nd, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Maybe the Yankees looked at the drafting of Jagielo and thought their pool money was better spent on someone who doesn’t play 3b like this Devers kid?

    I’m not worried about it.

    What I am worried about is how they go about fixing this roster for this season.

    Daily News said they are looking at Morneau and Michael Young. Both expiring contracts.

    I hope they pull those moves off as relying on the offense performing like last night means you’re relying on Robbie to hit .400 the rest of the season with power.

    He needs help.

  115. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    ac1 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Chip it’s true, but we need SOMETHING.
    I just wish there was a plan for the future.
    The org gives no reason to be confident that they know what they are doing moving forward.
    Cant keep signing one year trash heap vets each season in the hopes the kids all make it.

    2 things wrong with that plan.
    1. It wont work and there is no guarantee the kids make it (and on the infield, we dont have many options as is in the minors)
    2. Signing one year rentals is NOT going to bring fans to the stadium. Fans want a team they feel is theirs and that they know they will see more than one year, or that they watched develop.
    ——————–

    Just to play devil’s advocate: High profile players (Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson) and home grown talent (Don Mattingly) didn’t exactly have the stadium packed in the 80s and 90s.

    And there’s no guarantee that this Dominican kid makes it either – he’s a prospect like any other. He could be the next Cano, he could be the next Jose Tabata – I’m not getting too worked up over not getting him.

    The team does have some 3b talent in the pipeline – I don’t see that this guy is any more advanced than a kid like Jagello or even O’Brien now that they’ve moved him to the hot corner.

  116. Tackelberry July 2nd, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    MOrneau has not been the same since that brutal concussion he sustained. I’d like to get YOung though. He’d be a definite upgrade at 3rd and against lefties. Wonder what the Phillies would want for Young

  117. G. Love July 2nd, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Chip,

    Another poster wrote that if there were 2 wild cards in the 80′s, the Yankees would’ve qualified for post season play from 1983-1987 I believe. That would’ve been an impressive run and what some fans fail to realize is that the Yankees won more games in the 80′s than any other team.

    They had trouble closing out the division.

    The really bad teams were the very late 80′s early 90′s. Those teams had rosters similar to what we’re putting out today.

  118. tbone1570 July 2nd, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    G. Love July 2nd, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Maybe the Yankees looked at the drafting of Jagielo and thought their pool money was better spent on someone who doesn’t play 3b like this Devers kid?

    ——————————————

    An IFA like Devers is three (best case scenario) to five years away from helping the big club. Why does posters on here say “sign him we need a 3B (and/or SS)? Don’t we need help in the immediate future? These IFA’s most likely won’t help until these contracts just run their course.

  119. G. Love July 2nd, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    tbone,

    Exactly. 16-17 year olds aren’t helping any time soon and the Yankees current way of developing those guys seems to take about 7-8 years to come to a head.

  120. JimK July 2nd, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Chip

    That would be me who posted the Yankees 80′s record, but G. Love is correct after 87 the team’s record nosedived.

  121. Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    tbone1570 July 2nd, 2013 at 11:22 am
    Against All Odds July 2nd, 2013 at 11:02 am

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q73/s720x720/1045032_599203016768059_1025257188_n.jpg

    Francesa won’t like that

    —————————————–
    Great picture, but Yogi should be there too.

    ————————-

    Yes he should be in there

  122. Chip July 2nd, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    G. Love July 2nd, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Chip,

    Another poster wrote that if there were 2 wild cards in the 80?s, the Yankees would’ve qualified for post season play from 1983-1987 I believe. That would’ve been an impressive run and what some fans fail to realize is that the Yankees won more games in the 80?s than any other team.

    They had trouble closing out the division.

    The really bad teams were the very late 80?s early 90?s. Those teams had rosters similar to what we’re putting out today.
    ————————

    Very true – but when you watch Yankee Classics from those years you see Mattingly hitting bombs to empty seats.

  123. G. Love July 2nd, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Chip,

    The Mets owned NY during the mid-80′s. Completely owned it. That had a lot to do with attendance as well as people not wanting to go to the Bronx back then. That’s why George wanted NJ so bad. He knew the surrounding area at that time was a drawback to many fans.

  124. champ809 July 2nd, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Amazing!

    Only here on this blog could a guy like Robbie be criticized after a game where he carried his team to a much needed win by totaling 11 bases in 5 PAs, crush 2 HRS ( 1 dead center, the other oppo ) off a LHP in Diamond which has been the major lament off many of his critics.

    The best part of it is that many of the same guys who complain about his lack of hustle probably only hustle themselves from the couch to the fridge to grab another cold one then maybe to the desktop to type out their “expert analysis” here on the blog.

    Speed is not and never will be a part of Robbie’s game. And for those who question his baseball IQ grab another straw. For instance a smart player wouldn’t get himself thrown out at 3rd trying to stretch a double into a triple to leadoff an inning down by a run….especially in the late innings of the game. The smart play there is to take the leadoff 2B and then expect your guys behind you to pick you up and push you across the plate.

    Gardy could have made it to 3rd on that play but Cano doesn’t have that kinda speed to risk it. By staying at second and not making the out there he set up what became the big inning where they took the lead for good.

  125. JimK July 2nd, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    G. Love
    Steinbrenner did not want to leave the Bronx, he used the “bad neighborhood” as a means to get the city to underwrite the renovation for Yankee Stadium;
    It was and still is not the most desirable location in the BX

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