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Yankees catch a bad break

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 06, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Francisco Cervelli was doing baseball activities again after breaking his right hand April 26, but it was announced Thursday that the catcher had a stress reaction in his right elbow and needed to be shut down for at least two weeks before being reevaluated. So what does this mean for him going forward?

“This is a big setback in the fact I don’t know what we’re going to get going forward this year,” Brian Cashman said Friday, “because now you’re getting the arm to calm down and then get him going and you’re starting to run out of time I’m sure at some point.”

Chris Stewart, of course, took over as the No. 1 guy and he has stood out defensively, throwing out 40 percent of those trying to steal. But he’s 0 for his last 16 and has dropped to .235. Austin Romine is 2 for his last 20 and has just a .136 average to show for 66 at-bats. The rookie has caught only 14.3 percent of those trying to steal.

Cashman has been very pleased with J.R. Murphy, who’s batting .299 with three homers and 11 RBI in 18 games with Scranton/Wilkes-Barre after being promoted from Trenton. He had two RBI, including a walk-off sac fly in a 3-2 win over Buffalo Friday night.

The 22-year-old righty hitter, a 2009 second-round pick, batted .268 with six homers and 25 RBI in 49 games with Trenton.

“If people want to speculate about catching improvement, I would say speculate more on that aspect,” Cashman said. “I’m not saying we’re doing anything there. It’s more speaking to how great he’s been doing and at the same time how limited the market really is anyway. If we do anything, it’ll probably more likely come from within than outside.”

Derek Jeter will make the Lehigh Valley-Scranton/Wilkes-Barre game even more interesting tonight. Here’s a link to my story on Jeter and A-Rod on the rehab road. Also, here’s a link to my story on what Ivan Nova and the Yankees accomplished against the Orioles last night.

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192 Responses to “Yankees catch a bad break”

  1. blake July 6th, 2013 at 7:43 am

    Really stinks for Cervelli. They need a catcher bad

    Not sure if they made a mechanical or grip adjustment or what with nova when he went down but it was obvious as soon as he came back that his fastball was heavier and once again had that great sink and two seam action that made him successful 2 years ago…..that’s the difference for me.

    Before he was throwing 95 but it was flat and lifeless and up in the zone and guys were just hammering it….now he’s throwing the same velocity but it’s just a totally different pitch…..much more movement and life. If he can keep that he’s going to have success

  2. MG July 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    I didn’t see the game last night but flipped on the radio as the Yankees came to bat in the bottom of the 9th (one of the Tampa stations carries some of the Yankees games, I wonder how the Rays owners feel about that).

    Sterling was actually very listenable for the whole inning with Suzyn out of the booth.

    Anyway, nice win, it sounds like Nova pitched a great game-only good things can come from guys pitching well consistently.

    Is anyone else as surprised as me to see Jeter starting his rehab in Scranton? He must be closer to being ready than any of the other guys.

  3. blake July 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Also….I know this winning streak is cool and all and it’s nice but lets not let it blind is to the truth. The yanks won last night but they were a Jim Johnson away from losing 2-1 and squandering a great start by Nova.

    Not trying to be a Debbie downer but this offense is still pretty bad and they need legit help if they want to accomplish something this year

  4. Frankg July 6th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Murphy is nothing to get excited about. He is a .266 BA minor league hitter, and hit .268 at Trenton this year. Let’s hope he found himself at S/W.

    Luckily, there’s not much out there in the way of catchers and RH hitters for 3B and 1B, otherwise Cashman might have traded Nova to get one.

  5. Doreen July 6th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Good morning Blake.

    I am torn about the possibility of JR being called up. Would he be the exception? The guy who is able to play sporadically and keep up his hitting, against ML pitchers? Then again, Stewart needs a better back up than Romine has been. Guess we’ll see.

    (For anyone who cares, I posted in the last thread about the Tin Cup screen name. I won’t bog down this thread with a repost. I only bothered because I have been around since 2006 and felt compelled to speak about Randy’s integrity, which, whether or not you agree with his opinions, he’s never shied away from them.)

  6. blake July 6th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Morning Doreen.

    If they seriously want to win this year then I think they are to gonna need a better catcher….Id have to consider seeing what JR could do at some point

  7. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Good morning

    Maybe Jeter requested to begin rehab in AAA?

    Tough “break” for Cervelli. Here’s a list of FA catchers-maybe a decent one will become available from a team going nowhere-Carlos Ruiz?

    Henry Blanco (42)
    John Buck (33)
    Jesus Flores (29)
    Ramon Hernandez (38)
    Brian McCann (30)
    Jose Molina (38)
    Dioner Navarro (30)
    Wil Nieves (36)
    Miguel Olivo (35)
    Ronny Paulino (33)
    Brayan Pena (32)
    A.J. Pierzynski (37)
    Humberto Quintero (34)
    Carlos Ruiz (35)
    Jarrod Saltalamacchia (29)
    Kelly Shoppach (34)
    Chris Snyder (33)
    Geovany Soto (31)
    Kurt Suzuki (30) – $8.5MM club option with a $650K buyout
    Yorvit Torrealba (35)

  8. Doreen July 6th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Blake,

    I agree they had help last night, but the hit by Wells wasn’t a gift. And the led off hit by Adams set up,that inning. So the bookmarks to the poor play n between is what I look at. They capitalized on the situation, which hasn’t happened enough in the last month plus.

  9. blake July 6th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    July 6, 2013 at 7:56 am
    Murphy is nothing to get excited about. He is a .266 BA minor league hitter, and hit .268 at Trenton this year. Let’s hope he found himself at S/W.

    I don’t think anybody would expect him to be Buster Posey…..the only relevant question is is he better than what they have ?

  10. Tabbert July 6th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Once Granderson is cleared to begin his rehab assignment, how long do you think he will need? 10, 15, the entire 20 days? Sure would be nice to get him up to the Bronx before August.

  11. blake July 6th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    Doreen,

    True they won it when they had the chance and that’s good…..I just hope they don’t squander this good pitching staff that they have by failing to add offense. The twins have a way I making the yanks look better than they are……

  12. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:05 am

    Nova just missed having a two hit shutout.
    Had The game hero, Wells, jumped a little higher and to his left another few inches the homer that Weiter’s hit off the railing might have been caught. To bad Torii Hunter wasn’t playing LF last night.

  13. blake July 6th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    If the orioles had Mo they’d be in first place.

    Rivera is such an oddity and it’s going to really suck when he’s gone and we are left trying to avoid being Jim Johnsoned like everyone else……you could argue that Mo is the difference between the Yanks still being on the fringe of the race and not…..

  14. Tabbert July 6th, 2013 at 8:07 am

    Murphy might not be a long term answer, but why not see if you can ride that hot bat for a few weeks? He has had a great season, and what’s the worst that could happen? We could surely use any sparks that we can get in the lineup.

  15. blake July 6th, 2013 at 8:08 am

    The Yankees should and would sign Brian Mcann. I’m not sure what Hal Steinbrenners Yankees will do

  16. MG July 6th, 2013 at 8:08 am

    It is doubtful that Cervelli is back this year so the Yankees need help behind the plate.

    Romine has shown his bat isn’t major league and Stewart is going to hit a wall (if he hasn’t already) because he’s never caught this many games in a season before.

    They have too many pitchers on the team, why not bring up Murphy as a 3rd catcher for a week and give him a game or two before the All Star Break? I don’t see a downside and the upside is enormous.

  17. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    I don’t believe McCann will be going anywhere.
    He Was Born in Athens Georgia and grew up in Duluth, right outside of Atlanta.

  18. blake July 6th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Yankee Trader says:
    July 6, 2013 at 8:14 am
    I don’t believe McCann will be going anywhere.
    He Was Born in Athens Georgia and grew up in Duluth, right outside of Atlanta.

    Yup he did/….I just don’t get the feeling the braves will pay him

  19. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Blake

    The Braves will show him the money. The Yankees won’t. :(

  20. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    I was pretty impressed by Luis Cruz’ range and arm last night. When Jeter and Nunez come back, he’ll probably be the odd man out as Nix, a Girardi favorite, probably stays.

  21. jacksquat July 6th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    There’s a good chance Murphy is better than Romine, but if they bought him up they should give him more starts than Romine.

  22. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Still need a bat and someone who can also play first. Overbay had a single after one out in the bottom of the 8th, and Joe couldn’t send in a runner for him for lack of a basestealer on the bench, and a substitute first baseman.

    Thoughts?

    Logan Morrison
    Kendra’s Morales
    Michael Morse
    Michael Young

    All might become available

  23. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    Kendrys Morales

  24. Frankg July 6th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    Murphy could help, especially with Yankees success this year with call-ups for a short period.

    He is a converted catcher, not sure how good he is defensively and in calling games. His minor league hitting stats are actually worse than Romine’s.

  25. jacksquat July 6th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Was just checking some things, and Cruz is probably a better utility man than Nix.

    Cruz career UZR/150

    SS (662 inn): 10.8
    3B (605 inn): 25.6
    2B (73 inn): 3.9

    Nix career UZR/150

    3B (1238 inn): -3.2
    2B (891 inn): 12.5
    SS (616 inn): -10.3

    They don’t need Nix’s possible plus at 2B (Cruz small sample size there). Cruz is clearly better at SS and 3B.

    On top of that Cruz hit .297/.322/.431/.753 in 296 PA with the Dodgers last year, .331/.358/.497/.854 (!) out of Chavez Ravine. Supposedly his bad numbers with the Dodgers this year was because of having to deal with his father’s bad health (who is better now).

    I’d rather have Cruz. Cashman should tear Nixy from the arms of Girardi.

  26. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    I’m attaching an interesting read comparing the development of Hughes and Homer Bailey.

    Catch what SI had to say about Hughes early in his career.

    http://www.pinstripedbible.com.....t-analysis

  27. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Jacksquat

    Thanks for researching Cruz’ numbers.

  28. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Good morning

    Talking about old times made me check to see when I started posting here. The Nova and Hughes debate brought me over here. I was on another site and committed the cardinal sin of posting that Nova had a better toolbox than Hughes. (I’ve always been partial to sinkerballers vs SO pitchers. More efficient).

    Well – it was something like defacing the Sistine chapel. I was beaten to death with stats and stoned in effigy. Then I called Dunn “the walking pylon” and away we went again. It was fun for a while but then got to be boring.

    The whole site was in lockstep and any deviation was immediately censured. It was Tommy and the acolytes with more and more arcane versions of alphabet soup. Or bunting was always bad and any walk was good, defense meant very little and it got sillier from there.

    So I came over here and got into it with GB7 in one of his grumpy moods and nobody cared. It was great. Found out that I wasn’t that far from GB, (I do Grumpy as well) Miss the “old curmudgeon”. You could talk baseball with him and have fun at the same time. Switch to wiseass mode and totally distract him.

    So here we are – Hughes and Nova are pitching well and the debate could be started again.

  29. austinmac July 6th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    YT,

    Interesting article.

    We do still need a bat or two. Murphy is worth a shot. I vote for Morales as our addition although I prefer help into the future. I can’t imagine we will impact the cherished 2014 budget.

  30. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Bo

    Good morning.

    If the Nova I saw last night is the “real deal,” then there is no contest any more.

    10 GB outs with 3 FB outs in YS against the best home run hitting team.
    11 strikeouts
    Still had a 95mph fastball with movement in the 9th.

    Had Ace written all over him last night.

  31. Doreen July 6th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Bo knows,

    It is sometimes fun to take a walk down Lohud memory lane. It was for me also a little bit of a reminder that the more things change, the more they are the same. ;)

    For instance, I saw a post of my own from 2009 that could have been from yesterday with respect to blog dynamics, and how addictive this place is.

    From a 2009 post, I restate: “hi, I’m Doreen and I’m a Lohud blogoholic.”. ;)

  32. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Had Ace written all over him last night.
    ———-
    Boy, ain’t that the truth. I was just totally in awe. He was putting away some Hi Res hitters last night. Big time domination.

    I’m with you on Cruz. Good looking ball player. At least a level above the competition.

    Even Adams is starting to get over his stage fright. I’ve never seen anything like him before. The hitting talent is there and yet the inward spiral continued, totally baffling.

  33. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    From the above article comparing the development of Bailey vs. Hughes

    Hughes never developed the way he was expected to. Just look at this description from SI:

    “Far more impressive than Hughes’ heavy sinker or jaw-dropping curveball is his understanding of pitching; he is the most intelligent phenom in recent memory. Hughes does not give in to any bat, rarely allows free trips to first base, and gets groundballs consistently from the stretch. ”

    Umm…excuse me, Mr. Prospect Man, but that does not sound like Phil Hughes. Somewhere along the line, Hughes’ elite minor league ground ball rates flipped turned upside down, and when that happened, it essentially doomed him as a viable starter in Yankee Stadium. He also never developed an elite strikeout pitch to compensate for the lack of ground balls.

    If the Yankees get the chance to add a young bat and the team you are trading with wants either Hughes or Nova, by all means, trade Hughes, who IMHO has already reached his ceiling.

  34. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Where is MTU this morning?

  35. blake July 6th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    When nova is sinking the ball he’s good…..for whatever reason whether it be mechanical or intentional he got away from that last year and early this year…..

    the heavy 2 seamer he can throw kinda offsets the lack of deception in his delivery…..when he’s got that bowling ball movement like he did last night then the deception doesn’t matter cause hitters can’t square him up.

    If you can throw a 95 mph sinker then as long as its down then command and deception become much less critical…..hopefully they can bottle that from last night and keep him there….cause he will have any team fits with that stuff he had workin last night

  36. Madrugador July 6th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Wouldn’t you still have to consider Murphy a work in progress? If that is the case, I’d still bring him up but he would need to play regularly to continue to develop and I don’t see the Yanks doing that.
    Also, would the real Nova please stand up.

  37. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    With Jeter, Arod and Nunez all returning within a couple, three weeks and Granderson I imagine within a month or so there really are two places that need upgrades that will not be addressed by the return of the wounded; catcher and 1B.

    I would give JR some time in the big leagues, it won’t kill his development and he could get teamed up with one pitcher at a time to learn the staff. He can help this team. Stewart has been solid but he will hit a wall. Romine is not a big league hitter at this point.

    THe other is 1B, OVerbay looks like he is on fumes, they need to find a guy who can hit LHP and be a passable 1B. Is Ruiz at AAA an answer, if yes, what is keeping them from giving him a try?

    If not, they need to package Hughes/Joba for a guy who will help them beyond this year.

    Hughes and Joba are history might as well get something for them.

  38. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Although it is a really SSS, Cruz has impressed me both in the field and his approach at the plate. He is aggressive and looks to have an ability to drive the ball.

    If I’m NY, given their lack of SS candidates, I hold onto this guy for now, somehow.

  39. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    I don’t expect Nova to repeat the performance he had yesterday anytime soon. He was simply dominating against a dangerous offensive team. He had it all together.

    However, he has shown the ability often enough to settle in as a solid mid-rotation starter and if he can accomplish just that, then the Yankees will finally have some fruit out of all their SP development efforts and have a good cost controlled SP that they definitely need.

  40. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    IF, the Phillies made FA’s Carlos Ruiz and Michael Young available, and the cost was acceptable to obtain two 35 plus year olds, then the Yankees could send Romine back to the minors and wait until September to bring up JR Murphy.

  41. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Ladies final now on at Wimbledon.

    So glad I don’t have to press the mute button. No grunting!

  42. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    What in the actual f*ck was going on here last night..? Randy and Tin Cup and Costner, oh my!

  43. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    YT: both of those guys are good candidates to help this team this year and both of them know what its like to play in games that count in front of fans that are not passive.

    Question is what does NY have that they’d want to get rid of that PHI would be interested in?

  44. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Also, for future reference: Anyone on this blog can buy me a beer.

    In fact.. anyone can buy Shame a beer (or a car, or jewelry, or Backstreet Boys tickets).

  45. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    I do love Cash’s riddle talk.. it sounds very much like we could see JR in the bigs this season. I’d be thrilled.

    So would MTU!! (And a bunch of others, of course!)

  46. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    blake July 6th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Also….I know this winning streak is cool and all and it’s nice but lets not let it blind is to the truth. The yanks won last night but they were a Jim Johnson away from losing 2-1 and squandering a great start by Nova.

    Not trying to be a Debbie downer but this offense is still pretty bad and they need legit help if they want to accomplish something this year

    ———————-

    I’m glad we’re moving in on the O’s but this 5 game win streak has only helped us keep pace with the Sox.

    Gotta believe that playing 20+ road games over the next month will bring the Sox back down to Earth a little but their schedule over the next few series is on the soft side. We need to keep winning.

    A 6 game winning streak is so much better than a 5 game winning streak. #TeamGreedy

  47. jacksquat July 6th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 8:45 am
    Jacksquat

    Thanks for researching Cruz’ numbers.

    I hadn’t even seen your post. It appears we were thinking about Cruz at the same time.

  48. mick July 6th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Last nights altercations were beyond neurotic, passive aggressive , mostly drunk if you ask me…
    Why nick would drill down so hard on Ys comments re: Randy are disturbing.
    Hope this wasn’t your idea of fun as I found it boring after reading all of it back inc. where pruf said some here were clueless so he ignores them (me) but it’s ok I get to say whatever without his passive aggressive putdowns which always expose him for the most unlikable fraud on the blog, oh wait, perhaps ive said too much…

  49. blake July 6th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Hal should forget the budget and call the Twins and offer to take both Mauer and Morneau off their hands. Those two plus getting Jeter, Arod, and Granderson back could make them legit contender.

  50. blake July 6th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Ok I guess I’ll have to go read last nights comments

  51. mick July 6th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    oh btw good job Ys guy on the exposing part….

  52. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    blake; I’d take Mauer in a heartbeat, but I just can’t imagine the Twins trading their home-town hero anytime soon especially to a hated team like the Yankees.

    Twins fans would not accept it and they would want retribution.

    Morneau is intriguing but I don’t think he offers enough incremental upgrade over O-Bay for the likely price the Twins would insist on from NY.

  53. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Going to the game today………gonna be a hot one

  54. mick July 6th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    mauer at 23 per? , fuggetaboutit.

  55. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Quoting ‘Forensic’ of RAB who pulled stats from Brooks on Nova

    He threw 102 pitches this game. According to Brooks, he threw 41 4-seamers (40%), 24 2-seamers (24%), 33 curves (32%), and 4 changeups (4%). 64% total fastballs between 4- and 2-seamers.
    He threw 103 pitches in his start against Tampa almost 2 weeks ago. He threw 24 4-seamers (23%), 23 sinkers (22%, not sure why they call them sinkers this game and 2-seamers the other one, but they’re essentially the same thing), 50 curves (49%), and 6 changeups (6%). 45% total fastballs between 4- and 2-seamers.

    ——————

    Anyway, I would hazard a guess that the fine hand of Patterson was involved. That was awfully quick and a complete turnaround. I don’t know enough about pitching to make valid observations other than “Boy, was he dominating.”

  56. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    “Morneau is intriguing but I don’t think he offers enough incremental upgrade over O-Bay for the likely price the Twins would insist on from NY.”

    He destroys YS though….. I really just want Mauer …..I enjoy watching him hit as much as anybody in baseball….

  57. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Mauer is a guy that would transform the Yankees line-up, maybe not worth 23 but there is nobody like him on the Yankees not even remotely.

    He is an OB and hitting machine and my sense is he would thrive in NY and Yankee stadium.

  58. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Not trying to be a Debbie downer but this offense is still pretty bad and they need legit help if they want to accomplish something this year

    ———————-

    I’m glad we’re moving in on the O’s but this 5 game win streak has only helped us keep pace with the Sox.

    Gotta believe that playing 20+ road games over the next month will bring the Sox back down to Earth a little but their schedule over the next few series is on the soft side. We need to keep winning.

    A 6 game winning streak is so much better than a 5 game winning streak. #TeamGreedy

    ——–
    Six game streak sounds good to me

  59. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Mauer is over paid…..however he’s not nearly as over paid as some players and he’s still good and should age well as a hitter. He’d really make the lineup way better

  60. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    He is an OB and hitting machine and my sense is he would thrive in NY and Yankee stadium.”

    He’s basically a prime aged Derek Jeter offensively….gets on base even more than Jete did. He’s pretty much awesome

  61. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Andy Pettitte is due for a gem……

  62. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    I would only bring up Murphy if they played him everyday

  63. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Andy Pettitte is due for a gem…
    ————–
    I don’t think Andy can sustain a gem. His body is breaking down.

  64. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Yea they need to get Andy back on track

  65. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:05 am
    Andy Pettitte is due for a gem…
    ————–
    I don’t think Andy can sustain a gem. His body is breaking down.
    ————
    I hope he’s got more left……

  66. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    I would resist temptation on Murphy. Too much developmental setback at risk. A walking case in point is Romine.

  67. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Blake—-my son might be a bigger Carolina fan than you…….he is obsessed with Carolina football

  68. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    I think you’re right on Murphy

  69. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    GregD says:
    July 6, 2013 at 10:08 am
    Blake—-my son might be a bigger Carolina fan than you…….he is obsessed with Carolina football

    Football? He must enjoy pain ;)

  70. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    I hope he’s got more left……
    —————-
    We all do. Ya gotta admire the competitive fire in the old hoss.

    Andy talking to himself on the mound is one of my baseball warms.

  71. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Blake—-he researches all their recruits …..thinks they will win 10 games this year

  72. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    GregD says:
    July 6, 2013 at 10:11 am
    Blake—-he researches all their recruits …..thinks they will win 10 games this year

    Man I hope….it’s been awhile since they were relevant….

  73. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    I like the way Cruz swings the bat

  74. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Blake

    McCann and now Mauer. One can dream! :)

  75. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    I would worry about Mauer breaking down…..he has been injured….back issues?

  76. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    ….I would resist temptation on Murphy. Too much developmental setback at risk. A walking case in point is Romine…

    Disagree. 1-2 games a week at the big league level will give him a taste of the bigs and also give the much vaunted catching trio of Joe G, Pena and Stewart the chance to impart some catching wisdom to the future yankee back-stop that I think can help his devlopment that AAA reps can’t match.

  77. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Football? He must enjoy pain
    ————–
    Never understood the need to get whacked over and over and over. I learned about pain from the heating element at three. Pain to me means “Don’ do dat”, not go do it some more.

  78. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I think Adams would become a decent player if given long enough

  79. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Blake I agree on Adams……just think he needs more time in AAA and then come back at get after it

  80. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    GregD says:
    July 6, 2013 at 10:15 am
    I would worry about Mauer breaking down…..he has been injured….back issues?

    I think you’d just have to limit how much he catches
    …. I think he’d hit 20 plus homers in Yankee stadium though……along with a .330 BA and .400 on base

  81. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I have no problem with them bringing up Murphy. I’d love to see him play and I’d hope that if they did call him up they’d let him at the very least split time 50/50 with Stewart. That being said, they would lose an arb year by calling him up before September, so I’ve always been skeptical they’d do so. With Cervelli having a setback, however, and the team 6 games back, there might be more pressure to get him up asap.

    Almonte has just been a revelation. I dunno how long he can keep it up but he’s been fun to watch.

    Adams has slowly started taking more walks and I was so happy to see him put together some good ABs and get a hit in a key spot.

  82. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Disagree. 1-2 games a week at the big league level will give him a taste of the bigs and also give the much vaunted catching trio of Joe G, Pena and Stewart the chance to impart some catching wisdom to the future yankee back-stop that I think can help his devlopment that AAA reps can’t match.
    ——————–
    You know Butch Wynegar is in Scranton, yes? Very respected coach. Scranton is develop, New York is succeed now. To quote a phrase, “catchers need time”.

  83. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 10:24 am

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    Morneau as a rental isn’t a bad deal. He’s better than Overbay (incremental or not we need to take whatever improvements we can get) and will be gone after this season.

    That being said.. I’m still trying to find a way to get Headley and force the Yankees to play Arod at 1B! :twisted:

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    I’d like to know who got Nova sinking the ball again….somebody at Scranton fixed him

  85. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Lets say the Yankees could get FA Carlos Ruiz for Joba, and also trade a B level prospect/prospects to get Michael Young plus take on their remaining FA salaries.

    Wouldn’t a roster of these 13

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    SS Jeter
    3B ARod
    C Ruiz
    RF Ichiro
    CF Gardner
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  86. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    You know Butch Wynegar is in Scranton, yes? Very respected coach. Scranton is develop, New York is succeed now. To quote a phrase, “catchers need time”.

    Thanks for pointing that out, but I think I understand now as it was almost too difficult to keep up.

    It really is a better idea for Romine to hit .140 in key games that are “succeed now,” while JR hits .290 in games that don’t matter. Ok, I guess a few key ABs by the b/u catcher the rest of the way won’t make any difference in whether NY can grab a WC, ok, might as well dismiss it with cliches….

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    The Padres may have overplayed their hand on Headley…..they really should have traded him last winter but they waited and he got hurt and now he’s struggling and his value isn’t what it was. They could still get value for him but maybe not enough to deal him…..they may be forced to keep him now and hope he has a good 2nd half again rather than sell low

  89. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 10:27 am

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    I’d like to know who got Nova sinking the ball again….somebody at Scranton fixed him

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    I think it was some guy named ‘Diss’ …

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    The Yankees can not even convince Ian Stewart.

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  92. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Would that roster of 13 get the Yankees into a deeper run in the playoffs?

  93. pat July 6th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    and Phelps sent down?

  94. blake July 6th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    @BryanHoch: David Phelps not listed on Yankees roster

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  95. pat July 6th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Gardner 8, Ichiro 9, Cano 4, Hafner DH, Almonte 7, Overbay 3, Cruz 5, Nunez 6, Stewart 2. LHP Pettitte.

  96. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    It really is a better idea for Romine to hit .140 in key games that are “succeed now,” while JR hits .290 in games that don’t matter. Ok, I guess a few key ABs by the b/u catcher the rest of the way won’t make any difference in whether NY can grab a WC, ok, might as well dismiss it with cliches
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    Easy, easy, don’t knot your tighty whities. Not cruising here.

    It’s almost impossible to keep your timing playing a couple of times a week. It wasn’t that long ago that Murphy was hitting 270 in AA and years past. His hitting mechanics are still fragile. Romine’s skill set is better than 140. The pressure to perform is the killer.

  97. yankee21 July 6th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Bo you might be right, I’m not gonna fall on the sword with this issue, but I will say this it is hurting this team having a guy catch 2 times a week and not offer anything at the plate. EIther they bring up JR or they find another guy cause as we can tell even today, Stewart is catching a day game after a night game because Andy can’t work with Romine apparently and Romine can’t hit.

    Stewart will hit a wall and then what?

  98. GregD July 6th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Nova’s gem sent Phelps down……he needs to start as they already have a long man

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  100. Shame Spencer July 6th, 2013 at 10:41 am

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    Nova’s gem sent Phelps down……he needs to start as they already have a long man

    ———————

    It really shouldn’t have been one or the other.. they should rest either Kuroda or Andy before the break.

  101. CountryClub July 6th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    So in a few days Scranton will have both Phelps and Pineda in the rotation. When it comes to pitching depth, that’s not too shabby.

  102. DONNYBROOK July 6th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    - IF IT’S MY CAll -

    (1) Bat Cruz behind Cano. Cruz Already is the best (RH) stick on the team.

    (2) I would go Gardner, Stewart, Cano, Cruz, Ichiro, Almonte, Wells vs (RH)

    (3) CUT Hafner.. He Can Not play a position, or hit Anything other than a fastball.

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    If Stewart continues to catch every single day you can guarantee that he will break down very soon. He will pull a hamstring or oblique and be out for 4-6 weeks. Romine stinks but unless Cashman finds someone else they have to play him more often.

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    Man I hope….it’s been awhile since they were relevant….”

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    Awesome win, but they should address the Romine issue because it’s becoming counter productive for him to be on this team.

  108. Bo knows July 6th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Stewart will hit a wall and then what?
    ————–
    Agreed, I think Stewart has already hit the wall. I’ve always been a big Cervelli fan and look at wasted years rushing him from a few at bats in AA.

    The problem is that if Murphy gets called up and pulls a Romine, then you have two crash and burn victims

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