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In search of offense; A-Rod suspension reportedly coming

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 10, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees Jeter BaseballThe Yankees’ games seem to go fast, so much faster than they used to than in previous years when this team could hit. There were just six hits, all singles, Tuesday night in the 3-1 loss to Kansas City, the Yankees’ third straight setback, all at home. They had just one hit after the second inning. The game lasted just two hours, 29 minutes.

“We’re going to have to score more runs,” Joe Girardi said. “I believe they can do it.”

He praised the effort of his hitters and refused to make a plea for outside help as the nonwaiver deal deadline gets closer.

“As I’m asked that question on a yearly basis, what you’re asking me to do is kind of put down the guys in that room and I’ll never do that,” Girardi said.

He will have to hope the injured guys can get up and running in a hurry when they return, although outside help would sure be helpful, too. He will settle first for Derek Jeter’s help very soon.

“I think his presence is going to help us,” Girardi said. “He’s used to so many things that happen in New York and understands the landscape here. I think his attitude will help us.”

How much Alex Rodriguez will help in the second half is questionable. Besides the issue of performance after the second hip operation in four years, the latest ESPN report has a suspension by MLB over the Biogenensis scandal expected at some point after the All-Star Game, which will have a large cloud over it with about 20 players in this boat. You would think A-Rod would be able to play during the appeal process. Here’s a link to my Yankees notebook with items on A-Rod, Jeter and Travis Hafner.

Plus, here’s my article on the team’s latest offensive struggle and the waste of CC Sabathia’s complete game. And I have a look back at the Pine Tar Game with the 30th anniversary coming later this month and George Brett in town with the Royals.

Hey everyone, Chad here, just jumping in on Brian’s post to say I’m going to host a quick chat today at noon. The offense hasn’t been much to talk about, so why don’t we talk about that?

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294 Responses to “In search of offense; A-Rod suspension reportedly coming”

  1. blake July 10th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    They should have been searching for real offense 6 months ago.

  2. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Given the age on the roster, they should have been searching for young offensive options since the end of the 2011 season.

  3. jacksquat July 10th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Martin signed really quick in the offseason, way before the Yankees even knew if they would/could sign Kuroda and/or Pettitte. I certainly did not expect them to priortize fricken Russell Martin who most derided while he was a Yankee.

    Martin also ops’d .713 in 2012, and Cervelli’s career ops is .710. So yes, it certainly could be expected that Cervelli could approximate what Martin produced.

    The crying about Martin is ridiculous.

  4. blake July 10th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    The Yankees now have a -6 run differential and their 350 runs scored is last in the AL east by 55 runs……the Red Sox have scored 123 more runs than the Yankees have and only 3 teams in the AL have scored fewer…..the woeful White Sox, Mariners, and Astros.

    Averaging 3.8 runs a game….sad. They are on pace to score 630 runs this year…..that’s incredible…..almost 300 run decline a year decline since 2009.

  5. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Let’s cry about AJP instead.

  6. blake July 10th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    “The crying about Martin is ridiculous.”

    no it’s not….he was a legit starting catcher and they didn’t have one and still don’t. Cervelli hadn’t played in the big leagues in over a year……they gambled big time at the catcher position and crapped out. Martin gave them a chance…..he actually said in a report that he offered to take a one year deal and they said no….he wanted to stay….they wanted to prove how smart they were and let Chris Stewart frame pitches to victory……

  7. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    btw, According to Sherman, Cashman did prioritize Martin but was overruled by Levine who wanted Ichiro.

  8. blake July 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Martin or AJP either one …..they should have gotten a real catcher if they wanted to compete. Stewart is a back up and they had no idea what Cervelli was……

  9. blake July 10th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    “btw, According to Sherman, Cashman did prioritize Martin but was overruled by Levine who wanted Ichiro.”

    this is why I’m always hesitant to criticize Cashman too much…..because I just don’t know how the decisions were made. For all we know Cashman may have wanted to do a lot of things differently over the last few years (like Darvish, Cespedes, Puig, etc)…..and was told no by ownership.

  10. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    this is why I’m always hesitant to criticize Cashman too much…..because I just don’t know how the decisions were made. For all we know Cashman may have wanted to do a lot of things differently over the last few years (like Darvish, Cespedes, Puig, etc)…..and was told no by ownership.
    _

    Sure, and that was my primary defense of him for years, but the failure to develop talent has to be primarily put on him, and to me, that’s sufficient reason to replace him.

  11. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    “There’s no crying in Baseball!”

    Breakfast Club:

    Cashman is getting a lot of heat on the blog, and probably, rightly, so. However lets look at a “what if” scenario if the FO had not given ARod that 275M, 10 year extension in December of 2007. Cashman supposedly was ready to let him walk.

    ARod finally admits to steroid use before the start of the 2009 season. The Yankees play poorly until they get a verbal tongue lashing at a meeting held with Cashman, after a loss to rookie Tommy Hanson.

    They go on to the WS and win in 6 games. ARod hits .250, leads the team with 8 strikeouts, and gets one homer on the 1st use of replay, on what was initially ruled a double.

    This is the “what if” game. If ARod walks in 2007, what moves “might have’ the Yankees made instead?

    Thoughts?

  12. Mike in Chicago July 10th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Is it just me, or does Jeter look like he is standing next to a Lilliputian in that photo? And he is the one furthest away from the lens.

    Derek Jeter starring in MY GIANT II.

  13. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    YT

    Both the trade for, and the recommendation against re-signing him (at least without a subsidy comparable to the one in the pre-existing contract, because I think it’s safe to assume that Cashman would have been ok with extending A-Rod a few years on top of the years remaining in the old contract) are Cashman’s finest moves as GM.

    But the reason they are so reliant on money is because they cannot develop, and again, that is why I think Cashman and all his people are past their sell-by date.

    Hal doesn’t seem to care, so Cashman will be here forever.

  14. Bo knows July 10th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Sure, and that was my primary defense of him for years, but the failure to develop talent has to be primarily put on him, and to me, that’s sufficient reason to replace him.
    ————–
    Of course putting Oppenheimer on a budget, while other teams were overspending can be put at Cashman’s door.

    This meant the Yankees drafting HS payers as opposed to College, thus prolonging and increasing the risk of player development. The suits have interfered with baseball operations in all facets since 2009.

  15. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Later. Enjoy the day.

  16. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Here’s a list from MLBTR’s of the top 50 free agents, in the 2007 offseason, at the time the article was written and where they might go:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....0-fre.html

  17. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    “Sure, and that was my primary defense of him for years, but the failure to develop talent has to be primarily put on him, and to me, that’s sufficient reason to replace him.”

    he’s still cobbled together winners though every year……I think they got a late start in the development game and it takes awhile to make it happen…..I mean years to actually hit on enough players to make an impact. The ownership has also tightened the budget internationally and in the draft too……when you’re the yankees and you’re going off the grid in the first round and playing the signability game and all that then something is wrong.

    Cashman deserves some blame….but the buck stops with Hal and I continue to believe he’s the guy that’s pulling a lot of these strings.

  18. Rich in NJ July 10th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Of course putting Oppenheimer on a budget, while other teams were overspending can be put at Cashman’s door.

    This meant the Yankees drafting HS payers as opposed to College, thus prolonging and increasing the risk of player development. The suits have interfered with baseball operations in all facets since 2009.
    _

    All right, one more.

    Let’s say that after Brackman (and the failed attempt at Cole) there was a budget.

    Did that force them to draft Culver and Bichette and not talent that was more projectable? I don’t think so.

    The defenses of Cashman cannot reasonably be that unless things are perfect, he gets a pass.

    He got to pay overslot for Joba, IPK, AJack and others.

    Sometimes you need to be able to flourish on a lower budget. Other teams have done it for years.

    Now, I have to work.

  19. Frankg July 10th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Russell Martin was an average catcher in my opinion. The Yankees were justified in letting him go and to see what Cervelli could offer. I don’t recall many teams being interested in signing Martin when he was a free agent. When your best offer comes from Pittsburgh, that tells you something about his value. At one point, Girardi had to teach him how to call pitches.

    Martin typifies the type of over-paid mediocrity the Yankees were engaged in. It’s called “check book” general managing and I’m glad Steinbrenner put a stop to it.

  20. Doreen July 10th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    It’s not just hitting – it’s that their at-bats are as hard-fought as they used to be on a large scale. They used to have more hitters that worked the count better, fouled more balls off, got walks (and even if it ended up in an out, it wasn’t as often a strike-out or at least so it seems).

    Not saying these guys aren’t working hard, but for the most part, these are complementary players playing full-time roles, and they’ve been depended upon for longer than was anticipated. Granderson, Tex and Youkilis were all supposed to return; two of those three won’t be back at all this season and Grandy is slow in recovering this time around.

    I don’t expect much from Jeter when he returns, though is mere presence will be a sight for sore eyes. Who the heck knows what’s going to happen with ARod. Even if he somehow escapes suspension, I have no idea what’s going on with his rehab except that it is slowish. (And even a 50-game suspension kills the season at this point).

    Whatever they get this year, they get. If they somehow keep their head above water and reinforcements add to the mix, PLUS getting some much-needed time for those complementary players gives them a second wind, perhaps there’s a modicum of hope. Stranger things have happened in a baseball season. But it don’t look good.

    I am kinda with Girardi here – it does no good to denigrate the players who are doing the best they can (working as hard as they can). Effort/results don’t always have any relationship. You can quibble with some of Girardi’s lineups and choices for resting players, but really, seriously, what actual difference does it make?

    Kuroda and Sabathia did yeoman’s work and got nothing to show for it.

    Far too many games where they’ve scored one or zero runs.

    Far too many games where most of the hits are singles, few walks taken, and station-to-station base running.

    Far too few sac flies, productive outs.

    Far too many Ks.

    And in a sense, Girardi is right – you can’t ask certain players to do what they aren’t capable of doing, but at the same time, isn’t it worthing trying ANYTHING if you’re going to lose anyway?

  21. Doreen July 10th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Martin wasn’t as good as I’d hoped he’d be in the overall picture, HOWEVER, he worked a count very well, took his walks, and contributed some well-placed home runs in spite of the low batting average.

    Chris Stewart is doing the best he can, but you can see he gets tired, and Romine is in a stinky situation. He shouldn’t be here at all – he should be getting daily work in SWB, and the Yankees knew it in ST.

  22. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    who is searching for offense? if bringing ishikawa is searching really hard then I am afraid if he is not making too much effort.

  23. Tackelberry July 10th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Well, whoever has been asking about that Cuban SS Diaz signing.; here is your answer
    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....false-age/

  24. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    “Russell Martin was an average catcher in my opinion. The Yankees were justified in letting him go and to see what Cervelli could offer. ”

    yea he’s a big league average starting catcher…..they don’t have one of those now. Cervelli might have been if he hadn’t gotten hurt but there was no way to know that…..his early season play could have been a mirage like the rest of the club’s in April.

  25. austinmac July 10th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I guess the first place Pirates were check book general managing when they signed Martin.

  26. Tackelberry July 10th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I had no problem letting Martin go. He was another homer/K/DP guy. I had a problem with them not making aplkay for AJ Perzynski as a replacement.

  27. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Two points, first everyone should now know that no mgr. or coach will rip his players publically, it does not foster camaraderie. So let’s desist with the complaints about Girardi vis a vis why this or that relative to the roster he’s been given.

    Second, why are we talking about Russell Martin? Stewart is actually doing quite well given there is no legitimate back up and he looks exhausted.

    More to the point was Martin and his “Mendoza” BA the answer for this roster?

    Age, multiple injuries and an unproductive minor league system, strikes 1-2-3!

  28. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    this whole thing started with the premise that we are going to win with pitching. They refuse to release the likes of eppley and instead release batters to make room. Then they choose the wrong batters to retain like the great ben Francisco. At the beginning of the season, it was great bec. the rejects were playing way over their heads and the pitchers are living to their billings. Fast forward to 1 month after, the rejects shows their true colors and the pitchers did not just sustain their efforts but regress so the result is here we are now so desperate that we think ishikawa is an upgrade.

  29. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    “I had no problem letting Martin go. He was another homer/K/DP guy. I had a problem with them not making aplkay for AJ Perzynski as a replacement.”

    either one would have been good.

  30. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Blake, you are saying Hal is “pulling the strings”?

    On what, finances where the team is over 200mm. this year and committed to spend 189mm. next, at least publically?

    Surely you’re not saying in personnel matters, are you?

    Hal et al are into estate planning not being amateur GM’s!

  31. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    “Two points, first everyone should now know that no mgr. or coach will rip his players publically, it does not foster camaraderie. So let’s desist with the complaints about Girardi vis a vis why this or that relative to the roster he’s been given.”

    Girardi has nothing to do with any of this…..hes doing a fine job trying to make lemonade out of a team full of lemons. Not much he can do…..

  32. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    “Blake, you are saying Hal is “pulling the strings”?”

    sure….he’s the owner. He’s not involved with the day to day signing of Luis Cruz’s etc but he has to authorize the big stuff and my guess he’s been saying no a lot the last couple of years. When you put your GM in a position where they can’t spend long term money and have an aging roster then it’s sorta a tough spot……you realize that to actually get under the cap their payroll will have to be closer to 170 that 189 right? And that that’s lopping about 60 million off where they are right now……good luck in 2014.

  33. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Blake, num,erous players “would have been better than we have”, but they all cost money which the organization did not want to spend.

    What exactly is your criticism of anyone above Cashman?

    Cashman is like Sather and the Rangers only his hiccups have been for a shorter period.

    The biggest being a lack of vision for the future while assuming big bucks would continue to create winners. The buck (no pun intended) stops with him!

  34. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    come on blake. girardi has some faults too. Girardi refusal to sit wells is an example. Girardi stubbornness like using joba and logan to a fault cause some games. I still believe girardi mishandles the romine situation and even adams.

  35. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    - KEYS TO UNLOCKING OFFENSIVE MALAISE -

    (1) DO NOT have Hafner batting behind Cano. Hafner does Not provide Cano with protection, he Actually provides the other team with an escape hatch. This gets into batting order contstruction, the subject of which has Girardi doing a Helen Keller.

    (2) 3RD Base coach Must be aggressive – As DeNiro said in Ronin, “When there’s doubt, there IS no doubt”. Send the man.

    (3) Cruz should bat behind Cano. Cruz usually puts the ball in play, frequently hits the ball hard even when he makes an out, and can bunt if you wanna safety squeeze a run home late inna game. He’s a versatile offensive player, that a multi dimensional Mgr can put to good use in a variety of ways offensively.

  36. Jesus Bustero July 10th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Surprise surprise.

  37. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    http://riveraveblues.com/

    Cano is walking a lot more….which is great….problem is that nobody behind him can hit so it doesn’t matter. Hopefully Robbie will keep getting on base though and not feel pressed to do more himself……

  38. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    “vis a vis”. Come on, this is a Baseball blog.

  39. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Blake, in effect what your saying is Cashman could not do the job with an over 200mm. payroll!

    Or to put it more accurately as I did in my previous post, he has not spent wisely nor paid attention to the systemic failures of the organization.

  40. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    “come on blake. girardi has some faults too. Girardi refusal to sit wells is an example. ”

    who is he going to play instead? It’s not like Giancarlo Stanton is sitting over there saying put me in coach……..

  41. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Donny, really if you can’t drive in the fast lane pull to the ladies lane and drive 40mph.,oui?

    ;)

  42. Bo knows July 10th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    He got to pay overslot for Joba, IPK, AJack and others.

    Sometimes you need to be able to flourish on a lower budget. Other teams have done it for years.
    ————
    Yep prior to the 09 cutoff. The suits forced Soriano on Cashman, thus losing the pick and then came the Culver, Bichette crunch when they really clamped down. The two were signed for slot so the drafting team would have money for later picks. And let’s not go on to Newman and Contreras that Cashman inherited. Newman is still motoring on.

  43. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    “Blake, in effect what your saying is Cashman could not do the job with an over 200mm. payroll!”

    the payroll number is misleading because so much of the money is wasted or dead money……when you can only do one year deals you have to over pay for those 1 year deals. I’m not saying Cashman is perfect……but I’m not sure what else he could have done this past winter if he wasn’t allowed to do multi – year contracts with players.

  44. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    blake,

    Against righty then, he could have use boesch then but still let wells bat cleanup even when he is horrible. Oh I would not go to the great ben Francisco thing bec. it brings back nightmare.

  45. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    how do we know Cashman didn’t want to sign Darvish and Cespedes and keep Montero? How do we know he didn’t want to keep Martin or sign AJP? How do we know he didn’t want to sign Matt Holliday years ago and keep Austin Jackson? We don’t know those things……

    As I’ve said before…..I think Cashman has good skills in some areas and I think they should keep him and bump him up to a president position and hire a new GM with a smaller market and development background. They need new voices…..

  46. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Blake, this time you are absolutely correct.

    You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken s**t!

    We may discuss many aspects of the game but to presume that we know more about personnel and strategy than people who have played the game professionally, managed etc. successfully is….well presumptuous!

  47. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    I’d be interested in how much of that $200 Mill is Now being paid by Insurance? Hal better pony up come July 31 or he is gonna be Public Enemy #1.

  48. blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    “Against righty then, he could have use boesch then but still let wells bat cleanup even when he is horrible. Oh I would not go to the great ben Francisco thing bec. it brings back nightmare.”

    do you really think it would make a difference? Perhaps Girardi thinks his best bet is to just hope the Vern from early in the year comes back…..he doesn’t have a lot of options…..it’s a terrible offense no matter how you stack it or who you play.

  49. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    From what I hear, Cashman sharpens a mean pencil. END of story.

  50. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    blake,

    Wells was so horrible that I thought he was blind. With how bad wells was, boesch could have made a difference for sure. Back then, I was not sure whether I want him to put the ball on play bec. of dp or strikeout.

  51. comnsnse July 10th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Omigod Blake, you are attributing your own opinions about personnel in defending your argument.

    While at the same time tacitly suggesting Cashman might have wanted to do so?

    You’ve read his mind, are you really Kreskin? ;)

    In any enterprise when the ship goes down the Captain goes with it!

  52. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    I am more upset with the minor league development. Early on, I checked their stats then got frustrated so I seldom checked them anymore and instead read the summary from riverblues.

  53. Bo knows July 10th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    The Yankees are sitting on six injuries to position players. Jeter and A Rod were hurt, so were their replacements. That leaves three players to carry the load with varying degrees of success. God forbid one of them have an off week or two as in what happened to Cano and more recently Gardner. Ichiro is an old man, it’s amazing that he’s still semi productive.

    Wells is totally baffling – as someone said, the bat speed is there, I would say the pressure to perform is killing him. Can’t handle it.

  54. Disco July 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Did the article state A-Rod’s impact will be questionable?

    You do realize we’ve been playing David Adams, Jayson Nix, Alberto Gonzalez, and Luis Cruz at third. You do realize our lineup the other night with Ishikawa was arguably the worst lineup in baseball- and one could say baseball history.

    One armed A-Rod will still have a huge upgrade and hate him or not, we need him- for 2013 at least.

  55. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    “Omigod Blake, you are attributing your own opinions about personnel in defending your argument.”

    yea so….I never said it was fact.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    blake July 10th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    how do we know Cashman didn’t want to sign Darvish and Cespedes and keep Montero?
    ///

    Because he himself told us that he “has a dream.”

  57. rm July 10th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I am beginning to think the return of Alfonso Soriano is a possibility

  58. pat July 10th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Presence is overrated. They need Derek’s bat.

  59. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Super Selig vs. Mega Shark

    (Please don’t tell me talking about this isn’t more fun than talking about last night’s game. That would make you a lie teller.)

  60. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    How do we know he didn’t want to sign Matt Holliday years ago and keep Austin Jackson? We don’t know those things……
    ////

    Holliday was a money thing, ad somehow he “convinced” ownership to sign Tex.

    How on earth could getting rid of AJax and Kennedy for Granderson be anyone else’s call but Cashman’s? That’s just unreasonable.

    And who in hell thought it a great idea to trade Cabrera for Javy Vazquez, if not Cashman, who is the General Manager.

    The IFAs, ownership may have balked at.

    But this obsession with pitching, to the exclusion of offense, and at the expense of the little youth you had in your lineup, either incumbent or on the verge, with no understanding that your team’s best players were in decline and aging, is on Brian Cashman.

    And no one who is prioritizing pitching like Cashman has to the neglect of offense, is doing it under duress, when they clearly relish repeating idiotic slogans like “pitching is the keys to the kingdom,” “Pitching wins,” and the aforementioned. and apparently inspired: “I have a dream.”

  61. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    blake July 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Martin or AJP either one …..they should have gotten a real catcher if they wanted to compete. Stewart is a back up and they had no idea what Cervelli was……

    ————

    Napoli.

  62. Disco July 10th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    “We may discuss many aspects of the game but to presume that we know more about personnel and strategy than people who have played the game professionally, managed etc. successfully is….well presumptuous!”

    I agree and disagree. On something like managing Major League personalities and knowing the ML lifestyle, etc, obviously someone who played or managed is going to be the authority. But we also know a lot of those people are stuck in neutral when it comes to building a team or being an in-game manager. For example we know nowadays bunting is a terrible idea most of the time, but managers still love it.

    And where’s the fun in not being able to be the guy who sits at home thinking he’d be the best manager in the world!

  63. Disco July 10th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    JAP

    I believe the AJAX trade and a lot of moves were Cashman’s. But it’s no secret that sometimes people above him want to stick their noses in the baseball decisions (usually with negative consequences). For example, it was Randy Levine’s idea to give $15mil or however much it was to Soriano for three years. It was someone’s idea to give A-Rod this mega deal when Cashman wanted him to walk. And I’m pretty sure higher ups had a hand in Cash not going after Darvish, Cespedes, etc.

  64. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    “How on earth could getting rid of AJax and Kennedy for Granderson be anyone else’s call but Cashman’s? That’s just unreasonable.”

    well if Cashman thought they needed a bat and replacement for Damon and Matsui and wanted to sign Holliday but was told no…….then maybe he made the trade instead? I’m speculating of course but we don’t know how things played out. Same reason he may have felt pressured to trade Montero for Pineda….maybe he wanted to sign Darvish but was told no

  65. austinmac July 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I sometimes scratch my head at some of Girardi’s decisions, but he has done a very good job to have a winning record with tthis team. Winning while being outscored for the year does have to indicate good work by the manager.

    We will never know who makes the decisions on various issues. All I know is that person cannot see beyond today. It has been obvious for the last several years the team was rapidly aging. My goodness, simply look at the roster. Yet, they took no steps to deal with it by acquiring young talent. In fact, they shunned it if it was costly. That is and will impact the team for a long time.

    I say again, this year will look like the glory days come 2014 and 2015. Take this roster and remove $60M in payroll while still overpaying so many.

  66. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I don’t think Mega Shark could destroy Bud’s fake hair…..

  67. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    say what you want about Cash but he’s won a lot in his tenure…..no other GM or team can even come close to his record when it comes to wins and championships. Did the payroll he’s been given help? Sure…..but a lot of other teams have spent a lot of money over the last 2 decades too and haven’t gotten much or anything to show for it….(Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, etc).

    He’s made mistakes but for folks to act like he’s some clueless coffee fetcher is crazy IMO….you don’t do what the Yankees have done with a moron for a GM…..you just don’t. He’s probably going to Cooperstown one day to be honest……

  68. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    We will never know who makes the decisions on various issues. All I know is that person cannot see beyond today. It has been obvious for the last several years the team was rapidly aging. My goodness, simply look at the roster. Yet, they took no steps to deal with it by acquiring young talent. In fact, they shunned it if it was costly. That is and will impact the team for a long time.

    —————-

    I think what we’re seeing, and this is something we’ve all discussed before, is simply a front office that is divided and being driven by both different philosophies and ego.

    These guys – Hal, Randy, Cash – they all think they know the best way to make this team a winner and none of them are on the same page. We don’t know who is making what decisions or what choices they’d be making if they were autonomous but the reality is that’s not how baseball teams work and they need to find a way to come together and agree on a PLAN. Once they agree on an ACTUAL PLAN they need to do something even more insane and IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.

    This is ineptitude. It doesn’t mean these guys aren’t smart, aren’t business savvy, or even that they aren’t baseball savvy… I think they’re just letting the power struggle get in the way. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Cash was happy to let go of the reins just so this very situation could occur and he could say, ‘see.. told ya!’ Imagine.. Cashman being the randy of the FO.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Disco, I don’t doubt what you say; we know Soriano wasn’t Cashman’s idea, and about the Alex contract being done over his head.

    That does not change that he got rid of all three young bats whose presence in this lineup now could have them producing enough runs to not be the sinking ship they are.

    He has repeatedly said the offense is “fine” and has bleated that “hairy monsters” credo to the embarrassment of any self-respecting Yankee fan.

    He also has made an ass of himself, running down his own players and those whom he traded who go elsewhere and do well.

    I’m sorry, but Hubert Humphrey was right: at a certain point, you have to accept the mounting evidence. He let the offense get old, and he enjoys needling players and acting the buffoon – if the latter is barely tolerable in an eccentric owner, it is absolutely unacceptable in a VP and General Manager.

  70. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I don’t think Mega Shark could destroy Bud’s fake hair…..

    ——————

    I imagine Super Selig to look like a giant slug.

  71. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    A lot of things have led to where the Yankees are…..an aging core….the need to win every year …..some mistakes in drafting and development…..the winning every year leading to low draft picks…..the owner putting the team on a budget when it’s not ready to be….etc. Everything has it’s season…..the Yankees have to figure out how to start a new one.

  72. hardwired7 July 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Jeter and a Rochester Red Wing sharing a laugh about the recent Yankee lineups.

  73. NYY fan in NH July 10th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Poor management of this team by Cashman and the Steinbrenner’s. Trying to glue together an offense with older, fading veterans.. They really had no plan and now this team is on the verge of rebuilding because of it. Pretty sad days to be a Yankee fan!!

  74. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Bud thinks he’s protecting his legacy with all this but all he’s really doing is annoying everybody……

  75. MG July 10th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    It is definitely the dawning of the apocalypse when someone posts daily on this blog that Luis Cruz should be batting cleanup for the New York Yankees.

    He looks like a decent player, but batting CLEANUP on the New York Yankees?

    With an OPS of .520, which is 186 points higher than the really bad numbers he put up in LA before getting released, and which is in the range of his career OPS numbers (.602).

    REALLY?

    Or, as John McEnroe used to say. ‘You can’t be serious’.

  76. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    I think they should redo this romine thing. Sent him down and let him get back his confidence. When he starts hitting again then call him up and play him with no ifs and I do not want to hear any complains from the pitchers (hear that andy). Time to find out once and for all if romine can stick.

  77. Triple Short of a Cycle July 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Sure…..but a lot of other teams have spent a lot of money over the last 2 decades too and haven’t gotten much or anything to show for it….(Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, etc).

    —————————————————-

    Did those teams have the home grown core the Yankees have?

  78. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    What we need is for comonsnse to tell Cashman how to trade Hughes and Joba for Profar…..those are the smart moves this team needs!

  79. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Sometimes I think the 2002-2008 period scared them into thinking the focus needed to be pitching after almost a decade of focusing only on the offense… I don’t get why the pendulum needs to swing from one extreme to the other.

  80. bruceb July 10th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    What were Cashman’s three biggest blunders last winter?

    Here are my three:

    (1) Signing Kevin Youkilis to play everyday third-base given his history of back problems. It was a gamble that failed to pay off.

    (2) Tying up the DH position with Travis Hafner, a man who hit .228 last year and could no longer play the field.

    (3) Failing to re-sign Russell Martin or replacing him with a proven catcher such as Napoli or Pierzynski.

  81. Disco July 10th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Shane Spencer and JAP

    To Shane- YES. I noted somewhere else there is a gap in the FO. The players and coaches are have each others backs and talk about loyalty. The FO seems to be the polar opposite, especially when it comes to the players as well (mainly A-Rod).

    But the worst part is Levine, an idiot, getting involved in baseball decisions. Cashman is a good GM. Of late he’s made some questionable moves but his track record is one of the better ones in all of baseball. Levine trying to shove his nose in everything hurts.

    JAP, I still support Cashman. Even though the farm hasn’t really produced anyone, we didn’t even have a farm until he started getting more power in the 2000s. We haven’t produced any studs yet, but we’ve at least had some people who were supposed to be good (Hughes, IPK, Joba, AJax, Montero, and a few others). But yeah, he’s made some trades that didn’t work out and let our offense get old.

  82. JimK July 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    The bottom line is the Yankees are playing to the level of their talent; they have scored 3 or fewer runs in 50%(45) of their games and 25 of those games were after the Yankees peaked at 30-18.
    Given the age of their roster, next year does not look any better; all of the good young players are playing for other teams and given the fact that since the “end” of the PED era, players are reverting to form in that the majority of players begin to decline in their mid 30′s.
    I am guessing that Granderson will not be back next year and if I understand correctly Jeter’s pay for next year will be 8 million dollars with incentives; he can opt out. There is also a 3m buyout provision in Jeter’s contract, but I am guessing that this means if Jeter decides to opt out, the Yankees must pay him the 3M as a buyout. If this is correct I do not see Jeter going anywhere. The Yankees are stuck with Tex through 2016 and who knows how the AROd drama will play out, but I would guess that the Yankees will attempt to end his contract via legal action, or in the alternative offer him no more than 50% of what they owe him as an incentive to retire.
    The bottom line is that the Yankees prospects look pretty dim in the foreseeable future.

  83. Triple Short of a Cycle July 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Just the one move of passing on Tex and signing Holliday instead would have been huge. You probably have Swisher at first and Holliday in the OF for not that much more then Tex makes. Plus if the Angels selected the other HS kid in the draft the Yanks would have Trout right now.

  84. MG July 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Hindsight is always 20-20 but I’ve always thought that the Yankees shouldn’t have broken up the 2009 WS team and kept Damon and Matsui around for another year to see if they could repeat. That was a team that not only knew how to win but could score runs in bunches.

    Instead they let them go, traded Cabrera, acquired Granderson for Jackson, Kennedy et al, and have clearly went down a path that overvalued pitching.

    Had they kept those two older guys maybe the other moves wouldn’t have been made and they not only would have repeated in 2010 but not changed the basic nature of the team.

    Somewhere down the line the Yankees will figure out that boredom doesn’t sell tickets or help TV ratings-the current team, playing the way they are, is boredom personified.

    If you are going to be mediocre, at least do it with guys who can hit, it’s at least exciting. I’ve reached the point where watching games is the easiest way to fall asleep after a long day doing something else…

  85. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    “Did those teams have the home grown core the Yankees have?”

    no but who’s fault was that? Still that’s only a few players…..somebody had to fill in around those players and make it work.

  86. I Am Winning July 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    When it rains it pours, but for the Yankees, its a hurricane and tornado cyclone ripping our chances of making the playoffs by the second.

    He shouldn’t appeal it simply because he is the biggest name on there, and if even 1 person serves his suspension, than there is no way he will not have to serve it. With that being said, we are in 4th place, past the halfway point of the season, and our playoff chances are extremely low at this point. So it’s better to have him play from the beginning of next year and on.

  87. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    “(1) Signing Kevin Youkilis to play everyday third-base given his history of back problems. It was a gamble that failed to pay off.”

    I thought the signing was a waste of money from day 1 but to be fair….who else could they have gotten? There was nobody available any good…..

  88. Triple Short of a Cycle July 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    We haven’t produced any studs yet, but we’ve at least had some people who were supposed to be good (Hughes, IPK, Joba, AJax, Montero, and a few others)

    ———————————————

    So now we are crediting Cash for guys who were supposed to be good but aren’t?

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Shame, the pitching was not good in those years, although I would say 2004 – 2008 was the real down period for the pitching. We still had Andy in 2003, after all, though the Jeff Weaver Moment and Wells pulling out with a bad back didn’t help – but we still got the the title series.

    The Kevin Brown fiasco and having no lefties killed us against Boston’s LHB in 2004 ALCS. A lot went wrong, but I remember feeling, at the time, when we were sitting pretty, that we were kind of fortunate.

  90. pat July 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Ken_Rosenthal 3m
    AL exec: “Yanks aggressively pushing Joba, Hughes. Joba could happen soon to NL team.” Source says #Yankees talking on both, nothing close.

  91. Tackelberry July 10th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Lets hope

  92. I Am Winning July 10th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    I would still like to know how Ortiz hasn’t been linked to any solid facts on taking steroids.

    Or it may be that he found the fountain of youth miracle water that everyone has been longing for, for thousands of years.

  93. Disco July 10th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Triple short of cycle

    Cash gets credit for actually saying “hold on a sec guys, did you know we have teams in the minors? With players we can develop?”

    He doesn’t really do much with the actual development of the players. That’s Oppenheimer and others. I was a fan of Oppenheimer but more and more evidence is piling up against him.

  94. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    by now there should already be news about canzler. someone pls tell me that we did put a claim. If we got him, next is a lefty hitting catcher. But hope we got russ.

  95. Doreen July 10th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    pat -

    He’ll still be a sight for sore eyes! LOL

    But, sure, if he doesn’t hit, he might as well be Reid Brignac.

  96. I Am Winning July 10th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Hughes would be very good in the NL, in my opinion. I still think he will have his inconsistencies, but he would be a great #3 starter for most NL teams.

    The only issue, are the knuckleheads on this blog that will blame Cashman for Hughes doing well in the NL, and that he should have kept him. I’m not in the mood for any more incompetent dummies commenting on a job that they are nowhere near qualified for.

  97. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    pat July 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Ken_Rosenthal 3m
    AL exec: “Yanks aggressively pushing Joba, Hughes. Joba could happen soon to NL team.” Source says #Yankees talking on both, nothing close.
    ———————

    Oh please please give me Joba to anywhere but here!

  98. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    The Yankees actually got value for their money. Aside from CC and andy, they have gotten values for their money from their active roster. Am I saying cashman did great? of course not, it is just my way of saying they got what they deserve.

  99. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    What we need is for comonsnse to tell Cashman how to trade Hughes and Joba for Profar…..those are the smart moves this team needs!
    —————–

    That’s easy…start by getting Jon Daniels really really drunk. Then you’re going to need a goat, fuzzy pink handcuffs and a camera….

  100. Triple Short of a Cycle July 10th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Cash gets credit for actually saying “hold on a sec guys, did you know we have teams in the minors? With players we can develop?”

    ———————————————————-

    Does a GM exist that would say the opposite?

  101. fantasygame101 July 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Joba oh joba, we could have gotten doc halladay way back if cashman was not so obsessed with you.

  102. Hassey July 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    I know this isn’t exactly constructive insight, but I won’t be around later, so could someone please pass this along from me at the appropriate times tonight?

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  103. pat July 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Sounds like the appeals process might not be the last resort for players……

    http://sports-law.blogspot.com.....-mlbs.html

  104. austinmac July 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    It doesn’t take a baseball genius to know a balanced team is the most likely to win. Yet, since Teixiera was signed nearly five years ago, they have largely neglected the offense with the pitching wins mantra.

    It should have become obvious a few years ago the remarkable performance by old guys over the past decade or two has been PED related. Once testing began, older players looked old. So, what do the Yankees do? Add older players.

    Oppenheimer gets treated like he is a baseball savant. Was it that genius that wanted Bichette and Culver? Brackman? The system would look a lot better had they picked players others thought were good. I believe the decision making was a combination of being smarter than everyone in the room and these guys could be signed for what the team wanted to pay.

    Three first round picks down the tube(in addition to Cole) explains a lot about the lack of talent in the system.

  105. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    pat,

    The writer clearly has more of an agenda than a familiarity with the law.

    Yes, I am certain that after the appeals are heard, if the suspensions are upheld, the lawyers for the players will try to take MLB to court. However, any sane judge will turn to the lawyers and say that the violations in secrecy do not constitute grounds to overturn the appeals and that due process, as spelled out by the Basic Agreement was met.

    The players, and league, went into the agreement with eyes wide open.

    What could be interesting down the road is whether or not a player would opt to not be part of the union (and forfeit the benefits that come with it) to try and circumvent the CBA.

  106. blake July 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Joba for a pulled pork sandwich would be a nice return.

  107. Frankg July 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Cashman and Girardi are doing a good job considering the unusual number of injuries. I’m glad they’re not doing one thing—trading young talent to get by this year. It’s good that they gave Adams and Almonte a chance to see how good they are. Nuno has looked good and Clairborne, up until recently

    Some criticism is deserved. Girardi has stuck with Wells too long. Cashman can be faulted for signing injury prone players to an old team that would have had its share of injuries anyway—Hafner and Youkillis.

    It’s also good that Cashman has not done any trading. Usually, he’s given up too much for what he gets. He’s good at “dumpster diving.”

    Granderson kind of bugs me because he can’t seem to get out of the way of inside pitches or is standing too close to the plate.

    They might want to bring up Randy Ruiz from S/W to get some RH power. His stats are impressive and I think he would have been recalled before now based on them, if his name wasn’t Randy Ruiz, if you know what I mean.

  108. blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    kinda wish DO had picked Andelton Simmons instead of Culver.

  109. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    JAP, I still support Cashman. Even though the farm hasn’t really produced anyone, we didn’t even have a farm until he started getting more power in the 2000s. We haven’t produced any studs yet, but we’ve at least had some people who were supposed to be good (Hughes, IPK, Joba, AJax, Montero, and a few others). But yeah, he’s made some trades that didn’t work out and let our offense get old.
    ///

    Disco, I was Cashman’s biggest supporter re his efforts to resurrect the farm, and we have some good prospects, but they are far away. AJax and Montero should not have been traded. They could have helped both this year and last. He said we’d “get younger” after not re-signing Damon and Matsui (I would have been fine with letting especially Damon go, had they followed through with Cashman’s “youth” plan). They did no such thing, and they badly misjudged Cabrera, who was a youthful 24 when they dealt him for a second tour of Javy.

  110. Triple Short of a Cycle July 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    So if pitching is the keys to the kingdom how are the Red Sox in first place? Lester had a good first month but has been awful since. Dempster stinks. Laptops has been out for a while now. Lackey is the only pitcher that has been doing well for them

  111. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    austinmac July 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    It doesn’t take a baseball genius to know a balanced team is the most likely to win. Yet, since Teixiera was signed nearly five years ago, they have largely neglected the offense with the pitching wins mantra.

    It should have become obvious a few years ago the remarkable performance by old guys over the past decade or two has been PED related. Once testing began, older players looked old. So, what do the Yankees do? Add older players.

    Oppenheimer gets treated like he is a baseball savant. Was it that genius that wanted Bichette and Culver? Brackman? The system would look a lot better had they picked players others thought were good. I believe the decision making was a combination of being smarter than everyone in the room and these guys could be signed for what the team wanted to pay.

    Three first round picks down the tube(in addition to Cole) explains a lot about the lack of talent in the system.
    —————–

    I agree with a lot of what was said here.

  112. Hassey July 10th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Joba is pulling his own pork right now

  113. Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    The dynasty is over and it isn’t coming back. The Yankees need to accept that, and we fans need to accept that. It was built on a once-in-a-lifetime group of young talent, and extended by a dramatic increase in payroll before other teams reacted by (1) locking their young talent up to long-term deals and (2) selling to deeper-pocketed owners who have no problems paying Yankee-like dollars to obtain the few game-changing free agents who do become available.

    The Yankees have to adjust their organization to the concept of winning some years, and rebuilding other, more frequent years. Use their market power wisely to make those winning years more frequent than most teams’ winning years.

    I don’t see a Yankee organization which is ready and able to do that right now.

  114. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    The Joba stuff here is just odd.

    Yeah, he hasn’t pitched well. Maybe they should try him in the middle of the order, he says he can hit, and he does resemble Ruth a little.

    In all seriousness, Joba sucking is kind of what Cashman deserves; he bailed on his starting career way too early, made him a fifth wheel, and it’s poetic justice that he gets nothing for him after wasting his potential in a role any number of guys could have filled (but those relievers could not have been viable as starters).

  115. blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Boston has given up 32 more runs than the Yankees…..they have however scored 123 more more runs

  116. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    kinda wish DO had picked Andelton Simmons instead of Culver.
    ——————-

    “kinda?”

    That’s like saying I “kinda” wish that I was a professional baseball player.

  117. blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    “The dynasty is over and it isn’t coming back. The Yankees need to accept that, and we fans need to accept that. It was built on a once-in-a-lifetime group of young talent, and extended by a dramatic increase in payroll before other teams reacted by (1) locking their young talent up to long-term deals and (2) selling to deeper-pocketed owners who have no problems paying Yankee-like dollars to obtain the few game-changing free agents who do become available.”

    yup

  118. Triple Short of a Cycle July 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Boston has given up 32 more runs than the Yankees…..they have however scored 123 more more runs

    —————————————-

    So apparently it is possible to win with hitting?

  119. austinmac July 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Frank,

    I too am glad they haven’t traded away prospects for one one and done guys, but that danger period is far from over. Trade prospects for a young player is okay, but please no decent prospects for another 36 year old. And please no Alfonso Soriano. I don’t care if he is better than what we have.

  120. blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Bill Murray ?@BiIIMurray 3m
    Burger: $0.99
    Salad: $5.99
    And you wonder why everyone is fat.

    fake Bill Murray is awesome.

  121. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    The dynasty is over and it isn’t coming back. The Yankees need to accept that, and we fans need to accept that. It was built on a once-in-a-lifetime group of young talent, and extended by a dramatic increase in payroll before other teams reacted by (1) locking their young talent up to long-term deals and (2) selling to deeper-pocketed owners who have no problems paying Yankee-like dollars to obtain the few game-changing free agents who do become available.

    The Yankees have to adjust their organization to the concept of winning some years, and rebuilding other, more frequent years. Use their market power wisely to make those winning years more frequent than most teams’ winning years.

    I don’t see a Yankee organization which is ready and able to do that right now.
    ————————

    Correct – I see an organization that is trying to hold it together at least until Jeter leaves and that’s just not going to happen. I also see an organization that doesn’t know how to retool from one generation to another.

    In theory they were trying to do that by bringing in Granderson, Sabathia and Tex to mesh with Cano but it hasn’t worked out.

  122. pat July 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    “The writer clearly has more of an agenda than a familiarity with the law. ”

    Seems pretty familiar with the law to me. What did he say that was not accurate?

  123. blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    “So apparently it is possible to win with hitting?”

    the goal of baseball is to score more runs than the other team…..=

  124. pkyankfan69 July 10th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Joba is next to worthless in terms of trade value but I think he could potentially be a good reliever with a fresh start somewhere else… I don’t really care what we got back for him as long as it is not attached to another bad contract, I’d just like Joba gone to open up a spot for Betances who is killing it as a reliever in the minors. At some point this year the Yanks have to see if Dellin’s newly found success in the AAA BP will translate to the majors.

    If we trade Hughes we better get something more valuable than the sandwich pick he would likely bring… Not sure if I trust Cashman to do this.

  125. bruceb July 10th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    He’s good at “dumpster diving.”

    Not so good this year. In any case, when you sign virtually every player DFA’d by their team you would expect to catch lightning in a bottle here and there. We caught lighting in a bottle with Wells…but only for two months.

    Cashman missed out on a number of players who could have really helped this team, two of whom are playing on the other side of the city: Marlon Byrd and Eric Young Jr.

  126. Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    “In theory they were trying to do that by bringing in Granderson, Sabathia and Tex to mesh with Cano but it hasn’t worked out.”

    I don’t think so. I really didn’t have an issue with any of those deals at the time (although I did have a bit of an issue with the Sabathia extension), but two of those deals were big buck deals to extend the dynasty a bit longer and the third (Granderson) was trading prospects and young players for an established player. All three were old guard deals.

  127. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Betances will be lights out in the bullpen in the majors, but the best use of him would be as a starter.

    He was figuring that out in his last three starts when they pulled the plug because of his service clock.

    They likely will trade him, which likely means he’ll get to start elsewhere, but they’ll be trading him as a reliever, so they won’t get much back.

  128. Chip July 10th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    pat July 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    “The writer clearly has more of an agenda than a familiarity with the law. ”

    Seems pretty familiar with the law to me. What did he say that was not accurate?
    —————–

    His comments about illegally or unethically obtained evidence stemming from what he calls frivolous suits.

    First of all – MLB can file suit about anything they want, but there’s a window between the time when the suit is filed and when it is first heard in which it can be dropped for any reasons up to and including receiving cooperation from the other party against a third party.

    If Bosch wanted to play this out then yes, the case would be kicked out because MLB doesn’t have standing to bring it, but if he’s willing to cooperate rather than take that chance then more power to MLB for exploiting him for their own ends. We might not like the way MLB gets the evidence from Bosch against Alex and the others, but as long as MLB can prove its authenticity then they’re under no obligation to play fair. Only to follow what the league and union agreed to in the CBA.

  129. blake July 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Ian O’Connor ?@Ian_OConnor 5m
    From last night: All these years later, the Yankees need Jeter like never before http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....-more-ever

  130. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    austinmac July 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Frank,

    I too am glad they haven’t traded away prospects for one one and done guys, but that danger period is far from over.
    ////

    Exactly. The deeper we fall, the more likely it is that they will do something irrevocably damaging to the franchise.

  131. pat July 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    What would Cashman say was his best trade? His worst?

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9457367

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock July 10th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Ian O’Connor ?@Ian_OConnor 5m
    From last night: All these years later, the Yankees need Jeter like never before http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml…..-more-ever …
    ///

    Hold on, now; isn’t he “just a ballplayer” who Cashman exorted to “shop it, elsewhere?”

  133. luis July 10th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Good morning still,

    1) Martin played like a BUC for us… I don’t miss him one bit… They should have gone after AJP… I still have nightmares of his “Hero swings” that looked like “helicopter blades”… Or his usual season long quest to get over the Mendoza line… MLB starter?… Maybe on a team like the Pirates, but not on the Yankees… The fact that we are playing an even lesser player, doesn’t make him a starter… Sorry.

    2) Sure, you can blame a lot on the ownership ( from keeping him instead of getting new blood, to the Arod extension )… But he is responsible as well of the way this franchise has been run to the ground… Bad talent evaluations, bad trades, bad FA’s…

  134. pat July 10th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Chip

    I disagree. Those that enforce the rules have the obligation to play by them.

  135. Hans Davenport July 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Who the heck knows what’s going to happen with ARod. Even if he somehow escapes suspension, I have no idea what’s going on with his rehab except that it is slowish.

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