The LoHud Yankees Blog

A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News


Pregame notes: “We had a bad result yesterday”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 12, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter

The Yankees decided Derek Jeter was ready. He’d been through weeks of simulated situations in Tampa, and four minor league games in Scranton. Late Wednesday night, the Yankees decided Jeter might as well DH in the big leagues rather than DH another game in Triple-A. There’s a chance that decision led to the strained quad that is going to keep Jeter out until at least the weekend after the All-Star break.

“If it was I needed him to play the field, I wouldn’t have done it,” Brian Cashman said. “(Wouldn’t have done) day game after a night game, that type of stuff. But it was a DH situation. It’s not something that entered my mind in any way, that he could actually blow a tire running the bases or stretching things out or what have you. He could do it down there as well as he could do it up here. There’s so much more involved when you’re playing both sides of the ball. It’s more controlled on the DH side of it. Again, you saw the first two at-bats that he had. Certainly a lot of excess energy went in to try to beat those balls out. Stuff happens, and it did.”

Quite often it seems the Yankees are seen as overly cautious with injuries, sitting players who badly want to play and believe they can play. Mark Teixeira thought he could be back a month earlier than the Yankees brought him back, but when Teixeira ultimately needed surgery, there was a perception that the Yankees rushed him.

Did they rush Jeter? It certainly seems logical to think the quad injury is directly related to the ankle recovery, but I have no idea how much longer Jeter would have needed to a point when there was no risk of tweaking something while trying to beat out a ground ball. If he was healthy enough to play in Triple-A games, then it seems he would be healthy enough to play in Major League games. Maybe not quite adjusted to the game speed and the game routine, but probably physically capable. Certainly it’s hard to imagine that one more day of DH work in the minors would have wiped out the possibility of running awkwardly and hurting something else.

Joe Girardi said the plan was to have Jeter DH yesterday, play shortstop today, take Saturday off, then play again on Sunday. They were going to ease him in, but that plan lasted all of four at-bats.

“He would have been fine if it was a hard ground out to short, a hard ground out to second base, a pop fly to first base,” Cashman said. “Then this is not an issue. But the way the game unraveled in his first two at-bats, they were go-get-’em situations and Derek is going to do everything he can to succeed. A piece of his body said, not yet. Is that because of his age or more so because of what he’s coming back from? … I guess you’ve got to be careful even when it’s just a DH situation. If there was a lesson to be learned on that, moving him up one day, it appeared to be a harmless circumstance at the time, but you go through the process for a reason and you set it up for a reason and you adjust when you can. Unfortunately, we had a bad result from yesterday.”

Alex Rodriquez• Rained out yesterday, Alex Rodriguez is scheduled to play seven innings at third base for High-A Tampa today.

• Brett Gardner is back in the lineup and said, “oh yeah” when asked if his bruised shin is feeling better. Travis Hafner is not in the lineup, but Girardi made it clear that Hafner is likely available as a pinch hitter. “He seems to be OK,” Girardi said. “I think I could use him tonight.”

• Curtis Granderson is ready to start taking dry swings, but he’s still a long way from a rehab assignment. “He’s not even taking batting practice yet,” Cashman said. “He wasn’t hitting off the tee yet. He was doing swings in the pool, then I think yesterday was potentially the first day for him doing stuff open air.”

• Looks like the Yankees will stick with a short bench through the All-Star break. “As long as a couple of guys don’t have something happen today, we’ll be fine,” Girardi said.

• No concerns about Jeter’s ankle after yesterday’s game. “Unless he failed to tell me anything worse, but I think the ankle is fine,” Cashman said.

• Jeter did not meet with the media today. How are his spirits following this setback? “Feisty,” Girardi said. “He wants to play tonight. Pretty normal Derek Jeter stuff. His frame of mind is good. He wants to give it a shot after these seven days and see where he’s at, which is to me, normal Derek Jeter.”

• Cashman was asked whether there’s a massive risk in counting on guys like Jeter, Rodriguez and Granderson to provide a second-half boost. “I hope not,” Cashman said. “I hope not because they’re going to get, when they’re healthy, they’re getting plugged in. We’ll be willing to sink or swim with them. But don’t misunderstand that, that we’re not going to try to reinforce other aspects when we can and if we can, but we really do look forward to getting those guys back when they’re healthy.”

Associated Press photos

Comments

comments

 

Advertisement

42 Responses to “Pregame notes: “We had a bad result yesterday””

  1. Nick in SF July 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    “It’s not something that entered my mind in any way, that he could actually blow a tire running the bases or stretching things out or what have you. ”

    Maybe Cashman needs to hire Chien-ming Wang as a Special Assistant In Charge Of Telling Him Stuff That Should Have Entered His Mind.

    They can play with the title a bit if they want a better acronym.

  2. UnKnown July 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Careful with the M and M boys. They typically do well in the Bronx. Otherwise business as usual against these losers.

  3. Niblick July 12th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Cashman really is clueless. Sorry to offend those that love him, but it’s true.

  4. Frankg July 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Perhaps, Jeter is entering a phase where he becomes injury prone, after being solid for so many years. A position change may help reduce exposure. Not sure he didn’t come back too soon. Short term effect on team none, since he was still trying to get back to normal when this happened. This will delay realizing his potential this year.

  5. Hans Davenport July 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Niblick July 12th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
    Cashman really is clueless. Sorry to offend those that love him, but it’s true.

    Its gotten to the point where he is beyond clueless.

  6. fantasygame101 July 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    ok now, we wait for jeter again and arod and granderson?

  7. Hankflorida July 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    I assume that the Twins will resent being the door mat for the Yankees and try to get payback from being swept at their home. The Yankees cannot lose anymore ground to the Red Sox before they meet them next week. The Sox may have some trouble against the Athletics say lose two out of three. I would take being five games out before the home run hitting contest at Citi Field, and four would be great while eight out may make any moves to satisfy Hal’s cap before the trading deadline too little and too late.

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    IMO it is ludicrous to believe anything other than that the Yankees did what the Yankees do when the natives start to get too restless – they rush players back. If the team had continued on its tear, I totally believe that Derek would have returned after the ASB, probably in better form.

    Unfortunately the Bronx mantra has come full circle – win or else. When Yankee fans start to threaten to jump of bridges, or worse, to boycott games, the organization listens. And this is the result. The organization and fans can high five each other over these moves.

    Maybe the offense can pick up a tail wind from the good feeling it got having Jeter back in the lineup and keep things going.

    *********

    Won’t be around for the beginning of the game so – GO YANKS!!! GO HIROKI!!! GO A’S!!!

    ***********

    “Nicky, being one of the more literate and erudite posters on this site do you think my posts are “blather”?

    I ask because I note with some satisfaction that much of my vocabulary and bon mots have been incorporated by the very folks who are attacking my person?

    Frankly, I believe I’ve been an uplifting addition to this more often than not mundane forum.

    What say you?”

    I’m not nicky but I have slept in a Holiday Inn so I hope you don’t mind me responding to this. I personally love reading your posts and actually look forward to seeing them. I think you’re all that plus a bag of chips.

    :)

    Later y’all.

  9. Hans Davenport July 12th, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    Maybe Cashman needs to hire Chien-ming Wang as a Special Assistant In Charge Of Telling Him Stuff That Should Have Entered His Mind.

    That is priceless. I don’t think much does enter his mind. But remember, he’s well respected.

  10. tomingeorgia July 12th, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    It’s rained here 33 out of the last 40 days, just like the Yankee injuries. If it were Branch Rickey, don’t know what he could do differently.

  11. Locke July 12th, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    If anybody wants a laugh check out this clip of Swisher from three days ago.

    “Swisher was at the plate in the bottom of the eighth when he knocked a dribbler down the third base line. The ball toed along the outside of the chalk for a few yards, and instead of running to first, Swisher stood by waiting for his next the next pitch.”

    http://www.wimp.com/purejoy/

  12. fantasygame101 July 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    with budget constraint, now is cashman time to show how good a GM he is. if he is as smart as he is, 2014 plan should have been in effect already but I doubt that it is being executed properly bec. going forward to 2014 right now is not good.

  13. MTU July 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    ” Cashman was asked whether there’s a massive risk in counting on guys like Jeter, Rodriguez and Granderson to provide a second-half boost. “I hope not,” Cashman said. “I hope not because they’re going to get, when they’re healthy, they’re getting plugged in. We’ll be willing to sink or swim with them. But don’t misunderstand that, that we’re not going to try to reinforce other aspects when we can and if we can, but we really do look forward to getting those guys back when they’re healthy.”

    Translation: We’re going to buy another box of band-aids but only if we can find a sale. Some pretty risky thinking FWIS. Especially the A-rod portion. Likely he gets a suspension and spends the remainder of the season distracted by the fallout from the appeal.

    :(

  14. jmills July 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Hi Tom, 33 days of rain, mon ami?; magic #, hope all is swell. Up here, I’m carrying buckets to my guys :)

  15. Jerkface July 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Of course commonsense is trisha’s favorite. Joining the ranks of C R 9 and Mick. She has impeccable taste.

  16. Hans Davenport July 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Locke July 12th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
    If anybody wants a laugh check out this clip of Swisher from three days ago.

    Clearly pitiful. A Little League kid knows enough to run on that. I guess that is what you call lazy. That’s what plenty of people would call it if it was Cano.

  17. austinmac July 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Nick,

    Cashman will not approve a title which begins with SACT.

  18. jmills July 12th, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    MTU, I’m tring to super juice my succulents for the limited temps they have on the outside.

  19. jmills July 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Austin, have u moved on up yet?

  20. MTU July 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Mills-

    Send them down here for some R and R.

    They’ll love it.

    ;)

  21. jmills July 12th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    MTU, how many succulents can you fit in a Prelude? :) nice to see ya’.

  22. tomingeorgia July 12th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    jmills,
    The local water melons have all exploded.

  23. MTU July 12th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Mills-

    I don’t know. I only know the record for cheerleaders.

    Check with Guiness.

    :)

  24. Locke July 12th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Hans Davenport – The worst part is that he fell down running the bases in the 10th inning of that game. Not his best game.

  25. john smith July 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    Of course commonsense is trisha’s favorite. Joining the ranks of C R 9 and Mick. She has impeccable taste.

    Plot twist, they are all the same person, one username for each of C R 9′s multiple personalities.

  26. jmills July 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Cheerleaders,…I don’t even want to venture into those waters. Going to the double bill Toronto Indy this weekend, and as you might guess, me and the ghost of Gilles Villeneuve can hardly contain, Ourselves.

  27. MTU July 12th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    Mills-

    Have fun.

  28. subwaysquawkers July 12th, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Rarely post here, but I just wanted to say that Nick in SF’s comment here made me laugh out loud! Post of the year!

    “Maybe Cashman needs to hire Chien-ming Wang as a Special Assistant In Charge Of Telling Him Stuff That Should Have Entered His Mind.

    They can play with the title a bit if they want a better acronym.”

  29. comnsnse July 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Gents and ladies, do you ever bother to read posts that might not address the topic at hand?

    I posted a few threads back that Chad essentially absolves Cashman from the creation of this mess.

    Suggesting that he “only makes suggestions and receives his marching orders fro above”.

    I find it hard to believe but that’s what the man said, how you document this is beyond my pay grade but if true is definitely suggestive of why we are in this discombobulated state!

    Clueless may apply to ownership and the accountants.

  30. Hans Davenport July 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Locke July 12th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
    Hans Davenport – The worst part is that he fell down running the bases in the 10th inning of that game. Not his best game.

    At the very least he was running.

  31. RayVT July 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Padres Designate Ciriaco For Assignment
    Wonder if Yanks are interested?

  32. UnKnown July 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    The Jeter thing is no biggie. He will be ready to go next Friday. Nothing to see here move along.

  33. Wave Your Hat July 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Trisha has me confused. I thought the Yanks were always right, and critical fans were pathetically wasting their ignorant breath since they have no power anyway. But the Yanks are wrong, because the fans made them do it. At least I think that’s the argument. Need help.

  34. comnsnse July 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    john smith, small mind focus on small issues. Sexist pig! ;)

  35. MTU July 12th, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    Enjoy the game folks.

  36. Against All Odds July 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Plot twist, they are all the same person, one username for each of C R 9?s multiple personalities.

    —————————–

    Do you say that because Trisha stands up for C R 9 or is it just a guess?

  37. comnsnse July 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Trish, fear not game threads bring out the weenie factor exponentially!

    Just check who the whiners are, insipid twits!

    Almost all absurd conduct arises from the imitation of those we can not resemble!

  38. Hans Davenport July 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Suggesting that he “only makes suggestions and receives his marching orders fro above”.

    Even if that were the case, why would he keep a job under those conditions. He definitely would not even be his own man in that case. Merely a puppet on a string. So then how would that jive with the “Well respected GM” label some put on him? How many other GMs who run their show would have an iota of respect for a guy who needs to call home to make a trade?
    Personally I have no respect or sympathy for the guy either way. Put simply, if he does such a lousy job running his own dysfunctional life how could he be expected to run a baseball team properly?

  39. comnsnse July 12th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Woowoo, blog twenty questions.

    In the movie business boobs are often used successfully in place of a coherent plot or acting to create an interesting film!

    Let’s see which of the “blog logs” sees the analogy!

  40. comnsnse July 12th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Hans please ask Chad.

    As to why he would keep the job under those circumstances, you’d have to discuss that with his divorce lawyer. ;)

  41. comnsnse July 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    BTW Hans Chad also said the Cash is one of the most respected GM’s in the league and if he hasn’t moved on to bigger assignments he plans to vote for him for the HOF.

    This entire line of chat phat is one of the great set ups for humor but I dare not since I respect Chad and can’t afford to get on his bad side!

    However the last time I joked about a writer he got a job with the league office! ;)

  42. Backstreet boys concert August 6th, 2014 at 5:52 am

    Over the very last handful of years the economy adjusted via some
    significant bumps inside the road Backstreet boys concert
    however, this comes in the expense associated with an exorbitant rate of
    great interest on the money.

Leave a comment below


Sponsored by:
 

Search

    Advertisement

    Follow

    Mobile

    Read The LoHud Yankees Blog on the go by navigating to the blog on your smartphone or mobile device's browser. No apps or downloads are required.

Advertisement

Place an ad

Call (914) 694-3581