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Video: Cashman and Girardi discuss Jeter’s quad injury

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Tried to get this video to work last night but had trouble with it. Figured I might as well post it this morning while we’re waiting for today’s lineup to be posted.

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74 Responses to “Video: Cashman and Girardi discuss Jeter’s quad injury”

  1. Niblick July 13th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Either a panic move because of the Gardner and Hafner boo-boos or a cynical attempt to sell more tickets. Either way, yet another stupid move on the part of the brain trust.

  2. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    Gene Michael, owner of the most respected eyes in the organization saw Jeter play and gave the thumbs up to activating him. But you know better?

  3. Madrugador July 13th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Maybe a strained quad is “normal” after coming back from a long lay off when you are 39.

    2-0? Pitching isn’t the key to the kingdom, it is the kingdom.

  4. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Even with all of the injuries the Yankees are still well within striking distance of a playoff spot.

    :)

  5. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Anyone else suprised by what a decent fielder Almonte appears to be ?

    I was led to believe that he couldn’t field worth a lick.

    That is certainly not the case. He’s at least avg. if not better.

  6. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Morning MTU —-

    Howz Tingz ??

    It is pretty remarkable to be just 1 1/2 games out of the Wild Card with all they’ve been through. I just don’t believe they can count on Jeter, A-Rod and Granderson being difference makers the final two months.

    Dioner Navarro would be a nice pick up. Rios too, IF the Sox eat some 2014 $$$.

  7. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    I think the scouting reports on Almonte’s defense that we saw here were from people who never actually saw him play in person and just read various accounts.

  8. Madrugador July 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    They are on a pace to win 88-89 games so a playoff spot is a possibility.
    Too bad we don’t play the Twins more often.

  9. Niblick July 13th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Gene Michael is 75. I’m not sure I’d trust his eyes with much.

  10. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    86-

    There’s been some improvement. Still a ways to go but thanks for asking.

    Obviously my frame of mind is better or I wouldn’t even be posting.

    I think A-Rod will be cited by MLB.

    If Jeter and Grandy can stay healthy they can really help.

    Cervelli can add too but he may also get cited by MLB.

    Still hoping Nunez provides a bit more spark.

    I would add another bat for insurance.

    Would love it to be a guy for the future but I agree w Blake who believes it will be a Michael Young type.

    Your suggestions would work.

    We should have grabbed AJ P. when we had the chance, or Jaso.

  11. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Yep, Almonte has been a pleasant surprise. For a rookie, he seems to be holding his own.

    Actually, Almonte, Nunez and Cruz have shored up the bottom end fairly well. They’ve all have had their moments. Wells seems to be working his way out of the denizens of the deep. Maybe things will normalize a little.

  12. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Bo-

    I like Cruz. Think there may be some potential there.

  13. j9d July 13th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    I was hoping for 10 over at the break as a best case scenario. Yankees can’t finish 10 over (being 9 over with 2 to play) so here’s hoping for an incredibly overachieving 11 over!

  14. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    If nothing else this season has afforded us at least a limited look at some of our MiLB guys.

    It’s been kind of a mixed bag but that doesn’t surprise me.

    The number and severity of our injuries has really been staggering.

    Some of it was just bad but luck, and some age related but I really think the Yankees need to evaluate whether or not they are doing the best possible job at teaching their guys on how to try to prevent injuries.

  15. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Gene Michael is 75. I’m not sure I’d trust his eyes with much.

    ************************************************

    I trust them more than the make believe medicos on this board.

    Luis Cruz is an interesting case. He hit .297 with a .753 OPS in half a season with the Dodgers in 2012. I was surprised they gave up on him so quickly this year. He’s 29 and looks like he could be a valuable piece to the puzzle this season and beyond.

  16. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    At this point I would have to say the Yankees will be buyers at the TD.

    Anyone disagree ?

  17. blake July 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Jeters injury was a new one and no an aggravation of the ankle….not sure how Gene Michael could have predicted he’d strain his quad when he was there to evaluate how he looked on his ankle……Jeter probably kicked it into an extra gear in that first inning that’s hard to simulate outside of actually playing a big league game and it pulled……either that or it was just a freak thing.

    The yanks screw up rehabs all the time but I don’t blame them for this one…..stuff just happens sometimes

  18. Frankg July 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    If they are buyers, who do you see them letting go on the 25 man roster, other than Joba?

    People seem to see value in Cruz.

  19. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    If the Yankees can get anything more than a can of bug spray I expect Chamberlain to disappear by the end of the TD.

    I woud also expect that will be shopping a few of their starters just to test the waters.

    Hughes in particular.

    The will be numerous Teams who will be sellers because they have no shot.

    I would really love to see the Yankees make a splash even though I doubt it will happen.

  20. austinmac July 13th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    MTU,

    I still cringe a little with a hard hit ball toward Almonte because of his reputation, but he has made every play and looks comfortable out there.

  21. blake July 13th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    MTU says:
    July 13, 2013 at 9:11 am
    At this point I would have to say the Yankees will be buyers at the TD.

    Anyone disagree ?

    Of course….they should sell but they won’t . They’ll get some rental bat and try to sneak into the playoffs……it’s fine but that’s not getting them anywhere

  22. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Oh yeah, Cruz defensively is top notch with a strong arm. Definitely an upgrade on Nix. He put up a 2.4 WAR for the Dodgers last year.

    At the risk of an oxymoron – an elite utility man.

  23. Niblick July 13th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Games played before re-injury: Tex – 15, Youk – 11, Grandy – 8, Jeter – 1.

    Quite a record for the real “medicos”, isn’t it?

  24. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Bo-

    Kind of a non-switch hitting version of Ramiro Pena w a little more bat.

  25. Frankg July 13th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    People like Cruz. Now Cashman needs to get credit for getting him without giving up anyone. That’s his strong suit, not trading.

    Can they afford to let Hughes go if he is pitching well and they have a chance for the wild card?

  26. austinmac July 13th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Blake,

    I think they will add an expiring contract bat. Let’s hope it doesn’t cost a future piece.

  27. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Blake-

    Being in the playoffs is better than being on the outside looking in.

    It will be interesting to see how King Hal plays this.

    We are in 4th place.

    He said he would fix things.

    Does he bank on the returning payers, or does he see that risk and buy some insurance foregoing 189 ?

    I think we both believe he sticks to 189 but I would love for him to surprise us.

    ;)

  28. Madrugador July 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    I’d like to see the Yanks be sellers but even if they were, I don’t think they would sell anything I’d want to buy.

  29. blake July 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Tex was probably always gonna have to have surgery….Bautsita tried the same thing last year with the same injury and ended up in surgery as well……Youk was a huge injury risk from the moment he signed…..Granderson got hit by a pitch…..

    The Yankee staff has a history of doing this thing where they either rush guys back or they refuse to DL them and play short handed…….but I don’t have a huge problem with how they’ve handled things this year…..they signed a bunch of old guys and injury risks and it’s come to roost…..House MD couldn’t keep this bunch healthy

  30. blake July 13th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “Being in the playoffs is better than being on the outside looking in.”

    True but grabbing a WC and getting steam rolled wouldn’t so much for me….

  31. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    And just for the record I have to say that Girardi has done a masterful job of keping this team together and in the hunt.

    I think few Manager’s could have done as well under the circumstances.

    This is definitely his finest year Managing IMO.

    Worthy of a MOTY award.

  32. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Pena always looked like the malnourished cousin and that the next pitch would knock the bat out of his hands. Cruz has some pop.

    Never been a fan of Mr Baseball, the Nix. He tries hard.

  33. austinmac July 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I don’t blame the medical staff. This stuff happens to every team.

  34. blake July 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    MTU,
    Agree on Girardi

  35. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Blake-

    Once a Team makes the Playoffs almost anything can happen.

  36. blake July 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    The braves entire OF is hurt

  37. Tar July 13th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    “The yanks screw up rehabs all the time but I don’t blame them for this one…..stuff just happens sometimes”

    Ditto.

    AAA was for getting his timing back not to prevent another injury. Derek and everyone who evaluated him thought he was close enough (timing wise) to contribute at the big league level. Good enough for me.

    It’s really a shame that Cashman has to take flack over this. :twisted:

  38. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Mac-

    I disagree. The sheer number of injuries requires a serious look IMO.

    Lot’s of groin injuries, etc.

    Perhaps these guys are not being schooled properly about stretching, flexibility, warming up properly, etc.

    Maybe the conditioning is not eared the righ way for baseball.

    just some things to wonder about.

    ;)

  39. Tar July 13th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    MTU

    This blog is soooo much better when you are around, really sorry for your troubles. It’s great to see you back.

  40. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    sp: geared.

  41. Tar July 13th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    “Pena always looked like the malnourished cousin and that the next pitch would knock the bat out of his hands. Cruz has some pop.

    Never been a fan of Mr Baseball, the Nix. He tries hard.”

    At this point, Cruz is looking like a much better option over Nix. I guess we are going to find out how much Joe is all about Nixie.

    On that topic I’m a big Nunez fan, but wow his swing looks awful right now.

  42. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Tar-

    My formula is simple.

    I try to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated.

    And when I am feeling good never take myself too seriously.

    This place is for knowledge as well a for fun.

    It’s actually a wondeful little community with some very fine people.

    A little humor and kindness go a long way w most folks.

    It should be easy to disagree w/o being disagreeable.

    :)

  43. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    If Pat’s sources are correct and Hal favors decisions by committee, they’re in big trouble. Too much input by non baseball people and none of the responsibility. You’re seeing the results now, safe choices, name players. I think Youk and Ichiro would qualify on the tire patching. It’s total desolation for next year.

    I think Cashman is the effigy hung on the wall to attract attention.

  44. Frankg July 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    If I were on the medical and training staff of the Yankees, I would have had my resume updated and ready to go. No team has this many common injuries and re-injuries without somebody having to pay for it.

  45. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    As long as they have a legit shot at post-season play it’s unlikely the Yanks will be sellers at the end of the month.

    That doesn’t mean they couldn’t/wouldn’t move Hughes and/or Joba for a bat, but they wont be moving Cano or Kuroda unless the bottom drops out.

    I’m fine with that. To me the goal every year is make the post-season. I never bought into the win it al or bust mindset. 28 World Series Championships in 90 years would then mean you have 62 “bad” years and that’s nonsense.

    Blake — I don’t think the Braves OF can be hurt. Only Yankees players get injured and they ALWAYS suffer relapses because they are rushed back to soon or held back too long.

  46. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Bo-

    Here’s the bottom line.

    Hal said that if the Team is not competitive he would forego 189 and fix it.

    It’s up to you if you think this Team is competitive, or will be competitive with the returning players.

    The honus is on him.

    Let’s see how he handles it.

    ;)

  47. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    On that topic I’m a big Nunez fan, but wow his swing looks awful right now.
    ——
    Aint that the truth. His ego must be in tatters like dissipating ghost. Talk about snake bitten, the last few years. It’s sucked the joy out of him completely and that’s a shame. Always been partial to him.

  48. Tar July 13th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    MTU

    Thats exactly what im talking about, great to have you back.

    Bo

    I never had a problem with the Ichiro signing. At worst he was going to be a great 4th OF to have. The money issue was non-existent in my book because the corporate types knew that his salary was going to be offset by his market.

    But you’re right I think because of that, he’s a perfect example of the “committee” dictating a player because of market share.

  49. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    The honus is on him.

    Let’s see how he handles it.
    ———–
    I don’t think that Wagner will roll.

  50. Mike in Harrisburg July 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    To MTU’s point it definitely appears that Joe is more at home cobbling together mostly successful lineups out of spare parts than managing “egos.” He has definitely shined during this period.

  51. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Bo-

    OK. Then I’ll just settle for a guy named after a famous Italian actor.

    :)

  52. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    OK. Then I’ll just settle for a guy named after a famous Italian actor.
    —–
    Just having a little fun. I was scrambling for the pun. First coffee you know.

  53. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    “Got to know when to know when to hold ‘em. Know when to fold ‘em. Know when to walk away.

    Know when to run.”

    Don’t count your money at the Table Hal. It’s a long season.

    You might want to think about that one. And how valuable it is for a Man’s word to be respected.

    ;)

  54. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    I don’t have any problems with Ichiro either. He’s putting together an amazing season for his age. One of the three ballplayers on this team.

    It’s the now mentality of the decision making, above their level of competence. The Peter Principle in full force.

  55. ron July 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Cruz is a .601 career ops player with 7 career hr in almost 600 ab.
    He is probably a decent backup player,but most certainly not a starter,and his value is as a ss only.
    His stats are not good enough for 3b,or 2b.
    About having jeter dh on Thursday.He was going to dh in AAA on Thursday anyways,so the only argument might be that he should not have dh’d on Thursday because it was a night game following a day game,and he hardly slept,if he slept at all,and the intensity is greater in the majors.
    Imo,jeter should not have played at all on Thursday because of the night/day game.

    Now the Yankees will eat up a roster spot without being able too use jeter,wich has been their specialty this year.Being down a player because they are mishandling the dl situation,and rushing players back.

  56. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Bo-

    I particularly like bad puns. As did my good friend GB.

    The worse they were the better it seemed. We had many bad pun contests.

    I plan to take that up with him when I see him again.

  57. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Actually, Cruz had a hell of a UZR at 3B for the Dodgers last year and played mostly there. At 29 he’s not ‘Regular’ material but he’s respectable as a fill in and has some pop.

  58. LGY July 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Bo knows says:
    July 13, 2013 at 9:54 am
    I don’t have any problems with Ichiro either. He’s putting together an amazing season for his age. One of the three ballplayers on this team.

    ———

    Ichiro is hitting .275 with an 88 OPS+

    How is that an amazing season?

    Ichiro’s contract was a very poor use of resources.

  59. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    ron —

    On Jeter I would agree if he played SS both games, but he didn’t.

    On Cruz, look at his 2012 season with the Dodgers. It’s the only time he’s seen consistent playing time in his career and he hit .297, had a .753 OPS with 20 2B and 6 HR while playing just about every day the second half of the season. He also committed just 4 errors in 227 chances (.982).

  60. ron July 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Cruz might be good on d.I don’t know,but he is ops,ing in the 5.s right now,and that is just not good.
    Imo,it is all about what the league avg is for a position.
    I’m sure he is a decent backup,but if he is playing 3b,your team is taking a huge hit.

  61. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    The Yankees have tried to walk a tightrope between the past and the future. An admirable goal.

    I believe when the season began they thought they had a safety net in place.

    And they expected a strong progression from some of their top MiLB OF’er’s, for example.

    They did not appear to see the wear spots in the safety net and now they are flying high w/o much protection.

    Not a good position to be in.

    That said, you never know what Lady Luck will bring. thy may still make it to the other side.

    ;)

  62. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Ichiro’s contract was a very poor use of resources.
    —————-
    I think the operative phrase was “for his age”. I definitely wasn’t on board with the Ichiro signing. Wanted Hunter for the bridge to the kids. Ichiro is what he is – he isn’t the problem, it’s the decision making. He gave you a little lift last year, move on.

  63. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    When you watch guys like Kuroda make such incredible use of the Splitter it makes you wonder why it is not taught more often.

    I have been like a broken record in saying that guys like Hughes, etc really could have profited from being taught it.

    It’s a great out pitch.

    And they have had natural “mentors” around for years. Guys like Kuroda and Freddy Garcia who also had a good one.

    There seems to be little truth to the proposition that it is harder on the arm than the circle change from the few studies I seen.

    Don’t like the one-size fits all approach to teaching pitching.

  64. MG July 13th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Niblick July 13th, 2013 at 8:56 am
    Gene Michael is 75. I’m not sure I’d trust his eyes with much.
    —————
    based on your comments on this blog Stick’s age>your IQ

  65. 86w183 July 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    ron —

    I agree Cruz is not an ideal every day 3B, but he’s better than his career of spot duty would tend to indicate. I’d rather have him than Nix or Gonzalez for example.

    I think the Yanks knew they’d get little to nothing from A-Rod.

    The biggest hit for this team has been the almost complete absence of Jeter, Teixeira and Granderson, neither one of which could have been anticipated. That’s 267 Runs, 82 HR and 248 RBI from last year.

  66. Bo knows July 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Cruz might be good on d.I don’t know,but he is ops,ing in the 5.s right now,and that is just not good.
    —–
    How can you watch games and not know if he’s good on D but rely on numbers that someone else posted?

    Not trying to be difficult, but it’s puzzling.

    Cano always gets bad numbers on D, mostly for his range and yet doesn’t get credit for not getting hurt and playing most games.

    To me that’s simplistic, bean counter stats without context.

  67. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    86-

    Well Tex is out for the season.

    Jeter’s ability to stay healthy is in question.

    That leaves Granderson.

    :(

  68. MG July 13th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    We’ll never know if Jete’s injury was due to playing a day game after a night game, whether it was too soon, etc, etc, etc,

    My opinion is that s**t happens, there is no timetable for straining a muscle while running hard and one day more or less isn’t going to make a difference.

    He was originally going to play his first game last night at SS-my guess is that if they’d waited he would have been pulled from the lineup or DH’ed because of the slick field and had today off.

    In that case, if he is back in the lineup next Friday there it was ‘no harm, no foul’.

    We all want Jete back in the lineup, he has a week to heal this strain and hopefully he will be OK by next Friday.

  69. jpb173 July 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Nunez not in the lineup today(Cruz at short…Gonzalez at third). I wonder if Nunez’s ribcage is bother him.

  70. MTU July 13th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    If injuries were like gold then the Yankees would be like Ft. Knox.

    ;)

  71. Doreen July 13th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    A week is pretty optimistic. I got the impression that waiting was a concession to Jeter who doesn’t want to be DLed and that Cashman expects to have to DL him anyway.

  72. MG July 13th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    It looks like Girardi has decided that if Wells is swinging the bat better than Hafner then he’s in the lineup regardless of who is pitching.

    I have no issue with that, it’s too late in the season to be waiting on someone pulling out of a deep slump and Hafner looks lost up there most of the time-behind on every fastball, ahead of every breaking/off speed pitch

  73. LGY July 13th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Bo knows says:
    July 13, 2013 at 10:12 am
    Ichiro’s contract was a very poor use of resources.
    —————-
    I think the operative phrase was “for his age”. I definitely wasn’t on board with the Ichiro signing. Wanted Hunter for the bridge to the kids. Ichiro is what he is – he isn’t the problem, it’s the decision making. He gave you a little lift last year, move on.

    ——-

    Gonna have to disagree that an 88 OPS+ at any age is an amazing season.

  74. austinmac July 13th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    I don’t think we have more strains etc. than anyone else. It just feels like that because it’s our team. The Braves have lost their entire outfield recently.

    The Yankees of the late 90s had great depth. The bench wasn’t much of a drop off.

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