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Yankees bounce back in Boston

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 20, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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If low-scoring games are going to define the Yankees season, they fewer nights like Friday and more days like today. Hiroki Kuroda was terrific and one big inning by the offense was enough for a 5-2 Yankees win in their second game at Fenway Park. Five hits in the seventh led to three Yankees runs, which was enough breathing room for the team’s top three pitchers. Kuroda got the win with seven strong innings, Dave Robertson pitched a scoreless eighth and Mariano Rivera picked up his 31st save after getting a standing ovation from the Fenway crowd. Brett Gardner, Lyle Overbay and Eduardo Nunez each had three hits, including one apiece in that pivotal seventh when the Yankees turned a 1-0 lead into a 4-0 lead, enough to survive a mild two-run Red Sox rally.  The game included three outs at the plate, including the one that ended the fifth inning after a slider got past Chris Stewart, who got the ball and threw home in time to get Kuroda out of a jam. Stewart also turned a stunning double play to end the eighth, tumbling into the stands to catch a foul popup, then throwing to second to get a runner trying to advance on the play. Kuroda ultimately allowed two runs on five hits. He walked one, struck out four and has allowed more than two earned runs in only one of his past seven starts.

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130 Responses to “Yankees bounce back in Boston”

  1. Nick in SF July 20th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Season saved!

  2. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    “cofuzz says: July 20, 2013 at 7:38 pm According to Tom Tango’s run expectancy charts from 1993-2010, a team is more likely to score at least one run with runners at 2nd and 3rd and one out than with runners at 1st and 2nd with none out. It’s a 69.8% likelihood in the fomer scenario, 64.3% in the latter. If the team chooses then to walk Cano, the chances for one run actually falls, to 67.9%, but are still higher than in the no bunt scenario.”

    According to ’13 Yankees score chart, scoring runs not RBI’d by Cano are around 0,01 %

  3. ConcernedCitizen July 20th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Can’t get over Stewart’s double play. That was amazing.

  4. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Some sushi now, Nick?

  5. yankeefeminista July 20th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Kuroda

  6. UpState July 20th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    McCarver:

    Really….just STFU….really.

    He’s borderline intolerable.

  7. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Yes, Stewart’s play was a gem

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    yankeefeminista July 20th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Let’s just talk about 2004 when Mo is pitching and we are winning have won. Um, huh?
    ///

    Those b*stards. Good thing I watch these Fox games without the sound :D

  9. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    yankeefeminista July 20th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
    Kuroda
    I guess your lights are still on.

  10. ConcernedCitizen July 20th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    McCarver will find a way to bring up the 2004 ALCS during every game. Doesn’t matter who’s playing. He probably talks about it in his sleep.

  11. austinmac July 20th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    That game kept the hopes alive. Kuroda is so tough. I hope they try to keep him next year. He gets better and better.

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    It’s actually so very Whole Foods. Mine are better, but didn’t feel like going to the trouble.

    Wife makes them too.
    ///

    You’ll want to hang onto that one :D
    I use wild rice and potato rather than bread crumbs, unless I’m doing a Italian meatball facsimile, in which case, I just use my father’s or grandmother’s traditional recipe and substitute the salmon for beef; or if I’m making them Japanese style, in which case, I’ll use panko flakes.

  13. austinmac July 20th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Upstate,

    McCarver crossed the border with me long ago. Can he just shut up?

  14. cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    jmv,
    I get what you’re saying, but Overbay’s actually better in that protection spot than the people Girardi has otherwise jammed in that hole.
    He’s got a 1.172 OPS with runners on third and fewer than 2 outs. It’s .933 with the bases loaded.

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    He gets better and better.
    ///

    Yup. Hope we re-sign him.

  16. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    You’ll want to hang onto that one :D
    I use wild rice and potato rather than bread crumbs, unless I’m doing a Italian meatball facsimile, in which case, I just use my father’s or grandmother’s traditional recipe and substitute the salmon for beef; or if I’m making them Japanese style, in which case, I’ll use panko flakes.

    She calls hers “cakes” as in Crab Cakes. But they are huge, the size of a burger and pretty much resemble her Maryland Crab Cakes in the ingredients.

  17. Nick in SF July 20th, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    “Some sushi now, Nick?”

    Ramen/sushi celebration tomorrow night. Made dinner plans for tonight already. Doh!

  18. cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    On the other hand, Wells is OPSing .533 with the bases loaded and .653 with runners on third and fewer than two outs.
    Hafner’s OPSing .452 with loaded bases and .808 with runners on third and fewer than two outs.

    Letting Ichiro bunt, especially with Overbay behind Cano, is the closest thing to a guarantee of one more run.

  19. UpState July 20th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    austinmac July 20th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
    Upstate,

    McCarver crossed the border with me long ago. Can he just shut up?
    =========================================

    I’d like to give him respect based on his longevity and occasional good stories; but this RS devotion is awful and it should actually be embarrassing to him…

    It’s just obnoxious…..(you’d think he was working for ESPN )

  20. luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Good evening everyone,

    Missed the game :( It seems Kuroda was….Kuroda Three hits from Nunez, maybe this is the start of a good run from him… Didn’t watch Stew’s DP, but it sounds that it was amazing

  21. luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    I only got to see Mo’s last k

  22. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    austinmac July 20th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
    Upstate,

    McCarver crossed the border with me long ago. Can he just shut up?

    Gave up on Timmy a long time ago. I expect the Yankees bashing from most network announcers outside of maybe Smoltz. It’s the idiotic things Timmy says during the game.
    Example: “Bryce Harper is a LH hitter, with a Right Handers swing. That’s how he gets his power.”

  23. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    “cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
    jmv,
    I get what you’re saying, but Overbay’s actually better in that protection spot than the people Girardi has otherwise jammed in that hole.
    He’s got a 1.172 OPS with runners on third and fewer than 2 outs. It’s .933 with the bases loaded.”

    I wasn’t being too serious, cofuzz, LOL! Overbay was on a role today. Was facing a LHP, though. Anyway, I’m glad it went well, specially after the lazy running

  24. UpState July 20th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    ….and a great game from little Cruz & Oberbay !!!

  25. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Didn’t watch Stew’s DP, but it sounds that it was amazing

    Missed it too. Wife talked me into taking a run.

  26. luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Did Cruz actually had a good game at the plate?

  27. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Hi, luis!

    I finally beat you on catching a game this year, LOL

    Gem by Ichiro

    Double gem by Stewart at defence

    Both Cano and the Elf made dumb plays

    Overbay and Nunez on fire

    And that kid Mo made Salty break his bat

  28. cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    jmv,
    I knew there was sarcasm in your response, but some people here are so vehement in their opposition to those late inning bunts.
    I thought perhaps statistical proof of its likely effectiveness might temper their criticism.

  29. luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
    Didn’t watch Stew’s DP, but it sounds that it was amazing

    Missed it too. Wife talked me into taking a run.

    =========================

    In my case the wife insisted in going out for a “romantic lunch” :( I mean great, but I missed most of the game

  30. tbone1570 July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Didn’t watch Stew’s DP, but it sounds that it was amazing

    *********************************
    It was an awesome play! Unfortunately, his defense for the rest of the game was well below average for a ML catcher.

  31. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    “luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
    Did Cruz actually had a good game at the plate?”

    Yes! I forgot him!

    How could I? I was watching the game at Fox LA

  32. luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    jmv July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
    Hi, luis!

    I finally beat you on catching a game this year, LOL

    Gem by Ichiro

    Double gem by Stewart at defence

    Both Cano and the Elf made dumb plays

    Overbay and Nunez on fire

    And that kid Mo made Salty break his bat

    ========================

    Looks like a typical Mo outing! ;)

    There is always a first time for everything ;)

  33. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    “cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
    jmv,
    I knew there was sarcasm in your response, but some people here are so vehement in their opposition to those late inning bunts.
    I thought perhaps statistical proof of its likely effectiveness might temper their criticism.”

    For the record, I don’t hate bunts. Specially with this offense. But I’d rather have Cano swinging every single day. Your stats are well appreciated, at least by me

  34. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    tbone1570 July 20th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
    luis July 20th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Didn’t watch Stew’s DP, but it sounds that it was amazing

    *********************************
    It was an awesome play! Unfortunately, his defense for the rest of the game was well below average for a ML catcher.

    ============================

    hey T-bone!

    Saw your post of last night… The point was that the ump IMO couldn’t tell for sure if it was a gesture toward his game calling or if it was out frustration… He should have warned him rather than toss him… But yeah, I agree that he ( Gardner ) put himself in that situation

  35. bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Well done Red Sox fans for showing Mo the respect he deserves. One win won’t define the season but as things stand, this really was a must-win for the Yanks today.

  36. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    About bunting… I am not a big fan… Usually you are giving away an out… I can’t opine on this particular game, but with the kind of offense we have, they should probably do it a little more

  37. Hankflorida July 20th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Another homerless game from the Yankees as they have to work hard to keep the line moving and score runs. Tomorrow we sit Hafner and who else in order to get Mesa and Neal in the game?

  38. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    “luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
    About bunting… I am not a big fan… Usually you are giving away an out… I can’t opine on this particular game, but with the kind of offense we have, they should probably do it a little more”

    two on, no outs, Ichiro at bat, Cano on deck, Overbay behind him. LHP. Your call?

  39. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    In my case the wife insisted in going out for a “romantic lunch” :( I mean great, but I missed most of the game

    Next time go to Hooters. They have sports on all the TV sets.

  40. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    first and second, of course

  41. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    “Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
    In my case the wife insisted in going out for a “romantic lunch” :( I mean great, but I missed most of the game

    Next time go to Hooters. They have sports on all the TV sets.”

    I’m pretty sure wives love romantic dinners at sport bars, LOL.

    And they love Hooter chicks, too

  42. Captain Clutch July 20th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Today’s game was a must win with CC pitching tomorrow. He has been terrible against the Sox the last 2 years or so.

  43. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    two on, no outs, Ichiro at bat, Cano on deck, Overbay behind him. LHP. Your call?

    ===============================

    In this case, I wouldn’t bunt… Bunting means taking the bat away from Cano with first base open… Also, Ichiro is a fairly fast runner which makes him very hard to double up

  44. tbone1570 July 20th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    hey T-bone!

    Saw your post of last night… The point was that the ump IMO couldn’t tell for sure if it was a gesture toward his game calling or if it was out frustration… He should have warned him rather than toss him… But yeah, I agree that he ( Gardner ) put himself in that situation

    *************************

    Luis,

    I was taught to that you never did anything to show up the ump. As a catcher I learned that you could say almost anything to the ump, as long as you didn’t turn and make it look like you are confronting him. Girardi knows this too, but was just protecting his player in his post game comments.

  45. cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    luis,
    If you’re playing for one run, the bunt is definitely the right move.
    If you need multiple runs, it’s actually still a better move if the protection hitter is competent.
    Tango’s chart (http://beyondthescorecard.blog.....ncies.html) shows the run expectancy for a team is:
    1st and 2nd, no outs – 1.556
    2nd and 3rd, one out – 1.447 BUT if you assume the walk to Cano follows…
    Bases loaded, one out – 1.631

  46. bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    A romantic dinner at Hooters. Now there’s an anachronism if ever I’ve heard one :)

  47. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Next time go to Hooters. They have sports on all the TV sets.

    ======================

    I am sure your wife as well as mine would have a different idea of what a romantic dinner is ;)

    They like candle lights, a violinist on a nice and cozy French Bistro. But I would certainly like to take her to sports bar!

  48. Howler July 20th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Hopefully I’m wrong but I see Ichiro going on another one of his useless streaks.

  49. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Hankflorida July 20th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
    Another homerless game from the Yankees as they have to work hard to keep the line moving and score runs. Tomorrow we sit Hafner and who else in order to get Mesa and Neal in the game?

    Me I’d sit Wells even if it is a LH on the mound. Of course I’d have brought up both Cubans and got rid of Wells and Lilliputian. I really doubt Girardi starts both guys. The only time guys come right up and play is if its guys like Girardi. Bench warmers like Lilliputian, that 1st baseman that stayed one day, (Travis ?), Cruz. New guys that are from the Yankee system. No.

  50. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    “luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
    two on, no outs, Ichiro at bat, Cano on deck, Overbay behind him. LHP. Your call?

    ===============================

    In this case, I wouldn’t bunt… Bunting means taking the bat away from Cano with first base open… Also, Ichiro is a fairly fast runner which makes him very hard to double up”

    I agree with that. Joe was going for the bunt, though. But suddenly, A pickoff attempt ended with runners at first and third. Ichiro popped up, Cano SF’d

  51. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    A romantic dinner at Hooters.

    Last time I was there they had a birthday party for a 12 year old kid.

  52. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    tbone1570 July 20th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    hey T-bone!

    Saw your post of last night… The point was that the ump IMO couldn’t tell for sure if it was a gesture toward his game calling or if it was out frustration… He should have warned him rather than toss him… But yeah, I agree that he ( Gardner ) put himself in that situation

    *************************

    Luis,

    I was taught to that you never did anything to show up the ump. As a catcher I learned that you could say almost anything to the ump, as long as you didn’t turn and make it look like you are confronting him. Girardi knows this too, but was just protecting his player in his post game comments.

    ========================

    I guess it comes with the different cultures… In my time, we usually would get away with it with just a warning

  53. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    And cofuzz showed that stats.

    And then I joked saying ’13 yankees are way off the charts, LOL

    Where did you eat, luis? If may I ask

  54. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    *those* stats

  55. comnsnse July 20th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Re: McCarver, not so much a Sox fan, that “homer” honor goes to Gammons!

    Tim is simply anti Yankee as is Buck and others in media land!

    McCarver has obviously good baseball knowledge but is unable to abide the Yanks success and it comes out in his commentary.

  56. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
    luis,
    If you’re playing for one run, the bunt is definitely the right move.
    If you need multiple runs, it’s actually still a better move if the protection hitter is competent.
    Tango’s chart (http://beyondthescorecard.blog…..ncies.html) shows the run expectancy for a team is:
    1st and 2nd, no outs – 1.556
    2nd and 3rd, one out – 1.447 BUT if you assume the walk to Cano follows…
    Bases loaded, one out – 1.631

    ==================================

    The problem I see here is that Lyle would be a lot easier to double up if he hits it in to the ground… I saw the stats you provided, you make a very good case for the bunt in that situation… Obervay numbers are very good on that situation and the above mention stats back up your case as well… I just wouldn’t feel comfortable taking the bat away from my only competent bat

  57. bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    Never liked the wings at Hooters.

  58. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
    And cofuzz showed that stats.

    And then I joked saying ’13 yankees are way off the charts, LOL

    Where did you eat, luis? If may I ask

    ==========================

    Sure… Lasserre

  59. comnsnse July 20th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    The problem with being too upbeat after a win like this is, it appears the only way to win is to receive great pitching and hope someone gets a key hit.

    So after the euphoria settles you ask, how is this any different than the entire year to date?

  60. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Never liked the wings at Hooters.
    ============
    i hear the breasts are good…

  61. bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Was just waiting for the punchline…

  62. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    I agree with that. Joe was going for the bunt, though. But suddenly, A pickoff attempt ended with runners at first and third. Ichiro popped up, Cano SF’d

    ======================================

    What did Overbay do afterwards?

  63. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    at least buck wasnt in the booth to egg timmy on…with his whiny voice.

  64. cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    mick,
    i think you mean the wings?
    ;-)

  65. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    Was just waiting for the punchline…

    =============================

    The thing is that the only good breasts are the ones on TV… Usually I get very dissapointed when I go there

  66. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    el presidente with the good follow-up.

  67. bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Try the one on W56th Street, Luis. You won’t be disappointed.

  68. cofuzz July 20th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Overbay didn’t get the chance to hit with a runner on first and two outs in the ninth.
    Gardner got caught stealing second.
    But Lyle was 3-4 on the day, including 1-1 with an RBI single in his one plate appearance against a lefty (Thornton.)

  69. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
    Never liked the wings at Hooters.

    Last road trip we took, I stopped at Buffalo Wild Wings. Actually I don’t think I’ve ever taken my wife to Hooters but I thought Luis might try and fill me in.

  70. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    boston looks like their bubble is about to burst.
    seem like an overachieving group to me and
    their bullpen stinks.

  71. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Gardner got caught stealing second.

    After Cruz had just stole 3rd. Correct?

  72. Captain Clutch July 20th, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    One more game until the circus returns on Monday!!!! Who is ready? Woohoo..

  73. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    you’ve got to keep cruz around when alex gets back
    mesa and neal will be gone when jete comes back
    then grandy might cost hafner his job.

  74. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Luis,

    Overbay was out, but don’t remember how

    Lassere! Love French food. Specially Magret de Cannard…

    Please don’t tell your wife you’re dissapointed at Hooters, LOL

  75. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Right!

    That’s why I don’t remember. Gardner caugth stealing

  76. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Boston is way overachieving. No doubt about it

    Specially Iglesias and his .415 BABIP

  77. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    Specially Iglesias and his .415 BABIP

    He has a great voice though.

  78. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    I have to say, Hiroki Kuroda is really something.

    :)

  79. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    this season is just getting started..

  80. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Last road trip we took, I stopped at Buffalo Wild Wings. Actually I don’t think I’ve ever taken my wife to Hooters but I thought Luis might try and fill me in.

    ==================

    I’ll let you be the lab rat in this instance ;)

  81. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Mick,

    Your was way better than mine ;)

  82. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    I have to say, Hiroki Kuroda is really something.

    Never thought he would be this good. Especially in small parks. Never dreamed it. I was not excited about the signing. Thought he would be okay. Might be the best free agent pitcher signing they’ve had. For the money he is the best.

  83. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    bruceb July 20th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
    Try the one on W56th Street, Luis. You won’t be disappointed.

    =======================

    Will do, although I don’t think “The Boss” would agree to go with me there ;)

  84. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    can see a tough lineup in
    gardner
    jete
    cano
    alex
    grandy
    ichiro
    overbay
    almonte
    stewart

  85. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    “Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
    Specially Iglesias and his .415 BABIP

    He has a great voice though.”

    Hilarious, LOL

    But you can’t be serious. Both father and son have awful voices

  86. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    I’ll let you be the lab rat in this instance ;)

    She’s most partial to Spanish cuisine.

  87. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    But you can’t be serious. Both father and son have awful voices

    I sincerely doubt I’ve ever heard either. Just not my thing.

  88. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    But you can’t be serious. Both father and son have awful voices

    =============================

    But they have sold millions of records… Looks certainly have a lot to do with it! ;)

    Try the “Chicken Kiev” when you can and the “Grand Marnier Souflee”. You won’t be dissapointed ;)

  89. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
    I have to say, Hiroki Kuroda is really something.

    Never thought he would be this good. Especially in small parks. Never dreamed it. I was not excited about the signing. Thought he would be okay. Might be the best free agent pitcher signing they’ve had. For the money he is the best.

    ======================

    Yes… By a long shot as well

  90. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Please don’t tell your wife you’re dissapointed at Hooters, LOL

    ========================

    But I always do… You should do the same! ;)

  91. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Kuroda will be back next year with CC, Nova, Pineda,Phelps.
    Warren/Nuno in the wings.

  92. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Mick-

    I hope so. I really hope so.

    ;)

  93. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Kuroda seems to like it here and his 1 year contracts.

  94. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    MTU and Mick,

    I hope so… But you know there is the 189 mil thing

  95. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    luis-didnt you once figure out what we had left after we give kuroda and cano contracts?
    could be another patchwork quilt…next year

  96. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Life is filled with irony.

    Do you think when Kuroda came over to the Yankees that he thought he would be forced to work with such little run support ?

    He might be getting less per game than when he was with the Dodgers.

  97. luis July 20th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    She’s most partial to Spanish cuisine.

    =========================

    Hans,

    She has good taste… Congratulations

  98. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    they could bring raul back next year

  99. mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Do you think when Kuroda came over to the Yankees that he thought he would be forced to work with such little run support ?
    =============
    He seems to be better than last year when he had support.

  100. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    “Try the “Chicken Kiev” when you can and the “Grand Marnier Souflee””

    I will! Granted. About Hooters, I don’t know what it is. That’s my speech, LOL

    “I sincerely doubt I’ve ever heard either. Just not my thing.”

    Please keep it that way. All they do is getting tans

  101. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    thing is: with the lineup i gave above and the staff-we could more competitive next year than this one.

    Hal is really a mad genius-he wants to win and build at the same time.

  102. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Next year is Jeter’s walk year so you know he will have a big one.

  103. luis July 20th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Mick,

    I am not good at those things, probably JF did… But let’s say that you give Cano an 7/160 deal, that’s 23 mil give or take… Kuroda will require a raise ( he is our ace after all ) 15 mil?… That’ 38 mil give or take… Our payroll is at 230 mil… Money that comes off the books around 60 mil ( Mo 16 mil, Youk 12 mil, Hughes 6 or 7 mil, Granderson 14 mil, Pettitte 12 mil and some others I can’t think of right now )… I think they need to get to 172 in order to stay below the 189 mil mark… I don’t think they have space

  104. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Mick-

    He’s been amazing. The De Facto Ace of the staff.

    He’s pitched thru a lot of hard luck and just kept right on coming.

  105. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    mick July 20th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
    you’ve got to keep cruz around when alex gets back
    mesa and neal will be gone when jete comes back
    then grandy might cost hafner his job.

    Sad thing that Hafner would be around that long.

  106. luis July 20th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Got to go…. Later folks

  107. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    luis-i heard 100m is coming off the books i think.
    if andy is not back but grandy is for 1 year
    i wonder how much over we can go and not suffer LT hell?

  108. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    mtu-kuroda just might pitch better with less support.
    he might feel obligated to only give up 1-2 runs knowing he may only get 2-3

  109. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Hal is really a mad genius

    You can be serious. Hal might be mad. He knows less about baseball though then the old man, who knew less then a kid with a box of baseball cards.

  110. luis July 20th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Mick,

    If 100 mil are coming off the books is doable… Because the increase in pay would be around just 13 mil in comparison to their current contracts… Later

  111. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    MTU, glad to have you back. Did you watch the game?

    Later, luis!

    Where’s JF when we need the numbers?

  112. fantasygame101 July 20th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    still waiting for upgrade and not those on the injured list.

  113. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Mick-

    Hard to heap enough praise on the guy.

    JF, 86, and YT usually have a pretty good handle on the budget numbers by the way.

  114. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    i think it was 86 who said 100m is coming off earlier today.

  115. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Raul has 24 HR’s, I would try to get him back.

  116. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Hank must have been paid off.
    We haven’t heard a peep from him since the Arod deal.

  117. jmv July 20th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    From Baseball Prospectus;

    84 mm commited for 2014. You need to add controlled players.

  118. Jerkface July 20th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    With A-rod, Tex, CC, Ichiro, and Benefits you have 91.9 million on the books. Jeter will either be 15.5 million if he accepts his option, or 9+whatever his new contract is, or just 9 if he retires.

    So either 107.4 or 100.9 lets say.

    That leaves Either 81.6 million or 88.1 million available. With this money they need to: cover any bonuses (including Jeters bonuses which also apply in 2014 if he accepts his option), 20 players, 15 40 man players, anyone they trade for.

    If you pay Cano and Kuroda 38 million between them, and thats low end on Cano honestly, thats only 43.6 for 18 players, 15 40 man players, and everything else.

  119. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    It can be done then but they might make a QO to Grandy who could stay.
    The rest would be patchwork but they do have a core if healthy and the pitching is good.

  120. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    JF-

    I don’t think A-Rod will play next season.

    I believe he’ll be serving a 150 game suspension.

    That frees up about another 20 Mil.

  121. Jerkface July 20th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    I’m not sure it will. The rules don’t say so.

  122. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    JF-

    Is it a gray area ?

  123. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    I dont think he gets 150, they could be bluffing to get a plea.
    Their evidence and Bosh being the source will hurt them.
    He might get 50 then he might appeal.

  124. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Or they ask for 100 and he appeals.
    In that case is it all or nothing?
    say 100 or nothing.
    then if its a strong case he settles for 50.

  125. Tackelberry July 20th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Told u guys Nunez could hit!!

  126. MTU July 20th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Even if he only gets 50 that might free up about 7-8 million.

    My question is, “Is a suspended player’s full salary counted towards the luxury tax calculation ?”

  127. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    They will do the same thing they did this year. No new big contracts except for Cano.
    If they are/were healthy they would have competed this year.
    Heck they are competing.
    This has to be a 2 year hiatus with good pitching and healthy vets to succeed.

  128. mick July 20th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    Figure it out and let me know in the morning.
    Good night..

  129. Jerkface July 20th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    My question is, “Is a suspended player’s full salary counted towards the luxury tax calculation ?

    By common sense you’d think not, but by the letter of the CBA/JDA it reads like it counts anyways.

  130. Hans Davenport July 20th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Tackelberry July 20th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
    Told u guys Nunez could hit!!

    He’s playing regular and playing the same position instead of moving all around. He’s getting the at bats. That’s what he has needed.

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