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Mesa in the outfield for fly ball Hughes

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 23, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Josh Norris is reporting on the Twitters that David Phelps will pitch for Double-A Trenton tonight. Derek Jeter says he still expects to run and hit today.

Brett Gardner CF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Lyle Overbay 1B
Vernon Wells DH
Eduardo Nunez SS
Brent Lillibridge 3B
Melky Mesa LF
Austin Romine C

RHP Phil Hughes

 
 

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171 Responses to “Mesa in the outfield for fly ball Hughes”

  1. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    Can Mesa sit in the outfield with one of those butterfly catching net thingys?

  2. Tackelberry July 23rd, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    Melky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    Swing hard in case you hit it Melky

  4. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Can Mesa bring a ladder?

  5. Tackelberry July 23rd, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    WOuld have liked to see them switch Nunez and Ichiro in the lineup. Break up the lefties with a righty at the top and vice versa, but at least Hafner isn’t playing YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    “Aw, come on Ray, when more than one person knows something it can never be a secret.”

    Which is why we never heard boo about the doctor instructing Sux players in the use of injecting steroids until Merloni dropped it, and Merloni played for them how many eons ago? And then we never heard about it again? And the same with the Jack Daniels?

    Come on. You’ve heard about the code of silence in different venues I’m sure.

    Ray – THANK YOU! Good Lord, I didn’t think the dots were so hard to connect. I guess when you know the back story, it’s easier to understand the suggestion.

  7. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Every
    Single
    Thread.

  8. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    More whacko ramblings. What utter nonsense. Worthy of the authors, though.

  9. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    I believe Ogando is pitching tonight.

    He is just coming off the DL.

    Maybe we catch a break and he isn’t sharp.

    Of course I could argued that about Darvish yesterday.

    How’d that one turn out ?

    :(

  10. bruceb July 23rd, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    No Hafner against a righty…is this the end I wonder?

  11. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    edit : could have. sorry

  12. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    No Hafner against a righty…is this the end I wonder?

    That’s actually the one good thing about this lineup.

  13. jackamir July 23rd, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Hughes has pitched well in Texas…I think the Yankees steal one tonight… Rangers lineup is not as daunting as in years past…Go Phil…

  14. Warning Track Power July 23rd, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    That right there is a winning line-up my friends.
    I can see extra base hits tonight.
    LET’S GO YANKEES!!!
    LET’S GO YANKEES!!!

  15. Against All Odds July 23rd, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:01 pm
    @McCulloughSL: Jeter on Soriano: “I have to be honest with you. I don’t watch many Cubs games. I barely watch our games.”

    —————–

    Ppl would be surprised how little Jeter loves the game. He loves to compete but watching the actual game…he could do w/o it.

  16. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    tricia, some folks are narrow minded, pay no attention to em.

  17. bruceb July 23rd, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    They better steal one tonight because the odds are against them when they face Garza (on debut) and Holland, who completely shut them down at Yankee Stadium last month.

  18. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    “Ppl would be surprised how little Jeter loves the game. He loves to compete but watching the actual game…he could do w/o it.”

    I don’t think that means he doesn’t love the game……he might just not enjoy watching it when he can’t play

  19. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    @jay_jaffe: Melky Mesa’s 94/7 K/BB ratio & .277 OBP -at AAA- is just what ailing Yankee offense needs, besides a pillow to smother it out of its misery

  20. austinmac July 23rd, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Great defensive outfield. I hope Cano hits three homers.

  21. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    If Hughes throws a shut out then we should win

  22. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    The next thing coming out on this thread will be that all Sox players are de-programmed by a Man in Black with some kind of gun to dis-remember everything they say in the clubhouse while with the team.

    Talk about lunacy…

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    “More whacko ramblings. What utter nonsense”

    What’s the “utter nonsense”? Put up or shut up niblick. Because your head is up your backside on this one and you’re going to look like a total fool if you’re talking about the Merloni or Millar stories.

  24. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    saw, not say

  25. jackamir July 23rd, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    How can you say that Jeter doesn’t love baseball? That really upsets me!!! I don’t think he plays at this point for the money…If he retired today he would be a HOFer..with little to prove.

  26. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:25 pm
    If Hughes throws a shut out then we should win
    ————-
    or at least go to extra innings… :)

  27. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Trisha, yes I have heard of the “code of silence”, I saw Serpico!

    Think we’ll ever see it on this blog?

    That’s a straight line boys and girls! ;)

  28. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    “If Hughes throws a shut out then we should win
    ————-
    or at least go to extra innings… ”

    Lol true…. No guarantees

  29. AndyFTM July 23rd, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    If Phil isnt keeping the ball down tonite it will get messy.

    Can’t wait to see Melky take some hacks he deserves this opportunity.

  30. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Pretty much all of your unfounded accusations about the sox and drugs are utter nonsenses. Why don’t you put or shut up? Why don’t you offer some proof? Or better yet, just shut up about that. You’re becoming a laughingstock.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    “tricia, some folks are narrow minded, pay no attention to em.”

    Thank you eb03. I can understand ManningRules being narrow minded because he’s a scientist and they absolutely do not think out of the box. It’s part of their training. I’m pretty sure the mantra with scientific types is that if they can’t see it, it doesn’t exist.

    It’s too bad some of them weren’t taught to be respectful of others’ thinking even if it doesn’t comport with their own.

    Oh well.

  32. mick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    Now Jeter doesn’t love baseball?
    This thinking is a result of an Arod bias, who is a “student” of the game…

  33. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Trisha,

    Are you going to tell us, in you professional legal opinion, what you think of the current situation?

    Or are you on the phone, still?

    And really, who cares who said what ten years ago, or if a team had Jack Daniels in the clubhouse?
    Every team had users – that we know. It’s not about then, it’s about now. Can we put this conversation to bed – we get it – you believe something other than than everyone else

  34. mick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Why don’t you offer some proof? Or better yet, just shut up about that.
    =================
    That’s why they are called opinions.

  35. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Trish, you know the “dog with a bone theory”?

    Conspiracy has George’s pal in there, coincidence or cosmic ?

    The Trisha Report, movie potential? ;)

  36. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    nothing unreasonable suggested today. it’s always a “conspiracy theory” until it later comes out as truth.

    -Galileo

  37. jackamir July 23rd, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    Brandon Inge is DFA’d.. New 3rd baseman?

  38. mick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    Why would Hafner sitting mean he is gone for Soriano?
    Maybe he is in a trade or hurt..

  39. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Scientists rely on evidence and are objective. I can’t believe anyone would criticize someone for those qualities.

    Others rely on faith, speculation, innuendo, fairy tales and make believe. Hello, Trisha.

  40. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:31 pm
    “tricia, some folks are narrow minded, pay no attention to em.”

    Thank you eb03. I can understand ManningRules being narrow minded because he’s a scientist and they absolutely do not think out of the box. It’s part of their training. I’m pretty sure the mantra with scientific types is that if they can’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    ——————–
    I didn’t think it was possible for someone to make a more ridiculous, more stupid comment than the one about the Sox players being tipped on their drug tests.

    Then I read this one.

    Unbelievable.

    If that were true, the world would still be dependent upon rubbing two sticks together to start a fire.

    Words cannot truly describe how idiotic that comment is.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    “Pretty much all of your unfounded accusations about the sox and drugs are utter nonsenses. Why don’t you put or shut up? Why don’t you offer some proof? Or better yet, just shut up about that. You’re becoming a laughingstock.”

    The same way I was a “laughinstock” when I said Ortiz and Manny were using well before it came out? It’s okay niblick, you know what they say about he or she who laughs last.

    I don’t need the nod of approval from some of the posters here to feel validated, trust me. I’m pretty well set in life and got there without props from anyone here.

    I already said it is my belief, just as it was my BELIEF Ortiz and Manny were using. I didn’t have proof of that either and I still believed it to be the case.

    Because you disagree doesn’t make you right. You do know that, correct?

    Still, I respect your right to think whatever way you choose to think.

  42. AndyFTM July 23rd, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Ignore the all-knowing club trisha, opinions come in all shapes and sizes and while yours might be out there a little at least you stand behind it.

  43. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Right on, MG.

  44. mick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    So if someone states some thing like a fact here (god knows nobody does that) vs wondering if their opinion is true or not, that is subject to ridicule?

    The blog needs to know…

  45. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    can understand ManningRules being narrow minded because he’s a scientist and they absolutely do not think out of the box.

    This is absolute jibberish, and couldn’t be further from the truth. Without scientists, of any flavor, thinking outside the box, you’d have neither the ability to type such nonsense on this wacky internet machine, or lavish yourself with all the luxuries that money can buy – from your law firm. That you run. Nor would you have the water you drink, or the food you eat. Or the medicine you take (assuming on that last one).

    Science makes the world go around, and more specifically, the science of progress and advancement, which only happens when those men “think outside the box”

    Please curb your blanketed flame throwing.

  46. UpState July 23rd, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    jackamir July 23rd, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    Brandon Inge is DFA’d.. New 3rd baseman?
    ========================================================

    INGE :

    36YO ….R/R

    105 AB’s…..1-7…. .181

    vs LHP = .171

    vs RHP = .186

    RISP = .167

    —————————————-

    Consistent.

    No thank you.

  47. Locke July 23rd, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    MG – Your comment reminded me of a story from a biography I read about Sandy Koufax.

    On June 5, 1964, Sandy Koufax pitched a no-hitter. Drysdale did not know what the Dodgers had done that day until he returned to his hotel and watched a late night TV newscast. As quoted in the Associated Press on June 6, Drysdale said that after he heard on the news that Koufax had thrown his third career no-hitter, his first thought was “Did he win it?”

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    “I didn’t think it was possible for someone to make a more ridiculous, more stupid comment than the one about the Sox players being tipped on their drug tests.”

    I think someone already pointed out there is no evidence – either way.

    ***************

    “I can’t believe anyone would criticize someone for those qualities.”

    I’m not criticizing it. Just saying it’s different from thinking about things that are unseen or not thought about and considering it as a potential reality.

  49. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Words cannot truly describe how idiotic that comment is.

    x eleventy million.

  50. UpState July 23rd, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Baseball anyone ???

  51. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West July 23rd, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Trisha,

    Can I ask what type of law you practice? I can’t for the life of me understand how you have time to type on the Internet all day. My partner is an attorney and barely has time to call me if we have an emergency at home.

    Ps this is not an insult in any way.. Just looking for suggestions for my wife’s next job.

  52. jackamir July 23rd, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    Inge—-No thank you is my vote!!!

  53. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    I’m not criticizing it. Just saying it’s different from thinking about things that are unseen or not thought about and considering it as a potential reality.

    Again, wrong on an infinite amount of levels. The mere ability to think about things that are not seen is the basis of progress of this planet. A person, capable of seeing something that doesn’t yet exist, or a compound that hasn’t yet be prepared to advance civilization.

    Please retract.

  54. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Is it not possible to believe in Science and it’s value, and yet be a person of Faith ?

    I see them as two separate realms each with their own particular value and place.

    Just need to be sure not to confuse the one with other.

    I consider myself such a person. I am sure there are others.

    ;)

  55. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Must be the non evidence based, unscientific, kind.

  56. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:39 pm
    “I didn’t think it was possible for someone to make a more ridiculous, more stupid comment than the one about the Sox players being tipped on their drug tests.”

    I think someone already pointed out there is no evidence – either way.

    ***************

    “I can’t believe anyone would criticize someone for those qualities.”

    I’m not criticizing it. Just saying it’s different from thinking about things that are unseen or not thought about and considering it as a potential reality.
    —————–
    you really need to step away from the keyboard and google the term, ‘Quantum mechanics’ or ‘quantum physics’, it’s the backbone of all the great scientific discoveries in the past century and is the furthest thing from ‘see it, believe it’ that you could imagine as everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, is abstract, there is nothing that is obvious or that can be observed.

    Other than that, you are right on target…

  57. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    there’s more than enough evidence to suggest that something shady is going on that allows the red sox to skate free of any steroid allegations. foremost, george mitchell. secondary, david ortiz’ resurgence well past the decline stage of his career after already having allegedly tested positive for peds once.

  58. Locke July 23rd, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Does anybody on here like Baseball?

    “The Boston Red Sox and All-Star second baseman Dustin Pedroia have reached agreement on a seven-year contract worth around $100 million”

  59. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    there’s more than enough evidence to suggest that something shady is going on that allows the red sox to skate free of any steroid allegations. foremost, george mitchell. secondary, david ortiz’ resurgence well past the decline stage of his career after already having allegedly tested positive for peds once.

    I have a sore pinky toe.

  60. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Oh, I”m sorry. I thought we were talking about crap that doesn’t matter, eb03

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    “Ignore the all-knowing club trisha, opinions come in all shapes and sizes and while yours might be out there a little at least you stand behind it.”

    Thanks Andy. I’ve said things here before and certain posters have come out of their caves and jumped all over it and derided it – only to find out later that some baseball expert was proffering the same thing at another time. Of course, those posters conveniently ignore those moments, when it was they who were shown to be absolutely wrong.

    I’m extremely comfortable with my thought processes and have never needed group approbation to feel okay with my thinking.

    The only real downside is that there are posters who by nature cannot convey disagreement without being nasty and rotten about it. I once said that I always suspect those posters are very young, highly uneducated, a combination of both – or just plain jerks.

    Thanks for the support though.

  62. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    I’m with you, Locke.

    We covered it extensively in the last thread.

    Now we are just waiting for the HR derby in Texas tonight.
    :)

  63. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Well who thinks it was just the RSox that were tipped? When is the last time a Yankee was found to fail a drug test?

    Perhaps the players were notified in advance of when testings would be. I mean Braun had passed how many tests before he failed one?

    If the tests are not random then truly it isn’t a test.

  64. UpState July 23rd, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    there’s more than enough evidence to suggest that something shady is going on that allows the red sox to skate free of any steroid allegations. foremost, george mitchell. secondary, david ortiz’ resurgence well past the decline stage of his career after already having allegedly tested positive for peds once.

    =============================================

    Not sure about ‘evidence’…..change the thought to ‘appearance’ and we’ve got something of a decent statement.

    Shady, yes….proven, unfortunately not…..move on (it’s getting stupid)

  65. Niblick July 23rd, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Trisha, your thought processes are nonexistant. Glad you’re comfortable with them, though. Ain’t self-delusion wonderful?

  66. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    “Can I ask what type of law you practice? I can’t for the life of me understand how you have time to type on the Internet all day. My partner is an attorney and barely has time to call me if we have an emergency at home.”

    Michelle B – I suggest you go on this forum and go back every day for maybe the past month and see how many times I was on the internet all day. Then ask your question and I might answer it.

  67. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    there’s more than enough evidence to suggest that something shady is going on that allows the red sox to skate free of any steroid allegations. foremost, george mitchell. secondary, david ortiz’ resurgence well past the decline stage of his career after already having allegedly tested positive for peds once.
    —————
    How about these names:
    -Johnny Damon
    -Kevin Youkilis

    and every other player who left the Red Sox in the past 10 years, did they all go through reprogramming, the same kind referenced by Roger Clemens when he said Andy has ‘dis-remembered’?

    Baseball, like all pro sports, is 100% cutthroat, if players will cheat any way possible to get an edge, wouldn’t every ex-player be willing to out an ex-teammate if they thought it would help their current team?

  68. Locke July 23rd, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    there’s more than enough evidence to suggest that something shady is going on that allows the red sox to skate free of any steroid allegations. foremost, george mitchell. secondary, david ortiz’ resurgence well past the decline stage of his career after already having allegedly tested positive for peds once.

    ———–

    The allegation that MLB (or some of the leadership) is actively helping cover up Boston PED use is ridiculous in my opinion. I’m sure plenty of Boston players have taken PEDs (and I wouldn’t be surprised if Ortiz was on them now) but that doesn’t mean that they are slipping by undetected because of some MLB conspiracy.

    Just imagine the consequences to the sport if it was discovered that the MLB was actively covering up PED use for a single team. It seems silly to argue about something with 0 evidence. If/When something comes out everybody who posted about the cover up can come back to rub it in our faces.

  69. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    The only real downside is that there are posters who by nature cannot convey disagreement without being nasty and rotten about it. I once said that I always suspect those posters are very young, highly uneducated, a combination of both – or just plain jerks.

    Edit:

    The only real downside is that there are posters, who by nature, cannot convey disagreement without being nasty and rotten about it. I once said that, (that) I always suspect (ed) those posters are very young, highly uneducated, a combination of both – (,) or just plain jerks.

    If you’re going to assume…

  70. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Ok, if there is all this shady testing notifying going on don’t you think Bud would have been protecting his Brewers too?

    Come on people use some common sense.

  71. Locke July 23rd, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    ManningRules – I’ll have to go back and read it then. Seems like a team friendly deal. Hopefully it sets Cano’s expectations at a reasonable level.

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    ManningRules – if you cannot imagine that something can happen despite your not having evidence of it happening, then your thinking is not anywhere out of the box. Because I have no evidence that something is afoot doesn’t mean that it can’t be afoot.

  73. Locke July 23rd, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    DAM23 – Haha, good point.

  74. DONNYBROOK July 23rd, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    So Overbay is supposed to provide Cano with protection outta the 4 Hole? Girardi, (as always), remains clueless when it comes to batting order construction. I would bat Nunez behind Cano on this punch-drunk lineup card. Cruz should remain in the lineup, (if healthy), as he can situational hit, and provides very good D.

  75. thesheist July 23rd, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Via Rotoworld.com…

    According to CBS Evening News’ Jim Axelrod, Alex Rodriguez could be facing a lifetime ban from MLB.

    Ryan Braun was given a 65-game suspension on Monday for his involvement in the Biogenesis PED clinic and reports from ESPN have stated that the evidence against A-Rod is “far beyond” what Major League Baseball investigators had on the Brewers star. Rodriguez is presumably going to attempt to work out a deal with the commissioner’s office, but if MLB has enough evidence it could look to push the 37-year-old third baseman out for good. There’s much more to come.

  76. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    “I once said that, (that)”

    no comma after “that”

  77. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    Michelle B – I suggest you go on this forum and go back every day for maybe the past month and see how many times I was on the internet all day. Then ask your question and I might answer it.

    I don’t understand why you just don’t answer?

    If I was a big-shot law firm owner, I’d toss that mess out there on the regular.

    But alas, I’m just an highly under-educated, very young, plain jerk.

  78. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    “Ryan Braun was given a 65-game suspension on Monday for his involvement in the Biogenesis PED clinic and reports from ESPN have stated that the evidence against A-Rod is “far beyond” what Major League Baseball investigators had on the Brewers star. Rodriguez is presumably going to attempt to work out a deal with the commissioner’s office, but if MLB has enough evidence it could look to push the 37-year-old third baseman out for good. There’s much more to come.”

    Music to my ears.

  79. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    it’s all ridiculous conspiracies until the truth eventually comes out, says I, Galileo.

    Locke, were there any consequences for the NFL when Roger Goodell destroyed evidence in the form of video tapes that the Patriots had illegally made of other teams’ practices?

    Was there any consequence for the NFL or the Patriots, for that matter, besides a slap on the wrist fine and loss of draft pick?

  80. MG July 23rd, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    this just in:

    It has just been discovered that Bud Selig and John Henry have been employing giant wind machines to blow directly in from the outfield during every Yankees game but only when the Yankees are at bat.

    Additionally, they have also been letting hoards of termites loose on the Yankees bat rack during games. These invisible termites, naked only to those who eat New England clam chowder, have been chewing away at the bats of players like Travis Hafner, Vernon Wells, and Austin Romine, to make sure they don’t get any hits.

    Yankees co-owner Hank Steinbrenner, when asked about this said the following, ‘I’ve due at Malio’s in 15 minutes, it’s happy hour’.

    Film at 11…

  81. ManningRules July 23rd, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    ManningRules – if you cannot imagine that something can happen despite your not having evidence of it happening, then your thinking is not anywhere out of the box. Because I have no evidence that something is afoot doesn’t mean that it can’t be afoot.

    I never said I couldn’t. In fact, there is some stuff I can’t see “afoot” right now.

  82. luis July 23rd, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    Pretty entertaining threads… Thank you

  83. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    those video tapes likely had more of an impact than any steroid/ped could ever have. it’d be nice to see exactly what was on those video tapes to see exactly how the Patriots cheated their way to 3 super bowls. too bad we’ll never get the opportunity.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    “If I was a big-shot law firm owner, I’d toss that mess out there on the regular.

    But alas, I’m just an highly under-educated, very young, plain jerk.”

    The point is that I am hardly ever here in the day. Her question was predicated upon my practicing in a certain area of the law that would allow me to have freedom to be here all the time. Which I am no.

    If Michelle has any other questions, she’s free to ask.

    And I never claimed to be a big-shot law-firm owner. You make may assumptions my friend. I work for myself. Period.

    I do find you to be rude, however, and I find little need of that and have little use for it.

  85. UpState July 23rd, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Not sure about ‘evidence’…..change the thought to ‘appearance’ and we’ve got something of a decent statement.

    Shady, yes….proven, unfortunately not…..move on (it’s getting stupid)

    ……even Stupider !

  86. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    “it’s all ridiculous conspiracies until the truth eventually comes out, says I, Galileo.”

    Amen.

  87. DONNYBROOK July 23rd, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    The fact A-Rod was MIA from his minor league game, which immediately followed his bright light and rubber hose encounter with the MLB Gun Shoes, makes it obvious he was knocked for a loop when they dumped a mountain of evidence on him. The guy is desperately trying to find a landing spot he can live with the remainder of his days. Problem is, he ain’t dealin’ the cards, and the deck is stacked. His only option was to employ a 4 Corner Stall via his Dr, and that option is Extremely temporary. BUD is licking his chops. One down, One cowering.

  88. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Trish,” they all laughed at Christopher Columbus”!

    Stand your ground, except leave all weapons home…..except your mind! ;)

  89. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Too bad the Patriots cant destroy every Hernandez jersey and video of every Patriots game for the past few years to convince the world Aaron Hernandez never played for them. I made sure to purchase as many AHern jerseys as possible to make sure of that.

  90. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Does anyone think that Soriano might be able to play 3B?

  91. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West July 23rd, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Trisha,

    I was in no way being rude, but your answer to me sounded kind of rude. I wasn’t implying you don’t work hard either, however, I was wondering how you had the time to type on this forum for most of the day. As in I was thinking you probably don’t work big firm, because this would eat up your billables.

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    MG – making fun of people must make you feel so invigorated and superior!

    Good job!

  93. Benny Blanco July 23rd, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    Back page of most papers in the NY will read. “BAN-ROD

  94. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    There’s plenty of legit reasons to dislike Boston. All these goofy conspiracy theories are the kind of things Bostonians spend time whining about quite frankly.

  95. 56Bomber July 23rd, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    “According to CBS Evening News’ Jim Axelrod, Alex Rodriguez could be facing a lifetime ban from MLB.”

    Seems like Arod’s only chance to stay in the league is to be traded to the Red Sox where Bud Selig and John Henry can protect him…

  96. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    “According to CBS Evening News’ Jim Axelrod, Alex Rodriguez could be facing a lifetime ban from MLB.”

    No way ….believe that when I see it

  97. UpState July 23rd, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:06 pm
    Does anyone think that Soriano might be able to play 3B?
    ================================================

    10 games in 2000
    1 game in 2009

    I’m guessing that he won’t be adding to those numbers in 2013

    (would’ve been nice !)

  98. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    56Bomber says:
    July 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm
    “According to CBS Evening News’ Jim Axelrod, Alex Rodriguez could be facing a lifetime ban from MLB.”

    Seems like Arod’s only chance to stay in the league is to be traded to the Red Sox where Bud Selig and John Henry can protect him…

    ———————–

    Just think, if things had gone differently and A-Rod had gone to Boston for Manny, he would still be the great clean hope!

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Michelle B – one more time. Today was an aberration. I’m not typically here during the day.

    I work for myself and therefore set my own hours. That means I might be working in the wee hours of the morning when others are sound asleep.

    In addition, the majority of my work these days is pro bono for elderly clients.

    Before I quit my previous job, I was practicing primarily in the area of workforce discrimination.

    Hope this helps.

    If my answer was strident I apologize. It’s probably a function of having spent a good part of the afternoon responding to nasty, meanspirited, an accusatory posts. Civil discourse is unfortunatey a dying art.

    ;)

  100. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    56bomber, I assure you, if the MLBPA had allowed the trade of ARod to the Red Sox to go through long ago, he’d currently be in the same boat as David Ortiz, sipping “milkshakes” and being a hero to many.

    It was the biggest mistake of ARod’s life, coming to the Yankees instead of the Red Sox. I feel horrible for him. He deserves the opportunity to back in time or to an alternate universe in which he plays for the Red Sox and is beloved.

  101. blake July 23rd, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    @nickcafardo: Red Sox fans rooting for A-Rod? If he receives a lifetime ban, per a CBS report, it would free the Yankees of some $120 million.

  102. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West July 23rd, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    I can’t see him being banned for life without any positive tests. MLB can ban someone for life with only circumstantial evidence. If that did happen though would that void his contract?

  103. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    blake says:
    July 23, 2013 at 6:14 pm
    @nickcafardo: Red Sox fans rooting for A-Rod? If he receives a lifetime ban, per a CBS report, it would free the Yankees of some $120 million.

    ———-

    If Bud is looking after Red Sox, why would he even consider disciplining A-Rod?

  104. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West July 23rd, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Should say “can’t”

  105. Tyler July 23rd, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    I can’t see him being banned for life without any positive tests. MLB can ban someone for life with only circumstantial evidence. If that did happen though would that void his contract?
    —————————————————————————-

    They have to have something big on him. All the reports are that he’s got mountains more evidence than Braun. Blood samples or something significant.

  106. BD (Boston Dave) July 23rd, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    I can’t fathom them getting away with a lifetime ban.

    ARod would sue and would hopefully win. Not hopefully bc it’s good for the Yanks or that Alex deserves it. But if Braun gets 65 games… if the general rule is 50/100 and then lifetime… then it’s complete bs to try to ban any player for life.

    MLB has been too selective in going after players and if they want to improve testing, by all means do it.

    But even ARod deserves to be treated the same as any other player… even if a lifetime ban helps the team.

  107. saucY July 23rd, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Dear Blogfolk,

    Stop fighting!

    Love,
    saucY

  108. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    trust me, there will not be any lifetime ban for ARod, or anything more than 100 games. Bud knows the reward for the Yankees should Arod be banned permanently.

  109. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    “Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall inherit the [blog].”

    How bout we call a truce ?

    Everyone give everyone else a big Erica “pretend” internet handshake and lets be be done with this.

    Never mind who started what and who’s to blame just make peace and begin again.

    Believe as you wish. Just try and be respectful to each other when you are doing so.

    It works well most of the time.

    We are all Yankee fans here. Remember that when the convo gets off the rails sometimes.

    OK. Speech over. Attempt made.

    Continue to fire or holster your weapons please.

    :)

  110. BD (Boston Dave) July 23rd, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Who cares how much evidence they have?

    Braun used – 100%

    He got 65 games.

  111. ron July 23rd, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Arod would not be paid if he was banned for life.

  112. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    what could ARod have done to deserve a lifetime ban? Or, more specifically, what could he have done that was so significantly worse than any other person who used PEDs that would justify a lifetime ban? Tick off the media? Not be a “nice guy?”

    I understand he used. I understand he was caught when information that was supposed to be confidential was leaked. I understand he apologized and said he hadn’t done PEDs for a while and had no intention of doing them again, and quite possibly he made fools of all of us by going ahead and doing it again (or never actually stopping).

    But does he deserve a lifetime ban because he made fools of people who were willing to believe his story and apology? Did he use MORE than others? for a LONGER period of time? Or did he just disappoint people who thought he was “clean” and turned out not to be? Or because he comes off sometimes as an arrogant SOB? As objectionable as that it, it’s really not a crime to be a jackass. It’s off-putting and won’t win you any allies, but it’s not a crime.

    So unless MLB can show he really did something more heinous than any other cheater out there, I think it is ridiculous to be looking for a lifetime ban because you’re disappointed that you thought the best player in baseball was clean and he broke your heart.

  113. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    Most people’s wet dream. A-rod banned for life.

    NYY’s financial problems solved.

    Problem is that it’s likely a fantasy.

    A-rod would certainly fight it even IF it were true.

  114. AndyFTM July 23rd, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    I will go on the record and say that Alex will absolutely not be banned from baseball for life. Out of all the things that have happened in the last 15 years, that would shock me 100 times more than any of them.

  115. Tyler July 23rd, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    BD-

    The only thing I can think of is that it’s A-Rod and while players should all be treated the same, he’s not going to be. Selig wants him gone.. that’s pretty obvious. I don’t think it will stick either but MLB is going to shoot for the moon now that they have him pretty well cornered. Just my take.

  116. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Funny thing is the Prosecution often leaks the worst hoping to get the defense to accept what they want in the 1st place. i.e. – ARod goes peacefully for 150 games. (2014)

  117. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    Doreen, supposedly Arod interfered with investigation and that’s why they are going after him guns a blazin.

  118. Tyler July 23rd, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    But does he deserve a lifetime ban because he made fools of people who were willing to believe his story and apology? Did he use MORE than others? for a LONGER period of time? Or did he just disappoint people who thought he was “clean” and turned out not to be? Or because he comes off sometimes as an arrogant SOB? As objectionable as that it, it’s really not a crime to be a jackass. It’s off-putting and won’t win you any allies, but it’s not a crime.
    ——————————————————————————

    I feel like it’s all of this and it’s really not fair. A-Rod is a lightening rod. Selig is at fault as much as anybody for this mess when he turned his back to it in ’98. An AP reporter found the bottle of Andro in McGwire’s locker. All the signs were right there but LaRussa, Selig, etc. shut the door on it. Now he’s got to make a statement and he’s going to try (don’t think he’ll succeed all the way) against the once clean hope and a guy who has caused Selig plenty of headaches.

  119. AndyFTM July 23rd, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    “RayVT says:
    July 23, 2013 at 6:23 pm
    Funny thing is the Prosecution often leaks the worst hoping to get the defense to accept what they want in the 1st place. i.e. – ARod goes peacefully for 150 games. (2014)”

    Spot on

  120. JobaTipsHisCap July 23rd, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    lol chad, nice title

  121. BD (Boston Dave) July 23rd, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    Doreen and Tyler -

    Agreed. I wonder if this is a typical media stir up or if MLB is just spreading a rumor to coerce Alex to cooperate.

    No chance he gets banned for life wihtout a huge legal battle and I don’t think MLB wants that.

  122. jacksquat July 23rd, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Maybe the Yanks will slip a little something into Bud’s offshore account if he gives Arod a lifetime ban.

  123. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    DAM23 -

    I guess they have proof of that? I thought I read that Bosch offered to sell him the evidence against him and he refused?

    But here’s the thing – I feel like ARod has ALWAYS been a target. I don’t say he doesn’t deserve punishment at all; but I feel like baseball has focused on him, and I think it is ultimately due to some feeling of disappointment, like baseball felt it was “duped” by ARod and made a fool of and so he must pay more than anyone else.

    Braun is collateral damage. The other players are collateral damage. ARod is the one they are after. Like Bonds and Clemens before him. These were players that were revered and put on a pedestal for their talents. And the joke was on baseball so these players must pay.

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    And about Selig protecting his Brewers. The information, which was made public, came from Bosch. Once that information became public, there was little Selig could do to “protect” it. It dealt with players buying PEDs, not players being drug-tested by MLB.

  125. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    And what exactly did Melky Cabrera do ?

    Didn’t he try to interfere with an investigation by inventing things to interfere with finding the truth ?

    Did he get a lifetime ban ?

    Ain’t happening. And even if they tried it. It will not stick.

  126. Tyler July 23rd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    BD-

    Thinking that it’s what Ray outlined above. I think they would love for A-Rod to accept a 100+ game ban. No lifetime one but a nice, easy, long ban that carries well into next year. There are reports that A-Rod is working on a deal but I think it would be awesome if he really fought MLB hard. Easy for me to say though with nothing at stake, haha.

  127. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    MG, the wind machine, very funny.

    Humor like music can sometimes sooth the savage breast…..and every so often a gentle hand! ;)

  128. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    And I already stated that my belief was that Selig was doing it to help Henry win back his fan base. That has nothing to do with the Brewers.

  129. ron July 23rd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Going to be almost impossible for arod to be banned for life considering the only test he failed was a voluntary one that was supposed to be sealed by court order til the feds busted in,and stole the tests.
    Also,even if you count that,the biogenesis thing makes 2 violations.
    It is one thing to give mlb more latitude to suspend players,needing only concrete proof,and not a dirty test,quite another thing to ban a player for life,even if the biogenesis thing counts as a 2nd violation for arod.
    I just don’t see how they get a 3rd violation out of this.
    Also,how can arod be banned,but not braun?
    It’s a scare tactic.

  130. champ809 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    People….

    Robbie is making $15mil this year hitting completely naked in the middle of a replacement lineup and is on pace to hit about 40 HRs with 110-120rbis.

    Pedroia is hitting in a stacked lineup with vintage big papi protecting him and he’s on pace to hit 12 HRs with about 80-85 rbis

    There wasn’t any way Pedroia’s camp could ask for more than what they got forget hometown discount. If his production is worth $15mil per then cano is easily a $20-24 mil a year player.

    Pedroia basically got Jose Reyes $ ( slightly less as Jose got 6yrs 100+mil not 7yrs ) and that’s about right.

  131. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    This whole thing reminds me of a worker that was going to be fired, but he turned his resignation in before the company could fire him I remember the manager trying to stall the exit interview so he could fire him.

    That said, I wonder if ARod did retire for medical reasons, (too many drugs? LOL! Hip issues!), could he retire before the pending Selig conviction? Wonder how that plays out legally? If I were ARod I’d retire now for medical reasons! Besides you can always unretire if things worked out. (Maybe a little HGH & Blood work Colon style.)

  132. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    Geez, more leaks here than a Urological Ward! ;)

  133. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    MTU -

    Very good point. He got 50 games for failing a test. Did he get anything for the fake website???

  134. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Oh, and he got to play again for a new team for more money. Maybe not as much money as if he hadn’t been caught, but still, a pretty penny.

  135. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Dave-

    “No chance he gets banned for life wihtout a huge legal battle and I don’t think MLB wants that.”

    I know they don’t. It could drag on for quite some time that way.

    A-Rod is not a pauper. He can afford lawyers as good or better than MLB’s, and he can afford to pay them for as long as it takes.

    Bad way to go. Work out a deal.

  136. eb03 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    why would Selig care about the Brewers.. because he used to own them??? his foremost priority is helping/protecting the red sox, it’s human nature.

  137. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    A-Rod would have to be even nuttier than some folks think to walk away from over 100 Million dollars w/o a fight.

  138. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue says:
    July 23, 2013 at 6:29 pm
    And about Selig protecting his Brewers. The information, which was made public, came from Bosch. Once that information became public, there was little Selig could do to “protect” it. It dealt with players buying PEDs, not players being drug-tested by MLB.

    ——————

    So Bud probably just made sure the chain of command for his failed was compromised?

  139. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Trish, Selig is a “micro brewer”, limited production, bland, looks like Alfred E.Newman and only marginally acceptable!

    Flag him! ;)

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    “So Bud probably just made sure the chain of command for his failed was compromised?”

    ??

  141. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Doreen-

    People just want the “A-rod” problem solved. I can understand their POV.

    But I can also put myself in A-Rod’s position. There is a ton of money at stake and other things as well.

    This has all the makings of a very messy divorce if it isn’t handled right.

    That is good for no one.

    ;)

  142. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    eb03, his daughter is the tit u lar head of the team? ;)

  143. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    MTU -

    I agree 100%.

    Nothing is black and white, and issues and PEOPLE are complex.

    Plus no one in this mess has clean hands, including the players who never used who turned their backs on it, as well (but, in fairness, these are teammates and friends, people they know and spend a great deal of time with and depend upon – not so easy when it’s personal).

  144. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    One thing I am sure of and that is ARod knows a lot more than MLB does. I am confident that he knows of multiple MLB users & multiple places to obtain anything. He is keenly aware of everything about baseball to the nth degree & I trust the same with supplements, and any other enhancements including PEDs. Anything is available in the Dominican Republic w/o a prescription.

    ARod has been around a lot of high performers and some are known PEDs people including the cycllist, Texas Rangers, & many many others. I am sure he knew what Colon was doing. Tiger?, Canseco, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, & Clemens. ARod is so inquisitive and brilliant too even though he appears pretty dumb at times.

  145. JobaTipsHisCap July 23rd, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    did they arrest arod already?

  146. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    MTU -

    Also, the (second) ARod contract was born of greed on both sides.

  147. Brian July 23rd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    Braun lost what. under $4mil for the rest of this season and can still get the rest of over $100mil on that contract even with this ban. He cut his losses and maybe did the smart thing, financially.

    With Rodriquez and a lifetime ban, what would he have to lose by fighting it tooth and nail? He would lose ALL of his $100mil or so remaining contract if he just accepted that like Braun accepted his ban.

    I don’t see him being like Pete Rose and basically signing away his life w/o a fight.

  148. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue says:
    July 23, 2013 at 6:38 pm
    “So Bud probably just made sure the chain of command for his failed was compromised?
    ??

    ————–

    You said Bud couldn’t protect him from Biogenesis.

    Based on your conspiracy theories I’m guessing Bud made sure Braun’s failed test would be able to be overturned though.

  149. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    Doreen-

    Look at how hard Clemens fought ?

    Many thought he was stone cold guilty.

    A-Rod could do the same. he could put up one hell of a fight if he wants to.

    And with what might be involved I would no less.

    That’s why I say the best course is to negotiate and work out a deal.

    if A-Rod can medically retire so much the better.

    It is not likely to happen in an instant though.

    Too many parties and too much moolah involved.

    Absolutely the only way to go IMHO. Work it out.

  150. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    MTU -

    The ultimate plea bargain. ;)

  151. NYY_Girl_Penny July 23rd, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    People forget about the positive that we don’t have to see this year..

    Tex underperforming and lost at the plate
    Granderson Striking out 200 times to hit 40 HR with over 600AB batting .230
    Swisher in Cleveland with a whopping .242 .346 .399 .745 LOL
    Arod and listening to his inner thoughts telling him he’s still on PEDs

    SAdly we have to still see Joe Girardi .. I sure hope that changes end of this year !!!

  152. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    edit: expect no less. sorry

  153. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Given what I think ARod knows he could truly have MLB over a barrel too. Naming names & processes that keep people from being outed.

    I joked a few days ago about an all PEDs xMLB new league that is made up of stars outed or wanting to juice & they could literally compete with MLB given the right money to back things up. Legal PEDs that is, like HGH. Trump & others might jump in. It could get truly interesting.

  154. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Doreen-

    Yup. But that way everybody has some skin in the game.

    Nobody gets to go hope completely happy and the thing is not dragged thru the mud forever.

    ;)

  155. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    Ray-

    With A-rod’s resources I can hardly imagine him letting himself be intimidated.

    He can Lawyer-up better than MLB.

    ;)

  156. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    I joked a few days ago about an all PEDs xMLB new league that is made up of stars outed or wanting to juice

    ————–

    I’d watch. lol

  157. UnKnown July 23rd, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Alex Jones in envious of Lohud today.

    This sums up the last few threads, thankfully their is a game starting soon. Good Lord.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

  158. Doreen July 23rd, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Where is the game tonight? What channel?

  159. austinmac July 23rd, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    MTU,

    Lawyering up– are there better words in the English language? :)

  160. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    I think a lot of us would watch. I mean if the WWE can make money & you know they are all on the juice & its fixed but people still watch. It would make a mockery but it they presented it right with only prescribed drugs that are not illegal then it could work. None of this secret stuff of who is using & who isn’t or who might be.

  161. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 23rd, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    “Based on your conspiracy theories I’m guessing Bud made sure Braun’s failed test would be able to be overturned though”

    Once things become public, there is a totally different cast on them. You realize of course that Bud is under Congress’s microscope and therefore has to give an appearance of total impropriety when it comes to matters of PEDs. MLB did the right thing – whether it was from a sense of integrity or for public consumption – when they imposed the original ban on Braun, the one that was eventually overturned by the arbitrator.

    What happens behind the scenes, far away from the watchful eye of Congress, is another matter entirely.

  162. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Stop those leaks and if necessary take a pee bargain!

    Later! Until then hold your water for heaven’s sake! ;)

  163. MTU July 23rd, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Mac-

    not FWYS.

    ;)

  164. comnsnse July 23rd, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Oh Trish, you’ve finally done it, “far from the eyes of Congress”…..what isn’t these days?

    Summed up another conspiracy theory perfectly except…..why do we pay them to do nothing?,)

  165. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    You realize of course that Bud is under Congress’s microscope and therefore has to give an appearance of total impropriety when it comes to matters of PEDs.

    ————

    1. I’m assuming you meant propriety?

    2. If so worried about not showing impropriety, then he’s going to risk getting found out warning Boston? Ok.

  166. joeman July 23rd, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reports that Alex Rodriguez has no intention of negotiating a settlement with Major League Baseball and would appeal any potential suspension.
    A report earlier Tuesday from CBS Evening News’ Jim Axelrod said that A-Rod is looking to cut a deal with MLB, but Nightengale is hearing otherwise. Axelrod’s report says that the third baseman could be looking at a possible lifetime ban from MLB. CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman reported Monday that A-Rod’s suspension is expected to be announced within the next 2-3 weeks

  167. joeman July 23rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    over/under on HRS allowed by PH tonight

  168. DAM23 July 23rd, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    4

  169. RayVT July 23rd, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    It isn’t good for Baseball to have anyone banned or found guilty. Thus for many years that is the way it played out. Congress stepped in after BALCO & the 3 stooges (Mark, Sammy & Barry)& the Mitchell Report was done to make sure there wasn’t a big time PEDs thing in Baseball.

    MLB wanted it to end there. Then Clemens got outted. Others were too. It isn’t like this helps MLB so why would they want it.

    Who knows how many test were truly failed test & the results were ignored or lost.

    But once they were outted by the media like ARod & Braun then MLB has to appear to be angry & I am sure they are. Afterall, MLB owners are a group of grumpy old men & they move pieces to make money & enjoy their assets.

  170. BIG AL July 23rd, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    MTU -

    Earlier in the day someone asked, why would a player accept a 50 game suspension, if they were not guilty.

    After giving it some thought, I believe there may be some players caught up in the Bosch web, that may indeed be not guilty, but, MLB told them they had enough to ban them for 100 – 150 games unless they agreed to a 50 game ban. How is this different from the numerous defendents facing long jail time, say 25 years behind bars, pleading guilty, and serving 3-5 years behind bars.

    Those that have the power to take away your career, and eagerly willing to wield that big stick, can do as they please, and state it’s for the good of the game. They can turn to Congress and say, “See we’re cleaning up our game”.

    Selig has a great dislike for A-Rod, so anything that sleez ball says or does, I look at very closely, and believe very little he says. He will not allow Mark Cuban to own a MLB team, why does he have that right, and or power, since Mark Cuban is an honest business man, and not a criminal. He plays favorites, and helps his friends in the game get ahead, while holding others back. MLB will be much better when Selig is no longer.

  171. champ809 July 23rd, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Big Al

    No player would accept a 50 game ban, without pay losing millions and have their name tarnished for life if they weren’t guilty and also knew they were most likely going to lose a challenge as well.

    These guys are guilty, got caught and will pay for it period.

    MLB is out to make ARod the poster boy because he’s a serial steriods cheat and lied to them in their faces on numerous occasions when he was caught and just simply found a new source to continue to cheat the system showing not an iota of contrition for his acts.

    He lied in his admission when he said he only used in Texas. At the time he did his press conference he was getting his stuff from Dr. Galea. When MLB confronted him on that he lied and said he had no dealings with Dr. Galea and switched his source to BioGenesis and Bosch. When he got caught he attempted to but the evidence and most likely destroy it.

    He exhibits a pattern of almost a pathological person who may actually need help


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