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Postgame notes: “Been the story for the last little while”

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Andy Pettitte, Joe Girardi

At this point, Andy Pettitte has no use for personal victories. He pitched pretty well tonight, and he seemed perfectly indifferent to that. He knew it was true, but he made a couple of mistakes to A.J. Pierzynski, and that was enough to eclipse everything else.

“I just look at it, if Shawn (Kelley) didn’t come in tonight and get those outs for me right there (in the seventh), it would have been another four runs and we’d be saying, ‘You threw the ball horrible,’” Pettitte said. “We want to win. I want to win. At this stage of my (career), I’m not looking to be positive about (saying) I felt good with my stuff tonight, because I’ve been feeling good with it.”

The Yankees clubhouse felt legitimately alive last night. The offense had actually fought back against an awfully good pitcher, and they’d pulled a win out of a sure defeat. But there was no such rally tonight. The Yankees got one run because of an error, and otherwise went quietly.

It’s not the sort of thing Pettitte is used to.

“I haven’t had it a whole lot with the Yankees,” Pettitte said. “But I went through it with the Astros. You don’t worry about it. I’m telling you, I ain’t taking the mound worrying about whether we’re going to score runs or not. Our guys are grinding, and that’s all you can do. Our team, this is what we have. We’re going out there and battling and competing and I love it. I love the approach the guys are taking. I don’t think anybody’s got their head down. I think everybody’s giving a great effort. We’ve just got to keep doing that, and hopefully we can figure out a way to turn this thing around.”

Those Astros teams that Pettitte was with won 92 games, then 89 games, then 82 games. All three finished second, and two of the three went to the playoffs. It wasn’t winning like Pettitte came to know in New York, but at least those Houston teams scored more runs than they allowed. The Yankees aren’t doing that this season.

Just tonight their first two batters singled, each stole a base, and each went stranded.

“I wouldn’t say there’s any pressure; we deal with this every day,” Brett Gardner said. “It’s a little frustrating, but once the inning is over, we go out there and play defense then try and come back in the second and score. You know you have eight more shots at it. We just weren’t able to get anything going tonight. That’s kind of been the story for the last little while.”

Vernon Wells• Before tonight’s Cubs game in Phoenix, Alfonso Soriano told reporters that he is willing to accept a trade to the Yankees. “I have a list,” Soriano said. “The Yankees are on the list.”

• Why do the Yankees need an all-or-nothing guy like Soriano? Well, they’ve gone six straight games without a home run, their longest streak since 1996. Right-handed hitters have one home run in the Yankees past 55 games. Jayson Nix is their only righty to go deep since May 23. May 23!

• Pettitte went six-plus innings, allowing two runs. Both runs were driven in by Pierzynski, a lefty who actually has a .393 career average against Pettitte in 28 career at-bats. That’s the third highest average against Pettitte for active players with at least 25 at-bats against him.

• Pettitte on the Pierzynski homer: “I feel like if I go out there in the (sixth) and put up a zero instead of giving up the lead right there, we might score that next inning. It just puts a little bit more pressure on the other guy pitching out there. It’s just extremely frustration, especially how the lefty, Pierzynski, could do that. He’s a good hitter, but you feel like you should be able to handle him a little better.”

• Matt Garza’s 7.1 innings without an earned run was the longest debut start by a Texas pitcher without an earned run since John Burkett in 1996. Garza, who was added on Monday, got a standing ovation as he left the mound in the eighth. “You’ve got to give him credit,” Gardner said. “He pounded the strike zone. He doesn’t waste many pitches. He gets ahead 0-2, 1-2 and doesn’t try to pitch around guys. He comes right after you.”

Shawn Kelley, David Murphy• The Yankees had a handful of scoring opportunities, and in a low-scoring game like this, a handful of opportunities might be enough if a team takes advantage. The first inning really stands out. “We have to take advantage of situations when we have runners on, because it’s not an offense that explodes for big innings,” Girardi said. “We have to take advantage every time. You get first and second, nobody out, first and third, one out, we’re not able to capitalize. But it happens.”

• Did there still seem to be a chance in the ninth, maybe another dramatic rally? “We had a shot, and the guy that hit the big triple off Nathan comes up with a runner on,” Girardi said. “We’ve got an opportunity maybe to tie the game if Nuney can get a hit or hit one in the seats. It didn’t happen.”

• Shawn Kelley allowed a solo home run in the eighth. It was his first earned run since June 15 and only his second since May 30. … Kelley also stranded two inherited runners in the seventh. He’s stranded 22 of 24 inherited runners this season.

• Derek Jeter came through his pregame work with no problem. “Pretty good,” Girardi said. “He’ll increase a little bit tomorrow, see how he does.”

• Final word goes to Pettitte: “I feel good. I can’t take nothing from it. When you lose you can’t take nothing from it. It’s a loss. We need wins. And it’s frustrating.”

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83 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Been the story for the last little while””

  1. fantasygame101 July 25th, 2013 at 12:36 am

    not news to me. go on to next game.

  2. Nick in SF July 25th, 2013 at 12:39 am

    “Why do the Yankees need an all-or-nothing guy like Soriano?”

    ‘Cos nothing-or-nothing isn’t working out so well right now. :cry:

  3. 4 NYY July 25th, 2013 at 12:46 am

    Pettitte still classy as ever !

  4. Patrick July 25th, 2013 at 1:22 am

    It stinks that Pettitte is so down on himself. He pitched fine, our offense is just horrible.

  5. Nick in SF July 25th, 2013 at 1:30 am

    Maybe some reinforcements before Pettitte’s next start?

  6. 4 NYY July 25th, 2013 at 2:31 am

    Sorry to say it’ll be more of the same reinforcements like it’s been all year.

    Even Soriano won’t help much, IMO. He’ll be striking out in big spots and we won’t have gained a thing by acquiring him. ( if we do )

    Time to plan for future, IMO. PERIOD

  7. Ed Whitson July 25th, 2013 at 2:38 am

    If you think Soriano is the answer your not asking the right question.

  8. yankeepankee July 25th, 2013 at 3:08 am

    Trade Hughes to the Braves for prospects.
    Tim Hudson out with broken ankle.

  9. jacksquat July 25th, 2013 at 3:44 am

    d Whitson July 25th, 2013 at 2:38 am
    If you think Soriano is the answer your not asking the right question.

    No one player will be the answer. They need upgrades to at least a few spots in the lineup.

    Hal is probably counting on Jeter and Granderson plus maybe something cheap like Soriano to take them to the postseason. Of course we know he doesn’t want Arod to be a part of that… I doubt that will be enough.

    There are only two players in this lineup who should be every day players, Cano and Gardner. You can live with Ichiro if the rest of the lineup is strong. It’s pathetic. I fell asleep in the middle of this game (7:30pm) and don’t regret it.

    I can’t remember a team this sad since… early 80′s?

  10. jacksquat July 25th, 2013 at 3:45 am

    With insurance money paying for Arod and Teixeira, probably Jeter and possibly others, I wonder what the real payroll number is…?

  11. JimK July 25th, 2013 at 5:49 am

    Well, it’s the same all song The Yankee pitcher throws a decent game and the results are another loss. And the sad truth is that the Yankees are actually playing up to their capabilities, you cannot win when your basic lineup consists almost entirely of the cast for “Eight Men, Out,” with ARod leading the list as a totally unsympathetic version of “Shoeless Joe.”
    On top of this the Yankees have their own versions of “Glory Days” in CC and Pettitte, with Ichiro a close second. Soriano might help, but would the Yankees have to give up in order to get him; if it is Hughes and Chamberlain it satisfies the unload Hughes crowd, but although Hughes is inconsistent right now he is probably their 3rd best pitcher. Does Phelps fill those shoes; will Pineda return this year and will he be Pineda or a Pinata.
    For those who think of Adams as the answer at 3rd, his arm is not suited for that position and much like Lillibridge he has a tendency to play Ole at 3rd. The Yankees may obtain a split today, but they have not won a series since Baltimore and their immediate prospects for turning this around are dismal at best. At this point when opposing teams see the schedule they cannot help but view the Yankees in the same light as the Royals, Astros, or Twins; their only advantage is the possibility of being taken too lightly.
    Wish I had something more positive to say, but the Yankees demise has been a “Long time coming,” and by most accounts here based on their farm system they will be a “long time gone.”
    But I will probably watch their game today and hope for the best; and pray for an unexpected and quite unrealistic turnaround.
    Just one final thought: this team has been accused of not making the pitcher work, but that is hard to do when the opposing pitcher has no fear of just throwing strikes. We may just have entered the “egregious Eduardo” era.

  12. blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:13 am

    The braves def need a starter now with Hudson out for the season.

    Btw I think y’all are way off for the wrestling comp for Arod……

    It’s gotta be the total package http://www.wwe.com/superstars/lex-luger

  13. blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:34 am

    Cashman has to call the braves and see what they’d offer for Hughes right?

  14. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 7:35 am

    What would the ream’s record have to be to climb over rather teams ahead of it? Too darn good to expect it in my view.

  15. MG July 25th, 2013 at 7:38 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:34 am
    Cashman has to call the braves and see what they’d offer for Hughes right?
    —————-
    blake, that seems like a good spot for him-the Braves are in contention and need someone badly, right?

  16. MG July 25th, 2013 at 7:39 am

    So who is the anonymous Yankees quoted in the DN story about the players being fed up with Arod?

    Is it (1) Derek Jeter (2) Derek Jeter or (3) Derek Jeter? :)

    The quotes just sound like something Jete would say…

  17. blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:42 am

    “blake, that seems like a good spot for him-the Braves are in contention and need someone badly, right?”

    Well Beachy is almost back but he’s coming off TJS so who knows what he will be short term …. They pretty much have nobody with postseason experience now…..Hughes would be a good fit…..not sure what they’d give…..I doubt they’d give much off the big league roster but might put a decent price in prospects

  18. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 7:44 am

    Soriano isn’t going to help much….he won’t see to many fastballs in the AL

  19. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Cashman is too busy working on one deal to multi task. Plus, he has to fight with AROD over his doctor. Do we really believe he will do anything smart in the next week?

  20. blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Jose Peraza is an interesting name from the braves….19 year old SS with high upside…..they have some pitching prospects as well that would be interesting. I just don’t think you’re getting Gattis or anybody like that

  21. blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    I have no idea what Arod was thinking with this latest stunt…..the dr. (gross) as basically admitted he only did it to get his name in the papers…..Alex is either desperate or just plain not very smart

  22. PacoDooley July 25th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:49 am
    I have no idea what Arod was thinking with this latest stunt…..the dr. (gross) as basically admitted he only did it to get his name in the papers…..Alex is either desperate or just plain not very smart
    ———————–

    His statement that he did this for his 5 minutes of fame was pretty damning. If you are in A-Rod’s camp, you had to cringe at those words. He also didn’t sound especially professional – a bit too ad hoc and conversational for a guy that has been brought in to provide a real opinion about a medical issue.

  23. PacoDooley July 25th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Hughes to Atlanta makes sense to me – actually, even Phelps to Atlanta could work. The team needs to look at selling – they are dropping like a lead weight and it is becoming obvious that they cannot even continue to tread water.

  24. PacoDooley July 25th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    One other quick thought while PEDs dominate – what will Braun be if he really does have to stop using?

    People will claim that these guys are still great without PEDs, but I see Melky Cabrera as the poster boy for what PEDs can do. He was a near MVP quality player in SF and was playing well above his career norm (I assume he was also using in KC when he ‘blossomed’). If you ignore his SF and KC numbers, his numbers this year are pretty close to his career averages (though his power is even lower now). When someone tries to actually argue that PEDs don’t work, they need to look at Melky (and most of the MVPs from the 90′s to the 00′s).

  25. pat July 25th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Derek understands NY enough to know an anonymous source in a story like that has increased the speed on the circus carousel so I don’t think it was Derek.

    Person should hae put heir name on it. Cashman would have given them a raise. :wink:

  26. MG July 25th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 7:49 am
    I have no idea what Arod was thinking with this latest stunt…..the dr. (gross) as basically admitted he only did it to get his name in the papers…..Alex is either desperate or just plain not very smart
    ——————
    Gross used very poor judgment in going public with this-the guy is the head of orthopedics at Hackensack Medical Center, this publicity is not going to help him in the least.

    As for Arod, I think he is both desperate and stupid.

    He’s just a child, it shows in the way he conducts himself and does things like sending baseballs into the stands to get a phone number in the middle of a playoff game.

    At the same time, unless the Yankees have a specific reason not to play him in order to eliminate his contract, they should put him out there every day at 3rd base, who gives a crap if he breaks down on the field at this point in time.

  27. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Hughes to atlanta for Peraza and one of their pitching prospects would be a good trade for the Yankees to make. Peraza is very young but some think his upside is higher than Simmons’s ……he could move fast once he matures.

  28. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    How old is this Dr. Gross? I wonder if he’s just fresh out of school or something? Just doesn’t seem like something an experienced doc would agree to……there is nothing wrong with getting your name in the papers when you’re running a business….but I don’t see how being associated with Arod (especially this way) is good PR

  29. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    “One other quick thought while PEDs dominate – what will Braun be if he really does have to stop using?”

    he’s prime aged and I think he really is a great talent so unless he’s become like mentally dependent on them (like I think Arod may have become) then I’d expect him to still be pretty good……

  30. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    I doubt that was Jeter than would make those comments….he’s too smart to say anything that’s not vanilla ice cream. It was probably one of the assortment of 3B we have who don’t want him coming back and sending them back to the scrap heap.

  31. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:08 am

    MG,

    that was funny about Arodocus last night……I really could see him doing a reality show one day no joke…….

  32. tbone1570 July 25th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    How old is this Dr. Gross? I wonder if he’s just fresh out of school or something? Just doesn’t seem like something an experienced doc would agree to……there is nothing wrong with getting your name in the papers when you’re running a business….but I don’t see how being associated with Arod (especially this way) is good PR

    ****************************************
    Dr. Gross is well over 50years old and as head of orthopedics @ Hackensack University Medical Center , he does not need “free” publicity.

  33. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    ok I have really broken Randys’ rule…..I guess I’m the only one who is super hyped up on coffee right now…..work calls

  34. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    “Dr. Gross is well over 50years old and as head of orthopedics @ Hackensack University Medical Center , he does not need “free” publicity.”

    I see….then he’s kinda silly and unprofessional for questioning another doctor’s diagnosis on something that doesn’t even show up on an MRI sometimes……then admitting he only did it for his “15 minutes of fame”

  35. sunny615 July 25th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    S U C K
    miserable team. I hope no one goes to any home games, purchases any merchandise, or cancels their YES subscriptions. maybe that will get Hal to wake the F up and do something – idiot.

  36. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:00 am
    Hughes to atlanta for Peraza and one of their pitching prospects would be a good trade for the Yankees to make. Peraza is very young but some think his upside is higher than Simmons’s ……he could move fast once he matures
    ———————————————-
    don’t know how much the Braves need SPing…Beachy is going to fill in for Hudson Mahon is coming back in a week and the have Alex Wood ML ready…

  37. MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:08 am
    MG,

    that was funny about Arodocus last night……I really could see him doing a reality show one day no joke…….
    —————–
    blake, thanks, it’s good that some of us can have a sense of humor about this, what else is there to do right now?

    Besides, I really want to see Arod, in a stadium full of booing fans with the sound pouring down on the field, rip off his jersey and yell, ‘I AM ARODACUS!’

  38. tbone1570 July 25th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    …then he’s kinda silly and unprofessional for questioning another doctor’s diagnosis on something that doesn’t even show up on an MRI sometimes……then admitting he only did it for his “15 minutes of fame”

    ********************************

    I agree, very odd for a professional who is (or should be) concerned about his reputation would go on the media circuit and talk about this when he’s doing it “for fun” and “15 minutes of fame”.

  39. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    I will be shocked if the Yankees trade Hughes. They will still be only behind four teams and five for the second wild card. They will give up a young player for Soriano instead. Stupid. Utterly stupid.

    This team does only put two starters on a good team on the field every night. They can’t win. That is the sad truth. Pick a team, virtually any team, who has a lineup this bad? Probably no team in baseball.

    Have you noticed it is virtually daily reported the team doing or not doing something for the first time since . . .

  40. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Braves SPing
    looks like they don’t need Hughes

    Rotation
    1. T. Hudson
    2. M. Minor
    3. J. Teheran
    4. K. Medlen
    5. B. Beachy
    6. P. Maholm
    7. A Wood

  41. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    “don’t know how much the Braves need SPing…Beachy is going to fill in for Hudson Mahon is coming back in a week and the have Alex Wood ML ready…”

    beachy is fresh off TJS…..no way to predict how he will do. Guys usually aren’t right until the following season with that.

  42. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:23 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:20 am
    “don’t know how much the Braves need SPing…Beachy is going to fill in for Hudson Mahon is coming back in a week and the have Alex Wood ML ready…”

    beachy is fresh off TJS…..no way to predict how he will do. Guys usually aren’t right until the following season with that.

    ———————————–
    true but he’s pitching well in rehab…they still have a lot of SPers and also have some good ones in the minors..though Hudson was a hit for them

  43. jacksquat July 25th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:16 am
    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:08 am
    MG,

    that was funny about Arodocus last night……I really could see him doing a reality show one day no joke…….
    —————–
    blake, thanks, it’s good that some of us can have a sense of humor about this, what else is there to do right now?

    Besides, I really want to see Arod, in a stadium full of booing fans with the sound pouring down on the field, rip off his jersey and yell, ‘I AM ARODACUS!’

    Aleximus

    “ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!”

  44. MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    I guess Joeman missed the headlines about Hudson’s ankle fracture and upcoming surgery, the rest of that staff isn’t exactly headline material with tons of playoff experience.

    If I am the Yankees and can get a good position playing prospect for Hughes I move him today-they have depth in the rotation both for this year and next.

    We’ll just have to wait and see what happens-Cashman may have to hire an assistant to help him deal with the Arod stuff-I wonder if George Costanza is still hiding under that desk at Yankee Stadium…

  45. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:26 am
    I guess Joeman missed the headlines about Hudson’s ankle fracture and upcoming surgery, the rest of that staff isn’t exactly headline material with tons of playoff experience.

    If I am the Yankees and can get a good position playing prospect for Hughes I move him today-they have depth in the rotation both for this year and next.

    We’ll just have to wait and see what happens-Cashman may have to hire an assistant to help him deal with the Arod stuff-I wonder if George Costanza is still hiding under that desk at Yankee Stadium…
    ————————–
    did I really look above

  46. MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    ————————–
    did I really look above
    —————–
    you listed Hudson as their #1 starter, what else would anyone think?

  47. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    you the one the other day that questioned me about a source about the Soriano trade being not done yet…if not sorry

  48. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:23 am
    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:20 am
    “don’t know how much the Braves need SPing…Beachy is going to fill in for Hudson Mahon is coming back in a week and the have Alex Wood ML ready…”

    beachy is fresh off TJS…..no way to predict how he will do. Guys usually aren’t right until the following season with that.

    ———————————–
    true but he’s pitching well in rehab…they still have a lot of SPers and also have some good ones in the minors..though Hudson was a hit for them

    ————————-
    right here

  49. MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:30 am
    you the one the other day that questioned me about a source about the Soriano trade being not done yet…if not sorry
    ————-
    not me

  50. PacoDooley July 25th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:02 am
    How old is this Dr. Gross? I wonder if he’s just fresh out of school or something? Just doesn’t seem like something an experienced doc would agree to……there is nothing wrong with getting your name in the papers when you’re running a business….but I don’t see how being associated with Arod (especially this way) is good PR
    ———————–

    Based on his photo at the school website, I would guess 60. Plus, he is apparently the head of that section, so he is presumably experienced. A bad idea on his part to be the voice for A-Rod on this, and even dumber for A-Rod to decide that this was a good idea.

    He seems to want to sway public opinion in his direction through these stunts, but he just keeps digging himself a deeper hole. I was starting to like Alex at some point, when he seemed like a good leader and a hard worker, now I really just want him to go away.

  51. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    MG July 25th, 2013 at 8:33 am
    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:30 am
    you the one the other day that questioned me about a source about the Soriano trade being not done yet…if not sorry
    ————-
    not me

    —————————
    K

  52. PacoDooley July 25th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:19 am
    I will be shocked if the Yankees trade Hughes. They will still be only behind four teams and five for the second wild card. They will give up a young player for Soriano instead. Stupid. Utterly stupid.
    ———————-

    But they have been looking terrible for a long enough stretch that you have to start to think that they are playing up to their rather low potential at this point…

  53. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    joeman,
    you know Hudson just broke his ankle last night right?

  54. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    besides Cano,Gardner and Suzuki what other position players can start on any other ML team ?

  55. pat July 25th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    ” ……now I really just want him to go away”

    Enough to write him a $90M check? Perhaps that’s the end game he’s going for.

  56. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:37 am
    joeman,
    you know Hudson just broke his ankle last night right?

    ——————————–
    yes I did as stated above..see I knew you guys don’t read my sh-t

  57. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Paco,

    I agree it is what they should do, but they never seem to make the moves that seem obvious. Hal will add Soriano and act as of he is doing his part to keep the team competitive.

  58. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:23 am
    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:20 am
    “don’t know how much the Braves need SPing…Beachy is going to fill in for Hudson Mahon is coming back in a week and the have Alex Wood ML ready…”

    beachy is fresh off TJS…..no way to predict how he will do. Guys usually aren’t right until the following season with that.

    ———————————–
    true but he’s pitching well in rehab…they still have a lot of SPers and also have some good ones in the minors..though Hudson was a hit for them

    ————————-
    right here

  59. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Hughes has pitched well his last few outings…..his era is headed towards where it’ll end up most likely…..somewhere between 3.9 and 4.2…..it’s down to 4.33 now and his peripherals are pretty much what they always are. He’s a good pitcher….I know he frustrates Yankee fans but he’s a solid big league starter who’s numbers would look a lot better if he played in another park in another division……

    If the Yankees still think they are in it then they probably can’t trade Hughes given how CC is pitching….Pineda is no sure thing coming back. They do have Phelps that could step in but they really have to keep that rotation strong and deep if they want to make the playoffs……of course I think they should sell so I’d trade him

  60. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Hughes has a 3.02 ERA on the road this year…..Yankee Stadium and terrible run support has killed him.

  61. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Blake-

    I would say that probably spells the end of Hudson’s career. He’s not a youngster.

    That was nasty. I’d bet there was ligament damage as well.

    Very unfortunate. I bet Eric Young feels terrible.

    Hope he makes it back.

  62. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Joeman, Ichiro with his sub .700 OPS is a very questionable starter on a good team. Soon we will have him, Wells and Soriano ready to be the OF and DH next year. Can’t wait.

  63. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    “yes I did as stated above..see I knew you guys don’t read my sh-t”

    you listed him as their #1 starter and then said …..see the Braves don’t need Hughes?

    The Braves now have 0 starters with playoff experience…..they have some good young arms but none of them have pitched in the postseason really. Hughes would help them and if he pitched well could potentially start in game 1 or 2 of a playoffs series for them.

  64. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    That was an very ugly injury last night. Poor Hudson. His career may be over.

  65. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Blake-

    Hughes should be traded IMO.

    With Garza gone his value to the right Team has risen.

    The Hudson thing might also add some competition for his services.

  66. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Joeman, Ichiro with his sub .700 OPS is a very questionable starter on a good team. Soon we will have him, Wells and Soriano ready to be the OF and DH next year. Can’t wait.
    ———————————————
    NYY OF and DH next year….can’t wait

    Gardner
    Wells
    Soriano (if here)
    Ichiro

  67. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    MTU,

    maybe…..it probably depends on what Hudson wants to do. He’s in good shape and he’s not a power guy anymore…..and the injury was to his land foot and not his push foot so he might could come back if he wanted to and if he wanted to do the rehab. It’s probably a similar injury to what Jeter had……and they are about the same age. Should be easier for a pitcher to come back if he is motivated……he may not want to go out like that.

  68. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Mac-

    What a shame. Reminded me of when Lawrence Taylor ended Joe Thiesman’s career.

    :(

  69. NYYROC July 25th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Hughes last 5 starts: 2.53 ERA, .97 WHIP. Also has 9 games this year where he gave up 3 ER or less and has 0 wins in those 9 games. He has his share of clunkers but he is better than frustrated fans think. A team with a bigger park could get a good deal getting him for stretch run.

  70. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:45 am
    “yes I did as stated above..see I knew you guys don’t read my sh-t”

    you listed him as their #1 starter and then said …..see the Braves don’t need Hughes?

    The Braves now have 0 starters with playoff experience…..they have some good young arms but none of them have pitched in the postseason really. Hughes would help them and if he pitched well could potentially start in game 1 or 2 of a playoffs series for them.

    ————————–
    just listed who their top 7 SPers were..before Hudson injury..and stated two post down that the Hudson injury was a big hit..

  71. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    I can’t wait to read the reporting on whether AROD waves or doesn’t as he exits the training facility.

    Can Kuroda hold the Rangers to negative runs today? Holland is pretty good and a lefty. It will very likely be ugly.

    What record would it take for the team to sell some assets? Lose 4 of 5, 5 of 6, anything?

  72. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Blake-

    Much worse than Jeter’s.

    If you saw it on replay you’d probably turn away.

    His ankle was at almost a 90 degree angle.

    Jeter had no ligament damage as far as I know.

    Not good for Hudson I’m afraid.

  73. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    you know the solution to those type injuries at 1B would be to just adapt what they do in softball and add the additional base to the right of the actual base that runners could run to……after the play you just go back to using the regular base……would essentially eliminate those type things from happening…..or greatly reduce the frequency of it.

  74. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    MTU,

    I saw the replay but Jeter’s was bad too…..he had ligament damage as well I believe. It’s a break and bones heal so I think he could come back if he wanted……just depends on how bad he wants to and if he wants to do the rehab or not….

  75. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    MTU,

    I too thought of Theisman. It was a turn away incident.

    Ankle injuries are not good for 38 year olds. Wait. Never mind.

  76. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Blake-

    Sure. anything reasonable they could do to help.

    That was just awful.

  77. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Blake,

    I once went to a kids baseball tournament that had those double bases. Why not?

  78. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Blake-

    I hope he makes it back if wants to.

    At his age it definitely won’t be easy.

    Not sure he’d ever be the same.

    I like Hudson. Seems like a heck of a nice guy. Wish him the best regardless of where this leads him.

  79. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    New one ——->

  80. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Most of you guys are drawing conclusions way too quickly. Lets see how it turns out. If Arod doesn’t have a quad strain, then who looks bad here?

    Anyway, I am looking forward to what looks like an inevitable lawsuit. It will be an interesting daily look at the underside of the business of baseball.

  81. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    “What record would it take for the team to sell some assets? Lose 4 of 5, 5 of 6, anything?”

    never surrender! we owe it to our fan base to find the best of the old 1 year rentals available!

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