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Postgame notes: “I knew what we had from the beginning”

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There was a game today? It was easy to overlook in all of the Alex Rodriguez drama and Alfonso Soriano trade talk, but the Yankees actually managed to escape with a series split here in Texas. I’m going to give just a basic version of today’s postgame notes, because obviously there’s a lot going on.

Last I heard on the Soriano deal was that it’s close but “not done yet.” I’ll update with more as it happens. For now, a few notes from today’s game.

• Hiroki Kuroda actually said he pitched poorly. “I don’t think I had any particular pitch that was working well,” he said. “From the get-go, I didn’t have a good outing, but I was able to get big outs and put up a decent outing.” His teammates, of course, said otherwise. “If it’s not perfect, he won’t think it’s good,” Austin Romine said. “I knew what we had from the beginning of the game.”

• Kuroda has a 0.69 ERA in four starts this month. “He’s pitched well enough to have 14, 15 wins, and he doesn’t have them,” Joe Girardi said. “And that’s probably why he’s flying under the radar.”

• Romine caught the shutout, and also had his first three-hit game. It included two doubles. He’s actually been hitting quite a bit better lately. “Me and K-Long got in the cage one day and I said, something’s not working,” Romine said. “He goes, ‘I don’t think it’s physical, it’s mental. Let’s start trying to go the other way.’ So we spent a whole day at home trying to hit the ball the other way. It helped me see the ball a little bit better, swing at better pitches, and just getting good wood on the ball.”

• The Yankees won two of four here in Texas, and in each win, Brent Lillibridge had the go-ahead hit. “He’s played well,” Girardi said. “You know, when I think of Lillibridge, I think of the catches he made that one day in right field for the White Sox. I still haven’t forgotten those. He’s a versatile player. He’s grinding out at-bats and he’s gotten some big RBIs.”

• Mariano Rivera was presented with boots and a cowboy hat during a pregame ceremony. Girardi said he wanted Rivera to wear the boots on the flight home. Rivera said he might wear the hat later this season. “I might wear it one of these days, show up at Yankee Stadium with it,” he said.

• Derek Jeter said he felt fine after running the bases today, and Girardi seemed optimistic as well. “Good reports,” Girardi said. “I watched him. He’ll run again tomorrow, he’ll see the doctor and then we’ll go from there.”

• Could he play Saturday? “I’m not throwing anything out there,” Girardi said. “I’m not dismissing anything, either.”

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244 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I knew what we had from the beginning””

  1. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    EndlessMike July 25th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
    Would have nice to get one of those infielders the Cubs have stockpiled.
    ========================================

    Yes it would have….but we’d have to likely part with one of our ‘comparable prospects’…..and the prospect huggers would go ballistic…

    I’m pretty sure Cashman is got quite a few proposals on his desk….mostly NOT in our favor…I like to think he’s trying !!!

    —-repost

  2. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    There must be talks with the braves about hughes and joba. They need both.

  3. cs in la July 25th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Mariano is going to need a warehouse and a forklift for all of those gifts. It’ll be like “Raiders of the Lost Ark”….

  4. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Ac-

    There a number of Teams that could benefit from having Hughes.

  5. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Whitley is coming in so he must not be part of the deal, because if so, he would be pulled like sori is. I have to say i like what theo is doing in chicago and i think it will pay dividends. Only problem is the nl central is like the al east. At any time, all of the teams contend now that pitt is good again.

  6. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
    Luis-

    This will make you feel better about Soriano. Game 7 of 2001 WS, 8th inning

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....e-1.953095

  7. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Mtu, true but atl has more of a need now with hudson gone, the only pitcher they had with playoff experience.

  8. luis July 25th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    luis July 25th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
    chicken_stanley July 25th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
    Luis – don’t need to praise the FO… marginal move. BUT its a marginal move that could make the rest of the season interesting.

    I don’t disagree… we are at a crossroads. But I don’t really think there’s a lot that can be done to change that this year, whether its buy, sell, or stand pat. So, to me, an incremental upgrade is a good thing.

    ===========================

    I hope you are right bro… This season has been very boring except April and some games where the rookies play ( I never miss a Nova start for example )… it’s just that I have had enough of the scrap heap thing… I do think they could make some bold moves to improve the long term situation of the team… But yeah, I agree that they won’t do them and I am not sure that i want this FO to do those moves either… So maybe, this is the best that can happen?

  9. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    24 yo Joel De La Cruz from Tampa is the rumored pitcher going to the Cubs.

  10. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Trader,

    I remember… Against Kim if I am not mistaken… Thanks, maybe he can rehash some of those moments with us again

  11. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Soriano isnt scrap heave yet.
    And he is a yankee prospect!!

  12. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Ac-

    Atlanta works for me as long as the return is good.

    I think the D’backs might be a good match also.

  13. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    J9D,

    As I have said previously… I don’t think they have much of a chance this season… Butif they want to make a run, Soriano might be their best bet… Still, it is hardly an exciting move… Therefore my “meh” on my original post

  14. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    ac1,

    Being just 37, he is very young for the Yankee standards… So maybe he is a prospect to them! ;)

  15. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Why is anybody trading Phil, if Cashman is making moves to bolster the roster?

    You trade Phil if you are waving the white flag.

  16. Hans Davenport July 25th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
    Trader,

    I remember… Against Kim if I am not mistaken… Thanks, maybe he can rehash some of those moments with us again

    I think Kim gave up a couple of big home runs. They had him on suicide watch.

  17. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    ac1-

    These pitchers seem to be getting more interest than Hughes. add lefty Erik Bedard to that list.

    The Sox have scouts most everywhere, tweets Peter Gammons of MLB Network. They have a scout watching the Astros’ Bud Norris last night, and will have scouts in attendance for starts by Yovani Gallardo of the Brewers, Edinson Volquez of the Padres, and Jake Peavy of the White Sox today.

  18. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Why is anybody trading Phil, if Cashman is making moves to bolster the roster?
    =======================
    Um, to bolster the roster or future roster.
    We have plenty of pitching, remember that mantra?

  19. Hans Davenport July 25th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Atlanta lost Hudson, but might they have someone they could call up? Not all teams are as desperate as the Yankees are.

  20. chicken_stanley July 25th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Goodnight guys… early morning for me tomorrow

  21. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    If we trade joba and Hughes to arizona they will have all of generation trey

  22. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Not all teams are as desperate as the Yankees are.
    ===================
    We are desperate for pitching down below?

  23. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Luis

    Okay I am good with that. I think it will be a stretch for Yankees to make the playoffs as well but Soriano could help them…will be a stretch for sure. But I know it is not a knockout deal by any means.

  24. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    I think the Braves would be looking at some better upgrade than Hughes to replace Hudson, he’d be a fall back plan at best.

  25. Hans Davenport July 25th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    These pitchers seem to be getting more interest than Hughes. add lefty Erik Bedard to that list.

    Bedard? Oh my. Phil has sunk lower then I thought.

  26. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Phil’s production can easily be replaced from within and he can get us back something worthwhile IMO.

    We are not likely to sign him in the OS.

    Makes sense to try and get something better than a supplemental pick if you can.

    I think we can.

  27. exiledintampa July 25th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Donnie Collins?@RailRidersTT2m
    Cubs scouts fell asleep on this one. Whitley throwing 94 with nasty change tonihgt.

  28. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
    Why is anybody trading Phil, if Cashman is making moves to bolster the roster?

    You trade Phil if you are waving the white flag.

    ===========================

    Not necessarily Tar… We have plenty fo other pitching options ( Pineda, Phelps, Warren, Marshall, Nuno to name a few )… Then you have his impending free agency… If they could get a bat for now and the future, it might make sense to trade him… It sure beats a draft pick when he is gone.

  29. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    “Um, to bolster the roster or future roster.
    We have plenty of pitching, remember that mantra?”

    Future roster means we are waving the white flag.

    A good offensive piece would be worth a half a year of Phil, but right now he’s pitching better than CC and Andy. Pineda doesn’t seem to be the answer, maybe Phelps. But I Don’t think you can trade him if you are really going for it.

  30. exiledintampa July 25th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Guess the Cubs changed their mind about Whitley.

  31. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    We cant go by who boston is watching.
    Boston knows they arent trading with the yankees.

  32. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Well Tar. Some of us disagree.

    You are of course entitled to your opinion.

    :)

  33. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Good night Chicken ;)

  34. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Atlanta Braves Prospects:

    of their Top 20…here’s their breakdown as to Position & Ranking within the Organization :

    RHP ….. 1-3-6-9-10-11-13-15-19

    LHP …… 4-5-17-20

    OF ….. 7-8-14

    C …… 2

    3B ….. 12

    2B ….. 16

    SS ….. 18
    ——————————

    13 of their Top 20 are Pitchers…

    These are on top of their previously mentioned ‘top 7 ML pitchers’

    IMHO they might only need a ‘stud rental’ for 2013.

    Does Phil Hughes ‘fit that bill’ ???

  35. Madrugador July 25th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    After over 100 games, this team is not going to change by adding one player or by having the injured players back from the DL. I wouldn’t give a wooden nickle for Soriano.
    Live with what you’ve got. This team is a scrappy bunch of fighters. As is they probably won’t go to the playoffs but they should still be entertaining at times. (5-4 comeback over Nathan)
    Keep all the prospects that you can.

  36. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    MTU

    If the Yankees are really going for it, who slides in and takes over Phil’s rotation spot?

  37. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    But I Don’t think you can trade him if you are really going for it.
    ==============================
    Hughes is a 4-5 starter for us and can be replaced by Phelps.
    Plus, he is gone next year.
    He might not even get a PS start.
    Some team will want him and how badly will tell be told by who they give up.
    He will be traded with Joba by the TD.

  38. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    The Braves are NOT our only option.

    Just one more possibility is all.

  39. fantasygame101 July 25th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    I read long and hitting to opposite field in the same sentence? this must be an anomaly.

  40. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    “Hughes is a 4-5 starter for us and can be replaced by Phelps.”

    Nova has had what 2 good starts? Right now Phil is better than CC and Andy, so he is more like 2 or 3 on this staff as they are currently trending.

  41. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Mick-

    That is my hope too as long as the return is reasonable.

    I’d even throw in either Claiborne or Betances if it would help make a solid deal.

    We are six rows deep in relievers.

    ;)

  42. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Future roster means we are waving the white flag.
    =========================
    Not really. Could also mean help this year.
    And aren’t we looking for prospects or close to ready players.

  43. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Eventually if all goes well, perhaps Pineda would take Phil’s spot, or if Nuno recovers sufficiently I’d just as happy seeing him slotted in. Until then Phelps could take over.

  44. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    ac1

    The Cardinals, Braves have all been mentioned for Peavy. Just included those other four pitchers because MLBTR’s is mentioning them over and over again. I’ve heard of no interest in Hughes or Joba.

  45. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Tar-

    Key phrase is “right now”.

    ;)

  46. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    I’d even throw in either Claiborne or Betances if it would help make a solid deal.
    =======================
    Not for Soriano

  47. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Watch out for the quiet ones.

    Yankees operate in stealth.

    Especially if it is something of consequence.

    ;)

  48. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    I don’t think they were even in the discussion for Soriano…they’re being discussed for some sort of possible future deal.

  49. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Mick-

    With Hughes to improve the return.

    ;)

  50. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    “Key phrase is “right now”.”

    I know I had to pause there, but I really think Phil is a second half pitcher. I think he’s going to continue his upward trend. We can only hope that CC and Andy reverse theirs.

  51. Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    If the Yanks are serious about making it to October they are certainly not going to move PHil Hughes unless they are overwhelmed. And just because Ivan Nova has looked good since his yet again promotion from AAA, Cashman and company don’t see him the same way some here do. And that goes for Phelps and Warren as well…. Sometimes it’s not the sun that hinders one’s eyesight but rather the blinders.

  52. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    So now Whitley isn’t in the deal?

  53. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    The positive with soriano, wells, etc is we will finally have a bench once grandy, jeter, alex and co return. And even with wells and soriano i would try to bring grandy back next year too…. Maybe he would accept the qualifying offer. His injuries are not like the others and i think he is still a big part of what we are missing, plus he is only 33!

  54. Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Pirates are talking about Joba

  55. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    I agree with Pat M. If they are going for it you don’t move Phil.

  56. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Pat M.-

    They might just be. I do not under rate his value to the right Team.

    If not, we keep him and take the supplemental.

    ;)

  57. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    I agree with Pat M. If they are going for it you don’t move Phil.
    ====================
    I don’t think that’s what he said.

  58. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Joba to replace Grilli.

    That has comedy central written all over it.

    :)

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 25th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    “Trisha wants ARod to get hit by a bus? Seriously deranged.

    Her and C R 9 really are meant to be.”

    You’re in law school? It’s she, not her.

    And I wouldn’t mind if you were with him when the bus came, by the way. Nothing fatal, maybe just something that would get your speechbox and hands.

    :)

    ****************

    “You are blinded by hate”

    Some of us actually have standards. High ones at that. Don’t conveniently confuse that with “hate”.

  60. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Yes. Hate is a stronger word than boy.

  61. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    From Atlanta Papers

    “As for the big picture, the Braves not only just lost one of their leaders, they lost their only real major veteran presence in the starting rotation. Hudson was their only starter with significant playoff experience. In fact, Kris Medlen is the only other start who’s ever appeared in a playoff game. Here are the team’s other starters with their age, overall experience and playoff experience.”
    – Kris Medlen, 27, fourth season, one playoff start (last year).
    – Mike Minor, 25, fourth season, no playoff experience.
    – Julio Teheran, 22, first full season, no playoff experience.
    – Paul Maholm, 31, ninth season, no playoff experience.
    – Brandon Beachy, 26, two full seasons, coming off Tommy John surgery, no playoff experience.

  62. exiledintampa July 25th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Sounds like Cubs played bait and switch with wanting Whitley. Otherwise I don’t think he woulda pitched tonite.

  63. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    I can see the Pirates or Braves going after Hughes and/or Joba.
    If we can get a few good prospects for them, we can do that and not let this year enter into the picture.

    After all, we have plenty of pitching, as pitching is our strength , and we need to build our farm system.

    I heard that here before, not sure from whom?

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    “Yes. Hate is a stronger word than boy.”

    ???

  65. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
    Pirates are talking about Joba
    ===========================================

    PIRATES (OF):

    Travis Snyder
    25 YO ……L/L

    237 AB ……3-23 – .224 (.292 obp)
    RISP = .235

    ———————————————-

    Jose Tabata
    24 YO…….R/R

    135 AB ……2-12 – .274 (342 obp)
    RISP = .257

    —————————————

    Garrett Jones
    32 YO …….L/L

    282 AB …… 10-37 – .255 (.306 obp)
    RISP = .205

  66. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Well… Since everything has been settled ;) … I bid you all a very good night

    Selling high on Hughes would not mean that they are waving the white flag… They would simply be addressing more pressing needs IMO ( the lack of offense )… And Pat M, if the Yankees don’t see Nova the way they should, then it’s on them… Not saying that Hughes isn’t good, quite the contrary… just that his time in pinstripes is close to an end unfortunately… they should have extended him to a team friendly deal last season… i think now it’s to late if they are serious about the cap ( everything points in that direction )

  67. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Sounds like Cubs played bait and switch with wanting Whitley. Otherwise I don’t think he woulda pitched tonite.
    ===========
    maybe they wanted one last look at him.

  68. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Mick-

    There are numerous possible trade partners.

  69. exiledintampa July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Anyways Sori is not an over the top ninja move. C’mon Cash! go ninja mode.

  70. Hans Davenport July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Not all teams are as desperate as NY when frontline players go down.

  71. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    they should have extended him to a team friendly deal last season…
    =================
    why would he have taken it?

  72. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    “Some of us actually have standards. High ones at that. Don’t conveniently confuse that with “hate”.”

    One can have “High standards” and still be blinded by hate.

    Actually they are completely independent thoughts. Unless you consider hating to not be a “high standard” as I do.

    I think I just confused myself. :D

  73. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    And some are.

    It’s the some we need to concern ourselves with.

    ;)

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 25th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Is there anything else happening for real, other than our getting Sori? Or are you all just discussing possibilities. Really no time/need to go back and read all the posts.

  75. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Mick-

    There are numerous possible trade partners.
    ==========================
    Who could be playing Hughes down, saying they are looking into other starters.

  76. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    Cut the pissing, already.

    Sheeeesh.

  77. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    I think I just confused myself.
    =========
    Wouldn’t be the 1st time or the last.

  78. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Trish

    Currently we were talking about the feasibility of trading Phil, while at the same time making a serious run for the post season.

  79. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Security Mick… Having the certainty to have a four year deal, sometimes trumps the risk of waiting to reach FA… especially if you are a pitcher

  80. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    ruminating the possibilities trisha, nothing more than that.

  81. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Security Mick… Having the certainty to have a four year deal, sometimes trumps the risk of waiting to reach FA… especially if you are a pitcher
    =====================
    would think phil would want to explore the market rather than settle for a hometown discount and 4 more years of pitching in a bandbox

  82. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 25th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Thanks guys. Things can happen so quickly that one never knows whether something is actually in the hopper.

  83. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    The whole point of ninja is we wont know about it.

  84. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Mick-

    Of course. Negotiating posture. Playing it cool.

    At the TD nears things become much clearer and BS stops.

    That’s deal making time. Or the ship sails w/o you on it.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 25th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    All I can say is what I always say. It’s going to be an interesting watch. And so I wait patiently – and watch.

  86. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    When you don’t know ( health wise ) if you are going to reach FA, it makes sense to take an early deal… Most players are taking them nowadays… But that time has come and gone

  87. Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    MTU…..The concept behind the Pirates being interested in Joba is ( get this ) to set-up for Melachon !!!

  88. Hans Davenport July 25th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    After all, we have plenty of pitching, as pitching is our strength , and we need to build our farm system.

    “Pitching is our strength” is in the eye of the beholder. Remember Cashman is the one who said, boldly,
    “We are buyers at the deadline.” He really isn’t dealing from a strong position. That’s my observation. Some of the teams likely want more then he is willing to part with.

  89. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    When you don’t know ( health wise ) if you are going to reach FA, it makes sense to take an early deal… Most players are taking them nowadays…
    ====================
    I don’t think either party was interested.
    Maybe there was an offer we don’t know about.
    Maybe Phil knows where he wants to go.

  90. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    how could anyone hate Alex Rodriguez? He’s just a troubled guy. It’s not like he’s murdered, raped, or molested anyone.

  91. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Some of the teams likely want more then he is willing to part with.
    ========================
    Maybe today but not in a week.

  92. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Maybe Mick, maybe… I guess we will never know

  93. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Pat M.-

    Too funny.

    He can’t even handle middle relief.

    But hey, if they want to give us anything more than month old cheese for him they can have him with our compliments.

    I generally consider him a freebie. That’s how far he has fallen.

  94. Hans Davenport July 25th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    MTU…..The concept behind the Pirates being interested in Joba is ( get this ) to set-up for Melachon !!!

    Melancon had two good years with Houston and he’s pitched very well for Pittsburgh. Sure, he didn’t pitch well for Boston but young players have a chance of improving. Many do.

  95. Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Phillip Hughes.. Starting asking price will be 4 years and 50 million Dollars . The guy is only 27 and is nowhere as bad as he’s perceived here by some at The LoHud or in the mentally challenged media that defines much of the NYC media

  96. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    I think Phil wouldn’t have turned down a longer deal, but I really feel he’d love to pitch on the West Coast. Some players just can’t hack the pressure of being a Yankee either, I do think if you got him together with Righetti he’d be in a better situation all around.

  97. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Don’t underestimate the value of Joba.

  98. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Get Phil in a big park on the West and he will thrive… Good night all

  99. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    July 28 could be Phil Hughes’ last game in a NYY uniform. We have a pitching surplus. I say, let the bidding begin.

    CC would pitch game 1
    Kuroda game 2
    Pettitte game 3

    Your game 4 starter is worth more as a #2 in the NL, especially when the difference between Nova and Phil in game 4 or Pineda and Phil in game 4 or Phil and Phelps in game 4 is not even close to the value you could get by selling him as a #2 to an NL team.

  100. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    I think Joba is another one who badly needs to get out of town if he ever has a hope of being a good pitcher again.

  101. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    If the Giants can get Phil right now, with their cavernous RF, and possibly seduce him into staying away from AZ next season, I think they would give up value for him.

  102. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Luis

    You never answered what moves you think the Yankees should make to reach the playoffs this year. I let you off the hook (above) with your criticism of a potential Soriano deal but still waiting for your thoughts on alternatives. If you need until tomorrow I am good.

  103. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    I would ask for Pablo Sandoval for Phil from the Giants.

  104. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Some here have waved the white flag on the season.

    Winning seems to have become shallow this year as they are bitter about what we have become and see no hope for the future as our ship has already sailed.

  105. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    SF Giants are out of the race though. They would not want Phil. Would love to get Sandoval though.

  106. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Pablo Sandoval costs too much to feed.

  107. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    SF Giants #4 Prospect:

    Joe Panik
    SS
    Age: 22 (10/30/1990)
    L/R…. 6′ 1″ 190

    Panik won’t wow you with tools, but he’s the type that just goes out and gets the job done.

    The one thing he’s shown he can do is hit.

    He makes a ton of contact, rarely strikes out, draws walks and looks like he should be able to continue hitting for a high average.

    He’s the perfect No. 2 type hitter, one who can move runners, hit-and-run and hit when behind in the count.

    He makes the plays defensively without much flash.

    He played second base in the Arizona Fall League in 2011 and many feel that he’ll eventually slide over there permanently and become a very solid everyday big leaguer on the right side of the infield.

  108. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Dont hate alex just the drama that he causes

  109. mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Is Sandoval really a 3B?
    He makes a lot of errors.

  110. Captain Clutch July 25th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    I don’t like this…
    ———

    @jnorris427

    One name I’ve heard could be involved in this deal is RHP Corey Black.

  111. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Mick-

    Whatever they can get for Joba will be satisfactory for me.

  112. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Upstats you think hughes can net the #4 prospect from sf?

  113. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    mick July 25th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
    Is Sandoval really a 3B?
    He makes a lot of errors.
    ———————————————

    as frequently as Nunnie ?

  114. luis July 25th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    j9d July 25th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    Luis

    You never answered what moves you think the Yankees should make to reach the playoffs this year. I let you off the hook (above) with your criticism of a potential Soriano deal but still waiting for your thoughts on alternatives. If you need until tomorrow I am good.

    ===================================

    j9d,

    Sorry… I thought I answered it… I don’t think they have a shot this season… I think they should start a much needed rebuilding… Sometimes is good to take a step back to take two steps forward….

    My criticism ( if you can call indifference as criticism ) toward the potential Soriano trade has more to do with that he is 37, has very little patience at the plate and has many holes on his swing. But also i have recognized that if they choose to make a run this season, he was probably their best bet without hindering the future. Still, I don’t think it will be enough… We are several bats short… Right now, is Cano and…..Nobody.

  115. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    I know a lot of folks are excited about Soriano….I’m kinda meh about it. He is an upgrade yes no question….and it’s kinda cool to see him come full circle …. And if the reports are accurate that the yanks didnt give up much then fine…..but it’s not log to be enough if this is a stand alone move…..we’ll see…..I don’t dislike the move….I just don’t think it’ll matter unless a lot more is done

  116. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
    Upstats you think hughes can net the #4 prospect from sf?
    ====================================

    Was hoping ….a kinda local guy from Dutchess County (NY)

  117. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Blake-

    My POV too. But I think more will be forthcoming.

  118. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Or at least I’ll say more SHOULD be forthcoming.

    ;)

  119. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    is that your area of Upstate? Dutchess..

  120. sunny615 July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Mo has 33 saves. Can you image how many he’d have already if we actually had a GOOD team?

  121. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    MTU,

    Yea….again it just depends on what all they can add…..remember they have 7 games to make up….which isn’t insurmountable but it’s a significant amount.

    If they can’t add enough to make a serious title run then they are losing the opportunity cost they could have had by selling…..so if the they are going for it…..they need to make sure it’s worth it…..or at least has a chance to be worth it

  122. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    yup.

  123. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Well. Got to hit the sack soon.

    Big day for me tomorrow. Got to get the old ticker checked out.

    Should be fun to glow in the dark afterwards.

    You might even be able to see me all the ways out here in Utah from the East Coast.

    :)

  124. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    many memories from there…Marist graduate.

  125. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    SF Giants are 7.5 back of the Dodgers. I would think they’re sellers. So while they might part with Sandoval, they would want prospects for him, not Phil Hughes.

    I think the Braves are the most likely destination for Phil.

  126. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Good night MTU, Good luck with that check-up.

  127. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Luis

    Okay so you are done for this season. That is fair. Can’t say it is easy to stick with this team but it is only the end of July and we are 3 games back of WC. Part of fun of baseball is taking a chance on being disappointed. Yeah we will more likely than not be disappointed this year when it all pans out but look at some of the recent WS winners who barely made it into the playoffs but the teams were scrappy and fun to watch and prevailed. That is the fun part of baseball.

  128. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Blake-

    I think they’re going for a WC berth even though they’ll say the Division title.

    Once they’re in anything can happen.

    I’m fine with that as long as what they add doesn’t compromise the future.

    And I don’t think it will.

  129. Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    MTU…..May the force be with you tomorrow !!!

  130. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Howler July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
    many memories from there…Marist graduate.
    ====================================

    Son…MBA from Marist

    Daughter….Marist Grad School

    It’s so much nicer than it was in my ‘college days’ !

  131. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Thanks Tar.

    I’ll light up like the “Electric Cowboy”.

    :)

  132. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    j9d July 25th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
    Luis

    Okay so you are done for this season. That is fair. Can’t say it is easy to stick with this team but it is only the end of July and we are 3 games back of WC. Part of fun of baseball is taking a chance on being disappointed. Yeah we will more likely than not be disappointed this year when it all pans out but look at some of the recent WS winners who barely made it into the playoffs but the teams were scrappy and fun to watch and prevailed. That is the fun part of baseball.
    =================================

    Thank You, j9d !!!

  133. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    it better be they ask me for enough money ;)

  134. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Thanks Pat M.

    Much appreciated.

  135. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    j9d July 25th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
    Luis

    Okay so you are done for this season. That is fair. Can’t say it is easy to stick with this team but it is only the end of July and we are 3 games back of WC. Part of fun of baseball is taking a chance on being disappointed. Yeah we will more likely than not be disappointed this year when it all pans out but look at some of the recent WS winners who barely made it into the playoffs but the teams were scrappy and fun to watch and prevailed. That is the fun part of baseball.

    =================================

    One question… What’s fun about adding another past his prime vet that k’s a lot?? … I understand where you are coming from and I agree that faith and hope are the last things you should lose… I certainly hope that they can turn around this season and make me eat my words… Or better yet, that they surprise me and make bold moves to improve the LT situation of the team

  136. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    don’t glow too much MTU

  137. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Good night MTU and good luck tomorrow

  138. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Blake

    Was it SS Jose Peraza of the Braves the prospect that you liked?

    Link to all teams top prospects:

    http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/.....2013/ipad/

  139. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
    it better be they ask me for enough money
    =====================================

    Ahhhhh heck…..you lucky enough to afford it !!!

    (I’m officially on the other end of the tuition-paying spectrum)

  140. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Howler-

    I’ll be real careful what I piss on.

    Thanks for making me aware of that.

    :)

  141. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Bets of Luck MTU!

  142. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Thanks Luis.

    I hope I break the machine rather than the other way round.

    :)

  143. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    MTU

    Good luck tomorrow. What time is it a go to glow?

  144. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    I am sure you will bro… Take care and again the best of luck tomorrow

  145. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    The Thought Leader ?@yagottagotomo 6m
    if its corey black, i have no trouble moving him. you trade guys in the 15-20 range of your prospect list for mlb upgrades.

  146. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Thanks Mick.

    I have to be around to hear all the crazy trade proposals.

    And to contribute some of my own.

    :)

  147. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Luis

    You are betting on the odds of “I told you so” and those are the better odds right now. So be safe and happy that you can tell us all that you knew better all along. Others have a reasoned approach and are not happy with the team but it is still our team. It’s not about faith and hope. I have neither. It’s about taking a chance on being disappointed.

  148. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    YT-

    Liftoff is at 11 AM.

    :)

  149. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
    The Thought Leader ?@yagottagotomo 6m
    if its corey black, i have no trouble moving him. you trade guys in the 15-20 range of your prospect list for mlb upgrades.

    =======================

    For a 37 year old player that will cost around 9 mil on top of it, you would give up a top 20 prospect?

  150. igotid88 July 25th, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    sunny615 July 25th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
    Mo has 33 saves. Can you image how many he’d have already if we actually had a GOOD team?
    ———

    Depends. With the regulars they would be scoring more runs. And with the good pitching there would be more blowouts.

  151. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    glad your not in NY to pee on Alex’s feet…Cashman would quiver into a ball if he knew the attack of the 60 ft. Arod was coming :)

  152. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Watch selig try to screw us and void the deal because we arent losing enough

  153. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    Kev-

    I believe it’s going to be 24 yo Tampa pitching prospect Joel De Los Santos.

  154. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    It’s not about faith and hope. I have neither. It’s about taking a chance on being disappointed.
    =====================
    Really it is. It’s called suspension of disbelief, which many here have not.

  155. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Though watching him approve th dodgers/sox deal and the jays/marlins deals, he probably can never justify not approving a deal ever again

  156. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
    Luis

    You are betting on the odds of “I told you so” and those are the better odds right now. So be safe and happy that you can tell us all that you knew better all along. Others have a reasoned approach and are not happy with the team but it is still our team. It’s not about faith and hope. I have neither. It’s about taking a chance on being disappointed.

    ========================

    Wrong bro… I have no interest in “I told you so” or betting on the odds that I might be right… It would not make me feel better in any way… This would be foolish and childish, I am none of those things…If I were you, I would have given you a little benefit of the doubt… This statement was uncalled for, I don’t think I deserved such a comment

  157. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
    RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
    The Thought Leader ?@yagottagotomo 6m
    if its corey black, i have no trouble moving him. you trade guys in the 15-20 range of your prospect list for mlb upgrades.

    =======================

    For a 37 year old player that will cost around 9 mil on top of it, you would give up a top 20 prospect?
    ——-

    Top 20 in your system? Yeah. Absolutely. Soriano would instantly become our second or third best hitter in the lineup.

    Yankee Trader, I don’t know much about Joel De Los Santos. What do you think?

  158. Oscar Madison July 25th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    ‘Slum Lord of the Flies’ ? ?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....45559.html

  159. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    “Blake

    Was it SS Jose Peraza of the Braves the prospect that you liked?”

    Yea he’s a long way away but nice upside and would be a good pickup for the yanks

  160. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    “It’s not about faith and hope. I have neither. It’s about taking a chance on being disappointed.”

    At some point it should become about being realistic and doing what is prudent. They have about 5 days to make that assessment. I’m for waiting to the last minute, but also having a plan in place and be willing and ready to pull the trigger.

  161. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Here the Yanks are battling their asses off and they get no credit.
    When they were down last week the vultures were out in feeding frenzy mode.
    Coincidental?
    I think not.

  162. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Luis

    You said above this season is lost. How did I misread that? It is totally fine that you think so.

  163. JobaTipsHisCap July 25th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Missed the game, but I am glad to see arod is still fighting hard against Yankees.
    Good. Keep fighting, keep making them feel uncomfortable.

  164. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    Another thing j9d,

    I have posted many times the reasons I don’t think this team has what it takes… I am not going to post them again… Feel free to look up for them… And I rather be surprised expecting the worst, than being disappointed afterwards

  165. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    “Here the Yanks are battling their asses off and they get no credit.
    When they were down last week the vultures were out in feeding frenzy mode.”

    Mick shut up. You were circling with everybody else. As soon a they win a game you become all high and mighty. Nobody (except for maybe one) is buying it.

  166. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    I credit the yankees still being in a race but i want to see them do something to gain a long term player. This is when a good gm can turn hughes into 1-2 prospects. Seattle got 4 for cliff lee, seattle gave 6 for eric bedard. Hughes is good in big parks so we should be able to pull at least 1 good prospect back like that ss from sf.

  167. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    The front office really should be scrounging up any way to make this team more competitive. They have to position themselves to be the Cinderella story. They’re what, 2 games out of the wild card spot, and the division is still winnable.

    It’s our last season with Mo. Make it happen.

  168. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Tar- Get a reality check.
    Where are your cohorts tonight?
    Are they Yankee fans or not.
    Tell me Randy gave a sh!t when they won.
    It’s all about being right with them.
    Shut up? That’s hateful, maybe you ought to go to bed and rest up for whatever travails tomorrow brings, Mr Realism.

  169. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Luis

    I get it. You never were in on this season and are not now. All good.

  170. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
    Luis

    You said above this season is lost. How did I misread that? It is totally fine that you think so.

    ==================================

    Wrong again…. i have said that I think they have very little chance with their current roster and that they are several players away to have PS contending team… they just don’t have the assets to adquire such players… Also, our core is very old… A nice rebuilding process would be a nice thing to see

  171. JobaTipsHisCap July 25th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Cashman is a loser, he is just another GM.

  172. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Kev-

    Sorry it’s Joel De La Cruz

    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....pid=503444

    I’m not sure it will be him, but it was rumored earlier that the Cubs were interested in him.

  173. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    Nobody (except for maybe one) is buying it.
    ========================
    Speak for yourself Mr High and Mighty.
    You are in the minority, not that it matters.
    It’s supposed to be fun and games, not reality.
    And what was I circling about? Yankee losses?
    I leave that for the Reality Squad.

    Suspension of Disbelief. Google it.

  174. Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    I’ve been outspoken about the Yanks direction since they were bounced out last October, however I’ve been rooting for them since the 1961 season and they’re my team so it is what it is. Go Yanks. I dread next season though as it sits right now

  175. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    j9d,

    No, you don’t get it… And that’s sad… Not to mention that I think you owe me an apology.

  176. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Mick,

    Don’t let Tar get to you I think he has bipolar disorder.

  177. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    Pat M. July 25th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
    I’ve been outspoken about the Yanks direction since they were bounced out last October, however I’ve been rooting for them since the 1961 season and they’re my team so it is what it is. Go Yanks. I dread next season though as it sits right now

    ========================

    So do I… Go Yankees!!

  178. Hankflorida July 25th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    Trisha,
    There is a lot of argumentative comments about A-Rod but there must be a realization that he has effected the way the Yankees have reinvented themselves and are adhering to the cap.
    We discussed your new version of the hybrid Yankees, so, let me go on with the analogy using the A-Rod older model. A-Rod is that fancy turbo car that George leased that he thought would bring in the power to win every race, and in the end when he left it to his son, the car became a gas guzzler that was leaking all over the place and the lease still had years to go. Because the son did not want to walk in his father’s shoes, he decided not to go that route any more. All Hal has to do is look at Ed Barrow and George Weiss and realize who his father tried to
    emulate and did have success. He should realize that not every car built for maximum output and big bucks turns out to be a lemon like A-Rod, and not understanding this may lose us Cano and bring us back to what was deemed the “Horace Clark Era.”

  179. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    Good night all.

    Next on the Yankees wish list?

  180. Captain Clutch July 25th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    I am fine about getting Soriano for this year because they obviously need offense. But I really don’t like the fact that he will be here next year. It looks like next years team is going to be a disaster. I would rather they trade a real prospect or 2 and get a good younger player who is signed for another 2-3 years. Instead of adding all of these over 35 guys.

  181. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Tar,

    Have a very good night…

    Buster,

    Keep your insults to yourself

  182. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Bret

    WHy would you make fun of a serious mental disorder?

    Mick

    You’ve been circling like a vulture like everybody else. They eek out a couple of wins, and its back to Mr high and mighty.

  183. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    Again I ask you what are you talking about?
    Circling? What does that even mean?

  184. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    Pat M. how can you dread next season? Arod could be off the books and Choo + McCann + whatever we get for Hughes. Nunez could be better. Jeter will probably DH and could be here all year. We’ll still have Cano most likely. Mason Williams, Slade Heathcott and Tyler Austin could be closer. JR Murphy could probably be on the team. Pineda could dominate. Banuelos, Depaula, Campos and Jose Ramirez could be closer. We get to watch Clarkin, Judge and Jagielo. We could have Granderson back or an extra draft pick. CC, Kuroda, Nova, Phelps, Pineda.

  185. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    Buster, good post.

  186. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    I’m not making fun of you Tar I’m pointing out that you have bipolar. That means your mood controls your thought patterns. It’s a serious condition that I’m sure you’re aware of.

  187. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    Without Hughes the Yank rotation is Kuroda, CC, Andy, Nova and when healthy Phelps, backed by Warren and Nuno. If you think that rotation is going to get it done without a massive upgrade in offense I have a bridge to sell you. And I don’t believe a massive upgrade in offense is going to happen.

  188. Oscar Madison July 25th, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    Bi-Polar – Retarded same difference LOL !

  189. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Buster, If this is true about Tar, I will no longer engage him in discourse as it might be bad for his health. I would like to know if this is true Tar.

  190. j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Luis

    You are a good guy. You should just be yourself like you used to be. Don’t worry about pleasing anyone else or aligning yourself with anyone. It’s just a blog.

  191. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    No Downs Syndrome is not the same thing as bipolar disorder. Downs is congenital. Onset of bipolar is later in life, suggesting a strong environmental component.

  192. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Buster, try to find out if it’s true that Tar has bipolar as I bid Good Night…

    If it is true please advice him to continue taking his meds as they will help.

    Clearly tonight, he was behind in his dosage, if he is bipolar…

  193. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Bret

    You need to do some serious growing up.

  194. XLJ07 July 25th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    I hate this trade. Another aging player past his prime. I wouldn’t give up a top 20 prospect for him. Also, I hope they dump Wells in the offseason. They don’t need both Soriano and Wells on the team next year.

    I was hoping Cashman could get someone like Trumbo.

  195. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    j9d July 25th, 2013 at 10:42 pm
    Luis

    You are a good guy. You should just be yourself like you used to be. Don’t worry about pleasing anyone else or aligning yourself with anyone. It’s just a blog.

    ==========================

    LMAO!! I am very much my self… I am not pleasing anyone for the sake of it… I just don’t think for example that your uncalled assertion that “I want to tell you so” is a nice thing to say… Especially when you don’t have one shred of proof about it and I haven’t given you a single reason to think that’s the case… …

  196. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Mick,

    The side effects of SSRI drugs are just as intolerable as the condition itself. But I thought Silver Linings Playbook was a good movie. And if I were diagnosed with bipolar I’d read more Emily Deans MD. She teaches at Harvard Medical School. Very smart gal.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com.....r-disorder

  197. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Good night everyone

  198. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    I enjoyed Silver Linings.
    Have you seen This Is The End?
    I think Tar would get a kick out of it.

  199. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    They will have Soriano, Wells and Ichiro next year. I am falling asleep from boredom just thinking about it.

  200. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Mick,

    I am sorry… But you are going out of line here…

  201. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    … But you are going out of line here…
    ===========
    how so?

  202. luis July 25th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Bipolar? take meds? come on !!

  203. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    I am very sorry that Tar has bipolar and have recommended a comedy that might relieve his anxiety.

  204. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Yes, luis, seems to be getting a bit over the top to me.

  205. XLJ07 July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Cashman better trade Chamberlain and Hughes. Yanks are not resigning them and they can easily replace their current roles on the team.

    I think they can get good value back for them. Teams are desperate for pitching help.

    A change of scenery will do both of them good. I’m confident they will pitch well for their new teams.

  206. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Luis

    Thanks, but don’t worry about them. Their words speak for themselves. You have a good night.

  207. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    luis, mick is just effing around.

  208. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    being on meds is not a crime, in fact, it’s a very smart thing to do, if needed and prescribed by a Dr.

  209. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    You can never tell who they’ll have next year until it is next year…they’ll owe Wells almost nothing, he can be waived, traded or decide to retire

  210. mick July 25th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Good Night to the Bizarro LoHud where Losing is Winning and Winning is Losing.
    Go figure…

  211. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Howler-

    Since they can have Wells for almost nothing, does it seem likely to you that the current Yankee front office won’t keep him?

  212. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    If a better alternative is available during winter I’m sure they’d go for it instead.

  213. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Howler-

    You mean a player who will pay the Yanks to play here? Negative salary, the Yank FO gold standard!

  214. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    I did not see Bustero mock bipolar. Very interesting discussion tonight, folks. I’ve actually been wanting to see Silver Linings Playbook, I hear there are a few similarities between myself and Brad Cooper’s character.

    As for luis, I agree with j9d, luis has certainly aligned himself with other folks on the blog, and butts his nose into other people’s blog disputes to have the back of his clique buddies.

    That’s not necessary on a blog. It’s just a blog, luis. Discuss baseball, life, economics, but there’s no need to develop alliances.

  215. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
    Pat M. how can you dread next season? Arod could be off the books and Choo + McCann + whatever we get for Hughes. Nunez could be better. Jeter will probably DH and could be here all year. We’ll still have Cano most likely. Mason Williams, Slade Heathcott and Tyler Austin could be closer. JR Murphy could probably be on the team. Pineda could dominate. Banuelos, Depaula, Campos and Jose Ramirez could be closer. We get to watch Clarkin, Judge and Jagielo. We could have Granderson back or an extra draft pick. CC, Kuroda, Nova, Phelps, Pineda.

    ==========================

    Excellent !!!

    …..and it’s still 2013 !

    Good post !

  216. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    perhaps in the world of the forums…they’d much rather pay some money for a player who’ll produce at a better rate. Look where they were willing to go for Youk when the need came about. Wells was a stop-gap maneuver that started out great but didn’t pan out as well as they liked. If he can be moved in the off-season if he doesn’t continue to produce the team will have no problems doing it.

  217. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    I think even the same can be said for Ichiro

  218. Howler July 25th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    eb03 I agree, but I don’t think it’s right diagnosing someone on a blog as being bipolar based on a few statements they make online. Considering how a lot of other people who have no idea what it’s all about can react to that. Sometimes people just have crappy days.

  219. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    They’re trying dammit – all those injuries and 189 looming – they’ve tried alot considering those two huge hurdles to work around !

    Too bad Reid Brignac didn’t work out – great girlfriend !

  220. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    Goodnight, you crazy optimists. I’d say pleasant dreams but you already have them.

  221. Tar July 25th, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    CR

    I’m sorry they mocked bi-polar, not cool. Although maybe you didn’t mind so much because it was really directed at me. :wink:

    As for Luis, Having your friends back is what friends do. j9d was out of line with a couple of insinuations/ comments directed at him.

    Finally it’s no secret I wish you weren’t here, but if you are going to stick around I appreciate you behaving. I’ve known this new handle of yours immediately after i responded to you a few days/week ago. I haven’t said anything because as for as I can tell, you have been doing the right thing. Like Soriano a small step, but at least in the right direction.

    Good night all.

  222. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    The Braves are among the teams that are actively pursuing Astros right-hander Bud Norris
    ===========================================================

    Phil Hughes is better than Bud Norris ….c’mon !

  223. Rich in NJ July 25th, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    Romine needs regular playing if the hope for a better reality still matters here.

  224. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    Who’s CR ?

  225. G. Love July 25th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    I’m actually having a hard time seeing people upset about getting Soriano.

    It makes me wonder what you really want as a fan.

    Do you want a chance or you just want to see Rome burn?

    I mean, seriously, if they play every prospect in the system for the next 20 years the chances of them finding Jeter, Mo, Bernie, Jorge, Andy is pretty close to impossible.

    If this season has proven anything it’s just because you play prospects doesn’t make them major league regulars.

    The cream always rises to the top. Guys like Robertsen, Claiborne, etc. took their opportunities and ran with them.

    The pouting that goes on here when a prospect who isn’t even close to knocking on the door is perceived to be blocked gets a little out of hand.

    This team is winning games and hanging in there with the worst Yankee offense we’ve seen in two decades. They need help. You should want them to get help.

    If this band of injury plagued players makes the post season and wins a round, you won’t be happy because a prospect was dealt for Soriano?

    In some people’s quest to blow this up, they’re missing a team that is doing it with smoke, mirrors and pitching right now.

    I thought for sure this place would be busting over splitting a 4 game series in Texas, but it’s like we lost 8 straight in here.

    If Soriano goes through, our offense is better. Hafner is a void offensively. Sori can take away Wells’ pathetic AB’s. He improves the offense.

    Is he Reggie? No. But I’ve seen all these supposed AL powers and we stand toe to toe with them with an offense that should be in Scranton save 2-3 guys.

    I’m starting to realize some people have an agenda that goes against the Yankees winning this season. Maybe they’ll fall short. Maybe they’ll grab a WC and get demolished.

    But acting like every prospect in the system is the same and all should be handed roster spots in order to save the franchise is wrong.

    Guys like Sanchez, Ramirez, DePaula seem to be the fast risers. If we can hold on to guys that should be held onto, we’ll be fine long term and plenty of youth will be served here.

  226. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    I made it obvious from the beginning, from my Cashman dislike to my factual Boston conspiracies. There’s nothing wrong with bipolar, it’s actually been the subject of a Canadian TV show I watch, Rookie Blue. I think I just have to find better medication. I used to be on Lithium for it, but that stuff made me sick.

    At some point, I have to cease the personal harassment, I know it’s not right, and it’s not good for my emotional/psychological health. It turns me into a monster. I find that the best option when I disagree is just to leave the blog for the day.

    I actually turned off the Red sox Yankees Sunday night game, the girlfriend (a NY Post reporter) had work at 6 am the next day, and Im glad I didnt subject myself to the manner of defeat. I didnt care about us winning so much as us winning to help the Rays and Orioles/hurt the Red Sox.

    It’s the first step to becoming a better person, losing my love for ny teams. the way Dolan operates the Rangers/Knicks, the way the Steinbrothers run the Yanks, in addition Cashman and KLong, they dont deserve my love. The next step is to lose my hate for boston. I actually apologized this week to my gf for repeateldy mocking the death of her bostonian uncle a year ago. it’s one thing to hate boston teams, but why hate their people. so they cheer for the wrong team, i have to learn to grow.

  227. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    G Love,

    I just want the Yanks to lose every remaining game this season. We have no chance at winning, get a better draft pick, hope for KLong and Cashman to be fired, and hope for the Steinbrothers to sell the team to a group/individual more deserving of owning the Yankees.

  228. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    …lose all games except games against the Red Sox.

  229. G. Love July 25th, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    eb03,

    None of those things will happen. They aren’t going to lose out the rest of the season and any draft pick we get will be in the 15-20 range at best. You don’t get Jeter or Machado in that range.

    As for Cashman being fired, it’s never happening until they sell the team. The team plan is obviously to slash payroll next year results be damned. They just need someone to push buttons and be an accountant next year. Not someone to build the team. It’ll be Cashman without a doubt. Plus he probably gets a 2-3 year extension based on navigating around all the injuries this season.

    You root how you want to. I just don’t understand Yankee fans who believe 100% that losing is the quickest way to fix this. That’s not a quick fix. It’s anything but. And it could be decades before they sniff the postseason again if they lose, become irrelevant and have Cashman drafting & developing our future stars.

    The best any Yankee fan can hope for is that we get some bats and some health and make the next 2 months interesting.

    And if we happen to pass the Red Sox on the way up or knock them out in the post season, all the better. They’re not the 27 Yankees. They’ll be out of first place by next week.

  230. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    Seriously, anyone in the Westchester area must try Buffet de la Gare once before it closes this weekend. If I wasnt headed back home tomorrow, Id be there again. Soft shelled crab the other night in an unbelievably amazing sauce, profiteroles for dessert, and other stuff. Expensive, but worth every penny.

  231. XLJ07 July 25th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    Cashman no longer has Steinbrenner’s unlimited budget to bail him out. They miss the postseason so he signs Tex, CC and Burnett to fix his problems. He can’t do that anymore.

    Its embarrassing that he might not be able to put a good team together with a 189 million dollar payroll next year.

  232. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    G love, you make sense. You’re right, Cash probably wont be fired. Steins wont sell for another 5-10 years, at least. But I dont see any chance at winning the World Series this year. All we can depend on in our rotation is Hiroki. Alfonso isn’t going to help matters much.

  233. G. Love July 25th, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    eb03,

    Soriano beats Hafner and probably Wells vs. LHP right now. It’s an improvement. Not the big improvement we all hope for (a young cost controlled star) but it’s an improvement to the team’s biggest weakness. I can’t get down on it.

    I’d rather see him in the lineup than any of the alternatives right now.

    I think Cashman has tenure here. He’ll be here forever in one form or another.

    And that’s a shame about Buffet de la Garre. I didn’t know it was closing. I ate there once a few years ago and it was very very good. I used to love Harvest on Hudson in that area as well, but the food slipped dramatically over the years and doesn’t match the setting. The last time I went there it was akin to catering hall food. Not good anymore unless they’ve changed chefs.

  234. eb03 July 26th, 2013 at 12:05 am

    If Cashman is here forever, then I cant and wont willingly give every ounce of my heart to them like I always have. He’s a disgrace to the franchise in every imaginable way.

    The owners of Buffet finally sold. New guy that’s taking over is naming it St. George. George, after his pet rabbit, lol. It’ll still be French cuisine, but a much more relaxed atmosphere.

    The gf’s family has known them for the last 30 years. Genuinely great people. A shame I only got the pleasure of meeting them a few times.

  235. mick July 26th, 2013 at 5:36 am

    I thought for sure this place would be busting over splitting a 4 game series in Texas, but it’s like we lost 8 straight in here.
    ==================
    G Love- My point exactly.
    Good post btw…

    It’s what you get from spoiled entitled “fans.”
    But , hey…as you say…you root , or not, how you want.
    Sure seems like the ones that don’t, view this team as an anomaly, and wins are just shallow as they wait for the inevitable impending doom…

  236. BIG AL July 26th, 2013 at 5:50 am

    After hearing Cashman state A-Rod would not start playing until after July 31, it once more makes me believe they are holding A-Rod back in order to collect the 33% salary money from the insurance company.

    I’d be surprised if the insurance company pays out without a fight, they must know the Yankees are scaming them.

    Perhaps MLB told the Yankees an A-Rod suspension is coming by the end of July, and that’s what they’re waiting to happen.

  237. blake July 26th, 2013 at 7:23 am

    “You root how you want to. I just don’t understand Yankee fans who believe 100% that losing is the quickest way to fix this. That’s not a quick fix. It’s anything but. And it could be decades before they sniff the postseason again if they lose, become irrelevant and have Cashman drafting & developing our future stars.”

    Here is the thing though……you may lose either way…..likely will if significant additions aren’t made.

    I’m only interested in the Yankees getting good again as soon as possible…..if you don’t have a title contending team then trading assets for younger more controllable assets is one way to get good again faster.

    I don’t like the Yankees to lose…..and ideally Id love to go for it this year and also be able to be good long term….but I’m not sure both of those things are possible.

    If they keep on worrying about next year next year then it’s going to be increasingly harder for them to compete…..

    If they can add enough this year to to for it in Mos final season then I won’t oppose…..I’ll cheer…..but I do t see where they are getting enough help to do it and it’s going to suck next year when project 189 kicks in and they have an even older and even more mediocre roster

  238. blake July 26th, 2013 at 7:27 am

    @BNightengale: Alfonso Soriano is landing in New York this morning and scheduled to be in #Yankees lineup tonight.

  239. blake July 26th, 2013 at 7:30 am

    @Buster_ESPN: We think of dream matchups:Superman Vs. Batman, etc. Imagine vintage George Steinbrenner, ’78 model, Vs. A-Rod. With Twitter available. Wow.

  240. Tar July 26th, 2013 at 7:35 am

    I agree blake, Cash doesn’t have but a few more days to figure it out.

    But thinking like that I guess makes us both “spoiled, entitled, vulture like ” fans with an agenda. :D

  241. blake July 26th, 2013 at 7:40 am

    My only agenda is for the Yankees to get get again…..more duct tape isn’t going to accomplish that.

  242. blake July 26th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: #yankees are expected to pay less than $10M of the $25M or so to go on soriano. #cubs #yankees

    @JonHeymanCBS: #cubs will receive a prospect back. corey black, a pitcher, is one possibility. #soriano

    If its black then I’m not wild about that…..you’re talking about trading a high upside reliever for probably a 5% or less greater chance of makin he playoffs and like a 1 % or less greater chance of winning the WS……

  243. blake July 26th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: it is believed #yankees will pay somewhere in the neighborhood of $7-8M of the $25M to go on #soriano.

  244. RadioKev July 26th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    It would be nice to keep Corey Black, but giving him up for a significant lineup upgrade is worth it.

    It’s a high-A reliever prospect for major league talent required if we want to make a postseason run.

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