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Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 25, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alex Rodriguez

Here’s the thing I keep coming back to this morning, and the thing I kept trying to figure out yesterday: What was the point of that entire chapter of the Alex Rodriguez saga? What was he trying to accomplish?

I’m pretty sure Tim Brown has already written about this far better than I can — “Given the gravity of the moment, his career possibly at stake, Rodriguez discovered the ballpark streaker of doctors.” — but here are a few things I’m still trying to wrap my head around.

1. Was Rodriguez trying to get on the field this weekend?
If he legitimately believes the Yankees are keeping him off the field through a false diagnosis, was he thinking that going on the offensive would force them to change their minds? If the Yankees suddenly play him at this point, they’ll be caving to a player who threw a sort of big-media tantrum because he didn’t get his way. Or, I suppose, they could just tell him, “You’re ready to play? Fly to Texas immediately. You’re starting at third base in an afternoon game in 99 degree heat.” And if his quad really is fine, and he really does think the Yankees aren’t willing to put him on the field, why not play through last weekend and call their bluff?

2. Why would the Yankees want to keep Rodriguez off the field?
Is he envisioning a Hail Mary scam in which the Yankees refuse to play him, claim he’s hurt, and try to collect insurance money or void the contract? Wouldn’t that plan be pretty easily spoiled by Rodriguez himself? Wouldn’t that plan be put into real jeopardy by the Yankees actually letting Rodriguez play through a rehab assignment and announcing that he’s going to be back in the big leagues in two days (which is exactly what they did)? Isn’t he the one who complained about the quad injury in the first place, derailing the Yankees plans to activate him? The Yankees are paying this guy an absurd amount of money, and he would probably become their cleanup hitter in an instant. They’re ready to play him, if only because there’s nothing else to do with him.

3. Doesn’t every player with a mild injury think he’s ready to play?
How many times in the past week has Derek Jeter said he wants to play? He knows he’s been diagnosed with a Grade 1 quadriceps strain — same thing Rodriguez has — but he keeps telling anyone who will listen that he feels no discomfort and thinks he’s ready to go. That’s fine. That’s expected. Mark Teixeira was saying the same thing about his wrist before he came back. I’m sure guys like Jayson Nix and David Phelps and Curtis Granderson are feeling pretty much the same way right now. But we’ve all seen enough baseball — and seen the Yankees cautious approach to injuries — to know that it’s a process, and that it moves slowly at times. Rodriguez seems to have suffered a mild setback, then he threw a fit about it and blamed Chris Ahmad.

4. Is this just part of an ever maddening burnout?
We all know that Rodriguez is a bit of a loose cannon. He’s prone to saying the wrong thing and doing the wrong thing, and he brings the negative attention on himself far too often. Away from the public, many young players say he’s a kind and willing teacher; Eduardo Nunez seems to really like him, for example. But Rodriguez’s career is spinning the wrong direction. He’s been hurt, his numbers are going down, and now there’s a Biogenesis suspension almost certainly in his future. If Rodriguez is panicking and making desperate decisions as they occur to him, then yesterday might make a little more sense.

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181 Responses to “What just happened?”

  1. austinmac July 25th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    I just saw we go to LA to play the Dodgers after the Rays. Great.that will go well. Any bets as to how Kershaw will do?

  2. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Chad-

    Don’t you think his Lawyers are advising him ?

    And do you think he has paid all that money just to ignore them ?

    ;)

  3. blake July 25th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    “I once went to a kids baseball tournament that had those double bases. Why not?”

    cause baseball is very traditional and doesn’t like change…..it would take PEDS being involved for about 20 years before they would spring to action.

  4. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Mac-

    How can anyone expect a Team to win consistently w an O like the Yankees have at present ?

    Maybe if their starting staff were 5 Kuroda’s. Even then.

    Hal said he’d fix it. Where is he ?

    Oh, I know. We’re trying but the prices are ridiculous. Or. There’s nothing out there for us.

    OK. Sure. Whatever you all say. Then just watch your season disappear before your very eyes.

  5. MG July 25th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    1. Was Rodriguez trying to get on the field this weekend?
    Or, I suppose, they could just tell him, “You’re ready to play? Fly to Texas immediately. You’re starting at third base in an afternoon game in 99 degree heat.” And if his quad really is fine, and he really does think the Yankees aren’t willing to put him on the field, why not play through last weekend and call their bluff?
    —————
    Chad, you need to stop stealing my stuff, do you think you own the blog or something? :)

    But that is exactly what I would do if I were the Yankees, particularly in the stadium where they hate him the most.

    He would be in the lineup today, it’s only a 2 hour flight from Tampa.

  6. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Blake-

    I think the Yankees have picked a lane but it’s a shoulder instead of a real lane and they’re parked there waiting for the tow truck to come.

    ;)

  7. MG July 25th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 8:58 am
    Chad-

    Don’t you think his Lawyers are advising him ?

    And do you think he has paid all that money just to ignore them ?
    —————
    MTU, I know you think that Arod has some great attorneys but, based on his actions to date, his lead attorney is Jackie Chiles with Alonquin J Calhoun as his second chair… :)

  8. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    MG-

    I am ashamed to admit I do not know who those guys are.

    Remember I live in a cave.

    If it were me I would hire the best sports litigation attorneys known to Man.

    :)

  9. astrocityfan July 25th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    To continue part of the discussion from the last thread, Danny Knobler of csbssports wrote this morning the braves were thinking of adding a pitcher before hudson got hurt. I guess they wasnt someone with experience. If that is the case, you have to think they are even more anxious now

  10. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    The Bravos are also desperate for left-handed relief.

    If we are not going for it still I’d add in Logan and get something really good back.

    Hughes plus Logan.

    Of course that’s just plain silly because we all know Soriano is on the way to save the day.

    ;)

  11. MG July 25th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:08 am
    MG-

    I am ashamed to admit I do not know who those guys are.

    Remember I live in a cave.

    If it were me I would hire the best sports litigation attorneys known to Man.
    —————-
    google the names, then report back, you will get a good laugh out of it unless you are offended… :)

  12. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    MG-

    :)

    And no I’m not offended.

    Sorry I spoiled your joke.

  13. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:19 am

    MTU,

    the Yankees are driving in the slow lane…..playing it safe…..the fork in the road is coming…..hopefully they choose right or left and don’t plow the tree in the middle.

  14. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    HardballTalk ?@HardballTalk 6m
    Add “slum lord” to your latest Alex Rodriguez talking points http://dlvr.it/3jD85s #mlb #hbt

  15. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    This’ll be fun!: ?

    @Deadspin Madison Square Garden has 10 years to get out before NYC knocks it down: http://deadsp.in/A5HIdYb

  16. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    What I don’t get, is why the Yankee reaction isn’t “great news, go see the team doctor again and let’s see how soon we can get you out there”. If that was the reaction, there’s no story. Now, you can’t help but wonder if fielding the best team is the Yankee’s highest priority.

  17. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    “What I don’t get, is why the Yankee reaction isn’t “great news, go see the team doctor again and let’s see how soon we can get you out there”. If that was the reaction, there’s no story. Now, you can’t help but wonder if fielding the best team is the Yankee’s highest priority.”

    of course it’s not…..saving face and getting under the cap are the highest priorities these days.

  18. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    A friend of mine called me last night and her first words were this, ‘When did the Yankees become the Mets? This should be dealt with in-house. This is unbecoming.’

  19. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 9:21 am
    What I don’t get, is why the Yankee reaction isn’t “great news, go see the team doctor again and let’s see how soon we can get you out there”. If that was the reaction, there’s no story. Now, you can’t help but wonder if fielding the best team is the Yankee’s highest priority.
    =================================================

    Sometimes – as is here – it’s more complicated than the fans are aware of.

    I’m guessing the multiple dynamics here are quite complicated (IMHO).

  20. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    YES Network ?@YESNetwork 5m
    Toyota convo: If you were in charge of a team’s farewell gift to Mariano Rivera what would you give him & why? Tag answers w/ #YankeesPrius!

    how about some offense?

  21. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Blake-

    I don’t see it that way.

    I see them waiting for the tow truck.

    With as fast as they appear ready to slide out of contention you’d expect a much greater sense of urgency.

    It may be going on behind the scenes. But they better get a move on. Actually several.

    Because they are on the edge of a cliff hanging on by one hand like Stallone in “Cliffhanger”.

    And it’s a long way down till next Spring.

    ;)

  22. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I think the Yankees care about winning still…..but only as a means to get people to come to the stadium and make money. Hal is running the Yankees like one of his hotels…..meaning that it’s about profit margins….some hotels are about being exceptional in addition to turning profit…..most hotels are strictly about turning profit. The Yankees used to be the Ritz……Hal is turning them into a Holiday Inn…..

  23. MG July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 9:21 am
    What I don’t get, is why the Yankee reaction isn’t “great news, go see the team doctor again and let’s see how soon we can get you out there”. If that was the reaction, there’s no story. Now, you can’t help but wonder if fielding the best team is the Yankee’s highest priority.
    =================================================

    Sometimes – as is here – it’s more complicated than the fans are aware of.

    I’m guessing the multiple dynamics here are quite complicated (IMHO).
    —————–
    I haven’t given this much thought (and won’t) but it’s possible that MLB has promised the Yankees that if they keep Arod from playing until the suspensions are decided that the Yankees will get out from under that contract both financially and for luxury tax purposes.

    This is just speculation but the amount of bs back and forth has to indicate something out of the ordinary to bring out these types of responses.

  24. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    MTU,

    if they keep the status quo then the Yankees will be a last place team next year……

  25. jacksquat July 25th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    And if his quad really is fine, and he really does think the Yankees aren’t willing to put him on the field, why not play through last weekend and call their bluff?

    He said he felt a strain in his quad and thought he should take this past Sunday and Monday off. The Yankees reaction was to send him for an MRI and he is still not playing through Wednesday. So I would guess what he is “trying to do” is say he is healthy and the Yankees are exaggerating his injury because they don’t want him on the team.

  26. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    how about some offense?

    ————–

    LOL!

    A chance to finish off a playoff game is at the top of my list.

    It actually makes me sick to my stomach to imagine Mo not getting to sniff October in his final season in pinstripes.

    7 games back with about 9 weeks of baseball to go. We have to win today. We need to find a way to beat the Rays in the next series, and we need to at least split with the Dodgers in the 2 game set we have. We could lost the series against the Rays and still finish .500 but it’d be nice to be a couple games above that mark in July.

  27. Doreen July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Re: Penn Station. After looking at the photographs, I can’t believe they demolished that building! They will never be able to replicate that.

  28. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Message to Hal and Cashman.

    Get a move on. Your season is slipping away.

    ;)

  29. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I’m really looking forward to the Arod decision and hope it’s 150 games, rest of this year and two/thirds of next years games..this should end his career

  30. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    It could be that Arod is fighting the suspension this year because his salary is higher this year than it will be next year (by $3 million). I guess when you’re talking about $20+ million dollars it seems marginal, but it could be a factor.

    Braun actually makes more money next year than he did this year… which could be why he was more than happy to take the 65 game suspension now.

  31. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Doreen July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Re: Penn Station. After looking at the photographs, I can’t believe they demolished that building! They will never be able to replicate that.

    ——————

    It’s incredible, isn’t it? That building was a masterpiece.

  32. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Shame-

    With the O the way it is you are asking the Team to be like Sisyphus.

    It cannot be done w/o significant offensive help.

  33. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:32 am
    Message to Hal and Cashman.

    Get a move on. Your season is slipping away.
    ————————————————
    not much they can really do…what they could trade won’t bring much back

  34. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    If Arod does appeal…..I wonder how long that’ll drag out. Alex would probably hope the rest of the season but that’s really the worst outcome for the Yankees…..for him to come back and then go through an appeal process and then get suspended a month from now. The Yankees need to know what they are going to have going forward…..it’d be tough to count on somebody that could be suspended at any moment……..it’s all just the strangest thing and hopefully it’ll be over soon.

  35. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Can someone outline the rules regarding JR? If they call him up now, is it playing time or when they call him up that determines if we lose an arb year??

    We need more production at C.

  36. pat July 25th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    What I don’t get, is why the Yankee reaction isn’t “great news,

    IMO, because everyone is playing a big game of chicken.

    Yankees are slow playing hoping they don’t have to pay the contract either through MLB or insurance taking care of it.

    MLB is threatening life to get Alex to agree to less so they can pronounce victory and not take the chance of losing on appeal and blowing up the JDA

    Alex is doing his best to tick off the Yankees so they throw up their hands and pay him to make him go away.

  37. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Cape Cod week from tomorrow….and will catch a few Cape Cod league games

  38. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    They demolished Penn Station ?

    Why and when ?

    You’re right. It was an architectural masterpiece and an important part of NY history.

    :(

  39. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    MG July 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am
    UpState July 25th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 9:21 am
    What I don’t get, is why the Yankee reaction isn’t “great news, go see the team doctor again and let’s see how soon we can get you out there”. If that was the reaction, there’s no story. Now, you can’t help but wonder if fielding the best team is the Yankee’s highest priority.
    =================================================

    Sometimes – as is here – it’s more complicated than the fans are aware of.

    I’m guessing the multiple dynamics here are quite complicated (IMHO).
    —————–
    I haven’t given this much thought (and won’t) but it’s possible that MLB has promised the Yankees that if they keep Arod from playing until the suspensions are decided that the Yankees will get out from under that contract both financially and for luxury tax purposes.

    This is just speculation but the amount of bs back and forth has to indicate something out of the ordinary to bring out these types of responses.
    ============================================

    Hadn’t thought of the ‘deal-making’ possibility with MLB to actually benefit the Yankees – it’s been a lifetime of MLB being pretty much anti-Yankee with rulings and decisions…..(as long as they still were a national attraction)….thus your thought on why MLB would actually try to help the Yankees with an “A-Rod Solution”…. to make sure a ‘healthy NYY team equates to a healthy MLB’

    Strange balances.

  40. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Joeman-

    Sorry but I just don’t buy that one.

    ;)

  41. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    am I off base saying 150 games for Arod will end his career

  42. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    oe Girardi-Dustin Pedroia pic.twitter.com/zF2Z5alY7q” Haha lmfao!!

    funny

  43. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Mark McGwire one of the biggest steroid users to ever come down the pike is now a Pro hitting coach.

    Apparently there can be life after steroids and in some cases the shame associated seems very temporary.

  44. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    “am I off base saying 150 games for Arod will end his career”

    well 150 games would essentially make it so that he couldn’t play until around the all star break next season……so that’s nearly 2 calender years of not playing at age 39. It would be extremely difficult for him to come back and be any good at all IMO…..but I guess it would all depend on if he wanted to and more importantly if anybody would let him. My guess is if he gets suspended for that long that the Yankees might just release him if they have no other option to move him…….

    Remember….Barry Bonds was a way better player than Arod currently is when he got excommunicated from baseball…….

  45. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    am I off base saying 150 games for Arod will end his career

    —————–

    I think so.. If the suspension was handed down right now he’d be able to play by next year’s ASB.

  46. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Bob Nightengale ?@BNightengale 3m
    Dustin Pedroia on his new $110M deal with #RedSox: “I’m not here to set markets. I’m here to win more games than the other second basemen.”

    ugh

  47. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    “I think so.. If the suspension was handed down right now he’d be able to play by next year’s ASB.”

    true but that’s almost 2 full years without playin in the big leagues..;….it’d be tough and would largely depend on Alex.

  48. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Joeman-

    They’d better start trying harder.

    ;)

  49. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Mark McGwire one of the biggest steroid users to ever come down the pike is now a Pro hitting coach.

    Apparently there can be life after steroids and in some cases the shame associated seems very temporary.

    ————————

    IMO, this is exactly why MLB needs to tread carefully with Alex. He’s probably going to be blackballed from MLB forever no matter what the outcome of this is. I don’t think you’ll ever see him work for an MLB team again. Any future he had in the game might be nothing more than vapor at this point…. taking away his future earnings will only assure that he’ll fight this anyway possible so he can collect on every dime of his current contract.

  50. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Joeman-

    Only way A-Rod is going away is with at least another 50 Mil in his bank account.

  51. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Barry Bonds was still a monster when he was excommunicated. He had to be banished.

    I believe Giants fans still love him.

    A-Rod has endeared himself to very few. I don’t see how he has a life after these scandals without some serious changes and mea culpas on his part. It’s possible, but it seems unlikely.

  52. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Morning all —–

    Late start for me today… I hate breakfast meetings!

    If alex got 150 he would still have 3 1/2 years and $ 70 M + left on his contract so his career wouldn’t be over, but his productivity might be gone.

    Unless MLB hands down a life sentence, the Yanks have to assume he will be an average DH that’s grossly overpaid for those 3 1/2 seasons.

    Either way, 3B might be the highest priority of the off-season.

  53. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Shame-

    So you think he gets the Pete Rose treatment ? Wow.

    He’s not gonna go there quietly.

    That’s why I said a deal is in everyone’s best interest.

  54. pat July 25th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    If he showed up on game 151 and said I’m good to go, they don’t have to play him but do have to pay him.

    That’s why I asked about being able to play independent league if suspended. If Alex played independent league for a year and played well, would the Yankees pay him off rather than play him? Would another team take a chance on him for minimum if the Yankees DFA him?

  55. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    86-

    McGwire was far from an angel and he’s now a pro hitting coach.

    He was a heap big liar and cheat too.

  56. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    A-Rod could also make a mint in Japan.

  57. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    MTU – I don’t think he’ll be banned officially like Pete. But I don’t think he’ll be able to find a job in MLB the way other former users have. Which is why this battle is going to be the most important thing to Alex. This contract is his last payday.

  58. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    randyhater July 25th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    This is all smoke from A-Fraud and his camp. They know the big smackdown is coming and one of their arguments will be that MLB is using Biogenis as a pretext to help the Yanks get out from under his bloated contract. He’s looking for ways to show that the team is acting in bad faith and stirring the pot on this is one way.

    ___________

    This is obvious to anyone who is not so invested in this man that they’re feeling too emotional to recognize the obvious.

  59. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    It is kind of amazing about McGwire… the guy didn’t just lie to baseball, the fans, the media, etc.. he lied to Congress. But by all means, put him in charge of the development of young hitters.

    This is why I can’t be on MLBs side.. I can’t take them seriously. They take the word hypocrite and create a whole new level of absurdity for it.

  60. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Shame-

    I have no idea how this soap opera will play out but IMO a knock down drag out battle serves no one well.

    I’ve said that over and over. A deal should be struck, and the sooner the better.

  61. blake July 25th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Barry Bonds had a .480 OBP his last year and nobody would sign him…..that’s kinda incredible when you think about it.

  62. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Shame-

    Selective morality is very hard to take and/or justify.

    They both cheated and lied in big ways but A-rod is a pariah and McGwire has an MLB job.

    ;)

  63. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    For Phil Hughes I’d want a package centered on any one of the following:

    McCann

    Prado

    Peraza

    The Yankees need help at C, 3B and SS so it’s a tough decision. I think it comes down to the other GM in the negotiation. Out of those 3 I’d say McCann is least likely to be dealt but you never know. Other players could be included on our end. If it’s between Peraza and Prado I think you have to take the sure thing. Peraza is very young. Plus Prado helps this year and in the future. It would depend on how much money the owners are willing to pay.

  64. jpb173 July 25th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    In my humble opinion, the sooner that the Yankees separate Alex Rodriguez the better it will be.

    The dynasty which began in the mid-1990′s is coming to an end as Rivera, Pettite and Jeter retire. The Yankees will have to rebuild with youth and would be better off if ARod were not around to infect the young players as they come up.

    The truth of the matter is that ARod is a mercenary…not a real Yankee. He has no commitment to the team or the team’s legacy. I’d like to see the Yankees be cleared of his contractual responsibility (including the AAV) but if it means keeping him around then they need to divorce him now and make a settlement.

  65. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    If Cashman called up the Braves and offered Hughes for Peraza they might do it…..Peraza is 19 and in A ball and years away……he’s not a top prospect yet….he only has the potential to become one and the braves are pretty darn set at SS. I think Cashman is trying to get big league help for now for Hughes though……which is a poor decision given the state of the franchise……I think in the end they’ll either keep Hughes or trade him for a marginal upgrade old bat type guy

  66. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Shame-

    The irony of it all is , other things aside, I think a guy like A-Rod would make a better hitting coach than a guy like McGwire.

    A-rod is savant about hitting and he might make a great teacher but he’ll likely never get the same treatment McGwire got for a similar offense.

    He’ll get more of the Pete Rose treatment.

    ;)

  67. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Here’s my prediction:

    1. MLB suspends Alex for one full year. He appeals, plays some in August-September hitting 12 HR and then loses his appeal sometime this winter.

    2. Alex sits out the 2014 season, but assembles an All-Star team of suspended players to play about 70 summer independent league games. Braun is named MVP and Matt Kemp demands the trophy.

    3. Alex returns to the Yankees in 2015 and they insist he wears a bright red “A” on his uniform. He is also told to leave his glove at home ala: Travis Hafner. He hits .277 with 26 HR and is named comeback player of the year. Matt Kemp demands the trophy.

    4. Alex finishes his career with 701 HR. The Yanks recognize his accomplishment with a shadow box in monument park that includes two syringes and a bottle of clear. Alex then buys into the Miami Marlins.

  68. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:00 am
    For Phil Hughes I’d want a package centered on any one of the following:

    McCann

    Prado

    Peraza

    The Yankees need help at C, 3B and SS so it’s a tough decision. I think it comes down to the other GM in the negotiation. Out of those 3 I’d say McCann is least likely to be dealt but you never know. Other players could be included on our end. If it’s between Peraza and Prado I think you have to take the sure thing. Peraza is very young. Plus Prado helps this year and in the future. It would depend on how much money the owners are willing to pay.
    —————————-
    don’t know if I’m reading this right..Pardo I don’t think plays for the Braves

  69. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    I think Hughes commands a prospect comparable to Olt. I read (I think it was Sherman’s column) that the Yankees want to get a long term piece for Hughes. The mention of JR Murphy with Hughes/Joba makes me think they’re wanting a catcher and could be posturing about the long-term thing to remind the Braves McCann is a rental and his price should reflect that. But of course they could sign McCann long term before he declares for FA like they did with CC. Really though, I’d take McCann, Prado or Peraza. They all have their pluses and minuses. Again, it comes down to the other GM. I think the Yankees are more than willing to deal Hughes from our surplus of pitching. When it came out the Yankees are “aggressively pushing” Hughes and Joba, that sealed it for me. You almost never see that coming out of our camp.

  70. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Joeman,

    Those 3 players would individually be the center of 3 separate packages, not packaged together. I know Prado is a D-back.

  71. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    5. Alex celebrity boxes Jose Canseco….loses by disqualification due to hair pulling.

  72. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Buster-

    If they aren’t shopping Phil and Joba aggressively they should be.

    Joba should just about be a freebie. He has little to no value at this time.

    He is taking up too much space; too much oxygen; and too much food.

  73. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    If Cashman traded Hughes for Peraza then I would have hope that at least the organization has a clue…..I’m expecting they trade him for old guy hitter x or not at all..

  74. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    Joeman,

    Those 3 players would individually be the center of 3 separate packages, not packaged together. I know Prado is a D-back.

    ———————————————-
    I wanted Pardo here last year…

  75. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Imagine if this was the kind of production we were getting from the C spot: .271 .387 .372 .759

    Or this: .283 .314 .444 .758

    Don’t know what we were thinking, not trading absolutely nothing for Jaso. Pierzynski on a one year deal for half of what Youk made would have also been a good option to act on.

  76. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    6. Alex changes his name to Mega Ultraman….buys a private island, paints faces on all the coconuts and pretends to save them from the evil Dr. Selig.

  77. Doreen July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    joeman,

    Where on the Cape?

    We’re also taking the trip up and taking in a Cape Cod League game or two.

  78. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    The Snakes are not giving up Prado when they traded JU to get him.

    That means they wound up with Phil Hughes for Justin Upton and Martin Prado.

    That my friends constitutes a colossal failure of mgmnt.

  79. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Why would the Yankees trade for Don Pardo? They have an announcer.

    Blake — Excellent addition

  80. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Blake,

    I don’t know how they view Peraza because he’s nowhere near major league ready. He’s obviously worth more than a draft pick though. Garza brought back Olt. I’d want someone more major league ready and again the Yankees want a long term piece for Hughes. They can get the old guy hitter x you’re talking about for cash alone like they did with Wells and could do with Soriano. Not sure if your fear is just general discontent or if you really truly fear that. Nobody is trading Hughes for Soriano immediately after Garza brought back Olt, not even Brian Cashman, as much as you may dislike him. Garza and Hughes are basically the same pitcher in the NL. Another thing with Peraza is how the Yankees view Eduardo Nunez. And again, the playoffs matter so you kind of want to get a guy who is ready or a player you can somehow keep long term. If a Hughes rental brings back another rental like McCann you want to make sure you don’t have to give up too much in addition because there’s a chance McCann does not sign. There’s also a chance Hughes does not sign with the Braves though. Heck there’s a chance Hughes goes back to NY and McCann goes back to ATL. The risk is equal on both sides.

  81. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    And I should say there’s also a risk that if the Braves pass on Hughes and the Yankees pass on McCann at the deadline, neither team is able to sign their target player in free agency when they assumed he could be obtained for cash alone. Rental for rental involves equal risk for all parties. But my sticking point would by – how much more do you want along with Hughes? Murphy and Betances? Gary Sanchez and Jose Ramirez? Be fair.

  82. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    “Not sure if your fear is just general discontent or if you really truly fear that. ”

    it’s both…..I think the Yankees will slog along and try to make the playoffs this year and forfeit the opportunity to trade some assets for the future. I agree Hughes and Garza are close to the same pitcher in a neutral environment but they aren’t viewed that way. Garza is viewed at the better guy and he probably is a little bit…..he’s also older and more injury prone. You put Hughes in Dodger stadium and he’s going to beat Garza’s number with him in Texas I bet.

  83. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Shame-

    You know where I stood on both of those.

    ;)

  84. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Jose Peraza

    Atlanta Organizational Rank: 18
    SS
    Age: 19 (04/30/1994)
    R/R…. 6′ 0″, 165
    ATLScouting Grades* (present/future):
    Hit: 4/6 | Power: 2/3 | Run: 7/7 | Arm: 4/5 | Field: 5/5 | Overall: 4/5

    Peraza’s United States debut in 2012 was a success as the speedy infielder played at two levels and flashed some exciting skills.
    Signed out of Venezuela for $350,000 in 2010, Peraza’s best tool is his plus speed and he knows how to use it on the bases.
    It also gives him good range at short and he should be able to stay there long-term, though he’ll need to find a level of consistency defensively.
    Peraza makes consistent contact and can send the ball to all fields, rarely striking out, albeit without much power.
    He’ll still be a teenager for the entire 2013 season, so patience is the key, with a dynamic leadoff type at a premium position the potential end result.

    (props to MLB)

  85. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Why would the Braves trade McCann when they have a comfortable lead in the division?

    They’ll deal prospects for a starter and/or a LH reliever…. they’re not weakening the MLB roster at this point.

  86. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Doreen July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am
    joeman,

    Where on the Cape?

    We’re also taking the trip up and taking in a Cape Cod League game or two.

    —————————-
    Brewster..at the Brewster Green Resort

  87. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Blake-

    IMO Hughes is being undervalued here.

    I agree with you.

  88. Doreen July 25th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Joeman -

    We’re gonna be seeing the Orleans Cardinals. :)

    Have fun!

  89. flatbush fan July 25th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    The Yankees have to lance this boil. Reporters say the players are getting very weary of Arod’s circus.

    Stick him at 3b tomorrow night and bat him 4th. Then after he goes 0-5 and shows he has no range, stick him in the lineup at 5th as DH the next night. Then after he goes 0-5 DH him and bat him 6th the next day.

    He will start complaining about his quad or intercostal or sports hernia before he finds himself batting 9th. Then he’ll go on the dl till he’s suspended and we’ll never see him on a ballfield again.

    Anybody that thinks he’s gonna help more with his dead bat and zero range plus the circus taking over the clubhouse is as clueless as the aroider.

  90. flatbush fan July 25th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    There is ZERO chance the braves trade Mc Cann on the verge of a WS run.

  91. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    joeman July 25th, 2013 at 10:23 am
    Doreen July 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am
    joeman,

    Where on the Cape?

    We’re also taking the trip up and taking in a Cape Cod League game or two.

    —————————-

    ————————–
    I believe the playoffs start on Aug 5th or 6th

  92. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    The Braves aren’t trading McCann…..

  93. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    86,

    The only reason why the Braves would remove a major league player from their roster is the same reason why the Yankees would, if they have a major league replacement. The Yankees have Pineda, Phelps, Warren, Nuno to fill out the back of the rotation in Hughes’ absence. The Braves have Gattis to fill in for McCann. Both teams would be trading from a surplus to fill a need. And why would you assume the Braves want to spend big money on McCann in the off season? What if they prefer to Hughes that money to lock up a pitcher long term?

  94. pkyankfan69 July 25th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Stick him at 3b tomorrow night and bat him 4th. Then after he goes 0-5 and shows he has no range, stick him in the lineup at 5th as DH the next night. Then after he goes 0-5 DH him and bat him 6th the next day.
    ————————————–
    Arod could be the new long reliever for when we are down 5 runs or more… He pitches till the game is over no matter how many runs he gives up.

  95. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Seems like the only splash the Yankees are ready to make is Hal getting into his Jacuzzi.

    Or dropping another ice cube into his Martini at the club.

    ;)

  96. flatbush fan July 25th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Gattis just spent a month on the DL. He’s a rookie. The Braves, a pitching-first organization aren’t going to go in to the PS with a rookie catcher.

    Just cross him off your lists.

  97. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    I have a hard time justifying Peraza when Garza brought back Olt. Peraza is so far away. He’s a reach. You don’t trade a potential 2 starter (in the NL) in the heat of a pennant rice for anything less than a guy who’s pretty much guaranteed to make it in the major leagues.

  98. pkyankfan69 July 25th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Also, from his cannonballs off one of his many new Yachts
    (although this might be too cool for Hal)

  99. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Buster-

    I’m on your bandwagon. Maybe as a secondary piece.

  100. Frankg July 25th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Heard this Braves OF’s name as trade candidate with Yankees, possibly Hughes? Logan?

    JOEY TERDOSLAVICH

    http://www.baseball-reference......rdos001jos

  101. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    The Diamondbacks need pitching because the Dodgers are surging.

    The Halos need help.

    Many Teams need relief help.

    There have to be deals to be made.

    If one doesn’t get done for Hughes it’s either because the Yankees don’t want to, or they simply aren’t trying hard enough.

  102. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    I don’t want any guy whose name begins with “Terd”.

    :)

  103. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    And the Braves just lost Hudson.

    Hughes value has to have risen.

    We have 3 strong right-handed cost controlled relievers in Kelley, Claiborne, and Betances.

    Pick one and trade him. Throw Joba in for nothing.

  104. astrocityfan July 25th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Frank,
    id love to get that guy just to see if the vleacher creatures could chant his name!

  105. pat July 25th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    adamdberry
    A-Rod has arrived, and we just got our first drive-by “Yankees suck!” Exciting couple minutes here on the sidewalk stakeout.

    Wonder if Alex or a someone else driving by said that. :wink:

  106. pkyankfan69 July 25th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:37 am
    The Diamondbacks need pitching because the Dodgers are surging.
    —————————–
    Hughes for Archie Bradley… We can dream, can’t we? hehe

  107. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Ok so maybe TERD is more projectable. Maybe they would do it for TERD and Peraza.

  108. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    How bout seeing what the Mutts want for Marlon Byrd ?

    The Cubs for Navarro ?

    Is it possible that Cashman now “overvalues” our trade pieces ?

    Maybe he is the one being unreasonable ?

  109. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    “I have a hard time justifying Peraza when Garza brought back Olt. Peraza is so far away. He’s a reach. You don’t trade a potential 2 starter (in the NL) in the heat of a pennant rice for anything less than a guy who’s pretty much guaranteed to make it in the major leagues.”

    Olt isn’t without risk…..he’s like 25 year’s old and was hitting .213 in AAA before he was traded. Again Garza is viewed as a better pitcher than Hughes…..whether he is or not….perception is what determines value.

  110. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    flatbush fan July 25th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Gattis just spent a month on the DL. He’s a rookie. The Braves, a pitching-first organization aren’t going to go in to the PS with a rookie catcher.

    Just cross him off your lists.

    ________

    Seems you are pretty convinced the Braves are committed to McCann. Does that mean you’re equally convinced they’re open to dealing Gattis?

  111. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Jesus —

    The Braves have a big lead in their division. They can get a starter for prospects and make a W.S. run. Dumping McCann makes no sense with their record.

    Contenders don’t dump impending FA they don’t think they can sign. They go for it.

    The Yanks still haven’t shown any indication they’ll trade off pieces for future assets. They still think they have a shot at post-season since they’re just 3 1/2 out of the wild card.

  112. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    69-

    I think the D’backs might have many guys who are worth trying to obtain.

    Maybe not ML level but close. Certainly close enough to help next year.

  113. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    The Braves have a big lead but if they were in the NL central they’d be in 4th place right now…..they realize the only reason they have a lead is because their division is horrendous…..they are the only team above .500 in the east……they have holes and if they want to make a run they will try to fill them.

  114. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    86,

    That depends on if the Yankees think they can still contend with Phelps instead of Hughes.

  115. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    By the way… Randy Ruiz homered again last night. If only the Yanks needed RH power.

  116. flatbush fan July 25th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    i dont see the braves trading gattis. bj upton has sucked all year and is on the dl, justin upton is just off the dl and has sucked for 2 months.

    Gattis is their LF and b/u catcher, and catcher of the future if they dont sign mc cann.

    I can’t see the Braves moving either catcher.

  117. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    86-

    They can still win w/o Hughes.

    They have Phelps, Pineda, Nuno, and Warren.

    Some combo of those should be able to provide #4/5 level production for the remainder of the season.

  118. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    The Yanks seem less interested in making the wild card than they do in having a spat with ARod.

    At least the ARod brouhaha is more interesting than the product they are putting on the field.

  119. flatbush fan July 25th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Besides Phelps, the Yankees have some kid at AAA throwing up great numbers, some guy they got in a minor league trade for a b/u catcher i think…

  120. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Hughes should be trade bait.

    It makes sense.

  121. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    MTU,

    Their position would be different if they were trading Hughes for future assets and didn’t have Phelps, Pineda, Nuno and Warren to take the ball.

  122. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    A couple of interesting AAA players for Atlanta are:

    Todd Cunningham, switch hitting OF with some speed, some power

    Ryan Buchter, LH reliever with lots of strikeouts and lots of walks

  123. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    What about this TERD guy and Peraza? Seems fair for Hughes.

  124. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    WYH-

    I hope their is greater sense of urgency in the background than is being shown on the surface.

    They can’t afford to let themselves slip much further IMO. And that’s just to try for a WC spot.

    It’s almost impossible to win games w/o an O.

  125. Mike in Harrisburg July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Forget about getting McCann or Gattis. Those aren’t guys buyers give up. I think Arizona matches up much better with us. They have quite a few more “on the cusp” type guys I’d love to see come over. At this point I’d be very happy getting Prado and either Chris Owings (#4 Ari prospect, SS) or Matt Davidson (#2 prospect, 3B) for Phil Hughes and Joba/prospects.

  126. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    If they trade Prado it’s because they have Davidson.

    But I like Prado with Owings.

  127. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    The Snakes are not trading Prado.

    It would make Towers look like a fool of cosmic proportions.

    Justin Upton and Prado for Hughes.

    Don’t think so.

  128. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    It is kind of amazing about McGwire… the guy didn’t just lie to baseball, the fans, the media, etc.. he lied to Congress. But by all means, put him in charge of the development of young hitters.

    This is why I can’t be on MLBs side.. I can’t take them seriously. They take the word hypocrite and create a whole new level of absurdity for it.
    ———

    Well it’s hardly MLB’s fault that teams want McGwire as their hitting coach. It’s also an era issue. McGwire used at the height of steroids when there were no punishments. MLB set the precedent that you will now be punished for steroid use, and still players used. Just because they change policies doesn’t mean they’re hypocrites.

    Meanwhile, I don’t think A-Rod could get a job. Who are his allies? He’s alienating himself.

  129. Mike in Harrisburg July 25th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    And to be perfectly honest I think Hughes and Joba are both prime candidates for “change of scenery” success you see sometimes. If I were a west coast team in need of pitching I would be salivating over the prospects of a refreshed Joba. It would be pretty interesting to see the big three of Hughes, Joba and IPK reunited out in the desert. I wonder if it would help IPK regain some form as well.

  130. eb03 July 25th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    stupid orioles lost last night. otherwise, a good night. rangers, rays, oakland win, yanks, red sox lose.

  131. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Towers and his employers already look like a fools for giving Prado 11 million.

  132. blake July 25th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Jayson Stark ?@jaysonst 4m
    An exec who watched Ervin Santana last night says “I’d take him over Garza. Hit 95-96 a lot. Slider was 85-86. And commanding everything”

  133. 86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    A-rod will get a personnel position with the Marlins by purchasing a minority interest in the team. I don’t think MLB has to approve minority ownership, just controlling ownership.

  134. Frankg July 25th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    86w183 July 25th, 2013 at 10:48 am
    By the way… Randy Ruiz homered again last night. If only the Yanks needed RH power.

    Wait around long enough, and Overbay will get hurt, and they might bring up someone who can hit HRs. He’s no worse than Soriano, and much cheaper.

    Maybe it’s Ruiz’ PED history, which probably made us pass on Marlon Byrd.

  135. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    I think if Towers made those moves it should be grounds for dismissal.

    It would be a little like the poor deal the Braves made to get Tex.

    Who they quickly lost anyway. That one was one of the dumber trades in history too.

    Andrus, Feliz, etc. Not too shabby for Texas.

  136. blake July 25th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “Towers and his employers already look like a fools for giving Prado 11 million.”

    it was a dumb trade from the start…..the traded Justin Upton for a rental player and then felt pressured to extend them……that said…..Prado is better than he’s played……

  137. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Buster-

    Then they can’t afford to compound the mistake can they ?

    ;)

  138. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    That’s right MTU. It looks like they will have to undue it.

  139. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Mike in Harrisburg July 25th, 2013 at 10:53 am
    Forget about getting McCann or Gattis. Those aren’t guys buyers give up. I think Arizona matches up much better with us. They have quite a few more “on the cusp” type guys I’d love to see come over. At this point I’d be very happy getting Prado and either Chris Owings (#4 Ari prospect, SS) or Matt Davidson (#2 prospect, 3B) for Phil Hughes and Joba/prospects.

    ——————————————————————-

    Prado & Owings
    Prado & Davidson
    Owings & Davidson

    …..like any combo….

    Owings blocked by Didi Gregorius (23 YO)

    Davidson blocked for a while by (29 YO) Prado

  140. Frankg July 25th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    It’s really hard to predict what a player will do in the future. I remember a month ago, people on this blog wanted to trade Nova. In retrospect, that would not have been a good idea.

    A few months ago, the great 3B Chase Headley was the answer. He is now hitting .236 .335(OBP) .367 (SLUG) .702 (OPS).

  141. incident_57 July 25th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    From the Daily News:

    ““Guys are just tired of it,” the player said. “The media circus that’s revolving around Alex is insane — and we haven’t even seen him. It just keeps going. It’s like a carousel that just keeps going around and around and around. At some point, it has to stop.”

    Any speculation on who this player might be? I can’t see Jeter saying this to a reporter. I’d be surprised if a new guy would say this. Cano, Mo, CC all love Alex. Tex isn’t around. Pettitte wouldn’t say this, given his own PED past. Thoughts?

  142. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    sorry….Prado & Davidson….not a smart or even reasonable move

  143. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Buster-

    Not by accepting Hughes as the price.

    That would just compound the problem IMO.

  144. Jesus Bustero July 25th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Justin Upton is .251 .345 .444 .789.

    He makes 10 M.

    Next year he makes 14 M.

    The final year of his contract he makes 14.5 M

    If he has over 150K and an OPS below 800 at that point, doesn’t seem like the best way to spend money honestly. I know there is potential but reality seems to be setting in.

  145. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Buster-

    Besides that Prado has a large multi-year contract and Hal would never approve it.

    The D’backs would never eat enough of it to make it work.

  146. mick July 25th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Most of these guys are overpaid and there is no need for it.
    Hal is just looking to depress the market and owners will be thanking him someday.

  147. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:09 am
    Buster-

    Besides that Prado has a large multi-year contract and Hal would never approve it.

    The D’backs would never eat enough of it to make it work.
    ================================================

    Correct – we temporarily lost sight of the 189

  148. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Is it bad that i love that pedroia quote about not setting markets and wanting to win more games than “the other second baseman’? Must be nice to have guys that take less money than they will get on the market to play for their current team.

    We all joke about pedroia and i love cano, but i wouldnt be upset if pedroia was on my team. He is Boston’s Derek Jeter, a bit more hyper and more injury prone but still…

  149. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Incident. I’d go with Gardner or Stewart.

  150. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Upstate-

    I’d like none or two or those near ML ready prospects you mentioned.

    A 3B and a SS.

    I’d toss in Hughes, Joba, and either Claiborne or Betances.

  151. joeman July 25th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    since Mia brought up the two young kids to play the OF could J. Ruggiano or
    L. Morrison or both be a option for the NYY in a trade

  152. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Id agree on randy ruiz except lillibridge was also hitting homeruns in aaa but no one expects him todo the same for us.

  153. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    sp: one. Not none. Duh.

  154. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Shame Spencer July 25th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    It is kind of amazing about McGwire… the guy didn’t just lie to baseball, the fans, the media, etc.. he lied to Congress. But by all means, put him in charge of the development of young hitters.

    This is why I can’t be on MLBs side.. I can’t take them seriously. They take the word hypocrite and create a whole new level of absurdity for it.
    ———

    Well it’s hardly MLB’s fault that teams want McGwire as their hitting coach. It’s also an era issue. McGwire used at the height of steroids when there were no punishments. MLB set the precedent that you will now be punished for steroid use, and still players used. Just because they change policies doesn’t mean they’re hypocrites.

    —————

    MLB teams wanting McGwire as their hitting coach is kinda irrelevant. MLB has the ultimate say there and they’ve let him be a coach. Which is fine, as far as I’m concerned.. but there is a little bit of a ‘wtf??’ that goes along with it when they’re so focused on eradicating the sport of cheats. McGwire was a part of the most embarrassing moment MLB has ever seen with those trials. I’m glad he cried crocodile tears and apologized and stuff but MLB talks out of both sides of it’s mouth sometimes.

    I still can’t get over that none of these guys from the Biogenesis case tested positive lol.. MLB’s drug testing program is a joke. Do they start testing for HGH next year?

  155. Mike in Harrisburg July 25th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    @joeman I believe the Yankees were scouting Ruggiano a couple weeks ago.

  156. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    I’d probably go Hughes for Moustakas from the Royals too.

    They could use more pitching and Gordon can return to play third.

    It would be a worthwhile risk because Moustakas is still young.

    A package deal of some sort might even be possible.

  157. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:13 am
    Upstate-

    I’d like none or two or those near ML ready prospects you mentioned.

    A 3B and a SS.

    I’d toss in Hughes, Joba, and either Claiborne or Betances.
    ==============================================

    Always a gamble – but I’d think it is a good move – Joba; gone is fine – wouldn’t like to send either Claiborne or Betances in the package – would look elsewhere in minors for alternatives

  158. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    “I still can’t get over that none of these guys from the Biogenesis case tested positive”

    I have real questions about how an arbitrator or court would view punishing a player who did not test positive more harshly than allowed for a player who did test positive. Despite the Braun plea deal, I don’t think that’s a slam dunk.

  159. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Send Chase Whitley then.

  160. bruceb July 25th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    97 degrees in Arlington today. Facing a lefty in Holland who gave up only two hits at Yankee Stadium last month. Knowing baseball, this could be the day to pile on the Yanks. Or am I just being foolish?

  161. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Or Kahnle or Burawa from AA.

  162. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Yankees would basically be in first or second place in the al central or the nl west. Even the al east they would be in the race. Says about the league where there are basically two competitive divisions out of 6.

    I think its time to do away with divisions.

    Just 15 teams pllaying each other equally, mix in the interleague, and best 5 in each make the playoffs.

    My idea for scheduling

    Each team plays their league

    Play each team in own league 8 times (14x 8 = 112)
    Play each team in other league 3 times (15x 3= 45)

    Thats 157 games
    Can stop there or mix in the extra 5 games somewhere.

    Though would anyone oppose 5 less games?
    Can make the wildcard best of 3.

  163. UpState July 25th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    ….Dear Chase:

    Good Luck & bring some Coppertone !

  164. blake July 25th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    “If he has over 150K and an OPS below 800 at that point, doesn’t seem like the best way to spend money honestly. I know there is potential but reality seems to be setting in.”

    he showed his potential at the start of the season…..he’s chasing a lot of bad pitches from the games I’ve seen. He could get locked in again and go off in the 2nd half so we’ll see…..the Braves really need him to.

  165. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    Why would the royals want hughes? They are looking to trade santana and they have the best starting pitching in the league. They arent competing this year so why take hughes?

  166. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Upstate-

    But he can leave his Vitamin D behind for life.

    ;)

  167. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Blake this is half joking but you know who else had a hot april en died off? Hafner, wells, overbay….. Re: justin uptons hot april.

  168. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 11:20 am
    “I still can’t get over that none of these guys from the Biogenesis case tested positive”

    I have real questions about how an arbitrator or court would view punishing a player who did not test positive more harshly than allowed for a player who did test positive. Despite the Braun plea deal, I don’t think that’s a slam dunk.
    ————

    Well, Braun DID test positive. The MLB just didn’t follow the proper logistical procedures.

    It’s a slam dunk for them because Braun vehemently denied using, but then took a suspension of over 50 games.

  169. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    “hey arent competing this year so why take hughes?”

    He’s runner-up to the most interesting man in the world.

  170. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Ac-

    I just checked. The Royals are 6th in the AL.

    Although many are tightly bunched.

  171. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    6th? In starting pitching or total pitching?

  172. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Total.

    Like I said. We have relief help to throw in w Hughes as well.

    Plenty of it.

    Maybe they have soured on Moustakas enough ?

  173. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    I wouldny mind moustakas.
    A young guy to rally behind.
    I like it…

  174. RadioKev July 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    The second wild card has really fouled up the trade markets. Too much indecision and inefficiency.

    I don’t see how the Yankees can trade Hughes and receive a major league ready player.

  175. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    The point I am really making is that there are Teams who need pitching.

    SP’s and relievers. There have to be some decent deals out there.

    The Braves just added to the list after last night.

  176. ac1 July 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Mtu the only question is why trade santana just to pick up hues

  177. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Kev-

    Because the needs are there in that area.

    And Hughes, even as a rental, is one of the better options remaining.

    Plus we have solid relief pitching to offer as part of it.

    That’s how.

    ;)

  178. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    ac-

    At this point everything is just rumors.

    Santana is also a FA after this year. Maybe they feel they can’t re-sign him.

    Swap a rental for a rental. Hughes is cheaper. Or maybe they are able to sign one of them.

    Anyway, they probably could use some good relief pitching too.

  179. MTU July 25th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    New post —–>

  180. comnsnse July 25th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Trade deadline Q&A. Tear yourselves away from the Arod follies for a moment and address the deadline.

    I keep reading about deals they should make but never see the results or even the rationale of why.

    Trade eligibles suggested here are Hughes, Joba, Cano, Gardner,Kuroda and CC, plus prospects.

    Four of the 6 are either planning retirement, apparently declining, not having good years or going to to be FA’s and might simply be rentals.

    Cano will require a very big contract and will be 31 when the next season is here.

    If CC is declining and both Andy and Hiroki retire and we ship out Hughes, who comprises the starting staff in 2014?

    More to the point given the above factors, i.e. our alleged assets are “tainted” in a manner of speaking and our prospects are not exactly screaming to be acquired based of current stats.

    Why should the team really do anything factoring in the wild card is likely to be out of reach given the play of both the O’s and the Rays? And this roster is not one player away from competing with either of those teams!

    The only moves distasteful though they may be to unrealistic fans and media flacks,is to suck hind teat for a few years and hope the system actually produces!

  181. David in Cal July 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    MTU — Thanks for the Amos and Andy reference. I watched that show in my youth. It was a well-done, funny show.


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