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Postgame notes: “It feels like old times”

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Brett Gardner, Alfonso Soriano

At this point, nothing that Derek Jeter does should surprise anyone. But despite the fact that we’ve seen it all before from The Captain, that didn’t stop plenty of jaws from dropping when he deposited the first pitch that he saw since coming off of the disabled list into the right field seats in Sunday’s much-needed 6-5 walk-off win over the Tampa Bay Rays.

“He’s a movie, is what he is,” manager Joe Girardi said. “You think about his 3,000th hit and how he did that. What he did today; we hadn’t hit a home run since the All-Star break, and we hadn’t hit a right-handed home run in months. For him to come out and do that in his first at-bat, he’s a movie.”

Jeter’s career has been like one big fairy tale, and he added another chapter today. The lack of the long ball has plagued the Yankees all season, and the desperation was reaching a boiling point as they were trying to avoid a sweep against the first-place team in the AL East.

You’ve probably seen the numbers at this point, but they’re worth repeating. It had been nine games since the Yankees last homer, 28 since their last homer from a right-handed batter and they had just two home runs from the shortstop position all season. They came into today’s game ranked 14th out of 15 teams in the American League in total homers, but their whole outlook changed with one swing of the bat.

Jeter homered in the first, Alfonso Soriano homered in the third, and then Soriano provided the final blow with a walk-off single in the ninth.

“When I see Mariano pitch and Jeter hit and me, it feels like old times,” Soriano said. “It’s special to play with those guys because they’re future Hall of Famers.”

It sure was a good day for two guys who the Yankees are hoping will provide this lineup with a huge lift over the next two months, and now we’ll see if this momentum carries over.

“It was fun. I’m tired. That wasn’t a quick game by any stretch of the imagination, but it was fun. I haven’t played short in quite some time here,” Jeter said. “I’ve worked hard to try and get back on the field, and I’m happy that today we were able to win a game and it was uneventful on the physical side.”

Derek Jeter• Trust me, Jeter did not want the postgame attention focused on him (he was quick to point out that “this is Matsui’s day”), and his answers were all typical Jeter. He was asked if at any point he’s able to appreciate his knack for the big moment, but of course, he wasn’t taking the bait. “Maybe when the season is over, but I really try not to think about it,” he said. “I try to do whatever I can to help our team win. Even if I didn’t hit a home run, if we won this game, I’d feel the same.”

• While Jeter wasn’t going to focus on his homer — which clearly meant a lot more to this team than just the one-run that it put on the board — others were in awe. “I talked about his presence. His presence just makes it different. It’s hard to put your finger on exactly why, but he’s a winner is the bottom line to me,” Girardi said. “It’s a player that has a real grasp of what is expected of him, and that one guy can’t do too much. You have to just do your part. When you’re in the business of trying to do too much, you usually don’t do much of anything. I think he understands that as well as anyone.”

• When Jeter returned for just one game on July 11, he swung on the first pitch and hit an infield single. He had said after the game that he planned on swinging at the first pitch, and was asked if he had the same approach today. “What was I thinking? Swing, like I always think,” he said. “I just wanted to get a pitch to hit, and fortunately, it was a fastball that was up.”

• Jeter’s homer coming off of lefty Matt Moore made it especially significant. The Yankees struggles against lefties have been well-documented this season, but Jeter and Soriano are two guys who are expected to change that. Soriano’s homer also came off of Moore. “We talked about trying to get some right-handed bats here because, against lefties, at times we’ve run out five and six left-handed (batters),” Girardi said. “You get two that have had a lot of success off of lefties, and it changes your lineup.”

Ichiro Suzuki• Soriano and Ichiro each finished with four hits apiece, as the Yankees’ three 37-plus year olds (including Jeter) combined to go 10 for 13 with four runs scored and five RBI. The Yanks are clearly dealing with a lot of aging players, and they’ll need them to maintain this kind of production in order to make a real playoff push. “It’s important because of who we’re playing,” Girardi said. “Second half, we’ve played a lot of tough teams and been in a lot of games, but we’ve come up short a little bit. We lose yesterday 1-0, and to be able to win one like that is important; especially going into a road trip like this.”

• A hot topic before the game was the fact that the Yankees are asking Jeter to take it easy on certain plays when running full speed isn’t necessary. That’s obviously against Jeter’s nature, but he spoke about how he’s dealing with it. “I don’t want to learn how to do it,” he said. “I understand I have to do it, especially maybe the first week or two. They’ve told me time and time again to run under control in those types of situations. I feel awkward doing it. I don’t like doing it. I hope nobody watches me do it and they try to do it, you know what I mean? Because I’ve run hard my entire career. I think you can still run hard and run under control. I’m still running hard, but in certain situations, you have to play under control. I haven’t been good at that in my career, but I guess I have no choice here for a few games.”

• Jeter denied that he felt better physically than he did when he first returned on July 11, but Girardi certainly seemed to think that was the case. “I would agree with you wholeheartedly,” he said. “I thought he was running better, and you know, I told him before the game again, ‘You have to take it easy.’ I thought he did a good job of managing that. Now he’ll get a day off, and we’ll get a couple of days out of him in L.A., and he’ll get a day off again. You can kind of build him up. But I thought he was running better this time than the first time.”

• The one negative from today’s game was Phil Hughes. He gave up five runs and didn’t make it out of the fifth inning, with rookie Wil Myers (he’s going to be a good one) homering off of him twice. Hughes is now winless in his last seven starts at Yankee Stadium. “He was up the one inning,” Girardi said. “The couple of home runs that he gave up, the pitches were up. His slider wasn’t as sharp today as it’s been, which led to some troubles for him.”

• Here’s Hughes’ assessment of his outing: “I felt pretty good that first inning. From there, it felt like I started leaving balls up in the zone… It’s disappointing that I wasn’t able to hold the lead twice.”

• Hughes was asked if the upcoming trade deadline is weighing on his mind. “I’ll be going home,” he said. “We have an off day (Monday), which is good. I am going to relax a little bit, but other than that, I don’t really worry about that stuff.”

• I’ll give the final word to Jeter, who was asked what it means to him when people talk about how much his presence means to this club: “I have no idea,” he said. “I’ve been here for a long time. I think people get used to seeing me. I think it’s been kind of odd or awkward for a lot of fans who I’ve talked to that I haven’t been here for this long. I’ve been hurt in my career, I’ve missed some games, but never this much. I don’t know if I’ve missed this many games by injury in my entire career combined. I don’t know exactly what they mean. It feels good to hear it, but it’s not something that I necessarily think about.”

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139 Responses to “Postgame notes: “It feels like old times””

  1. Ys Guy July 28th, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    the bio thing is completely bound by the cba. its just not a failed drug test, so the penalties don’t have to conform to the 50/100/lifetime penalty schedule that attaches to failed drug tests.

    the arbitrator has only two possible choices in front of him, approve of the ban handed down by mlb, or set it aside. that’s it.

    the ‘rest of the year plus next season’ is what reporters are speculating will be the settlement, not what mlb is likely to hit him with as a suspension if he doesnt agree to a settlement. it seems pretty certain that mlb will hit him with a lifetime ban if he doesnt settle.

    if mlb goes for a lifetime ban and arod appeals it, the arbitrator will have 2 choices, lifetime ban or no penalty.

    its a tough choice, but i just can’t see arod risking $100M on an arbitrator’s ruling when he can settle for .60 cents on the dollar.

  2. Ys Guy July 28th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    i think this team will make a run for it. give me granderson back, add another bat or two after the deadline and dont be afraid to bring up phelps and pineda and i think this team can compete for the PS.

    keep the clown and his circus away, please.

  3. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    as much as i hate him, i’d almost prefer arod fight the lifetime ban. he would get to play for 2 months if he stays healthy, but then if he loses, the yankees are completely free from his contract.
    =========================
    how do we know the outcome of this appeal? is it all or nothing? could there b a compromise?

    lawyers out there…?

  4. comnsnse July 28th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    The rest of this season and all of 2014 means that if Arod decides to come back in 2015 he will be 41?

    Perhaps he will just try to work out a settlement for the balance of his contract.

    I hope he does it and seeks some form of redemption, maybe charitable works, speaking about lost dreams to kids and maybe some coaching at the youth level.

    The first step in counseling is admitting your mistakes, denial is fear!

  5. exiledintampa July 28th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Yankeesource?@YankeeSource1m
    Mariano Rivera lowers his 2013 ERA to 1.64. That would be his lowest since his 2008 season. You know when he was 38 and close to “done.”

  6. Baby Ruth July 28th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    I hope he does it and seeks some form of redemption, maybe charitable works, speaking about lost dreams to kids and maybe some coaching at the youth level.

    =================

    Nice idea.

  7. Ys Guy July 28th, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    arod tried the charity angle, working with the family of that kid who killed himself in a roid rage, right?

    arod f’s up everything he tries to do off the field. his ‘property management company’ which is one of his big investments is constatly cited for being a slumlord group.

    he needs to just shut up and go away.

  8. Tar July 28th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    “he needs to just shut up and go away.”

    I thought I said that about you the other day…….Doh

    J/k kind of sort of but not really

  9. ron July 28th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    That is all I was referring to with the cba.The penalty.
    He will get 150 games,minimum.

  10. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Jeter leads so much by example.
    What he did today was remarkable but even moreso was what he said about his getting used to not busting it down the line.
    It was akin to DiMaggio’s statement of going all out all the time as there might be fans out there seeing him for the 1st time.
    Jete said something like, I’ll never get used to that and it might influence a teammate the wrong way.
    Such a presence…

    …it’s been a pleasure watching him from the beginning.

  11. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Just heard on ESPN that we should hear about A-Rod and others this week.

  12. Ys Guy July 28th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    yeah, im not going away i was here before the ‘majority’ got here from wherever they came.

    but i bear no ill will towards anyone i just disagree with alot of the main posters on here.

    like this board consensus that this team sucks and isnt going anywhere.

    i think they are.

    i’ve been wrong before and ill be wrong again and im never afraid to admit it.

    how’s ‘the trade’ looking now? like a wash? :)

    its not easy making unpopular calls, but somebody’s gotta do it.

  13. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    I really think Arod is delusional enough to believe he can appeal and beat a ban.

    If not beat it, then get maybe1/2 of next season off.

    Is it all or nothing in an appeal?

  14. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Pujols with a partial tear of the plantar fascia of his foot.

    Likely will miss the rest of the season. Might even need surgery.

  15. joecembrale July 28th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    I’m with ya Y’s.

  16. Tar July 28th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    “…it’s been a pleasure watching him from the beginning.”

    It sure has. I remember the first time I saw him, I was like great another skinny, no hit SS.

    HAHA who knew!!!

    We sure have been lucky with Jeet and Mo and Andy and Po and Bernie and Mattingly and Alex (just for Y’s)………. the list goes on and on.

  17. Tar July 28th, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    Y’s I was joking about our bet. And what makes you think you are making “unpopular” calls? Seems like you are one of the herd to me.

  18. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    its not easy making unpopular calls, but somebody’s gotta do it.
    =========
    Ys

    your opinion is more popular than you give it credit for.
    its the squeaky wheel that gets the oil or attention.
    we are not squeaky, and many more than you think, think like we do,
    they are just quiet about it.

  19. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Seems like you are one of the herd to me.
    ==================
    like sheeple? ;)

  20. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    It sure has. I remember the first time I saw him, I was like great another skinny, no hit SS.
    ============
    that’s where that negative thinking rears its ugly head. ;)

  21. blake July 28th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    • Hughes was asked if the upcoming trade deadline is weighing on his mind. “I’ll be going home,” he said. “We have an off day (Monday), which is good. I am going to relax a little bit, but other than that, I don’t really worry about that stuff.”

    Hey Phil do you know something we don’t?

  22. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    The charity thing doesn’t fool many people. Ray Lewis started doing that after the double killing in Atlanta on the advice of PR people. They forgot to tell him not to add 3 more illegitimate kids to the 3 he already had.

  23. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    blake…he is sounding more and more like IPK in his last days here.

  24. Shame Spencer July 28th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Nick in SF July 28th, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    tucker, I think a few folks here are hoping Arod’s salary still counts against the cap because… they don’t want to see Hal bailed out. Or something like that.

    —-

    ???

    This has nothing to do with it.

  25. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    I believe Hughes should be traded as long as the return beats a supplemental draft pick.

    Which shouldn’t be too terribly hard.

    I’ve thought all along that a Western team makes the most sense.

  26. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    I think Hughes also said he felt he pitched good today.
    That was vintage IPK and early Joba.
    Could you imagine Andy saying that?
    Even Nova has come around and said he was bad the other day when we lost 1-0.

  27. blake July 28th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    I’m not talking about Arod anymore until whatever suspension is levied…..y’all can have at it but I’m done talkin about him for now.

    Real feel good win today with Matsui coming back and Jeter working his magic there in the 1st….

    Great win…..I’ll feel better though when these wins start finishing off sweeps or win series instead of salvaging a final game of a homestand.

    Jeter and Soriano essentially won today by themselves…..and they werent with the team a week ago so here is a difference right there. I still think of they are serious about winning this year though then they have to do more…..the next week may decide the season….they have to survive this road trip…. If they do and can tread water or gain a lote then they’ve got a chance. If they go backwards further though they are probably done with regards to the division race

  28. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    It sure has. I remember the first time I saw him, I was like great another skinny, no hit SS.

    He showed good extra base power in the minors. Took him a while in the majors to show good HR power though. Based on his minor league stats he always projected to hit for average.

  29. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Blake-

    I think they need more too.

    Especially a 3b who can hit.

  30. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    They just have to play winning baseball and not worry about the division race.
    The 2nd WC would be fine.

  31. Shame Spencer July 28th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    If they go backwards further though they are probably done with regards to the division race

    —————-

    I think at this point it’s safe to say our best shot is the WC. That’s still well within striking distance.

  32. tbone1570 July 28th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    They just have to play winning baseball and not worry about the division race.
    The 2nd WC would be fine.

    ************************
    They need to worry about Tuesday’s game and nothing else. Win Tuesday, then worry about Wednesday.

  33. Shame Spencer July 28th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Hehehehe, this little gem was just RTed by Cone:

    @WiseManPhil Haters = [H]aving [A]nger [T]owards [E]veryone [R]eaching [S]uccess.

  34. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    What a matchup on Wednesday!
    Kershaw vs Kuroda.
    Tix still available…

  35. Captain Clutch July 28th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Girardi said that Granderson will probably join them for the Padres series. Good news but I still think they need another bat. Obviously either a 3rd or 1st basemen.

  36. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    Many of us have believed that if the Yankees could pump up the O enough so that wasn’t resting on the bottom they’d have a shot at the WC.

    A team that averages 4.5 runs a game vs. 3.5 will make a big difference.

    Just get to the middle of the pack in O and we’re set.

    Hope more reinforcements are on the way.

    A Michael Young type would be an excellent choice.

  37. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Mick-

    That will be a fantastic matchup.

    All the makings of a classic pitchers duel.

  38. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    mtu
    plus kuroda back where he came from.

  39. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    myu

    hughes for young?

  40. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    mick-

    Yup. That adds another dimension to it.

  41. exiledintampa July 28th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Dodgers 20 strikeouts so far in 11 innings. no score in the game. Hope they don’t wake up tuesday.

  42. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    mick-

    Toss in Ruiz and you got a deal.

  43. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    we have to get to greinke on tuesday.
    they , at least , know him from the AL.

  44. joecembrale July 28th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Was thinking about what to give up for Young, Hughes might be a problem in Phillies park. The Phils need bp help.

  45. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    they would need joba for ruiz

  46. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Weds is the TD.

  47. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    what they should do is just pitch hughes on the road.

  48. Giuseppe Franco July 28th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Pujols with a partial tear of the plantar fascia of his foot.

    Likely will miss the rest of the season. Might even need surgery.

    ———-

    I have the very same injury in my left foot. Not a lot of fun. Got it playing baseball to boot.

  49. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Fine mick.

    They can have him.

  50. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    quietly ichiro is on fire…4 line shots up the middle

  51. joecembrale July 28th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
    what they should do is just pitch hughes on the road.

    Shades of Ed Whitson. ;)

  52. blake July 28th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Plantar fasciitis sucks…. I had it once before and its hard to even walk let alone play

  53. mick July 28th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    mtu-problem is they want more but i think a deal is imminent.
    they say the rangers want young back.

  54. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Sorry to hear GF.

    A lot of my hiking companions are prone to Plantar fasciitis.

    Not a tear but very painful for a long time.

  55. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    mtu who would you add to joba nd phil?

  56. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Mick-

    I heard that rumor too. Looks like we have competition for his services.

    Texas is serious about upgrading. They proved that already with Garza.

    I wouldn’t offer more than that for Young.

    We’ll just have to find someone else then.

    Not too much longer to wait.

  57. joecembrale July 28th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Do the Braves need a starter in place of Hudson?

  58. exiledintampa July 28th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Puig homered. 1 nothing Dodgers in 11. Looking forward to seeing Puig.

  59. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    is wiggy still out there?

  60. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    would you give up logan mtu?

  61. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Mick-

    Are we talking Young and Ruiz ?

    If so, I’d go Hughes, Joba, and a B guy like Whitley.

    Not sure what the Phillies need ?

  62. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    young and ruiz for logan and hughes?

  63. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Mick-

    No.

    If I were to trade Logan we could get a great return for him from the Braves.

    They really want to add another good left-handed reliever.

    They have 1 but they lost Venters and O’Flaherty early in the season.

  64. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Hughes in the launching pad?
    what do they have that we want?

  65. exiledintampa July 28th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Phils are 9.5 back in the wild card. I don’t see them taking on expiring contracts. They want future pieces.

  66. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    The Braves are looking at Peavy. Maybe even Lee.

  67. chicken_stanley July 28th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    joecembrale July 28th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
    Do the Braves need a starter in place of Hudson?

    —-

    Don’t know how true it is but heard on mlb radio (don’t remember the host), that the Braves planned to stand pat with regard to starting pitching

  68. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    the TD will light up tmw after the suspensions come down.

  69. chicken_stanley July 28th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    MTU – you may be right… just passing along what I had heard

  70. mick July 28th, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    would have liked to have seen sara kustock get a little wetter today…

  71. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Braves just got Brandon Beachy back from TJS.

    No idea if his command is all the way back and whether he solves their Hudson prob or is just depth.

    I think they’ll add more is my guess.

    Won’t want to count on Beachy that much this soon.

  72. comet July 28th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    MTU I get the impression that all is not well with you. I don’t read every thread so what’s up my friend?

  73. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Thanks Chicken.

    I’m just speculating. I have no special info.

  74. RadioKev July 28th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    I wonder if we can get Chipper Jones on a mid season signing. Love the old man team on days like this.

    Now Pettitte has to step his game up.

  75. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Comet-

    Mrs. MTU and I have had a very tough last 6 months.

    The latest episodes have involved one of mops getting very sick and needing a lot of special care, and several incidents w me at high altitude resulting in me needing to get my ticker checked.

    Things are slowly improving.

    Thanks for asking and for your concern.

    I hope you and yours are faring better.

  76. Chip July 28th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    sounds like Mike Morse has been traded:

    Mike Curto ?@CurtoWorld 38m
    Michael Morse’s rehab with the Rainiers just abruptly ended. Was in the lineup, but he was pulled from BP. Shook hands w/ everyone and left.

  77. RhapsodyInBlue July 28th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Mick did you ever see this story?

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/tag/sarah-kustok/

  78. Captain Clutch July 28th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    sounds like Mike Morse has been traded
    —————-

    Or the Mariners had an injury today and he is joining the team.

  79. comet July 28th, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    I knew one of the Mops had lost an eye due to rabies vaccine. I didn’t know you were unwell.

    Hope all is well with your ticker!

    Take care!!!

  80. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Thanks Comet.

    Should be a big week for the MTU family as well as the Yankees.

    We’re taking our mop to Vegas for another checkup, and I should have the results of my
    glow-in-the-dark stress test.

    I’m hoping for a Trifecta.

    A good report from the vet.

    No probs. w the Ticker.

    And several more good Yankee upgrades before the TD.

    :)

  81. RadioKev July 28th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    I’d love to see the Rangers trade Joe Nathan. That’s being too clever for your own good.

  82. Nick in SF July 28th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    Shame Spencer July 28th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
    Nick in SF July 28th, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    tucker, I think a few folks here are hoping Arod’s salary still counts against the cap because… they don’t want to see Hal bailed out. Or something like that.

    —-

    ???

    This has nothing to do with it.

    I’m sure it doesn’t in your case and in the case of all those but, perhaps, the few. ;)

    Gotta hit the road. Have a happy evening folks, as we prepare for our bright future to unfold.

    #newoffense

  83. comet July 28th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Young is available. He is a switch hitter isn’t he? He’d be a real improvement a third as it now is virtually certain ARod will not be returning this year.

    I also think Arod takes the year and a half if it is offered, because 60mm is too much to risk. Unless he is actually innocent.

  84. RadioKev July 28th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    At least Albert Pujols’ contract may one day overshadow A-Rod’s as the ultimate albatross.

  85. ZachA July 28th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Just posted this on RAB too, but, man, if we could go back in time 9-10 years. Sick.

    CF, ’04 Suzuki .372 BA, 262 H, 8 HR, 60 RBI, 36 SB
    SS, ’04 Jeter .292 BA, 23 HR, 78 RBI, 44 2B, 23 SB
    RF, ’03 Wells .317 BA, 33 HR, 117 RBI, 49 2B
    3B, ’03 Rodriguez .298 BA, 47 HR, 118 RBI, 30 2B, 17 SB
    DH, ’04 Hafner .311 BA, 28 HR, 41 2B, 109 RBI
    2B, ’03 Soriano .290 BA, 38 HR, 91 RBI, 36 2B, 35 SB
    1B, ’04 Teixeira .281 BA, 38 HR, 112 RBI, 34 2B
    LF, ’04 Overbay .301 BA, 16 HR, 53 2B, 87 RBI

  86. chicken_stanley July 28th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Comet – I think young is a RH bat. Maybe could spell Lyle at first also. If thats the route the Yanks are going, I hope the Phils aren’t asking a great deal

  87. MTU July 28th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    When they added the 2nd WC I wonder if anyone ever envisioned that both WC’s could come from the a single division in each league ?

    From the NL Central, and the AL East.

    It’s possible this year.

    Somehow I don’t think that’s what they were thinking.

    ;)

  88. longtimefan July 28th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    Jeter and Arod are polar opposites, class and respect for the game is what Jeter is all about, too bad we can’t say the same for Arod

  89. Jerkface July 28th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    86w,

    Where is your info about arod and the lt from? You have a very specific formula there that is not backed up by the jda or the cba. If its from a beat writer, then it is definitely not ‘the answer’. They have been wrong on every aspect of the cba and the lt all offseason.

  90. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    sounds like Mike Morse has been traded

    Saw some trade rumors about him mentioning Baltimore. He’s got an .830 ops lifetime I think with good splits. Either corner OF spot, 1B or DH. He’d be DH there, maybe spell the corners and even give Davis a break.

  91. chicken_stanley July 28th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Nothing really new here other than they are reporting MLB expects an answer from Arod tomorrow.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/r.....1;mlb.html

  92. CompassRosy July 28th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Chip July 28th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
    sounds like Mike Morse has been traded:

    Mike Curto ?@CurtoWorld 38m
    Michael Morse’s rehab with the Rainiers just abruptly ended. Was in the lineup, but he was pulled from BP. Shook hands w/ everyone and left.

    ~ ~ ~ ~

    Mike Curto ?@CurtoWorld 1h
    Guys, I said handshakes, not hugs. That means not traded.

    :-)

    No matter the move, curious about the outcome . . .
    If traded – who for?
    If just activated – who goes? (my guess is Jason Bay)

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 28th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Just tried to do a little post catching up – literally and literally, ha ha!

    1. About Soriano – I TOLD YOU!!!!! :)

    2. About Arod – flippin music to my years. YAY MLB!!! I hope he fights it and ends up with a lifetime suspension. I bet a lot of MLB players feel the same way – they’d like to see him disappear from the baseball canvas and they’d like to see penalties get a lot stiffer.

    This will be a great week in baseball as far as I’m concerned. Sorry that Cervelli has to be part of it, but you dance the wrong dance, you pay the piper.

    **************

    Ys Guy – I agree with you that this team is still destined for greatness. Pieces of the puzzle continue to come together.

    What a glorious day. Happy I taped the game, so I can see the innings I missed while I was in the car.

    To prove there is no I in team (but there is in RodrIguez), on the postgame radio show, Suzyn Waldman reported that when she tried to talk to Jeter and Soria about their great games today, all they wanted to talk about was Matsui and what a honor it was to play with him and have him retire in pinstripes.

    GO YANKS!!!

    :)

  94. Hankflorida July 28th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Mick, to quote Comnsnse when he wrote that the Yankee team that we knew before the elaborate
    system who in 17 years, won 10 WS and 15 pennants; as we look at the standing now and look at this team, we would ordinarily not see a contender, but since the rules have changed as you have pointed out, there is a second wild card with a separation of 2.5 games. Since the TD is Wednesday, do you think that Hal should go all out without thinking about the cap and try and get more punch in the lineup even if it means taking long term contacts or sit tight waiting for an adjustment of the cap for next year?

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 28th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Arod has neither the class nor the integrity to take the suspension, apoloize for his wrongdoing, and never do it again. He’d rather play streetfighter just to show everyone he’s bigger than the game and smarter than everyone else.

    Can’t wait to see the evidence they have against him.

    May he never (dis)grace the pinstripes again.

  96. RadioKev July 28th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue July 28th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
    Arod has neither the class nor the integrity to take the suspension, apoloize for his wrongdoing, and never do it again. He’d rather play streetfighter just to show everyone he’s bigger than the game and smarter than everyone else.

    Can’t wait to see the evidence they have against him.

    May he never (dis)grace the pinstripes again.
    ————

    A-Rod is great at apologizing. I’ve seen him do it before.

  97. RhapsodyInBlue July 28th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Arod only used from 1993 until 2013 when things were loosey goosey.

  98. austinmac July 28th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Aren’t the sports pages and sportscasts much more fun when the Yankees win?

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 28th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    “A-Rod is great at apologizing. I’ve seen him do it before.”

    RadioKev, you are right.

  100. austinmac July 28th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    AROD needs to agree to the deal, say he became addicted to the PED use and go into treatment. That’s the course he will take, iMO. Or at least, should take.

  101. comet July 28th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Everything is more fun when the Yankees win MG!

    How are you? Would you make any more deals before the deadline?

  102. chicken_stanley July 28th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    austinmac July 28th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
    Aren’t the sports pages and sportscasts much more fun when the Yankees win?

    ——

    Heck, today the crawler at the bottom of the screen on ESPN is entertaining! lol

  103. Howler July 28th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    I did a little research after yesterday’s bounce ball HR and Ruth…didn’t come up with any definitive numbers for him but it was an average of 1 or 2 a year. What was also interesting was that he also had 10 inside the park homers, and Bonds has 3 and Rickey Henderson 1.
    It also talked about a couple weird rules then, if a ball went over the fence fair, but landed in foul territory it wasn’t considered a HR, and if you hit a walkoff HR if the winning run was on 2 you’d only be awarded the number of bases needed to advance the winning run home.

  104. pat July 28th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Crazy stories about Tino.

  105. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    pat July 28th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
    Crazy stories about Tino.

    For the most part he didn’t deny anything.

  106. BD (Boston Dave) July 28th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    From RAB:

    * No, A-Rod’s salary does not count against the luxury tax while he’s suspended. I don’t know how the calculation works, but I know it doesn’t count. He also won’t count against the 40-man roster, so there’s that.

    This has been discussed and frankly is a HUGE deal if true

  107. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    What was also interesting was that he (Babe Ruth) also had 10 inside the park homers.

    If he hit anything the opposite way to the alley he’d have a good chance at that. My guess is Combs the CF and lead off guy alleged to be a good oppo hitter got a mess of his triples to LCF.

  108. blake July 28th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    I’m watching this show “Naked and Afraid”…..wonder if Cash and Hal could survive ?

  109. pat July 28th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    “For the most part he didn’t deny anything.”

    He admitted to grabbing the player but denied grabbing him by his throat.

  110. Howler July 28th, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Speaks to the size of the stadiums then and now, but probably got robbed of quite a few too.
    So only thing missing today was DFA to Hafner and timing the contracts a little better to give Matsui the winning homer.

  111. comet July 28th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    blake July 28th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
    I’m watching this show “Naked and Afraid”…..wonder if Cash and Hal could survive ?

    I think Cash already has. Remember his fling? If I was naked with her I’d be afraid.

  112. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    He admitted to grabbing the player but denied grabbing him by his throat.

    Didn’t know about the throat, just “by the jersey.” He also didn’t deny the “verbal abuse” which he referred to as constructive criticism. Said the going public prompted him to resign. Sounded contrite. Wasn’t working out anyway. Aren’t they pretty bad offensively?

  113. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    I think Cash already has. Remember his fling? If I was naked with her I’d be afraid.

    She was right out of Fatal Attraction but made Glenn Close look like Gwyneth Paltrow.

  114. rm July 28th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Jerkface July 28th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
    86w,

    Where is your info about arod and the lt from? You have a very specific formula there that is not backed up by the jda or the cba. If its from a beat writer, then it is definitely not ‘the answer’. They have been wrong on every aspect of the cba and the lt all offseason.
    —————–
    It is possible the loss of salary due to the suspension could be treated as a negative bonus based on the wording of players agreement but that interpretation is quite a stretch.

  115. BD (Boston Dave) July 28th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    q: What happens to the Yankees’ luxury tax situation if Alex Rodriguez is declared “unable to perform” and then retires? I understand that insurance would cover 80% of his remaining salary but would it still count against the luxury tax? What if he’s suspended?

    a: Being “unable to perform” and retiring are two different things. Being “unable to perform” means you just stay on the DL and get paid. Retiring is walking away and forfeiting the rest of your contract. If A-Rod is declared “unable to perform,” he still counts against the luxury tax even if insurance reimburses the team. If he’s suspended, then his salary does not count against the tax. Long story short, the only way Alex won’t count against the luxury tax is if he voluntarily retires or MLB suspends him. That’s it.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....-mo-90708/

  116. Jerkface July 28th, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    The best result for the Yankees is that A-rod beats any suspension and is a good player the next

    The next best result is that he appeals this season, helps them to the playoffs (well wildcard game anyways) and then gets banned for life/for 2014 and the salary is removed from the luxury tax calculation. And the ban comes early in the offseason, like around the postseason time/end of the WS so they have the max time to use the money.

    I am still not seeing that though, and especially not seeing it as a flat salary deduction from an AAV calculated amount.

  117. Jerkface July 28th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Stupid laptop ate the top part of that, ‘is a good player that helps them the next 2 years by actually playing well.’

  118. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Looks like we’ll have an answer by Monday.

    Alex Rodriguez is facing a lifetime ban from baseball as a result of evidence obtained through the Biogenesis probe, but Major League Baseball is offering Rodriguez a deal to soften the ban, according to the New York Daily News.
    If Rodriguez agrees to a suspension for the rest of this season and all of the 2014 season, he would not be banned for life.
    Accepting that deal would allow Rodriguez to return to the Yankees in 2015. Major League Baseball wants Rodriguez to respond to its offer by Monday.

  119. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Jake Peavy has cleared his locker, Michael Morse has been pulled from the lineup. Where might they be headed?

  120. Hans Davenport July 28th, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    From what I have seen of Morse, I would not care if he came to NY to replace Wells or Overbay.

  121. Kelvin July 28th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    Doubt any are headed to the Yankees, lol. National league most likely.

  122. BD (Boston Dave) July 28th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    what’s the over under gonna be for Kuroda v Kershaw on Tue? 2.5 runs??

  123. BD (Boston Dave) July 28th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    on *Wed

  124. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Morse to the Rangers to replace a soon suspended Nelson Cruz?

  125. CompassRosy July 29th, 2013 at 1:13 am

    I’ve seen nothing from the “usual suspects” re: a Morse trade.
    I really think he was just pulled in order to get home in time to travel east with the team.

    Speaking of traveling east . . .
    can I assume there will be some serious Mariners rooting here over the next week?

    ;-)

  126. sammiejohnson July 29th, 2013 at 1:17 am

    BD (Boston Dave) July 28th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Being “unable to perform” means you just stay on the DL and get paid. Retiring is walking away and forfeiting the rest of your contract. If A-Rod is declared “unable to perform,” he still counts against the luxury tax even if insurance reimburses the team. If he’s suspended, then his salary does not count against the tax. Long story short, the only way Alex won’t count against the luxury tax is if he voluntarily retires or MLB suspends him. That’s it.

    ________________________________

    Please show where in the CBA it states that a suspended player does NOT count against the LT?? Not a reporter’s take on it. But in the CBA?? No where in the CBA can I find language that says the Yankees’ are off the hook (for LT purposes) if ARod is suspended.

    That’s it.

  127. JimK July 29th, 2013 at 2:01 am

    If he is placed on the restricted list due to a violation of the leagues drug policy any time spent on the separate list as per article XX paragraph A is not considered active service and thus doe not count towards the payroll tax. If he is not considered an active player for all intents and purposes his salary does not count towards the LT ceiling; other than guesswork does anyone here have any contract labor law experience? Because reading the responses it certainly does not appear that anyone does.

  128. Jerkface July 29th, 2013 at 4:25 am

    Thats not what Article XX paragraph A says or what any of the attachments say. You gain service time on the restricted list as laid out in the JDA.

  129. Chip July 29th, 2013 at 6:40 am

    Whether Alex counts towards the luxury tax or not doesn’t matter.

    The Yankees don’t care about the tax threshold because of the moral implications of hitting that number, they care about it because of how much money they have to pay out. Even if Alex counts towards the luxury tax, the Yankees don’t have to pay him which saves them $25 million a year. So let’s say that Hal has budgeted that he wants to spend $189 million next year. The payroll can go over that to about $200 or so million and it’s still the same amount of money being spent if they decide to go that way because $25 million of that won’t actually be paid.

  130. Keith--PA....no longer FL July 29th, 2013 at 7:15 am

    Cashman outthinks himself sometimes…..like in 2009 just resign Matsui for the DH, but instead we got the oft-injured Nick Johnson, and have to trade for Berkman……. this year, resign Ibanez but instead we get Travis Hafner, and have to trade for Soriano…..in 2001, resign Jeff Nelson, but instead have no one for all year to bridge to MO, trade for Witasick who gives up 8 ER in game 6 of the world series and was terrible….

  131. MG July 29th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    What a fascinating dialog last night about whether Arod’s salary would count against the luxury tax cap next year.

    For those who don’t have time to read all of it, here is the synopsis:

    ‘It will’

    ‘It won’t’

    ‘It will too’

    ‘It won’t’

    It will’

    ‘It won’t’

    ‘It will so’

    ‘No it won’t’

    :)

  132. GregD July 29th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    MG—– hilarious!

  133. blake July 29th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    It won’t!

  134. JimK July 29th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    JF, I believe you are are misinterpreting “but for” in the JDA.

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