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Cervelli going to see Dr. Andrews

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 31, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Francisco Cervelli is going to see Dr. James Andrews regarding lingering soreness in his throwing elbow. That appointment is set for August 5. He’s also still experiencing pain in his finger that was broken earlier this season.

“It’s looking more and more like it’s going to be unrealistic to see Cervelli (this season),” Cashman said.

Cervelli recently saw a specialist in Cleveland about the finger, and that doctor said there’s been no setback, he simply needs to continue that rehab process. But there’s still pain there, and there’s still pain in the elbow that suffered a “stress reaction” earlier this month.

“He has two complaints that aren’t resolving very well,” Cashman said.

Of course, Cervelli still has the Biogenesis situation that might make all of this a moot point.

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406 Responses to “Cervelli going to see Dr. Andrews”

  1. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Since Young wasn’t moved you would assume that the Phillies were only going to trade him if they could get a very good prospect back. I am sure they thought if they had Yanks vs Sox they would wait to see how would jump first. It’s a good thing that Levine/Hal didn’t make Cashman give up something stupid.

  2. Frankg July 31st, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Chad,

    Do you know Vidal Nuno’s medical status?

  3. fantasygame101 July 31st, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    I hope they are not waiting for cervelli too. Let us try shoppach.

  4. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    I love how Cashman keeps giving Arod updates even though he knows that he isn’t playing again for the Yanks this year. It’s such bs, almost like he is lying to the fans trying to give them hope for another bat. Of course the updates come right after he doesn’t make a deal today. Perfect timing.

  5. bruceb July 31st, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Has he got the wrong doc? This isn’t the one who hands out the magic Skittles.

  6. fantasygame101 July 31st, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    Hope is the theme for today. Granderson hopefully can return Friday and helps. Hope for arod providing help. Hope for youk returns. Just like cashman, I am hoping too that I will win the lottery, and just like cashman, I am hoping that I win even if I did nothing to help my chances like buying a lottery ticket.

  7. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    Nick in SF – I totally agree on the Mariners. Why they didn’t move Morse and Morales is beyond me…

    Well… not entirely… they dealt damaged goods to the Yankees last time. Who in their right mind would want to trade with these scum?

  8. luis July 31st, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    luis July 31st, 2013 at 5:02 pm
    TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:29 pm
    Luis,

    Do we even know at this point if the “bulk of our farm” is even MLB level? The track record hasn’t been so good at development. If anything, we had a surplus of pitching, especially relief pitching which could have been turned into some postional prospects at least.

    =========================

    No, Straw… Most of it is not MLB ready players… hence the inevitable down period we are going to go through… But trading them might mean an even longer down period… So it is a positive to me.

  9. XLJ07 July 31st, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    Cervelli is a cheater.. I hope the yanks trade him..

    Romine & Murphy >>> Cervelli

  10. luis July 31st, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Later guys

  11. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    I wish Dr. James Andrews would look at my shoulder.

  12. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    Sure, more teams are in the race deeper into the season so there are too many buyers at the deadline but

    1) How do you explain lack of trading in the Winter for Cashman?

    2) Why didn’t Cashman think to capitalize on this new pool of buyers by dangling Kuroda, Cano and Gardner?

  13. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Maybe… unlike you, he’s not quitting on the season?

    Just a thought.

  14. saucY July 31st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Prediction: Cervelli just plain released before MLB has a chance to actually discipline him.

  15. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Call up JR Murphy, play Nunez at SS and Adams at 3B. DH Derek Jeter.

  16. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    “Well… not entirely… they dealt damaged goods to the Yankees last time. Who in their right mind would want to trade with these scum?”

    Maybe they’re saying the same thing about Cashman after being dealt Jesus Montero?

  17. joeman July 31st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2013 at 5:09 pm
    I wish Dr. James Andrews would look at my shoulder.

    ——————————————-
    never get a Appt

  18. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    When did Dr Andrews start selling PEDs?

  19. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    “2) Why didn’t Cashman think to capitalize on this new pool of buyers by dangling Kuroda, Cano and Gardner?”

    The Yankees are skeered to do something like that

  20. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    2) Why didn’t Cashman think to capitalize on this new pool of buyers by dangling Kuroda, Cano and Gardner?

    would be foolish to trade Gardner but the other two I agree

  21. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    blake – He just peddles the one that is apparently OK in everyone’s eyes, cortisone. :p

  22. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Or maybe he doesn’t know how to look ahead more than one month, has no vision or plan for the future and doesn’t have the front office unified to negotiate a strategic plan for reloading when it’s obvious that they need to do exactly that right now.

  23. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Cashman told me that he’s absolutely not going to trade Gardner under any circumstances simply because he knows Bret doesn’t like him and has wanted to trade him for 3-4 years now.

  24. Pat M. July 31st, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    Commonsense…..Great post at the end of the previous thread. Solid points

  25. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Cashman’s new phrase is “pulling something down”. He’s trying to pull everything down

  26. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    Put it this way. When I say look ahead one month and reload I mean this:

    After 2014 they will have zero players under control in the OF.

    After 2013 they will need a catcher and a 3B

    After 2014 they will need a SS

    So by the end of 2014 they will need 3 OF, one catcher, one shortstop and one 3B

    I guess the plan is patience?

    Looks to me like no plan at all.

  27. fantasygame101 July 31st, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    I believe cashman is not capable of pulling something down. He is paying for someone to pull something down, last I heard.

  28. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    The Phillies are an old team that needs to rebuild/reload just like the Yankees.

    Maybe even more because their Farm system is a mess too.

    Yet they didn’t trade guys like Lee, Young, or even Utley.

    The reason I heard was that they, like the Yankees, don’t have the option of waving the white flag and punting on the rest of the season.

    Their fans have high expectations and are used to winning. They wouldn’t tolerate it.

    And I know It makes perfect sense in so many ways and would actually help in the long run.

    Don’t shoot the messenger please.

    :)

  29. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Pat M. July 31st, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    “… Everyone wants change yet how to achieve positive change requires some viable considerations.

    Baseball IQ’s have dramatically shifted here over the past few years or so……”

    =============================

    Thank you, Pat M. !!!

    I wish all would read & comprehend the above !

    Please re-post here as many times as need be !

  30. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Buster, where do some of your ideas actually germinate, I mean which part of your body?

    Cashman should have “dangled” his best players sooner, Cano, Kuroda, Gardner?

    And accepted what in return, prospects?

    And posters like you would have been happy playing prospects and not making the playoffs or seeing a few actually fail?

    The plan in sports is to have a core group and build around them and while age. product development and bad contracts are now impacting the org.. How could anyone have foreseen the enormity of the problem or made decisions to correct same if they had to run it up the pole with the committee at every turn?

    The plan need not change, nor the baby thrown out with the bathwater. A course correction is required by someone who knows what they’re doing and is given the power to do so.

    The org. must state publicly that on all personnel matters the CEO is the GM and let the damn employees know it!

  31. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    I wish we could have added some youngish offensive players, but I’m glad we didn’t trade a prospect for a two month player. They hope to re- sign Cano and don’t want to alienate him by a trade. Players rarely come back especially if the new team is good. They probably feel it would be improper to trade Kuroda unless he wanted it. He deserves respect.

    Granderson will be a draft pick guy. Understandably, Hughes and Joba’s values seem to drop with regularity. I wish we could have gotten something for them.

  32. XLJ07 July 31st, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Kuroda- Has a no trade clause and he didn’t waive his no trade back when the Dodgers wanted to trade him.

    Cano is their star player and they will try to resign him.

    Gardner- It makes no sense trading him.

    The guys they could of traded realistically were Granderson, Hughes and Chamberlain. Hughes and Joba were bad and killed their value and Granderson got hurt which hurt is trade value. They are better off getting the draft picks for Granderson and Hughes when they sign with another team in the offseason.

  33. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Kay asked Cash if they had anybody in house that could platoon with Overbay…..he said ….nope ….

  34. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:25 pm
    Put it this way. When I say look ahead one month and reload I mean this:

    After 2014 they will have zero players under control in the OF.

    After 2013 they will need a catcher and a 3B

    After 2014 they will need a SS

    So by the end of 2014 they will need 3 OF, one catcher, one shortstop and one 3B

    I guess the plan is patience?

    Looks to me like no plan at all.
    =================================

    If I were a VG player…I’d hope my agent would prepare me for 2015 to become a Free Agent.

  35. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    All the illegal stuff MLB did during the investigation to collect information on the players will probably have to become public during A-Rods appeal. Another motivation for them to threaten him with the ban-hammer and push for the plea deal.

    I just don’t understand it. If they hate him so much (as to ban him for life) why would they then be trying to protect him and let him miss less time? It only makes sense to me if the players taking the plea deals is helping the MLB save face or keep some things private in some fashion.

  36. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Buster,

    That is just the picture I have seen for quite some time with no hint of change. They seem incapable of looking into the future, even a certain future like aging. I don’t get it.

  37. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    MTU,

    But the Red Sox front office knows that sometimes smart moves will be unpopular and they are willing to disappoint the fans in the short term in order to sustain a winning culture which is pleasing to them in the long term. That is an organization with vision, thus adaptability. The Yankees and Phillies are slaves to a culture of short term gratification and lowest common denominator fanhood. Is that because there is a greater proportion of higher degrees amongst the residents of Boston compared to the other cities? I don’t think so. I think the situation we’re in is because the owners and front office are lowest common denominator leaders.

  38. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Kay asked Cash if they had anybody in house that could platoon with Overbay…..he said ….nope ….
    ===================

    There is obviously something dramatically “wrong” with Randy Ruiz.

    Very, very wrong.

  39. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    “Looks to me like no plan at all.”

    This is the part of the thread where you point to all of the other MLB teams that have more than 3 “yankee caliber” position players locked up for 2015. I’ll wait.

  40. mnmboys July 31st, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Bustero – the plan will be to replace via free agency after the $189 is reset and after they clear some albatross contracts. Maybe a couple of these “top” prospects pan out along the way

  41. fantasygame101 July 31st, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    blake,

    Cashman misunderstood kay, he thought kay is asking in his house. He has no one left in the house, so no one can play 1b?

  42. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    MTU,

    Leaders have to lead. One becomes a team president or GM because he presumably know how to build a winning team better than the fans. Letting the team slide further is not leadership and if actions are done for reasons other than fielding a good team year after year, they shouldn’t have their jobs.

    The Phil’s are ruining their franchise almost as quickly as the Yankees.

  43. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    MTU,

    And that leadership is like an old economy big business. Once hugely profitable, the business plan and operation model becomes etched in stone even as the reality around changes drastically and demands adaptation. Greed is very dumb.

  44. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Buster-

    Point well taken.

    I wish I had an answer for you.

    Maybe someone else does ?

  45. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Cashman just said that we will see Pineda this year. He wasn’t sure if it would be August or September. He said if they had an injury right now he could take that spot.

  46. mnmboys July 31st, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Mo, Pettitte and Granderson off the books next year and hopefully ARod banned will clear a lot of salary. I would make a play for Ellsbury and McCann if possible. Both 29yrs old.

  47. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    “That is an organization with vision, thus adaptability.”

    I’m sorry but this is naive. The Red Sox sold out the last half of last season AND this season. To pretend they intended to compete like they are this year is foolish. They are getting some incredible over-performances from some scrub players. This is not “impressive management” it’s merely lucky.

    Just like signing $300mil in bad contracts and then finding a bigger idiots to trade them to. Luck, not skill.

  48. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    mnmboys July 31st, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Bustero – the plan will be to replace via free agency after the $189 is reset and after they clear some albatross contracts.
    Maybe a couple of these “top” prospects pan out along the way.
    ==============================

    I think you have the ‘pipeline’ to the FO.

    Sensible.
    Realistic….
    and likely pretty damn accurate !!!

  49. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Maybe a couple of these “top” prospects pan out along the way

    ———————–

    Not with this organization.

  50. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 5:36 pm
    Maybe a couple of these “top” prospects pan out along the way

    ———————–

    Not with this organization.

    ============================

    But we hug them with blind passion !

    Of course – What about Musty !!!

  51. tbone1570 July 31st, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Pat M. July 31st, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    … Everyone wants change yet how to achieve positive change requires some viable considerations.

    ************************

    It’s the lack of the viable considerations that is the real reason for the complaining.

  52. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    And meanwhile we are stuck with Brent Lillibridge tweeting a picture of a puppy and a small child inside a cage.

    Thanks for nothing, Cashman! :mad: :mad: :mad:

  53. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Cashman did elude to the possibility that they could call up JR at some point…..said he will have to hit a lot worse first though

  54. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Austin, did you say that when they won their most recent WS just 4 years ago?

    No plan,no change incapable of looking into the future?

    Do unforeseen circumstances occur in any endeavor?

    Should you panic and make decisions in haste?

    At this moment in time the only thing we should hold Cashman accountable for is product development.

    And are we not on shaky ground there as well not really knowing if for example.

    Can he fire Newman, Oppenheimer, Eppler without the ownership’s
    approval?

    So how do we judge when we don’t know the answers to these questions?

    Think about it, is it too much to ask of “loyal” Yankee fans to wait perhaps another couple of years for the next parade?

  55. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    So we’ll have Jeter, Grandy, and Soriano as our upgrades.

    Plus whoever we can pull down off the waiver wires.

    That about right ?

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    “craigcalcaterra: Source: If A-rod doesn’t settle with MLB, he will be given a lifetime suspension.”

    PLEASE – don’t settle Arod!!!

  57. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    Chad,

    I would like Cashman to be plainly asked why after 7-8 years of building from within there are so very few helpful players, who is responsible and what changes are being made.

    It is not a friendly question, I know, but as one who asks such questions regularly, it seems a very fair one. Not even a helpful RH first baseman?

  58. bruceb July 31st, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    And meanwhile we are stuck with Brent Lillibridge tweeting a picture of a puppy and a small child inside a cage.

    I thought THAT WAS Lillibridge inside the cage.

  59. UnKnown July 31st, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    I’m still all in and planning to watch Yankee baseball in Oct.

    Let’s F*cking Go!!!

  60. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    UnKnown says:
    July 31, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    I’m still all in and planning to watch Yankee baseball in Oct.

    I have the 2009 WS on tape…. Would you like to borrow it?

  61. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    I still would like to know who our everyday 3b will be ?

  62. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    UpState July 31st, 2013 at 5:37 pm
    Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 5:36 pm
    Maybe a couple of these “top” prospects pan out along the way

    ———————–

    Not with this organization.

    ============================

    But we hug them with blind passion !

    Of course – What about Musty !!!

    ——————–

    They have hugged a lot and produced very little.

  63. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    I still would like to know who our everyday 3b will be ?

    ——————

    Go with Adams and let the kid get his reps.

  64. mnmboys July 31st, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    They didn’t work hard enough to develop positions like 1B, 3B, SS because they had players at the major league level that were under contract for 7-8 yrs at $25MM+/yr. There is no excuse why they don’t have any real SP or OF talent that is MLB ready. Although Austin Jackson was one of those guys. They have done a good job developing C and RP, IMO

  65. MG July 31st, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Top Ten Things to Do for Diehard Yankees Fans unable to accept a year without being in the playoffs:

    #10: Drink more

    #9: Roast a pig and Drink more

    #8: Buy a puppy, they never make bad trades!

    #7: Watch a Mets game that Matt Harvey doesn’t pitch, it will make you feel better

    #6: Dream about James Dolan buying the Yankees (actually, that might be a nightmare)

    #5: Rappel down a 20 story building screaming, ‘Cashman is an idiot’

    #4: Sky dive out of an airplane with a huge banner that says, ‘Cashman is an idiot’

    #3: Fly to Tampa, drive out to Malio’s at happy hour, and ask Hank why he signed Arod to the new contract. He may not give you a good answer but, hey, the drinks are on him!

    #2: Stop watching or attending games, it’s hard to get upset when you stay away

    and, finally, the #1 way for Diehard Yankees fans to accept not making the playoffs this year:

  66. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Never thought I’d say this, but the Fister-for-Furbush trade is no longer the funniest ever. Bud for Hoes and a Hader: You are the winner.
    — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) July 31, 2013

  67. Your Worst Nightmare July 31st, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    comnsnse July 30th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    YWN, AKA Cornball, may I address you by the acronym YWN in the future?

    Were you on both the Feinsand and Dellapina blogs? The Feinsand blog was populated with a less serious crowd, do you remember Redfish?

    Actually the hockey blog was even more fun with a bunch of true hockey fans with a definite sense of humor when Dellapina was the writer.

    Unfortunately he left for a job with the NHL office and what followed was two disastrous writers necessitating a mild verbal thrashing on my part for their less than brilliant blogs.

    Resulting in my banishment by a wet behind the ears recent college grad who should have been making coffee runs with Cashman!

    Even Feinsand refused to intervene the wuss ……………. and just because I commented on his girth a few times!

    PS, the hockey blog is in the dumper and Feinsand misses me!

    Be well and post more often.

    ===============

    YWN is fine LOL ! I was only on BTB which was a flippen riot with ur buddy ‘Fishytina’, what a hoot.

    Feinsand and his girth ? He used to get ripped about going to ‘White Castle’ for the bonus sack of burgers (15 for the price of 12) I think he has gained 25 pounds since those days.

    Or is it cuz his Blog has been a ghost town ever since he chased everyone away with his mindless late posts.

    How is ur buddy ‘Fishytina’ BTW ? LOL !

    U know ‘DONNYBROOK’ on here is ‘CHIN MUSIC’ right ?

    What fun …………………….

  68. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Sense,

    Firstly, the method of operation greatly changed after 2009. Since then, they have not gotten involved in the international or free agent markets with any real effect or effort.

    Operating a business requires looking and today and onto the future. It has been evident to anyone the team was aging, yet international spending and draft spending(prior to the new rules) have lessened particularly compared with their competitors.

    I have repeatedly said I don’t know how they operate or who makes the decisions. It seems clear to me some longer term vision is required. Adding released players with regularity to fill the roster shouldn’t be the only way to fill holes. They should look at the 23 and older international players.

    The Yankees have used money to their advantage in all the glory years since Ruth was acquired. I see no reason not try to be THE brand in baseball. This group seems to think economic success is assured. I don’t think it is.

  69. MG July 31st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    I still would like to know who our everyday 3b will be ?
    —————
    MTU, your ticker is OK, can you switch hit? :)

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    When the Yankees filled out their dance card this year, I don’t think they – or anyone else for that matter – expected that Andy would be 7-8, CC would be 9-9 and Hughes would be 4-9. They anticipated that their pitching would carry them until they got back some of their regulars. Had the three mentioned staters had better seasons, it’s possible it would have worked out the way they anticipated. Add all of the injuries and re-injuries, well things certainly went awry.

    Life isn’t always fair or fun. It is what it is.

  71. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    AAO-

    I want someone who can hit to at least replacement level.

    Hopefully better.

    Same out of our C.

    Same from our DH.

    Is that asking too much ?

  72. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    What’s #1 MG?

  73. GregD July 31st, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    the month of August is going to be interesting………if the Yanks can’t stay close…..will they turn it over to some of the younger players and let them play….Romine? Adams? Almonte? Murphy? bring up Heathcott? Warren? Nuno?

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    “I’m still all in and planning to watch Yankee baseball in Oct.

    Let’s F*cking Go!!!”

    That’s the way to do it, unless and until a day comes when it is mathematically impossible to say otherwise.

    The only thing of which I am relatively certain is this. I won’t be winning the Prediction Chart this season.

  75. MG July 31st, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:51 pm
    What’s #1 MG?
    ————
    blake, think final episode of the Sopranos…

  76. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    “craigcalcaterra: Source: If A-rod doesn’t settle with MLB, he will be given a lifetime suspension.”

    PLEASE – don’t settle Arod!!!

    ____________

    The possibility that he won’t settle has become the highlight of my season.

  77. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    I would go with Lillibridge at 3rd base for now. He plays great defense and he can hit a little bit. Nix looked terrible yesterday and his defense is bad. I really can’t figure out why they were so quick to activate him off the DL. They rushed him like he is some super star or something. Very weird.

  78. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Austin, respectfully the writer has already posted his views on your question about his limited authority.

    And while I seriously think he’s gone overboard with the HOF vote, he has stated it unequivocally.

    I said in a previous thread that current ownership seems to be following the “Boss” modus operandi.

    You keep everyone guessing so they ultimately must come back to you for final approval!

    If you’re asking for a blow by blow detailed report on every transaction and who called the shots, don’t hold your breath!

    As for the “helpful RH first baseman”, who did you have in mind and who were you willing to give up considering everyone knows the Yanks are desperate?

    You younger fans should have a little more patience, it’s us old geezers who don’t have a lot of time! ;)

  79. blake July 31st, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Hah….I thought you just hit send too soon ….clever

  80. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    “I thought THAT WAS Lillibridge inside the cage.”

    Nice! Hey, is Arsenal going to get anybody before the transfer window closes? I thought they were in on Higuan from Real Madrid, but he went to Napoli instead? And now they either are or aren’t trying to get Suarez? Are not bidding to get Fabregas back?

  81. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:51 pm
    AAO-

    I want someone who can hit to at least replacement level.

    Hopefully better.

    Same out of our C.

    Same from our DH.

    Is that asking too much ?

    ————–

    Understandable but if it’s true that Cash wants to rebuild but the FO is playing the can’t rebuild game then at least give Adams a shot to see if he can do something.

  82. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    “The possibility that he won’t settle has become the highlight of my season.”

    Mine also Bustero. Mine also.

  83. 4 NYY July 31st, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    All the talk of players we should get and players we should trade mean little to the management. It’s about the $189 and the fact that we can’t acquire quality ‘young’ players { not on a list hopefully } because of the huge burden of the long term contacts we carry.

    I’ll say it again, in 2-3 yrs., we may have a good team again.

    I think we’ve seen enough dumpster diving to last a lifetime.

  84. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    MG-

    :)

  85. Your Worst Nightmare July 31st, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    comnsnse ………………..

    Shall I assume that you saw my post back to you ?

  86. 4 NYY July 31st, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    In the meantime, I’ll be most happy to be wrong !!!

  87. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 6:00 pm

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  88. GregD July 31st, 2013 at 6:02 pm

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  89. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:05 pm

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    And when other teams as you mention are securing more forms of income as the Yankees have it does become more difficult to succeed all the time as many sport’s fans seem to believe is their due!

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  93. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:12 pm

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    Please follow the tenor and style of a certain poster on this site whom I know not only posted here and the DN, but asked me to try the loHud baseball site, “because it had an interesting group of posters”.

    His screen name strarts with the same first letter and some of his personal info is quite similar to our former DN colleague.

    He was very adversarial with the Redfish as was I!

  94. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 6:13 pm

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    Arod to Fight Any MLB Discipline

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....ipline-mlb

    However, MLB may try to suspend Rodriguez under its collective bargaining agreement instead of its drug rules, according to The Associated Press.

    If MLB goes ahead with the suspension under the labor deal, Rodriguez would lose virtually any chance of delaying the penalty while he appeals the case.

    But a person familiar with management’s deliberations told the AP that MLB could skirt that problem by punishing Rodriguez for other alleged violations.

    The Yankees also expect Rodriguez to be accused of not being truthful with MLB in the past when he discussed his relationship with Dr. Anthony Galea, who pleaded guilty two years ago to a federal charge of bringing unapproved drugs into the United States from Canada.

  95. JT July 31st, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Barring an A-Rod miracle comeback, David Adams should be penciled in as the everyday 3B. He has hit at every level and needs to be given an extended look. I know that “Nixy” is a professional, but he is a career utility guy. There is limited downside to giving Adams a real shot, and his upside is way higher than Nix’s.

    Now is the perfect time to find out what they have in Adams.

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:05 pm

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  97. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    Trish, ever go to a Ranger/Islander game at the Garden and hear the “Potvin sucks” chant?

    Are you on BP meds…..yet? ;)

  98. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Sense,

    I was thinking they should have some big, lumbering guy in the system that can hit and play first. It’s probably the easiest position to fill.

    We old guys don’t want to wait beyond our expiration dates, whenever they may be.

    My viewpoint must be from Alan as that is my role. But, no I don’t suggest an unlimited budget, but I do suggest long term investments in good young players is smart. George did it. Hal and company do not. I’m not sure how you can say things haven’t changed.

  99. GregD July 31st, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Now is the perfect time to find out what they have in Adams.
    ———–
    I think you’re right….and Romine too………..

  100. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    JT, that’s the ticket not only with Adams but some others a well.

    Which barring a miracle will happen as the season wears on.

    Let’s throw some of the kids into the fire and make some case hardened steel……hopefully!

  101. MG July 31st, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:12 pm
    YWN, I did ,now let me ask you to think on something I’ve been pondering for awhile.

    Please follow the tenor and style of a certain poster on this site whom I know not only posted here and the DN, but asked me to try the loHud baseball site, “because it had an interesting group of posters”.

    His screen name strarts with the same first letter and some of his personal info is quite similar to our former DN colleague.

    He was very adversarial with the Redfish as was I!
    ————–
    the guy posting as YWN is most likely Redfish, aka WCYF.

    He is not the one who posted as ‘Your Worst Nightmare’ on the DN blogs, I would put up any sum of money on that bet with 100% certainty as I know who that person is and he posts here under a different name without a second alias.

  102. austinmac July 31st, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    Sense,

    I have never heard Cashman express anything about authority in drafting and developing. Maybe he has no real say in either. He said the system was going to be a team strength. It hasn’t been.

  103. RayVT July 31st, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    I’m sorry but Adams is not the answer for a corner infield position. He doesn’t have the footwork, glove or arm to play 3rd or 1st. He doesn’t hit for power either which is a staple for those 2 positions. He has no speed either.

    What Adams does have is a steady glove & an average to perhaps a plus bat for a 2nd baseman.

  104. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    AAO-

    I’m actually surprised by Adams thus far.

    All indications were that last thing to worry about with him was his hit tool.

    He’s been in their for a decent # of at bats and yet shown nothing.

    Perhaps he is still adjusting. I hope so because I really can’t believe he’s this bad with the stick.

    Unfortunately, the Yankees could use some production immediately.

    I guess if they have no one else

  105. GregD July 31st, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    young players don’t normally come into the league and perform at high levels right away…….patience will be required….Austin Jackson took several years to get to where he is……not sure Yankee fans have the patience for that

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  108. JT July 31st, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    And in no way is playing Adams (or Romine–which I agree with as well) throwing in the towel on the 2013 season.

    You’re talking about replacing career, jouneyman backups with high level prospects. This is a no-brainer in my mind.

  109. GregD July 31st, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    JT- the replacement of Stewart is long overdue…….he is a non-factor at the plate……like having the pitcher bat……

  110. DONNYBROOK July 31st, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Yanks are a $3 Billion Dollar Enterprise with Attendance Down, YES Viewship Down = Revenue DOWN. So why are they fiddling while Rome burns? DUMB

  111. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    MTU July 31st, 2013 at 6:21 pm
    AAO-

    I’m actually surprised by Adams thus far.

    All indications were that last thing to worry about with him was his hit tool.

    He’s been in their for a decent # of at bats and yet shown nothing.

    Perhaps he is still adjusting. I hope so because I really can’t believe he’s this bad with the stick.

    Unfortunately, the Yankees could use some production immediately.

    I guess if they have no one else

    ————————

    Maybe he is still adjusting even I myself forget that these guys are trying to learn at the highest level of competition. If the Yankees want to create an environment that feeds off of young players they need to make them feel comfortable as possible. Doesn’t mean handling them with kid gloves but encourage them instead of constant handwringing.

  112. bruceb July 31st, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Nick in SF

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    Money seems to be no object for Real. They get their man whatever the price…a bit like the Yankees used to do!

  113. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    GregD July 31st, 2013 at 6:21 pm
    young players don’t normally come into the league and perform at high levels right away…….patience will be required….Austin Jackson took several years to get to where he is……not sure Yankee fans have the patience for that

    ————————-

    That’s why they will never rebuild completely. Judging by Cashman’s comments regarding Sori he seems to want to rebuild who knows for sure.

    Anyway the fan base couldn’t handle the 08 transition yr let alone a full rebuild.

  114. DONNYBROOK July 31st, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    Adams does well offensively when he plays his natural position 2B. Obviously, that is Not gonna occur very often. I would go with Lillybrook over Adams at 3B, both offensively and defensively.

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    “Are you on BP meds…..yet? ;)”

    Truth. I went for my annual physical examination yesterday and my BP was 100/70. I’ve always run low.

    :)

  116. rm July 31st, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Can Soriano play some 3rd base after Grandy gets back?

  117. DONNYBROOK July 31st, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Cashman’s comments are just that. Comments. His opinion is irrelevant, though he continues to try and prove the opposite with his outrageous comments and conduct.

  118. MTU July 31st, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    AAO-

    I believe that was already tried with Adams.

    Remember when Girardi told him the position was his.

    That was to reassure him and make him feel comfortable.

    I don’t believe it helped much other than I think he may have walked a bit more.

    Like I said, if they don’t have anyone else then there’s little to lose by giving him more opportunities.

    I really wish they had someone who they knew could hit at better than replacement level though.

    At all of the positions where we are so badly underperforming. There are quite few.

    Maybe Adams will pick it up or we’ll get someone from the waiver wire.

    I used think we had a Cuban guy who deserved a shot but then I realized it was a figment of my imagination.

  119. Jesus Bustero July 31st, 2013 at 6:43 pm

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    Talk about clinging to a bust prospect until the last minute.

    Cashman should be ashamed at himself for miscalculating on this guy but he’s stuffing him down our throats until the bitter end.

    It’s unbelievable.

    Nobody wanted him – true – at Cashman’s price though.

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    I don’t think Cashman’s ever been the same since he was outed by Louise (who obviously didn’t) Meanwell.

  121. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    MTU July 31st, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    —————————

    True they have nothing to lose by giving him a shot to see what he has. Hopefully he can turn it around and at least get a on little bit of a roll.

  122. Hans Davenport July 31st, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    I thought BP stood for Bi-Polar?

  123. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2013 at 6:45 pm

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    ___________________________________________________________________________

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    ——

    Thanks for the offer. I guess I’m a little of both.

    I would love the opportunity to have best and most trusted orthopedic surgeon in the country tell me exactly what kind of damage I’ve got in my shoulder but the problem is that I live on the other side of the country (30 miles south of Chicago) and my insurance would never cover it.

    Again, though. Thanks for the offer.

  124. chicken_stanley July 31st, 2013 at 6:50 pm

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  125. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Austin, I thought we had settled the argument that George always did it right?

    He didn’t unless you’ve forgotten Dave Collins, Steve Kemp, Gullickson,Rhoden, Trout and Don Gullett to name a few?

    Or trading away Drabek, Buhner, Rijo, McGriff, McGhee etc.?

    But he was able to overcome many of the mistakes because he did out spend everyone.

    He papered over his errors!

    Now we have revenue sharing and caps, plus other orgs. have recognized the streams of income like over air rights as the keys to the kingdom.

    So, the playing field has been leveled and now we do have to be smarter etc.

    Which brings us back to who makes the decisions?

  126. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 31st, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    “Good evening Hans…. mind your manners :)

    chicken – he has none. Or put another way, you can’t embarass an ignorant person. Let him just continue to look like a white-trash over-the-hill punk. It fits him well.

  127. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    MG, did you post on the DN baseball blog?

    Do you remember my relationship with Redfish?

    Are you saying that YWN is Redfish who actually paid me a compliment?

    After all the abuse I heaped on him including the Hermosa Beach nonsense which I truly regret?

    If YWN is Redfish I would welcome the opportunity to tell him in my best Billy Eckstine baritone,”I Apologize”! ;)

    However I don’t think so, and while on the subject, why do posters feel it necessary to change their screen names? It makes no sense!

  128. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    MG, and while you’re in your detective mode, whom do you think I’m referring to with the question I asked YWN?

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    I’ve had both shoulders done and as with most surgical procedures , you’re never the same particularly if you are older.

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