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Deadline passes with no trade

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 31, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The trade deadline has passed and the Yankees have not agreed to any deal. A Yankees sources says there is “nothing happening.” Could have been an agreement not announced or leaked by now, but that seems to be not the case. No Michael Young. No Phil Hughes deal.

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160 Responses to “Deadline passes with no trade”

  1. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    At least Kuroda is accustomed to the batter’s eye in Dodgers Stadium – he may be our best offensive weapon tonight

  2. TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    It’s time for the Cashman circus to leave town. In the years he should do nothing and save prospects, he makes dumb deals. In the years he should do something, he sits on his hands and blames Hal.

    Enough already.

  3. saucY July 31st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    If Nunez is our best choice (offensively) for 3B for the rest of the season, we should’ve been sellers…. :/

  4. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    I swear if cashman says, well we have grandy coming this weekend which is better than a trade, i may lose my lunch.

  5. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    And who OK’ed the Kim Jones trade?

  6. TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Matt Moore to DL.

  7. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 44s
    Cashman will speak with beat writers at 4:30. Will be interesting to hear his take on the trade deadline and the Yankees’ lack of moves.

    What is there to even say?

    The Yankees did the worst possible thing by not committing one way or another. Either go all in to try to make the playoffs or sell everything off and go into full rebuild mode. It makes no sense to get Soriano then do nothing else. The Yankees are not a playoff team right now and will not have a chance in hell at the playoffs in 2014 unless they blow up their 189 plan which seems unlikely.

  8. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    borningest trade deadline ever

  9. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    you guys get the torches, I’ll get the battering rams

    Straw – you get the kegs

  10. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    when will Cash be making his annual “the prices made me want to run and cry” speech?

  11. sunny615 July 31st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    good job Cashman — GM of the year !! jackwipe.

  12. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Agree with patrick.
    This was the worst case scenario, not deciding on buy or sell, not even trading hughes…

  13. DAM23 July 31st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    I’d rather listen to nails on a chalkboard then listen to Cashman right now.

  14. pkyankfan69 July 31st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Since Joba had absolutely no value and he is just blocking Betances from getting a chance, can we just drop him now?

  15. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Blake, he spent the last three hours thinking of new 1 liners to joke about the market…..

  16. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    Cash doesn’t even know today WAS the deadline. He’s been handling his biz up in CT…I guarantee you he comes on the air for the presser with lipstick smeared all over his face and collar

  17. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    What do we think ?

    Was Cashman trying to make a deal ?

    or…

    Did he not take any/make any phone calls ?

  18. pkyankfan69 July 31st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    Agree with patrick.
    This was the worst case scenario, not deciding on buy or sell, not even trading hughes
    ——————————-
    I’d say close to worst case… We could have given away top prospects for 1/2 year rentals.

  19. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    The Yankees are 7 games out and over .500, has a team ever “sold” in that position? I doubt it.

    Especially not one playing through one of the worst injury plagues seasons imaginable.

  20. joeman July 31st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    just think we get to see Hughes take another turn in the rotation

  21. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    Good afternoon guys,

    Two things…. Hughes doesn´t have a ¨thing¨ with YS… Just that flyball pitchers don´t fare so well in it… We must either have RHP that generate ground balls ( Wang or Nova ), so they keep the ball inside the park or vet RHP with alot of pitching IQ ( Mussina, El Duque among others )… Power pitchers with high flyball rates will always suffer from pitching in YS… Also, LHP are good in YS because they supress power numbers in general and tend to pitch toward the big part of of the park ( LF/CF ).

    About Young, sure he should be an improvement over what we currently have in 3B… But adding another past his prime vet irks me… Also the price has to be very low on future.

  22. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    No deals, no decisions, no change in extension philosophy….
    Yeah it looks great moving forward.

  23. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    If it serves as consolation… At least the future wasn´t compromised as I feared

  24. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Cash right now doing rails off of George Steinbrenner’s plaque, to work up the courage to face the press

  25. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Hughes is going to be a rough reception in his home start if he struggles…..

  26. Ys Guy July 31st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    teams dont block trades post deadline like they used to. i see moves coming post deadline.

    there were very few moves across all of baseball, lots of buyers and lots of potential sellers, but really nothing got done.

  27. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Any chance we get a Hughes v. IPK matchup in San Diego?

  28. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    ac1 – When was the last time a pitcher got a good reception in a bad home start? The 60′s?

  29. bruceb July 31st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    I swear if cashman says, well we have grandy coming this weekend which is better than a trade, i may lose my lunch.

    I might to lose my breakfast too if he adds, well we have ARod coming back too!

  30. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Luis the future also wasnt made any better…..
    We still have no future ss, 3b, 1b……

  31. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    I can’t wait til G. Love weighs in

  32. saucY July 31st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    The Yankees are 7 games out and over .500, has a team ever “sold” in that position? I doubt it.

    Especially not one playing through one of the worst injury plagues seasons imaginable.

    -=-=-=
    but they didn’t really buy much, so why even show up to the flea market?

  33. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    the trade deadline winner was Jeff Loria and the Marlins…no rumors, no heat, no pressure

  34. DAM23 July 31st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Fish or cut bait. Yanks did neither. 2 more months of watching dead team walking.

  35. Ys Guy July 31st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    hughes is gonna pitch great in SD. then he’ll get to start at home vs. the tigers and it will be ugly, imo.\

    i hope they pitch phil in sd then insert phelps in his spot, but i dont think that’s going to happen.

  36. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Agree with patrick.
    This was the worst case scenario, not deciding on buy or sell, not even trading hughes…

    Three possible scenarios:

    1. Trade for some players and go all in for 2013. Good chance of making the playoffs and who knows what happens when they get there. Due to next year’s budget, regardless of what the Yankees do now it’s unlikely they make the playoffs next year.

    2. Trade off all valuable assets for prospects. Zero chance at making the playoffs in 2013 and 2014 but recovery in 2015 and beyond is much more likely.

    3. Do nothing. Very small chance of making the playoffs in 2013.. maybe 5%? Equally small chance of making the playoffs in 2014 as mentioned in #1. Farm system gets no boost.

    Not really sure what Cashman was thinking here. Sometimes you just have to be realistic…

  37. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Cashman is definitely going to say that the best move is that they have bats coming off the DL. No one wants to hear his nonsense.

  38. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    You all could save Cashman a lot of time if you would give him your sources. Obviously you have all spoken to more GM’s today than he has.

    I instantly remember why I stopped coming here.

  39. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 37s
    The lack of moves at the deadline can be directly related to the 2nd wild card spot. Only 8 of the 30 teams are 10+ games out of playoffs.

    This is 100% correct. The extra wild cards mean a lot more teams are “in it” for a lot longer than usual. It would make a great deal of sense to get rid of the july 31 trade deadline and just move it back to August 30 to coincide with the waiver deadline.

  40. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    So we missed an oppotunity to sell and they think Alfonso Soriano is putting us over the top? Ok……

  41. Ys Guy July 31st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    marlins did great the past year, they dont have to make any moves.

    marlins finishing up their 2nd consecutive winnng month are loaded with young talent from toronto (buehrle and reyes) and the dodgers (nolasco)

  42. jskwrite July 31st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Release Joba, Hughes to the bullpen Phelps starting (eventually Pineda when arm is built up)… win by subtraction in the pitching staff.

    Offense… 3b is a black hole and they did nothing to help there.. even if A-Rod magically returns still pretty “blah”… C is rapidly becoming a bit of a hole too… But getting Grandy back helps offense right away…

    I wish they could have “sold” a bit, but I realized there really wasn’t a perfect guy for them to trade to get something back useful for next year or future.

  43. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    1. Cashman steps before the mic, says “here is our player for the rest of this season”

    2. out steps Alex Rodriguez.

    3. The two of them laugh and pose with fists raised, a la pics taken at a prize fight weigh in.

    4. Boom goes the cash register.

  44. ac1 July 31st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Cash can talk about returning hitters all he wants.
    Grandy will definitely help, but we cannot have overbay lefty on lefty, and definitely cannot deal with nix at 3b everyday. Aros is not going to be allowed to play and cashman knows that.

  45. UnKnown July 31st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Kill me now

  46. pkyankfan69 July 31st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    The Yankees should just make a recording of Cashman saying “Prices were just too high” to play at every offseason and TD press conference so he does not injure his vocal chords constantly repeating the new company line.

  47. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:18 pm
    You all could save Cashman a lot of time if you would give him your sources. Obviously you have all spoken to more GM’s today than he has.

    I instantly remember why I stopped coming here.
    ======================================

    Bear with it….some VG posting here among the obvious idiot posts.

  48. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    prices were too high….we felt like getting Granderson and Alex ( oh wait) back would be like making big tradesl…….blarty blarty blar……

  49. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Yanks are where they are now because the entire lineup has been on the DL this year. Can’t see how we have no shot at the playoffs next year when I’m sure we won’t be as unlucky with them. Also I can’t see how Hal stays with th 189 budget after what he’s seen this season. He can’t be that stupid thinking we can compete that way. Since the Yankees have always been about using their wallets to get good players.

  50. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    If prices were so high why not trade Cano, Kuroda, whatever else teams want and get a king’s ransom? Kuroda and Cano would have been huge in this market

  51. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    ac1,

    Agreed.. But at least they didn´t hinder even further the future of the franchise, that´s a plus on my book… they could have traded the bulk of our farm… And that´s a positive

    Blake,

    After a few unprintable exclamations ;) He will say that our season is over

  52. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    The Dodgers acquired catcher Drew Butera from the Twins.

    ====================

    Yes, the LA Dodgers.

    Anyone crying that we missed this one ?

    Any ripping that would of went on if we traded for this guy ???

  53. Chambliss July 31st, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    I can’t wait for Cashman to say “I like our team as it is, so we did not make any deals…”

    It will be a miracle if this team makes the postseason.

    I suppose they have a better chance at making waiver deals. As they continue to lose games, fewer teams will be ahead of them in the claiming process.

    Big Stein made some bonehead moves for sure, but he always tried. The Yankees have all kinds of arms they could have moved, or even packaged. Hughes, Joba, Logan, etc. Basically anyone buy Robertson and Mo.

  54. jackamir July 31st, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    I’m cancelling my MLB package. As an out of state Yankee fan for 60 years I don’t see why I want to watch this team…It is really a depressing day for Yankee fans.. What free agents would want to come in the future? Bad Team with bad Management…

  55. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Patrick,

    Good post… I would have gone with alternative number two… But do you trust our FO to get the talent this team needs? >Because i don´t

  56. Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    I made sure Cash knew where I’d be today, but my phone didn’t ring once even tho I’ve been getting back into playing shape for at least a week.

  57. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    “If prices were so high why not trade Cano, Kuroda, whatever else teams want and get a king’s ransom? Kuroda and Cano would have been huge in this market”

    that’s what I’ve been saying but everyone tells me to pipe down…..we have a chance!

  58. blake July 31st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    The plan is patience.

  59. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:23 pm
    If prices were so high why not trade Cano, Kuroda, whatever else teams want and get a king’s ransom? Kuroda and Cano would have been huge in this market

    ======================

    yes

  60. Ys Guy July 31st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    pretty much nobody pulled the trigger on any big deals. the RS settled for peavy, the o’s settled for norris and no big names moved at all. which means nobody was meeting anyone else’s prices.

    not getting the draft pick on ‘rental’ players had a big effect here, imo.

  61. fantasygame101 July 31st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Cashman really deserve GM of the yr. If ishikawa acquisition did not nail it, this non move surely will. No other GM can stand pat with so many holes on this team, it takes a very good gm to not find a single solution to one problem.

  62. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    If prices were so high why not trade Cano, Kuroda, whatever else teams want and get a king’s ransom? Kuroda and Cano would have been huge in this market

    ——

    That’s precisely what they should have done.

    If the prices were really high, trade your own assets and take advantage of it.

    At least they didn’t make another stupid trade taking on yet another guy pushing 40yrs old who is signed for 2014.

  63. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    that’s what I’ve been saying but everyone tells me to pipe down…..we have a chance!

    ===========================

    FTR…. Not me Blake, I have been in your corner all the way ;)

  64. Ys Guy July 31st, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    nobody got a boatload of prospects for anyone. why do you think the yankees would have gotten them for their players when nobody else did?

  65. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    “pretty much nobody pulled the trigger on any big deals. the RS settled for peavy, the o’s settled for norris and no big names moved at all. which means nobody was meeting anyone else’s prices.

    not getting the draft pick on ‘rental’ players had a big effect here, imo.”

    Yes, Yes, YES! Also the second wildcard has a lot of pretenders pretending.

    No impact players were moved. If the Yankees acquired any of them they would be WORSE today than they are.

    Really don’t see the big deal. I thought the second time Granderson got hurt the sky would have crushed a few more of you than it did.

  66. TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Luis,

    Do we even know at this point if the “bulk of our farm” is even MLB level? The track record hasn’t been so good at development. If anything, we had a surplus of pitching, especially relief pitching which could have been turned into some postional prospects at least.

  67. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    If you were going to trade Kuroda and cano cashman would of needed to get a Myers, trout type hitting prospect and a elite pitching prospect in return. If not there would be no point.

    Thars just how I feel if we were to trade those 2.

  68. luis July 31st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    If prices were so high why not trade Cano, Kuroda, whatever else teams want and get a king’s ransom? Kuroda and Cano would have been huge in this market

    ——

    That’s precisely what they should have done.

    If the prices were really high, trade your own assets and take advantage of it.

    At least they didn’t make another stupid trade taking on yet another guy pushing 40yrs old who is signed for 2014.

    ————————

    GF,

    That´s the positive GF… At least they didn´t hinder the future further by getting another mid 30´s past his prime vet.

  69. Madrugador July 31st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    I don’t know what everyone is complaining about. This team couldn’t buy because it had too many holes to fill and too little talent in the minor league system as trade material to fill those holes. It couldn’t sell for similar reasons. They need to keep what little they have for the future. Should they have traded Banuelos? Murphy? Warren? Sanchez? And what one player was going to put them over the top? It was pretty clear that Hughes (beyond a compensatory draft pick) and Joba just didn’t have any value. I for one am glad they didn’t trade what little talent they have.
    Color me surprised if they make the playoffs this year.

  70. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    nobody got a boatload of prospects for anyone. why do you think the yankees would have gotten them for their players when nobody else did?

    Kuroda and Cano would have been the best pitcher and best position player on the market.

  71. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    “I’m cancelling my MLB package. As an out of state Yankee fan for 60 years I don’t see why I want to watch this team…”

    To watch Brett Gardner lead off and play CF?

  72. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    *that’s

  73. zoe3mia3 July 31st, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    The Yankees NEVER learn.
    They should have learned from the red sox last year they knew they where out so they blew up the team. But not the Yankees they are by a miracle with this record because they have played so bad its just so boring to watch. When Pirates and Royals games are more fun you know your team sucks. Yet the Yankees management thinks their in it, but in it to what to be the laughing stock of mlb and embarrassed them self’s like they did last year. Not to mention most of those players who’s bats did nothing are gone or are injured this year. Why not trade Cano, CC, Kuroda, Robertson, Logan and Granderson. Or just anyone who you can get some good prospects for. This team well be the same next year. Ownership wants to cut money so no free agents. And they can’t trade prospects because no one wants them because they are most the product of the New York hype. So the team well suck o but they well have Jeter and Tex back am sorry but they are both done. And I admire Jeter more than any other player but he’s best days are over. Our Yankees well suck for the next 4 to 5 years or maybe more if they keep thinking their a player away from winning it all like they have been the past 3 years. Our beloved Yankees need a real Ace a closer, catcher, 3d baseman, SS, LF and 2 other solid starting pitchers and that’s next year and hoping that they sign Cano and Tex can still play the field. Its going to be a mess.

  74. Chambliss July 31st, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

    7% chance of making the postseason. To make it, the Yankees will have to overtake Baltimore, Cleveland and Texas. How is that going to happen with CC pitching so poorly?

    Kuroda is the only reliable starter at this point.

  75. RayVT July 31st, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    All I can remember is the Yanks almost traded Mo many years ago & they didn’t and look how that turned out. Maybe we have someone like that this year that stayed with us.

    I am a Yankee fan & always will be, but that doesn’t mean I won’t complain about them or defend them.

    IMO, Michael young was not a helpful piece. I would call C Lee a helpful piece. I for one want Phil Hughes to stay in NY but to turn things around. He has the talent.

    By far the biggest get in AL East is the O’s getting Norris. He is good & will help them.

  76. TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    “At least they didn´t hinder the future further by getting another mid 30´s past his prime vet.”

    Young has an expiring contract. What wouldve been the big deal? And they really didn’t wan’t to do it, they should name Adams as the starter for the rest of the year.

  77. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    Most people here think the team isn’t making the postseason, yet most still torture themselves by watching the games. Hard to figure out

  78. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Hassey July 31st, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    Cash right now doing rails off of George Steinbrenner’s plaque, to work up the courage to face the press

    —————————

    I literally laughed hysterically when I read this. I’m going to use rails instead of lines from now on. At least the deadline is not a complete waste.

  79. Chambliss July 31st, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    The deal between the Red Sox and Dodgers aka a Christmas gift by the Dodgers to the Sox was done after the trade deadline last year, so perhaps there is still hope.

  80. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Chambliss – 7% chance only if they keep playing the way they have been, adding granderson changes everything. Hopefully CC makes some adjustments as well.

    jackamir – “As an out of state Yankee fan for 60 years I don’t see why I want to watch this team…”
    Is watching the team actually have to play hard to make the playoffs so horrible for you? Are you only interested when they are running the table? How boring.

  81. saucY July 31st, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    ok. i’m not angry any more.

    now bring on the waivers!

  82. Ys Guy July 31st, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    norris sucks, getting feldman a few weeks ago was a better get, norris is just an arm, imo.

  83. UnKnown July 31st, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    ID your posts about how crappy everyone here at lohud is are really intetesting. Nobody asked where you have been, surprisingly.

  84. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    7% chance of making playoffs when we are only 3 behind the o’s? Texas could be losing Cruz too.

    So I can’t say I agree with that.

  85. Patrick July 31st, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Most people here think the team isn’t making the postseason, yet most still torture themselves by watching the games. Hard to figure out

    How is this hard to figure out? Any true fan would continue watching a team regardless of their playoff chances.

  86. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    UnKnown – Luckily I’m not here for your approval.

  87. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    ————————–

    If Cashman did a better job building up the farm the outrage that fans have wouldn’t be as bad as it is. Hal put a lock on the wallet and Cash can’t develop players so we are in this mess.

  88. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    “that’s what I’ve been saying but everyone tells me to pipe down…..we have a chance!”

    I did not tell you to pipe down — did I? — I just didn’t think your prescription was realistic. For better of worse!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJwALX5riiU

  89. UpState July 31st, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 4:38 pm
    Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    ————————–

    If Cashman did a better job building up the farm the outrage that fans have wouldn’t be as bad as it is. Hal put a lock on the wallet and Cash can’t develop players so we are in this mess.
    ========================================

    Yet we hug our prospects here until the snot shoots out their noses, yes ???

  90. UnKnown July 31st, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    Just here to make yourself miserable huh

  91. Against All Odds July 31st, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    UnKnown July 31st, 2013 at 4:20 pm
    Kill me now

    —————–

    We don’t need to add homicide to the crimes the Yankees have committed this season lol.

  92. comnsnse July 31st, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    End of the world, no trades but continued whining!

    Cashman is finally to be commended for not caving to either other teams demands or his owners.

    Someone asked earlier ,”then why Soriano”? Cashman did not want Soriano and has said so numerous times!

    He has assessed the Yankee chances of playoffs found it unlikely , and will move on to the off season when time becomes a friend not the enemy.

    Resign Cano move him to third, entice Kuroda to return, resign Grandy short term, give Nunez a shot at second and cross your fingers that a prospect or two finally makes his mark!

    Maybe this is Cashman’s “statement to ownership and the committee to fire me or let me do my job!

    The boy may have grown some cojones!

  93. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Yeah that true but would everybody here really watch 130-140 games next year if we lose 95 games next year?

  94. UnKnown July 31st, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Aao :lol:

  95. Madrugador July 31st, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Patrick:
    “How is this hard to figure out? Any true fan would continue watching a team regardless of their playoff chances.”

    Well said.

  96. TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    The point is, if they are really not interested in reshaping the team, they should have been able to pull off a deal to improve at their weakest position. 3B is a black hole of offense.

  97. Nick in SF July 31st, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    The General Manager speaks :arrow:

  98. Irreverent Discourse July 31st, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    AAO – Sure, but what were we willing to lose/give up to build up that farm? Where is the Yankees “sucker” Like the Redsox had the Dodgers and the Marlins had the BlueJays?

    You can’t just simply “buy or sell” things because you have a desire to, you need a partner to do business with.

    Even with a partner, you can’t just move $20m/year contracts on a whim. A-Rod, Teixeira, CC, Jeter are all full no-trade.

  99. jackamir July 31st, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    Yeah Nick—– I can watch Gardner get on base and not steal…The worst baseball instincts since Posada was there!!!!

  100. TheStraw July 31st, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    “Maybe this is Cashman’s “statement to ownership and the committee to fire me or let me do my job!”

    Which would be great if he were better at assessing baseball talent. The Youkilis and Wells moves speak for themselves.

  101. umbrelladoc July 31st, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Well, the plan is to go with quantity vs quality. Grandy is due back – and assuming no AROD – or heaven forbid Youkilis, this is what I think you go in with.

    vs R.
    Gardner CF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Soriano DH
    Granderson LF
    Ichiro RF
    Overbay 1B
    Nunez 3B
    Stewart C
    vs L
    Gardner CF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Soriano DH
    Granderson LF
    Wells 1B
    Ichiro RF
    Nix 3B
    Stewart C
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  102. jlyanks85 July 31st, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Like I said earlier if you were going to trade Kuroda or cano, especially cano we needed to get a Mike trout like prospect back in return, if we didn’t there would be no point.

    Don’t want to trade him to end up having another AAAA player as our best piece in a trade.

  103. mnmboys July 31st, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    ARod will appeal and play during appeal. I think Yanks knew this and thus no deal for a 3B

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    Luis,

    Do we even know at this point if the “bulk of our farm” is even MLB level? The track record hasn’t been so good at development. If anything, we had a surplus of pitching, especially relief pitching which could have been turned into some postional prospects at least.

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    No, Straw… Most of it is not MLB ready players… hence the inevitable down period we are going to go through… But trading them might mean an even longer down period… So it is a positive to me.

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    I don’t know what everyone is complaining about. This team couldn’t buy because it had too many holes to fill and too little talent in the minor league system as trade material to fill those holes.
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  106. joecembrale July 31st, 2013 at 5:40 pm

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  107. GregD July 31st, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    there was nothing or very little available out there to help us……and I can’t see us trading any good prospects for Michael Young……he’s an upgrade over what we have but he is old and won’t help us in the future….we have several of those now….

  108. Duh Innings II July 31st, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Cashman has ran his course. Time for him to re-sign or be fired if the Yanks miss the postseason.

    He lets go of Martin who signs with Pittsburgh for $17M across two years yet gives Wells, Suzuki, Boesch, and Brignac $28.899M combined.

    He lets go of Chavez who signs with Arizona for a year and $3M yet gives Youkilis four times that and double what 29-year old power-hitting 3B Mark Reynolds took from Cleveland.

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