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Rodriguez’s lawyer: MLB’s case will “never stand up”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 19, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alex RodriguezNEW YORK (AP) — Major League Baseball’s evidence against Alex Rodriguez is so weak he shouldn’t serve even one inning of his 211-game suspension, the lawyer for the Yankees slugger said Monday.

Joe Tacopina told NBC’s “Today” show that the case will “never stand up” in court or before an arbitrator. The league recently suspended Rodriguez, along with more than a dozen other players, for their relationship with a clinic accused of distributing performance-enhancing drugs.

Rodriguez appealed the penalty and can play until there is a ruling. MLB’s case is based on evidence from Biogenesis clinic founder Anthony Bosch, who Tacopina said has “no credibility.”

“I know the evidence against Alex Rodriguez, and I will tell you this: It will never stand up in a court of law or in an arbitration-panel courtroom. Never,” Tacopina told host Matt Lauer.

“Alex Rodriguez, when we confront this evidence, will have been found not responsible to the point where he shouldn’t serve one inning of a suspension as opposed to 211 games,” Tacopina said. “I know the evidence in this case.”

Lauer asked Tacopina if A-Rod would have agreed to a 50-game ban, as 12 other players did without appealing.

“If he listens to me, if I were advising him based on the evidence and based on what I know about the evidence,” Tacopina said, “I would tell him, ‘Don’t take one inning, Alex. Forget 50 games. Don’t take one inning.’”

Rodriguez and Yankees management have been feuding, too. The club still owes him more than $80 million through 2017.

Tacopina said the Yankees concealed results of an October MRI from Rodriguez that showed he had a torn hip socket. He played poorly and was benched in a postseason series against Detroit. Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said the team’s medical personnel “did everything they possibly can to assist Alex.”

Cashman said Rodriguez never complained of any problem during the playoffs until manager Joe Girardi pulled him for a pinch-hitter in a key spot.

“Did he ever say he didn’t feel right? He never said it,” the GM said.

“You see the attorney say what he said and Alex is talking to you guys after the game and it seems like when I’m reading the comments, it’s like, ‘I can’t really comment.’ It’s as if he doesn’t know anything about it, which we all know he really does,” Cashman said Sunday.

Asked why the Yankees would keep the MRI results from Rodriguez, Tacopina suggested it could be because they wanted to make Rodriguez into a “scapegoat.”

“I don’t understand why,” Tacopina said. “I don’t understand the motivation behind it.”

The lawyer said the MRI was done Oct. 11, after Game 4 of the Yankees’ series against Baltimore in the first round. The three-time AL MVP went 3 for 25 with 12 strikeouts in the 2012 postseason, and the Yankees were swept in the ALCS by the Tigers.

This season, the 38-year-old Rodriguez was sidelined by a hip injury and quadriceps problem until he made his season debut Aug. 5 — the same day MLB handed down his suspension.

Rodriguez is hitting .319 with two homers and six RBIs this season. He went 3 for 4 with a solo homer in the Yankees’ 9-6 win over the Red Sox on Sunday night.

After the game, Rodriguez said he had started the process of filing a grievance against the Yankees and that it’s the responsibility of the players’ union to file it formally.

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84 Responses to “Rodriguez’s lawyer: MLB’s case will “never stand up””

  1. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    blake August 19th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Alex has nothing to lose now. He did then. Many employees do the same thing everyday.

  2. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Chad – you left out the best parts…

    When Tacopina said he would love to talk about the case in more depth but couldn’t because of the confidentiality agreement and Lauer showed him a letter from MLB saying that they would be happy to waive that as long as he signed the letter so that they could all put their cards on the table.

    And when Tacopina said that one of the reasons Bosch had no credibility was because MLB was paying for his legal defense and Lauer pointed out that Alex also paid Bosch’s lawyers.

  3. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Trisha,
    I played baseball. (Liitle League to College & semi-pro in the Valley Leagues in VA.) As a player you take so much for granted that the team is looking out for you until you realize they aren’t. Perspective shatters a lot of our memory of good times. What Randy is saying is based on his viewpoint. What I have learned over the years is multiple viewpoints are needed to understand the whole picture.

    I like both you & Randy! I like your differences & that both of you are Yankee fans!

    To me this is where the blind men describe the proverbial elephant based on their point of contact with the elephant. All are right, but the sum total is different.

  4. Tar August 19th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    “The lawyer said the MRI was done Oct. 11, after Game 4 of the Yankees’ series against Baltimore in the first round. The three-time AL MVP went 3 for 25 with 12 strikeouts in the 2012 postseason, and the Yankees were swept in the ALCS by the Tigers.”

    Lets assume the Yankee Doctors are pillars of integrity,He took the MRI on OCt 11th, How do you explain when the Doctors informed Alex of the results of his MRI?

  5. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Tacopina said they decided to offer to pay legal fees to even the field since MLB had already assured Bosch they would do so & that MLB would try to persuade the FEDs to drop their charges against him too. (Like selling PEDs to minors kind of thingy!)

    I heard his words on the radio this AM.

  6. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Tacopina said they decided to offer to pay legal fees to even the field since MLB had already assured Bosch they would do so & that MLB would try to persuade the FEDs to drop their charges against him too. (Like selling PEDs to minors kind of thingy!)

    I heard his words on the radio this AM.
    ——————–

    They didn’t offer – they actually paid. A $25k retainer and then another $50k that was returned to Alex because the lawyer didn’t know why he was still paying her.

  7. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Still 6 games back… these past two series wins just show how hard it will be to even compete for a spot.

  8. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    If we’re still 6 games back in the next two weeks I’d say we’re officially cooked.

  9. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    It seems in business everything is cost benefit.

    Some things don’t seem reasonable to the naked eye!
    1.) Posada’s treatment by Cash @ Boston Game.
    2.) Smearing Jeter during contract talks.
    3.) ARod’s series last year in the playoffs.
    4.) Cash saying stfu
    5.) MRIs
    6.) ARod’s paranoia
    7.) Red Sox bringing in a medical Dr to talk to their team in 2009 about how to use PEDs.
    8.) Dave Winfield ordeal.

  10. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    LOL! They offered $25K & it was accepted. They offered $50K more & it wasn’t.

  11. JT August 19th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Shame….26-13 needed in the final 39 games. 90 wins and they sneak into the dance.

  12. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    It seems in business everything is cost benefit.

    Some things don’t seem reasonable to the naked eye!
    1.) Posada’s treatment by Cash @ Boston Game.
    2.) Smearing Jeter during contract talks.
    3.) ARod’s series last year in the playoffs.
    4.) Cash saying stfu
    5.) MRIs
    6.) ARod’s paranoia
    7.) Red Sox bringing in a medical Dr to talk to their team in 2009 about how to use PEDs.
    8.) Dave Winfield ordeal.
    ————————–

    Right, and with that in mind, look at what could have happened if the Yankees were found to be covering up medical information and trying to injure one of their own players:

    1. Lawsuits against the team and malpractice suits against the doctors
    2. Immediate suspension of the entire training staff I would assume
    3. Suspensions or outright revocations of the licenses of all physicians involved
    4. No free agent in their right mind being willing to sign with the organization

  13. MG August 19th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Getting back to baseball for a minute, I don’t think CC is going to be effective on a consistent basis for the rest of this season.

    His arm and elbow are OK, it is command and that doesn’t get turned around in a bullpen session. He should be able to win at 91-93 because of his secondary stuff but he’s making way too many bad pitches.

    I think he will be OK next year but it’s pretty obvious he’s lost some confidence and needs to learn how to adjust to the lower fastball velocity-that’s something that’s better addressed in the offseason.

    Mussina had a terrible year, everyone thought he was through, and had maybe his best season the following year.

    I’m pretty sure CC will work on his issues during the offseason and in spring training in 2014 and be OK but every start for the rest of the season is going to be an unknown.

    I really hope to be wrong about this, of course…

  14. JT August 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    RayVT….I do think it’s fair to say that senior management has not exactly distinguished itself here.

  15. jacksquat August 19th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Trisha, you are biased to think that money would be a motivation for Arod but not for the Yankees.

    You and some others here have obviously chosen a stance and then filtered information to fit that stance, rather than the other way around.

    Typical for a lawyer, but not good for judgment.

  16. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    The Yanks are 6 games back in Loss column of Texas/Oak who play each other 6 games both having 53 losses now. Most likely result is a 4-2 split so WC team would have 57 losses. Yanks are now tied with KC in losses & only 1 behind Indians. 3-back of O’s though. Here is an overview of tough games remaining: (IMO, Yanks still have a very good chance.)

    Yanks August 19, 2013
    *****************************************************
    0.) Boston Has 22 Tough Games (53 Losses)
    NYY-7; Balt-9; TB-3; LAD-3
    *****************************************************
    DIVISION LEADER
    *****************************************************
    0.) Texas Has 16 Tough Games (53 Losses)
    Oak-6; KC-3; TB-4; Pitt-3
    *****************************************************
    DIVISION LEADER
    *****************************************************
    1.) Tampa Has 24 Tough Games (52 Losses)
    Boston-3; Balt-7; NYY-6; Tex-4; KC-1; OAK-3
    *****************************************************
    1.) Oak Has 13 Tough Games (53 Losses)
    Balt-3; Det-4; Texas-6
    *****************************************************
    WILDCARD LEADERS
    *****************************************************
    2.) Balt Has 29 Tough Games (56 Losses)
    TB-7; NYY-7; Cleve-3; Oak-3; Boston-9
    *****************************************************
    3.) Cleve Has 15 Tough Games (58 Losses)
    Balt-3; Det-3; KC-6; ATL-3
    *****************************************************
    4.) Yankees Has 20 Tough Games (59 Losses)
    Boston-7; Balt-7; TB-6
    *****************************************************
    5.) KC Has 16 Tough Games (59 Losses)
    Det-6; Tex-3; TB-1; Cleve-6
    *****************************************************

  17. MG August 19th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    If Yankees management were to be guilty of the alleged cover up it would be grounds for termination of the entire management team-they would have absolutely no credibility in baseball forever.

    If that meant forcing Hal and Hank to sell the team ‘for the good of baseball’ I’m OK with that as well.

    The consequences of this kind of action, though, are so bad, it’s difficult to imagine them doing so.

  18. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    I concur, except I believe that Management (Yankees FO) truly believe they are above such things as they are the Yankees FO management. LOL!

  19. Northy August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Why dont the Yankees and Jays play today instead of a DH tomorrow?

  20. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    JT August 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    RayVT….I do think it’s fair to say that senior management has not exactly distinguished itself here.
    ——————–

    No they haven’t. But at the same time, I can understand a certain level of frustration boiling over with them in their dealings with Alex.

  21. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    MG August 19th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Et tu Brute!

  22. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Northy August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Why dont the Yankees and Jays play today instead of a DH tomorrow?
    ——————

    Because a double header never hurt anyone

  23. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    I truly agree there. But it still doesn’t make their actions right.

  24. MTU August 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    I can add this to the mix.

    A-Rod hip problems are likely a congenital defect of the Femoral head.

    That usually occurs in pairs.

    The Femoral head develops with an elliptical rather than rounded shape.

    If A-rod’s left hip wasn’t examined when they found the problem with his first hip then I believe whoever was doing the examining was not thorough enough.

    The other hip should have been checked right away for the same abnormality just to be safe.

    It merely required a little more time and a few extra X-Rays.

    Perhaps YT, Doc Joe, or jmv can confirm what I’m saying.

  25. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    If we’re still 6 games back in the next two weeks I’d say we’re officially cooked.
    ——————–

    Probably.

    Though there are so many head to heads with Boston, Tampa and Baltimore that anything can happen.

  26. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    LOL! Someone has to be the parent/adult.

  27. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    I truly agree there. But it still doesn’t make their actions right.
    ————————-

    I’m not saying they’re behaving the right way, just that I understand why they’re behaving as they are.

  28. MTU August 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Off to the gym for a workout.

    Catch you all later.

  29. tomingeorgia August 19th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Northy,
    Because they need to five Stewie a day off before catching both ends tomorrow.

  30. pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    “It’s just very unlikely that any doctor especially renowned surgeons would put their careers at risk to help a baseball team get out of a contact…..it’s ridiculous”

    What I heard Tacopina say is that Ahmad read the MRI and noted that Alex had a tear in his labrum. The question is if that was communicated to Alex from the Yankees.

  31. randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    mg
    yankees need CC.

    i agree he’s going to have to do some fast learning to get back to being CC.

    yanks need pitching to complement being MURDERERS ROW again :)

  32. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    LOL! Someone has to be the parent/adult.
    —————————-

    And I think what they’re doing now is absolutely correct. You want to throw mud at us Alex, that’s fine…any time you would like us to open up your records so that you can show the world all the “evidence” you have that we mistreated you, you let us know…we’ll be happy to oblige.

    Ball is in his court – if he and his lawyer keep backing away from that offer and instead just throw out more talking points, then we know that the BS meter is going off the chart.

  33. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    JT August 19th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Shame….26-13 needed in the final 39 games. 90 wins and they sneak into the dance.

    ——————-

    I think both the Rays and A’s will win more than 90… I think we need 92-93 to make it.

  34. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    “It’s just very unlikely that any doctor especially renowned surgeons would put their careers at risk to help a baseball team get out of a contact…..it’s ridiculous”

    What I heard Tacopina say is that Ahmad read the MRI and noted that Alex had a tear in his labrum. The question is if that was communicated to Alex from the Yankees.
    ———————–

    It has to be. Ahmad can’t have a conversation about Alex’s medical results without Alex in the room.

  35. Northy August 19th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    A DH dont hurt anybody, but was just curious since they both have an off day today…

  36. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    MG – Totally agree on CC and have made the comparison myself. We’ll see CC be more of a ground out rather than strike out pitcher going forward.. I’m almost sure of it. He needs to work on that slider and keeping his fastball low and in the zone.

  37. Tar August 19th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    “Because they need to five Stewie a day off before catching both ends tomorrow.”

    :D good one Tom.

  38. Tar August 19th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    I would like to commend Shame for continually trying to steer the conversation back to where it should be.. The Yankees and an actual pennant race!

    Hey we are in the dog days aren’t we….funny things have happened during this time. Can’t wait for Jeet to come back.

  39. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    So back to baseball for a second.

    With Nunez hurt Nix will probably start at SS for one game tomorrow, but does he play both there and have Alex play two in the field, do you DH Alex in one game and have Reynolds at 3b or do you make a roster move and call up Adams?

  40. tomingeorgia August 19th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Tar,
    Thanks. One of the true mysteries I have is Joe’s punitive over-use of Stewart this season, and that’s nothing against Stewart.

  41. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    tomingeorgia August 19th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Tar,
    Thanks. One of the true mysteries I have is Joe’s punitive over-use of Stewart this season, and that’s nothing against Stewart.
    —————————–

    He thinks that Stewart is better at working the pitchers through the game – early on I would have agreed with him because Romine really didn’t play much this spring and so Stewart had the better rapport, but now that shouldn’t be the case.

    What’s more – it’s a disservice to both players. Romine has always been a starter and naturally is having trouble producing in limited at bats whereas Stewart has always been a part time player and is wearing down having to play every day.

  42. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Agreed! understand!

  43. randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    “I would like to commend Shame for continually trying to steer the conversation back to where it should be.. The Yankees and an actual pennant race!”

    tar-

    yes , she’s doing a damn good job too.

    7.5 games is no big deal if they get hot. it can be done.

    i do think it’s easier to catch the red sox then win a wild card.
    that’s just intuition.
    i may be wrong .

    maybe jerkface will weigh in on the odds.

    is it easier to catch one team 7.5 games ahead or leap over three or four teams for a wild card?

  44. MG August 19th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    MG – Totally agree on CC and have made the comparison myself. We’ll see CC be more of a ground out rather than strike out pitcher going forward.. I’m almost sure of it. He needs to work on that slider and keeping his fastball low and in the zone.
    ——————–
    he also needs to pitch inside more, particularly to righties, but he’s fighting that now because of the loss in confidence.

    I think he’ll be fine next year and for the rest of his contract because he really hasn’t lost that much on his fastball, he just needs to adjust but it’s really tough to do that in the middle of a season and pennant race…

  45. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Tar – No poster could be accused of getting off topic as much as I do but man, baseball finally got interesting again and this conversation keeps coming back to Alex. I don’t mind talking about Alex.. it’s Yankees related, incredibly fascinating and a generally polarizing topic (which usually makes for good discussion) – but if there’s real baseball to discuss I’d rather do that.

    Again, I’m all for a good distraction but right now the team itself is actually interesting and fun to watch.. I’m putting off making our LoHud book club list until further notice…

  46. randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    mg-

    mussina refused to throw extreme up and in for almost 7-8 years. he was so good he got away with it until the last few years.

    the way i understand it is that eiland and giradi in his last year sat him down and told him he either pitches up and in or he goes to the bullpen.

    well, that’s when he had the twenty wins. it worked.

    musiina would have been a lock for the hall of fame had he took their advice earlier.

  47. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    4 games against Toronto starting tomorrow right..??

    This would be a good time to clean up a little… Toronto has been a mess all year with only a few random spurts of playing good ball. We need 3 out of 4 just like we got against the Angels. That double header is going to be a tough one… you drop one there and you need to win the next two.

    Over/under on whether we actually get to see Romine during the double header lol…???

  48. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    I didn’t realize we have 7 games against the Jays coming up in the next two weeks…. have to dominate them.

    I’m also looking forward to that rematch against the White Sox in the first week of September. Payback would be sooooo sweet.

  49. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    So, just because I’m not a nice person – if I was with MLB I would ambush Alex directly tomorrow the same way they hammered his lawyer this morning.

    Wait for the media throng to surround him pregame then walk up and say that you understand that he and his lawyer want to talk in detail about the case but can’t because of the confidentiality clause, present him with a waiver and ask him if he would care to sign it. Also send a copy via email to Tacopina and copy every media outlet on it with a note saying that MLB would be happy to open up Alex’s process to the public.

  50. Mordot11 August 19th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    If Alex is going to play like this, the front office should be happy to pay him every cent of that contract.

  51. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    musiina would have been a lock for the hall of fame had he took their advice earlier.

    —————-

    I think Moose belongs… he and Posada being considered bubble players is beyond comprehension.

    If Mike gets in do you think he shows up for the ceremony? Or would the food offerings in upstate NY be too foreign for him?

  52. pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “Ahmad can’t have a conversation about Alex’s medical results without Alex in the room.”

    That’s not true. Per the CBA, every player signs a waiver every spring that gives team designated personnel access to medical information from team designated providers.

  53. randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    “Or would the food offerings in upstate NY be too foreign for him?”

    huh?

    back story please :)

  54. JobaTipsHisCap August 19th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    the show is so awesome!
    byw, what cashman said is so retarded

  55. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “Ahmad can’t have a conversation about Alex’s medical results without Alex in the room.”

    That’s not true. Per the CBA, every player signs a waiver every spring that gives team designated personnel access to medical information from team designated providers.
    ———————–

    That just means that the team gets to have someone copied on the results. Doesn’t mean the doctor can talk about the patient without the patient in the room or on the phone or copied by email – whathaveyou.

  56. randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    jobatipshiscap-

    don’t use that word. it’s incredibly insensitive and wrong.

  57. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Incidentally – as much fun as I’m having at the expense of Alex’s lawyer getting schooled this morning. I didn’t really expect him to sit there and sign off on waiving the confidentiality clause on national television. Those of you who know lawyers know they don’t even sign birthday cards without spending an hour reading them.

    However the problem Alex now faces is:

    When he gets to the ballpark tomorrow the first question will be, “Your lawyer said that if it weren’t for the confidentiality clause, he would ‘love’ to go more in depth about the evidence against you. Over 24 hours ago MLB presented him, and you, with the option of waiving the confidentiality clause in the JDA so that you could feel free to tell your story. Why haven’t you accepted that offer?”

  58. tbone1570 August 19th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    Tar August 19th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    I would like to commend Shame for continually trying to steer the conversation back to where it should be.. The Yankees and an actual pennant race!

    ************************************

    Bravo, Shame! And everyone else who doesn’t beat the A-Rod/steroids horse to death!

  59. randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    chip-

    and all that you just said is relevant to the yankees making up 7.5 games with the red sox in what way?

    do you have any excitement that the yankees are back in a pennant race?

  60. Shame Spencer August 19th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “Ahmad can’t have a conversation about Alex’s medical results without Alex in the room.”

    That’s not true. Per the CBA, every player signs a waiver every spring that gives team designated personnel access to medical information from team designated providers.

    ——————

    Pat is basically all over everything all the time.

    Kudos pat. Seriously, you’re one of our best (and I hope you can find a way to take that as a compliment!).

  61. pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    That just means that the team gets to have someone copied on the results. Doesn’t mean the doctor can talk about the patient without the patient in the room or on the phone or copied by email – whathaveyou.

    Attachment 18 of the CBA allows team doctors to give medical information to specifically designated team personnel without the players permission or without them being present as long as it is for a work related medical issue.

  62. mnmboys August 19th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    No game today because of collective bargaining agreement. They need “x” amount of days off after playing “x” amount of games. I forget what those numbers are but I guess playing 20 games in a row since the all star break until the next day off 8/29 effects those # of off days in the agreement.

  63. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    The Yankees are just 6 games back in the Loss column for the WC & Pennant. (Both!) There are a ton of games still to play amongst them.

  64. pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    alysonfooter
    I keep hearing about ARod’s camp. It sounds fun. I wonder if there’s horseback riding, arts and crafts and S’mores?

    :wink:

  65. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Rodriguez August 19th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Actually they did. The Yanks couldn’t hit anyone or even come close inside. The RSux went on to hit 3 more Yankee hitters w/o reprisal. Totally one-sided & wrong!

  66. pat August 19th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Shame

    Thank you. I have a few good resources about things relating to the business of baseball.

  67. PRDENTIST August 19th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    There were never any questions or thoughts about getting rid of Alex until his name appeared in the Miami story. There were never any mention last year until the playoffs about Alex, except questions about why he was sucking. If he was healthy or not. If A-Rod was hurting that bad he could have said something to the press. He doesn’t have any problems speaking straight to the press and bypassing the Yankees.

  68. mnmboys August 19th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    This Blue Jays series actually scares me a bit…… Hughes and Warren both have to pitch. I cant believe we do not have any better options down below. I really thought a few weeks ago Pineda and Phelps would give us a boost down the stretch. Anyone following the minors think we have any better options on the horizon? I guess Nuno is done. J-Ram? Anyone?

  69. pat August 19th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    The agreement MLB gave Tacopina this morning would allow MLB to request the Galea files be unsealed but no guarantee the Federal government would comply for a civil case.

    If they were inclined to unseal, the testimony of all players, not just Alex could become public so the MLBPA on behalf of the other players who testified might prefer that not to happen.

  70. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    randy l. August 19th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    chip-

    and all that you just said is relevant to the yankees making up 7.5 games with the red sox in what way?

    do you have any excitement that the yankees are back in a pennant race?
    ———————-

    Sure I do. And as I said before, Alex makes the team better. That said, I’m not going to ignore the fact that the guy’s a scumbag and I wish he wasn’t on the team.

  71. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    pat August 19th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    The agreement MLB gave Tacopina this morning would allow MLB to request the Galea files be unsealed but no guarantee the Federal government would comply for a civil case.

    If they were inclined to unseal, the testimony of all players, not just Alex could become public so the MLBPA on behalf of the other players who testified might prefer that not to happen.
    ——————–

    My guess would be that rather than get MLBPA involved the letter was specific to the fact that they were only talking about Alex’s records.

  72. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Rodriguez August 19th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    You are correct & I was not disagreeing really! I just stated the obvious in that they got away with it.

  73. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    “If they were inclined to unseal, the testimony of all players, not just Alex could become public so the MLBPA on behalf of the other players who testified might prefer that not to happen.”

    They could have the sections that weren’t relevant to Arod redacted, and all parties would agree to that if they really wanted to make it happn.

  74. Hankflorida August 19th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Giradi discussed the danger of throwing at someone which brought back to me the story of the notorious head hunter, Carl Mays, who pitched for the Yankees. Mays got his reputation because of his confrontations with Ty Cobb, the A-Rod of his era, and being left handed, Cobb was able to get hit in other places and not his head as Mays was a submarine right handed pitcher with a rising fastball that was more difficult for a right handed hitter to dodge. Eventually Mays reputation proved to be disaster as he hit Ray Chapman, the Cleveland shortstop, in the head and killed him. I bring up this story because Cobb was so hated in his day that he was easy pickings for a bean ball pitcher like Mays.

  75. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    FWIW – if the Yankees needed Dempster to hit Alex to get them fired up to beat the Red Sox then that’s a much bigger problem for the Yankees.

  76. PRDENTIST August 19th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    “I know the evidence against Alex Rodriguez, and I will tell you this: It will never stand up in a court of law or in an arbitration-panel courtroom. Never,” Tacopina told host Matt Lauer.

    Well, it will not be in a court of law, it will be the MLB arbitration not a courtroom, which will decide this or are they thinking on suing after they lose the arbitration?

  77. GregD August 19th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    should I take Aaron Hernandez or Mark Sanchez for my fantasy team???

  78. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Ray and Rodriguez – several days ago I linked to an article dealing with a steroids investigation at fenway conducted by MLB, which proved to be totally incomplete, hastily put together, and didn’t even include Ortiz’s assistant, who was known to use steroids. The participants said the interview didn’t even last 15 minutes and it was clear to them that MLB just wanted the whole thing to go away.

    Some of us alluded to special treatment of the Sux by MLB because of the Selig-Henry connection. Of course I was called crazy and worse for suggesting that the Sux were tipped off as to when drug testing was to occur, this despite the information put out by Merloni that all of the players were schooled by a doctor on how to inject steroids – something that was pulled back almost as fast as Merloni said it.

    Ray, you of course were able to draw on your historical knowledge about the Selig-Henry connection to see the possibilities.

    It seems that a lot of posters here didn’t pay much attention to what was happening in baseball in the past or are unable/unwilling to connect dots because the consternation behind the UUU trade was highly public, and some of us actually expressed outrage at the time. Same thing with the behind-the-scenes workings of the disappearance of the Expos. Funny that the same players were involved in all of those things. Yet there’s no possibility whatsoever that the Sux are given any kind of preferential treatment by MLB.

    SMH

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    “FWIW – if the Yankees needed Dempster to hit Alex to get them fired up to beat the Red Sox then that’s a much bigger problem for the Yankees.”

    :)

    This

  80. RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    So true! That said, the likelyhood of ARod being HBP probably focused ARod even more for that game or at least the next AB. This kind of thing is a short term thingy! Also can prove to be a negative at times too.

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Tacopina is not going to go away. It’s his modus operandi. He does it with all of his cases. He likes to plant things in the minds of potential jurors (or arbitrators) with the thought that if he throws enough against the wall, something will stick. It’s a common defense trick.

    For all intents and purposes, Tacopina is white noise but he will be as disruptive as the day is long in the hopes that he will have worn down his opponent enough by the time the actual hearing comes along that they will cave.

  82. pat August 19th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    “My guess would be that rather than get MLBPA involved the letter was specific to the fact that they were only talking about Alex’s records.”

    MLBPA might still take issue citing precedent.

    Hindsight being 20/20, they should have announced the suspensions accepted so they could have served this year and delayed announcing Alex’s result until after the appeal.

    You just know both sides should just buy commercial time for the World Series because the one ups on that stage could be epic.

  83. Chip August 19th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    RayVT August 19th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Chip August 19th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    So true! That said, the likelyhood of ARod being HBP probably focused ARod even more for that game or at least the next AB. This kind of thing is a short term thingy! Also can prove to be a negative at times too.
    ———————

    The funny thing is when I read people saying stuff like this – that he’ll be more focused. That he’ll be trying to shove it down the throats of other people, stuff like that; I think to myself “so the guy who is mocked for his inability to handle pressure is going to thrive under it now?”

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