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Pregame notes: “That pitch woke up a monster”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 22, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alex Rodriguez

It’s not so much that David Ortiz is suddenly on the Yankees side. It’s more that he realizes what Ryan Dempster might have done by sending that purpose pitch into Alex Rodriguez’s ribs.

“I didn’t like it. I don’t think it was the right thing to do,” Ortiz told USA Today. “But we don’t all think alike, and the guy who did it, Dempster, is a great guy. It’s not that I didn’t think it was right because Alex and I are friends, because once you cross the white lines, everyone’s on their own.

But we’ve got Tampa right on our heels, and that pitch woke up a monster in the Yankees’ team at that moment. You saw how the game ended up. CC (Sabathia) was throwing 91 (mph) and started throwing 96. Alex later hit one way out there. You’re talking about a good team that you can’t wake up. But we learn from our mistakes.”

Before even seeing the USA Today story, I was having a conversation about that very topic with a player in the Yankees clubhouse this morning. The Yankees were legitimately fired up on Sunday, and this player said it felt like the Red Sox rivalry ignited in that moment. There was a new level of determination against Boston, and that’s carried into this series against Toronto.

Jayson Nix• In choosing to replace Jayson Nix with Preston Claiborne, the Yankees prioritized pitching depth over infield depth. “When you look at it, you can go with a short bench or do you go with short pitching?” Joe Girardi said. “I really don’t want to bring a position player in to pitch, so I chose to go short bench. If we have to adjust, we’ll adjust. We’ve done it before. It’s kind of what we’re going through right now.”

• Because he’s replacing an injured player, Claiborne was allowed to return without being in Triple-A for a full 10 days. David Huff, who won’t be available for several days after pitching five innings, is out of options. The Yankees would have needed to pass him through waivers — again — to take him off the roster.

• As for a backup shortstop: “Vernon lobbied yesterday and I said, I don’t think so Vernon,” Girardi said. “I have some ideas. You start thinking, how many people do you want to move around for one position? I have some ideas. Hopefully it doesn’t happen, but we’ll see.”

• Could Alex Rodriguez play shortstop in a pinch? “I said I have some ideas,” Girardi said, vaguely. “I have a left fielder that’s played second base, too.”

• Speaking of shortstops, Derek Jeter is scheduled to play five innings of a Triple-A rehab game tonight. It’s not ideal that the Yankees next six big league games are on turf, but that’s a problem for another day. “I think the concern is making sure he’s healthy more than anything with the turf,” Girardi said. “If you had to give him a day off on the turf, you give him a day off.”

• Also it’s worth noting that the Yankees still haven’t said when they expect to activate Jeter except that he’s likely to play at least two games in Triple-A. Tonight’s game starts at 7:05 p.m.

• Pretty much goes without saying, but Nix is probably out for the year. “We haven’t got a timetable, but my guess would be yeah,” Girardi said.

• Speaking of which, Kevin Youkilis is here today. He said he’s doing a lot of “trunk stabilization” work, but “nothing sexy or exciting.” He’s still hoping to play in September, but he hasn’t hit and doesn’t seem particularly close to hitting.

• Brett Gardner is fine. “Just a day (off),” Girardi said. “We looked at some matchups, we looked at some things, and chose to put Grandy in center and Ich in right.”

• Girardi on Alex Rodriguez’s decision to stop all the off-the-field talk: “I think our team has handled it well with what’s been going on. It’s probably easier on Alex and easier just to focus on the game than having to focus on all the other stuff. I commend him for it. Just try to put this on the side burner for now and focus on the task at hand. I think it’s a good thing.”

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57 Responses to “Pregame notes: “That pitch woke up a monster””

  1. Tar August 22nd, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Recalling Claiborne, was just fixing a mistake they made by sending him down in the first place.

    Hurry back Jeet!!

  2. blake August 22nd, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 9m
    Sources: DeJesus claimed on revocable waivers by unspecified team. If #Nationals want out of his remaining $2.5M, this is their chance.

    Bret may have claimed him for himself :)

  3. Tar August 22nd, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Reading between the lines it looks like Cano moves to short and maybe Soriano goes to 2b. I would also be reluctant to move Alex over there at this point in time.

  4. DONNYBROOK August 22nd, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    My guess is when Youk talks about “trunk stabilization”, he is referring to moving his gear back to his residence. The guy is toast.

  5. Tar August 22nd, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    “Bret may have claimed him for himself”

    Not much Bret since Alex came back…..just another added benefit. :D

  6. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    PeterBotte
    Metallica to play The Apollo on 9/21, which puts them in NY one day before Yanks honor Mariano. Hmmm. #ExitSandman

  7. astrocityfan August 22nd, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    I hate going with a dhort bench. Just release Joba already and bring somebody up. It does make a little more sense if they cant send huff down. Dont know much about him but he looked good last night.

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    champ, YF,

    Feliz hasn’t played since June 20, but was .359/.390/.513/.903 in previous 10 GP. Sucks that he is always hurt. They list him as a 3B now, too.

  9. G. Love August 22nd, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Thank you Ryan Dempster!

  10. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Not much Bret since Alex came back…..just another added benefit. :D
    ////

    And people say Alex isn’t a team player smh

  11. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    oops forgot about double links not get through so I’ll split them.

    injuryexpert
    Wow. Someone check this guys’ hat size.
    Rookie: http://promoimg.beckett.com/ne…..eterRC.jpg …

  12. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Today: http://sitracking.files.wordpr…..etty-t.jpg …

    That’s a joke before anyone starts overreacting but it is cautionary tale that you can find what you want to see in any player even if it’s not true. Derek’s injuries this year would have been attributed to PED use by lots of people if it was almost anyone except Derek who was suffering through them.

  13. G. Love August 22nd, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    blake,

    You almost made me spit coffee on my iMac monitor with the Bret/Dejesus comment, lol.

  14. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    champ, YF,

    Feliz hasn’t played since June 20, but was .359/.390/.513/.903 in previous 10 GP. Sucks that he is always hurt. They list him as a 3B now, too.
    ______
    Too bad he has been hurt so much. I could see him as a viable 3B possibility at some point, and think that may be why they moved him off 2B with Cano blocking that slot.

  15. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    AndrewMarchand
    Yanks have 20 games against Sox, Rays & O’s. The other 16 are against last place teams.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    yankeefem – that’s what I thought as well, certainly hope they lock Robi up and that was part of their reasoning. Feliz is a long way from the Bronx, but clearly we’re not the only ones who see a legit 5-tool infielder in him. He’s got special special ability, and how many can we say that of? He just has to find that sixth tool: health! Also, not be so reluctant to use his speed, according to what I have read.

  17. Shame Spencer August 22nd, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    The words ‘Youk’ and ‘sexy’ don’t belong in the same sentence unless followed up with ‘a half gallon of vodka.’

  18. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    TheOnion
    New Evidence Confirms A-Rod Invented Steroids http://onion.com/16R8wab

  19. 56Bomber August 22nd, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Absolute downpour in Central NJ right now….seems to be heading towards the Bronx.

  20. Hankflorida August 22nd, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue August 22nd, 2013 at 1:06 am
    Johnny Damon – 2009

    I was searching for a Yankee championship team that had two table setters in the outfield like Gardener and Suzuki. Yes, Damon could be considered a table setter but that year, he hit 24 home runs while playing with Melky. Left hand hitters playing in the Stadium do enhance their long ball potential, and when both Damon and Maris played for Kansas City, their home run totals were much less. This fact is why I think that Hal and Granderson can find common ground in spite of the cap. Does anyone think that next year Suzuki and Gardener should play together?

  21. G. Love August 22nd, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Pruf,

    They’re gonna lock Cano up. Star power has reignited this team. The Yankees have learned a valuable lesson this season and I hope it’s not too late.

    Besides, the mere thought of watching Cano and Sori together next year in the lineup makes me smile.

    I don’t care what people say about Sori. I love the guy. He plays with fire and joy and he’s become one heck of a OF since we last saw him.

  22. Chip August 22nd, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    G Love

    I’m not sure Cano counts as star power.

    Remember, he’s been around all season and hasn’t drawn anyone to see him. There’s a difference between being a great player (which Cano is) and being a guy the casual fan will come out and see (which Cano is not)

  23. Shame Spencer August 22nd, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal

    Source confirms that #Mets are finalizing agreement with Dice-K and will bring him straight to the majors. First reported by @JonHeymanCBS.

  24. Shame Spencer August 22nd, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    I don’t care what people say about Sori. I love the guy. He plays with fire and joy and he’s become one heck of a OF since we last saw him.

    ————–

    I love Sori too, I was sad to see him go and I’m thrilled he’s back.. but I’d caution against those that might assume his production over the final two months of the season will be indicative of what to expect next year. He’s still a streaky hitter and much like Ichiro we need to be realistic when we consider his production for 2014. I still like his bat better than Well’s though, so I’m happy to have him as the 4th OFer. Means we still need to add at least one for next year.

  25. G. Love August 22nd, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    Chip,

    While I agree with you on that, I also think Cano brings depth to the star power. He’s a legit All Star who is still putting up huge numbers for his position.

    We’re not going to have the biggest star in the game, but the Yankees having an ensemble of top players keeps the product strong.

    Where they went wrong were thinking past their prime names meant the same thing as All Star players.

  26. blake August 22nd, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    “You almost made me spit coffee on my iMac monitor with the Bret/Dejesus comment, lol.”

    I try…..I don’t mind Bret to be honest…..I don’t agree with him often but he usually does talk baseball and initiates baseball conversations.

  27. blake August 22nd, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    you can tell Soriano is a different guy in NY…..he likes the stage

  28. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    G. Love August 22nd, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Pruf,

    They’re gonna lock Cano up. Star power has reignited this team. The Yankees have learned a valuable lesson this season and I hope it’s not too late.
    ///

    G Love,

    I can’t imagine the Yankees thinking they can watch Alex sit out maybe an entire season (especially this healthy, revived version), see Rivera retire, and also lose Cano in one fell swoop. I think you’re right, and I do think the decision to move a kid like Feliz off 2B – a position he has a great raw aptitude for – is part of the larger understanding that Cano will be playing 2B for at least a few more years. I hope it’s not too late, too. I just have a gut feeling it isn’t, and that we’re supposed to do something special. Time will tell .

    Besides, the mere thought of watching Cano and Sori together next year in the lineup makes me smile.

    I have really enjoyed watching them interact in the dugout. It feels like the time-space continuum is on holiday break and somehow they’re able to co-exist in the same eternal moment.

    I don’t care what people say about Sori. I love the guy. He plays with fire and joy and he’s become one heck of a OF since we last saw him.

    He is a joy. Love his cartoon voice, his goofy smile, his energy. I’m sure you heard that story about how a Cubs coach taught him to read catchers when setting up in the outfield.
    Supposedly this has improved his defense and once I heard it, it was obvious. Why wasn’t it obvious to his managers and coaches during his first twelve years in the majors?

  29. UpState August 22nd, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    The Mets & Daisuke Matsuzaka…..sounds like a pretty decent ‘gamble’ .

    (esp. in NL)

  30. bruceb August 22nd, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Kevin Youkilis is here today. He said he’s doing a lot of “trunk stabilization” work.

    Wish he’d just pack his trunk rather than try to stabilize it.

  31. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal
    Source: #Rays sign Delmon Young. Released by #Phillies after batting .261 with a .699 OPS in 291 plate appearances. 8 HRs, 69 Ks, 14 BB.

  32. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    The tarp is on the field.

    Cano draws more fans than people think. At end of the 2012 season, his was a top 10 selling jersey in mlb, for instance. The casual Yankee fan would certainly consider it a lack of commitment to the team if Hal and co. didn’t re-sign Cano. Unless they got a marquis/in his prime player to replace Cano, not re-signing him doesn’t really fly and unlike we on this blog, the non-advanced stat crowd really doesn’t care about value or worry about a player potentially being past his prime at the end of his contract. I would think in the Yankees mind they feel they have to re-sign Cano.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Cano isn’t “star power” only because the lowest common denominator Yankee fan has no idea what we have in our 2B.

    The idea that Cano was supposed to “put the team on his back” with no protection in the lineup just showed a failure of understanding that baseball isn’t hockey or basketball. We’re not talking about a diminished team, we were talking about a utterly moribund offense.

    Also, Cano is not a strictly pull power guy. If he were, more “casual” fans would consider him “star power.” It’s utterly telling how, whenever I come across baseball fans of other teams – educated ones – they wax poetics(sic) about Cano to me: about his defense, about his swing. It’s that easily led, TALK RADIO influenced Yankee fan that has no clue how good the guy is.

  34. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    ESPNChiCubs
    David DeJesus was claimed by Tampa Bay, according to a source.

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    *an utterly moribund offense

  36. ken tats August 22nd, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Cano definitely isn’t a superstar. A star, yes.

  37. Shame Spencer August 22nd, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    ESPNChiCubs
    David DeJesus was claimed by Tampa Bay, according to a source.

    ———————–

    “Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!’ – Bret.

  38. UnKnown August 22nd, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    That stinks Delmon always seems to hit well against us.

  39. blake August 22nd, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    G. Love says:
    August 22, 2013 at 12:08 pm
    Thank you Ryan Dempster!

    What a boob that guy looks like in all this…….

  40. Bo knows August 22nd, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    Romine when I first saw had a kind of wooden swing, someone called it robotic. Now it’s much more fluid, ie coordinated. Behind the plate – again he looks leaps and bounds better than on his arrival. I would suggest that he more than gathered splinters.

    There was a lot of work going on behind the scenes. He missed most of a year development just last year, plus development is not linear. There is also the ‘something clicked factor’.

    This present Romine looks like a keeper.

  41. GregD August 22nd, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    if we are going to sign a free agent this winter….it needs to be Cano….there is nobody close to what he can do and he won’t cost us a draft choice……….

  42. pat August 22nd, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal
    Delmon Young will report to #Rays’ Double A Montgomery affiliate as opposed to Triple A Durham. His preference.

  43. ken tats August 22nd, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    our draft choices are useless anyway. Rather have McCann if it was a choice between Cano and McCann, younger, great hitting catchers are harder to come by, probably cheaper.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Gumbs is another toolsy 2B prospect who can’t seem to stay healthy. Hitting .213 in Charleston last I looked. These kids are never going to advance, spending half of their development time on the DL.

  45. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Ironically, it is almost as though Cano is so good that people don’t even notice him. And he is batting .283/.358/.417 vs. LHP and his LH SLG is almost .100 points higher than 2012.

    And agree that the expectation that Cano should unequivocally rake in the middle of such a benign offense when he wasn’t getting much to hit isn’t really fair.

    A telling stat which I suspected and just looked up is that Cano was walking 15.8% in June and 14.5 in July, but since the Yanks have added some big bats, Cano’s average and SLG are way up. Think pitchers aren’t forced to pitch to Cano now. Without a doubt.

  46. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Walk % in August for Cano, 10.8%. Still very respectable but he is clearly get more pitches to hit. Also props to Cano for taking the walks in June and July when he wasn’t getting as many pitches to hit.

  47. GregD August 22nd, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    McCann’s numbers have been down the last three years…he’s a .270 hitter who is never driven in 100 runs and the last four years…..he has averaged around 70……..he would probably fare better in Yankee Stadium but he still isn’t nearly as good as Cano…..having said that….I would take them both :)

  48. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Are we praising Ortiz for being honest? The same guy that said there shouldn’t be PEDS in the game? Why are we giving a guy props who clearly never got back to us on the milkshakes? Please.

  49. UnKnown August 22nd, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    So maybe hitting Alex really did have something to do with a surge of late. I think people tried to easily dismiss it because it involved Alex, but I think it clearly caused this team to fight even harder than they were previously.

    AL unites and ignites!

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Left-handed 2B with a career .859 OPS (.504 SLG) are not easy to come by.

  51. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Tarp is still on the field; are they still saying first pitch at 1:05?

  52. blake August 22nd, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    “McCann’s numbers have been down the last three years…he’s a .270 hitter who is never driven in 100 runs and the last four years…..he has averaged around 70……..he would probably fare better in Yankee Stadium but he still isn’t nearly as good as Cano…..having said that….I would take them both ”

    MCcann + Choo > Cano though

    How many times did posada drive in 100 runs? He was kinda good

  53. Shame Spencer August 22nd, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    :arrow:

  54. yankeefeminista August 22nd, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    rain delay … :(

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock August 22nd, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Good post, YF.

    The idea that middle infielders like Cano are “easy to come by” is shaky thinking.

  56. champ809 August 22nd, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    I think they moved Feliz off 2B temporarily to make room for Gumbs and later Refsnyder who are more limited as to where they can play.

  57. RayVT August 22nd, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Ortiz is just saying this because he thinks the Yanks will pop him the next game.


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