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Postgame notes: “Everyone probably wondered what’s going on”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 23, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Hiroki Kuroda, Jose Lobaton

Brett Gardner managed to explain this one in 97 words.

“I guess everyone probably wondered what’s going on when you Kuroda giving up a homer, and another one, and another one, and then another one, and then maybe even another one,” he said. “I’m not sure how many it was, but he’s been so good all year. He’s not perfect, you know? You get into a hole like that, its tough to get back out of it, especially against someone who’s throwing the ball as well as Archer. Hopefully, CC can give us a good one tomorrow and we can even out the series and get back on track.”

That’s the whole story right there. Hiroki Kuroda gave up a season-high four home runs, Chris Archer was tremendous again, and the Yankees really need to recapture momentum quickly if they want to keep this run going. It was the kind of game that might be easily dismissed as a bad night for one starter and a good night for the other, but nothing is easily dismissed right now. Not for a team trying to fight its way back in the hunt.

“It was really strange,” Joe Girardi said. “He just didn’t have his stuff tonight. He kept trying to find it and find it, but I didn’t think his slider was extremely sharp, and I didn’t think he had the great command of his fastball tonight. It’s one of those nights he just didn’t have his stuff.”

One thing that Gardner’s comment makes clear is just how much the Yankees have come to depend on Kuroda this season. He’s been close to automatic, so much so that a night like tonight really did seem stunning. We’ve seen him get hit, but not quite like this.

Through the first four months of the season, Kuroda never allowed as many as nine hits in a start. He’s now done it three times in his past four starts. Anything to be concerned about?

“I don’t really feel fatigue,” Kuroda said. “I’ve being throwing 200 innings the last couple years, and there are times when you have good stuff and not good stuff, so I don’t really think about fatigue right now. … Obviously the team was on a roll, and the fact that I couldn’t contribute today to the team was, yes, disappointing.”

Derek Jeter• Derek Jeter told reporters in Scranton that he knew all along this was going to be a three-game rehab assignment. He was never expecting to join the Yankees in Tampa. “I’m not surprised by too many things,” he said.

• Jeter said he’ll play shortstop again tomorrow. That’ll be three games in a row in the field. He didn’t say how many innings he’ll play, but he played seven tonight after five last night. He was 0-for-3 with a walk, a strikeout and a run scored. “I’m not concerned about running,” he said. “Not at all. Everything felt good. … For me, it’s just playing in games. For them it’s probably check to make sure I’m alright. But I get it.”

• Speaking of injured Yankees, Brett Gardner was nearly added to the list. That hit by pitch in the third inning got him on the back of the right hand in basically the exact same spot where Jayson Nix was hit earlier this week. Nix is lost for the year. Gardner stayed in the game to have two more hits. “Just got lucky,” he said. “It didn’t square me up. … I’m not concerned about it any more.”

• As a precaution, Gardner said he’ll likely get an X-ray tomorrow. His hand was slightly swollen, but not much. I really couldn’t tell looking at it, but Gardner said it was a little bigger.

• Chris Stewart also had his right heel wrapped. He took a foul ball there but said he’s fine. Didn’t see Lyle Overbay in the clubhouse after the game. With the Yankees facing a lefty tomorrow, he probably wasn’t going to play anyway, so he should get two days to try to get over this flu-like situation.

• One more mild injury update, Eduardo Nunez had a few plays when he had to run at a full spring down the first-base line and he came through the game just fine. His hamstring seems to be doing better. “You hope he feels good tomorrow,” Girardi said. “You worry sometimes about the day after, but today’s the best we’ve seen him run.”

Brett Gardner• Is Girardi worried about the possibility of fatigue for Kuroda? “I think it’s way too early to think about that,” Girardi said. “Tonight was a night he just didn’t have his stuff.”

• Stewart seemed to have a different evaluation: “He didn’t throw too bad,” Stewart said. “They were just laying off some really good pitches. When he threw it in the zone, they didn’t miss them. They hit him pretty hard. I made some bad calls. It’s just tough to game plan when they’re not really chasing anything. That’s kind of his game. He works in and out of the zone. He starts in the zone and gets chases out of the zone. They didn’t chase today. They made him throw strikes and hit him hard.”

• Archer is 3-0 against the Yankees this season. He’s the first rookie with three wins against the Yankees in a season since Kevin Brown in 1989. “I thought we swung the bats a little bit better against him today,” Girardi said. “You can look at the ball Stewie hit. The one inning we hit three balls hard and didn’t get a hit. He’s got good stuff, there’s no doubt about it; but I thought we had better at-bats against him today.”

• Stewart really did seem to have a sure double that David DeJesus robbed with a great running catch in the eighth. “I put my head down and was thinking automatic double, hear the crowd go crazy and apparently the ball’s in his glove,” Stewart said. “That’s just kind of the way things went tonight.”

• Final word goes to Gardner: “Well, you want to win the first game. When you lose the first game of a three-game series it’s tough to win the next two. Especially on the road against a team like the Rays but they been playing good ball all year and hopefully the way we been playing recently, we can get a good one tomorrow.”

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69 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Everyone probably wondered what’s going on””

  1. UnKnown August 23rd, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    Get the next two. At the very least one of the next two.

    Captain comes into play on Monday and we close this season out very strong.

  2. Pat M. August 23rd, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    Dodgers are 45-10 since mid June. Wish the Yanks had a lefthand power hitter as they never did replace Hafner, thus the loss of Texeria is notable

  3. blake August 24th, 2013 at 12:01 am

    “Dodgers are 45-10 since mid June. Wish the Yanks had a lefthand power hitter as they never did replace Hafner, thus the loss of Texeria is notable”

    Lyle Overbay vs RHP in 2013 : .274 .327 .466 .792 (298 PA’s) Mark Teixera vs RHP in 2012 :.239 .331 .438 .770 (326 PA’s).

    They miss Tex vs LHP…..but Overbay has been basically just as good as him vs RHP.

  4. Pat M. August 24th, 2013 at 12:10 am

    blake. you really rather have Lyle Overbay hitting and playing over Mark Texeria ???? Keep in mind Texeria was never right last season coming out of camp. I think his loss is huge and is what will keep them from playing come October

  5. Pat M. August 24th, 2013 at 12:21 am

    Dodgers 29-5 since the break as the beat The BoSox in a throwback game that lasted 2:07. Donnie Mattingly has himself one hellava ballclub

  6. blake August 24th, 2013 at 12:21 am

    “blake. you really rather have Lyle Overbay hitting and playing over Mark Texeria ???? ”

    No…..i just don’t think there is a huge difference between then in about 2/3 of the games at this point in Tex’s career….he a better player than Overnay because he hits Lefties a lot better and he has more overall power…..but when you consider the cost difference between the two….Tex certainly isn’t 23 million better IMO

  7. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 12:22 am

    Lyle had one strong season in Toronto, after that, not.

  8. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    blake, I’m 23 million better; Dave Stieb concurs :)

  9. blake August 24th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    Pat M. says:
    August 24, 2013 at 12:21 am
    Dodgers 29-5 since the break as the beat The BoSox in a throwback game that lasted 2:07. Donnie Mattingly has himself one hellava ballclub

    It’s a team that could be scary in a playoff series…..Kershaw and Grieke and a dangerous offense

  10. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    At this point, I’m willing to settle for 1983′s, Willie Upshaw!

  11. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 12:33 am

    The Dodgers, sure to go far, with Garvey and Cey, Reggie Smith. Don’t forget, Hooten, Tommy John, Yeager, Russell and that second base guy I can’t remember? Jim Beattie sure did them in :D

  12. theREALkevin August 24th, 2013 at 12:41 am

    Dodgers have taught me a little bit, I probably would would have already fired mattingly before they turned it around. They always had a ton of talent even when they were playing poorly, and now they have put it together in a big way.

  13. Wang IS Taiwan August 24th, 2013 at 12:57 am

    Really happy for Mattingly. I wanted him as the Yanks’ manager.

  14. Pat M. August 24th, 2013 at 1:34 am

    No Beckett, no Billingsley and no Kemp. and yet they have separated themselves from the field. Remember many here slamming the dumb Dodgers for the trade. Yeah right !!!!

  15. blake August 24th, 2013 at 4:16 am

    The Dodgers ownership deserves a good team…..they spent money and took risks and pushed to get better

  16. mnmboys August 24th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    Get the Captain back and bring in Morneau and lets sprint to the playoffs.

  17. austinmac August 24th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    I find myself pulling for the Dodgers. Imagine an ownership group that puts winning ahead of budget. I noted they were leading baseball in attendance. Good for them. Bring in good players, create an exciting team and make a ton of money. Seems like a plan I have heard before.

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock August 24th, 2013 at 7:57 am

    Well I sure was pulling for them last night! They are fun to watch, aesthetically pleasing and all that but I can’t stand lasorda and to me he’s the Dodgers,

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock August 24th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    Besides the aggravation one feels watching Puig

  20. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:08 am

    Good morning.

    CC needs to find a way to be CC tonight, and the O needs to put up some runs in support.

    Wish El Capitan were here for this series.

  21. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Kershaw has a Koufax-like ERA this season.

    Wowza !


  22. J. Alfred Prufrock August 24th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    MTU – we must have this one. And if we
    Manage that then we must have the next one and ….

    We’re 7 out I. The loss
    Column… Yeah we could sure use Jeter, especially against Price

  23. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:15 am


    I wish I could say I felt confident with CC on the hill.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock August 24th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Time for tea and morning rituals such as
    They are. MTU I will observe that pic of your pups from a cople years ago – the one where it
    LOoks as
    Though they are sitting on the roof :)

  25. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    See ya’ JAP.

    Nice sentiment.

    Enjoy your AM.

    Catch U later.


  26. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    I wanted to see how the Yankees would do against quality pitching like the Rays.

    Thought that would tell me exactly how strong our O really is and whether or not we can compete with the best.

    2 more chances to convince me this is for real. So far I’m underwhelmed.


  27. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    So where is everyone ?

    Cryin’ in your coffee ?

    Hung over ?

  28. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    Good morning MTU, people just need a rest sometimes; I’d stick around, but I’ve got to do a crappy work move to perform – at least I get exercise

  29. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    See MTU, my grammar sucks this morning…

  30. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    See ya’ Mills.

    I’d help you out but the plane fare is prohibitive.

    Now if you like to send your jet ?


  31. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:37 am


    You should see my French grammar.


  32. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    MTU, the succulents haven’t grown much outside this year, mind you, one giant 8 foot euphorbia is too big to take out of the bedroom anyway.

  33. pkyankfan69 August 24th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Cryin’ in your coffee ?

    Hung over ?
    Hung over? a lil

    Having coffee but no crying, we are looking at 80 and sunny with no humidity all weekend!

  34. randy l. August 24th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    ‘I find myself pulling for the Dodgers. Imagine an ownership group that puts winning ahead of budget. I noted they were leading baseball in attendance. Good for them. Bring in good players, create an exciting team and make a ton of money. Seems like a plan I have heard before.”

    austin mac-

    it’s an interesting phenomenon how we decide to “pull” or root for someone or something. or decide to root against.

    it’s not a decision really. it just kind of happens. i was rooting against hal’s plan so i started rooting against yankee wins because they would delay the rebuilding. then alex did his thing with hal and now it’s not hals team so i root again.
    but now trisha roots against alex and may even root against yankee wins if alex helps. you know hal roots against alex and yankee wins caused by alex.

    we all root for mtu’s pup though :)
    some rooting is simple
    other’s not so much

  35. Tar August 24th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Jeter should be back in the line-up today. Kind of ridiculous to be cautious now, and reckless earlier in the year. If he can play in AAA, he should be in the line-up against Price.

  36. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    MTU, one private jet coming up, thanks for the help! :)

  37. tbone1570 August 24th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    So where is everyone ?

    Cryin’ in your coffee ?

    Hung over ?


    Slow morning, but not much to say about last night. Bad pitching and lack of offense sums it up best.

    Move on and win tonight.

  38. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:44 am


    By the way, both the Pup as well as myself greatly appreciate all the rooting.


  39. jmills August 24th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Ok, I’ve procrastinated enough, have to find the stupid work tools, I hope my guys got the truck ready; MTU, best wishes to the little guy.

  40. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    I understand.

    A loss like last night’s is kind of deflating.

    However, we still have 2 more chances to show our bona fide’s.

    It begins with Carsten Charles showing why he’s deserves the appellation “the Big Man”.

  41. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Thank you Mills.

    Much appreciated.

    What sort of jet ?

    Hope it’s something better than just a Lear. That’s too bourgeois.


  42. Doreen August 24th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Good morning.

    First, the Yankees are going after the wrong contract. They should be trying to get out of the contract with My9.

    I knew this would be probably their toughest series. The Trop is not kind to them anymore. But thrive defeated David Price before, so if they can get one game out of this series I’ll be, well, not happy, but not worried. The key is not getting them not getting discouraged here. A positive is they follow this up with Toronto, where they fare better.

    I have been rooting for the Pirates for several years now, so I am happy they’re putting together a great season. I just always recalled what a good franchise they were when I first started following baseball. And then we met a couple from Pittsburgh who we became friend’s with, so Pittsburgh was an adopted team.

    I want the Dodgers to win this year because of Mattingly. Simple as that. I also think it is incredible how they’ve turned things around. They have a strong team, but ths is amazing even given that.

    Could it be fated that the Yankees and Dodgers will meet in the post-season, or could it be fated that the Yankees miss the WS so that One Former Yankee can win it?? And we can root for him to do so??

    Archer is slighter than I remembered him being. Isn’t that odd?

  43. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 8:59 am


    Archer certainly “slighted” us last night.

    I wish he would gain some weight so that wouldn’t happen.

  44. austinmac August 24th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    I have a feeling if we had Archer, we would have seen him too small to start and made him a reliever. Instead of making guys in the low minors relievers, I say teach them another pitch and keep them as a far more valuable starter.

  45. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 9:06 am


    That would be Patterson’s job wouldn’t it ?

    Or maybe Scott Aldred’s.

    When a guy comes out of basic. He needs to be ready to fight with a well-defined toolset.

    Maybe the minors should be the same way.

    You don’t get to fight w/o having mastered certain basic skills.

    Two of which would be that you can throw and command at least 3 pitches, and you’ve logged at least 150 innings successfully at AAA.


  46. MTU August 24th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    new one —–>

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