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Off day notes and links

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 29, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Zoilo Almonte• It was actually a pretty good day for the Yankees. Not only did Eduardo Nunez get good news, but the Rays were shutout at home and the A’s blew a late lead in Detroit. The Yankees managed to pick up a half game on both wild card leaders without playing a game. They trail by five games heading into this crucial home stand. Right now the Indians and Red Sox are also losing (of course, it’s the Orioles who are beating the Sox).

• A few quick injury updates from the Post: Travis Hafner and Zoilo Almonte are doing tee and toss … Michael Pineda has been throwing on the side but it looks like he won’t pitch in another minor league game this season … David Phelps is expected to begin throwing soon. My guess would be that he doesn’t have enough time to actually do anything for the Yankees the rest of the year.

• Scranton/Wilkes-Barre announced today that Dan Johnson has been released from his contract. Have to assume that means he was told there would be no September call-up, and his contract lets him go looking for one. He could legitimately find an opportunity elsewhere. He’s a left-handed bat who’s been pretty productive in Triple-A. Patience and power. Not a bad pinch hit option.

• Kendrys Morales was claimed off waivers this week, but Jon Heyman points out that the 48-hour window to complete a trade has passed, meaning Morales won’t be moved to whoever won the claim.

• Speaking of waiver claims, the Orioles have claimed Michael Morse from the Mariners. Morse hasn’t hit much this year, but there’s always the chance that he could get hot and give Baltimore a boost at some point this weekend.

• Over at ESPN New York, Andrew Marchand took a look at the upcoming schedule for all of the teams in the race for the two American League wild card spots. Pretty soft last month for the Indians, who are immediately behind the A’s for the second spot.

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68 Responses to “Off day notes and links”

  1. Against All Odds August 29th, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    randy l. August 29th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
    “I agree but Hal doesn’t operate that way.”

    i refuse to come up with ways to fit under 189.

    F 189.

    and that’s not a fighter plane :)

    —————

    That’s the spirit ;)

  2. MTU August 29th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Just play out the string and see what happens.

    Odds may be small but totally impossible.

    No point speculating just watch and see.

    I’m proud of what the Team has been able to accomplish with such adversity, and same goes for Girardi who IMO has done an outstanding job managing it.

    Either way next year promises to be better.

    Nobody can have this much bad luck 2 years in a row.

  3. MTU August 29th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    edit: Oops. Freudian slip. “not totally impossible”.

    sorry.

    :(

  4. MTU August 29th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Nobody should have to take sides here.

    Just treat each other with same level of respect and courtesy you wish to be treated with.

    Disagree all you want. But don’t get personal and disrespectful.

    If you just can’t stand what someone has said use your personal “ignore” feature and skip past.

    It isn’t really all that hard.

    Have a good night and may the good Lord bless and keep each and every one of you.

    :)

  5. MTU August 29th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    And by the way, a little humor goes a long way.

    ;)

  6. blake August 29th, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    Tom,

    My phone died earlier…..however I am smart enough not to bet on Carolina football anyway ;) especially when playin an SEC team.

    I figure since NC is better at pretty much everything else….(basketball, baseball, BBQ etc…..) we should let SC have football

  7. rm August 29th, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    Hal left himself a way out: “But one that hasn’t been well-documented is that I don’t believe you have to have a $200 million payroll to be World Champions. So it is something that’s important to us, but only if we’re sure we’re fielding a championship-caliber team. I mean, I just can’t say that enough. We are going to field a championship-caliber team every single year.” and Cashman is a tremendously good liar (rember the Teixiera signing and the Crawford ruse with the Red Sox). This whole 189 thing could be a clever ruse. The future may not be as bleak as everybody thinks it is. Let see what actually happens this off season.

    And of course this season isn’t over yet. We still have the opportunity to beat the Red Sox 7 more times this year.

  8. Your Name Here August 29th, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    Should have traded Kuroda when he had value.

  9. rm August 29th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Trading Kuroda was never an option. First they are still trying to win and second trying to trade a player who gives a discount to sign with you and has a no trade is not the best way to attract free agents.

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 29th, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    MTU is a walking angel. No question.

    I am having no problem with Kuroda other than to say it’s unfortunate that he’s having his few off games right now. The guy basically carried this team with his pitching. Time to give him the same support.

    Night all.

  11. Duh Innings II August 29th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    If the Yanks don’t make it to the postseason this year this is why:

    1-9 vs. the Mets (0-4), the White Sox (0-3), and the Padres (1-2), all three bad teams.

    Had they went just 5-4 in those games, they would be only one game behind the As tonight. If they went the bare minimum 6-3 they should’ve went (figure 3-1 vs. the Mets or a sweep of one of the other two teams), they would be tied with Oakland for the second wildcard slot tonight despite dropping five of six to Oakland!

    That’s it.

    Oh, and let’s not forget 3-4 vs. the bad Mariners and 1-2 vs. the deflated playing out the string Blue Jays early this week for 5-15 vs. bad teams, 6-20 when you factor in their games vs. Oakland. 11-15 and they’re tied with Oakland.

  12. 4TrainNorth August 29th, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    Max Scherzer is Parker Lewis.

  13. yankinvegas August 29th, 2013 at 11:54 pm

    This year has been a combination of bad evaluations, bad planning and bad luck. The luck will probably reverse next season, but the other two are more things that you can control. Cashman has been GM for 16 seasons. Where is it written that he is the only person for the job?
    I would really like us to try to get Friedman or Beane or Dombrowski. Offer them total control and no interference from Levine who will not be fired because of all the $$ he has made for the Steinbrenner family.
    I they want to go cheaper, I would have no problem with Eppler. Just because you work under someone, that doesn’t mean that you will be a clone of that person.

  14. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 7:37 am

    If you just can’t stand what someone has said use your personal “ignore” feature and skip past.

    It isn’t really all that hard.

    Have a good night and may the good Lord bless and keep each and every one of you.

    ~~~~~~~~

    Good advice, MTU. I just don’t let the ding-dongs rile me up. I just ignore them. After eight years on this blog, I’m pretty used to it by now…

    Isn’t everyone?

  15. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 7:38 am

    Trying to trade a player who gives a discount to sign with you and has a no trade is not the best way to attract free agents.

    ~~~~~~~~

    Ain’t THAT the truth!

  16. Melkmanisinhotlanta August 30th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    If Hafner doesn’t retire after this injury plagued season, then not one owner should offer the thief more than mlb minimum. What a salary scam artist,

  17. Doreen August 30th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    People are misunderstanding, so I will say this. Make no mistake. This is not about being able to ignore opposing viewpoints and it is not about raising the level of discourse.

    This IS about one person who continues to post inappropriate, hurtful and personal things, and who has shown he will continue to do so unless he gets his own way.

    I know no one believes what he posted about my children, but I feel like I am disloyal to my own family if I just ignore him and continue here as if it was no big deal. Acting in a threatening manner towards people is a big deal. If a person has issues there are better places to deal with them than here.

  18. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Wang-

    Good morning.

    “Isn’t everyone?”

    Apparently not since many still feel a need to respond.

    I am trying my best to be a peacemaker because we have already lost far too many good people and I do not want to lose any more.

    I see no reason to choose sides or to be disrespectful of each other.

    It just isn’t necessary IMO.

  19. Doreen August 30th, 2013 at 8:00 am

    And by the way, I have to continue ue to read here, because I am forced to now monitor the posts for offending entries.

  20. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:07 am

    Trisha-

    I am far, far from an Angel. Flawed in many ways. Like we all are.

    All I am trying to do is preserve the Blog by asking people not to snipe at each other.

    That’s really just common sense.

    This shouldn’t be a place for people to work out their personal baggage or to crap on one and other at will.

    It’s been a nice little community and I hope it can stay that way.

    With everyone’s help it will. Why ruin a good thing ?

    There are people who’s conversation I enjoy more than others but I try my very best to treat everyone with respect unless they simply make it impossible to do so.

    I have found almost no one like that.

    Almost anyone will respond to the milk of human kindness I’ve found.

  21. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Doreen-

    I do not blame you one bit for the way you feel.

    It’s perfectly understandable.

  22. austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Sherman has an article this morning expressing what I had earlier said. The Yankees will not spend until they know about AROD’s suspension. By that time, many options will be off the board. Terrific. Another off season waiting for February leftovers.

  23. austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    Doreen,

    FWIW, we’re glad when you are here.

  24. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    I have no problem conversing with Mick, Trisha, Tom, or anyone else who has a positive perspective on the Yankees and their future.

    I feel no need to convert them to another POV.

    Likewise, I am equally comfortable with Randy, JAP, Mac or anyone else who may be more critical of the Yankees.

    I listen and I comment in a respectful way to each.

    When the conversation is over we part in an equally respectful manner.

    It’s not that hard.

    If you can’t agree after discussion agree to disagree without acrimony or hard feelings.

    These aren’t the Crusades. It’s baseball, etc. and it should be a place to learn and have some fun.

    Not a torture chamber.

    :)

  25. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Alright. I’m off my soapbox.

    Carry on.

    Oops ! Err, I’m mean continue in peace.

    ;)

  26. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Doreen,

    Going after your family is inexcusable. You do what you feel you need to, but I love having you around as much as possible.

    Like MTU, I was addressing the sniping more than anything. I don’t read the pyscho’s postings, so I don’t know what he has written, to be honest.

  27. austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:23 am

    MTU,

    Since our opinions have no value in this world, perhaps we should not cling to them. I do come to the board because many on here has very good thoughts on the team. I groaned when we got Soriano remembering him flailing at every breaking ball. Others like it. They were right and me wrong, and I’m glad.

  28. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Mac-

    Hopefully it will be resolved in Nov.

    That should still leave plenty of time.

    Preliminary discussions will be held beforehand.

    The Winter meetings are when some of the important groundwork is laid.

    They generally aren’t held until the 1st week of Dec.

    I’d like the A-rod thing settled before then.

    I hope that is what happens.

  29. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:12 am
    Sherman has an article this morning expressing what I had earlier said. The Yankees will not spend until they know about AROD’s suspension. By that time, many options will be off the board. Terrific. Another off season waiting for February leftovers.

    ~~~~~~~~

    And this is a lot of my problem with Arod. He is hurting the team in a way that could be avoided if he’d just own up to his violations and just serve the time.

  30. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    I know, I know…I’d better get ready to duck as the Arod supporters come out in droves to defend him…

  31. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    Mac-

    The personal and threatening stuff is where the problems lie.

    Differences of opinion are just that.

    If handled maturely they are absolutely no problem.

    I, like you, have had to eat many meals of warmed over crow in my time, and I like to think I am big enough to admit when I am wrong.

    I find myself doing it frequently. And I try to learn.

    Sometimes I think I am the Blog’s built-in reverse barometer.

    Thing is, right or wrong, I have fun and hope that others do too.

    :)

  32. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Someone said this homestand will decide the Yankee’s fate.

    I have to say I can’t disagree.

  33. pat August 30th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    craigcalcaterra
    If the Yankees 2014 plans are wholly contingent on A-Rod, did they not have a 2014 plan in early ’13 when none of this was known?

  34. 86w183 August 30th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    Good morning all —–

    Haven’t been on much cuz I’ve been traveling the last couple of days.

    The idea the Yanks will wait until an A-Rod appeal ruling before making off season moves is not only laughable, it’s IMPOSSIBLE.

    The have to make decisions on QO for Kuroda, Cano, Hughes and Granderson long before A-Rod goes before the hearing officer, so some decisions will be made and some actions will take place.

    The FIRST thing the Yanks have to decide is whether they are going to go full re-build mode OR ignore $ 189 and try to put together a legit contender. I hope to hell they don’t do something in between and try to tweak a roster that’s older than George Allen’s Washington Redskins of the 1970s.

  35. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Good points 86 as usual.

    That’s why I made you GM.

    I think the Yankees are going to have more to spend than most people realize.

    I don’t see the A-Rod thing getting drawn out.

    I’m hoping that will be complete before the Winter meetings.

    In which case it will have little to no impact.

  36. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:12 am
    Sherman has an article this morning expressing what I had earlier said. The Yankees will not spend until they know about AROD’s suspension. By that time, many options will be off the board. Terrific. Another off season waiting for February leftovers.

    ~~~~~~~~

    And this is a lot of my problem with Arod. He is hurting the team in a way that could be avoided if he’d just own up to his violations and just serve the time.

    ——————

    Mac – Color me shocked. :roll:

    Wang – I don’t think Arod should just fess up for the financial benefit of the Yankees. If it were you and your money/career, would you take the 200+ game suspension if you thought you might be able to get it down to 100-150?

    One problem is, as I posted yesterday (which may have gotten lost in the ridiculousness), that the Yankees actually don’t know what the savings will be on the LT if Arod is suspended. That being said, they know they’ll save (I’d imagine) at least half of his real dollars salary so sitting on their hands is kinda BS. They should at least work with the assumption they’ll get a $10-15ish million dollar credit for Arod’s deal. He won’t get off completely, the Yankees will get money back, and hopefully that’s enough information for them to go out and get some players.

  37. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Doreen – This place has always been better with you than without you.

  38. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Shame-

    I like having you around too !

    :)

  39. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    I thought when all of this had started that it was being reported the hearing for Alex might not take place until February…. Hope MLB tries to push this through sooner, because if Alex isn’t officially suspended until February/March, we’ll end up with another $30 million worth of players no one else wanted.

  40. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Shame-

    My recollection was a Nov./Dec. timeframe.

    Perhaps I’m wrong again ?

  41. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    MTU – I was going to say, ‘I feel about Doreen much as I feel about myself on LoHud!’ :D

    (That’s a compliment Doreen.. honestly! lol)

  42. blake August 30th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    The Yankees do have a plan……it’s called: 189 and bust.

  43. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    Hi Shame,

    It’s not the Yankees management or owners I’m concerned about, it’s the players who will be impacted by the fielding of another sub-par team.

    Unfortunately, both Arod and management don’t seem to care about anything BUT the money. It would be nice if the fans and the other players got some consideration.

    I know you don’t know me from Adam, but I would never have cheated in the first place. I actually still think there’s something to be said for honor and integrity, although I know it’s poo-pooed quite generally these days. That’s OK. So yes, I would take the punishment and move on.

  44. austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    Many have said the arbitration decision won’t happen until December. The team has a $25M payroll question. Whether they go after McCann or anyone in that cost structure will absolutely affect the team if they intend to stay below $189. They will certainly act as much. I have little doubt.

  45. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    The annoying part about the Sherman article is he’s saying that next year is out of their control…how?

    They could just proceed, business as usual, and take any rebate on Arod’s contract as a bonus instead of a requirement.

  46. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Blake-

    They will still have plenty of money to work with if a-Rod gets suspended which no doubt he will.

    They should be able to address most of their needs.

  47. 86w183 August 30th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    It looks to me that the haring will be scheduled as quickly as possible after the Yanks’ season ends. It’s really in Alex’ best interests to get it settled ASAP, not just the Yankees.

    From a business perspective its easy to see how getting under the luxury tax $$$ for even one year would pay of to the tune of more than $ 100 M if you consider all factors. It’s about $ 60 M in reduced payroll and taxes for 2014 alone. Add in the floating estimate of benefits from the revenue sharing formula $ 10-20 M and the lower tax rate in future years and it really adds up.

    However it will be very hard to do that and retain more than one of the top impending FA. some see a bidding frenzy for Cano but I don’t. I don’t think he gets dramatically more $$$ than Pedroia.

  48. Tackelberry August 30th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Yanks have to go about their business with the assumption that Arod will not be around for most if not all of next season. I seriously doubt they sit on their hands waiting for this case to be decided. They have other areas besides 3B to address tha thave no bearing on Arod. I expect them to bid aggressively on Tanaka for instance and maybe make a run at Garza since he requires no draft pick compensation. I would say that Grandy gets a QO as well as Cano and Kuroda. Do they dare offer Hughes one? That would be risky

  49. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Wang – You seem like a nice guy, but this is a case where both parties are focused on themselves.

    The Yankees aren’t being handcuffed by Alex acting the fool, IMO. And based on the rules, Alex does have a legitimate gripe with the length of the suspension (I mean, you’re talking about a discrepancy of over 100 games).

    Waiting for that hearing to play out could be a death wish for next year.. and that decision unfortunately falls on the shoulders of the org.

  50. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    If Young Stein does not plow the A-Rod windfall back into improving this Team that will tell you all you need to know about him.

    For now, he has the benefit of the doubt on that with me.

    I can’t see him not doing it.

    That would cause a major backlash.

    With what I know so far I would still prefer a new owner.

    I’d love to see him make me eat another meal of warmed over Crow, and I’ll be glad to say I was wrong about him and his intentions.

  51. austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Shame,

    Yes, how the Yankees act is solely up to them, but they will act as if they are bound and gagged by AROD and the alleged cap. We need Jerkface to remind us all how taxes next year for the same payroll costs no more than this year. It is all about profit.

  52. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    86w183 August 30th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    It looks to me that the haring will be scheduled as quickly as possible after the Yanks’ season ends.

    —————

    I think they need to wait until, at minimum, after the WS.

    Also, the revenue sharing rebate doesn’t come into play unless they stay under the LT for two season, not one.

  53. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Shame-

    My recollection was a Nov./Dec. timeframe.

    Perhaps I’m wrong again ?

    ————–

    I think both you and mac have the right of it.. but the thing is, once the hearing starts I’m not sure what the time frame beyond that point is. Is there a set amount of time each side has to present it’s case? Or can this drag on for weeks or perhaps over a month?

    It’s really hard to say. Hopefully we do know by the absolute latest December.

  54. Wang IS Taiwan August 30th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:49 am
    The annoying part about the Sherman article is he’s saying that next year is out of their control…how?

    They could just proceed, business as usual, and take any rebate on Arod’s contract as a bonus instead of a requirement.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    I agree completely that it’s ridiculous to say it’s out of their control. They’re just trying to turn the fans’ angry towards Arod rather than stand and take what they deserve for the bad job they’ve done for the past few years and what looks to be shaping up to be an even bleaker couple of years to come.

    Bunch of weenies.

  55. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Sherman also brought up another interesting point worth considering, however: Does Arod try to settle after finishing out this season?

    I hadn’t even thought about that tbh.

    Man, that would help out a lot.

  56. Shame Spencer August 30th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    :arrow:

  57. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    The Yankees need a 3b, a better starting C, and a power-hitting lefty-handed DH.

    If Kuroda does not return they’ll also need to add a quality arm.

  58. MTU August 30th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    New one ——>

  59. yanks61 August 30th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Good morning everyone. I’m sorry to hear that there’s been more nonsense on the game thread.I’m especially sorry to hear that Lohud may be losing a great poster in Doreen. I hope she’ll reconsider, but I competely understand her position. I’ve mentioned before that she’s one of the many reasons that I read this blog.

    I’m sure that a lot of you have probably read the recent threads on RAB. In one of the latest, Axisa made a case for trying to buy low on Danny Espinosa. If you’ve read Mike’s post, does anyone here have an opinion on that?

  60. austinmac August 30th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    I do think AROD wanted to show this year he could still play and have value after the suspension ends. Maybe they could settle on all of next year. Who knows?

  61. BIG AL August 30th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Doreen -

    Good morning, glad to see you here.

    Your points are well taken, but, please do not give in to him, for if you do, he wins. He is a bully of sorts, and he’ll not last if those of us that are sane stick together, and not allow him to do what he does.

  62. BIG AL August 30th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    MTU -

    Good morning, good to see you made if safely off your mountain, great pictures, as usual. Thanks for sharing.

  63. BIG AL August 30th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    mac -

    I’m guessing for sure, but, I think A-Rod gets between 50 – 75 games, no more.

  64. randy l. August 30th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    “This IS about one person who continues to post inappropriate, hurtful and personal things, and who has shown he will continue to do so unless he gets his own way.”

    doreen-

    i totally believe you about being harassed and i’m sure most of the others on here do too. what i’m saying about raising the level when disagreements take place is that when the crazies see people like trisha and i showing so much dislike and venom for each other it attracts them.

    i spoke directly to those who i interact in a negative way with last night. for my my on not going to go past a certain point with these people. the crazies don’t just appear, when we get down in the gutter it attracts them. that’s all i’m saying. i’m not going to do it anymore .
    as for people interacting with the crazies, that’s just incredibly bad behavior on the part of the adults.

    i’m with tar. if you have any more problems like before, i’ll boycott this blog and encourage others to do the same. maybe just come on sunday mornings. if enough people do this out of protest, the administrators will have no choice but to try harder to do something about it.
    this blog is not the only place that has problems. i just read a thing about huffington post thinking about stopping all comments from readers. abd they have like 50 people reading comments full time.

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