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Postgame notes: “It’s completely on me”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 01, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Shawn Kelley

Andy Pettitte did not question Joe Girardi’s decision to call in the relievers this afternoon.

“You can’t second guess going to our bullpen,” Pettitte said. “They’ve just been so great. We’ve got the best bullpen in the league as far as I’m concerned. It just wasn’t a good day for them. But nobody in here — not me, and I’m sure not our manager — is going to lose faith in those guys out there.”

But Pettitte also did not mask the frustration of watching this perfectly winable game slip away.

“It’s terrible,” he said. “It was like pulling teeth sitting there, especially seeing them put up that big a number.”

Afters six shutout innings, Pettitte allowed back-to-back singles in the seventh and had Matt Wieters — who’d struck out twice already — coming to the plate when Girardi called for Shawn Kelley. Despite the game’s best strand rate, Kelley needed just four pitches to give up the lead.

Four things to consider about the decision to go to Kelley in that situation…

1. Pettitte was at 93 pitches. In the past two months, he’s never thrown more than 102 pitches. “Andy’s not a guy that we really let go over 100 pitches,” Girardi said. “He’s not, because we feel that’s his limit.”
2. Pettitte admitted he was fatigued. “It was awfully hot,” he said. “Temperature might not have said it, but it was very muggy out there. At this stage, I get a little tired later in games.”
3. This is Chris Stewart’s evaluation of Pettitte in the seventh: “I just think he got a little tired, and he started missing over the plate a lot. They were fouling balls off, and those balls were missing their spots over the plate.”
4. Wieters has horrible career numbers off Pettitte, but in his career — and this season in particular — he’s much better against lefties than against righties.

As good as Kelley’s been, there was obvious logic in a decision that didn’t work out, at all. Kelley’s job is to get out of that inning, and he didn’t do his job. The Yankees lost the lead right then and there, and a series sweep was out the window.

“I know when Andy or CC is on the hill, with them being left-handed, I’m usually the first one to get the call,” Kelley said. “It wasn’t a matter of expecting it or not expecting it. I was ready. … It’s tough, obviously. Three-run run lead going iinto the seventh, chance for a sweep against the team we’re right there neck and neck with. It’s a tough one to swallow, and it’s completely on me for those pitches right there.”

Andy Pettitte, CC Sabathia• Far easier to question the decision to bring in Joba Chamberlain after Boone Logan put two runners on base. It’s been a while since Chamberlain pitched in a real leverage situation in a winable game, so why bring him in today? “The inning didn’t work out the way we want because we used Kelley, and the outs that we thought he would get, he didn’t get,” Girardi said. “And then Boone didn’t get the outs we thought he would get. So we had to make some changes.”

• Chamberlain actually had been better recently, but it’s hard to think he would have been the go-to choice in that situation had Preston Claiborne been on the roster. Girardi said he didn’t want to use Dave Robertson because it would have meant giving him six outs if he were going to form a bridge to the ninth. “I’ve done everything,” Chamberlain said. “So there’s nothing they can put me on the field in that I haven’t been in. It’s just execution of the pitch. that’s the one pitch I made a mistake on and they made me pay for it.”

• Why three straight sliders to Adam Jones? “We needed a double play right there,” Chamberlain said. “I threw him the sliders and just — as aggressive as Adam is — if I threw it in a good spot and hopefully get him to roll over and get us out of that inning, and keep us within one run. That was the thought process.”

• Interestingly, this was Stewart’s take on three straight sliders: “I wanted to throw another fastball just to get them off there, but Joba felt confident in the slider and unfortunately, all three of them weren’t really good sliders. He just didn’t have it coming out of the bullpen, and he left one hanging and he hit a homer on it.”

• The argument against putting much emphasis on the Chamberlain decision: It’s not like the Yankees offense mounted any sort of comeback, anyway. Obviously you wonder how things might have changed if it were a one-run game, but the Yankees went 1-for-10 with runners in scoring position and left 10 runners stranded. “We had a chance at times to tack on some runs and get some more runs, we just weren’t able to do it today,” Girardi said.

Alex Rodriguez, Adam Jones,  Eduardo Nunez• Stewart on the Hardy go-ahead homer: “Hardy’s got power and he’s got a lot of home runs, but that was definitely a Yankee Stadium home run today. It’s unfortunate that ball left. A foot further in the field, we’re talking sac fly, runner on first and the next guy could hit a groundball double play and we’re still winning. Unfortunately, just far enough to be a home run and they took the lead on it.”

• Did Curtis Granderson have a chance to catch that home run at the wall? “I got to it,” he said. Does that mean it should have been caught? “Not necessarily,” Granderson said. “Anything that hits the top of the wall you can’t say is a guaranteed ball you’re supposed to catch. You try to get there, and everything’s got to be timed up perfect, and there was something off one way or the other. I couldn’t really tell (what) exactly from the angles checking the replay, but I ended up missing it.”

• Is it just me, or did Derek Jeter’s at-bats look pretty bad today? He did lift a sacrifice fly that moved him ahead of Bernie Williams for sixth place on the Yankees all-time RBI list with 1,258.

• Final word goes to Girardi: “It’s tough when you’re up 3-0 in the sixth. We’re playing a team that, for the last two years, we’re basically even (against them) and the games have been very close. You talk about winning series, but when you win the first two and you have 3-0, you get greedy, and that’s the hard part.”

• Or should the final word go to Logan? “It’s like we feed off each other (in the bullpen),” he said. “It seems like when someone does good, we all do good. When someone sucks, we all suck. It’s just one of those days where everyone had their bad game all in one game.”

• Or maybe give the final word to Pettitte: “You hate that, because you feel like we were right there, late in the ballgame with a lead, and we usually win those games. But it just didn’t happen. … Ain’t no use in sitting here crying about it. We didn’t win. We played well. We won the series. We can’t worry about everybody else. We’ve got to focus on playing good baseball. If we do that, I think we’ll be where we want to be at the end of the season. If we don’t play well, we’ll run ourselves out of this.”

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141 Responses to “Postgame notes: “It’s completely on me””

  1. Jesus Bustero September 1st, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Eduardo Nunez should be able to hit .285 as a big leaguer. He needs to play more consistently. I’m glad they never traded him.

  2. Wang IS Taiwan September 1st, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Interestingly, this was Stewart’s take on three straight sliders: “I wanted to throw another fastball just to get them off there, but Joba felt confident in the slider and unfortunately, all three of them weren’t really good sliders.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Same old issues — Joba shaking off his catcher and thinking his slider is superb.

    This game is on Girardi. Can we please now have a manager who cares about winning games? Enough of how great he is. This is the stuff we’ve seen from him before. I don’t want to read any more “manager of the year” posts, please.

  3. MTU September 1st, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Piece of good news.

    Looks like the Rays are gonna lose.

    They’re down 5-1 going into the 9th.

    :)

  4. Shame Spencer September 1st, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    “I’ve done everything,” Chamberlain said. “So there’s nothing they can put me on the field in that I haven’t been in. It’s just execution of the pitch. that’s the one pitch I made a mistake on and they made me pay for it.

    —————

    Joba is in denial.

  5. Wang IS Taiwan September 1st, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Shame — He sure is and has been for a long time.

  6. Hankflorida September 1st, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    In a few weeks, I will be packing up and be going home to Florida. Since the Yankees have been mostly in the hunt for many years, I have gotten a great many Yankee games there during the end of September, and to my chagrin, this year may be an exception as they may fall out of the race way before the season ends because 7 losses may end their string. Yesterday, I wrote that the Yankees had Nova and Pettitte and a bullpen and that may not be enough. Take away the bullpen and the end seems much closer.

  7. MTU September 1st, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Shame-

    Joba should be in De Nile w/o a paddle.

    ;)

  8. Wang IS Taiwan September 1st, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Ian Kennedy (remember his post-game interviews?) and Joba obviously got the same media training.

  9. MTU September 1st, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Rays lost.

    :)

  10. jpb173 September 1st, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Jesus Bustero September 1st, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Eduardo Nunez should be able to hit .285 as a big leaguer. He needs to play more consistently. I’m glad they never traded him.

    =========================================

    Nunez still has a long way to go but, the way Derek Jeter is hitting right now I have a feeling that it will soon be time for “The Eduardo Nunez Era” in Yankee history.

    Jeter has been a great Yankee but I hope that he rides off into the sunset with Mariano and Andy this winter. I remember Mickey Mantle’s last few years (when the Yankees stunk and MM was a shell of his former self) and don’t want to see that happen to Derek.

  11. Wang IS Taiwan September 1st, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Wow — the Rays seem to be chocking again this year.

  12. RhapsodyInBlue September 1st, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    My guess is that Jeter lives in the gym the entire off season to come back in great shape.

    He has been battling injuries all season I think Jeter like Mo will retire on his terms.

  13. MTU September 1st, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    The Rays now have 4 games at the Halos.

    A split is the most likely outcome.

    I’d like to see us broom the White Sox during that time.

    We’d gain some ground that way.

    The Rays are not a good road team.

  14. jlyanks85 September 1st, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Damn we really blew a chance to be within 2.5 games. This game was a but won. One disasterous inning and a bad decision cost us the game. O’s are not that good, they should of been swept out of Yankee stadium.

  15. tucker September 1st, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Shame, I was about to pull out that Joba quote, but I see you beat me to it. Pitchers often use that cliche — “one mistake” — but Joba threw three cement mixers up there. Stewie was candid with his quote:

    “I wanted to throw another fastball just to get them off there, but Joba felt confident in the slider and unfortunately, all three of them weren’t really good sliders. He just didn’t have it coming out of the bullpen, and he left one hanging and he hit a homer on it.”

  16. jpb173 September 1st, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue September 1st, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    My guess is that Jeter lives in the gym the entire off season to come back in great shape.

    He has been battling injuries all season I think Jeter like Mo will retire on his terms.

    =========================================

    I hope that if he returns he will have a Mo-like year, but am really worried about him. Shortstop (unlike being a closer) is an ‘every day’/’every inning’ position. One simply can’t play one inning 50 times a year or so. Also, it is a very demanding position.

    I didn’t realize how much Jeter has aged until the YES network showed the replay of the game when he went head-first into the stands. Then when they showed him on the bench getting ready to hit, I realized that he was balding and becoming chubby. At age 39 (40 next year) I don’t think he can reverse the ravages of age but am willing to wait and see.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Hankflorida, take heart: we ain’t dead yet ;) You may get those meaningful games later this month.
    ///

    Joba has never been well suited to relief; never bought that he had a reliever’s “mentality” and all of that Francesa induced nonsense. He’s a Starter Interrupted, and never really got that reliever mojo going again since they jettisoned him to the bullpen in 2007.

    As such, he’s in an arrested development state as a pitcher whose team bailed on him way too early, and who never sent him back to the minors to the guy who had helped him the most, Scott Aldred. That’s a once upon a time and now, the cure is probably another environment, another uniform, a new pitching coach. That’s great, and I hope it works out for Joba, but he cannot find himself in a high-stakes game like today.

    I wonder if I dare hope that Dellin earned another appearance off today, or will Girardi be scared to use him in anything but a right and wrong-way blowout? He had Machado struck out, but of course, a green kid isn’t getting that call.

  18. luis September 1st, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Good evening guys,

    I must apologize… After my sweep post, everything went south… I shouldn’t have said it, I jinxed them…

    Having said the above… I don’t think Joba should have been out there in a close game… If we had Drob rested he should have gone out and try to get the six outs…. we are fighting for our lives here, I didn’t see the urgency Girardi had to have in this circumstances.

    About Joba… I think JAP is spot on

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Anyone in touch with GLove?

    I hope he is just consumed with his Broadway show and has not become another ex-Lohudder.

    I miss his fresh-off-live-game viewing takes, especially now that I don’t have season tickets any more myself. Having been so, though, I can often feel the pulse of the Stadium through his words. Miss his lucid and passionate Yankee commentary in general.

  20. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Hi guys, crappy loss today :(

  21. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Luis, hi, now you take amazing care of yourself!

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 1st, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    I just got to watch the postgame show (was out so DVRd it, or in the parlance of Directv, Genied it.) I haven’t had the “benefit” ;) of reading the posts so I have no idea whether there are posters who agree or disagree with my take.

    First of all, I can’t imagine being Joe Girardi. The guy has been a genius this season, with the injuries he’s dealt with, to be able to have the team where it is.

    I got to watch yesterday’s game, and when Joe left Nova in the game he later said that he had been watching Nova’s pitches and he was still really dealing, so that’s what caused him to leave Nova in the game. The inning in question was the one where Nova let someone on base on a grounder that went just past him, and he couldn’t find it. The point is that Joe felt that Nova was still going well.

    Today he said that the two batters who got on base before he took Andy out had both “squared up” on the ball and he felt it was time to take him out.

    The manager is always going to be questioned when a move he makes backfires – but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make the right move. And Kelly, as I remember, has been a very effective pitcher, so the fact that he had a rough outing is symbolic of nothing except the fact that it happens.

    Logan hadn’t given up a run in the last 8 games, and Joba had given up just one run in the last 7 (though Curry said that Joe was basically forced to go to Joba when Kelly and Logan hadn’t gotten the job done.)

    The bullpen has been fantastic. Today they imploded. Life happens.

  23. blake September 1st, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Jesus Bustero says:
    September 1, 2013 at 6:53 pm
    Eduardo Nunez should be able to hit .285 as a big leaguer. He needs to play more consistently. I’m glad they never traded him.

    He’s a career .272 hitter in the minors and .264 in the big leagues……that’s pretty much what he is. A .260-.270 hitter with a low OBP and a little pop and a little speed.

    He’d be an average big league SS offensively if he could play SS…..but given that he’s a below average defender then he’s pretty much a tweener utility guy for me

  24. luis September 1st, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Never understimate the captain… His game is a little off… But I think he will return to form

  25. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    the NYY are 19-20 since the break

  26. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:37 pm
    Hi guys, crappy loss today
    ———————-
    win one lose one..win two lose two …..

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Hey primo, what a downer, eh?

    Did you get a chance to see Betances?

    Irony is we could probably use him more as a starter, the way things have been going for Hughes/C/Kuroda of late.

    He could still piggy-back a bad start and probably go 3 innings, if the need arises. He’s shutdown and could really help us, but I just don’t think Girardi will trust him in the spots he can help most.

  28. blake September 1st, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    “Nunez still has a long way to go but, the way Derek Jeter is hitting right now I have a feeling that it will soon be time for “The Eduardo Nunez Era” in Yankee history.”

    Jeter is rusty…..if they are gonna make a run they need him and the only way for him to find his timing is to play.

    And if and when the Jeter era at SS ends…..they needs to find somebody better than Nunez ASAP

  29. luis September 1st, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Hello Jmills… everything just fine down here… How about you? enjoying the summer?

  30. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Joeman, u ok?

  31. tucker September 1st, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    This was Nunie’s year to prove he could be an everyday MLB shortstop, but he hasn’t been able to stay healthy. He’s made nice strides defensively. That sixth tool– health — hasn’t been there. Tough luck for him.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Luis, hi, now you take amazing care of yourself!
    ///

    jmills, very fine sentiment, I second that. C’s a lucky kid ;)

  33. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:42 pm
    Joeman, u ok?

    ————————-
    not really..

  34. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Luis, give me whatever car, and I’ll get through this rather banal summer :)

  35. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    pissed about my 2nd WR in fantasy football

  36. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Joe, there’s a whole bunch of people here pulling for you. You’re going to be better than ever.

  37. luis September 1st, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    JAP,

    A downer? Understatement of the century :(

    Yes, I did see him… What can i tell you?… His mechanics are a lot cleaner, his FB is electric with lots of late movement… Another waste “alla Joba”… I do understand that they were running out of time… If I were them, I’d sign him and keep him

    Our best case scenario would be that he actually is allowed to pitch this season as is kept as a potential option for next year.

  38. Madrugador September 1st, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    I hope we don’t have to see Joba any more this season. He is ineffective and will not be with the team next season. Betances can’t be any worse and he might actually be in the bull pen next year.

  39. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:46 pm
    Joe, there’s a whole bunch of people here pulling for you. You’re going to be better than ever.

    ————————————–
    that’s a problem also…on my feet to much the last couple of days…thanks for the thought your pretty cool

  40. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    blake, have you seen Culver’s numbers down the stretch? SSS but pretty nice.

    Maybe as a strictly RH-focused hitter he is starting to find something offensively. The hands, range and arm are already there.

  41. luis September 1st, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Don’t forget Claiborne…. To think that he was sent down

  42. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    When you are happy, you enjoy the music. But, when you are sad you understand the lyrics..

  43. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    I want to be your favorite HELLO and your hardest GOODBYE…

  44. luis September 1st, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Good thought Joe…. And very true… Never thought about it though

  45. Yogi Mantle September 1st, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Slip sliding away…. what a season.

  46. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    When you bring peace to the past, you can move forward to the future.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Yes, I did see him… What can i tell you?… His mechanics are a lot cleaner, his FB is electric with lots of late movement… Another waste “alla Joba”… I do understand that they were running out of time… If I were them, I’d sign him and keep him

    Our best case scenario would be that he actually is allowed to pitch this season as is kept as a potential option for next year.
    ///

    luis, even Cashman said if it were not for the service clock they would have left him in the rotation.

    He had some good final starts after a rocky beginning to 2013 and what I’m hoping is that the repetition of outings (like every other day) he’ll be able to stay intact and they rethink his role and start building him up again.

    I do believe that actually has a decent chance of happening.

  48. blake September 1st, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    September 1, 2013 at 7:49 pm
    blake, have you seen Culver’s numbers down the stretch? SSS but pretty nice.

    I have…..it’s encouraging because really with his defensive uploads he just needs to hit enough

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    joeman September 1st, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    When you are happy, you enjoy the music. But, when you are sad you understand the lyrics..
    ///

    That’s nice.

  50. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    I’m a hopeless Paul Simon and Art fan. My Little Town etc are beyond comprehensive :D

  51. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    JAP,

    You know how big a fan I am of Nova…. Well, I think that if they have some patience with Dellin, he can be even better than the former… His stuff is Nintendo like… All he needs is reps and a good coach along his side to help him figure things out

  52. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Can you imagine the people who went nuts on Dylan for going electric!? I mean, what if Rush were invited :D

  53. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Trisha,

    I do agree that he has done a very good job this season ( Girardi )… But today he didn’t managed with the sense of urgency he needed to… We need every win we can scrap… That game was ours, we let it slip away… And to me at this juncture is almost unacceptable

  54. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Luis, I trust if I take me Subaru your way, the roads are going to be clear of, ice? … Doesn’t matter, the thing has 4 wheel Bobby Orr drive and a turbocharger!

  55. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Imagine a 1-2-3 of Nova, Banuelos and Betances at the top of our rotation

  56. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Jmills,

    No ice down here… But if you want to go to the real beautiful places down here a four wheel drive car will come in handy ;)

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    jmills, Garfunkel singing “That’s All I Know” is a raw and beautiful listen.

  58. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Imagine a 1-2-3 of Nova, Banuelos and Betances at the top of our rotation
    ///

    OMG, that makes me feel like doing one of those not-quite-english Ted Baxter utterances from the Mary Tyler Moore show (like when he hears how much money Gordie the Sports News guy is making) ;)

    Throw Jo-Ram in there, too. Man.

  59. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Talking about J Ram…. What happened to him? I haven’t heard anything else from him

  60. tomingeorgia September 1st, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    I on’t get into these music discussions, but the all-time rueful song is “Drift Away”.

  61. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Luis, it would be an honour to visit down under; if Naomi Watts and Nicole came from beneath I am, it can’t be so bad! :) Rock on!

  62. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Jmills,

    I am not Australian… But I like your taste though ;)

  63. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Tom, hi.

  64. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Luis, you can be Aussie if you want to :)

  65. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Blake,

    By the way… I don’t think Nunez is a 260-270 hitter in the majors… He has potential and speed

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    His stuff is Nintendo like
    ///

    luis, cymbal crash. LOL. That’s Betances.

    Yeah, they are both GO and K guys who make hitters uncomfortable and just can’t put good wood to.

  67. tomingeorgia September 1st, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Hey, jmills. Lousy outcome today. Get’em tomorrow!

  68. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    Yeah, Tom, it sure was a kick in the teeth king of outcome.

    ” Carry on my wayward son! “

  69. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Tom,

    Thanks for the good vibes the other day… I really appreciated it

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Talking about J Ram…. What happened to him? I haven’t heard anything else from him
    ///

    I have no idea. First, I thought it was just a clerical move, but he’s been on the DL forever.

    I did ask Chad to find out about it and he said he would ask Newman. I also asked if he could confirm what Yankeefem heard unofficially about Anderson Feliz – the single-A infielder who reminds me a little of Cano. She heard he is out because of hip surgery, which is such a downer.

  71. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    JAP,

    We need another lefty though… But they produce a lot of groundballs and k’s… Just what the doctor ordered for NYS

  72. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    Hip surgery? at that age? Pardon my pessimism, but that doesn’t bode well…

  73. joeman September 1st, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    A gun can kill,fire can burn, wind can chill and the mind can learn.Anger can rage till it tears you apart, but the power of your smile can melt a frozen heart.

  74. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Joe, as I’ve said prior, Richard, u sure do hold a poet’s soul!!!

  75. luis September 1st, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    I am calling in it a night guys… enjoy the rest of the evening

  76. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Luis, nite!

  77. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    primo, yes, we would need a second lefty for sure. We have some in the system, but a few years away.

    Very scary if Feliz had the surgery. He’s easily the most pure talent guy I’ve seen at the lower levels. Has it all. He needs Dr. Philippon! Alex turning that double play today means the doc did a pretty bang up job.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Good night, primo, tomorrow we start over.

  79. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Alfred,…that’s la spirit in la radio!

  80. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    More and more I’m taken to listening to radio Canada. 90.3. Fm – french radio Canada. The Francois have a way of telling you to go to the bathroom and making it fun :D

  81. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    jmills, hope always resides in tomorrow’s game :)

    Have a good night, all.

  82. jacksquat September 1st, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    “I wasn’t comfortable with using Robertson for 6 outs”

    - Joe Girardi

    I’m glad you are more comfortable with losing, Joe.

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    jmills, raclette and napoleons for dessert on rue st. denis in the hometown of les habitants :)

    Adieu.

  84. I Am Winning September 1st, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    “that’s the one pitch I made a mistake on and they made me pay for it.”

    I love how Joba makes it seem like if a meatball is hit, then, and only then, is it considered a mistake. He made several mistakes in that at bat and it finally caught up to him.

  85. Hankflorida September 1st, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:13 pm
    Luis, it would be an honour to visit down under; if Naomi Watts and Nicole came from beneath I am, it can’t be so bad! Rock on!

    The first time I saw Kidman and Watts was in a 1991 Australian movie, “Flirting,” and you could see that Nicole was destined for stardom. Tandy Newton and Noah Taylor were also in the movie. The Aussies really know how to make movies.

  86. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    Hank, I’ve been pulling for Naomi and Nicole ( look what she had to put up with ) for quite some time.

  87. blake September 1st, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Blake,

    “By the way… I don’t think Nunez is a 260-270 hitter in the majors… He has potential and speed”

    Hey Luis,

    I just haven’t seen anything to make me think otherwise…..his track record both in the minors and this far in the majors suggests that’s what he is and to me observationally that’s what I see too.

    He can run, he can hit with a little power…..but the hit tool is just ok for me. I don’t think he’s the answer at SS going forward at all……JMO

  88. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Hi blake, I might require Dave Stieb afterall. I would be happy at this point with Alomar back at second :D

  89. blake September 1st, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    jmills says:
    September 1, 2013 at 9:02 pm
    Hi blake, I might require Dave Stieb afterall. I would be happy at this point with Alomar back at second

    Alomar was something….best defensive 2B of all time for my money

  90. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    blake, you have to consider, Joe Morgan of course along with Rogers Hornsby.

    I was a lucky S.O.B to witness,..Alomar!

  91. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    One of my favourite Jays is understandably,….Paul Molitar!

  92. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Tony Fernandez was a brilliant Blue Jay. Hall all the way.

  93. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Alfredo Griffen is alright by me :)

  94. exiledintampa September 1st, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Why isn’t “phonetic” spelled the way it sounds?

  95. longtimefan September 1st, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    This was one of the six or so games that Girardi blows every year, no matter which way he tries to spin it, Joba should have never been in this game.

  96. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Because, phonetic is effed up!

  97. exiledintampa September 1st, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Joba should stick to jumping on trampolines

  98. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Trampoelines – I don’t wan’t – go, somebody named, Templeton at short.

  99. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    It was an historic trade- Gary Templeton for, Ozzie Smith.

  100. bruceb September 1st, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    This was one of the six or so games that Girardi blows every year.

    No one ever remembers the ones they win. For better or worse, Girardi has a pecking order and he sticks to it.

    Pulling Pettitte wasn’t the issue. Bringing Joba in was. Mind you, the horse may well have bolted by then anyway.

  101. jlyanks85 September 1st, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    We already were losing when joba first game in. He just sealed the deal and made the game unwinnable. Giving up the 3-0 lead in the first place to a offense they was lifeless is what bothers me the most.

  102. jlyanks85 September 1st, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    *that

  103. rm September 1st, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    Giradi had no good options when Kelley and Logan couldn’t get anybody out. If he put in Robertson and they didn’t score again it ould have been an even worse outcome. We will need reeif pitching when Hughes pitches. Cashman gets a part of the blame because Claiborne wasn’t available but going with Kelley and Logan in the 6th and 7th innings has been a good choice all year. Unfortunately it wasn’t a good choice tonight.

    Andy was very good for 6 innings. That is a very positive takeaway from this game. Nova and Kiroda need to continue to pitch like aces. CC looks like he is close, he has been good for longer periods but he still has at least 1 bad inning in each game. We can hope he will be good enough. Hughes is the biggest problem but I don’t think there is a better option available unless Warren could step up. The best hope if for the offense to be very good when Huges pitches.

    They probably need to go about 20-6 to get in. Could possibly get in with less wins if they win all 10 agains Boston and Tampa Bay. Remember it ain’t over till it’s over.

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 1st, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    “But today he didn’t managed with the sense of urgency he needed to… We need every win we can scrap… That game was ours, we let it slip away… And to me at this juncture is almost unacceptable”

    luis, I didn’t watch the game so I can’t speak to his in-game managing directly, but listening to him on the post game and what he had to say, it sure sounds like he was managing with a sense of urgency. You know he’s always going to be second guessed when something doesn’t work out. If he didn’t pull Andy and Andy gave up the homer, people would have said he should have pulled him when he let two base runners on. I have to believe that Joe wanted that game more than we can imagine. He was making moves that he believed would insure a win. I seriously cannot imagine him managing without a sense of urgency, especially at this time. He said that Andy wasn’t going to go over a pitch count of 100 – probably trying to preserve what he can just in case- and he said Andy was close to that. He said he had squared up two batters in a row.

    I have to trust that he is watching closely and makes his moves with his starters based on a lot of information, including what he is seeing from them at any point in time, and the score at the time also.

  105. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Trish, Andy is #1 by me :)

  106. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    I’m still trying to figure out how, Danica Patrick and the rest of them, can put the Villeneuve name down. Let’s get this thing straight, if you beat me to the corner,….you can have it

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 1st, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    jmills, while Andy is #1, you have to realize that his manager knows exactly what he’s dealing with. It’s not enough for us to think of him in a certain way. The guy who knows him inside out is the one who is making the decisions. He made the right decision. It just didn’t work out. If he thought that the hits Andy had given up were such that he didn’t have to worry about the rest of the inning – something akin to the hit Nova gave up yesterday, when the ball just squibbed by him on the mound – then he would have left Andy in. He wasn’t leaving him in beyond 100 pitches. I don’t know what his pitch count was, but Joe said it was close. Again, Kelley has been great for the Yanks, and Logan was also on a very good run. The bullpen has been an incredible strength for the Ys. Right moves, wrong outcome.

    We have to put on our big kid pants and realize that life doesn’t always work out the way we’d like it to, despite the best of efforts.

    I’m behind Girardi all the way. The man knows what he’s doing.

  108. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 1st, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Anyway jmills, my fall allergies and I are going to hit the rack. (Boo to fall allergies!)

    :)

  109. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Trish, given la cicumstances, Joe has been ever so tres excellantes!

  110. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Cicumstances is, circumstances, sorry, people :(

  111. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    http://r5—sn-tt17rn7r.c......&mv=m

  112. Dill Pickler September 1st, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    jpb173: “Jeter has been a great Yankee but I hope that he rides off into the sunset with Mariano and Andy this winter. I remember Mickey Mantle’s last few years (when the Yankees stunk and MM was a shell of his former self) and don’t want to see that happen to Derek.”
    ————————————————————————-

    Ever hear the saying, “it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”? It applies to you, here.

    Jeter has had 37 at-bats since he came off the d.l. He had just 5 at-bats before that. He is in his spring training right now. Yes, the timing sucks, but the guy hit .316-.362-.429 with 15 HRs LAST YEAR. He hasn’t just suddenly gone over the hill. He’s one of the greatest shortstops to ever play the game, and he’s coming off a major ankle injury. And you think he should retire and go out on this season’s sour note, so we can replace him with … wait for it …… Eduardo Nunez!!!! because he’s not in mid-season form yet???

    What team do you root for?

  113. jmills September 1st, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    Jeter is the man, he fields like, Belanger, and gets way more hits!

  114. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 12:01 am

    Jeter is the presence that makes you feel that this comeback is possible – or even likely

  115. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:02 am

    The best SS I ever had, Tony Fernandez. The guy was simply out of this world. I’m so glad he and Alomar got together in, ’93.

  116. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:04 am

    No matter what happens, Jeter has said, ” I’m up there! “.

  117. roxy1 September 2nd, 2013 at 12:05 am

    “He hasn’t just suddenly gone over the hill. He’s one of the greatest shortstops to ever play the game, and he’s coming off a major ankle injury. ”

    You do realize next year he will be a 40 year old coming off a major injury that he couldn’t recover from and missed virtually an entire season? I don’t think he will retire and I do think he will do better than he is showing now…but all the fawning hero worship slop about how great he was simply is not relevant to how good he will be in the future. Some of you think Jeter is just gonna be the same “Jeter” for eternity. Time to face reality.

  118. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:08 am

    Randy, hi, …the guy is a hall of famer.

  119. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:12 am

    Roxette were and are, a very good band.

  120. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 12:27 am

    Tony Fernandez the last Yankee to hit for the cycle and the injury that gave Jeter the opportunity to play

  121. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 12:30 am

    Oops I forgot about Melky’s cycle in 2009

  122. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:30 am

    Way back when, before the Jays were good, they had 2 Woods in their ’77 camp. Gary and Alvis. Alvis had a great career with Toronto and then, Oakland. I also recall, Sam Ewing, and Doug Radar. Hector Torres hit the first Blue Jay grand slam I think.Bob Bailor had that one solid year, and then we gave him up for, Roy Lee Jackson from your Mets.

  123. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:41 am

    I can’t stand Torontonians who don’t understand,…Dave Stieb is more than alright :)!

  124. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 12:43 am

    Yankee fans understand how good Dave Stieb was

  125. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:46 am

    Rm, before the Jays got, Henke, Stieb pitched his guts out often in a 4 man rotation.

  126. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 12:51 am

    Stieb almost had a perfect game against the Yankees

  127. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 12:56 am

    rm, yes, it was broken up with 2 out in the ninth, although I think it was only a potential no hitter and not a perfect game. Jim Clancy had a perfect game broken up in the ninth.

  128. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 1:01 am

    No it was a perfect game broken up by Roberto Kelly
    ————————-
    From Espn.com:
    Mark Simon, a stats guru at ESPN Stats & Information, passes along this list of those in the past 25 seasons that have had perfect games broken up with two outs in the ninth inning.

    Yu Darvish was the fifth. Here are the other four:

    Armando Galarraga, 2010 Tigers vs. Indians (6/2/2010, Jason Donald broke it up)

    Mike Mussina, 2001 Yankees vs. Red Sox (9/2/2001, Carl Everett)

    Brian Holman, 1990 Mariners vs. A’s (4/20/1990, Ken Phelps [homer])

    Dave Stieb, 1989 Toronto vs. Yankees (8/4/1989, Roberto Kelly [double])

  129. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 1:01 am

    When I think of seasons, Guidry immediately comes to mind. 25-3 in ’78. Wonderful, the guy is amazing.

  130. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 1:02 am

    Roberto Kelly, I remember.

  131. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 1:03 am

    Guidry was nearly unhittable that year

  132. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Good Night! Time for bed

  133. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 1:06 am

    rm, I recall a Monday night ABC game vs Oakland, and Ron was mowing them down!

  134. jmills September 2nd, 2013 at 1:10 am

    rm, nite, an honour discussing Dave Stieb and all :)

  135. Dill Pickler September 2nd, 2013 at 1:32 am

    Roxy1: “You do realize next year he will be a 40 year old coming off a major injury that he couldn’t recover from and missed virtually an entire season? I don’t think he will retire and I do think he will do better than he is showing now…but all the fawning hero worship slop about how great he was simply is not relevant to how good he will be in the future. Some of you think Jeter is just gonna be the same “Jeter” for eternity. Time to face reality.”

    ———————————————————————-

    Oh, so you “think” that next year, when he will actually be some 16 months removed from that major injury (unlike this spring training which was just 5 months after the injury/surgery) and will have a full spring training, he will “do better than he is showing now” — which is hitting .184 after 37 at-bats? Wow, what a leap of faith you’re willing to give one of the alltime Yankee greats! Really, you think a guy with a .313 lifetime batting average, 3311 career hits, who hit .316-.362-.429 last season at age 38, will hit better than .184??? You sure you want to go out on that limb???

    Yes, Jeter is human, and he is aging, and there will come a time when his career will come to an end, and that time may be at the end of next season. Then again it might not. But to hear actual supposed Yankee fans suggest that that time is now, because after 37 at-bats and no spring training he isn’t yet hitting like the Jeter we’ve all watched all these years, is pretty disgusting. After all Jeter has given this franchise, he deserves to go out on his own terms. And all the short-sighted, nonsensical whiny b*tchy slop about how he looks after a grand total of 37 at-bats simply is not even worthy of discussion amongst Yankee fans. 37 at-bats, and you’re ready to throw him under the bus. Really, you ought to have your Yankee fan memberships revoked, if you even are Yankee fans and not simply lowlife trolls.

  136. Dill Pickler September 2nd, 2013 at 1:40 am

    By the way, Roxy1 and jpb173, you sound like the same geniuses who have written Jeter off after the 2010 season, and after he had a cold week in 2011, and a cold few games at the start of 2012. Time to face reality: you’re simply wrong. All the time.

  137. jacksquat September 2nd, 2013 at 2:09 am

    Girardi’s bad decision wasn’t bringing in Kelley, it was throwing fuel on the fire bringing in Joba down only 1 run. You use your shutdown reliever in that situation, I don’t care if it’s the 7th and not the 8th. You can use someone else in the 8th or have Robertson pitch two innings. This game was against a wildcard opponent, the next game is not. If Hughes (who shouldn’t even be starting anymore) gets clobbered tomorrow they have Huff and call ups. It doesn’t matter that they didn’t score another run, the game is played much differently for 1 run than 4. Girardi is just too narrow minded and sticks to his rules no matter what, one of the major complaints I have about him.

  138. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 am

    Sick of Joba using the “I just made one bad pitch” excuse. This is at least the 3rd time he has said that after a game. It just isn’t accurate. He is flat out trolling everyone when he says that.

  139. Wang IS Taiwan September 2nd, 2013 at 3:36 am

    Interesting stat:

    David Waldstein @DavidWaldstein

    Pettitte’s batting average against after 75 pitches .322.

  140. theREALkevin September 2nd, 2013 at 4:47 am

    Oh Joba. What a waste of talent. I really wish he would get another chance. I think a change of scenery could help him.

  141. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 am

    Morning, folks!
    Time to regroup and sweep the White Sox. Pray that it id the Good Phil today, although we haven’t seen much of that guy over the last few months.

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