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Game 137: Yankees vs. White Sox

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Yankees lineup

1. Brett Gardner CF

2. Derek Jeter SS

3. Robinson Cano 2B

4. Alfonso Soriano LF

5. Alex Rodriguez 3B

6. Vernon Wells DH

7. Curtis Granderson RF

8. Mark Reynolds 1B

9. Austin Romine C

Phil Hughes RHP

White Sox lineup

1. Alejandro De Aza LF

2. Gordon Beckham 2B

3. Alexei Ramirez SS

4. Adam Dunn 1B

5. Paul Konerko DH

6. Avisail Garcia CF

7. Conor Gillaspie 3B

8. Jordan Danks RF

9. Josh Phegley C

Jose Quintana LHP

 

Umpires: Mike Everitt HP, Dan Bellino 1B, Bruce Dreckman 2B, Tim Welke 3B

TV/Radio: YES/WCBS 880

Weather: Cloudy, 81 degrees, humid

 

Fast Finishers: Since Joe Girardi took over in 2008, the Yankees have a .585 regular-season winning percentage (86-61) in September and October, second best in the AL.

Vs. the left: The Yankees are 25-18 vs. lefty starters, including 15-8 at home.

Streaking: The White Sox own a six-game winning streak against the Yankees, with all the wins in Chicago, including a three-game sweep last month. The White Sox are 56-79 and last in the Central, but they have won 10 of 15 and 16 of 26 even after just getting swept over three games in Boston.

Mr. No-Decision: Jose Quintana is 7-4 with a 3.66 ERA and 16 no-decisions, a major-league high and a franchise record. He beat the Yankees Aug. 5, allowing a run and eight hits over 6 2/3.

Claiborne up: The Yankees called up Preston Claiborne from Single-A Tampa before the game for stint No. 4 this year.

 

Update 1:12: Hughes gets off to a good start, 10 pitches, three balls in the air, three outs.

Update, 1:18: Gardner leads off with ground-rule double to center and Jeter brings him around with a single to left, snapping 0-for-14 slide. 1-0.

Update, 1:30: One out, one on in the top of the second, and now we have a rain delay.

Update, 1:42: I’m sure Hughes is hoping this will pass quickly. He has an excellent track record against the White Sox, 1.38 ERA in 10 games, including six starts, 3-2 record. At Yankee Stadium, he’s 2-0 with a 1.27 ERA against them over five games, including three starts.

Update, 2:05: Still raining, sorry.

Update, 3:04: Lefty warming up in bullpen. I assume it’s Huff, but it’s hard to see from here. The delay has been 1:34 so far. The game will restart around 3:25, according to the announcement we just heard.

Update, 3:05: Grounds crew out for the tarp.

Update, 3:06: It is Huff warming.

Update, 3:08: Rain was unlucky break for Hughes. No chance to snap his career-high winless streak. It will extend to 10 starts unless there’s still a rainout later.

Update, 3:18: Robin Ventura will apparently switch from the lefty Quintana to the righty Dylan Axelrod. Huff takes the mound now. The lefty is 1-0 with a 0.87 ERA in five relief outings since coming up from Triple-A. Sorry, that actually includes one outing in his previous stint here. He had four scoreless outings since the call-up. And he sets down the two batters he faces in the second.

Update, 3:30: Hughes threw 20 pitches, 14 for strikes, allowed no runs, one hit, faced five batters. It’s raining again, by the way.

Update, 3:34: Outside of drilling Reynolds, Axelrod was in charge in the second.

Update, 3:43: Huff gives up a leadoff double to Danks in the third, then strands him at third with two outs.

Update, 3:52: Jeter flies out to the fence in right and Cano singles hard to center, top moments from the last of the third. Still 1-0 Yankees.

Update, 3:59: Huff looking good again, retired eight of nine so far, 1-0 heading for the home fourth.

Update, 4:00: I’ve been away for a few weeks on vacation. Don’t hear boos during A-Rod intros today unlike when I was last here last month.

Update, 4:02: A-Rod hears more cheers after slicing leadoff double to right.

Update, 4:08: Bases loaded, no outs for the Yankees. Reynolds up.

Update, 4:14: Reynolds RBI infield single, Romine two-run single, 4-0.

Update, 4:17: Gardner RBI double, 5-0.

Update, 4:20: Jeter RBI infield hit, ties Eddie Collins for ninth on all-time list at 3,313. It’s 6-0. Still no outs with five runs in.

Update, 4:23: Yankees messing up my scorecard. A-Rod up for second time this inning after Soriano RBI double.

Update, 4:26: A-Rod walks after a dropped foul pop, bases loaded again. Ventura finally pulls Axelrod. Jake Petricka comes on.

Update, 4:32: It’s 9-0, inning still not over.

Update, 4:34: The inning is over. Eight runs scored, six earned.

Update, 4:40: A single off Huff, but that was it in the fifth.

Update, 4:47: Yankees go 1-2-3 in the fifth after sending 13 men up in the fourth.

Update, 4:55: A single off Huff, but that was it in the sixth. 4 2/3, no runs, three hits. Want him to replace Hughes?

Update, 5:01: Yankees go down 1-2-3 again, 9-0 after six.

Update, 5:06: The shutout just flew out to the second deck in left. Konerko solo shot off Huff, 9-1.

Update, 5:08: Cano just turned a sensational catch-and-throw double play to end the inning.

Update, 5:10: David Purcey on for the White Sox.

Update, 5:20: The Yankees are keeping the game moving now. Leadoff walk, then 1-2-3. It’s 9-1 after seven. Cesar Cabral will replace Huff for his major-league debut. Reynolds moves from first to third to replace A-Rod. Lyle Overbay comes on to play first. Huff allowed one run and five hits over 5 2/3 excellent innings.

Update, 5:30: Cabral allows a single and strikes out two. The Yankees have now used 51 players this season, tying the franchise record.

Update, 5:36: J.R. Murphy bats for Cano, major-league debut.

Update, 5:39: Murphy is credited with a single on a hard-hit ball that third baseman Conor Gillaspie fielded but couldn’t hold. Murphy, by the way, was the franchise record setter, 52nd player used.

Update, 5:47: Warren will try to close it out.

Update, 5:55: Yankees win 9-1.

 
 

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467 Responses to “Game 137: Yankees vs. White Sox”

  1. jmv September 2nd, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Good afternoon

    It seems our PC’s in the minors are way better than the ones on MLB. All the good prospects vanish when they arrive at YS. Who’s getting better? Nova and Phelps, both spent time in AAA

  2. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Is it too early to start warming Warren?

    ————–

    Post of the day.

    I’m sure this has already been covered, so my apologies for being repetitive, but why Wells..?

  3. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    jmv – attention from the staff in the Bronx is the kiss of death. The guys that they ignor turn out better.

  4. charlestonchew September 2nd, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Phil’s fastball has a lot of movement today. Looks like he might have a good start if he can mix 3 pitches instead of just 2 like he often stubbornly does.

  5. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    We just celebrated after that 1-2-3 inning by Phil…… :)

  6. charlestonchew September 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    If I’m the Yankees, I sign Brett Gardner to a long, team-friendly extension ASAP.

  7. charlestonchew September 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    And I said that before he hit that double…. =)

  8. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Gardner!!!!!!!

  9. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    ggbg is hot

  10. tucker September 2nd, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Gardy is hungry for the playoffs ….

  11. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Maybe that will get Jeter going….

  12. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Gardner loves him some doubles. Cap’n brings him in. So let it be written, so let it be done.

  13. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    The Captain coming through. I don’t ever worry about Jeter, but that’s just me of course.

  14. tucker September 2nd, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Jeter is moving well for an old dude coming off an ankle injury

  15. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    this is good score early so the Chisox give up

  16. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Way to run, Cap’n.

  17. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Unknown, QFT.

  18. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    I don’t like the way the left foot hit the bag. Don’t scare my Derek!

  19. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Jeter took a little long to gather himself at 3rd after he tagged up. I hope he is fine. Probably just wanted to catch an extra breath.

  20. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    YF – Enjoy your day. Afternoon Yankee baseball is awesome.

  21. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    @BobKlap

    Jeter flexing his right leg after tagging up from second base. Looks uncomfortable.

  22. Melkmanisinhotlanta September 2nd, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Jeet shoulda taken the year off to recover.

  23. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Well we got one…..would have liked two

  24. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    3-4-5 hitters have to produce

  25. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Hopefully Hughes doesn’t give the run back right away

  26. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    Hopefully Hughes doesn’t give the run back right away
    ————–
    Yes

  27. tucker September 2nd, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Leaving a runner at third and one out — hope that doesn’t come back to haunt them.

  28. charlestonchew September 2nd, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Nothing is going to stop Derek Jeter from playing in September–he will hide any injury for the rest of the way.

  29. charlestonchew September 2nd, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Phil is throwing the CB for a strike, could be good news for the outing.

  30. tucker September 2nd, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Dunn may hit one to Jersey

  31. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    The Jeter/Nunez stuff last night was ridiculous… if Nunez ever was the player this blog would have you believe he was, he’d have a lot more trade value.

  32. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    If they knew this rain was coming why did they start the game on time? How stupid.

  33. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Now we get Warren warming up

  34. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Whoa, that was fast… how long before the moat seats get an awning lol?

  35. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:31 pm
    Whoa, that was fast… how long before the moat seats get an awning lol?

    ————-
    Glad I’m not there today

  36. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Hughes has no luck. Looks like he won’t come back out if the weather reports are right.

  37. jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    A long rain delay here would be beneficial to the Yankees. If both pitchers can’t come back then the Sox lose Quintana while we would lose Hughes. I’ll take that!

  38. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Annnnd, my chicken cheesesteak just got here. Eff.

    Please let this be a quick delay, cause I don’t want these buffalo wings getting cold.

  39. pkyankfan69 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Had free tickets to the game today… Decided not to go because of the weather, looks like we made the right call… Radar looks ominous, pouring here in central NJ.

  40. jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    The Jeter/Nunez stuff last night was ridiculous… if Nunez ever was the player this blog would have you believe he was, he’d have a lot more trade value.

    =========================================

    Someone is going to have to replace Jeter eventually…and that day will soon be on us. Nunez is no Derek Jeter….but no one else will ever be. Remember its always difficult to be the first guy to replace a legend and I think the Nunez understands that. If the Yankees have to replace ARod, Pettitte, Rivera and Kuroda in the next year or two (as well as Jeter) then they will do well to have Nunez around.

  41. joeman September 2nd, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    amazing how they start a game when the radar clearly shows rain is on the way..this has happen a few times this year at YS

  42. pkyankfan69 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Instead we have a nice hunk of beef in the crock pot, delish smelling house for the day!

  43. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    I’d love to see Warren come in and pitch 6 or 7 good innings after the rain delay to establish himself as the 5th starter going forward

  44. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Last thing this team needs is a double header. Game needs to be played today, but long delay isn’t the worst in the world with Hughes.

  45. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    Annnnd, my chicken cheesesteak just got here. Eff.

    Please let this be a quick delay, cause I don’t want these buffalo wings getting cold.
    ——————
    What does the delay have to do with it? :)

  46. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    He is lucky if Girardi even lets him touch it this year….
    ————

    @JackCurryYES

    During delay, the only Yankee still sitting in the dugout is J.R. Murphy. I don’t blame the kid. Wants to be as close to field as possible.

  47. jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    joeman September 2nd, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    amazing how they start a game when the radar clearly shows rain is on the way..this has happen a few times this year at YS

    =======================================

    Read my post above (@ 1:34 PM). The Yankees probably hoped this would happen. The White Sox losing Quintana will hurt them more than us losing Hughes.

  48. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Nunez was hobbling yesterday on the bases.
    Maybe 3/4 speed, prolly 5/8ths.

  49. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Shame sits in the moat, impressive!

  50. joeman September 2nd, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    rain is just south of Phil…moving northeast but not very fast…if no breaks I say at least 1.5 hrs

  51. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Shame. Ever sit in the Delta Suite?

  52. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    jpb173 – Of course it’s hard for anyone to replace a legend, but what I’m talking about is the over-inflation of Nunez’s ability.

    Greg – I like to eat and watch baseball! :mad:

  53. joeman September 2nd, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    joeman September 2nd, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    amazing how they start a game when the radar clearly shows rain is on the way..this has happen a few times this year at YS

    =======================================

    Read my post above (@ 1:34 PM). The Yankees probably hoped this would happen. The White Sox losing Quintana will hurt them more than us losing Hughes.
    ————————
    didn’t look but should have

  54. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    mick – Have never sat in the moat or the Delta Suite.

  55. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    oh shame i thought you said moat my bad….

  56. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    I said moat before… I’m surprised that $1,000 doesn’t buy you a retractable awning.

    You know it’s coming lol.

  57. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Jay Jaffe?@jay_jaffe1m
    spinning beachball of death! RT @AckertNYDN: infielder said playing behind Dice-K like waiting for little circle to stop on your computer

  58. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    shame-sat in delta suite yesterday and they are better than the moat seats.
    sort of like the lower balcony at the Beacon.
    btw time for the allmans this sat. at jones beach…

  59. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    “During delay, the only Yankee still sitting in the dugout is J.R. Murphy. I don’t blame the kid. Wants to be as close to field as possible.”

    got murphy to come over an sign 12 year olds program up in maine this past spring. no one else was around. he din’t have to do it. could have walked off. but he went out of his way walked over talked with kid. really hard worker and he gets it.

    one of the few yankees on a 35 degree day who went out and really did his work before the game. then he was the hitting star of the game. he was the one yankee that day who impressed me.

    i think with time he’ll be a very good mlb player for the yankees. not necessarily a star but solid major leaguer.

  60. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    when will the rain stop?

  61. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    one thing about the 189 yanks will have to get younger

  62. joeman September 2nd, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:56 pm
    when will the rain stop
    ——————————————
    about 1.5 hrs

  63. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    eff the 189

    why even play into that BS

    it’s a stupid effing plan .

  64. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Enjoy the show, mick. Jones Beach isn’t a bad place to see one.. love that it’s right on the water. It’s just a pain in the ass to get to sometimes.

    randy – We could use a solid major leaguer back there.. I hope we get to see a bit of Murphy this month.

  65. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    you cant stop the 189 only contain it

  66. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    @RiverAveBlues

    Cafardo: Rumblings that Cashman may be “a little tired” of Yankees http://rab.me/1czb3p6

  67. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    You guys know what actually happened here though, right? Mother nature saw that Wells was about to come up and was just like, ‘how about we don’t?’ and made it rain.

  68. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Keep dreaming about seeing Murphy much this September, unless we fall out of contention or we have a couple of laughers and he gets the chance to play in the late innings… Maybe a pinch at bat here and there.

  69. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:58 pm
    one thing about the 189 yanks will have to get younger

    ————————

    Probably is they will probably be worse.

  70. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    I saw Murphy warm up Andy yesterday…

  71. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    AAO-Are you jerkface?

  72. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Enjoy the show, mick. Jones Beach isn’t a bad place to see one.. love that it’s right on the water. It’s just a pain in the ass to get to sometimes.
    =============================
    Just get on the Belt.

  73. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    anybody seen luis around lately?

  74. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    where are your seats Shame?

  75. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    no succinct , quick answer from AAo, my theory could be correct.

  76. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    6 in a row for me, make it #7.

  77. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Nova – CC – Kuroda – Pettitte and pray for rain.

    It WORKED!

  78. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    DiceK = well and truly done. Freeman having his way.

  79. jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    one thing about the 189 yanks will have to get younger

    ————————

    Probably is they will probably be worse.

    ========================================

    There were multiple reports that Hal had a meeting with Cashman, scouts and minor league staff to bemoan the lack of talent ready to come up next year. The way I read that is that someone (probably Cashman) is going to ‘get the boot’ in the offseason so that Steinbrenner can blame someone else for the next few years’ poor results.

  80. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    ” I hope we get to see a bit of Murphy this month.”

    shame-

    if we do it means the yankees are probably out of it when he plays.

    i just have a hinch about him.

    looks and acts like a yankee.

  81. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    “AAO-Are you jerkface?”

    jerkface is gone.

    as he would say, he has nothing else to learn here.

  82. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    all the more reason to think AAO is jerkface.

  83. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    Is JF gone for real?

  84. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Linz story on now.
    Yogi: Shove that harmonica.
    Linz: What did he say?
    Mantle: He said Play it Louder.

    Great times.

  85. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    One thing is sure…. Odds is his own man, Jerkface is another… So please, stop the conspiracy theory

  86. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    awwww…the Presidente is ignoring me, I’m hurt….

  87. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    where are your seats Shame?

    ————

    I dunno what you mean…?

    randy – I’m having a hard time seeing this team coming back without a lot of help… I’d love to get a look at Murphy. I hope his performance yesterday earned Betances more meaningful innings.

  88. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    make that ex-presidente….randy has dethroned him.

  89. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Pat M. said Amaro was asking the Yankees to pay for all of Lee’s contract plus give up Nunez + Campos + Mesa + 2 other pieces. Combine that rumor with the one where the Yankees were said to be shopping JR Murphy right around the time Cliff Lee rumors were swirling and I think you have the makings of a possible deal at the winter meetings. Since Mesa is gone I would think an OF prospect would be added to account for the other missing piece.

    Nunez + Campos + Heathcott + Murphy for Lee.

  90. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    luis-

    i think smart young guys like lgy and jerkface can find other baseball blogs that are more worth their time.

    i think this one has fallen below their interest level.
    just speculation.

  91. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    I dunno what you mean…?
    ====================
    i guess they are in your living room.

  92. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    I hope JF is still around. Why would he post as an alias? Was he attacked by a troll?

  93. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    shame -

    the flip side of the yankees being eliminated early would be seeing some of the young players like murphy get some playing time.

    for some reason the yankees have gone in a new funk.

    maybe alex has to flip off hal again, or sue someone in management :)

  94. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Josh Norris ?@jnorris427 10m
    Syndergaard vs. Bryan Mitchell in Game 1 of the ELDS
    _______
    Great matchup!

  95. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    charlestonchew September 2nd, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Phil’s fastball has a lot of movement today.

    _______

    Normally it has a ton of movement… into the upper deck.

  96. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Buster – Why would anyone take all of Lee’s contract and give up a decent package? If Amaro is serious about getting someone else to take Lee’s deal, he’ll have to hold onto him for another year or two …and it’ll probably still be tough to find suitors.

  97. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    AAO is jerkface.
    His m.o. is a quick , short retort and he is speechless.

  98. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    mick,

    i wasn´t ignoring you… but your post seemed a little silly to answer to in all honesty… Asking if anybody had seen me after i posted a comment? catch my drift?

  99. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Big doings in East Nowhere tonight. Our 4th of July was flooded out, so the moved the fireworks show to Labor Day, down on the town square, and for the first time in my memory, there will be two restaurants open on a Monday night. One of them is kind of a honky-tonk roadhouse with outdoor tables. We’ll be taking our stations about quarter past six. They even make fairly presentable cheese steaks (except for the bread). Even use real (?) Cheezwiz!

  100. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    luis, i guess you missed my “drift.”
    your personality has been vacuous.
    were you humiliated by someone here?

  101. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Shame,

    I wouldn’t take all of Lee’s contract and I don’t expect the Yankees to either. If any package offered is comparable to the one I modified based on Pat M.’s report and other rumors, I’d want the Phillies to eat 15-20 million of Lee’s remaining salary.

  102. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Lee has 3 years remaining on his deal if you factor the huge mutual option based on 200 IP’s

  103. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    They better get this game going soon..

    @eboland11 Good news. chance of rain goes down to 5 % at 3 p.m….then back to 60 % at 4. #nongoodnews

  104. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Randy,

    The blog loses when those type of posters leave the place… I don´t blame them in all honesty. This place is getting harder and harder to be around. Hopefully, it makes a turn for the better. Probably during the winter when things quiet down and in my opinion more thoughtful debate takes place. it will be interesting how the Yankees FO handle the winter. it would tell us how long the down period will be IMO

  105. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Mike Ashmore@mashmore98 7m
    Rotations line up as such. BNG: Syndergaard, Gorski, Verrett, TBA, TBA. TRE: Mitchell, O’Brien, Greene, Turley, Allen.
    ______
    luis, has your milb-tv feed improved at all? Or are you still unable to view games?

  106. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Bret – I thought he had 4 years left, so my bad. But I think if they want to move him, they can probably find a better package. He’d probably make a better mid season acquisition for both sides.. the Phillies could probably flip him for more at that point to someone contending.

  107. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    The down period?
    Talk about glass half empty…

  108. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Shame—wings getting cold???

  109. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Josh Norris ?@jnorris427 10m
    Syndergaard vs. Bryan Mitchell in Game 1 of the ELDS
    _______
    Great matchup!
    ///

    Looking forward to that one, too. jmills won’t care anymore, but Syndergaard was bumping 100 mph in some of his starts last year. Syndergaard, Wheeler and Harvey – looks like the Mets have some deep young pitching.

    As for Mitchell, I watched the first two innings of his really good last start and he showed no command issues I’d heard about, at least not in that one.

  110. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    LGY and Jerkface have knowledge but they’re not exactly the most friendly characters in the joint. And I don’t equate disagreements to antisocial behavior. They both had difficulty relating to fans and discussing baseball in a way that didn’t make them sound snobby or pretentious.

    Pruf struggles with this as well.

  111. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    mick,

    i don´t want to get in to that… I am not posting as much as I used to and I am trying to avoid game threads if I can… But no, I haven´t been humiliated… to be honest, that´s very hard to do…

  112. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Shame,

    I don’t think they could easily find a better package because the Yankees are one of only a handful of teams that could take on a significant amount of his salary in the first place. Texas and LAD would be in the running of course. I think Nunez + Campos + Heathcott + Murphy is pretty solid.

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Randy,

    The blog loses when those type of posters leave the place…
    ///

    primo,

    I’m particularly disappointed in having apparently lost Rich in NJ (hope he’s ok), Tar (who is in self-imposed exile), and GLove (who is either disgusted or busy or both).

    Good to see you though :D

  114. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    well luis, since you lost your job as el presidente, you have not been the same.

  115. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    luis, has your milb-tv feed improved at all? Or are you still unable to view games?

    =======================================

    Nope… Things here get worse, not better… :( I am even having reception troubles with the cell phone… To the point that we are considering get satellital phones

  116. Duh Innings II September 2nd, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Some Boston Globe writer has reported Cashman is tired of (being the general manager of) the Yankees.

    Really? Well guess what, Cashman? I and many others are tired of you, tired that you have yet to develop another star everyday player who is still a Yankee besides Cano who may sign elsewhere after this season if the money and years are right enough. Robertson is the only above average reliever Cashman has developed and he’ll be a free agent after next season. Cashman has never developed an above average starting pitcher besides Chien Mien Wang who had only two great full seasons 2006-07 (sandwiched around two great half-seasons for three great full seasons worth of baseball which ended five years ago.) He has never developed a bench player worth anything. He did an awful job with trades this season outside of the no-brainer Soriano trade where the Cubs basically handed the Yanks Soriano and he even screwed that up because he gave up too good a prospect for Soriano who NO ONE ELSE WANTED thus the Cubs had zero leverage.

  117. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    “They both had difficulty relating to fans and discussing baseball in a way that didn’t make them sound snobby or pretentious.”

    brett-

    they were both smart young statistically inclined yankee fans.

    the blog was better when they were regulars.

  118. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Shame,

    I don’t think they could easily find a better package because the Yankees are one of only a handful of teams that could take on a significant amount of his salary in the first place.

    ————–

    Can they? I don’t know that I see where they could fit Lee’s salary.

    Every team is going to get an infusion of $20+ million in 2014 and beyond, as well… it might not just be the usual suspects that can spend that type of cash.

  119. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    Pruf, I am grateful that matchup is in Game 1, the day before the Red Sox come in. Good timing. Then Nova pitches vs. Peavy, assuming the order isn’t tweaked on RS side.

    Trenton rained out today gives them an extra day to get home from Portland and rest up. Although I would have liked Austin to continue to get AB’s. I didn’t hear an update on Mason, but he hopefully he will be in game shape for Wed.

  120. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    the blog was better when they were regulars.

    ————–

    Yep.

  121. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    Shame, thanks for linking story on Cashman.

    Like I’ve said, I won’t rejoice that Cashman leaves if Eppler is his replacement, and that’s what I expect, so more of the same.

  122. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Shame,

    It depends on how they structured the money. If the Phillies have to eat money to move Lee in order to land a solid package, the target year for the bulk of it would have to be 2014 obviously.

  123. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    I’d much rather spend $15 million annually on something other than Lee… we have no C or 3B for next season.

  124. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    I’m particularly disappointed in having apparently lost Rich in NJ (hope he’s ok), Tar (who is in self-imposed exile), and GLove (who is either disgusted or busy or both).

    Three excellent, fair-minded posters. As someone said the other day (it may well have been you Pruf), I particularly enjoyed G. Love’s post-game “State of the Union” address. He had/has an eloquent way of summing things up.

  125. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Randy,

    The blog loses when those type of posters leave the place…
    ///

    primo,

    I’m particularly disappointed in having apparently lost Rich in NJ (hope he’s ok), Tar (who is in self-imposed exile), and GLove (who is either disgusted or busy or both).

    Good to see you though

    =============================

    Hey JAP!

    likewise!… Yes, it is sad how a lot of regulars have left the building… Hopefully they come back in the winter…

  126. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    j.al. pru-

    they could replace cashman with brett the hit man and i’d consider that an upgrade.

    any change will be welcome.

    i agree that eppler probably is too in house. i don’t know much about him at all.

    i’s like to see someone outside come in.

  127. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    JAP – I thought it was interesting.. I’d looooove to read a book by Cash lol.

    Bret – I just don’t know why taking on that kind of salary for 3 years is a good idea. Especially when you’re giving up young prospects on top of that..?

  128. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    luis, too bad. I feel for you. FYI, Flores has been killing it lately. Again showing that end of season power he flashed in stretch drive into playoffs last season.

  129. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    I think Kelley needs a rest…..his fastball velocity is down

  130. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Randy,

    I did not and do not discount their knowledge.

    I enjoy such knowledge. I welcome it.

    It was the delivery that was unpleasant, the method of sharing that knowledge, the tone, the obsession with being right, the arrogance, the inability to have casual conversation about baseball, the rigid personality type, the taking of a game so seriously, the intolerance for offbeat comments or silliness, the lack of introspection, the unwillingness to acknowledge error or to identify with an alternative position.

    To name a few…

  131. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    got to go guys… later

    Randy,

    You made me smile… Brett would certainly try to do things to improve the team, as crazy as some of his move sound from time to time

    later i hope

  132. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    I think a lot of people have cut back in posting. I know I have. It’s just not worth dealing with the extracurriculars that have nothing to do with Yankee baseball.

  133. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    I didn’t hear an update on Mason, but he hopefully he will be in game shape for Wed.
    //

    It would suck to miss him. That day in Brooklyn feels like ages ago. Mitchell was blazing good in that first outing. I can see why everyone’s high on him and also on that curveball. Still have to watch the rest of that game, but he came into the first with reliever-like adrenaline and threw seven or eight straight fastballs downhill and around 95 – I think he faced like 3 straight lefties and they just couldn’t hit him. Then he finally started dropping curves to finish guys. Lights out from Mitchell.

  134. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    bret-

    the problem you have is not acknowledging that they both know more than you do.

    you don’t handle people that know more than you do well.

  135. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    YF,

    I know… I have been following RAB and have seen his latest stats… it always baffled me why he is not crushing Double A pitching… He can hit the breaking ball and he crushes FB´s

  136. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Bret – I just don’t know why taking on that kind of salary for 3 years is a good idea. Especially when you’re giving up young prospects on top of that..?

    ________

    I would prefer Headley, Choo, McCann etc. but if I had to guess why Cashman and Amaro were ever in discussions in the first place I would point to 2 reasons why perhaps.

    1) The Yankees made a huge offer to Lee as a free agent. Was this different money? No it was stingy Hal’s same money. Was it a different front office? Nope. Same one with Cashman ring leader of the do-nothings.

    2) CC – Lee atop the rotation, which was the initial plan before “patience” came along, and then Pineda followed.

    That’s why.

    I think if the Viagra has not worn off yet.

  137. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    yankeefeminista-

    yes the lack of controlling the crazies by lohud has added a risk to posting here.

    not what you want on a baseball blog.

  138. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    i agree that eppler probably is too in house. i don’t know much about him at all.

    i’s like to see someone outside come in.
    ///

    Randy, Eppler is the prime mover behind Joba to the Pen for Life, and Cashman said “I don’t make a move without Billy”, who is their ML top scout as well.

    I’ve seen interviews with the guy; I know he’s supposed to be one of the “bright young baseball mind”s, so I’m sure he has had great philosophical input on who exits and enters the organization at the ML level and what should be most prioritized, like pitch framing…..

  139. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    Randy and YF,

    Yes…. By the way Randy… nice effort the other day… I think everybody should listen to what you proposed… later for real now guys

  140. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Randy,

    You’re wrong. I enjoyed CB, SJ44 and I still enjoy Pat M. or Blake or G. Love.

    I can acknowledge LGY and Jerkface know more than me about statistics or accounting for example, but they’re no better judge of talent. Both flipped out when I first called Hughes a 5th starter. That’s one example.

    Their problem was they thought they knew everything about everything. There was no humility. They never talked baseball casually or told stories like you do between breaks in the action. They were ultra serious and antisocial towards not just me but other posters.

    And even when someone knows more than me I’m still going to push them to think outside of their line of thinking. That’s just my personality.

  141. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Mick stop trying to stir things up. I hope we will see people like LGY and JF back here. I seriously doubt that AAO is JF. JF would have no trouble posting here under his name and wouldn’t be bothered by someone of your ilk. Why would you ever ask someone if they were humiliated on a blog? Stupid question.

  142. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    luis-

    what was that i proposed ?

    refresh my memory :)

  143. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Flores has been killing it lately. Again showing that end of season power he flashed in stretch drive into playoffs last season.
    ///

    He has been red hot! He looked great even in the Alex game, where he got on base for him by drawing BBs against that very tough LH (Biddle). I saw he homered yesterday or whenever that was. Flores I think hit that wall earlier but now is back on his pitch. He was passing it up, second guessing himself, not hitting for any sort of slug.

  144. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Mick stop trying to stir things up.
    ====================
    hahahaha…who are you anyway?

  145. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    See ya, primo. :D

  146. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    I seriously doubt that AAO is JF.
    =================
    But you’re not sure…hmmmm.

  147. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Luis, Flores started very strong this season, and always had very solid AB’s when I saw him hit. I think it just is a long season, and he tired. However, now he is refocused and getting a second wind. He doesn’t give away ABs. Have a good evening.

  148. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Why would you ever ask someone if they were humiliated on a blog?
    ============================
    Why not? Are there limits?

  149. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Bret – I’m sure they had their reasons for having the discussion but it sounds like the Phillies not wanting to throw in any cash was a deal breaker.. I dunno that it tells us anything about the FO we don’t already know.

    Sure, if you could give up some mid level prospects and Nunez for Lee AND have them pay for a lot of his deal, you do it. But I can’t imagine they were close. Would like to get Pat M’s take, as I missed it earlier. This sounds like it was only ever discussed on the periphery.

  150. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    JAP – I thought it was interesting.. I’d looooove to read a book by Cash lol.
    ///

    LOL I think I’ve heard quite enough.

  151. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    Flores has been killing it lately. Again showing that end of season power he flashed in stretch drive into playoffs last season.
    ///

    He has been red hot! He looked great even in the Alex game, where he got on base for him by drawing BBs against that very tough LH (Biddle). I saw he homered yesterday or whenever that was. Flores I think hit that wall earlier but now is back on his pitch. He was passing it up, second guessing himself, not hitting for any sort of slug.

    ———-
    I still think Flores is a real sleeper….overlooked because of a lack of power numbers…..I think he will develop more power as he matures

  152. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Last update we got from Chad was an hour ago… anyone there today? Still pouring?

  153. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    This was the last update from the Yankees Weather Twitter account..

    @YankeesWeather Today’s game is currently scheduled to start on time at approximately 1:05pm.

    :D

  154. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Mick asking someone if they were humiliated is RUDE! Luis is a good guy. So for that matter are AAO, JF and LGY as well as Pruf and the others. We need those posters. Maybe you don’t and Bret doesn’t but the blog does. I’m my self. Who are you?

  155. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Hey Shame, YF, Luis and Pruf.

  156. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    I enjoyed all of JF’s posts. But I’m an engineer so I’m used to his type of personality

  157. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    The tarp is still on the field

  158. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Gonna be a loooong delay

  159. jacksquat September 2nd, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    I guess Hughes can’t pitch again after such a long delay, too bad…

  160. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    The tarp is still on the field

    ————-

    It’s so weird.. it hasn’t been raining in north Jersey for a while..

  161. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    I am myself too but who are you ?
    You don’t have much presence here certainly.
    Luis personality has been subdued for some reason, just inquiring.
    Nothing wrong with that, unless you are threatened by that…

  162. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Shame,

    The way Pat M. described Amaro’s talks with Cashman were such that I imagine they were preliminary and could easily be revisited at the Winter Meetings – never sensed a deadline deal that came close but fell completely apart over money, more like a long range negotiation involving big dollars and lots of moving pieces.

    I imagine the Viagra has not worn off yet and they still want to go with CC – Lee as their 1-2 atop the rotation, thinking it’s maybe easier to follow the Randy Johnson-Curt Schilling theory of WS success than it is to revamp an entire offense.

  163. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    I’m actually on the phone with my dad right now and he tells me it’s raining… like 15 miles away.. weird. I must be water proof.

  164. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Three excellent, fair-minded posters. As someone said the other day (it may well have been you Pruf), I particularly enjoyed G. Love’s post-game “State of the Union” address. He had/has an eloquent way of summing things up.
    ///

    bruceb, yeah that was me. I really dig those because you can still feel the pulse of his having been at the Stadium, because of the clarity of the thoughts (whether one agrees or disagrees) that haven’t been sifted over and over, but come with the rawness/sharpness of the live game, and because of the emotional honesty in those posts that just sort of pour out of him.

  165. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    The tarp is still on the field

    ————-

    It’s so weird.. it hasn’t been raining in north Jersey for a while..
    ———-
    Only rained a bit here in Manhattan

  166. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    GregD, he flashed some power late last season, and is doing it again. The question is if he flashes enough for a COF. He is kind of a tweener; doesn’t have the traditional CF D, so plays better as a corner, but doesn’t have the corner pop. Still love his bat. Trenton park factor doesn’t help. But he’s hitting better at home, and his August OPS jumped more than .200. But if Yanks are looking for a hairy monster there, Flores may not be their man. Although hitting LH in NYS won’t hurt.

  167. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    “And even when someone knows more than me I’m still going to push them to think outside of their line of thinking.”

    bret-

    what i liked about both of them is that they knew statistical stuff i didn’t know. jerkface and i obviously butted heads over old school vs new school , but he was knowledgeable about his side of things.

    as far as pushing someone it’s kind of hard to do when they aren’t here.

  168. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    I imagine the Viagra has not worn off yet and they still want to go with CC – Lee as their 1-2 atop the rotation, thinking it’s maybe easier to follow the Randy Johnson-Curt Schilling theory of WS success than it is to revamp an entire offense.
    =====================
    Despite what resident experts say, it is easier to piece together an offense than a pitching staff, as we have witnessed this season.

  169. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    @Joelsherman1

    It looks like Huff is warming in #Yankees pen. Game expected to resume at 3:25.. #chisox

  170. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    I cleared my sched from 1-5:30 just for this game. I have an appt. from 5:30-7:30. :(

  171. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    comet September 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Hey Shame, YF, Luis and Pruf.
    ///

    Hey Comet, exciting times with the team on the high wire. :D How’s the Great White North?

  172. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    3:25 start.

  173. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    I still don’t think Lee helps the team as much as a good position player would… but I’m sort of resigned to believing this team will be very similar in structure next year.

  174. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Looks like those of us wanted see what Huff would do in place of Hughes will get their chance.

    ;)

  175. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Big game for Huff.
    Possibly a Boston start on the line.

  176. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Hey comet. Good to see you, and I second your last couplf of posts. Embrace difference; stop trolling regular posters here. (yawn). There’s plenty of space for everyone.

  177. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    *couple

  178. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:04 pm
    GregD, he flashed some power late last season, and is doing it again. The question is if he flashes enough for a COF. He is kind of a tweener; doesn’t have the traditional CF D, so plays better as a corner, but doesn’t have the corner pop. Still love his bat. Trenton park factor doesn’t help. But he’s hitting better at home, and his August OPS jumped more than .200. But if Yanks are looking for a hairy monster there, Flores may not be their man. Although hitting LH in NYS won’t hurt.
    ————
    Well he’s still young and might get more power…..Lets hope so

  179. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    We have no need for Cliff Lee IMO.

    We are not short on Pitching we are short on hitting.

  180. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    comet – Looks like we won’t see Hughes anymore. Can’t wait to see how Girardi navigates the pen today. At least we know Joba is spent..

  181. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Great job Phil. A complete shutout. Woohoo!

  182. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Huff pitched yesterday…..how long can he go today?

  183. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Mick,

    Simple mathematics.

    It requires 9 players to field an offense, 5 starters to fill a rotation. In the playoffs if you have a 1-2 off CC – Lee you can easily command 4 out of 7 games as each of those 2 starters has a significant influence on the outcome. So when you look to invest your tight budget, you concentrate money into those 4 games and 2 starting pitchers. The Giants won a WS with patchwork hitting. The D-Backs did as well. Sure, you can win with offense like the Cardinals but the Yankees offense is too many moves away from accomplishing that feat based on the offense model. They’re much closer to the pitching model of WS success. It requires one move, one big negotiation. They can bring back Granderson here or make another move like the Soriano one. Wells did not work out. Overbay, not so much either. But it’s possible to fill patches mid season with hitters, not so much with star pitchers.

    I think we’re in for a present under the Christmas Lee

  184. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Shame-

    Should be absolutely no problem.

    We have plenty of arms on hand.

  185. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    We are not short on Pitching we are short on hitting.

    —————–

    It’s starting to feel like we’re short on everything.. I hope they let Pineda pitch in the fall league to build up his innings. Right now Nova, Warren and Phelps might need to round out our back end.

  186. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Not much of a difference between this blog and Feinsand’s Daily News blog, which I abandoned 3 years ago; the funny thing is many of the posters there raved about the Lohud blog and how the level of discourse here was much better than that found on “Blogging the Bombers.”
    I visited this cite a few times during that period, but never participated to the extent I did on the DN blog.
    However, I must admit the posting during Saturday’s game was cordial and there was a very noticeable lack of insulting or derogatory comments.

  187. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    ———-
    I still think Flores is a real sleeper….overlooked because of a lack of power numbers…..I think he will develop more power as he matures
    ///

    GregD, Agree that more power will come. He’s got that Cano like swing and like YF said, he flashed some power last fall. I saw two HRs to dead center that had real loft and also some long flyouts to the same spot, in Trenton and in Reading during Eastern League playoffs. He can drive the ball.

    Have you made it out to Trenton? I know you were thinking about taking the train.

  188. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Great job Phil. A complete shutout. Woohoo!

    ——————

    Silver linings!!

  189. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    things are good here Pruf. Long time until winter. Was in touch with an internet pal in Alaska and they’ve had their first frost a week ago. WOW!

    Yes every game is hyper important. Yesterday’s loss still rankles!

    Good to see you here MTU.

  190. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Buster-

    This is one time I hope you are completely wrong.

    Cliff Lee is a bad fit for the Yankees.

  191. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    JAP—- I never made it to Trenton……..have to wait til next year on that…..maybe I can drive up to SWB next year to see Flores….

  192. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    People growing taller:

    http://news.yahoo.com/bigger-h.....33962.html

  193. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Greetings Comet.

    Hope all is well.

    :)

  194. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    JimK

    Well said. This place is fine. A few discordants , who are on the pompous side, have a way of upsetting this place, otherwise it has improved without them.

  195. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    MTU agree Lee is too old now. Can’t see giving up what we have in the way of youth for an old pitcher when we are struggling as it is.

  196. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    GregD, I think Flores will, but he is also a hit for average guy, which actually makes him more versatile. So, that is why I have always likened him to an Abreu type but with a little less pop and speed (but he has decent speed and is smart on the base paths).

  197. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:16 pm
    GregD, I think Flores will, but he is also a hit for average guy, which actually makes him more versatile. So, that is why I have always likened him to an Abreu type but with a little less pop and speed (but he has decent speed and is smart on the base paths.

    ————–
    He also is patient and takes his walks

  198. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    GregD, playoff baseball in Trenton. It should be a hard fought series; I assume that Binghamton will be favored, and they have home field, but I expect Trenton to give them all they can handle.

  199. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    It’s starting to feel like we’re short on everything.. I hope they let Pineda pitch in the fall league to build up his innings. Right now Nova, Warren and Phelps might need to round out our back end.
    ////

    Nova is the new ace of the staff, Shame. A shift has taken place. C, and Kuroda, if he’s back, will be the 2 and 3 guys I used to like Warren more than I do now – I think Phelps is the better pitcher. Pineda will have to be built up again, he’s lost a lot of time.

    Had they stuck with Betances, he’d have been in perfect poise to get his feet wet, emergency starting. Having Nova and Betances in next year’s rotation would have been sick! My hope is they let it sink in that he is repeating his delivery well enough to get back into the starter game and that they resign him and build him back up. That would give us a lethal young, deep group of starters. I’d say Jo-Ram had he not gotten hurt.

  200. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    What’s with all the lee talk? Yanks have tried to bring him in like 2-3 other times before and it never happened. That ship has sailed.

    He obviously never wanted to come here when he had the chance to as a free agent.

  201. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    MTU,

    I want to be wrong as well. I too miss the dynasty lineups of the late 90′s. I want them to begin to construct a sustainable attack on offense to go with all their great young pitching.

    However, I think the prospects on offense need more time. Even their top ones have yet to become major impacts on their respective teams. It could take many years to build that way again. Look at how far away the OF trio is: Williams, Heathcott, Flores and Sanchez. I really feel like maybe the Yankees want to go with this same old model one more year. They are buying time.

    Maybe we get our wish at the start of 2015 – maybe 2014 is too early. Maybe McCann, Headley and Choo are not meant to be.

  202. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    GregD, absolutely. Walks around 13%. It is another reason I like the Abreu comp.

  203. jacksquat September 2nd, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm
    We are not short on Pitching we are short on hitting.

    —————–

    It’s starting to feel like we’re short on everything.. I hope they let Pineda pitch in the fall league to build up his innings. Right now Nova, Warren and Phelps might need to round out our back end.

    Right now Nova looks like the Ace, the only Ace at the moment (with all due respect to Kuroda, he’s in a funk).

  204. Shame Spencer September 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    @PeteAbe

    Iglesias could turn out to be Omar Vizquel with a better glove. Which seems ridiculous to say. But he’s that good.

    ——————

    Get that HOF plaque ready.

  205. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Comet-

    I don’t want any part of Cliff Lee.

  206. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Also Manny B. will be back in the mix in a year. Arm will be stronger than ever. Knock on wood.

  207. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    JAP—-I’d say Jo-Ram had he not gotten hurt.

    ———–
    What happened to him??

  208. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    “This place is fine. A few discordants , who are on the pompous side, have a way of upsetting this place, otherwise it has improved without them.”

    mick-

    this place was good when you were a low level poster who the better posters ignored. the fact you feel comfortable here and hold court a good portion of the time now tells how low it’s gotten.

    people won’t argue with you. they ‘ll just leave for more intelligent baseball discussions.

  209. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    @PeteAbe

    Iglesias could turn out to be Omar Vizquel with a better glove. Which seems ridiculous to say. But he’s that good.

    ——————

    Get that HOF plaque ready.
    __
    Fake Pete has that covered. ;)

  210. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Yankees are taking the field.

  211. Jesus Bustero September 2nd, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Randy,

    Mick has intuition. Torre had it too. Sometimes you go with your gut and how you read a player or a situation. You of all people should know that.

    The stat heads were incapable of doing that and antisocial towards the posters like Mick who can.

  212. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Buster-

    Perhaps and perhaps not ?

    We’ll see how they play it.

    I think the other way is a better way to go.

    Begin a retool next season and continue it in 2015.

    The Yankees will have more money available than I think most think.

    ;)

  213. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    iglesias looks like a shortstop.

    the kid can field.

    i’ve just seen him play in one game in person but he does look good.

  214. I Am Winning September 2nd, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    You can’t count on minors leaguers that are that far out. You can’t build a team around minor leaguers you think are going to succeed. Hughes and Joba were suppose to be our top starters for the next decade, but look at how it turned out. The Marlins can do that, but the Yankees have the funds to buy big time players and plug in minor leaguers like they did with Wang and Cano. The Yankees issue is notoriously giving out too many years on a contract. It’s certainly silly to assume all three will make up our outfield in 2015. I definitely agree that our offensive minor leaguers do need more time. As they go up the system, you will see who progresses and who stays back. We have a lot of good guys down low, but who knows where they will be by the end of next season.

  215. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    See you all later.

  216. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Shame—-you can eat now…. :)

  217. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Iglesias can surely field, but with the bat he has to be one of the luckiest hitters I’ve seen. His BABIP must be a crazy number.

  218. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    jlyanks, his BABIP is .374, so yeah…

  219. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Another start where Hughes couldn’t go 5.

  220. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    JAP—-I’d say Jo-Ram had he not gotten hurt.

    ———–
    What happened to him??
    ///

    I wish I knew! I have asked Chad and also Teale, both of whom said they’d look into it.

  221. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    It’s nice to see Almonte (double) getting a chance in Seattle.

  222. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Yankees like to keep injuries (especially of the arm nature) close to the vest.

  223. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Have to wonder if Ichiro is 100%. If so he should be hitting for Wells. Someone needs to ask Girardi whats up…It doesn’t make any sense.

  224. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    id, not exactly “couldn’t…”

  225. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Yankeefem – saw that Honest Abe is getting a chance. Good for him!

  226. mnmboys September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Hard line drive by wells which pretty much means Girardi will start him again tomorrow.

  227. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    randy, yes, Iglesias can certainly field.

  228. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    JAP—-you think they are just keeping his innings down?

  229. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    “Another start where Hughes couldn’t go 5.”

    :)

    i like hughes as a pitcher.

    i hope he goes to somewhere he gets matched up with the right coaching .
    he’s still a young guy.

  230. jacksquat September 2nd, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Don’t get on Hughes, it’s the first good start he’s had in a while.

  231. mnmboys September 2nd, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Girardi will have Stew back in there tomorrow.

  232. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Soriano really misplayed that ball. It was a fly ball to LF.

  233. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    JAP—-you think they are just keeping his innings down?
    ///

    I’m sorry to say I don’t think so. I don’t know what’s up, but it’s like trying to get a Trappist monk to talk trying to find out what’s wrong with him. He hasn’t pitched since June, and he was having trouble, BB’ing people. Wonder if his lack of command was due to some kind of injury. Have no idea and no one wants to talk.

  234. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    GregD, check that, Jo-Ram hasn’t pitched since late July.

  235. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm
    id, not exactly “couldn’t…”

    ——

    I know I was joking. But people counted the rain shortened start against KC as one of those he couldn’t go 5.

  236. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    How long will they go with Huff???

  237. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Brett Gardner is 1st Yankee with 30+ doubles and 8+ triples as a CF in a season since Mickey Rivers in 1976.

  238. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Atta boy, Alex!!!

  239. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    AL!! Score him now.

  240. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Nice oppo hit

  241. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Bomb here Grandy! Cmon

  242. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Atta boy, Alex!!!
    UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    AL!! Score him now.
    igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Nice oppo hit
    ///

    :D :D :D

  243. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    C’mon Reynolds!!!!

  244. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Its nice having a lineup that is circular enough so grandy can take the walk and keep the line moving

  245. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Can we please put this game to bed right here and now.

  246. J. Alfred Prufrock September 2nd, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Lettuce!!!

  247. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Thank you, Austin.

  248. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    I think Romine just earned himself some more starts

  249. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Romine showing why he should be playing everyday!

  250. Benny Blanco September 2nd, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    romine…

  251. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Lets bury these bums!!!!!

  252. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    He just needs to play more. End of story.

  253. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    #circularlineup #mostly

  254. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Gardner’s a Force!!

  255. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    GGBG!!!

  256. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    Gardner!!!!!!

  257. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    The Chisox are done.

  258. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Great, they finally give Hughes run support and he’s not even in the game. Does this count as run support for his start? Not sure how they work that out.

  259. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    This is what they should of done to the white sox in Chicago.

  260. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Axle-grease for Axelrod please. He’s becoming unhinged! Cano homer coming up.

  261. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Great, they finally give Hughes run support and he’s not even in the game.

    Might have been behind if Hughes had stayed in. :)

  262. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Ventura lettin Axelrod take one for the team?

  263. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Rain delay was a blessing for us, because Quintina isn’t a bad pitcher either.

  264. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Jeter should sit the rest of the day. He has had a good game, but doesn’t look right running the bases to me. Give him as much rest as possible.

  265. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Wow thet are bad

  266. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Official scorer called that no play. lol. That’s funny. How about an error.

  267. Benny Blanco September 2nd, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    maybe we will get a Jr Murphy sighting.

  268. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Six runs in this inning and the only out is Cano. What a difference a month makes.

  269. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:25 pm
    Official scorer called that no play. lol. That’s funny. How about an error.

    —————
    How is that not an error?

  270. hardwired7 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    May this half-inning never end…and, at this rate, it might not.

  271. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    GregD – They just changed it to an error. Which it should have been. And look now another error.

  272. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    They couldn’t play like this in Chicago?

  273. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    How did we get swept by this team in Chicago? The white sox are awful.

  274. blake September 2nd, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Bad news ChiSox……if they hadnt got swept by these guys a few weeks ago they’d be right there I’m the WC.

  275. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    The White Sox are godawful. How the hell did the Yankees lose any games to this team, let alone get swept? Wow.

  276. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Hawk says “This is beyond the point of cursing” :lol:

  277. blake September 2nd, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Id be throwing a fit if I was Ventura man….these guys suck

  278. blake September 2nd, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    UnKnown says:
    September 2, 2013 at 4:33 pm
    Hawk says “This is beyond the point of cursing”

    Lol hawk likely has anyway

  279. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    This is just one game though, Chris Sales will make them a lot Better tomorrow

  280. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    9-0 in the fourth inning is not necessarily over :)

  281. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 4:37 pm
    9-0 in the fourth inning is not necessarily over
    ——–
    Is Joba warming up? :)

  282. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    “Is Joba warming up? ”

    i think i see someone bouncing on the trampoline in the bullpen.

  283. jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    This is just one game though, Chris Sales will make them a lot Better tomorrow

    =========================================

    I’ll pray for another lonnnnnng rain delay after about 2 innings tomorrow.

  284. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    This is just one game though, Chris Sales will make them a lot Better tomorrow

    ——————-
    Maybe we can get a 2 hour rain delay after the first ining tomorrow too?

  285. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Well kuroda needs to get his act together and fix whatever his issues are now. Especially with sale going tomorrow.

  286. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:42 pm
    GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    This is just one game though, Chris Sales will make them a lot Better tomorrow

    =========================================

    I’ll pray for another lonnnnnng rain delay after about 2 innings tomorrow.
    ———-
    :)

  287. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    rm—- we will take whatever help we can get :)

  288. Locke September 2nd, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    I can’t remember a worse inning in professional baseball as long as I’ve been watching. After the dropped ball by the catcher it stopped being fun and started becoming sad. It reminded me of when I played Little League and kids would score on a single and three consecutive throwing errors. Poor White Sox fans.

  289. Locke September 2nd, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m VERY happy that we’ve got such a strong lead. I just feel bad for the White Sox players and fans who had to endure that inning.

  290. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Just as important. Can Huff’s audition here today get him a start?

  291. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    We had to endure a similar nightmare type inning yesterday. So least it was for the opposing team today.

  292. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Had to run out for an errand got home to catch the bottom of the 4th, when suddenly “its Xmas time in the city” popped into my head.

  293. hardwired7 September 2nd, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Baseball, it’s not as easy as Cano makes it look.

  294. blake September 2nd, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Is Joba warming up? ”

    Way too close to put Joba in

  295. meloo September 2nd, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    lol cano just showing off

  296. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    WTH Mlbtv decided to swich to O’s – Cle.

  297. exiledintampa September 2nd, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    *switch

  298. comet September 2nd, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    I think Joba will go some where and get a chance to start. Teams are desperate enough for pitching that someone will try to rework Joba. Hughes will similarly get a fresh start. I would not be surprised to see both of them be successful once they leave NYY.

  299. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    meloo September 2nd, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    lol cano just showing off

    —-
    No that one was showing off

  300. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Insane lol

  301. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    “Cano Knows”

  302. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    ESPn highlight!!!

  303. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    GregD

    S/B #1

  304. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    GregD

    S/B #1
    ———
    :)

  305. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    That was a great play by Cano, just great…

    They really bounced back after yesterday’s 7th inning debacle and could be only 3 down in the loss column after tonight.

    Even if the Rays win tonight, though, it’s far from over-a sweep against the bad news White Sox (who look like they may not win another game this year although they will) and winning the Red Sox series could make this really interesting for the rest of the season.

  306. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    Even though angels and mariners stink, west coast trips are difficult, especially this late in season. Rays won’t be getting easy wins.

  307. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    The chance of Chamberlain starting for anyone next year is a pipe dream-his stuff is no longer electric, his conditioning poor, his command even worse, and let’s not even talk about the mush that makes up his brain.

    There are tons of pitchers around who are younger, have better stuff, and actually work at their profession.

    Chamberlain will be a middle reliever who may, eventually, have a really good year or two for someone, it’s the nature of relief pitchers.

    But no one is going to make an investment in this guy as a starter, too much baggage, too many injuries, too little success doing what he was supposed to be doing for the Yankees and hasn’t done in a long time.

  308. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Looks like in today’s hit parade Granderson’s song is “Like a Virgin.”

  309. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    MG, I mostly agree with you about Chamberlain but he still has decent stuff; his biggest problem is his attitude and mush for brains.
    He really lost me with the Mo incident.

  310. meloo September 2nd, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    Wanted JR murphy to pinch hit for romine there with AAA reliever coming in. Realized Girardi is our manager though

  311. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    JimK—–chamberlains slider is terrible…..just a loopy pitch

  312. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Girardi should let Murphy get an at bat in this game.

    I would definitely have Huff available in 5 days when Hughes starts again. If Hughes struggles then pull him and put in Huff. He was very impressive today.

  313. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:20 pm
    MG, I mostly agree with you about Chamberlain but he still has decent stuff; his biggest problem is his attitude and mush for brains.
    He really lost me with the Mo incident.
    ——————-
    the Mo incident was the last straw for me also but you can’t be a starting pitcher and take strolls around the mound after every hitter, it’s almost like he needs a break to catch his breath.

    Pitching in the big leagues isn’t easy and starting takes its toll on the body, he just doesn’t care enough to be in good shape and it’s pretty obvious when you watch him pitch.

  314. Captain Clutch September 2nd, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    This kid is impressive. He might be able to help them in September against lefties.

  315. mnmboys September 2nd, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Yankees have to be the best farm system at developing middle relievers. Too bad that hasn’t translated to starters and position players.

  316. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    MG, Have to agree with you on that one too; almost every, if not all, successful pitchers work quickly.

  317. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    So far he looks like a LH specialist.

  318. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    Granted it was only 4 batters

  319. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Cabral looked pretty good today, if he can get lefties out that will be a big help down the stretch.

    Both righties hit line drives off him, he may not be someone who can get them out on a regular basis…

  320. meloo September 2nd, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    MURPHY

  321. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Wow the kid is going to get a chance to hit

  322. mnmboys September 2nd, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Kay keeps calling him a switch hitting catcher. Said it the other day too. He is a righty batter.

  323. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Lohud can rejoice, Murphy with an AB…

  324. cofuzz September 2nd, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    C’mon JR!

  325. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    How great is that!

  326. cofuzz September 2nd, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    1.000

  327. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Murphy is from (for me) nearby Bradenton, good for the local kid…

  328. yankeefeminista September 2nd, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    Atta boy, Murph. Many more to come.

  329. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    They call that a hit? My sound’s down.

  330. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    j r murphy

    major league player

    can’t ever take that away from him

    nice

  331. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    52 players used this year. A franchise record. Wow!

  332. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Yes it’s a hit

  333. The Genius Maker September 2nd, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    rm, just to back track to your comment in the previous string about Girardi. You made teh comment that in 20/20 hind site it is easy to 2nd guess. I am not sure if you read my blog but I stated live I would have brought in kelley to start the inning against the two righties as starting in the 5th inning Pettitte was losing the feel on his cutter. In hind site, i said the proper move (yes knowing that the proper move may not work) was to bring in Robertson right away, but I said what I would have done because that is what I was thinking at the time. The difference was that Robertosn was the next one in if the two righties got on and IMO Robertson would have and should have clearly been teh choice after he decided to let Pettitte pitch. No way Pettitte should have been able to allow two runners on base. Girardi messed up and his bullpen did not bail him out. I name my blog the genius maker because mariano makes his managers look like a genius because he almost always bailed them out.

  334. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Only Ichiro could foul a ball a foot outside and get hit in the face by it.

  335. meloo September 2nd, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    WHYY DOES CHRIS STEWART PLAY

  336. Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Shame, I am soooo bummed!! We were having dinner and tennis was on TV, and I missed Murphy’s hit!!!!

  337. JimK September 2nd, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Tomingeorgia; it was debatable, especially since it came out on the transfer, but it was hit well; it’s his 1st ML AB, I doubt that any OS would have scored it an error.

  338. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 5:46 pm
    Shame, I am soooo bummed!! We were having dinner and tennis was on TV, and I missed Murphy’s hit!!!!
    ———————–
    Doreen, it was a rope to left field, he absolutely crushed it.

    Not really, it was a hard hit ground ball to the left of the 3rd baseman that probably should have been an out but it all looks the same on the score card :)

  339. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    to the right of the 3rd baseman, sorry…

  340. meloo September 2nd, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    JR should DH tomorrow.

  341. jlyanks85 September 2nd, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    If Ichrio was in right yesterday, does he catch the JJ Hardy ball?

  342. tomingeorgia September 2nd, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    JimK,
    Thanks. I agree, it could be called either way, and I also agree no scorer was going to call it an error.

  343. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Genius Maker,
    I read your blog post but I disagree. There was no reason to believe Kelley and Logan couldn’t get anybody out. If Kelley and Logan can’t get out we have no chance. They are playing 17 games in a row. Without the benefit of hindsight I don’t think using Robertson that early is good bullpen management. I can’t fault Girardi for going to Kelley and Logan.

  344. austinmac September 2nd, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    I love a player getting their first hit. The family is thrilled. Can you imagine how wonderful that is? As Randy says, they can’t ever take that away.

  345. The Genius Maker September 2nd, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Grandy went back on the Hary play very well, he jumped OK but I believe it hit the heal of his glove. it couldhave been caught but he was moving fast and I believe hit the wall a split second before the ball hit his glove

  346. austinmac September 2nd, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Jly,

    I think Ichiro might well have caught it.

  347. The Genius Maker September 2nd, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    hardy

  348. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    Nice bounce back win……loved the kid Murphy getting a hit with his whole family there

  349. Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Austinmac, I so agree!! I love seeing JR’s family getting to soak in that moment!!

  350. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    austin mac-

    it’s a long process getting there.

    his family knows the all the games in all the places over the years.

    definitely a very special thing .

  351. The Genius Maker September 2nd, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    anything other than a sweep will be bad. win the series against the good teams and dominate the others

  352. Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    MG, thanks for the description of Murphy’s hit, BTW.

  353. The Genius Maker September 2nd, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    Hey Randy, I assume you agree that Stewart should be the backup right now? One thing that has surprised me is how well Romine has called the game. His hitting has been solid since an absolutely horrible beginning.

  354. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Well.

    Just about everything went right in this game.

    Huff has earned the nod over Hughes with his fine performance today.

    Phil to the pen.

    The baseball Gods have spoken.

    Congrats to Cabral and Murphy.

    :)

  355. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    doreen-

    when you have watched the yankees for over 50 years, you can tell when a player looks like a yankee. it’s hard to define, but you know it when you see it.

    i saw murphy on a 35 degree day in portland and the only people out near the bullpen before the game were him and me and the kid i brought along to watch BP . it was so cold they cancelled BP.

    murphy was out there doing catcher drills by himself. footwork on throws etc.
    the way he handled giving an autograph to the kid, the way he did his work, and the way he caught and hit that day all said yankee to me.

    no one else on the field that day caught my eye. he was it.

  356. Wang IS Taiwan September 2nd, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    But MTU, “earning” doesn’t seem to have a place on this team with Girardi. You gotta be on “the list” to get the nod.

  357. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Wang-

    If Girardi pitches Hughes over Huff next time round I think he’s crazy.

    That’s all I can say.

    Hughes would likely be more help out of the pen right now.

  358. Wang IS Taiwan September 2nd, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Girardi’s gotta be thanking the rain today for saving him from another absurd call on starting pitcher.

  359. Wang IS Taiwan September 2nd, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Hughes would likely be more help out of the pen right now.

    This is WAY too logical, MTU. That’s the trouble.

  360. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    I think it will probably be Hughes on a short leash next time out.

  361. Wang IS Taiwan September 2nd, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    BTW, not so sure I want Phil coming out of the pen to give up a HR. He would not be my first or second option out of pen unless the Yanks were ahead by at least 4 and no runners were on base.

  362. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Wang-

    We don’t know how Hughes would have done but I can say that I very much doubt it would have been better than what Huff gave us.

    There is a good chance it would have been worse.

    FWIS Huff has earned another start.

    ;)

  363. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Most likely Huff will piggyback Hughes.

    But I really think Huff offers more right now.

    Who is throwing the ball better at the moment ?

  364. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    “I think it will probably be Hughes on a short leash next time out.”

    girardi ought to put a short leash on his wall in his office as a joke for reporters.

    not say anything just put it there.

  365. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Wang-

    I think you might be surprised at how good Phil might be out of the Pen right now.

    My bet is that he can dial it up to 95 + and just keep challenging hitters the way he did that other season.

    Just blow it by guys when he knows he only has to go a short way.

    Be extremely aggressive.

  366. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    too bad the yankees don’t have a young left handed hitting catcher to pair up with murphy.

  367. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    I’m also hoping Cabral can replace Logan.

  368. Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Randy,

    I have been rooting for him since I saw Charleston play Lakewood a couple of seasons ago. He just looks good!

    I’d have to check, but he may not even have caught the game I saw.

    Another guy caught my eye that day, Graham Stoneburner, a pitcher, who has had some struggles since, but who was lights out that day, close to a no hitter. I think he looked goid in his last few appearances this year. He had some injury issues.

    Always goid when you see a guy working when it looks like no one s watching. It’s that something extra.

    I’m also loving what I see from Romine. This is the guy I saw in Trenton.

    Perhaps the system isn’t so bereft of talent as is popular to say; perhaps it’s just a little delayed.

  369. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Huff has been around for 5 years with a lifetime BAA of .292. His BAA for Cleveland this year was .500. It looks like he has figured something out and turned himself around and that he is a much better pitcher than that right now. But the history is a concern. If it was my choice I would start Huff or Warren but its Joe’s choice and I think he will stay with Hughes.

  370. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Randy-

    They could have had that if they acquired Jaso from the M’s.

    :(

  371. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    “Always goid when you see a guy working when it looks like no one s watching. It’s that something extra.”

    doreen-

    yes, it shows they have that extra inner drive that separates the special ones.

  372. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Doreen-

    Some people think Minor league players are like pop tarts.

    Just heat ‘em up and serve ‘em to the Major leagues.

    Unfortunately, that meal takes a lot more preparation and time.

    ;)

  373. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    RM-

    I go with what I’m seeing.

    And I’m seeing that Huff is a better pitcher than Hughes right now.

    If he falters then he gets the early hook just like Hughes would.

    He should get another shot based on the current weight of the evidence IMO.

  374. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    “They could have had that if they acquired Jaso from the M’s.”

    he’s a little old. in the old days the yankees had berra, blanchard,jake gibbs.

    there’s something about left handed hitting yankee catchers i like. posada spoiled us with his switch hitting. that’s beyond good to have in a catcher.

  375. Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Randy

    Because at this level, they all obviously have talent or they wouldn’t be there. What sets a player apart? That’s the question.

    Just watched his post-game. He’s great.

  376. ObviousMan September 2nd, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Most people on this board are idiots that think they understand how to run a baseball team, which they do not. There’s a reason why Cashman is the GM and you are wasting time on a message board complaining about him. LOL

  377. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    The question should be, who gives you the better chance to win right now Hughes or Huff ?

    FWIS I say it’s Huff.

    Don’t see how anyone could say different if you compare the way each has been throwing the ball.

    Just look back at the last 20 innings or so for each.

    ;)

  378. Doreen September 2nd, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    MTU,

    Don’t you wish though? LOL

    Also noticed Bichette had been doing a little better toward the end of the season.

    It would be great if there was a constant pipeline of great rookies to put into the ML.

  379. GregD September 2nd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    What a difference a day makes….. :)

  380. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    “There’s a reason why Cashman is the GM and you are wasting time on a message board complaining about him”

    not for long :)

  381. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    MTU,

    I hope Girardi sees it that way too. It probably doesn’t matter which one you start. The other should be ready in case the starter gets in trouble. I like what I saw today but it was against a very bad team

  382. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Doreen-

    It would. But it takes luck, time, and good development.

    Qualities the Yankees have not always been shown to possess.

    Good self-scouting is imperative.

    I still think we have a lot of potential in a number of areas.

    I haven’t given up on our Farm system by any means.

  383. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    “Just look back at the last 20 innings or so for each.”

    Actually if you go back 20 innings that would include the 3 inning and 5 ER he gave up with the Indians and Huff wouldn’t look that great

  384. Duh Innings II September 2nd, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    The Yanks must go 5-1 in their next six games if they want to have a prayer of a chance to make the postseason. That means sweep the White Sox then take three out of four against Boston this weekend.

    Huff should replace Hughes in the rotation and Girardi would be an idiot to go with Hughes at this point. Thanks to the weather for preventing Hughes from stinking it up again!

    Fun fact:

    Romine’s two-run double today means he, Stewart, and Cervelli have combined for 42 RBI (10 RBI, 24 RBI, and 8 RBI respectively), only 11 RBI less than Russell Martin’s RBI total last year and the Yanks still have 23 games left to play. They’d need 24 more RBI to match what Martin and Stewart posted last year I don’t think they’ll collect but I could see them combining for another 10 RBI for a decent 52 RBI considering Stewart has been a career backup, Romine barely had any MLB experience coming into the season, and Murphy’s big-league career just began today.

  385. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    RM-

    Check Huff’s ERA. It isn’t only against the White Sox.

    But yeah, that’s probably the way it goes.

    Hughes gets the start and Huff piggyback’s him.

  386. Duh Innings II September 2nd, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    NO WAY Hughes should start against the Red Sox – it must be Huff.

    This isn’t spring training and the Yanks owe Hughes nothing.

  387. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    I like the lefty against Boston as well.

    Will neutralize some of their power.

  388. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Hughes has faced Boston just once this season.

    He lasted 4 innings and gave up 5 runs.

    Still want to take a chance on him ?

  389. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Kuroda needs to return to being Kuroda tomorrow.

  390. ObviousMan September 2nd, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Yes, Randy, for long. Your baseball career will amount to nothing, whereas Cashman is already regarded as one of the top GM’s in the league, by everyone except moronic negative Yankee fans.

  391. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Odds that the Murphy Family is getting drunk tonight ?

    ;)

  392. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Good evening everyone,

    Nice to have a laugher for a change… So Murphy had an at bat and his first hit out of the way?, good for him.

    Randy,

    I meant to commend you for how people need to debate to avoid the craziness… It was a very thoughtful proposal. ;) I hope it works.

  393. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Now I see why the post game post is so late.

    It’s Heyman at the controls.

  394. ObviousMan September 2nd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    “Why can’t the Yankees develop great homegrown players like the amazing Red Sox,” whine the no-nothing Yankee bloggers and message board posters, just like they’ve been doing for the past 5-10 years.

    Meanwhile, homegrown players Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera, Cano, Gardner, Soriano, Romine, Nova, Robertson, Claiborne, Warren, along with cheap buy-ins even the Astros could have afforded like Reynolds, Overbay, Huff, Kelly, and Logan keep on making a playoff push that all the REALISTIC Yankee fans said would be completely impossible.

    Yankee management is not the problem. Yankee fans are the problem. And when it comes to Steinbrenners and Co. vs. whiny, negative Yankee fans online, Steinbrenner’s team wins 10/10.

    EPIC FAIL

  395. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    You will see Hughes in relief this week either against the White or Red Sox.
    This will eliminate him from a start against them.
    Bank on it….

  396. ObviousMan September 2nd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Where’s this epic collapse of the Yankees that is supposedly ten years in the making? Realistic Yankee fans? On your super intelligent and brilliant blogs you’ve been predicting an epic collapse for the past ten years. When is it coming? I’m waiting on your Realistic predictions to come true.

    hahaha

  397. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Meanwhile, homegrown players Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera, Cano, Gardner, Soriano, Romine, Nova, Robertson, Claiborne, Warren, along with cheap buy-ins even the Astros could have afforded like Reynolds, Overbay, Huff, Kelly, and Logan keep on making a playoff push that all the REALISTIC Yankee fans said would be completely impossible.
    ============================
    Haven’t you noticed they are jumping on the bandwagon?
    Yet, most here won’t commit to them making the playoffs in a blog poll…

  398. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Where’s this epic collapse of the Yankees that is supposedly ten years in the making?
    ======================
    Luis said it will be next year.
    Of course, early on it was to be this year.
    One of these years he might be right…

  399. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Randy,
    Please tell us your Murphy story again.

  400. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    luis-

    yeah, it’s a no brainer that if those of us who don’t especially like each other don’t throw blood in the water we won’t be attracting so many sharks.

    it’s not that hard to raise the level to what it would be face to face.
    people are much more polite in person even when they disagree.

  401. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    mick-

    don’t be afraid to go to a minor league game sometime.

    i’m sure yankee feminista could show you the ropes. or j.al pru. or doreen or a whole bunch of people here.

    i never hear your minor league stories.

    why is that?

  402. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    I meant to commend you for how people need to debate to avoid the craziness…
    ======================
    Throwing little digs their way doesn’t help the matter.

  403. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    see no blood :)

  404. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    why do you always repeat the same stories over and over randy?
    are you just senile?
    if so i am sorry…

  405. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    mick-

    you don’t call this year an epic collapse?

    this is one of the worst yankee teams in decades and there was no reason for it except management and ownership had a PLAN.

    a doofus plan.

  406. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    mick -

    you don’t like them , don’t read them :)

    as for me i like hearing baseball stories from people who ACTUALLY go to games and have stories to tell.

  407. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Randy,

    It’s not like you are DiMaggio who thought there was always a new fan out there who hadn’t seen him play so he owed it to them to always be at his best.

    We have heard the Murphy “story ” at least 15 times and it isn’t that great.

    You have had better ones. :)

  408. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    randy

    It would be an epic collapse if all in fact all of the players that were injured were not but instead had terrible seasons.

    And despite all of the injuries and the unexpected performances from players like CC, we still hang in the race.

    This is a classic case of whether you view the cup half empty of half full.

  409. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:33 pm
    mick-

    you don’t call this year an epic collapse?
    ——————–
    randy, 1965 was an epic collapse for the Yankees, they weren’t good again for 10 years.

    2013 isn’t an epic collapse, they had half the team on the DL for most or all of the season, their ace having a career off-year, and are 9 games above .500 with their best available team on the field.

    You can disagree with the direction of the team (and obviously do) and you may also be right but they are in the race and still have a team with players that are worth our support.

    Next year is next year, they can’t make substantial changes in the middle of the season and we’ll see how they react to what has happened during 2013 in the off season.

    Meanwhile, they are still in the race, you will have to excuse many long time Yankees fans like myself who aren’t fixated on the future while they still have a shot this year.

  410. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    MG

    Very well put. Thanks

  411. mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Really glad for rain delay and eliminating Hughes from the starting rotation today. Nice dividend to the humidity in NYC.

    And another day of Arod in lineup and Gypsy Rose Lee on the sidelines. Bada boom.

  412. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    mick September 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    AAO is jerkface.
    His m.o. is a quick , short retort and he is speechless.

    ——————–

    Comical

  413. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    RIB-

    Did you get any ?

    Fish, I mean.

    :)

  414. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    jpb173 September 2nd, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    mick September 2nd, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    one thing about the 189 yanks will have to get younger

    ————————

    Probably is they will probably be worse.

    ========================================

    There were multiple reports that Hal had a meeting with Cashman, scouts and minor league staff to bemoan the lack of talent ready to come up next year. The way I read that is that someone (probably Cashman) is going to ‘get the boot’ in the offseason so that Steinbrenner can blame someone else for the next few years’ poor results.

    ——————-

    problem***

    They might do that but I think more and more fans have started to question what Hal is doing when it comes to 189??

  415. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    “You can disagree with the direction of the team (and obviously do) and you may also be right but they are in the race and still have a team with players that are worth our support”

    mg -

    actually it was your support that allowed this team to get this bad. ha couldn’t have done it without support from fans like you.

    it took alex giving the finger to hal to put some life into it.

  416. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    this is one of the worst yankee teams in decades and there was no reason for it except management and ownership had a PLAN.
    =======================
    Only if the plan was to disable Tex, break Jeter’s ankle, Arod’s hip and Grandy’s wrist.
    Did I forget anyone?

  417. bigdan22 September 2nd, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    Been thinking about how miserable the farm system was this year. Not even able to get all three first rounders on the field. And the top outfielders, the prime source of near to mid-term optimism for an aging major league roster, pretty much all experienced various levels of failure. But I’m trying to think positively and not think about how incredibly poor the second half was for who many thought was the yanks’ best, albeit raw, prospect–DePaula.

    Here are my three bright spots. (1) J.R. Murphy. Not a standout, but a real solid and consistent season. And when that is tied to a catcher with credible defensive skills at AAA, and who is at an appropriate age, that is definitely value. I think it’s safe to say that Murphy will become, in the not too distant future, a major leaguer. How many position players in the Yankees’ farm system can you say that about? Seriously. That makes him one of the few if only serious trading chip the Yanks have in the minors. (2) Greg Bird. Not even close, by far the best offensive numbers in the system. Power, patience, average. I know you are not supposed to get excited about prospects below AA but this was a lousy year all around and at least Bird is young for his level. O’Brian isn’t and is strike out totals were ridiculous. (3) Now this is as stretch. A big one. Cito Culver. I think he hit better than .350 at Tampa. Now I know it was only 65 abs but if you combine his Charleston numbers with Tampa he still significantly improved over last season. And he has three things working in his favor. He is still very young for his level. Will be 21 next year for Tampa. And this was his first year hitting only right-handed. That alone should give a young player a year long pass. And finally he’s a SS with possibly superior fielding skills. He doesn’t have to hit much to be a serious prospect. Very interested to see what he does next year to see if these last four weeks were a fluke.

  418. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    MTU,

    3 in the 12-16 inch range.

    Was a nice day, I listened to JR Murphy’s first hit on the ride home. What a great day!

  419. mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    Those who question Hal about getting to 189 will think him a genius when luxury tax is minimized and the wallet opens again.

  420. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    How did Arod give Hal the finger?
    You have been saying this for weeks and it’s not true.
    If he got 50 games, he would have taken it.
    He just did the smart thing and will make them prove it.

  421. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    RIB-

    Sounds like an all round winner.

    :)

  422. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Sounds like an all round winner.
    =================
    That’s better than being an all around whiner.

  423. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    MTU

    The Irresistible was the fly of the day.

    When all else fails!

    :)

  424. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:49 pm
    “You can disagree with the direction of the team (and obviously do) and you may also be right but they are in the race and still have a team with players that are worth our support”

    mg -

    actually it was your support that allowed this team to get this bad. ha couldn’t have done it without support from fans like you.

    it took alex giving the finger to hal to put some life into it.
    ——————————
    that is absolutely the most preposterous thing I’ve ever read on this blog.

    As is this constant claim that Arod put life in the team.

    What put life in the team was having real major leaguers on the field on a regular basis, including Arod, instead of the scrubs and minor leaguers that they were forced to have in the lineup because of the injuries.

    First you say that discourse has to be more civil then you post crap like that, you have one hell of a nerve making those kinds of statements, essentially a personal attack.

    Talk about being disingenuous, that brings the term to new heights.

  425. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Those who question Hal about getting to 189 will think him a genius when luxury tax is minimized and the wallet opens again.
    ==================
    They can’t think that far ahead.
    They preach patience and the farm system but can’t wait for tomorrow.

  426. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Why would he open the wallet again if his plan is to rely so heavily on the farm?? I would like to think if Trout reaches the market they will bid on him but they could just say hey we have Heathcott here and he’s just as good.

  427. luis September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    I am sorry guys… But the fact that we are struggling this season to make it to October would be enough to see that they had the wrong plan… First, they neglected to develop a core while the old one was still able to take the brunt of the responsibility… Then, they chose to trade several players for either instant gratification or a complete change in the Yankee philosophy

    Ask the vaunted Braves how many WS they won with their superb pitching and defense

  428. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    I agree Mick.

    We are blessed. Look at Cub fans. One year at a time.

  429. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    “Only if the plan was to disable Tex, break Jeter’s ankle, Arod’s hip and Grandy’s wrist.
    Did I forget anyone?”

    teixeira was only a good 1/3 of a player.

    alex was a broken down injured player last fall.

    same with jeter

    so granderson who was told the yankees had no interest in him next year was the one injury that brought down this team?

    now that’s a nice story mick

    but it’s the same old pro management story from you

    the fact is this is a bad team.

  430. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Later folks.

  431. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    I have to agree with MG and Rhapsody. I don’t see this year as an epic collapse. It hasn’t been a huge fun year, but considering the entirety of the circumstances with which Joe has had to deal, I think it’s been a pretty amazing year. Hopefully there are more good things to come.

    ************

    So I kind of had this “awesome karma” scenario. The last World Series game Sori played in was the one where Mariano gave up the bloop hit to (suspected ‘roider) Luis Gonzalez, that ended up losing the game. Sori is now back with the team, and it’s Mo’s last season. Sori is the one who gave the Yanks the chance to win back in 2001. So imagine if the Yanks make the WS and they – Sori and Mo – end up being the tandem that brings it home! Yeah, we have at least some bad karma on the team, but if Tar is calling it right, so do other teams. We KNOW the Sux do. So maybe the holiness and purity of Mo, and the gung-ho-ness of Soriano can overcome any negative. Maybe the baseball gods will smile down on us.

    It sure would be one heck of a story!

    I know that’s pie in the sky, and so much would have to go right for that to happen. But man oh man, can you imagine how wonderful that would be? And I believe Sori so deserves to have a ring.

  432. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    that is absolutely the most preposterous thing I’ve ever read on this blog.
    =========================
    Then you haven’t been reading his tripe.
    He says things just to get reactions.
    And never has a comeback.

  433. mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    The plan has always been to build a strong farm team. And there is nothing wrong whatsoever with that. But other teams got used to holding the Yanks up to a Kings Ransom with the money that the Yanks paid them in luxury tax.

    Can’t blame the Yanks for wanting to put an end to that.

  434. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    RIB-

    For me the fishing would just be the excuse for being there.

    Kind of like how Photography gives me the excuse to visit beautiful places.

    You capture fish. I capture images. But we both love the settings.

    That is the common bond.

    :)

  435. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    luis – if the Yanks had not had the outrageous numbers of injuries they did, and if the Yankee starting pitching had played up to its billing – and we were still in the same shape – I would then have to question other things. But those things are realities.

  436. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    First, they neglected to develop a core while the old one was still able to take the brunt of the responsibility…
    ============================
    Isn’t that what they are doing now?
    They might not all be here next year but is 2015 so far away?

  437. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    “Can’t blame the Yanks for wanting to put an end to that.”

    You sure can’t.

  438. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    mg-

    do you get the concept that mcdonalds doesn’t get to stay in business if their customers don’t support them.

    i don’t support them any more than i support hal’s plan.

    you and others keep buying his crap.

    so hal couldn’t do it without you.

    nothing complicated abut that.

    as far as alex goes.

    look at the record before and after he FORCED his way on the team against hal’s wishes?
    do you know of this ever happening before where a player forces his way on a team?

  439. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    But other teams got used to holding the Yanks up to a Kings Ransom with the money that the Yanks paid them in luxury tax.

    —————————–

    Isn’t it revenue sharing that goes to other teams??

  440. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    but it’s the same old pro management story from you

    the fact is this is a bad team.
    =====================
    Not one for labels are you yet you are the 1st one to label Tom.

    A bad team? Maybe if you are still comparing them to the 61 yankees.

    You ought to go to a few games and invest some passion in the team.

    You could be a Red Sox fan for all we know :)

  441. mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Against All Odds – yeah you are right. Meant to say revenue sharing

  442. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    trishamickrhapsodyinblue-

    you have been all wrong all year about this team and continue to have no clue.

    you should be sitting on the sidelines wondering why you were so wrong.

    so now you’ve made up this convenient story that injuries derailed hal’s awesome plan.

    guess what. the yankees have pretty good pitching and they are still mediocre.
    pitching doesn’t win.

  443. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    but it’s the same old pro management story from you
    ==========================
    and it’s the same anti-management story from you.
    and all b/c they fired your buddy Neil.
    Get real…

  444. mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Against – but the fact that MLB collects luxury and uses it for its purposes has the indirect effect of which I spoke

  445. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    randy, repeat this crap 100 more times, maybe someone will believe you.

    I’ve been a Yankees fan since 1953, don’t tell me how to be a fan.

    I’ve posted on this blog for almost 5 years specifically to exchange ideas about baseball, mostly regarding in game stuff, at the end of the day it doesn’t make me more or less of a fan than anyone else.

    Since I don’t live in New York and my ONLY financial contribution to the Yankees in 2013 has been two tickets to one spring training game in Tampa, what I think doesn’t mean squat to the Yankees. My $25 a month payment to MLB for the online streaming probably gives the Yankees less than 50 cents a month in revenue sharing, I think they are concerned about that either.

    You can do or think whatever you want, it doesn’t mean anything to me.

    There are probably about 100 posters on this blog, I don’t think the Yankees care much about what is said here either.

  446. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Balance wins.

    :)

  447. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    trishamickrhapsodyinblue-

    this isn’t your team now.

    this team scores runs.

    no more PITCHING WINS
    this is more my team and that’s why i’m rooting again.

    your team sucked.

  448. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    randy – with all due respect, not everyone agrees that arod “forced” his way on the team. I’ve never seen anything to back this up except for your supposition. And you continue to accuse people of buying Hal’s “crap”. What if you’ve gotten it wrong? My father always told us that there were three sides to every story – “mine, yours, and the truth.” Many of us are still waiting for the truth to emerge.

  449. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    “I’ve been a Yankees fan since 1953, don’t tell me how to be a fan.”

    be a fan how you want.

    i don’t tell people how to be mcdonald’s fans either.

    of course if they want to die young that’s their business :)

  450. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 8:07 pm
    Against All Odds – yeah you are right. Meant to say revenue sharing

    ————————

    Honest mistake

  451. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    “My father always told us that there were three sides to every story – “mine, yours, and the truth.” Many of us are still waiting for the truth to emerge.”

    trisha-

    the truth is one game over .500 before alex came back.

  452. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    randy, randy, randy -

    There is no “your team” and “our team”. The same organization that you so desperately hate is the one that brought Soriano back. Soriano has been key in the Yankees making a run for it. So has Mark Reynolds. So they assessed, as they always do at deadline time, and they brought in players.

    Nobody expected the starting pitching to fold like an accordion and for three of their starters to have the dismal records that they do. There was no indication that would happen. Save for that, the record could look much different.

    You continually remind us that this isn’t life and death – it’s just a game. So why do you get so emotionally invested and preachy if it’s just a game?

  453. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Trisha-

    Your Father taught you well.

    But you knew that didn’t you.

    ;)

  454. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    “the truth is one game over .500 before alex came back.”

    Right. Look at Sori’s RBI and homers since he’s returned.

  455. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:13 pm
    “I’ve been a Yankees fan since 1953, don’t tell me how to be a fan.”

    be a fan how you want.

    i don’t tell people how to be mcdonald’s fans either.

    of course if they want to die young that’s their business
    ————————————————–
    Once again, you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

    First you tell everyone they need to be more civil, then you make personal attacks.

    My life is in a really good place right now, I don’t need this crap.

    Enjoy yourself, I’m sure you have many friends who tell you what a great guy you are, all 3 of them.

    I’ll walk away from this blog, like so many others, and never look back at the lunacy that permeates this place most of the time.

  456. mikey487 September 2nd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    I don’t see how either of you can claim that Sori and Arod are mutually exclusive reasons for the Yanks coming on as they have.

  457. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    MTU – :)

    So so well. And foolish me for the times I didn’t pay close attention to all that wisdom. I sure know that he definitely realizes how much I respect and appreciate all of his teachings.

    Thanks Dad.

    heart heart heart

  458. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    “First you tell everyone they need to be more civil, then you make personal attacks.”

    mg-

    i am being civil.

    i’m juts telling you a boycott of the yankees while under hal’s plan will make them a better team.

  459. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    “Once again, you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

    First you tell everyone they need to be more civil, then you make personal attacks.”

    randy, he is right about that.

    MG – please don’t go. You have a lot of friends here and a lot who really enjoy talking baseball with you – even though I know I’m not one of your favorites. The blog would be a poorer place if you left.

  460. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    trisha-

    let’s get this straight . your father supports hal’s plan?

    is that how your argument is shaping up.

    and no , this is not yours or micks or rhapsodyin blues team.

    your team is the one game over .500 one.

  461. MG September 2nd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    “First you tell everyone they need to be more civil, then you make personal attacks.”

    mg-

    i am being civil.

    i’m juts telling you a boycott of the yankees while under hal’s plan will make them a better team.
    ———————-
    this will be my final blog post, randy, it’s something I learned a long time ago from one of the great sales trainers, David Sandler:

    ‘Telling isn’t selling’

    Maybe you should learn from that quote, I’ve probably done over $100,000,000 in sales since then because of it.

  462. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    randy, you don’t even know what Hal’s plan is. When it emerges, in all its glory, we’ll talk about it.

    And I won’t even dignify your silliness about “our team and your team”.

  463. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    mg-

    it’s a free country .

    do what you want.

  464. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    trisha-

    your PITCHING WINS team flat out sucked.

    it was a big fail.

  465. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    MG, I rarely post anymore but I felt I needed to say something here. You have always been a valuable member of this blog. We are two NYers in Florida (so some kinship). You really should hang around. Heck I don’t even know if that is really Randy who I tend to like anyway.

  466. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Only because the pitching didn’t deliver the way the organization thought it would. No way to have known that.

    That’s baseball.

    By the way, you are in the minority when it comes to offense vs. defense and pitching.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.

    Please try to be a little nicer to people. Nobody wants to be knocked around like ping pong balls and told they’re stupid just because they disagree with your position. You are taking it as a given that you have the right answer(s). Well there are people who take the opposite position who feel they are equally right.

    See you on the other thread, if you’re going there. I hope MG changes his mind and stays.

  467. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    “and it’s the same anti-management story from you.
    and all b/c they fired your buddy Neil.”

    hey mick-

    how’d you like the kid neil taught how to command his fastball at triple a when he shutting down the yankees last week. that was an impressive performance by archer.

    yup cashman sure knows his coaches :)


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