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Yankees postgame: Hughes or Huff?

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Sep 02, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

David HuffPhil Hughes had bad luck in this game. The hour and 53 minute rain delay took him out of the game after just four outs and five batters. The Yankees erupted for a season-high eight runs in a single inning, the fourth. That could have been Hughes’ property. Instead the runs belonged to David Huff.

The lefty picked up the ball for Hughes and earned the 9-1 win over the White Sox. He worked  5 2/3, a career high in relief, and allowed one run, five hits and no walks.

Afterward, Joe Girardi was noncommittal about whether there will be a change from Hughes to Huff for Saturday’s game against the Red Sox.

“I haven’t made any decisions about changing the rotation,” Girardi said.

Huff, who has allowed one run in 15 innings over five outings since coming back from Triple-A, is ready for anything.

“When I first got here, Joe was saying, ‘We’re going to be using you.’ I said, ‘OK,’ ” Huff said. “A few innings, whatever he needs, I’ll make sure I’m ready for it.”

Hiroki Kuroda will get the ball Tuesday night. He has appeared to be wearing down, going 1-4 with a 5.12 ERA over his last five starts.

“We need him to pitch well because he has been a staple in our rotation,” Girardi said. “He’s been struggling a little bit. … He got an extra day off. Maybe that will help him get going again.”

Both Cesar Cabral and J.R. Murphy made their major-league debuts, giving the Yankees a franchise-record 52 players used this season. Cabral pitched a scoreless eighth. And Murphy got a pinch-hit infield single batting for Robinson Cano in the eighth.

“I didn’t know who I was hitting for until they announced it, so that was pretty cool,” Murphy said. “After that, I just wanted to have a good at-bat. I was nervous, so I made sure I took the first pitch instead of swinging at it.”

Brett Gardner doubled twice, so six of his last eight hits have been doubles.

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93 Responses to “Yankees postgame: Hughes or Huff?”

  1. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Girardi hinted at Hughes in relief in the next few days so I say Huff starts against Boston.
    An unknown lefty at home against the vaunted redsox…I love it!

  2. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Huff for me.

    :)

  3. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    Mick-

    Too bad Phelps is injured or he would have been in there helping out as well.

    :(

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Wow mick. That would be a great move if he did it. When you’re at the point of playing for all of the marbles and you don’t have many cats eyes, you really need to play big with the ones you have.

    Something like that.

  5. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    He had his Baptism by fire and came out the other side like Vulcanized rubber.

    ;)

  6. Against All Odds September 2nd, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Huff pitch.

  7. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    MG, I rarely post anymore due to the rampant stupidity, but I felt I needed to say something here. You have always been a valuable member of this blog. We are two NYers in Florida (so some kinship). You really should hang around. Heck I don’t even know if that is really Randy who I tend to like anyway.

  8. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    The question is “Do ya’ feel lucky punk ?”

    Cause if you do you pitch Phil Hughes.

    But if you don’t feel so “lucky” you go with Huff.

    Either could get blown out but I like my chances better with Huff right now.

    Gave my reasons earlier.

    ;)

  9. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Hello Trish, Randy and my friend MTU.

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Hey Bronx! How are you!!!

  11. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Hughes would be instrumental in the pen as Joba is shot.
    I see this coming….Girardi did mention Hughes name and the pen in the same sentence in the post game when asked.
    It’s certainly where he will be in the post season when we get there.
    With a good week, we could be back in 1st soon…

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    MTU – did you see my dream scenario? If so, what do you think of it?

  13. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Bronx-

    Greetings Oh Poet laureate of LoHud.

    How goes it ?

    Books flyin’ off the shelves I hope ?

    :)

  14. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    “With a good week, we could be back in 1st soon…”

    Can you imagine if that ever happened? The Sux don’t even consider the Yanks contenders anymore. They talk about the Rays and the O’s.

  15. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Hi Trisha, am good, writing away. How’s by you?

  16. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    bronx born-

    it’s me all right.

    i’m just telling it the way it is to some people who are trying to make like the present team is their team.

    it isn’t. their was a pitching wins team that was one game above .500.

  17. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Hey MTU, yeah been selling a lot of books lately and getting out to a bunch of readings. Just finished writing a new one with two more in the works. How’s my photo pal?

  18. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Randy is all by his lonesome playing by himself on the last thread if anyone wonders why he isn’t here.

  19. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    good call mick :)

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Bronx, busier than I want to be, ha ha. Busy with the practice, family, and some committee of which I have been put in charge and would rather not have been. My dance card is seldom empty. But as my wonderful dad would always say, there are no victims, only volunteers.

    MTU – he really was a wise wise man. Thank you for always acknowledging him that way.

  21. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Trisha-

    I must have missed it.

    Can you repeat it here and then I’ll let you know ?

    Bronx-

    Endeavoring to persevere. Tough 6-8 Months.

    Clouds parting slowly.

    Rays of sunshine starting break thru.

    Road to recovery is in sight.

  22. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    Trisha-

    Your love and respect of your Father is evident and touching.

    You have many of his fine qualities within you.

    ;)

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    MTU – you probably saw it on the other thread. I called it my awesome karma scenario:

    So I kind of had this “awesome karma” scenario. The last World Series game Sori played in was the one where Mariano gave up the bloop hit to (suspected ‘roider) Luis Gonzalez, that ended up losing the game. Sori is now back with the team, and it’s Mo’s last season. Sori is the one who gave the Yanks the chance to win back in 2001. So imagine if the Yanks make the WS and they – Sori and Mo – end up being the tandem that brings it home! Yeah, we have at least some bad karma on the team, but if Tar is calling it right, so do other teams. We KNOW the Sux do. So maybe the holiness and purity of Mo, and the gung-ho-ness of Soriano can overcome any negative. Maybe the baseball gods will smile down on us.

    It sure would be one heck of a story!

    I know that’s pie in the sky, and so much would have to go right for that to happen. But man oh man, can you imagine how wonderful that would be? And I believe Sori so deserves to have a ring.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    MTU – that is the ultimate compliment. I hope and pray it’s true.

    Thank you so much.

  25. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    trisha-

    it’s nice you loved your dad, but no offense, i think there are a whole lot of things he could have taught you that he didn’t.

    one of them is PITCHING WINS doesn’t work :)

  26. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    good call mick
    ==============
    it really is if you think about it randy as you were exposed again…

  27. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    as far as soriano goes, we all seem to like him.

    except cashman didn’t want to do the deal.

    so trisha what’s up with that?

  28. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    Hi Trish…. sounds like your life is full. that is good…

    MTU, am so sorry to hear about your troubles but glad they are fading away and the sun is pouring through.

    Randy, I wrote this huge reply which they are not publishing… so will parse it to you.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    randy, he taught me the important things in life. Some less important things I figured out by paying close attention. “Pitching wins” is one of them.

  30. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Trisha-

    That would be a great ending to the story.

    I have always wanted Mo to go out with another ring, and AP too.

    Soriano has been a revelation since his return.

    His smile lights up the whole stadium.

    Always loved him as a player. Was saddened when they traded him though I understood.

    He has come full circle. Maybe he’s the instrument. Maybe that dream of yours will happen.

    :)

  31. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    I hear ya Randy,

    There has just been so much posing and sometimes it is hard to tell. Am not hear a lot so am glad you are you. I was born a Yankee fan at Bronx Hospital which no longer exists. I lived on 163rd street. I grew up loving Mick. To me he was the best player of all time although after seeing Willie Mays catch some heaven sent balls I would place him a close second.

  32. CCBiggs September 2nd, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Huff!!!! The real question is why anyone would stick with Hughes at this point? Hughes is having one of the worst seasons of any starting pitcher in MLB this year. If the Yanks have even a minimally plausible alternative to Hughes, they should use it. Huff looks decent. Go with him!

  33. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    Next:

    I loved that team. I don’t know that I love this one as much to tell you the truth. Living through the CBS years was excruciating and frankly I was never very happy with George’s style. I really could not even watch baseball during that era. The core group of Yankees – Jeter, Bernie, Andy, Mo and Jorge brought me back.

  34. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    bronx born

    mantle was the man

    the best player there’s ever been.

  35. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    I think so Randy… I never saw anyone play the game like he did.

  36. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    I have to compliment all of you tonight.

    What a great couple of threads.

    The passion on both sides is evident.

    The bond is that you’re Yankees fans and each in your own way want the best for the Team.

    That’s what I see.

    ;)

  37. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    and some more to my response Randy:

    I love the game – I had limited skills but loved to play and get dirty. I know I am rambling. I am not watching much baseball this year and to me that is very sad. This whole thing with PED and the way MLB has handled it has gotten me disgusted.

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 2nd, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    MTU – so much would have to happen for that to come true. But it is within the realm of possibility. But what a dream scenario. (And what a comeback that would be. Talk about the return of the Titans!)

    Anyway, one day at a time, one step at a time.

    With that, I bid all a fond adieu. I hope MG changes his mind.

    :)

  39. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Sweet dreams Trisha.

    Always dream big when you dream.

    :)

  40. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Bronx-

    Thanks for the sentiment.

    Glad sales are going well.

  41. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Oh. And one more thing Trisha.

    It’s true.

    ;)

  42. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    the one night I log on and everyone is quiet.. weird.

  43. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Well. That was easy. Everyone voted for Huff.

    Now all we need to do is convince Joe.

    ;)

  44. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    It’s been more quiet of late Bronx.

    There have been factional wars raging at times.

    That has sent some of our posters scurrying for the exits.

    But hopefully they’ll return.

    :)

  45. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Tonight was good because both sides had their say.

    Kind of a catharsis hopefully.

    Peace might return to the valley.

  46. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    bronx born-

    i’m sure the blog will kick in tomorrow morning.
    come around for the breakfast group.
    it’s usually good baseball talk led by mtu and blake the early risers.

  47. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    That has sent some of our posters scurrying for the exits.
    ===============
    faint of heart…

  48. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    randy-

    I usually beat Blake.

    He’s lazy and likes to sleep in.

    It comes from him spending all night reading BBQ books and planning out new recipes.

    I can understand it though.

    It must be exhausting holding down both a dental practice and a BBQ obsession.

    :)

  49. mick September 2nd, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    don’t quite understand why confrontational people who believe in something run when pushed back…

  50. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Not to mention all those future Yankees scurrying around.

  51. BronxBorn September 2nd, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    will do guys.

    I know PEDs are not the way to go and am not excusing them but I also understand the situation. Am not so sure that if I were coming up to day that I wouldn’t do anything and everything to play the game.

  52. mnmboys September 2nd, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    I think whether it is Hughes or Huff both will be on a short leash at this point in the season. Personally, I have seen enough of Hughes struggles at YS this year and I have seen Huff pitch really well at YS in his limited time here. My vote is Huff.

  53. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    It shouldn’t be a popularity contest.

    The Yankees simply have to make a rational decision about who they think gives them the best chance of winning that start.

    If they still think that’s Hughes then they should go with him.

    If not, then they should choose Huff.

    It’s really that simple. Or at least it should be IMO.

  54. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    mtu-

    since the yankees have no interest in bringing hughes back i’m sure they could care less about his feelings.

    they’ve already thrown him under the bus. i’m surprised they’ve kept him in the rotation.

  55. randy l. September 2nd, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    a team like the yankees doesn’t build team loyalty from players by telling them they have no interest in signing them.

    granderson, swisher, martin, hughes, joba, etc have all seen it.

    other young players are i’m sure watching.

    if they play hardball with cano and he leaves, it’s a signal that it’s every man for himself in the organization

  56. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Randy-

    I guess we’ll find out.

    The Yankee are very conservative in their decision making IMO.

    I, like you, think if Hughes wants to re-sign on the cheap the Yankees would be foolish to pass that up.

    He’s only 27 and just a pitch away.

    He’ll probably just go where he can get the best dollars.

    I have to believe a West Coast Team would hold extra appeal for him.

    I have changed my opinion of LR by the way. I am not so positive about him anymore.

  57. chicken_stanley September 2nd, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Had to listen to the game today rather than watch it, unfortunately. I know its a small sample size, but how did Cabral look today? I’m not totally familiar with him (remember him from ST last year but honestly haven’t followed him closely in his Minor League rehab) IMO, a LOOGY with the ability to get out right handers has been a Yankee need for quite a while.

  58. austinmac September 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Cabral looked tough against LHBs with a 92 mph fastball and sharp slider. He looks like a specialist to me on a very SSS.

  59. RhapsodyInBlue September 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Great point Randy, no one would sign with the Yankees if they had the opportunity.

    Let me know how many other teams have an old timers game with the turn out like the Yankees had this season.

    I think maybe Herbert T. Gillis spent too much time in the cooler this afternoon.

  60. MTU September 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    It will be a very interesting and informative Winter.

    Of that, I have no doubt.

    I am hoping that at least 2 quality FA’s will be signed, or traded for.

    One for 3b and one to Catch.

    Would not mind getting Morales as our DH/1b.

  61. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Cabral looked real good. Throws hard. Nice change up. First time I had heard of him, let alone seen him. I guess, like Betances, he has had control issues up to now? You ML buffs will know.

  62. austinmac September 2nd, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Whoever recommended they sign Huff should get a bonus. Who knew?

  63. mnmboys September 2nd, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Cabral made lefty bats look silly. The righties he faced hit hard line drives. Fortunately one went in the glove of Reynolds. He looks like a lefty specialist.

  64. chicken_stanley September 2nd, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Thanks austinmac/bruceb.

    bruceb – he had a really good spring in ’12 but broke his elbow at the end of ST.

  65. bruceb September 2nd, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Could do with another lefty specialist in the pen. Logan’s act is wearing a bit thin these days.

  66. chicken_stanley September 2nd, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Although I like Logan, he doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling when coming in to face a tough lefty. I don’t know the stats (I generally go by what I see) but a lefty specialist has been a Yankee need for a while IMO.

  67. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    An unknown lefty at home against the vaunted redsox…I love it!
    ————————————————————
    I wish tht was the case but the Redsox batters are batting .270/.341/.459/.801 against the old verson of David Huff. I hope this new “Aaaron Small like” version of David Huff is real but he’s only been a Yankee for 15 Innings so it might be too soon to tell. Even Joba has good numbers over his last 15 Innings.

    Phil Hughes is .296/.357/.563/.920 vs Boston so I guess Huff is the better choice but the yankees best bet to win that game would be to score 10 or more runs.

  68. rm September 2nd, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Bruce B,

    Cabral was a Rule 5 pick we stole from the Red Sox. He had the team made out of Spring Training bit he had an Elbow injury sothe Yankee kept him on the 60 day disabled list all year and manged to get the release and resign him to get control over him this spring while he was still injured. He was lghts out against lefties last spring and managed to do well enough against righties. He is probably best as lefty only putcher. (a LOOGY)

  69. igotid88 September 2nd, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Hughes will be used in the bullpen on his throw day. Possibly before. Let him throw 2 or 3 innings.

  70. El Yanki September 2nd, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Huff is the smart call,Hughes to the pen. Easy move x Girardi

  71. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    BooYah!! Aybar goes yard. 5-1 Halos. And the young Archer on the second pitch after that brushes Trout back. Good game going on out in Cali.

  72. UnKnown September 2nd, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Archer doesn’t make it through 4. Ouch! :grin:

  73. Melkmanisinhotlanta September 2nd, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Hughsie or Huffie??? How about Tim Conway or Harvey Korman?

  74. jacksquat September 3rd, 2013 at 12:32 am

    TB getting killed. :D

    btw, positive run differential for the Yanks again.

    Gotta go with Huff. Someone needs to beat Girardi over the head with the common sense stick.

  75. nonnoindahizhouse September 3rd, 2013 at 1:03 am

    bahaha rays bring in Sam Fuld to pitch in the 9th… actually looks pretty good… LOOGY might be a legit replacement for boony next year! :-P

  76. UnKnown September 3rd, 2013 at 1:22 am

    2.5 back. I’m thinking the season isn’t over yet, despite what you might hear here.

    Let’s Go

  77. yankinvegas September 3rd, 2013 at 1:42 am

    This finish will be wild.
    We have a pretty good chance. I can’t wait to see what the writers particularly Bill Madden and Lupica are going to say if we get in.
    Reading that will make the whole season worthwhile. Madden drives me crazy because ever since George got sick and then passed, his “exclusives” dried up and he has become a relentless critic of the Yanks minor league development system. It will gratify me greatly to read the little weasel’s explanation for how it happened.

  78. jpb173 September 3rd, 2013 at 6:55 am

    If David moves into rotation, gets on a roll and helps the Yankees get a playoff spot can we call him, “Huff the Magic Dragon”?

  79. mnmboys September 3rd, 2013 at 7:04 am

    Texas Rangers remaining schedule is no joke. I am rooting for an A’s sweep of them in this current series and they will fall back to us along with Tampa. Winning the AL East is still a real long shot. It would have to start by Yanks sweeping them in the 4 game set this weekend. No slip ups to this crap White Sox team! Lets go!

  80. 86w183 September 3rd, 2013 at 7:43 am

    Good morning folks

    This is why the Yanks don’t become sellers on July 31. Too much capability in the organization to throw in the towel.

    No question in my mind that Huff should get the next start over Hughes. Hughes hasn’t gone beyond six innings in seven starts, though we really can’t blame him for yesterday and he was pretty good the two previous outings.

    I always liked David Huff’s and said so when the Yanks got him. He’s been an underachiever in my view. Still, he might be more effective as a long guy than anything else. Who knows?

  81. The Genius Maker September 3rd, 2013 at 7:44 am

    Everyone is asking about who should start in Hughes rotation, but what is wrong with starting Hughes and then as soon as one guy gets on, you take him out and bring in Huff, just like yesterday? I have been saying this is a good strategy in the postseason for awhile, especially against teams that platoon a lot. I wrote it in my blog

    http://stevewigdor.blogspot.com/

  82. randy l. September 3rd, 2013 at 8:00 am

    “I, like you, think if Hughes wants to re-sign on the cheap the Yankees would be foolish to pass that up.

    He’s only 27 and just a pitch away.

    He’ll probably just go where he can get the best dollars.

    I have to believe a West Coast Team would hold extra appeal for him.

    I have changed my opinion of LR by the way. I am not so positive about him anymore.”

    mtu-

    hughes is an interesting case because as you say he ‘s one pitch or one tweak away from being really good.

    what’s interesting is there is no precedent for the yankees just letting a guy like this go without trying to fix him and or sign him long term.

    why people keep blindly overlooking the obvious that hal is doing some very weird things, like letting hughes just walk, is beyond me.

    the yankees now have a 15% chance of making the playoffs. as much as i’m excited to see wins under the alex/soriano team, the original HAL budget team was a big fail.

    and it wasn’t injuries that derailed it. teixeira is only a third of a player , jeter and alex couldn’t be counted on because of age and injuries. granderson is the only real injury and there were no significant pitching injuries to the PITCHING WINS team.

    so therefore if PITCHING WINS they should have been fine. they weren’t and aren’t.
    back to hughes. it’s un yankee like to let a guy like him they develop go without even trying to sign him.
    everyone knows that if he had a good year he was gone. and now even with a bad year, they make no attempt to sign him.

    so one way or the other he was gone before the season started. that makes cashman’s pitching development a big fail. a lot of big fails happening. sorry, i realize not the cheery thing to have coffee over, but you can’t fix it if you don’t know it’s broke.

    hughes should be signed and fixed.

  83. rm September 3rd, 2013 at 8:07 am

    Genius Maker,
    I have been an advocate of the Start the righty and awitch to the lefty after 1 pitch against teams that platoopn strategy for quite some time. You can’t overdo it and it is a little less effective with the expanded roster but I like it.

  84. 86w183 September 3rd, 2013 at 8:09 am

    hughes should be signed and fixed.

    ***********************************************************

    Turning the guy into a gelding isn’t going to accomplish anything.

  85. 86w183 September 3rd, 2013 at 8:11 am

    The idea changing pitchers after one batter or base runner is unprofessional, unethical and would result in several Yankees hitters taking it in the ear hole.

  86. randy l. September 3rd, 2013 at 8:11 am

    if the yankees wnet to hughes and made a good faith offer, it would do wonders for hughes and for the other players in the organization. with the yankees showing no interest in hughes after he was the focal point of their whole development plan, what message does that send to the other players?

    if i were a player, it’d send the message we’re not a team and that management doesn’t have the players backs and considers them just secondary to the success of the yankees.

    and remember, the yankes aren’t letting hughes go because he’s had a bad year. they would let him go if he was having a good year.

  87. randy l. September 3rd, 2013 at 8:13 am

    “Turning the guy into a gelding isn’t going to accomplish anything.”

    i don’t know. hal doesn’t have any baseballs and you seem to like him just fine :)

  88. RhapsodyInBlue September 3rd, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Yeah give Hughes a contract. He’ll spend the off season living over his parents garage and come into camp looking like the Stay Puft marshmallow man.

  89. 86w183 September 3rd, 2013 at 8:45 am

    I don’t like or dislike Hal. I’ve never met him

    I just tend to defend him against idiotic accusations of being a cheapskate when he is spending more money this year than any owner in the history of team sports.

  90. randy l. September 3rd, 2013 at 9:09 am

    “Yeah give Hughes a contract. He’ll spend the off season living over his parents garage and come into camp looking like the Stay Puft marshmallow man.”

    let me get this straight.

    the main blue chip prime nemero uno draft pick the yankees get and develop five years later is just let loose and it’s overall a big fail and you want to continue supporting the management that did that scenario.

    you want to blame the player , discard him ,and let this same management do it over and over again with other players? so is robertsin gone too if he gets too expensive. how about nova? where does it stop?

    gee , i wonder why we don’t see eye to eye.

  91. RhapsodyInBlue September 3rd, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Randy,

    We have a difference of opinion on Hughes.

    This is his 7th year not his 5th and he wouldn’t be the first decent who prospect didn’t live up to early billing, you have to know when to fold.

    Like everyone else here I’m disappointed with Hughes, my fear is more of the same with a contract. I’m all for patience with young pitching but he has had 7 years. One would think if he needed another pitch it would have been part of his arsenal by now.

    Robertson and Nova are pretty decent examples of prospects who have come up through the farm system and have made continual progress.

    frankly I don’t know how you could compare either to Hughes The big difference I see between Nova and Hughes aside from the obvious talent is how Nova responds to adversity.

    Hard to know what drives anyone player but I think that I’ve seen enough of Hughes to know that it isn’t there.

  92. Durant1985 September 3rd, 2013 at 10:40 am

    This is all non sense. Phil Hughes has more than shown he is no longer reliable. How many chances will he get before we realize it. At this point u can tell his confidence is off. Seems like he’s waiting for that terrible inning where he gives up multi-home runs. Do u really lose anything by putting Huff or Warren out there??

  93. austinmac September 3rd, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Hughes averaged 91mph on his fastball in his first two years of starting for the Yankees. That does not scream star to me. He has always been this pitcher. He throws harder now than he did then.

    If he can add a plus pitch or two, he could be pretty good. I would think he would have figured out how to throw one by now if he could. He can’t get a tight enough spin.

    MTU has always wanted him to throw a splitter. I would bet anything, he like virtually every other pitcher, has tried to throw one. Few can throw good ones.

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