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White Sox going with first-time rookie for tonight’s finale

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 04, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Tonight was supposed to be the fourth in a string of four straight left-handed starters to face the Yankees. Instead they’re getting a right-handed September call-up named Erik Johnson, the White Sox second-round pick in 2011 who’s coming off a 1.57 ERA in 10 Triple-A starts this year (he started the season in Double-A). Same situation for the Yankees — still badly need the win — but just a different matchup than originally expected.

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183 Responses to “White Sox going with first-time rookie for tonight’s finale”

  1. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    RS September 4th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    I don’t think Robertson’s pitch counts are going to prevent him from being effective as a closer. In the last few years, he has pitched just as many innings as Mo typically does and the only times he is unavailable to pitch is when he has gone 3 days in a row or 3 out of 4, which is fairly standard for any reliever.

    Closers often get the least amount of work out of the top relievers because modern day managing has limited their use to such a small set of scenarios. Whereas a set-up man will get to pitch not only when the team is up by 3 runs or less but even when they’re up by 4, or down by 1 or in a tie game on the road. So I don’t think Robertson’s daily use is going to increase if he has to close.

    Not to mention, if the Yankees don’t give him that opportunity, he’s almost sure to seek it somewhere else, and how dumb would the Yankees look if he went to another team and dominated in the 9th inning? We can’t afford to lose him from the organization altogether when there’s no obvious alternative out there.
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    RS
    IMO, Robertson will be given the chance. I just think he will fail, blow some saves, make appearances with 20+ pitches thrown, etc….

    Despite how great Robertson has been as the 8th inning man and despite how much he has learned from Mo, Robertson needs to lower his pitch count per appearance if he wants to be a great closer.

    Nobody is going to duplicate Mo’s numbers and Yankees fans like myself are very spoiled and want to compare the next guy to Mo.
    I have to try my best to avoid doing so and giving someone like Robertson a chance.

  2. luis September 4th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Doreen,

    Good point…. And sorry for the belated response… I was kind of busy… No there is no harm in checking up.. ;)

  3. luis September 4th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    WTP,

    I don´t think Drob will fail… He has saved two games already this season… But not having Mo will make a difference… Nobody will be able to fill his shoes

  4. exiledintampa September 4th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Yankees always seem to struggle against the new guy pitcher. Hope that’s not the case tonite.

  5. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    exiledintampa September 4th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    Yankees always seem to struggle against the new guy pitcher. Hope that’s not the case tonite.
    ——————————————————————–
    I don’t think that is true anymore. Sure that stat was in play for many years, but if someone can look up the info, I think you’ll see the trend has changed for the better or
    improved greatly.

  6. axel September 4th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    I disagree with karma and sins of the father. If the Yankees will end up paying the price for A-Rod’s continued PED use, what is the price every other team in baseball will pay? There are undoubtedly PED users on every team in baseball.

  7. Russell Munson September 4th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    You can’t say that Robertson won’t be a good closer because he doesn’t compare favorably to the best closer of all time. That’s not fair to him, and it’s not realistic.

    He can be a good closer because he gets people out. Since he’s cut down his walk rate his pitch counts are fine.

  8. mick September 4th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Those who bash Girardi for his mentioning a retirement discussion with Mo would bash him for just about anything he does.
    It’s akin to those here who when confronted take it personal and get offended for themselves or others.
    If you don’t like the tone of one’s voice here, say something.
    Don’t let anyone strongarm you into thinking their way is the only way.
    This place is not for the weak at heart.

  9. mick September 4th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    As for next years closer.
    If I were Hughes I would pitch like the demon he was in 09 out of the pen.
    He should seriously consider that role as a future Yankee and weigh it against his offers this winter.
    He could definitely be in the mix.
    Maybe start out as the setup man for Robertson and if DRob fails, move him into the closer role.

  10. jacksquat September 4th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Oh no, not a pitcher they haven’t seen, they’ve had difficulty with that in the past.

  11. Russell Munson September 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Pitch counts per appearance for Robertson:

    2010: 18
    2011: 17
    2012: 15
    2013: 15

    Pitch counts per appearance for Rivera:

    2010: 15
    2011: 14
    2012: 14
    2013: 14

  12. Russell Munson September 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    If I were Hughes I’d pitch like modern day Joba out of the pen.

  13. Tackelberry September 4th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Pitching matchups for Red Sox series:

    Thur. Nova vs. Peavy
    Fri. Pettite vs. Doubront
    Sat. Huff vs. Lackey
    Sun. Kuroda vs. Lester

  14. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Russell Munson September 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    Pitch counts per appearance for Robertson:

    2010: 18
    2011: 17
    2012: 15
    2013: 15

    Pitch counts per appearance for Rivera:

    2010: 15
    2011: 14
    2012: 14
    2013: 14
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    Thanks for posting. I like how Robertson has improved over the years.
    Look at Mo-So consistent. Damn us Yankee fans have been spoiled by his greatness.

  15. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Tackelberry September 4th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    Pitching matchups for Red Sox series:

    Thur. Nova vs. Peavy
    Fri. Pettite vs. Doubront
    Sat. Huff vs. Lackey
    Sun. Kuroda vs. Lester
    —————————————————————————————
    How ironic is it that Dempster is pitching today and will miss the entire
    4 game Yankee series

    I just hope a Yankee pitcher or two drills Ortiz or someone in that line-up as payback
    for what Dempster did to ARod.

  16. Mordot11 September 4th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Tackelberry September 4th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    Pitching matchups for Red Sox series:

    Thur. Nova vs. Peavy
    Fri. Pettite vs. Doubront
    Sat. Huff vs. Lackey
    Sun. Kuroda vs. Lester
    —————————————————————————————
    How ironic is it that Dempster is pitching today and will miss the entire
    4 game Yankee series

    I just hope a Yankee pitcher or two drills Ortiz or someone in that line-up as payback
    for what Dempster did to ARod.
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    I’d really prefer to just win the four games. As much as I want payback this is not the time to get into anything that will take the focus off of baseball. Hit Ortiz in his first Spring Training AB next year and be done with it. The only caveat to this is that if the game is a massive blowout Joba can hit someone and get suspended :)

  17. Hankflorida September 4th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    **************************************************************
    4.) Cleve Has 7 Tough Games (65 Losses) 73 65 52.899%
    Balt-1; KC-6___ 3.5 (Games Out WC)
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    Ray, I appreciate you putting the Wild Card race into the proper perspective, and your analysis of the Indians chances with 24 games to go puts a different light on the picture considering that they only have seven tough games where the Yankees have double that. Based on your analysis with 24 games to go, what do you think is the winning record for the 2nd WC.

  18. 86w183 September 4th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Really cool that games mean so much now. Thought they were really laying an egg last night. Now it’s time to pound the newbie and head to Boston with a chance to make some serious noise.

    I’m all in favor of Big Sloppi getting one in the ribs.

  19. 86w183 September 4th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Bad teams are a lot more dangerous down the stretch because they are loose and often playing more talented youngsters who were September callups. I wouldn’t worry too much about the schedule. Just follow the Mariano Duncan mantra

    We Play Today, We Win Today… Dassitt!

  20. tbone1570 September 4th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Warning Track Power says:
    September 4, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    I just hope a Yankee pitcher or two drills Ortiz or someone in that line-up as payback
    for what Dempster did to ARod.

    ***********************
    Let’s worry about winning the games first, then worry about payback.

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  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 4th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    “Let’s worry about winning the games first, then worry about payback.”

    Seriously. The Yankees have much bigger things at stake than worrying about pitching payback! When you’re the team up 5 games in the division, maybe you have that luxury. You don’t when you’re fighting for your lives.

  23. ObviousMan September 4th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Overall, there are too many negative fans on this message board. The Yankees will NOT win the rest of t heir games, even if they play out of their minds, and as soon as they lose a SINGLE game, the floodgates of negativity will open here. A real shame.

  24. ObviousMan September 4th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    I don’t know if any team has swept the Red Sox in a 4-game series this year, so expecting the Yankees to do so is outrageous. Realistically, fans need to be happy if they can just win series against good teams at home, win some of the series against good teams on the road, avoid sweeps, and sweep the bad teams. That will likely lead to a playoff qualification. People need to stop assuming the Rays and the Tribe are going to win out.

  25. mick September 4th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    OM makes a point.
    This is the true destructive force of this blog.
    Not the lack of civility.
    That could lead to true dialogue.
    If only the few with massive egos could suppress them…

  26. mick September 4th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    I find it humorous how a small clique thinks ignoring people is the answer and treat their faux outrage and leaving the blog as a panacea.

    Faulty thinking…

  27. austinmac September 4th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Luis,

    We are going to London and I have recorded your suggestions. Thanks.

    I can’t wait as we have another 100 degree day today–fortunately Fahrenheit. :)

  28. RayVT September 4th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Hankflorida September 4th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    I think the Yankees have a very very good chance to get a WC slot. Cleveland has an easier schedule but their team isn’t as good either. I think Cleveland is a year away from truly competing in their division & at WC. I think Cleve loses some easy games. (Remaining Games for Cleve 12 Home & 10 Away)

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  29. Russell Munson September 4th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    “I don’t know if any team has swept the Red Sox in a 4-game series this year, so expecting the Yankees to do so is outrageous.”

    The Red Sox have not had a 4 game losing streak this year. They have had 5 different 3 game losing streaks.

    They were swept in one 3-game series this year.

    I think 3 out of 4 is the best we can hope for.

  30. Shame Spencer September 4th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    86w183 September 4th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Really cool that games mean so much now.

    —————

    I actually brought this up in July when I thought we were dead in the water… I think perhaps I was talking about it with Doreen.. but the one good thing that has come from this season is every game since then has felt do-or-die.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 4th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    “I disagree with karma and sins of the father. If the Yankees will end up paying the price for A-Rod’s continued PED use, what is the price every other team in baseball will pay? There are undoubtedly PED users on every team in baseball”

    Are there? You know this to be true? Of course you don’t. But I accounted for that possibility by saying that things could wash themselves out or perhaps those teams with the greatest numbers will suffer the greatest defeat. Who knows.

    The beauty in karma is that it doesn’t have to happen in predictable fashion. So the Sux could be on the very verge of winning something extremely important and have it ripped away at the very last second.

    I assume the baseball gods know how to figure those things out. They have the big scorecard and know who’s been roiding and who hasn’t.

    I always felt that the Tigers were going to have to pay for Kenny Rogers and his postseason pine tar shenanigans.

    What you put out, you get back. Easy peasy.

  32. Shame Spencer September 4th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    With the way some of our pitchers are throwing we might hit people by accident anyway lol.

    But forget about the Red Sox series for now.. we have a sweep to complete.

  33. RayVT September 4th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Boston is due to lose 4 games in a row!

  34. Shame Spencer September 4th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    If we are looking ahead to the Sox series, someone needs to advise me on pizza options for Sunday. The power of the cheesesteak has worked twice and disappointed on a third occasion.

  35. RayVT September 4th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Play today! Win today! Repeat!

  36. luis September 4th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Shame,

    Digiorno… It´s not delivery it´s Digiorno! ;) Kidding

    Mac,

    Nice… And in Paris you have to go to “Láttelier du Joel Rabouchon”… Very expensive, but worth the price…

  37. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Russell Munson September 4th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    “I don’t know if any team has swept the Red Sox in a 4-game series this year, so expecting the Yankees to do so is outrageous.”

    The Red Sox have not had a 4 game losing streak this year. They have had 5 different 3 game losing streaks.

    They were swept in one 3-game series this year.

    I think 3 out of 4 is the best we can hope for.
    —————————————————————————————————-
    I will take a split in this series. Sox are in 1st place and getting a split in the series would almost seem like a win.
    Losing the series of course would guarantee losing ground on the teams ahead of
    the Yankees.

  38. 86w183 September 4th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    The baseball Gods don’t give a crap about steroids. If they did (and they don’t exist, but for existential reasons humor me) the SF Giants would not have won the World Series twice in three years after their long term enabling of Barry Bonds.

    I don’t believe things happen for a reason… other than someone made it happen.

  39. Shame Spencer September 4th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    ‘Digiorno’ is a bad word where I come from!!

    This place has been really dead lately. If I can’t count on you guys to get me out of doing my job, who can I count on for anything in this world?!

    I hope everyone knows the powers at be on Lohud don’t care about the number of comments but the number of page views… I’m picturing randy not posting in protest, but reloading the page every 15 minutes. :P

  40. luis September 4th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    I agree Shame! I am from italian ancestry, and that´s not pizza! ;)

    Seriously though, you can´t dismiss what has happened lately… I´ll say one thing though, last night was a blast from the past

  41. mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    I’m picturing randy not posting in protest,
    =====================
    In protest of what?
    People not agreeing with him?

  42. RayVT September 4th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Hello Trisha!

    I’m sorry but I don’t follow the Karma issue. There is no direct correlation of Karma = Reaction.

    For the Yankees’ simplistically there are 25-40 man roster so the Karma+ & Karma- would have to be tabulated. Also does a good deed offset a bad one 1 for 1 or is there some kind of factor? Does Jeter offset ARod? Or does Mo Offset the the whole team? Does Cashman’s issues offset all of the good? etc.

    I have never believed in Karma. Sure I respect good deeds & see the impact of both good & bad deeds. Quite often the bad deed results in good & vice versa.

    I truly believe in Romans 5:20,21 which basically says we all have sinned/failed/whatever & God is sufficient for all of our issues.

    So I’m basically passing thru for my 100 years ± 50 years to head towards an eternity of eternity which is far greater than the 5 to 10 Billion year old earth.

    Karma IMO is a replacement for a trust in God to know best.

  43. Wave Your Hat September 4th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Some things happen for a reason, while other things don’t.

  44. luis September 4th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Wise words Ray…

  45. mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Was it karma that Doreen’s post disappeared?

  46. mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Wow! My bad. That was trishas post and it’s still there. Why did I think it was Doreen’s?

  47. Hankflorida September 4th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

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    Ray, reality sucks as the Indians schedule cannot be any easier, and somtimes it is not how good you are but who you play. My predication was that the Yankees need 18 more games in the win column to clintch the 2nd WC, but after looking at Cleveland’s schedule, I hope that is enough.

  48. luis September 4th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Hank,

    Usually bad teams play the role of spoilers in September… The indians lost Masterson I believe… We have a chance, but we need to keep winning… a nice sweep today would be great

  49. RayVT September 4th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Hankflorida September 4th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    So true Hank! Also who is pitching on who you play. Like the CWS games if they somehow miss Sale then it is even easier yet if they get him twice it is harder. I still like the Yankees’ chances as they are playing very good right now.

  50. blake September 4th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    “I hope everyone knows the powers at be on Lohud don’t care about the number of comments but the number of page views… I’m picturing randy not posting in protest, but reloading the page every 15 minutes. :P

    lol

  51. mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Could be the Indians have played over their heads all season or their record is the result of a weak division?

    They look like a 500 team to me.

  52. mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    This place is about quality, not quantity.

  53. RayVT September 4th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

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    While the Yankees have some difficult games there is no West Coast Trip. All the games are somewhat local except the 3 in Houston to end the season.

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    Five more games on West Coast & then a bunch of difficult Home games & a trip to Minn & back home for Tx & Balt & then on road yet again (3 road trips & 4 counting the one they are on) to Yanks & Toronto. Very tough schedule!

  54. mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Good job on the comparisons Ray…

  55. luis September 4th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Anybody knows how good is this kid that will pitch for the WS?

    Those numbers are impressive if you ask me

  56. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    mick September 4th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
    Could be the Indians have played over their heads all season or their record is the result of a weak division?

    They look like a 500 team to me.
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    And their best pitcher, Masterson, is scheduled to miss his next start after suffering
    a rib injury

  57. Melkmanisinhotlanta September 4th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Mariano will retire. The deal with the devil expires midnight. In November

  58. Giuseppe Franco September 4th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Trisha,

    This is a free country so naturally people are entitled to believe in anything they want but I’m not getting the whole “karma” thing.

    I seem to recall you telling me early in the season that you believe the Yanks were going to be the beneficiary of good karma and the baseball gods would reward Mo with another WS ring this season.

    Now, you seem to be backtracking and suggesting that perhaps they won’t have good karma because of A-Rod.

    So what happened in the last few months? Did the baseball gods change their mind?

    If the baseball gods are powerful enough to prevent a team from winning the WS because of alleged PED use then wouldn’t they be powerful enough to already know about his PED use before the rest of us mere mortals found out through leaks from the media?

    It’s not my intention to get into any discussion of faith because this isn’t the place for it. But I’m not sure karma can and does explain why one teams wins and another doesn’t.

    Maybe the answer is simply that the team that won probably got hot at the right time and played better than everyone else.

    I’m not sure any other MLB fanbase would argue that 9 years without a WS championship is a “drought.”

    Ask Chicago Cub fans what the definition of a WS drought is.

  59. Melkmanisinhotlanta September 4th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Girardi might be able to squeeze a year out of Mo but it would be painful to watch Mo become average.

  60. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Melkmanisinhotlanta September 4th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    Girardi might be able to squeeze a year out of Mo but it would be painful to watch Mo become average.
    ———————————————-
    Mo is not coming back. The man has too much class to change his mind after accepting
    gifts from teams and speaking with members of the organization to thank them personally for their hard work & dedication to the game.

  61. Madrugador September 4th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    The Yanks always seem to have trouble with pitchers they have never faced. That and the fact that they really aren’t hitting (except for taking advantage of one or two WS pitchers) gives me cause for concern.

  62. Melkmanisinhotlanta September 4th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Aroid mught convince Mo to come back. Who knows?

  63. RhapsodyInBlue September 4th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    I’m not worried.

    I think the kid will have YS jitters.

  64. mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Why did Mo get testy when Sweeny asked him if he might come back?
    Could it be he thinks he made a mistake?
    It’s impossible at this point, he would look like a fool after receiving all the gifts..
    That’s the reason Jeter will go out quietly.

  65. Giuseppe Franco September 4th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    86w183 September 4th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    I don’t believe things happen for a reason… other than someone made it happen.

    —-

    You and me both, brother.

    Bad things happen to good people everyday, and sometimes, good things happen to bad people.

    Not everything is black and white.

  66. Warning Track Power September 4th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Toronto Blue Jays slugger Jose Bautista has been ruled out for the remainder of the season because of his injured hip.

    Is he a PED user???

  67. luis September 4th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    GF,

    Chicago is paying Al Capone´s deeds and the excesses committed during the prohibition! ;)

  68. mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    I can see Mo taking a year off though and if the Yanks need him come back in 2015.

  69. luis September 4th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    And the Black Sox!

  70. Giuseppe Franco September 4th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    I don’t think there’s any chance Mo comes back.

    I have no doubt he will miss the game and being around his extended family in that clubhouse.

    But the man made his decision and he’s not going to change his mind.

  71. mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Chicago is paying Al Capone´s deeds and the excesses committed during the prohibition!
    ==============
    Snark toward Trisha.
    Hypocrite.

  72. Madrugador September 4th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Jose Bautista a PED user? No, no one knew that.

  73. mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    But the man made his decision and he’s not going to change his mind.
    ========
    So did Andy.

  74. luis September 4th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    It´s a joke you idiot… Not a snark… Get it?

  75. Wave Your Hat September 4th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Since the definition of PEDs is essentially arbitrary and socially defined, wouldn’t this view of karma render it at the service of those who make the rules?

    Or to put it another way, I am uncomfortable with karma being at the mercy of Bud Selig.

  76. mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    It´s a joke you idiot… Not a snark… Get it?
    ===============
    Typical copout.
    Civility? Go look it up…

  77. Giuseppe Franco September 4th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    luis September 4th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    GF,

    Chicago is paying Al Capone´s deeds and the excesses committed during the prohibition! ;)

    ——

    You would think that the baseball gods are powerful enough to overturn that damn billy goat curse!

  78. Giuseppe Franco September 4th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    luis September 4th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

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    So did Andy.

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    Mo is not Andy.

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    Mo has been on his farewell tour all season. He probably would have retired after last season had he not torn his ACL.

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    That’s all I’m going to say!

  81. mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    I am not convinced Mo is 100% certain, he did the right thing.
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    Mo has shown none…

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    mick September 4th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    I am not convinced Mo is 100% certain, he did the right thing.
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    They go out when there is a decline.
    Mo has shown none…
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    I am convinced Mo wanted to retire after the 2012 season.

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    Mo has shown none…

    ——

    As we’ve witnessed his entire career, Mo is not like everyone else.

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    Anybody who thinks Mo is going to return in 2014 or beyond is a fool
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    Beyond that, not as much.

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