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Pregame notes: “It’s tearing him up inside”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 08, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter

Today’s lineup was posted later than usual, and Joe Girardi’s pregame press conference was pushed back about a half hour. The reason: Girardi was talking to several players — most notably Derek Jeter — to explain today’s lineup decisions.

Jeter will sit at least two days, today and tomorrow, while the Yankees try to rest a sore left ankle that’s clearly affected Jeter the past few games. Jeter has not complained, but he’s acknowledged some lingering soreness, and despite a clean CT scan, the Yankees want to give him a chance to rest.

“Probably his worst (season) ever for him,” Girardi said. “To have to live through this — and you can probably go back to when he started when he was six years old — because he loves to be out there and he loves to compete. And this is the time that he probably loves being out there more than any. It’s been difficult.”

Girardi indicated that Jeter did not put up much of a fight about the Yankees decision to have him on the bench for two crucial games when the Yankees are fighting to hold onto their slim playoff hopes.

“He understands,” Girardi said. “I know he’s frustrated and he wants to be out there. It’s tearing him up inside. As much as he doesn’t like it and he wants to be out there, I think he understands our point of view about trying to give it a couple of days to calm down. … My hope is that after a few days it calms down and we can get him back out there. You’ve got to really go day by day is what you do with him and I know there’s not a lot of days left. There’s only 20 days left basically until the playoffs. So you go day by day and you just make a decision every day.”

Brett Gardner, Ryan Lavarnway• Ichiro Suzuki is a career .341/.357/.488 hitter against Jon Lester. Curtis Granderson is a career .281/.361/.500 against Lester. Brett Gardner is a career .182/.250/.182 hitter against him. That’s why Gardner is out of the lineup today. “We looked at some matchups against this guy,” Girardi said. “The other lefties have hit him pretty good. I told Gardy today, you’ve got to be ready at any point.”

• Shawn Kelley is available out of the Yankees bullpen today. Dave Robertson and Boone Logan are not.

• Girardi on the status of Robertson and Logan: “I think they feel better but we’re not to the point where we’re going to play catch yet.” I saw Robertson only briefly this morning. Did not see Logan.

• So far, David Huff is still scheduled to start Thursday’s series finale in Baltimore. “We haven’t made any changes,” Girardi said.

• Also no changes to the roster today. So far, anyway. The past two games, the Yankees have added a new reliever just hours before first pitch. Today’s lineup card had the same names as yesterday.

• Just a random conversation from the clubhouse this morning: Austin Romine was raving about the movement on Brett Marshall’s two-seamer and cutter yesterday. Said the movement was significant, better than he’d seen from anyone in a while. Romine and Marshall are close friends — long-time spring training roommates — so I’m not sure Romine’s the most objective judge, but Romine is really high on Marshall’s potential if he can command those two pitches with a good changeup and slider.

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41 Responses to “Pregame notes: “It’s tearing him up inside””

  1. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:20 pm


    Haven’t read any posts yet (just getting in) but I’ll tell you what bothers me. There is no question Ortiz is juicing. Yesterday even one of my brothers acknowledged it and he’s a staunch Sux fan. My nephew was trying to say that Ortiz was clean because he had 20 homers when he was with Minny – something like that – and my brother interjected and said “Mike, remember what I told you. It’s not what he’s doing now, it’s the age.” And my nephew said “Oh yeah” and that was the end of it. My brother had been asking me what I thought about Arod, etc.

    It’s painful to see him get away with it and to see how he’s protected. It’s painful knowing that Selig intentionally turns a blind eye to any and all goings-on at fenway. It really makes me sick. It’s painful to see Ortiz – and other Sux players?- rake and to see them be able to continue to progress because of it, knowing that their “career years” are likely happening because of milkshake concoctions that they are able to consume freely.

    That’s all.

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    “We should have won all the games if we just had out scored them.”

    Or outpitched them? 9 runs isn’t too shabby. This isn’t football.

  3. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:23 pm


    Do you not need any evidence to make accusations? You accuse Ortiz, Chris Davis and who else do you libel with no proof. Express your opinion, but let’s be clear, it is not based by any facts in the past ten years.

    I would love for Ortiz to be shown to be dirty, but until he is, one cannot express his use as fact.

  4. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Or out pitched them. I tire of excuses.

  5. Hankflorida September 8th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    As it stands now, Tampa is bleeding after Seattle with a tough schedule, and the Yanks and the O’s have no walk in the park. Cleveland sits in the catbird seat with only the Royals as the only paper opponents who may give them trouble, and Francona has been through the wars and knows how to close the deal. Even if the bullpen was in tact, this would be a tall order for the Yankees to get to the one game playoff. Before the Wild Card and when the Yanks were out of contention, this would be the time for the farm kids to make their appearance and show their stuff, but we have watched the coming attractions for most of this injury plagued season and our September call ups started in April.

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    Uh randy – you’re not being rude. You’re asking a question. When I’ve referred to the statistics, I’ve often said pitching and defense. When I referred to the articles, I believe I said pitching and defense. And when I said you had agreed, I believe I said pitching and defense. I will go back and look.

  7. RhapsodyInBlue September 8th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    I agree Trisha, our opinions of Alex aside, to watch Ortiz to continue to play at the level he does and to juice and to be idolized by the fans and media is disturbing.

    I am hoping at some point even if it is after he leaves the game that he will be exposed in a later revelation or investigation.

    And yes there is a double standard when it comes to Arod and Ortiz.

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “I tire of excuses”

    Isn’t “reason” a better word than “excuse”?

  9. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    This pitching vs. hitting argument is moronic. One team needs to out score the other, whether it is 1-0 or 8-7. During the middle months of the year, they pitched well and lost. Lately, they have hit well and lost. Guess what, a good team must do both.

    Why so much time is spent arguing over this is beyond me. It has gone from an argument over baseball to an incessant argument trying to prove oneself correct. Both sides.

    Next year if the Yankees pitching stinks, they will lose. If their hitting stinks, they will lose. Is that really so difficult to understand?

  10. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    The reason the Yankees lose or win is generally decided by who plays the best. That is the reason. Saying if only we hadn’t let them score or of only we had scored more is like saying if my uncle was a woman he would be my aunt. The games are played, scores are kept. The scores tell the truth.

  11. RayVT September 8th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Yanks September 8, 2013
    0.) Boston Has 13 Tough Games (57 Losses) 87 57 60.417%
    NYY-4; Balt-6; TB-3
    0) OAK Has 3 Tough Games (60 Losses) 82 60 57.746%
    0.) Texas Has 13 Tough Games (61 Losses) 80 61 56.738%
    Oak-3; KC-3; TB-4; Pitt-3 0.5 (Games Out 1st Place)
    1.) TB Has 14 Tough Games (64 Losses) 77 64 54.610%
    Boston-3; Balt-4; NYY-3; Tex-4 8.5 (Games Out 1st Place)
    2.) Balt Has 14 Tough Games (65 Losses) 76 65 53.901%
    TB-4; NYY-4; Boston-6___ 9.5 (Games Out 1st Place) 1 (Games Out WC)
    2.) Cleve Has 6 Tough Games (65 Losses) 76 65 53.901%
    KC-6 1 (Games Out WC)
    4) NYY Has 11 Tough Games (67 Losses) 75 67 52.817%
    Boston-4; Balt-4; TB-3 11 (Games Out 1st Place) 2.5 (Games Out WC)
    5) KC Has 13 Tough Games (68 Losses) 74 68 52.113%
    Det-4; Tex-3; Cleve-6; 3.5 (Games Out WC)
    It still isn’t over, but the ship needs to be righted very quickly!

  12. randy l. September 8th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    “I’m constantly amazed at your nerve.”


    it’s a combination of low impulse control caused by lack of blood flow to prefrontal cortex caused by too many concussions combined with the belief you have to get near the action sometimes to maybe make something happen.

    sometimes that’s a person. sometimes a place. or an event.

    opportunity knocks when you least expect it . buckminster fuller used to say you have like 90 seconds to act on an idea or it goes back into oblivion. woody allen said 90% of success was just showing up.

    so i try to act and show up when opportunity knocks.

    a few days ago a guy i taught beach volley ball almost 25 years ago showed up at my business and asked me if i wanted to play the next day down at the beach with the other guys i had taught when they were teenagers. i haven’t played at all in like 15 years. it turns out they’ve been playing all that time down there at the beach. i haven’t seen them in all those years.

    a side thing was that a network news guy who’s won 19 emmys was playing with them. turns out he’s been playing with them for years when he vacations here. anyway in keeping with my ideas about seizing opportunity i went and played. it was great reconnecting with the kids i taught. they’re 40 ish now.

    at one point during the games me and the news guy beat the top two younger players. at that point we switched it up because it’s kind of embarrassing to get beat by two players whose ages add up to 130 . not that i mentioned that ten times to them :)

    it was fun and interesting. i like to meet interesting people. that’s one way to learn stuff. of course most of the time they’re not interested in meeting me :)
    it helped that i probably played more beach volleyball that all 6 people out there combined.

    also i should mention i’m walking like mickey rivers today. two groin pulls. not one. two.i am out of commission for at least a week :)

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    austin – let me put it this way to you. My guesses to this point have turned out to be good ones. You are absolutely correct that I don’t have any hard-core evidence that Ortiz is juicing. However, IMO only the least observant person walking this earth wouldn’t be absolutely convinced that Ortiz is juicing, based on the totality of circumstances. Sux fans calling in to WEEI laugh about it all the time. So do the broadcasters.

    Tar once said that he is not uncomfortable watching Arod play because he believes that for the last 20 years every game he’s watched has had juicers in it. While that’s a very tough call in terms of numbers, he’s basically going on the same thing.

    Oh yeah – as long as it’s Sunday, let me confess to a past transgression. I “libeled” Manny AND Ortiz long before any proof came out that they were juicers. Let’s just say that I’m a damned good guesser, eh?

  14. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    I will miss you G. love and your reasoned thoughts. Reasoning. Go figure.

  15. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:39 pm


    Express opinion, fine. Express them as fact and you are wrong by every standard I know.

    People who act as they are all knowing, make me nervous.

    You are much more pleasurable to deal with when you discuss and not get on your self aggrandizing soap box.

  16. randy l. September 8th, 2013 at 12:40 pm


    after the season is over we can look closely at pitching/defense/ offense debate.

    the reason the issue is important is that cashman is trading pitching and applying resources to pitching at the expense of offense.

    i do not see the stellar defense that would cut down on runs. the yankees look to me to be a pretty mediocre defensive team.

    when i say i put most of my money on everyday players i’m claiming defense too in addition to offense.

    you ‘re saying you’re claiming defense to go with your pitching.

    so the debate gets focused in a bit. it’s not just pitching we’re talking about.

    defense goes with everyday players , so that’s going to take to discussion how that factors in to your pitching comes first ideas.

  17. exiledintampa September 8th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Dam’n G. Love. You’re one of the reasons I first got attracted to LoHud. Will miss you and agree with you.

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    G. Love –

    I’ve never posted as a multiple. So that alone let’s me know that the rest of your accusations and observations are whack-a-doodle.

    I’m personally happy to see you go. I guess your self-admitted problem with Yankee losses (and this season in particular) is such that you are no longer in any kind of control of your fragile emotions.

    I hope you get the help you need.

  19. yankeefeminista September 8th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    G. Love, please don’t go. We need you. I am on my iphone, and at a football game, so I cant go into more detail now. But please get my email from Chad, so that we can keep in touch. Go Yanks!

  20. exiledintampa September 8th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    The ignor button. An idea whose time is long overdue.

    Randy I. said it best. “You don’t even know what you don’t know.”

  21. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    Girardi’ comments or non-comments about Jeter are concerning. When asked about his future, he said Jeter would never concede. He doesn’t seem to express confidence.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    “The games are played, scores are kept. The scores tell the truth.”

    I guess Joe West’s calls don’t factor in at all. (use that as a generic statement)

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    exiledintampa – whatever. I certainly don’t need to explain myself to you, I don’t particularly care what you think about my posts, and I’m not going to allow myself to be used as a tennis ball in any nasty match today.

  24. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    Or the wrong call of Wells at third. Did you see the game?

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    austin, not for anything, but you spent the entire season lamenting the lack of offense. So now that there’s abundant offense, your story is that it’s still not enough and that’s why the Yankees didn’t win? Okay, have it your way.

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    “Or the wrong call of Wells at third. Did you see the game?”

    No, but I read the back and forth here and the consensus seemed to be that it was the right call. Are you saying that it wasn’t?

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock September 8th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    GLove sighting!!!!

    Miss ya buddy!

    And you knocked that sucker out of the park, baby!

    Win it Yanks for GLove and Jeter – two great Yankees!

    Back to the pressmen debacle before me

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Again, austin, that was a generic statement. We certainly know that scores can easily be questioned based on bad calls and horrific behind-the-plate calling. But what we are left with is the final score, because it’s all that we have. Right?

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock September 8th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Pregame. Feel like I’m in ancient Rome

  30. DONNYBROOK September 8th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Girardi should have been running A-Rod out there daily and DH’ing Jeet. This is why Girardi needs to go. The guy ain’t got a hair on his butt, and just takes orders from above. In-Game? It’s auto-pilot.

  31. Against All Odds September 8th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    I’ll miss G Love too.

  32. Niblick September 8th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Right on, G!

  33. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 1:01 pm


    I lamented the lack of offense when they were at league bottom in offense. That is logical. A team needs both. That is factual. To think otherwise is illogical and mistaken.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Yes, it is logical.


  35. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    But it is not logical to see 9 runs on the board and say that the reason the team lost is that they didn’t score enough runs (as a question of sufficient offense…)

  36. randy l. September 8th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    you know what. i was trying to take the high road but it gets old.

    i’m going to back you up on this one G. Love.

    i agree with everything you said.

    i’m out of here too. done.

    i’m networked in with a few people like pat m on the blog
    email me at if you want the connections.

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    And as an aside, the way G. Love feels about me is the way I feel every time I see “Pruf’s” name appear. I won’t enumerate because I choose not to violate the TOS.

    The difference is that I won’t allow it to run me away from the forum.


  38. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    What we have left is the final score and the standings. Bad calls go both ways over the year as do bloop hits. At the end of the year, I will assume it works out. If it is just when we win the pennant, and it is just when we don’t. Irritating, but we didn’t win enough.

  39. austinmac September 8th, 2013 at 1:07 pm


    Has anyone ever said the pitching wasn’t awful yesterday and the prime reason we lost? Of course, it was.

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    austin – it’s all we have. No other way to look at it, unfortunately.

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