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A-Rod batting second in Baltimore

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 09, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Zoilo Almonte is here and on the lineup card. Also, both David Huff and Phil Hughes are listed as available relievers. Only four players listed as starters.

Brett Gardner CF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Alfonso Soriano LF
Curtis Granderson DH
Eduardo Nunez SS
Lyle Overbay 1B
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Austin Romine C

LHP CC Sabathia

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142 Responses to “A-Rod batting second in Baltimore”

  1. Rich K. September 9th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    i like arod in the 2 spot! we are gonna put up 7 runs tonight

  2. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    I’ve been calling for Alex in the two hole. His OBP. is .380 somthing. His diminished power isn’t doing anything in the middle of the order.

  3. GregD September 9th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
    I’ve been calling for Alex in the two hole. His OBP. is .380 somthing. His diminished power isn’t doing anything in the middle of the order.

    ———–
    I think it’s a good call too

  4. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Joe G has reached Nirvana, righty after lefty through the entire order.

  5. jacksquat September 9th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Pitchers needing to know their role is BS.

    Here’s what I tell them: “Your role is to pitch when called upon.”

  6. jacksquat September 9th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Tom Ichiro after Overbay.

  7. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    js,
    Damn, how did I (and Joe) miss that?

  8. 4TrainNorth September 9th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Read today that we have, like, a 5% chance of making the playoffs, according to Baseball Prospectus. Disheartening, but sounds about right. Wonder how much a sweep of the O’s would change that number. Biggest game of the year so far here for CC. Can’t afford to start another losing streak.

  9. Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    With four starters and everyone else on call in the bullpen, it sounds like Giradi is taking out a page from Billy Martin’s playbook. Playing each game as it is the last.

  10. 4TrainNorth September 9th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Does anyone think Brian Roberts will reclaim his mantle as a Yankee killer this series? I know he’s older and coming off a series of injuries, but I used to hate watching that guy. He was like a proto-Pedroia or something.

  11. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    Warning Track Power, I agree with you about our starting pitching, but I was bringing up Billy Martin’s way of managing where he used pitchers almost every day in order to win especially in September when everything was on line as a contrast to the way Giradi and most managers handle pitchers today. Unlike Billy, Giradi does think of tomorrow and ruining pitcher’s arms so he is limited to the way he uses the best of his lot in order to win.
    ——————————————
    Correct.
    Billy wore out the arms without concern for the next game, while Girardi does a great job
    of knowing how is available/unavailable and which arm can use a day off to rest up.

    The Yankees pen was severely limited this weekend, especially on Sunday, so Girardi
    had no choice but to give Mo 2 innings.
    Again, I’m not concerned about the blown save because the fly ball is an easy out in every other MLB Park.

  12. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Machado with 48 freakin doubles and only 21 years old. What’s the record? Wish we had a Machado.

  13. 4TrainNorth September 9th, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Doubles by rookies:

    Johnny Frederick Brooklyn Dodgers (52) in 1929
    Fred Lynn Boston Redsox (47) in 1975 AL

    I thought Machado would destroy the 52, but he’s cooled off a bit. I think he had 47 doubles at the AS break.

  14. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Machado with 48 freakin doubles and only 21 years old. What’s the record? Wish we had a Machado.
    —————————————————————-
    Machado has 48 doubles
    1 in July
    7 in August
    2 in Sept
    Is 7-35 in Sept

  15. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    Pitchers needing to know their role is BS.

    Here’s what I tell them: “Your role is to pitch when called upon.”

    Hear, hear. As someone said on the radio this morning, when you hear Joba Chamberlain’s name announced you know one thing…the Yanks are losing the game!

  16. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Thanks 4train and WTP that puts it in perspective. Hope he doesn’t heat up this week.

  17. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    Pitchers needing to know their role is BS.

    Here’s what I tell them: “Your role is to pitch when called upon.”

    Hear, hear. As someone said on the radio this morning, when you hear Joba Chamberlain’s name announced you know one thing…the Yanks are losing the game!
    —————————————————–
    What a fool believes!!!

    Any decent manager will have designated rolls for their pitching staff.
    The only time that scenario does not come into play is probably the playoffs or WS.

  18. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Still wish we had a Muchado.

  19. 4TrainNorth September 9th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    I wonder how many Nunies = one Machado. I think something like 2.3.

  20. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
    Still wish we had a Muchado.
    ——————————————————–
    We have Cano

  21. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Machado’s WAR is 6.5. What’s Nunie’s?

  22. Giuseppe Franco September 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    It appears I missed one helluva mess yesterday.

    I was occupied with football all day so I can’t be blamed for this one.

  23. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    WTP

    I think you mean designated “roles.”

    The designated “rolls” are the ones that Job has been eating for the past two years, hence his appearance.

  24. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    WTP – That’s what’s scary. I guy in our division with Cano upside who can play SS.

  25. 4TrainNorth September 9th, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    Yikes: -2.0. I don’t even know how to do that kind of math. I think it means that the more Nunies you have, the farther away you get from equaling a Machado.

  26. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    Speaking of WAR, I read over the weekend that
    Joe Morgan had a WAR of 11.0 + 9.5 when he won his 2 MVP’s while
    playing for Reds in the mid 70′s.

  27. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    WTP,
    How’d they figure defense in the 70s? They still can’t do it in the 2010s.

  28. Mordot11 September 9th, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    Zoilo!!!

  29. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
    WTP,
    How’d they figure defense in the 70s? They still can’t do it in the 2010s.
    —————————————————–
    Tomi
    Don’t ask me. I read the info. I didn’t write it.

  30. RhapsodyInBlue September 9th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    GF

    A couple of posts was all you missed. Actually I’ve seen much worst on other blogs.

    Beyond me why anyone would leave because of another poster.

    Can one person really makes things that unbearable? it’s only one opinion.

    Not like we’re using live ammo here.

  31. RhapsodyInBlue September 9th, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    I like this lineup.

    But I think Reynolds because of his past history with Baltimore will deliver some big hits in this series.

  32. saucY September 9th, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    Went to my first game at YS since 2009 yesterday (guess i’m getting old and lazy with this whole go to the stadium from a few hours away thing). Good times. But it really hit me how much I miss the old stadium, while I was in awe of all the new stuff last time I was there… :/

  33. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Defensive metrics seem subjective to me. If your CF covers a lot of ground, does that make the left fielder look worse? Or do they draw some imaginary zones to cover, and if so, what about how hard the ball is hit? Would you and I have the same results watching and grading the same game?

    What am I missing?

  34. chicken_stanley September 9th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
    Defensive metrics seem subjective to me. If your CF covers a lot of ground, does that make the left fielder look worse? Or do they draw some imaginary zones to cover, and if so, what about how hard the ball is hit? Would you and I have the same results watching and grading the same game?

    What am I missing?

    ——–

    Amen! Defensive metrics are a pet peeve of mine. Ball speed and trajectory are huge factors… are they really taken into consideration? If so, how accurately can they possibly be recorded?

  35. ron September 9th, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    It s carved up into several zones,and its determined by how many outs a fielder converts within those zones.

  36. Mordot11 September 9th, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    ron September 9th, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    It s carved up into several zones,and its determined by how many outs a fielder converts within those zones.
    ———————————-
    Of course they do this without taking into account positioning, pitch selection, batter tendencies, pitcher tendencies, and I’m sure other things, but you get my point.

  37. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Ron,

    Thanks. How do they consider the myriad variables? Or do they not try and believe things equalize over time?

  38. ron September 9th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    They figure every player has the same benefit of positioning,and so on.
    It is the defenders speed,instincts,routes,glove that separate the good defenders from the not as good ones,therefor converting more balls hit within their zones to outs.

  39. Bad Scooter September 9th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    This 5% chance of playoffs is BS. So in this exact same predicament the Yanks would make the playoffs 1 out of every 20 years. I think they are higher than 5%.

  40. ron September 9th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Botton line is,you put willie mays in cf,and nunez,and mays is going to convert more balls hit into a zone into outs,and that is with 2 broken legs,and blowing a 2.0 on a breath test.

  41. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    I do like AROD hitting second. He has been on base a lot without much power. This lineup is as good as we can do. Let’s score some runs, early and often.

  42. chicken_stanley September 9th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Ron – Thanks for the info. I guess zone rankings could be an ok starting point or source of additional info when elavuating defense

  43. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    ron,
    For this I need statistics?

  44. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Ron,

    I don’t doubt the metrics provide us useful information. My problem is considering these numbers the equivalent of a more objective number like the ones on offense.

    For example, it seems to me a team with a poor pitching staff is going to have more ground balls and balls in the air hit harder making the defensive players on such teams look worse.

  45. chicken_stanley September 9th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    spelling: “evaluating” – Duh

  46. chicken_stanley September 9th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Ron – I guess I have one more question (little did you know you were volunteering as resident expert :) )… are putouts the only outs tracked or are assists also part of the equation? Thanks

  47. ron September 9th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    If gardner converts 100 balls hit into the same zone as every other cf in baseball into outs when the next best cf converts 50 balls hit into that same zone into outs,who do you wan’t in cf?

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    “This 5% chance of playoffs is BS. So in this exact same predicament the Yanks would make the playoffs 1 out of every 20 years. I think they are higher than 5%.”

    I agree with you. No idea where they get that stuff! How about if all the rest of the games concerning wild-card contenders saw them matched against each other, and the Yankees were matched against nothing but last-place teams? Would the Yankees % take a wild jump?

  49. ron September 9th, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    I’m not sure about assists because I read the in debth story a while ago,but the basic explanation is that the more outs converted within a cf,or rf,lf,etc… zone,the higher the uzr.

    I’d have to re-read.

  50. chicken_stanley September 9th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Thanks Ron… I’ll do some research as well.

    As far as your previous question – normally, I would say I want Gardner in CF but I’ve been enlightened by this blog in the past few months. Even at 200-50, it can’t be Gardner – he’s a 4th outfielder! :)

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