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Girardi: “We need to take a little momentum from this”

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After that four-game series against the Red Sox. After all of the wasted opportunities. After so many letdowns by the pitching staff. After blown saves and base-running blunders and throwing errors, the Yankees are today almost exactly where they were five days ago: Still two-and-a-half games out of the second wild card, still with a chance to close the gap.

“I think we did (dodge a bullet),” Joe Girardi said. “And we need to take a little momentum from this and play well in Baltimore.”

What that long-weekend, four-game series really cost the Yankees was time and placement. There are only 19 games left to make up ground, and there are now two teams — the Indians and Orioles — standing between the Yankees and the second-wild-card-leading Rays. The Indians and Orioles are a half game ahead of the Yankees, meaning that hole could be erased tonight.

A few random thoughts heading into yet another pivotal series.

Derek Jeter, Mike Napoli• A week ago, Derek Jeter had back-to-back two-hit games. Then he had one hit in the next four games as his swing started to look worse and his movements seemed more difficult. The sample size is too small and his season too erratic to know much for certain about Jeter’s long-term status — we’ll have to find out about that next year — but it wouldn’t be surprising to see him need more than these two games off. Maybe play four or five, then take another day. I really don’t know. Just seems like he’s able to be productive in bursts, but still struggling to do it night after night. Hard to imagine him sitting out the rest of this season, though. Also hard to imagine him playing the rest of the way.

• Even after his disappointing start on Saturday, David Huff still seems like the best choice to start Thursday’s series finale in Baltimore. The Orioles have been quite a bit worse against lefties than against righties, and they’ve had some big nights against Phil Hughes this year. Brett Marshall pitched well two nights ago, but that’s not enough to push him to the front of the line coming off a down year in Triple-A. Huff seems like the guy, unless the Yankees think everyone can pitch on short rest for a turn, which seems hard to imagine with this rotation.

• Three right handers and then a lefty scheduled to start for the Orioles this series. About a week ago I liked the idea of Mark Reynolds getting some starts at first base against right handers, but Lyle Overbay’s been pretty productive lately, and he has a higher batting average against the Orioles pitching staff than against any other team this season. Might see him get the benefit of the doubt three games in row.

• Given the uncertainty of Jeter’s status — and the sudden abundance of relievers on the roster — it might make sense to bring back either Brent Lillibridge or Alberto Gonzalez. The bullpen isn’t quite as short-handed now, so the Yankees could pretty easily DFA either Matt Daley or Jim Miller to add some infield depth. Just seems goofy to play a game in September without a go-to backup shortstop, while carrying 10 healthy right-handed relievers.

• If you’re more into an offensive backup option, Cody Ransom was just designated for assignment. He slugged .449 for the Cubs this year. Just another option if the Yankees decide their infield is too thin right now.

Preston Claiborne• I can understand the desire to see Dellin Betances get more opportunities — he’d been awfully good out of the Triple-A bullpen, and he’s out of options next season — but I’m also finding it hard to blame Girardi for being reluctant to use him. Miller and Daley were also very good out of the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre pen, and frankly, Betances has been so inconsistent in his career, it’s hard to say he’s absolutely going to handle big leaguers this time around. Maybe he will — and there’s certainly reason for the Yankees to find out — but this is a tough spot to suddenly trust guys who haven’t done it before. If Joba Chamberlain were sent to Triple-A right now, his minor league numbers might very well be outstanding as well. Wanting to see Betances is one thing. Saying he’s the Yankees best option is something else.

• That said, last night was a pretty clear indication of what Girardi thinks of all his available relievers not named Mariano Rivera and Shawn Kelley. Preston Claiborne might be in that circle of trust if not for his struggles Thursday and Friday. If Kelley is the setup man right now, and Rivera is the closer, who’s your choice for the seventh inning? Mine might be Adam Warren.

• Austin Romine would have caught tonight’s game regardless of Chris Stewart’s health — Romine’s been catching CC Sabathia — but I do wonder if Stewart’s injury will force Romine to catch some other guys, leaving Girardi more open to the idea of starting his best offensive catcher a little more often down the stretch. To be clear, I don’t have a problem with the current setup of starting Stewart three out of five and using Romine as a late-inning pinch hitter, but adding playing time for Romine would certainly be interesting to watch. There’s still a curiosity factor there.

• What do the Yankees need to do in Baltimore? A sweep could be enough to grab control of the wild card, but is two out of four enough? Surely winning just one would be a devastating blow and winning three would be a positive. Are there enough games left to settle for a split?

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175 Responses to “Girardi: “We need to take a little momentum from this””

  1. Russell Munson September 9th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Re-post.

    The Indians have a joke of a schedule. They play one team that’s above .500 the rest of the year, and it’s KC who is barely above .500. They still have 6 games with the White Sox, 6 games with the Twins and 4 games with the Astros.

    We should be worried about them.

  2. Russell Munson September 9th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Sorry, 4 games with the Twins.

  3. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    I keep having to correct people.

    The O’s are a 4 game set.

    ;)

  4. Yankee Trader September 9th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Chad

    It’s four games in Baltimore, then three in Boston.

  5. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Yankee Trader.

    Very true. Something is going to have to give

    Which reminds me of something I was thinking. For a period of time there it seemed like the Yankees had a ton of off days. Now, in the final stretch of the season, they have none and none of them are rain out makeup games. I don’t know what other teams have, but I suspect at least a few must have the Sam e situation. Are the schedule makers completely out of their minds, or has MLB forced this ridiculousness by over-expansion and season-long interleaved play, plus trying to squeeze in another wild card round, even it it is “only” a one-game play-in, while still trying to end the season before the first snowfall AND keeping a 162-game schedule???

    Seems to me they cannot have their cake and eat it too.

  6. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    We really need to beat the tar out of the O’s.

    While we play them the Rays have the Sux to deal with.

    We can close the gap right now if we handle our end and the Sux help us out a little.

  7. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Sherman wrote a column this morning suggesting that Jeter could retire……saying that like Dimaggio Jeter could be too proud to keep playing once he can no longer be Derek Jeter.

    I think the opposite…..I think he’s too proud to go out like this.

  8. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Blake-

    I agree with you.

    :)

  9. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Blake, I didn’t read Sherman’s column, but, it’s likely Andy won’t be back and Mo is definitely retiring. The direction of the Yankees as a team is in question. It’s not a sure thing that they will be competing for a playoff spot next season, especially if they do not resign Cano AND don’t replace him and other players with grade A major league players.

    So, the question of Jeter retiring will probably take all that into account, together with what the exact issue with the leg is now, combined with whether he will be able to rehab and strengthen this winter without any setbacks.

    He surely doesn’t want his career to end like this, but I think if he does not believe he can be stronger next season, he might could retire. And Jeter has never been about personal goals, though he’s sure hit a few milestones along the way. So if the Yankees are not fielding a good team around him, what’s the effort for?

  10. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    I think Jeter will be just fine if he trains well this OS.

  11. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    MTU, I hope so, but the other scenario s not outside the realm of possibility.

    BTW, in catching up with yesterday’s activities here, I saw G. Love’s post. I certainly did not always agree with his views, but I appreciated the way he stated them, and the discussions they advanced.

  12. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Doreen-

    I didn’t but I’m glad G. Love is still around.

  13. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    If Jeter can’t play regularly on his ankle, and he is convinced of that, I do think he will retire. I can’t see him playing poorly on bad wheels. I hated watching Mickey go out that way. The issue is that he needs to accept it, if true.

    I expect he will work hard this winter and see where he is. It is his

  14. 86w183 September 9th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    I think Sherman is just engaging in premature speculation, which is what media people (of which I am one) do on a regular basis.

    I can see Jeter walking (limping?) away IF he doesn’t feel right physically and/or the Yankees decide to go into a full-rebuild mode and let all the FA move along with discount level or rookie replacements. for example he may not want to be part of an infield with David Adams (2B) and Eduardo Nunez (3B) playing behind a rotation that includes two rookies with two more in the bullpen.

    I get the pride thing, but leaving after an injury plagued season isn’t any worse than leaving after a .228 season is it?

  15. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    blake,
    I agree about the Joe C/Derek comparison. Joe quit because he felt he couldn’t do it any more, period, not because of a year lost to injury.

  16. Russell Munson September 9th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    “I didn’t but I’m glad G. Love is still around.”

    He’s not.

  17. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Doreen
    I do think Derek is in a tough spot…..he probably knows that the team isn’t going to be great next year if they stay on this current path…….but I can’t see him allowing this season to be his ending. I think he’ll pick up the player option and try to get healthy in 2014 and go out strong……or keep playing strong whicheve.r

  18. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    MTU,

    That was G. love’s swan song. Randy too. Many very good posters leaving. That’s a shame, but I do understand their reason.

  19. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Mac,
    yes I think he will rehab like crazy and try to get his legs strong again…..in the article he said that he thought the additional leg injuries were merely a result of him not being able to train his legs like he normally does all winter because of the ankle and that makes perfect sense.

    This guy led the league in hits last year…..I think he can still hit if he can get his legs back under him and he will try to get there……if he trains all winter and it’s still not there then I could see him calling it a career maybe.

  20. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    I think pride may cause him to walk away. Like DiMaggio, he doesn’t want people to watch a shadow of his former self. I don’t rule out a recovery, but if he doesn’t make a good one, I don’t see him limping around just to add hits.

  21. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    why did G. Love and Randy leave

  22. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Mac-

    What were their reasons if I may ask ?

  23. 86w183 September 9th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    The Mick hit .245 and .237 his last two seasons. He always regretted that those years cost him a career batting average over .300 (he finished @ .298).

    He was at .305 after the 1966 season… he was .309 after 1964.

    If only they had the DH back then he probably would have had 2-5 more productive seasons.

  24. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Those guys are bailing just when things are getting interesting ?

    Doesn’t make sense to me.

    Unless they have a crystal ball.

    Mine’s in for repairs and recalibration.

    :)

  25. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Go to the there’d right before yesterday’s game thread for GLoves post.

  26. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    ***go to the thread.

    Ratzenfratzen iPad!!

  27. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Doreen-

    Sorry I misunderstood you.

    In that case, I amend my former statement to read that I am sorry to see him go.

    And Randy too, if that’s the case.

    They both have a lot to offer FWIS.

    :(

  28. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    I just read G Loves post. He is/was one of my very favorite reads on this blog so if he’s gone that sucks. I don’t always agree with he or Randy but they are both interesting and post what they feel….and are obviously true Yankee fans.

    If this is so long G. Love then take care and we shall see you again when you are made owner of the Yankees.

  29. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    I’ll miss them both.

    I hope they reconsider.

  30. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Blake-

    You aren’t leaving are you ?

  31. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    I get annoyed with some of the posts on here at times…..but honestly there are only a handful of posters that I actually read. I’m not going to name names but if I respond to you often you know who you are……I just scroll past the rest more or less unless I’m extremely bored (which isn’t that often anymore).

  32. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    They both have the same reason. Trisha.

    Jeter led the league in hits before two broken ankles. I don’t worry about muscle pulls. Ankle pain he currently is having is another matter.

  33. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    MTU,
    nah I’m not leaving but I don’t post as much as I used to…..I just don’t have as much time and I also don’t have as much to say…..everything has been said a million times at this point.

  34. Yankee Trader September 9th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    On Phil Hughes- Is he really a bust?

    “When compared with similar draft picks, Hughes’ Yankee career doesn’t seem so nightmarish. From 2002 through 2006 there were 25 pitchers taken with picks 20-29, including Hughes, who the Yankees selected with the 23rd pick of the 2004 draft. Of those 25, eight never threw a pitch in the majors and four more – Kyle Waldrop, Aaron Thompson, Taylor Tankersley and Bryan Morris – haven’t gained traction for much more than a cup of coffee. David Aardsma, Chad Cordero, Craig Hansen, Daniel Bard and Joey Devine were relievers who had their careers derailed by injury, ineffectiveness or both and Glen Perkins boasts a FIP over 5.00 as a starter, despite achieving success in the pen of late. That makes Hughes one of just seven legitimate big league starters extracted from picks in the twenties over five drafts. While Matt Cain, Matt Garza and Chad Billingsley have all fared considerably better than Hughes, his 4.31 FIP, 105 ERA- career line is comparable with the other league-average types from the group – Joe Blanton (4.23/109), Jeremy Guthrie (4.75/98) and Ian Kennedy (4.07/98).”

    http://www.pinstripedbible.com.....ll-america

  35. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    I always thought it was pretty aggressive to expect Jeter back opening day after that……those ankle injuries take time……look at Raval Santana and David Adams…..it took Adams like 2 years before he was right again and I don’t know if Santana has ever made it all the way back……and those guys are much much younger than Derek.

    I’ve said it before but the Yankees as we knew them expired when Derek’s ankle broke in the ALCS last year……the 2012 team just died and they have never fully recovered.

  36. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    I wouldn’t label Hughes a bust…..a disappointment relative to the expectations maybe….but not a bust. The guy helped win a title in 2009 as a set up guy and has won 18 and 16 games as a starter……made the all star team once. Drew Henson was a bust……I don’t think Hughes is at all.

  37. 86w183 September 9th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    I don’t get the thought process behind quitting a blog because of one poster.

    I’m sure I’ve ticked off a few people from time to time, including Randy I, but if any poster annoys me I just don’t read their tripe. If you hate Fox News or MSNBC do you throw the TV out?

    YT — GREAT post on Hughes. It’s also significant that he’s played his entire career in baseballs strongest division. His numbers are actually more impressive than the comparable numbers from Blanton, Kennedy and Guthrie because of that fact.

  38. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    86,

    I hated Mickey’s average going under .300. He could barely walk. Heroic since I bet he had a lot of pain.

  39. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    blake -

    I so agree about certain topics having nothing left to be said! LOL Those are the ones I often check out of. :)

    I also agree about Hughes – a disappointment relative to expectations, but certainly not a bust. Though this has been a hellish year for him.

  40. blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Hughes this year has really been a disappointment for me…..I really thought he was turning a corner in his career at the end of last seasonl.

  41. Yankee Trader September 9th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    It seems to me, that in order for Phil Hughes to be successful again, besides pitching in a bigger ballpark, where his numbers this year are better, is for him to develop. And trust a third pitch.
    He just mentally and physically can’t put away hitters after getting two strike 0-2 counts.

  42. Chad Jennings September 9th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Yankee Trader September 9th, 2013 at 9:03 am e

    Chad

    It’s four games in Baltimore, then three in Boston.

    Yep. Goofed that one. In my defense, I knew it was four and three when I packed, just apparently didn’t have that in my mind when I was writing. Not a great job by me.

  43. Yankee Trader September 9th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Chad

    No problem. Only a minor early morning flaw from a terrific journalist. :)

  44. 86w183 September 9th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Don’t beat yourself up Chad….. fecal matter occurs.

  45. blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    The secondary pitches have always been a problem for Hughes but his struggles this year haven’t been because of that IMO……it’s because of his fastball command or lack there of…..it’s been terrible at times this year and that was the one thing he did have in the past.

    He needs the secondary pitch he can miss bats with but he has to command the ball better or it doesn’t matter…..

  46. Chad Jennings September 9th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    blake September 9th, 2013 at 9:48 am e

    I wouldn’t label Hughes a bust…..a disappointment relative to the expectations maybe….but not a bust. The guy helped win a title in 2009 as a set up guy and has won 18 and 16 games as a starter……made the all star team once. Drew Henson was a bust……I don’t think Hughes is at all.

    Agreed Blake. For so many reasons — draft-pick hype, raw stuff, the high points of his big league career — Hughes should be better, or at least more consistent. That’s certainly the way it seems. Some of those early injuries might have screwed up some key developmental periods. The reality of pitching in New York might have pushed him to tinker when little things went wrong. Could be that his secondary stuff was never quite as good as advertised (or at least didn’t develop as expected). It’s all complicated with a pitcher like Hughes. It’s easy to call him a bust, especially after a year like this one, but that’s overstating it. He needed to come out of the rotation this year, but I don’t think it’s impossible to imagine him putting things together in the next few years and having a solid big league career for the next 10 years.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 10:08 am

    “I can understand the desire to see Dellin Betances get more opportunities — he’d been awfully good out of the Triple-A bullpen, and he’s out of options next season — but I’m also finding it hard to blame Girardi for being reluctant to use him. Miller and Daley were also very good out of the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre pen, and frankly, Betances has been so inconsistent in his career, it’s hard to say he’s absolutely going to handle big leaguers this time around. Maybe he will — and there’s certainly reason for the Yankees to find out — but this is a tough spot to suddenly trust guys who haven’t done it before. If Joba Chamberlain were sent to Triple-A right now, his minor league numbers might very well be outstanding as well. Wanting to see Betances is one thing. Saying he’s the Yankees best option is something else.”
    ///

    Chad,

    Have to disagree. I think the reason we didn’t see Betances is because Girardi was concerned that with the way Boston runs up pitch counts, a worst scenario could have played out that he might have gone full with each batter, and if he’d have had no control, to boot, then it could have been a disaster.

    I think if it had been a more aggressive team, like Baltimore, he’d have maybe used him in one or two spots.

    At least, that’s me giving Girardi the benefit of the doubt; I don’t agree with it, because Betances has such good stuff and has been, given availability in certain spots, not only their best chance to get outs, but dramatically their best option – but I think that may have been in the back of his mind.

    But the idea that his numbers may be a miL mirage doesn’t hold water: his stuff is way better than even Joba’s in terms of who Joba is right now (Joba years ago, when he was ringing batters up, I could see) in keeping with your comparison, and Miller isn’t even in the same ballpark. Betances’ problem has been control at times; and whether he faces more selective hitters, and better hitters or not, he’s got elite weapons and is a pretty uncomfortable AB. That rain interrupted outing, where he just was pumping fastballs over the plate, isn’t really representative, his last brief outing is closer to who he has been.

    It’s one thing for Girardi to cling to his “A” pen, or his “circle of trust” as you call it; but when he’s throwing guys like Miller in there, and starting Huff, worrying about Betances not being able to get out “major league hitters” can’t be considered a legitimate concern, IMO.

    Could his entering one of those games have changed the outcome? I would say, hell yes!

  48. Chambliss September 9th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    I think Jeter will retire if he seems himself hitting .220 next year and struggling to move in the field. The non-double play Thursday night was painful to watch. He barely got to the bag while avoiding Napoli.

    It is not going to be easy pulling for the Sux against the Rays, but that is what Yankee fans are forced to do at this point.

    If Cleveland wins the second wildcard and the play-in game, they will play Boston in the ALDS if Boston has the best record. That is an easy road to the ALCS for Boston.

  49. Tackelberry September 9th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    So we’ll see Tillman, Gonzalez,Feldman and Chen in Baltimore. We counterwith CC, Nova, Pettite and Huff. Is 3 out of 4 doable?

  50. blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “Could be that his secondary stuff was never quite as good as advertised (or at least didn’t develop as expected).”

    absolutely….Hughes could basically dominate minor leaguers with his fastball and sometimes breaking pitches play differently at the big league level.

    I know everyone points to that game in Texas before he hurt his hamstring etc…..but that was one game and I do think that perhaps Phil’s secondary stuff never was that great relative to the big leagues.

  51. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    I agree with all of you on Hughes.

    Not a bust by any means. Just didn’t reach his ceiling.

    Still feel he is just one pitch away and is still only 27.

    If he was cheap enough I’d retain him.

  52. Chad Jennings September 9th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:36 am e

    Those guys are bailing just when things are getting interesting ?

    Here’s my take on people leaving or saying they’re leaving or whatever it is…

    Obviously this space is not perfect. I work for a smaller paper that can’t bring in a full time moderator, so that role falls to me, and I’m not in front of a computer at all times. And because some trouble-makers know how to change IP addresses and get around our filter, annoying and offensive stuff pops up from time to time. It’s bothersome — and it’s occasionally troubling — and that might have driven away a few folks. I don’t think it’s a legitimately dangerous situation, but I get why it makes this a difficult environment from time to time. I wish I could do more — and significant things have happened and are happening behind the scenes — but ultimately it’s one person trying to disrupt everything and everyone associated with the blog. It’s a shame.

    But I also think the biggest impact of that one person is that the discussion often turns to his actions. Even when he’s not posting, or when his posts have been fairly quickly deleted, he’s able to steer the conversation. Right now, that seems to be his most enduring impact. I can understand the desire to talk about it with other posters here, but those conversations ultimately fuel and support his attempts to disrupt a good community here. Let it be my headache, but don’t let it be any more than your eye-rolling annoyance. I think that would help, if it’s doable.

    Which comes to the biggest disturbance that occurs here. Trolling only works if it legitimately steers the conversation. I don’t expect all of you to agree or get along. Hell, I don’t even WANT you all to agree or get along. This is a large community on a public blog. There are going to be smart posters, novice posters, annoying posters, aggressive posters, educated posters, quirky posters … We’re not all going to like one another. Some of you don’t like me at all — I’m really a perfectly nice guy when you get to know me — and there are some of you who drive me crazy! But surely that doesn’t mean we can’t get along. We’re adults, or at least we’re entering an adult world where grown-up actions are expected.

    You don’t like Trisha? Or Randy? Or Blake? Or Shame? Or MTU? Or whoever else? That’s OK. At some point you’ve gotten to know everyone’s personality, and the beauty of the internet is that you can roll your eyes at some one or call them a fool without actually posting it. Or, you can even read right over someone’s posts if you’ve found you don’t respect them. Even someone who posts quite often — and there are a LOT of you who post quite often (thanks for that, by the way!) — can’t really steer the conversation unless others respond to that topic. One person posting about conspiracies or three-year-old trades or random non-baseball events doesn’t determine what the rest of you talk about.

    And it’s possible to tell someone you disagree without call him or her an idiot. Or a crazy person. Or worse.

    That’s why I have a hard time banning someone just because some of you find that person annoying. If the conversation gets off track, I assume that’s because you want the conversation to be off track. Why else would you talk about that particular topic? I don’t mind if the conversation veers away from the topic of the post itself. I’m usually just providing information, not necessarily talking points. The comment section belongs to you guys. Do with it what you will. I’d prefer that my biggest role in here be to engage from time to time — most of my engagement comes in the posts themselves, obviously — and to very occasionally ban someone who clearly crosses the line.

    I hope that people don’t bail on us because of some folks you don’t particularly get along with. My belief is that you’ll find those anywhere, especially in a public forum like this one. We’re not always going to agree. We’re going to have different personalities. We’re going to approach things from different directions and with different styles. But clearly we have at least one interest in common. After that, it’s just a bunch of folks talking.

  53. blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    I don’t fault Girardi for being cautious about using Betances now……I do think perhaps they should have gotten him into games earlier this year to see what he could do.

    All those times they were running Joba out there to stink they could have tried Betances…..

  54. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Chad-

    I agree with most everything you said. And I know you have done the best you can with the resources you have available to you.

    I certainly try to follow some of your advice.

    Treat everyone with respect as much as humanly possible and throw in a touch of humor.

    I do believe the paper should have had more concern about how to handle extremely disruptive individuals.

    I disagree that no harm has been done.

    I think much harm has been done.

    And there is no question in my mind that a way should have been found to deal with it.

    Guess we’ll all just keep trying to get it right.

    I’ll help in whatever way I can for as long as I’m here.

    I think you know that.

    I guess I’m the “quirky” poster type, huh ?

    :)

  55. Chad Jennings September 9th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 10:08 am e

    It’s one thing for Girardi to cling to his “A” pen, or his “circle of trust” as you call it; but when he’s throwing guys like Miller in there, and starting Huff, worrying about Betances not being able to get out “major league hitters” can’t be considered a legitimate concern, IMO.

    Fair point. Girardi was clearly forced to go beyond his trusted guys, and that means he should have entered a world in which Betances was at least as viable as any other option. I just keep going back to what an up-and-down reliever said to me once: “I don’t know why they keep bringing me back. I’ve never pitched well in front of Joe.”

    Girardi is slow to trust, but once he trusts, that trust is lasting. It’s annoying for those of us who are especially interested in seeing younger players, but it’s also a known reality of the situation. I’ve essentially seen Betances in person the same times that Joe’s seen him in person. And even though I know about the raw stuff — seen it in person, had scouts talk to me about it — and even though I’m well aware of his bullpen success this season, I’m not sure I’d trust him in a tight spot. I’d be fascinated to see him used in one of those situations, but I couldn’t confidently say he’d be successful. I would have absolutely just as much faith in either Matt Daley or Jim Miller. I’m intrigued by what Betances could be, and I certainly think there’s a good chance he could be very good in this role, but I think there are enough lingering questions for some healthy uncertainty.

  56. Russell Munson September 9th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Betances’s first game really messed up his chances I think. Girardi seems to bring relievers along slowly and force them to earn his trust, just like Joe Torre used to do. If he had pitched well in that first game, he’d have gotten another chance. If he’d done well then, he’d have perhaps gotten to pitch in a somewhat important spot, and so on.

    Girardi does do a good job of managing his bullpen, so I’m not sure it’s fair to criticize him too much about this, but I do think he could handle breaking in unproven relievers more aggressively.

  57. blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Good post Chad….and he’s right. Trolls are only effective if you allow them to be…..don’t talk to them and their power is zapped and they usually get frustrated and go away.

    As for the blog…..I basically just respond to the people I want to talk to and skip everything else. I disagree with people a lot…..but I think it’s important here and in life to listen to opposing viewpoints and respect them within reason……

  58. 86w183 September 9th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    I’m on board with MTU. The more that can be done to “run off” truly toxic posters the better.

    As long as I don’t qualify that is!

  59. blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    The mistake with Betances was made by not getting him up sooner and using him IMO…..now that it’s crunch time they have kinda waited too long because they haven’t let him pitch and don’t know what he’ll do.

    When they moved Betances to the pen and he was dominating they should have gotten him to the big leagues ASAP and saw if that would translate…..especailly the the way Joba was pitching……they have waited all year for Joba to be better and they waited too long it seems.

  60. blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    the best way to run off toxic posters is to not talk to them…..nobody wants to talk to themselves.

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Chad, Betances’ raw stuff isn’t in some vacuum, though; he uses it effectively and intelligently to set up hitters and get them out and has done so over a large sample size this year, even in his last three starts before they converted him to the BP.

    He’s not always just overpowering hitters. The lingering question has been ‘can he repeat his delivery enough’ to take advantage of his wow arm; well ostensibly, that’s why they tanked his starter career (even though I have read that there was a split within on this) so he could have a better chance of doing so. Well, he did it and resoundingly so, so the lingering question has been answered as much as it could have been to warrant some ML spots.

    Still hasn’t happened, and now he hasn’t pitched in over a week, and the BP has crashed.

  62. Chad Jennings September 9th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Russell Munson September 9th, 2013 at 10:50 am e

    Betances’s first game really messed up his chances I think. Girardi seems to bring relievers along slowly and force them to earn his trust, just like Joe Torre used to do. If he had pitched well in that first game, he’d have gotten another chance. If he’d done well then, he’d have perhaps gotten to pitch in a somewhat important spot, and so on.

    Girardi does do a good job of managing his bullpen, so I’m not sure it’s fair to criticize him too much about this, but I do think he could handle breaking in unproven relievers more aggressively.

    We saw Preston Claiborne earn Girardi’s trust earlier this year, and Shawn Kelley certainly won Girardi’s trust in a big way. I actually think Cesar Cabral has won a little bit of trust already by at least handling lefties in his couple of opportunities. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him against Markakis or Davis in a big spot this week. For non-pitchers, we’ve seen Romine’s playing time increase significantly as he’s played better, and Brett Gardner is no longer tied to a platoon partner. Its entirely possible to earn Girardi’s trust, it just happens fairly slowly for some guys, especially when they start in a bit of a hole. And Betances — for obvious reasons — started in a hole.

  63. blake September 9th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Betances has pitched twice this year…..one good outing and one outing where he gave up 5 runs and got 2 outs and looked very nervous……

    Again I think they waited too long to throw him in to the fire and now they are aftaid of what he’ll do……at the same time they should know how what Joba is going to do so what is the risk really…..

  64. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Unfortunately, like everything in life, one or two people spoil things for everyone else.

    I’ve always enjoyed coming to this blog because I get insights and ideas about the Yankees that you cannot find in the mainstream media. Like many, I also seek solace from my fellow fans when things aren’t going so well.

    I know there are many good people here: Yankee diehards like Blake, JAP, Luis, MTU, Shame etc.

    But when I see people like G.Love say they won’t be posting any more, I question whether it’s good for my sole to be on here so often. And it’s not just the obvious culprit. There are one or two people here who insist on ramming their opinions down your throat and dominate the board when someone dares to disagree.

    Hope the LoHud doesn’t turn into a ghost town…but I fear it’s heading that way.

  65. J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Although Chad’s post is completely reasonable, I think everyone knows we’re dealing with a different animal, here.

    GLove simply has the courage to lay it on the line.

    Of course, everyone can ignore a troublemaker. But sometimes, someone has to step up and protest.

    We’re talking about someone who encouraged someone who needs professional help and who was actually trying to hurt people here by posting their private information. This does not fall under the category of “annoying” or someone to “roll eyes” at, I’m sorry.

    Flaming by reacting is an issue, no doubt, but ignoring someone who goes to those lengths and is still accepted because she’s a “regular” is being part of the problem IMO and shows you’re just waiting for someone with more courage to smack that person down.

    So I have to really say it annoys me to read people here pretending that “trolling” goes away by ignoring when clearly there is an offline orchestration to not only disrupt, but to actually hurt people who come here to post about baseball.

    GLove’s post was honest, unflinching, and IMO, right on.

    That is all.

  66. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    86-

    I didn’t mean by direct confrontation.

    I don’t want that misunderstood.

    I meant it more like Blake suggests.

    You talk to those you wish to converse with an don’t talk to those you don’t.

    I will say this. I will respond to just about anyone if they carry themselves in a civil manner and are respectful.

    I actually like the back and forth as long as it doesn’t get personal.

    That’s where things come off the rails as far as I’m concerned.

    :)

  67. Chad Jennings September 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    blake September 9th, 2013 at 10:53 am e

    The mistake with Betances was made by not getting him up sooner and using him IMO…..now that it’s crunch time they have kinda waited too long because they haven’t let him pitch and don’t know what he’ll do.

    Agreed. As JAP wrote, “the lingering question has been answered as much as it could have been” while Betances was in the minors, but the big league bullpen was so good most of the year that Betances never got his chance. Even if he had been called up to replace Joba around August or so, he would have simply fallen into that mopup roll, which wouldn’t have done anyone much good. The Yankees had their go-to guys in Mo, Robertson, Kelley and Claiborne. Betances wasn’t going to crack that group, so he kept working on things in Triple-A. But pretty soon, it was September, and the Yankees had let the entire second half go by without ever having a real place for Betances in New York (again, outside of that mopup role that might have done as much harm as good with all the time between appearances).

  68. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Or even my soul!!!

    And to think, I used to be a copy editor. 20 lashes.

  69. GregD September 9th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    I absolutely believe Girardi has to find opportunities to use Betances…….we need to find a boost somewhere………I thought Hughes might do it but his first stint was disastrous

  70. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    I used to work for someone who basically could tell me I sucked but did it in such a way that I never felt bad at the end of it.

    I was always in awe of his skill at dealing with people.

    No one I ever worked before or after was quite as good at it.

    Being tactful and polite are not weaknesses as far as I’m concerned.

    They are skills to be learned.

    Anyone can be a bull in a china shop, or tell it like it is. Takes no finesse at all.

    But all that’s left for them being dead right is a corpse in the road.

    And a much more hurtful world.

  71. blake September 9th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    I’ve almost stopped talking to MTU several times but he keeps reeling me back in with his charm.

  72. pat September 9th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Interesting….

    newsdaymarcus
    #A-Rod appeal: Arbitrator’s written explanation after decision will be sealed, per JDA, source says.

    I hope those on hiatus will decide to rejoin. I’ve found that typing a response to something annoying and then deleting it without posting it makes me feel better without having to subject the rest of you to my angst. The Internet version of “biting your tongue”.

  73. blake September 9th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    I think the situation with Dellin is what it is this year……but going forward I think they really need to throw him as much as possible this spring and early in the 2014 season to see what he is. Mo is gonna be gone…..Robertson will be a FA after next year……Betances has a big arm and they need to find out who he is as quickly as possible.

  74. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Really Blake ?

    I didn’t know I had hurt your feelings at any time as I never meant to.

    You’re one of my favorite people.

    So if I offended you without malice on my part I deeply apologize.

    I consider you a friend.

    I hope you will accept my apology.

    And the same goes for anyone else I may have inadvertently harmed.

    I think you all know I don’t take myself or much else all that seriously.

    My sincerest apologies.

  75. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Man, I guess taking yesterday off must have been a good idea, seems I missed a big mess.

    Good morning all!

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Again I think they waited too long to throw him in to the fire and now they are aftaid of what he’ll do……at the same time they should know how what Joba is going to do so what is the risk really…..
    ////

    I said the same thing the other day; they take forever to bring up someone and then fall back on their lack of trial as a reason for not trusting them. It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy and a self-defeating neglect of using potentially better hitters and pitchers.

    I think Chad is right that Girardi’s trust is hard won but then lasting (apparently, everlasting re Joba).

    There has got to be some window though for guys like Betances. Why even bother to make the change if they aren’t going to try to take advantage of it.

  77. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Greetings Al.

    :)

  78. blake September 9th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    MTU,
    I was totally joking……sorry if that didn’t come across ;)

  79. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    MTU

    I think Blake was using comedy. That’s one of the biggest problems with the Internet (and modern-day society). Things can be so easily misinterpreted. Twitter has ruined many a person’s life.

  80. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Blake-

    I’m glad. The Internet sometimes makes that tricky to decipher.

    :)

  81. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Thanks Bruce.

    :)

  82. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    JAP -

    I certainly understand you wanting to see Betances get his feet wet, but, given the teams place in the standings, and what they’re trying to accomplish, I can understand Girardi’s reluctance to experiment with using him in high pressure situations. I’m sure he’ll get a shot soon.

  83. blake September 9th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    correct…..tone is hard to determine in text……I’m usually joking when I say most things though

  84. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Yeah. I should know that Blake.

    Dumb ole’ me.

    :(

  85. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    MTU -

    See Mike, just as I told you the other day, not everyone dislikes you, and just because blake sees you as someone he’d like to roast on his BBQ, is no reason to feel bad. :)

  86. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    blake -

    Thanks for sharing your feelings.

  87. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Al-

    And I’m Kosher to boot. Make a heck of a meal for the right types.

    :)

  88. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Mister MTU,
    You offended me by your choice of a 9 over a 380.

  89. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Tom-

    I offended myself as I should have gotten a 40 instead of 9.

    I’ll just have to compensate in other ways.

    ;)

  90. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Mike -

    I need to ask if all the pictures in your collection are available on canvas, or just the select ones in your original list.

  91. jpb173 September 9th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    MTU September 9th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    I think Jeter will be just fine if he trains well this OS.

    ==========================================

    That would be true if Jeter’s problems were muscular. There are things that additional training can do to strengthen muscles. But, unfortunately Jeter’s current problem is with ankle soreness…which means it has to do with the fracture of the ankle and the ability of the tendons/ligaments to adhere to the ankle. If he is still having these sort of problems 11 months after the fracture then we can conclude that his current situation is permanent.

    The doctor who performed the surgery said that Jeter’s fracture was similar to a football injury because the fracture occurred at a point in the ankle where the ligaments/tendons connect to the bone and he said that sometimes the bone heals perfectly but all of the ligaments & tendons don’t re-adhere to the bone. My gut feel is that’s exactly what happened, and no amount of offseason training can correct that.

  92. blake September 9th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    you cook anything this weekend tom?

  93. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Mtu, Carry two.

  94. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Al-

    Not all. Some were taken before I had high resolution equipment.

    E-mail me if you have a question and I can let you know.

    I really like the canvas treatment so far. The company I use does an excellent job.

    :)

  95. MG September 9th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    I had posted what was going to be my last post about a week ago and happened to check in a few minutes ago and, after reading Chad’s very reasoned message, decided to post something.

    I’m usually pretty good at scrolling past people I have no interest in reading, I guess I have to be even better at it.

    So I’m back, at least for now.

    As for baseball, I didn’t see the Friday night game so missed the worst one of the series for the Yankees but yesterday’s win was both a gift and one that was sorely needed.

    They can’t afford to stumble again so need series wins in both Baltimore and Boston-the Rays continue their choke job (they lucked out yesterday to get a win) and play the Sox 3X and the Rangers 4X in the next 10 games.

  96. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    tom -

    Forgive Mike, he’s always trying to compensate.

    Remember, it was his lovely wife that got him into his nature walks when she said; Go take a hike, and that my friend was the beginning of a great life of picture taking, and enjoying the Lord’s creations.

  97. MG September 9th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    and my reason for leaving wasn’t the same as GLove (I just ignore all of that), it was another poster, someone I used to respect and considered one of the better people on this forum until 2013.

  98. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    JPB-

    I hope that’s not the case is all I can say. None of us are truly privy to the exact nature of the injury or how well it was repaired.

    Time will tell.

    Tom-

    Can’t afford a second one.

    Would have to be one or the other.

    Don’t really want to take a bath on the trade.

    :(

  99. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    blake,
    Not a thing, just some snow crab legs for Mrs. tom. Next weekend for sure, although I have know idea what. Have you ever tried a whole leg of lamb? They’re on sale here and rarely appear. This isn’t lamb country around here.

  100. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Al-

    Funny you say that because it’s actually true !

    Mrs. MTU helped me to find the first group of people I began to hike with.

    I am still friends with one of them 8 years later.

    ;)

  101. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    MG -

    You can’t allow any poster to chase you from this blog, because if you do, the poster wins, if it were their intention to be the single voice that drives the total conversation. There is room for many points of view, if a poster is rude, ignore them, and do not engage that person. If no one responds to that type of person, it’s they who leave.

    Got to run, catch y’all later.

    GO YANKEES!

  102. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Al-

    Did you see the car show photos I posted the other day ?

  103. BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Mike -

    I’ll E-mail you later.

  104. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    MTU,

    My feelings are hurt if you don’t always agree with me. From now on I ask you to agree even with even my repeated foolish thoughts.

  105. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Al-

    Check these out.

    You’ll get a kick out of them :

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/109721757058432487394/albums/5921210977644043921?authkey=CO-j5rfh_oHOrQE

  106. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Yes MG. Please don’t anywhere.

    Us old guys need to stick together.

    And I really dig your sense of humor.

    :)

  107. austinmac September 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Jpd,

    I think your assessment of Jeter’s condition is thoughtful. It seems very much up in the air whether he can return as a regular player. Ankle injuries are about the worst because of the repetitive trauma an ankle must endure, and he has had two fractures.

    Simply said, they cannot go into next year again planning for him to be the regular SS.

  108. GregD September 9th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    I agree, we can’t count on Jeter next year

  109. 86w183 September 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Can’t really count on much for next year at this point

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Chad, thank you very much for that post. I think it’s extremely well reasoned. It never bothers me to be accused of things that are accurate or even subjectively accurate. I don’t believe what I post here is garbage but if others do, then to them it is. What’s extremely hurtful, though, is to be accused of things that are not true. Just because the same posters hammer them over and over doesn’t make them any more true. But it may make them libelous, especially the accusations that border on criminality.

    1. I do NOT post as multiples. No matter how many time one person says I do, it doesn’t make it any more true. I post only as myself.

    2. I am NOT part of any behind-the-scenes orchestration to disrupt or hurt people on this forum. If anything, I try do the opposite behind the scenes and encourage the person in question to find other ways to channel his anger and frustrations.

    You can imagine that anyone who has come at me with a vengeance probably engends in me the same kinds of feelings that I have in that person. But my chosen course of action is to ignore it as best I can. I publicly offered G. Love an olive branch here on more than one occasion. He chose not to take it. That’s his right.

    It’s always interesting to find out that people whom you like and respect actually think you’re not so cool. Hearing austin say he understood randy and G. Love leaving was at least a little unsettling but it is what it is.

    Finally, despite being accused of it, I have never attempted to make this forum mine or about me. My personality is such that when I believe in something, I’ll fight tooth and nail. I’ve always been that way.

    I think MTU, blake, pat and others have offered the best compilation of advice. It’s advice I do attempt to take myself. Try to treat others with respect. Argue points but don’t make it personal. If you really find you cannot stand the person, don’t read their posts. Think all the lousy things you need to think and even write them down if it makes you feel better – but leave it at that.

  111. J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Big Al,

    I wanted
    Betances to get his feet wet much earlier.

    I wanted him in against Boston to be a stopper when a couple of those games still hung in the balance. The choices made thee gasoline o. Those games,
    Unfortunately. But lucky for us, Tampa
    Has kept us in this
    Thing :)

  112. J. Alfred Prufrock September 9th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Good one, all

  113. blake September 9th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Tom,
    I havent’ tried lamb…..I did make some smoked mac and cheese that was incredible……I think it may have taken a year off my life by eating it but it was possibly worth it

  114. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    I’m happy MG is back.

  115. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Tonight is the beginning of probably the most important week of the season.

    I agree that Huff should start vs the O’s. Hughes needs to be kept away from starting a game
    until further notice.

  116. blake September 9th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    MG,
    glad you’re back….you’re a good one.

  117. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Trisha-

    I know your heart is good. I’ve told you so before. We always have a perfect interaction regardless of view.

    And I wish others would see it too.

    Take that advice best you can. It isn’t always easy especially for someone of your nature.

    You’ll find more peace and happiness that way IMO.

    Save the sparing or the courtroom.

    I for one know what your capabilities are.

    No need to prove anything here.

    Just have a good time and maybe learn a few things.

    Your pal,

    MTU

  118. ron September 9th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    I think hughes is a perfect example of a pitcher,pitching in the wrong park because of his fb%.
    I think playing in ys sapped him of all his confidence.
    There were times where he looked great,and confident.

    Hughes simply could not come up with a pitch,or pitches to neutralize his weaknesses,and ys.
    The great ones just get it done.
    Hughes did not.

    Hughes should of pitched to contact more when needed.A split,or sinker.
    He is always trying to strike someone out,and perfectly place a pitch,instead of just pitching,and go by a feeling.

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    MTU – since you are my prototype for perfection, I do listen hard when you say something.

    Thanks my dear friend.

    :)

  120. MG September 9th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    BIG AL September 9th, 2013 at 11:39 am
    MG -

    You can’t allow any poster to chase you from this blog, because if you do, the poster wins, if it were their intention to be the single voice that drives the total conversation.
    ————————
    Al, I personally don’t care about winning or losing on a blog, it makes no difference to me. I save the wins and losses for real life where it might mean something.

    I like to share baseball insights, mostly related to on the field stuff, with people I respect. I get over saturated by all of the off the field stuff like fantasy trades, etc-I don’t have any interest in fantasy baseball or fantasy football either so it’s consistent for me.

    The blog just doesn’t have nearly as many of those as it did a few years ago and the number continues to thin out.

    Here we are with only 19 games left and I just checked the game thread and the number of posts was below a usual spring training game.

    I’ll check in from time to time and post mostly in the morning, that seems to work best for me.

  121. MG September 9th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Golf afternoon-playing World Woods Pine Barrens, top 100 course (and one of my personal favorites) for $10 courtesy of Golf Now…

  122. MTU September 9th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Trisha-

    I think you meant to say prototype of imperfection but I’ll let it pass.

    Anyway, I just want you to have fun and not be forced into defending the things you believe so often. Don’t let your passions get the better of you.

    Please let them speak for themselves.

    If an idea has power it stands by itself without serious defense.

    It eventually becomes recognized for what it is.

    Heck, Hughes is even going to try a splitter. It took a while.

    But the idea always had merit IMO.

    :)

  123. ron September 9th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    4 game series are tough because splitting might do no good,and it ain’t easy winning 3 of 4,at least that is the case with the Yankees now.
    I thing we have to win 3 of 4.
    I sure wish we traded everyone in the past offseason,and signed a few fa.
    We still would of competed the same.
    Teams are locking up their kids,so there won’t be any good free agents.At least long term solutions.

  124. DONNYBROOK September 9th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    - MONDAY MORNING MUSINGS -

    (1) The shadows won that game for the Yankees yesterday. The Wild Pitch was a direct result of a delayed reaction by the R\Sox catcher.

    (2) The Jeet assessment above is ALL wrong. This is what happens when just looking at numbers. The back-to-back 2 hit games sighted above, were Weak hits. Bleeders that found holes on the infield. Jeet had a good double down the RF line in Toronto, and a decent line drive out to RF also. Other than that, he has had trouble getting the ball into the air. Everything has been on the ground, and he has been frequently getting jammed. Players say when a hitter has leg problems, they have trouble driving the ball. When the foundation is faulty, the entire structure suffers. That is the problem with Jeter, and has been there for all to see since Very early after his return.

    (3) Using MO for 2 innings was not “A” Plan, it was “NO” Plan. What was Girardi going to do if Kuroda got KO’d in the 5th inning or earlier? Girardi continues to write his ticket outta town. No Clue. No Plan.

  125. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    MG

    Ten bucks for a round of golf on that course? Wow. I’m really envious.

  126. Frankg September 9th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    I agree with Chad. Send Chamberlin to Scranton or release him, and sign Cody Ransom.

  127. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    I’ve used the “type, then delete” method a few times. It’s cathartic! You just have to be careful to actually delete and not submit! ;)

    Also when I’m alone I will respond out loud to a post ( I. E., ” you gotta be kiddin’ me!”). That helps too.

    No one here is perfect and I’ve been guilty in years past of being unable to hold my tongue. But after my hiatus I realized the only way to post here and cut down the aggravation quotient is to not take it seriously and to fight the urge to type a knee-jerk reaction.

    Chad is right in that we do have a feel for one another at this point. We know who pushes our buttons and who we can have a better exchange with.

    For the record I don’t believe Trisha posts as multiples.

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