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Pitching matchups in Baltimore

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 09, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Tonight
LHP CC Sabathia (13-11, 4.86)
vs.
RHP Chris Tillman (15-5, 3.71)
7:05 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network

Tuesday
RHP Ivan Nova (8-4, 3.02)
vs.
RHP Miguel Gonzalez (9-7, 3.98)
7:05 p.m., MY9 and MLB Network

Wednesday
LHP Andy Pettitte (10-9, 4.03)
vs.
RHP Scott Feldman (5-4, 3.63)
7:05 p.m., YES Network

Thursday
LHP David Huff (2-0, 6.45)
vs.
LHP Wei-Yin Chen (7-7, 3.82)
7:05 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network

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39 Responses to “Pitching matchups in Baltimore”

  1. DONNYBROOK September 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Another “4 Game Gauntlet”. Let’s hope we walk this one better than the one we just exited.

  2. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Just stopped on a break. Don’t know what’s been said about G. Love and Randy I., but I will miss both if they hold true to their word and leave the blog. If you don’t understand, read yesterdays pre-game. It was toxic.

  3. Tackelberry September 9th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Tillman is tough. CC better bring his A game for once

  4. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    blake,
    Here’s the recipe I’m going to try.
    http://www.foodandwine.com/rec.....eg-of-lamb

  5. Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    I think that 19 game Yankee win streak was in 1947 the most recent long Yankee win streak is 15 games in 1960 (according to wikipedia).

    rm, thank you for correcting me as in my zeal to show how the Yankee teams have come back to win the pennants, I used the 19 game winning streak incorrectly. It was in 1964 after the Yogi Berra and Phil Linz harmonica incident that the Yankees were able to win in September after being 5.5 games behind in August. The fact that you pointed out the 15 game winning streak in 1960 is something that I had forgotten. This blog does provide us with a great deal of information especially the history of both baseball and the Yankees. History can be a repeat performance where the plot is the same and only then characters change. 15 wins in the next 19 games would be a repeat performance that I would love to see.

  6. pat September 9th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    SI_JoeLemire
    Average MLB hitter has .717 OPS. Red Sox are getting better production from all nine (!) lineup slots.

    Yankees > .717 OPS

    Cano
    Gardner
    Granderson
    Reynolds
    Rodriguez
    Soriano

  7. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    DONNYBROOK September 9th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
    - MONDAY MORNING MUSINGS -

    (3) Using MO for 2 innings was not “A” Plan, it was “NO” Plan. What was Girardi going to do if Kuroda got KO’d in the 5th inning or earlier? Girardi continues to write his ticket outta town. No Clue. No Plan.
    ————————————————————————–
    You really have no clue.
    If Kuroda was knocked out of the game in the 5th, Girardi has plenty of options in the pen.
    He could have gone with Hughes or Betances, etc….

    Going with Mo for 2 innings was a great idea. Especially with Robertson unavailable.
    You are aware that Robertson is unavailable currently yes?

    Mo pitched fine last night. The HR he gave up is an easy out is every other MLB park.
    I’m not worried about Mo and the HR he gave up yesterday to blow the save.

  8. Madrugador September 9th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    I thought going with Mo for two innings yesterday was reasonable but at the time I considered that Joe might be using Mo in the 8th to face Ortiz and then used someone else in the ninth to close it. Sometimes because of the batters that are due up, you need the closer in the 8th while the 9th lends itself to the set up guy.

  9. blake September 9th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Tom ,

    Sounds like a good recipe….to be honest though I don’t know if I’ve ate leg of lamb much less tried to cook it

  10. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    blake, that’s the wrong recipe. I’ll leave the right one in the morning. You are right, lamb isn’t a Southern thing.

  11. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Desperate times call for desperate measures and I understand why Joe went to Mo for two innings yesterday.

    With Robertson unavailable for the 8th, his options were severely limited, but it does concern me that our manager is resorting to panic moves in game 143 of a 162-game schedule.

    What are you going to do in Baltimore tonight or Boston next weekend if and when the same situation arises?

    I know the goal is to make the playoffs at all costs, but I’d be really wary about making the same move again anytime soon.

    As Chad pointed out in his comment earlier, Girardi has a pecking order in the pen and is loyal to a fault. He manages with his head…and very rarely with his heart.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Camden Yards is a little scary as it doesn’t take much for balls to fly out of there. Therefore I am hoping that CC has great location tonight. I also think it’s a good reason not to start Hughes.

    With the Huff situation, I’m willing to write the last game off to a big case of the nerves. In any event, if he does start and shows signs of losing it, maybe Girardi can quickly go to Warren.

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    This seems to be a good time to show the current state of the Prediction Chart. As always, feel free to check my math! :)

    ___________________________

    PREDICTIONS FOR 2013

    SoS – 117* :(

    Igotid88 – 104* :(

    Trisha – 97 :(

    Jacksquat – 96 :(

    Poetkiosk – 96 :(

    Newyorkfanforever – 95

    Jmills – 95

    Doc Iac – 95*

    Yankeehotelfoxtrot - 95

    rm – 94

    Tomingeorgia – 94

    Nilsson – 94

    r115 – 94

    BBfan - 94

    Munson – 93

    Ghostwriter – 93

    Big Al – 93

    The Straw – 93

    Warning Track Power - 93

    Carly – 93

    Tabbert – 93

    CountryClub – 93

    Shame Spencer - 92

    Mike_Boston - 92

    Utility Man – 92

    Chip – 92

    Jmv – 92

    Nick in SF – 92

    Mike Ri – 92

    joecembrale – 92

    pyankfan – 92

    Tackleberry – 91

    RMS – 91

    RadioKev – 91

    ac1 – 91

    massjake – 91

    Yankeefeminista – 91

    Noreaster – 91

    Joeman – 90

    GregD – 90

    Bronx Jeers – 90

    Tar – 89

    4 NYY – 89

    Blake – 89

    Yankee21 – 89

    Luis – 89

    Astrocityfan – 89

    Austinmac – 88

    David in Cal – 88

    Yankee Trader – 88

    Cashmoney – 87

    Charlestonchew – 87

    Jackson – 87

    PacoDooley – 87

    Bruceb – 86

    Vineyard Yankee – 86

    Bobby Murcer – 86

    Don – 86

    Mike in Harrisburg – 86

    Baby Ruth – 85

    Sammiejohnson – 85

    Joeman – 85

    Felix Unger – 84

    bardos – 83

    Your Worst Nightmare – 83

    Deal With It – 82

    Oscar Madison – 82

    Niblick – 81

    MaineYankee – 80

    Cujo – 80

    Comet – 79

    Blutarsky – 78

    *late prediction

  14. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
    Desperate times call for desperate measures and I understand why Joe went to Mo for two innings yesterday.

    With Robertson unavailable for the 8th, his options were severely limited, but it does concern me that our manager is resorting to panic moves in game 143 of a 162-game schedule.

    What are you going to do in Baltimore tonight or Boston next weekend if and when the same situation arises?

    I know the goal is to make the playoffs at all costs, but I’d be really wary about making the same move again anytime soon.

    As Chad pointed out in his comment earlier, Girardi has a pecking order in the pen and is loyal to a fault. He manages with his head…and very rarely with his heart.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    Cone said it best on the air yesterday-
    You were about tomorrow, tomorrow.

    No self respecting manager under the same conditions as Girardi is going to not pitch Mo so he can be available the following game.

    In the 8th inning yesterday, did Girardi really have any other choice?
    I don’t think so. Not under the current conditions and the reg. 8th inning arm unavailable.

    Maybe, just maybe he could have gone to Cabral to face Ortiz, but what if Ortiz goes yard.
    Then everybody would have been screaming why Girardi did not insert the great Mo
    to start the 8th.

  15. Madrugador September 9th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I hate those guys who make a prediction and come the end of the season won’t stick by it. I had 83 on a different thread. Think I will be a few short but 90 seems to be a reach at this point

  16. GregD September 9th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    My son goes to school in NC……he’s as big a Yankee fan as me ….. So I’m driving down to see him this weekend and watch a few games against the Red Sox……

  17. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    WTP

    I get everything you say…and I know I’m being ultra-critiical. I think Girardi is a good manager for the Yankees and one of his main strengths is how he uses the pen. Due to the many injuries we’ve had this year, he’s had to use the relievers far more often than I’m sure he would have liked – and it’s showing.

    My main criticisms are that (a) he’s too dogmatic about who he uses and when, and (b) he’s took quick to push the panic button.

    Did Robertson really need to pitch the 8th inning of game three against the White Sox when we were leading 6-1? In the end, he had to go to Mo and we saw the consequences of that in the Red Sox series.

    It’s all very well saying let’s worry about tomorrow, tomorrow, but to use another cliche, sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war.

  18. blake September 9th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    “blake, that’s the wrong recipe. I’ll leave the right one in the morning. You are right, lamb isn’t a Southern thing.”

    tom if you want to try something and don’t mind ignoring the calories…..then try this sometime.

    http://www.smoking-meat.com/au.....ulled-pork

    I didn’t do the pork part….but it doesn’t even need it.

  19. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    WTP

    I get everything you say…and I know I’m being ultra-critiical. I think Girardi is a good manager for the Yankees and one of his main strengths is how he uses the pen. Due to the many injuries we’ve had this year, he’s had to use the relievers far more often than I’m sure he would have liked – and it’s showing.

    My main criticisms are that (a) he’s too dogmatic about who he uses and when, and (b) he’s took quick to push the panic button.

    Did Robertson really need to pitch the 8th inning of game three against the White Sox when we were leading 6-1? In the end, he had to go to Mo and we saw the consequences of that in the Red Sox series.

    It’s all very well saying let’s worry about tomorrow, tomorrow, but to use another cliche, sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war.
    —————————————————————————————-
    There are many baseball experts on t.v. and in print that continue to praise
    Girardi for the job he has done to date and how he is a candidate for manager of the year.
    A lot of people here would disagree. I’ll take the side of the experts because Girardi has
    done a great job and the fact that the Yankees are this close to the WC is amazing.

    Yankees bullpen was their strength and in the last 4 games that took a turn for the worse.
    Yankees would’ve swept the series if not for the bullpen disaster.

    I like the notion of worrying about tomorrow, tomorrow.

    So tonight someone like C.C. needs to step up and give the Yankees a great start. The type of performance that has him standing on the mound in the bottom of the 9th. Is that a lot to ask?
    Same goes for Nova and Andy in this 4 game series.

  20. GregD September 9th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    Camden Yards is a little scary as it doesn’t take much for balls to fly out of there. Therefore I am hoping that CC has great location tonight. I also think it’s a good reason not to start Hughes.

    With the Huff situation, I’m willing to write the last game off to a big case of the nerves. In any event, if he does start and shows signs of losing it, maybe Girardi can quickly go to Warren.
    ————
    We need CC to be CC…….I think that Huff is still a better option than Hughes…….

  21. UnKnown September 9th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    G. Love left???

    WTF!!! That sucks. What happened to his final post in the pregame thread I can’t find it? Was it removed?

  22. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    GregD September 9th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 9th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    Camden Yards is a little scary as it doesn’t take much for balls to fly out of there. Therefore I am hoping that CC has great location tonight. I also think it’s a good reason not to start Hughes.

    With the Huff situation, I’m willing to write the last game off to a big case of the nerves. In any event, if he does start and shows signs of losing it, maybe Girardi can quickly go to Warren.
    ————
    We need CC to be CC…….I think that Huff is still a better option than Hughes……
    ————————————————————————–
    I agree. Huff is the better choice and since the O’s are not as good against Lefties,
    more reason to start Huff.
    If Huff has another disaster, then it might be time to demote him and think about
    inserting Hughes again or someone else.

    C.C. has a great opportunity to step up tonight and lead the team to a victory.

    I just hope he keeps that CU down in the zone, as well as his fastball. He can get the O’s to chase pitches if he can establish the fastball down in the zone for strikes.

  23. Madrugador September 9th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Yeah, it was there yesterday but seems to have been scrubbed today.
    Me, I prefer to look at the world with a full palate of colors.

  24. Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    To quote one of the lines from “Gone with the Wind,” I can’t think of it right now, I’ll think about it tomorrow.” That is Giradi’s dilemma as he may have to play each game as his last and that is not his game. He may not be able to keep Warren to replace Huff if he falters because he may need him sooner. Billy Martin won wherever he went and was known for burning out pitchers, and if he was managing now, we would be smelling the smoke.

  25. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    To quote one of the lines from “Gone with the Wind,” I can’t think of it right now, I’ll think about it tomorrow.” That is Giradi’s dilemma as he may have to play each game as his last and that is not his game. He may not be able to keep Warren to replace Huff if he falters because he may need him sooner. Billy Martin won wherever he went and was known for burning out pitchers, and if he was managing now, we would be smelling the smoke.
    ——————————————————————
    The pen is being worn out because the starters are not doing the job well enough.
    It takes two, yes?
    If the starters can give the pen a bit of a rest by going at least 7 innings, well the pen can heal up and the Yankees can win a lot of games.

    I don’t have a problem with how Girardi has managed the pen. I have a problem with the starters(Hughes) who fail to give distance and put the pen in a situation where they have to get 12 outs or more.

  26. charlestonchew September 9th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    It probably sounds borderline insane, but I wouldn’t mind seeing JR Murphy start Huff’s next start. It might make sense, since they’ve worked together and we do want to see what we can get out of JR. The kid has some good offensive #s for a catcher and will likely be on this team next year. It’s possible that his fresh eyes and pitchers’ unfamiliarity with him might get him to put the bat on the ball more and leave pitchers without a reliable way to get him out. David Adams, Zoilo Almonte were both productive at first until the league figured them out a little more and I kind of expect the same from JR. Now may be the time to try it, in game 3 of this series.

  27. UnKnown September 9th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Yeah, it was there yesterday but seems to have been scrubbed today.
    ———–

    Oh, well that stinks. I gather it was about Trisha? She complained I guess and had it removed. Talk about glass jaw.

    I would’ve liked to seen the final post from one of the people who was a top 3 poster here of all time. Oh well. This place is dying.

  28. charlestonchew September 9th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    I have to disagree about the Huff vs. Hughes debate. I think Hughes has at least twice the talent that Huff has. Sure, he doesn’t always put to together and this season, except for a stretch of a month or so, has been a big let down. But ultimately, Phil has 2 good pitches and one that’s pretty decent that, when he’s on, can stifle a lineup. Huff’s success thus far, imo, has been from the fact that people are largely unfamiliar with him. Do we ride down that road for the rest of the season? I have to imagine Huff will falter again, but hopefully Girardi has a quicker hook and Hughes actually looks like he can pitch when he comes out for long relief.

    I wonder how Pineda’s doing…..

  29. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    charlestonchew September 9th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    It probably sounds borderline insane, but I wouldn’t mind seeing JR Murphy start Huff’s next start. It might make sense, since they’ve worked together and we do want to see what we can get out of JR. The kid has some good offensive #s for a catcher and will likely be on this team next year. It’s possible that his fresh eyes and pitchers’ unfamiliarity with him might get him to put the bat on the ball more and leave pitchers without a reliable way to get him out. David Adams, Zoilo Almonte were both productive at first until the league figured them out a little more and I kind of expect the same from JR. Now may be the time to try it, in game 3 of this series.
    —————————————————————–
    I would be shocked if Murphy does not get 1 start in the 4
    game series vs O’s.
    Not sure Yankees can count on Stewie with that foot injury.

  30. blake September 9th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    “I wonder how Pineda’s doing…..”

    I don’t think he’s had anymore DUI’s so that a positive.

  31. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Regarding Girardi being dogmatic about his pecking order, or, really, who he uses when, he has said, and I have read that pitchers in the pen appreciate this, that it is about pitchers knowing what their role is, and so as a result they are mentally prepared (or as prepared as they can be) to enter games based on situations. There are rarely surprises.

    I also heard Ray Fosse answer the question about how the A’s are doing it this year with the response that everyone there knows their role.

    There’s a lot to be said about that.

    At the same time, you do hope that there’s enough flexibility, both by the manager and the players as well, to adapt when things are going a little nuts, or, not quite as expected. I think for the most part of the over course of the season, the players and Joe have done okay.

    But I do believe when Ivan Nova had a bad game in Game 1 against the Red Sox, it threw everyone for a bit of a loop, and there was definitely a domino effect (affect?) – effect – on the bullpen for the rest of the series.

  32. tomingeorgia September 9th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    blake,
    With 7 cups of cheese, 5 cups of half and half, and all the other stuff in there I’m surprised Michelle Obama has shown up on Air Force 1 and boxed your ears!

  33. Doreen September 9th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    And it didn’t help that Kelley, Logan and Robertson all were hurting.

  34. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Sweeny Murti
    CC Sabathia was a little under the weather this weekend. We will see if it affects his stamina tonight. He didn’t think it was a big deal.
    ————————————————————————————-

    OK this is not the way to start a very important 4 game series.

  35. blake September 9th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    “With 7 cups of cheese, 5 cups of half and half, and all the other stuff in there I’m surprised Michelle Obama has shown up on Air Force 1 and boxed your ears!”

    oh it’s bad…..I think I gained 5 lbs just looking at it

  36. bruceb September 9th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    So tonight someone like C.C. needs to step up and give the Yankees a great start. The type of performance that has him standing on the mound in the bottom of the 9th. Is that a lot to ask?
    Same goes for Nova and Andy in this 4 game series.

    I actually think that’s a massive ask, given their workload this season and recent performances.

    Is it too much to ask for Joba to pitch a scoreless inning or Hughes to protect an 8-3 lead?

    Too much was asked of the pitchers in the first five months of the season to compensate for the lack of offense. Now it’s taking its toll.

  37. Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Warning Track Power, I agree with you about our starting pitching, but I was bringing up Billy Martin’s way of managing where he used pitchers almost every day in order to win especially in September when everything was on line as a contrast to the way Giradi and most managers handle pitchers today. Unlike Billy, Giradi does think of tomorrow and ruining pitcher’s arms so he is limited to the way he uses the best of his lot in order to win.

  38. exiledintampa September 9th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Hankflorida

    Remember when your best relief pitcher came in, in crutial situations? Sparky Lyle is the first example that comes to mind. You didn’t used to leave it up to the next man in line.

  39. Warning Track Power September 9th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Hankflorida September 9th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    Warning Track Power, I agree with you about our starting pitching, but I was bringing up Billy Martin’s way of managing where he used pitchers almost every day in order to win especially in September when everything was on line as a contrast to the way Giradi and most managers handle pitchers today. Unlike Billy, Giradi does think of tomorrow and ruining pitcher’s arms so he is limited to the way he uses the best of his lot in order to win.
    ——————————————
    Correct.
    Billy wore out the arms without concern for the next game, while Girardi does a great job
    of knowing how is available/unavailable and which arm can use a day off to rest up.

    The Yankees pen was severely limited this weekend, especially on Sunday, so Girardi
    had no choice but to give Mo 2 innings.
    Again, I’m not concerned about the blown save because the fly ball is an easy out in every other MLB Park.

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