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Hughes: “Just trying to help us out”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 12, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Phil Hughes

There was no foolproof option when choosing tonight’s Yankees starter. David Huff was knocked around in his spot start over the weekend, Adam Warren’s started only one game all year, Brett Marshall is coming off a pretty disappointing season in Triple-A, and Phil Hughes lost his rotation spot just last week. But someone has to start, and the Yankees decided to give Hughes another chance.

“We just have to win games,” Hughes said. “There’s no underlying stories there, just trying to help us out, throw the ball as well as I can and do the best job that I can. I’m excited for that. Not really worried about redemption or proving anybody wrong or stuff like that. I’m just trying to throw as many quality innings as I can.”

Hughes hasn’t faced the Orioles since May 21, but on that day he allowed two runs through six innings right here at Camden Yards, and the Yankees could really use an outing like that again tonight.

“I sure hope so,” Joe Girardi said. “We need him to go out there and give us some innings.”

Hughes said he started to get loose on Monday, but that’s the last time he threw off a mound. His one relief outing didn’t go so well, and clearly he’d like to move on from a pretty bad past two months or so. It’s been a while since Hughes was on his normal routine, and the Yankees might know pretty early whether this particular gamble will pay off. If it doesn’t, I have to think Girardi’s will have a a pretty short leash.

“I hope I’m fresh,” Hughes said. “Command, I think, will be the issue (to watch). But as long as I’m throwing strikes early, I’ll be fine.”

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159 Responses to “Hughes: “Just trying to help us out””

  1. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Hankflorida September 12th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
    Trisha, you pose an interesting supposition if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Pedroia and not A-Rod. When I was a kid, I used to read the comics, and there was a character named Billy Batson who when he would say the word “Shazam,” he turned into Captain Marvel who had super strength. If Pedroia was using steroids to become Captain Marvel, I would be very angry at him especially that he had helped win two World Series and had beaten out the Yankees with his newly aquired super strength. Since we all agree that we must follow the letter of the law, Pedroia has the right to play, but my feeling are that as long as he is playing with his true identity of Billy Batson and not Captain Marvel, I will wait for his punishment hoping that it will be severe enough to deter others from taking the same road.
    -*—————————————-
    Wait a second. Has Pedroia been accused of PED use this week?
    News to me.
    Please continue

  2. bruceb September 12th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Another fun chat with Chad. I tell you what, the man does great work on this blog
    and I think all of us should show the man some appreciation for the time and effort he
    takes to keep us readers informed.

    Hear, hear. Being a beat writer isn’t easy. You have to tread a fine line between having an opinion and reporting the news fairly…and at the same time maintaining a relationship with the management and players. Chad does an outstanding job IMHO.

  3. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    C’mon Hughes, do you job tonight and do it well.

    Establish that curve ball and change up early. Forget about the playbook
    and throw caution to the wind.

    Keep the ball down low and good results will happen.
    Throw the ball up in the zone and I’m sorry, your balls will be hit hard and often enough to get
    you removed from the game fairly early.

    Tonight I want to see Fastball, CU and Curve Ball. Forget about that slider that sits on a tee for MLB hitters.

  4. Rich K. September 12th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    i agree Bruceb

  5. DONNYBROOK September 12th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Fly ball Chucker in that bandbox does Not bode well. Let’s hope Buck runs his team outta this game also. Forcing the action when you have the other team Clearly out-manned is pure Bonehead.

  6. Hankflorida September 12th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Hankflorida September 12th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
    Trisha, you pose an interesting supposition if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Pedroia and not A-Rod. When I was a kid, I used to read the comics, and there was a character named Billy Batson who when he would say the word “Shazam,” he turned into Captain Marvel who had super strength. If Pedroia was using steroids to become Captain Marvel, I would be very angry at him especially that he had helped win two World Series and had beaten out the Yankees with his newly aquired super strength. Since we all agree that we must follow the letter of the law, Pedroia has the right to play, but my feeling are that as long as he is playing with his true identity of Billy Batson and not Captain Marvel, I will wait for his punishment hoping that it will be severe enough to deter others from taking the same road.
    -*—————————————-
    Wait a second. Has Pedroia been accused of PED use this week?
    News to me.
    Please continue
    Since I was answering Trisha’s hypothetical question of Pedroia being accused of PED use instead of A-Rod, Pedroia still looks like Billy Batson, and A-Rod still resembles Captain Marvel. The way that A-Rod is hitting, I hope he is getting his strength at his age by just uttering those magical words, “Shazam.”

  7. UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Kris Jones ?@RavenManiac
    After ARod touched home, he turned to 2 guys behind home plate who were heckling him as well & did the “zip your lips” pose and blew a kiss.
    Retweeted by Mike Axisa
    ————–

    God do I love this guy. GO AL!! :evil:
    Guy is such a freaking BOSS!!

  8. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
    Kris Jones ?@RavenManiac
    After ARod touched home, he turned to 2 guys behind home plate who were heckling him as well & did the “zip your lips” pose and blew a kiss.
    Retweeted by Mike Axisa
    ————–

    God do I love this guy. GO AL!! :evil:
    Guy is such a freaking BOSS!!
    ——————————————————————–
    Was this last night or the night before? I remember ARod looked towards the stands on t.v. and I thought he was motioning to a family member or loved one who was watching the game.
    This story is much better!
    GO ARod!!!

    Reminds me of my softball game 2 weeks ago.
    Championship game and the other team was chirping the entire game. One player mocked me for walking on 3 pitches. He shouted, “swing the bat” as I was walking to 1st.
    My next at bat in the bottom of the sixth, well I hit a 2 run Home Run over the right center field fence to extend our lead to 7 runs.
    As much as I wanted to say something in his direction, I kept my mouth shut as I rounded the bases. Never heard from that player again in the game as we won the Championship

  9. Shame Spencer September 12th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    That’s amazing.

  10. blake September 12th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    I think Arod has officially said “screw everybody I don’t care”…..he’s playing a lot better too.

  11. Giuseppe Franco September 12th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Kris Jones ?@RavenManiac
    After ARod touched home, he turned to 2 guys behind home plate who were heckling him as well & did the “zip your lips” pose and blew a kiss.
    Retweeted by Mike Axisa

    ——

    LOL. That’s hilarious.

  12. RC September 12th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Kris Jones ?@RavenManiac
    After ARod touched home, he turned to 2 guys behind home plate who were heckling him as well & did the “zip your lips” pose and blew a kiss.
    Retweeted by Mike Axisa

    ——

    I sat 5 rows behind home on Monday night and there were a few guys heckling him who were sitting 2 rows behind the plate in section 34. This was later in the game so I’m not sure they were there for his 1st inning HR… Anyway I wonder if they were the same clowns… They also gave Romine a lot of grief when he got hurt.

    Does anyone know if the O’s are doing anything for Mo tonight? If so what time? I want to make sure I’m there for that.

  13. UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    It was last night because it was tweeted 16hrs ago, plus I remember after he hit that oppo shot he looked into the crowd on his way back to the dugout and I was thinking “he isn’t giving it back to the fans is he” Oh Yes He Was!

    So awesome. Boo all you want.

  14. UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Something to think about with Hughes going tonight. Is I think the Yanks are pretty sure Nova can make his start on Sunday, otherwise I would hold Hughes for that game. I don’t think you want Huff going Sunday night against the Sox who just hit him pretty good. I would rather have Huff go tonight and Hughes on Sunday IF Nova can’t go. But it’s not like Hughes has been really successful against Boston either so I guess it probably doesn’t matter.

    I think Joe is really zeroing in on just win the next game and who gives us the best chance of doing that. In that case I think Hughes is the guy to with tonight.

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock September 12th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Kris Jones ?@RavenManiac
    After ARod touched home, he turned to 2 guys behind home plate who were heckling him as well & did the “zip your lips” pose and blew a kiss.
    Retweeted by Mike Axisa
    ————–

    God do I love this guy. GO AL!! :evil:
    Guy is such a freaking BOSS!!
    ///

    LOL!

    Alex thrives on being able to flip people off.

    His road splits are dramatically better than at home:

    .345 .419 .655 1.074

    Bring on the hate :twisted: :D

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock September 12th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Here’s AL at NYS:

    258 .352 .387 .739

  17. 4TrainNorth September 12th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Hughes better throw tonight like his life depends on it. No more of this weak-ass junk. Where’s the upper 90s, Philly-boy? I don’t care if you leave your right arm on the mound when it’s over.

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock September 12th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Those splits are in 62 and 71 PAs, respectively

  19. blake September 12th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    JK (Chicago)

    If you were in the Angels, would you just offer Trout 10/250 right now? He’s going to make a ton in arb, and this way you are keeping him away from free agency while only locking him up through age 31. And that kind of money would be kind of hard to say no to, right?
    Klaw (1:25 PM)

    I’m not sure he’d take it. I’ve certainly heard enough stories of player discontent with Scioscia that I could see Trout saying screw it, I’ll clean up in arbitration and go be a Dodger or a Yankee at age 26.

    Yankee please!

  20. 4TrainNorth September 12th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    You have to wonder how much Scioscia’s managing style affected Hamilton this year. Granted, Hamilton needs to man up, but those two don’t seem right for each other.

  21. blake September 12th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Scioscia is the most overated manager in history…..his teams have done nothing but under achieve for like a decade now.

  22. yankeefeminista September 12th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    I saw Alex look into the crowd after the jack, but didn’t realize the extent of it. LOL. Keep feeling the love, Alex.

    Huuughes is right, his command early may be an issue. Hope he settles in. We need a big game for you and expect one, Philip.

    It is good to see that Ty Hensley (first rounder in 2012) feels as if he has more power in his core after the hip surgery for his impingement problem. I am hoping next season is a good one for our pitching prospects.

  23. yankeefeminista September 12th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    big game *from you

  24. blake September 12th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Girardi’s teams have overachieved the last 2 seasons…..dramatically this year.

  25. yankeefeminista September 12th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    It was a sub only article, but one thing that was interesting is that Henley said he got no hip rotation previously when he pitched but now after surgery he does. Alex must be feeling similarly.

  26. luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Good afternoon guys,

    I love the way Alex is playing… He seems to be on a mission… Same goes with Soriano, what a pick up

    Excellent game last night… They have a lot of fight left

    About Hughes,

    I don’t like his overall demeanor… His confidence is shattered to pieces IMO… Let’s hope he is solid in his outing… With Nova potentially out, we need all the help we can get

  27. longtimefan September 12th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Like a ship a drift without a rudder, he is in the pen, wait he pitched terrible out of the pen, he is back in the rotation, hope he pitches well, youngsters unproven at this level can’t be trusted to perform, but Hughes has been really, really bad this season what makes you think he is going to turn it around tonight–like the whole season the yankees do not know from one day to the next, don’t really seem to have a plan on anything and yet have a long, long shot at 2nd wildcard, go figure.

  28. luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    For him to be successful, he needs to introduce the CU and slider early in the game to keep the O’s batters off his FB… Both to lefties and righties

  29. hardwired7 September 12th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    “Chad does an outstanding job IMHO.”

    Right on, bruceb. Right on.

  30. luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    YF,

    About Hensley…. If he has more hip rotation, maybe he can get a couple of MPH more from his FB… That could be a tremendous plus to his already very strong FB

  31. UnKnown September 12th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Does anyone know if the O’s are doing anything for Mo tonight? If so what time? I want to make sure I’m there for that.
    ———
    Teams have been doing this right before the game. I would say around 6:50 or something like that.
    xxxxxxxxxx

    (O.T)Hey I hope the Jets can get a big win tonight for you Jets fans, but at NE could be tough. Plus short week for the young QB might be an obstacle. Pats are dealing with some key injuries though. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets.

  32. MG September 12th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    longtimefan September 12th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    Like a ship a drift without a rudder, he is in the pen, wait he pitched terrible out of the pen, he is back in the rotation, hope he pitches well, youngsters unproven at this level can’t be trusted to perform, but Hughes has been really, really bad this season what makes you think he is going to turn it around tonight–like the whole season the yankees do not know from one day to the next, don’t really seem to have a plan on anything and yet have a long, long shot at 2nd wildcard, go figure.
    ——————————————————-
    What choice do the Yankees have other than put Hughes out there?

    Huff got hammered in his one start, Phelps is on the DL, Nuno is done for the season, as is Pineda.

    Warren hasn’t gone more than 3 or 4 innings all season so isn’t anything better.

    Every team goes through this in a pennant race-pitchers get hurt or stop throwing well, relievers hurt their arms, position players get hurt, etc, etc, etc.

    You can’t just inventory starting pitchers on a shelf and pull them down when you need one, they need to pitch regularly.

    The Rays are usually mentioned as the model for having a great system and plan in place. Meanwhile, they have lost 13 out of 17 and had to replace their best setup guy, Joel Peralta, in the 10th inning last night after facing 2 batters because Joe Maddon, the supposed managerial genius, though Roberto (Fausto) Hernandez (Carmona) had a better chance of getting a ground ball with Mike Napoli up. So he walks Napoli and Maddon lets him pitch to Mike Carp even though he has a lefty ready in the ‘pen. You know the rest of the story…

  33. blake September 12th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    I think Buck is going to hold a 30 minute minute whine session tonight and dedicate it to Mo.

  34. MG September 12th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    For him to be successful, he needs to introduce the CU and slider early in the game to keep the O’s batters off his FB… Both to lefties and righties
    ——————-
    luis, I will disagree with you on this-for Hughes to be successful, he has to locate and command his fastball far better than he has in many of his starts.

    He was much better off last year and in prior years when he could locate his fastball to any of the four quadrants, he doesn’t seem able to do that with any sort of consistency this year so gets hammered when he makes mistakes.

    Without his fastball command his secondary pitches aren’t going to help because they aren’t good enough.

    I’m hoping he does all of this tonight, the Yankees, just like the last two, really need a win…

  35. MG September 12th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    blake September 12th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    I think Buck is going to hold a 30 minute minute whine session tonight and dedicate it to Mo
    ————————
    blake, I think I’ve mentioned this before but a friend of mine is the O’s team chiropractor during spring training and has gotten to know the players as well as the manager and coaching staff pretty well. He is really the one responsible for Brian Roberts getting back on the field again.

    Anyway, I asked him one day about Buck and he said off the field and in private he is really, really funny and a very good guy. I just think he is uber-competitive and in the heat of the game that side of him takes over.

  36. longtimefan September 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    MG
    Warren hasn’t gone more than 3 or 4 innings all season so isn’t anything better

    And some starts Hughes can’t get through that many innings, genius

  37. Doreen September 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    In baseball, everything is loooong. Long season, long at-bats, long innings. There is a lot of time for things to go wrong because it’s difficult for human beings to be perfect over and over and over again.

    Stuff happens. Sometimes it seems to make sense and sometimes it doesn’t seem to make sense. And guys make decisions that sometimes succeed and sometimes fail, because it’s not like you can order up the perfect scenario every time. Past success and past performance can inform your decisions, but they can’t guarantee the outcome.

    You can put everything in place and make what you think is a flawless decision based on whatever you base it on, and it’ll get mucked up. And on the other hand, you can have a situation where nothing should work and things go perfectly!

    It’s the must frustrating sport. It’s a soap opera. It’s a rollercoaster.

    You’ll never have a 162-0 team in MLB.

    Look at some of the pitchers who have thrown no-hitters or perfect games. It’s not necessarily always the best pitchers in the league.

    This is the end of my philosophical revery. ;)

  38. luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    MG,

    Good point about commanding his FB… You are right on that regard… But even if his command is very good ( Granted it hasn’t been that great this year ), he needs to mix and match his other pitches from the get go… Otherwise the basic strategy of the O’s batters is going to be wait and sit for a FB… That’s why I say that the CU is so important in this game… If not, even if his command is outstanding he is going to get hurt eventually… We will see a fouling parade until they can square one up… The CU messes up with the batters timing and that’s key IMHO

  39. luis September 12th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Good post Doreen….

  40. Doreen September 12th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    luis -

    It’s just that sometimes it’s so frustrating – trying to work out what’s going to happen, what someone should do, etc.

    :)

    If everyone did what everyone was supposed to do, you’d still have someone winning and someone losing.

  41. luis September 12th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Doreen,

    Very wise words… But if you do everything right and you lose there are no regrets… You have regrets when you don’t do them… But you are spot on, they are human beings that will make mistakes..

  42. luis September 12th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Let’s hope it’s the O’s that make the most! ;)

  43. MG September 12th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
    MG,

    Good point about commanding his FB… You are right on that regard… But even if his command is very good ( Granted it hasn’t been that great this year ), he needs to mix and match his other pitches from the get go… Otherwise the basic strategy of the O’s batters is going to be wait and sit for a FB… That’s why I say that the CU is so important in this game… If not, even if his command is outstanding he is going to get hurt eventually… We will see a fouling parade until they can square one up… The CU messes up with the batters timing and that’s key IMHO
    ———————-
    luis, I know you have pitched (as you know I have) and while I agree on the need for secondary pitch effectiveness most power pitchers can get through a batting order 1X without really using them.

    I think it was Curt Schilling who said that he almost never threw an offspeed pitch the first time through the order and then made adjustments the next time thru to make the batters think a little.

    That’s really what I mean about Hughes, he can get outs with his fastball if he locates but he just hasn’t been able to consistently throw to different spots with it during an at bat, everything kind of morphs to middle-in and belt high and that is where a good major league hitter will get his best swings.

  44. blake September 12th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    “Anyway, I asked him one day about Buck and he said off the field and in private he is really, really funny and a very good guy. I just think he is uber-competitive and in the heat of the game that side of him takes over.”

    I’m sure he is….he’s obviously very intelligent and always seemed like a good guy when he was on TV……he just annoys me as a manager….he whines a lot.

  45. blake September 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Speaking of Brian Roberts…..good grief has that guy been snake bitten in his career

  46. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    luis September 12th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
    Good afternoon guys,

    I love the way Alex is playing… He seems to be on a mission…
    —————————————————————————
    I refer back to the post-game interview he conducted after being eliminated from
    the playoffs last year.
    ARod appeared determined to make a big comeback and work hard to get his game
    back in order.
    Appears he has put in the work and he certainly has a huge chip on his shoulder.

  47. Wave Your Hat September 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “If everyone did what everyone was supposed to do, you’d still have someone winning and someone losing.”

    The fact remains, though, that if you do what you are supposed to do (and by that I mean making the best decision based on the information available at the time of the decision, or executing correctly whatever action is undertaken), you certainly increase your chances of winning considerably.

  48. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    blake September 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    Speaking of Brian Roberts…..good grief has that guy been snake bitten in his career
    ——————————————————————–
    I have suspected him on being a PED user.
    Guy goes from having about a dozen career HR’s to hitting 18 in one season
    and an all-star appearance.

  49. MG September 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    longtimefan September 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    MG
    Warren hasn’t gone more than 3 or 4 innings all season so isn’t anything better

    And some starts Hughes can’t get through that many innings, genius
    ——————
    given your inability to answer the question posed in the first sentence on that post to cut out of context I’m guessing the word ‘genius’ hasn’t been used much, if ever, in your presence.

    My answer, which I posted earlier today, was to start Hughes and have him on a very short leash, if he isn’t getting out early you get him out of there, which is exactly what Girardi will do.

    At the same time, if he is throwing the ball well he gives you the best chance at a quality start and a win.

    But continue your whining…

  50. bruceb September 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Talking of Mo, I guess he will be unavailable tonight? Let’s hope we need someone (else) to save the game. A series win in Baltimore would be massive after the Red Sox debacle.

  51. blake September 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    “Guy goes from having about a dozen career HR’s to hitting 18 in one season
    and an all-star appearance.”

    I don’t think that means anything really…..guys hit more homers as they mature and sometimes you just catch balls right in a season…….I think he’s just fragile like Glassbury

  52. Doreen September 12th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Wave Your Hat -

    But it’s a two-sided thing.

    If the other side does the same, does not their probability of success increase, too?

    You see the dilemma here?

    Talent should be the deciding factor, I suppose, but as I’m thinking about this, if a team’s pitching and defense executes perfectly, and a hitter executes perfectly, which side is more likely to succeed?

    Is it the defensive side, because there are people positioned to make outs even on well-hit balls? Or is it the hitter, who perfectly swings and hits a perfectly executed pitch? Or can you hit a perfectly executed pitch at all?

    Someone’s going to fail. Someone’s going to succeed. All the time.

  53. luis September 12th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    MG,

    I do know that you have pitched… I guess we identify our breed very quickly ;) And Schilling is right ( Bartolo does it on a regular basis with just two FB’s)… I guess that I don’t consider Hughes FB that good any more… He was throwing 92 in relief the other day… We need this game badly ( all of them in truth )… So going from there is that I think he needs to mix and match from the get go… I am afraid if he relies solely on his FB from the get go he will get hammered… Add the natural crisis of confidence that he is certainly going through and it could be a really short night for him… Let’s hope I am wrong and you are right and he rediscovers his lost plus FB with superb command

  54. austinmac September 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    I think there may be something to the concept that AROD has finally stopped caring about what people say and that is a benefit. He has, I believe, some need to be loved issues. I also think that explains(not excuses) a lot.

  55. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    bruceb September 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
    Talking of Mo, I guess he will be unavailable tonight? Let’s hope we need someone (else) to save the game. A series win in Baltimore would be massive after the Red Sox debacle.
    ————————————————————————————————
    Robertson might be available tonight.
    Not sure about Kelley

    I can’t imagine a scenario where Mo is pitching tonight. Unless of course the game goes
    about 20 innings and he’s the last arm in the pen.

    When there is a question about who is going to close, there is only 1 solution.
    BLOWOUT!!!

    Yankees need to get an early lead, add to that lead often and win the game tonight
    by more than 3 runs.

  56. Wave Your Hat September 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    “But it’s a two-sided thing.
    If the other side does the same, does not their probability of success increase, too?
    You see the dilemma here?”

    Yes although I think that seldom happens. But I don’t deny the role of randomness in sports, or in life.

  57. tomingeorgia September 12th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Doreen,
    You’re correct, but that’s why they play the games: to find out who’s less perfect that day.

  58. Wave Your Hat September 12th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    “I think there may be something to the concept that AROD has finally stopped caring about what people say and that is a benefit.”

    I think the operation was a success and he’s back to being what he was before, age factored in.

  59. Doreen September 12th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    tomingeorgia -

    Yes!

    WYH -

    I’m just being philosophical here. It’s at least as productive as trying to figure out how Hughes is going to do tonight. ;)

  60. Warning Track Power September 12th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    luis September 12th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    MG,

    I do know that you have pitched… I guess we identify our breed very quickly ;) And Schilling is right ( Bartolo does it on a regular basis with just two FB’s)… I guess that I don’t consider Hughes FB that good any more… He was throwing 92 in relief the other day… We need this game badly ( all of them in truth )… So going from there is that I think he needs to mix and match from the get go… I am afraid if he relies solely on his FB from the get go he will get hammered… Add the natural crisis of confidence that he is certainly going through and it could be a really short night for him… Let’s hope I am wrong and you are right and he rediscovers his lost plus FB with superb command
    ———————————————————————-
    Colon’s FB is superior to Hughes. Why? Because Colon’s has movement and his command is far better.
    Hughes really has no idea where his FB is going coming out of the hand. One of his major problems.
    So the solution is throw those breaking balls for strikes and keep the hitters off balance.
    Such a simple solution but the moron to date insists on doing things the hard way.

  61. MG September 12th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    luis September 12th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    MG,

    I do know that you have pitched… I guess we identify our breed very quickly ;) And Schilling is right ( Bartolo does it on a regular basis with just two FB’s)… I guess that I don’t consider Hughes FB that good any more… He was throwing 92 in relief the other day… We need this game badly ( all of them in truth )… So going from there is that I think he needs to mix and match from the get go… I am afraid if he relies solely on his FB from the get go he will get hammered… Add the natural crisis of confidence that he is certainly going through and it could be a really short night for him… Let’s hope I am wrong and you are right and he rediscovers his lost plus FB with superb command
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    luis, I hope we are both right and he pitches his best game of the season, they really need it.

    I didn’t see the game on Friday when he pitched in relief but even with throwing 92 he should have been able to get outs-Tillman shut down the Yankees the other night throwing less than that.

    If it’s a confidence issue then he’s done for the year and with the Yankees, it’s too late for him to recover from that this year.

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  63. MG September 12th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

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    If I’m Girardi I tell him before the game that he can’t shake off any signs and to just throw to the glove, wherever it is. That takes the mental part of out the equation. Let Stewart (and the bench call the game), just let him pitch it.

    I’m not a fan at all of pitchers who shake off catchers all of the time, they are just overthinking. Get the ball, get set, and throw it to the glove, let the chips fall where they may…

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    MG September 12th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    WTP, I’m far from a Hughes fan anymore but he throws strikes, he just can’t throw to spots most of the time and he’s probably lost lots of confidence in his breaking pitches.

    If I’m Girardi I tell him before the game that he can’t shake off any signs and to just throw to the glove, wherever it is. That takes the mental part of out the equation. Let Stewart (and the bench call the game), just let him pitch it.

    I’m not a fan at all of pitchers who shake off catchers all of the time, they are just overthinking. Get the ball, get set, and throw it to the glove, let the chips fall where they may…
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    well that would be a good start.
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    i have lost count how many times i have been screaming at Hughes to throw a breaking ball, but he tosses up another FB and the ball is either hit hard or comes nowhere close
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