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Postgame notes: “I’ve been breaking a lot this year”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 14, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC Sabathia

Let’s acknowledge this much: Wins and losses are a pretty bad way to evaluate a pitcher. But let’s also acknowledge this: One of CC Sabathia’s greatest strengths for four years was his ability to win. His very best days might not have been as overwhelming as Justin Verlander’s or Felix Hernandez’s, but Sabathia’s absolute worst days were still winable games. It’s a big part of what made him an ace, a workhorse and a Cy Young candidate.

“I’ve always been a guy that’s said bend, don’t break,” Sabathia said. “I’ve been breaking a lot this year.”

Sabathia’s been perfectly beatable this year, hence the .500 record and . He seems to have reigned in that home run problem he had a few months ago, but he still has games like today when scoring opportunities consistently lead to runs. The Red Sox scored at least one run in four straight innings. Sabathia used to stop that sort of thing. He’d make a pitch when he needed to, get a double play when he had to, and keep things close enough to give the Yankees a chance.

In the past four years, Sabathia averaged — essentially — an 18-7 record. That’s five more wins and six fewer losses than he has this year. Turn six Yankees losses into wins — or five losses into wins — and they’re leading the for the first wild card spot.

“I don’t ever think like that,” Joe Girardi said. “It’s always more than one guy. I think by the question you’re asking, you’re putting it on one guy, in a sense, and I don’t think that’s fair to do. It’s 25 — well, 55 for us — that need to contribute.”

That’s perfectly fair and true. Injuries have been relentless, the offense has come and gone, and the bulk of the pitching staff has struggled down the stretch. But even Sabathia said he has thought about the difference he could have made with just one or two improved outings.

“A hundred percent,” Sabathia said. “Especially tonight. It’s tough. … It hasn’t been coming along as quick as I wanted to. Very frustrating, because everybody keeps telling me I’m close. But I don’t see it. I want results, and I know the team wants results. I know the fans want results. It’s just tough not being able to deliver.”

Curtis Granderson, Vernon Wells• Girardi would not necessarily concede that the Red Sox are better than the Yankees this season, but he did concede that they’ve played better recently. “Yeah, well, they have,” Girardi said. “They have. They scored a ton of runs on us at our place. Today was the second-fewest runs we gave them in seven games. They’re swinging the bats extremely well. They went to Tampa and played well. I mean, they’re playing really well. But we’re coming off a series In Baltimore where we played extremely well, too.”

• The only Yankees hitter to have a good day was Curtis Granderson, who had a terrific day with two extra-base hits and the Yankees only run. Hard to do much with that regardless of the pitching.

• Trying to get to the root of Sabathia’s problem today, Girardi turned to the usual: “I think it comes down to he’s had some issues where the ball has cut on him,” Girardi said. “That’s usually what it is. He juts doesn’t locate it. I think his stuff is plenty good enough to control lineups.”

• Sabathia said cutting really wasn’t the issue today. “I didn’t throw many balls that cut today,” he said. “I was just up, out, on the side, maybe flying open a little bit; something me and Larry can look at one video. I just need to be better. … I feel like earlier in the year I didn’t have the stuff to compete, so maybe that’s why I was getting hit around. I feel like right now I have the stuff, it’s just me putting together a good game.”

• After so many of these Sabathia starts, the same question has been raised — the health one — but Sabathia was a little more defiant in answering it today. “I feel great physically,” he said. “I want the ball. I wish I could pitch tomorrow and try to help this team, but I have to wait my turn. I’ll go out and try to be better next time out.”

J.R. Murphy• This was J.R. Murphy’s first Major League start. “My nerves calmed down after the first inning and I was fine,” he said. “… The last thing you want to do is over-think it. There’s a lot of information that I have to retain before the game in order to attack their lineup. That’s my job. I feel like we did an OK job today. Still room for improvement.”

• Murphy said he felt like he and Sabathia were on the same page. “I felt a lot more comfortable out there early on than I thought because we caught him a lot in bullpens,” Murphy said. “I’ve also seen him in spring training. I talked to Larry, talked to Joe, talked to Romine, talked to Stewart. All those guys have been really helpful to make sure I was on the same page today.”

• Murphy didn’t know he was starting until he got to the park this morning. That surprised me a little bit, but maybe Girardi didn’t want to make the kid nervous all night.

• It was pretty late that the Alfonso Soriano scratch was announced, and that’s because it was pretty late when Girardi found out. “We just scrambled because it was a little later today,” Girardi said. “I think it was about 12:20 that he informed us, so I had to figure out what we were going to do. I knew who we were going to put in, but had to figure out what order you were going to put guys in today.”

• Three hits was the Yankees lowest total since getting just hits on July 27 against the Rays. This was the seventh time this season the Yankees were held to three hits or fewer.

• In five starts against the Red Sox this season Sabathia has a 7.22 ERA.

• Robinson Cano tied Dave Winfield for 16th place on the Yankees all-time RBI list. Cano’s RBI groundout in the fourth inning was his 818th career RBI.

• Final word might as well go to Sabathia: “It’s tough when you don’t have your stuff against these guys, but you just try to go out and battle and do what I could. It wasn’t good enough. It hasn’t been good enough all year. I’ve got a few more starts left. Hopefully I can be a lot better.”

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190 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I’ve been breaking a lot this year””

  1. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    MTU,
    I like the B&W better. More contrast and drama. Put a little more contrast in and I’d like it even better. I am a poor judge, to be sure. It’s just what I like.

  2. austinmac September 14th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    MTU,

    My wife and I loved them both but the B&W was surreal and our favorite.

  3. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Thanks Tom.

    Appreciate that. I want the raw response from a non-professional.

    Just the way it happens to hit you.

    You have to understand that people view these on a great variety of screen types.

    How I set things might look different because of what I use.

  4. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Thanks Mac.

    Glad you both viewed them.

    That is one of the few monochromes I have ever done.

    I thought it might be well suited.

    Normally I prefer the value that color adds.

  5. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    I’ll check back later.

    ;)

  6. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    MTU,
    Viewing it on whatever type of screen devalues it. I’d like to look at it hanging on a wall.

  7. jacksquat September 14th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    MTU, I like both. :)

  8. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Jack-

    Thanks. Glad you liked them.

    Tom-

    I’m considering having the monochrome done on metallic paper.

    That would really make things pop.

  9. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    MTU,
    IMO, metellic would be over the top and not for me, but I don’t have a clue to what the market wants. Go straight, Ansel style.

  10. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    Thanks again for the opinion Tom.

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    joeman is in for 85.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    MTU – loved the black and white. It somehow reminded me of The Ten Commandments, I think when Moses parted the Red Sea. It has a very dramatic effect!

  13. Ed Whitson September 14th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    I wish CC would:

    a) drop 65 pounds or so
    b) adapt to his loss of velocity
    c) maybe move to the far right of the rubber to give extra incline to his curve
    d) pitch to both sides of the plate. He doesn’t come inside nearly enough
    e) and retire before 2014. He sucks.

  14. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Thanks for the feedback and compliment Trisha.

  15. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Pray for rain in my birthplace, Minneapolis.

  16. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    MTU,
    I’m sorry the artistes among us don’t seem to be around to critique. As for internet images, they’re kind of like e-books. I’d rather hold something in my hand, something tangible, than scan pixels.

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Incredible game going on in Detroit. KC leading 1-0 in the bottom of the 7th!

    And take a look at the pitcher so many Yankee fans couldn’t wait to get rid of – Bartolo Colon. 1-0 over Texas. Final score.

    I will say that these are both total illustrations of the power of pitching over the power of hitting, since KC and Oakland and 2 in the AL in pitching! Detroit is #2 in offense, Texas is #8.

    Bartolo Colon – the pitcher Yankee fans couldn’t wait to toss on the trash heap. I’ll say this. Either he just regained his old form or you have to believe that PEDs are as mighty as they are touted to be!

    And don’t look now, but the O’s are #3 in offense, Oakland #4. Oakland 2 in pitching, 4 in offense? That certainly bodes well for Oakland!

    Unfortunately the Yanks have dropped to 10 in pitching in the AL, and 10 in offense. Realistically they shouldn’t even be in the hunt. But there’s been some kind of magic going on, while at the same time, our players are being picked off by a slingshot, one by one.

    Also unfortunately, all of our “rivals” except Baltimore have either put up wins, or are winning their games.

    I continue to say that Cleveland definitely has the easiest schedule. But maybe someone out there is getting ready to play spoiler.

    The Yanks are in it until they are not, so as of this moment, they could still be the second wild card.

    If anything happens that they’re not – and I’m with MTU in feeling so proud of that team no matter what ends up happening – I just want to see the Sux get smashed to smithereens. Or get defeated, even if it isn’t of the smithereen-smashing variety.

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    MTU – check out these images!

    http://www.wingclips.com/movie.....sea?play=1

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    http://www.wingclips.com/movie.....god?play=1

    Seriously.

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    That should have said KC and Oakland are 1 and 2 in pitching.

  21. benfica356 September 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    and the royals win by throwing out prince at home

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    What a dramatic ending! Can you imagine how excited Oakland an KC fans have to be. The race this year is absolutely crazy, and of course that’s because of the addition of the 2nd WC. The same kinds of things are happening in the NL.

  23. benfica356 September 14th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    yankees need to get the wild card. Gotta believe

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    And Texas went from +3 in the WC to +0.5.

    Texas – +0.5

    Tampa – —

    Cleveland – 1.5

    Yankees – 2.5

    Baltimore – 3.0

    KC – 3.0

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    benfica356, with 13 games left to play, it’s anybody’s game. It really is.

  26. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Thanks Trisha.

    Those are indeed awesome.

    :)

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    MTU – I just think that they look almost like your picture!

  28. joeman September 14th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    my have to put heat on in house tonite

  29. joeman September 14th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    For MO

  30. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Trisha-

    I think Cecil B.’s are just a little bit better.

    But thanks for including me along with a genius of film making.

    I should quit while I’m ahead.

    You’d be surprised at the wide variety of responses I’ve received.

    Art is so subjective. It’s why I try to keep my own counsel in the end. It is my vision after all.

    :)

  31. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    My thanks to all of you who were nice enough to comment.

    I’ll see you all tomorrow.

    Dream well. Dream sweet.

    :)

  32. UnKnown September 14th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Game about to begin at Target Field, that’s the bad news. Good news is Moore is at least out of the game because of the delay.

    Twins are pitiful though. Got to just hope for the best. If the Twins can either comeback tonight or win tomorrow I would take that.

  33. joeman September 14th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Cleve schedule is so soft

  34. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.
    -Thomas Paine

    Substitute a few words, and it describes our situation. Funny thing, the grammar checker does not like Painea’ usage.

  35. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    Joeman-

    Ours is soft too after tomorrow.

    We 3 of our 4 last series with last place teams.

    And we want head to head play w Tampa at home.

  36. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    MTU,
    What, you don’t have Panavision?

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    MTU, let me restate my position, without choosing whose shot is superior!

    Your photo looks like it could have been the background that Cecil B. used in the Red Sea scene. Can’t you see the similarity!? That’s what I meant.

    :)

  38. joeman September 14th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    MTU September 14th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
    Joeman-

    Ours is soft too after tomorrow.

    We 3 of our 4 last series with last place teams.

    And we want head to head play w Tampa at home.

    —————————————-
    Boys need to step up and get it done….need the SP to put some solid starts together …
    FOR MO

  39. joeman September 14th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    I say tomorrow is a huge game for them.

  40. MTU September 14th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    Trisha-

    Kind of dramatic clouds. Got that part.

    Thanks.

    Tom-

    I have “panned” vision.

    See ya’ tomorrow.

    ;)

  41. UnKnown September 14th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    There will be a tiebreaker game on Sept. 30th that is nearly a definite. Could easily be one the following day too.

    There is just to many teams to close together. Rangers falling back in the mix as well. 6 teams for 2 spots. 4 teams are going to be awfully disappointed. Glad we are not going to be one of them. :wink:

  42. Triple Short of a Cycle September 14th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    The race this year is absolutely crazy, and of course that’s because of the addition of the 2nd WC

    ——————————–

    Yea lets celebrate mediocrity

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.

    GO YANKEES!!!!!

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    MTU – the ground too, with Yul!!!

    **************

    “Yea lets celebrate mediocrity”

    It appears that we’d be celebrating “mediocrity” with the first wild card in the AL also. Or are you saying you long for the days of AL winner vs. NL winner, one and only round? Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.

    :)

  45. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Triple,
    “Da rules is the rules.” That’s the way it is. I want that spot, or better.

  46. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Only in the AL East has only one team been eliminated. Tough division?

  47. jacksquat September 14th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    I just looked at the rest of Cleveland’s schedule. :(

  48. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    trisha,
    Back in the day, with 8 teams in each league, that was the way to do it. With expansion, and this 3 division setup, and now, 15 teams in each league, what are you going to do? I think the third wildcard stinks, but there it is for the taking. Let’s get it for us!

  49. blake September 14th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    Nice….I’m havin a hard time finding any decent corn now…..seasons about over

  50. joeman September 14th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Holding back the years
    Chance for me to escape from all I’ve known
    Holding back the tears
    Cause nothing here has grown
    I’ve wasted all my tears
    Wasted all those years
    And nothing had the chance to be good
    Nothing ever could yeah

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    tom, I’m with you. I guess we could always implore the Yankees just to drop out of the race and stop playing for the rest of the season because we’re against the 2nd wild card, but I don’t think they’d do it. So we may as well root for them.

    Ho hum.

  52. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    blake,
    Don’t worry, the first Florida crop will be coming soon.

  53. Triple Short of a Cycle September 14th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    I think the Wild Card has cheapened baseball. Teams that are a few games over 500 are still in it. Baseball was the one sport where the regular season meant everything.Now it is slowly morphing into all the other sports

  54. tomingeorgia September 14th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Your everlasting summer
    You can see it fading fast
    So you grab a piece of something
    That you think is gonna last
    You wouldn’t know a diamond
    If you held it in your hand
    The things you think are precious
    I can’t understand

    But the Yanks will prevail.

  55. yankinvegas September 14th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Win tomorrow and we still have a shot.
    Then go 5 and 1 v. Tor and SF, 2 wins v. TB and sweep Hou gives us 11 and to finish with 90 wins.
    A lot of head to heads coming up :
    Cle at KC
    Tex at TB
    Balt at TB
    Tex at KC
    TB at NYY
    Plus the Orioles have 2 series with Bos and Tex finishes with LAA who hate them.
    I don’t care who wins Tex at TB but I hope the team that wins thye 1st game sweeps the series.
    The problem, besides us going 11 and 2 with no pitching and no leadoff and a comprised Sori and Al, is Cleveland. After KC they play nobody – Hou, CWS & Min. Hopefully Sale will beat them tomorrow to get us within 1 game.
    Bottom line though is any team that is 0 and 4 against the Mets and was swept by CWS is going to deservedly have a real tough time getting into postseason.

  56. jacksquat September 14th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    The regular season determines the best teams, the postseason is just a tournament.

  57. Triple Short of a Cycle September 14th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    It used to determine the best teams.Not anymore

  58. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Triple, actually I agree with you. I don’t know how you do it any other way with the number of teams, but there was a time when the two best teams in baseball faced each other for it all. Now it turns into a total crapshoot where it is possible that a team that just about makes it into the playoffs ends up taking it all, while perhaps the team that has achieved throughout the season falls short for any number of reasons, one being that long layoffs are known to hurt the momentum of the teams who clinch earliest.

    It used to be that the WS champion was truly the best team in baseball. Now we’ve seen that it can also be merely the team that gets hottest at the right time. Those two things may intersect, but we’ve certainly seen where they haven’t.

  59. bruceb September 14th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Trish, they’re not trying to find the best team in baseball any more. They’re just looking for the best TV ratings.

  60. bruceb September 14th, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    Second wild card has succeeded in keeping the slightly above average teams in the mix.

  61. Giuseppe Franco September 14th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Look at it this way, if there wasn’t a 2nd WC this season, the Yanks’ season would have been over by the trade deadline.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 14th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    bruceb – unfortunately you’re right. America’s favorite pastime has been so basta*dized that it’s now really not much more than an enormous commercial enterprise primarily designed to bring in money. It’s been used and abused, and commissioners like the current miserable little rat have been at the forefront of allowing travesty after travesty, as long as $$$$ danced in, in the process.

  63. tomingeorgia September 15th, 2013 at 12:09 am

    trisha,
    The job of the Commissioner of the MLB is to promote the game, which means draw more fans, sell more stuff, and make his employers more money. He’s done that, in spades. I agree, the current one isn’t my cup of tea, but he’s been worth his pay to his employers.

  64. rm September 15th, 2013 at 12:18 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue
    It used to be that the WS champion was truly the best team in baseball. Now we’ve seen that it can also be merely the team that gets hottest at the right time. Those two things may intersect, but we’ve certainly seen where they haven’t.
    —————————————————————————-
    Even before the playoff system the best team in baseball didn’t always win 1960 and 1968 come to mind as years whwn the best team didn’t win. But at least before 1969 the best team in baseball won the world series most of the time. After 1969 that is no longer true

  65. rm September 15th, 2013 at 12:24 am

    bruceb September 14th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
    Second wild card has succeeded in keeping the slightly above average teams in the mix.

    ——————–
    It also allows truly exceptional teams that have had some bad luck – like thw Yankees have had with inuries – to have a chance to win the series. If the Yankees win the 2nd wild card, The wild card game ans 3 playoff series I would consider them a truly exceptional team.

  66. JT September 15th, 2013 at 12:51 am

    Yankinvegas….that’s the formula from here on. 11-2 in the final 13. Very little margin for error.

  67. sammiejohnson September 15th, 2013 at 3:18 am

    joeman September 14th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    what do I win if I hit my 85 win total for this season

    ___________________________________________________________

    Well, only half of what you were going to get. Check Trisha’s chart. I also have 85. (But I STILL hope we win more than that).

  68. Triple Short of a Cycle September 15th, 2013 at 7:04 am

    Look at it this way, if there wasn’t a 2nd WC this season, the Yanks’ season would have been over by the trade deadline.

    ———————————-

    and rightfully so. This team has no business being close or in the playoffs

  69. blake September 15th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    The current 2 WC teams have the exact same record ….so even if there was only 1 WC the yanks would still the the same amount back

  70. blake September 15th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    The yanks need to win 10 or 11 of their final 13 games to have a chance.

    The pitching staff as a whole is on fumes…. I think with a normal CC they perhaps would be right there this year…..with every in else that’s gone wrong it was always almost impossible to get it done with a 5 era Sabathia

  71. pat September 15th, 2013 at 8:00 am

    From Joel Shermans column today. The answers can be found there.

    “Here is a fun game to play with a diehard Yankees fan: Ask him to name the four Davids (?,?,? and?), three Chrises (?,? and ?), two Travises (? and ?), two Marks (? and ?) and two Franciscos (? and ?).”

    Who was the player who couldn’t get into Yankee Stadium because security had no idea who he was?
    Who was the position player who pitched?
    Who was the Opening Day DH?

  72. Doreen September 15th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    MTU

    Good morning. I just looked at the two photographs. My preference is the one with color, because it gives me a more uplifting feeling, a feeling of hope. That despite the clouds with touches of deep gray, there are blue skies and I just love the magnificence of the colors in the landscape.

    But I think it depends on the story you want to tell. The B&W is also striking, but is more foreboding. There is no hint of those brighter skies just ahead. And it looks like something more troubling is roiling.

    I think your audience for each is very different.

    Triple Short, none of the teams in contention for a second wild card spot in the AL deserves to sniff the playoffs when you look through the more traditional lens. It’s not pure anymore and I agree that the wild card situation makes the first 5 months of the baseball season somehow less important. It is a set up for the playoffs instead of a long battle where the strongest team emerges over time. Once baseball expanded to the point that they introduced divisional play it changed, but when it was just the two divisions per league, it still felt okay.

    Baseball has over expanded in my opinion, and the lack of balanced schedules and increased interleague play seems gimmicky. It’s good for business but not wonderful for the purist

    But as long as the rules are what they are, and the set up is what it is, my team, the Yankees, may as well benefit. There have been recent years where clearly the Yankees were the best in baseball and yet were defeated by teams on a late -season surge. What I’m not comfortable with as a Yankee fan is if the intent before the season even begins is to field a team that isn’t built to dominate. Things happen over the course of a season, and a team may have to adjust and reset their sights. But the sight on Opening Day has to be to win the division.

  73. Doreen September 15th, 2013 at 8:07 am

    pat, all from this season?

    I know i Can’t do it because as the player roulette was going on, I often didn’t know who was out there!! And I didn’t care that I didn’t know because I figured those guys wouldn’t be around long enough anyway.

  74. pat September 15th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    Doreen
    Yes, all this year.
    55 players have played for the team this year. Something unusual for teams above .500 and trying for the traveling secretary says Sherman.

  75. Doreen September 15th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Just finished reading the article, pat. What a wild season! And makes me shake my head even more that they are anywhere close to still be contending for that wild card spot! The poor traveling secretary!!!!!

  76. pat September 15th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Reading about Kotsay and Helton announcing their retirements at the end of this season and appreciating how grueling the game/season is for players.

  77. MTU September 15th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    New thread ——->

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