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Postgame notes: “I wanted to pitch for something that means something”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 26, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Eduardo Nunez, Brendan Ryan, Robinson Cano, Mark Reynolds

It was late in the eighth inning when the Indians finished off a win against the White Sox. The Yankees were already in a quite a hole at that point, and the out-of-town scoreboard showed the Cleveland score. In the Yankees dugout, Joe Girardi noticed and knew what it meant.

The Yankees were about to play their first meaningless inning of the season.

“You know, and it hurts,” Girardi said. “… You can look back just 10 days ago or whatever it was when we won three out of four in Baltimore. We were right there. Today was probably a reality check for me. I knew it was going to be extremely difficult, but I believed we would get there.”

David HuffBlame the injuries. Blame the lack of pitching near the end, the lack of hitting in the middle, or the lack of just about everything down the stretch. Blame Girardi. Blame Cashman. Blame Sabathia or Hughes, Youkilis or Ichiro. Blame Cano for not running out of the box, Stewart for not hitting better than .207, or Jeter for never getting healthy. This was not a one-game problem or a one-man problem. There’s plenty of blame to go around if that’s what you’re looking for.

“I know they’ve all worked their tail end off,” Girardi said. “But I’m never at a point where I believe it’s OK not to have success.”

Now Robinson Cano is has only free agency to look forward to.

“It’s a really sad feeling,” Cano said. “Now you go home and it’s something that’s going to be on my mind, in my head and my heart, maybe until next season. All you want is to make it to the playoffs.”

Mariano Rivera has only retirement ahead of him.

“I’m not used to pitching for something that doesn’t mean anything,” he said. “I wanted to pitch for something that means something.”

And the Yankees have four days to play out the string before finishing this season of disappointment and entering an offseason of uncertainty.

“I always look at it as we didn’t play well enough,” Girardi said. “I always believe in my heart that you can find a way to do more. That’s everyone included. I said it starts with me, and I’ll never think any different.”

Joe Girardi, Phil Hughes• Alex Rodriguez complained about his sore legs, which is the reason he came out of tonight’s game. “His legs aren’t great, so I pinch hit for him,” Girardi said. “… He just told me his legs weren’t great, and he was going to go take care of them. And I said, ‘OK, go take care of them.’”

• Certainly sounds like Rodriguez might not be in the lineup tomorrow, but Girardi said he will manage tomorrow fully attempting to win. With the Rays still in the race, Girardi said he owes that much to the rest of the American League.

• Brutal final start for Phil Hughes, who was pulled after four straight hits to start the third inning. He was charged with three runs in two-plus innings to finish the season with a 5.19 ERA. “It’s difficult (to pitch with confidence),” Hughes said. “It’s difficult when things snowball the way they do. Bad start after bad start, sure, you starting doubting yourself at times, and that’s difficult to bounce back from. Getting taken out of the rotation, you certainly kind of question your abilities at times, and this game can humble you really, really quick. That was something that was hard to bounce back from. I tried to fight and battle my entire way through this year and just didn’t seem to work out.”

• Hughes finished 1-10 in 16 starts at Yankee Stadium this season, becoming the second pitcher in Major League history to win fewer than two home games in a season in which he made at least 15 home starts. The only other one was Toronto’s Phil Huffman — must be something in the name — who went 1-9 in 16 starts at Exhibition Stadium in 1979. That’s from Elias. I did not know that off the top of my head.

• Kind of an awkward time to pull Hughes after the bad call at third base, but that was technically the fourth hit of the inning, and Hughes was getting knocked around again. Hard to be too stunned by the quick hook in the third. “I thought he had some unlucky bounces today, but at that time, I thought it was time to go to Huffy,” Girardi said. “They had left, right, left (due up in the inning). They got the one run after that in that inning. I just felt it was time.”

Mariano Rivera• It seems reasonable to think this might have been Hughes’ final appearance with the Yankees. “I haven’t thought about it,” Hughes said. “We still have some games to play, and obviously from there it’s going to be a long winter, longer than I’m used to being here. I haven’t really let myself reflect on that right now, but there will be a time for that.”

• Would Hughes like to be back with the Yankees? “Absolutely,” he said. “It’s all I know.”

• Although he was clearly frustrated by the idea of pitching in a meaningless game, Rivera made it clear he’ll be ready to pitch tomorrow. “I’ll be there tomorrow, hopefully, God willing, and (be) there for the fans,” he said. “They deserve it.”

• Said Cano: “That’s something I’m looking forward to: To see Mariano for the last time at Yankee Stadium.”

• This is the second time in the past 19 years that the Yankees have been eliminated from postseason play. They lost for the eighth time in 11 games. They’ve gone 3-6 against the Rays at Yankee Stadium this season, their third losing home season series ever against Tampa Bay (also 2005 and 2010).

• Final word goes to Hughes, who was asked if the Yankees should be amazed that they stayed in the race this long, all things considered: “That’s hard to say,” Hughes said. “You don’t really have time to think about it when you’re going through it. I think that you just pass the baton to the next guy. We pitched well at times this season, and scored some runs at times this season, and when you have games every day like we do, it’s hard to really think about those type of things. Now, looking back on it, I think we can at least say that we fought, and we fought hard with everything that we had to deal with. You can live with that.”

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82 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I wanted to pitch for something that means something””

  1. jmv September 26th, 2013 at 12:23 am

    Honestly, JAP,

    I don’t see them going with two kids, specially at C, not a chance if Joe is at command.

    Did you read Tar’s post? NYY is hard on the kids.

    Take notice, FO: you were great for almost twenty years. The main reason: you gave opportunities to a couple of young kids: Jorge and Derek. Remember the best closer ever? You gave him the role on his second season. Learn from the past!

  2. ant928 September 26th, 2013 at 12:23 am

    Well…time to warm up the Stove…

  3. UnKnown September 26th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    That picture of Cano up top sums up my look throughout most of the year. Especially the last 2 weeks.

    How can you lose that game on Sunday. MO’s ceremony and Andy is on the mound with a no hitter into the 6th. And you score one run. Then you got one more shot maybe, but you need to for sure win the the last 6 and you get shutout last night. I mean How. Does. That. Happen.

  4. jmv September 26th, 2013 at 12:29 am

    Tar,

    McCann is really good, but I’d pass because we have these good kids at C. I’d rather throw that money on an outfielder. Zoilo, what can you duo for us?

  5. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2013 at 12:29 am

    Take notice, FO: you were great for almost twenty years. The main reason: you gave opportunities to a couple of young kids: Jorge and Derek. Remember the best closer ever? You gave him the role on his second season. Learn from the past!
    ///

    took them too long to give Jorge his shot but yes to above

    I’m going to bed

    Good night

  6. jmv September 26th, 2013 at 12:30 am

    UK,

    Sunday’s loss was embarrassing. Andy and Mo didn’t deserve that

  7. jmv September 26th, 2013 at 12:31 am

    Buenas noches, JAP

  8. Tar September 26th, 2013 at 12:37 am

    jmv

    I don’t see McCann blocking…. more teaching, and than sliding over to DH. I guess it all depends on how many years he is going to get.

    Romine now has that concussion risk associated with him as well. JR/ Romine is a high risk proposition. I can’t see them doing that. Of course I said no way would they go with Stewart and Cervelli too. :shock:

    I would love McCann with a one of the youngsters backing him up.

  9. Tar September 26th, 2013 at 12:39 am

    Good night Yankee fans

  10. UnKnown September 26th, 2013 at 12:39 am

    It was very embarrassing and pathetic. The Yankee teams of old would have one that game 14 to 2. But there in lies the problem. That era of Yankee teams is over. Stinks…

    And then these last two nights really is pretty gutless as well. Sorry, harsh as it is, they have just not been professional attempts at playing the game of baseball the last two nights at all.

  11. YanksPats September 26th, 2013 at 12:40 am

    Those kids 20 years ago were drafted by someone that knew how to evaluate talent. Cashman isn’t that guy, and our farm system is barren.

  12. jmv September 26th, 2013 at 12:41 am

    Leaving, too

    Nite, all

  13. YanksPats September 26th, 2013 at 12:48 am

    You can’t have McCann. You want Alicks in 2014, that means no McCann.

  14. UnKnown September 26th, 2013 at 12:50 am

    *won

    Later Tar, Jmv, and Pruf. I’m outty as well. See you guys around some other time. Great postgame chat tonight. Thanks.

    Next year I hope to be playing October baseball in the Bronx again. Lot’s of work to be done that is for sure.

  15. UnKnown September 26th, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa
    Coming into tonight, Vernon Wells had 28 infield pop-ups and 27 extra-base hits in 447 (!!!) plate appearances this season.
    ————–
    :lol: Sucks so bad!!

  16. yankinvegas September 26th, 2013 at 1:30 am

    The only thing that got me encouraged today was reading that Cano said he would seek advice from his parents.
    His dad has said on many occasions that Robbie is a Yankee.
    Hopefully, that feeling plus the vibes from Sunday for Mo and the love that Cano sees for Jeter will bring him back to the Bronx.
    I think that he has 5 big years left and also, the NY Yankees can NEVER lose their best player because of money. I also don’t thin anyone will off 8 + years, so a 7 yr deal for $ 175 should get it done.
    Like all seasons, this one has been exhausting. Every game stresses me out, but I love the NY Yankees. I always have and I always will.

  17. Pat M. September 26th, 2013 at 1:40 am

    Bags packed and I’m flying out to NYC round 2 of the NYC Stickball Championship. We need to win 2 of 3 Friday and then 2 of 3 Saturday and well be playing Sunday night for the 50 and over bracket Championship. I’ve been all over 70 mph this week, but it’ll be the slop that is going to be the real test. Need to remember to keep the hands back. Harlem here we come .

  18. beedogs September 26th, 2013 at 2:13 am

    Pretty sad to think that my prediction of 85 wins might not even be met. This is the worst Yankees team since 1992. 21 years!

  19. pete2 September 26th, 2013 at 2:41 am

    Yankees should make a run at Napoli and Drew, move Jeter to 3B, have Napoli backup at C, spell Tex and DH. If they don’t resign Granderson they can go after Cruz. Have to resign Cano if they want to compete though, and sign a couple of FA starting pitchers like Feldman and Colon. DFA Ichiro, Stewart, and Wells and hope Pineda and CC are ok and the farm can provide some BP arms and SP depth.

    That team could compete with some decent health (lg avg). Might put them over 189 but saving 10-29 million on tax is not smart if it costs you 50 million or more in lost revenue

  20. ant928 September 26th, 2013 at 7:13 am

    I wonder what the Steinbrenner statement will be…or if there will be one.

  21. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:40 am

    I have officially been eliminated from watching MLB until next season

    Maybe the WS depending on who is in it

    But the postseason without the Yankees is like beer without hops

  22. blake September 26th, 2013 at 7:40 am

    ant928 says:
    September 26, 2013 at 7:13 am
    I wonder what the Steinbrenner statement will be…or if there will be one.

    The injuries killed us….we still believe this is a championship club when healthy…..blah blAh blah

  23. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:42 am

    Eliminated? As Mortimer said in Trading Places
    “Turn those machines back on! Turn those machines back ON!”

  24. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:45 am

    Our pitching sure put a lot of money in hitters pockets this year

    With 162 games against us, what would longo, loney, Myers, Napoli, Rajai, fill in the blank, have done against us?

  25. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:47 am

    If the cardinals win this year, I’d say that cements them as the best franchise right now

  26. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    99% of these female cops couldn’t chase down and subdue me (without a gun or taser) , let alone a real bad guy who can run

  27. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    I honestly don’t care of giro leaves for Chicago

    His triple is so long ago that it seems like a different him, and me

  28. blake September 26th, 2013 at 7:53 am

    I hope Girardi stays…..he’s not the problem

  29. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:53 am

    I’d rather watch Robinson cano’s father pitch than hughes

  30. sunny615 September 26th, 2013 at 7:54 am

    The 2013 SubYankees. Hope you choke on it Hal. Thanks for the mediocre season and team.

  31. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Every manager makes 500 questionable, second guessable decisions each season but Giro only hit about .200 on his this year. His performance looks spotty because the players didn’t cooperate…but his performance looks spotty

  32. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    I see 3 main weaknesses in Girardi’s management style :

    1) His over reliance on veterans

    2) Poor in-game feel. Especially for when to pull starters.

    3) Doesn’t manage w a sense of urgency appropriately.

    His biggest strengths are his BP management and Loyalty.

  33. John in Ohio September 26th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    If there is not a lot of interest in Hughes, the Yankees should consider bringing him back on a one-year deal, changing his role, and using him out of the bullpen. He was great out of the pen in 2009. I love Robertson, but he is no sure bet as a closer. Let’s stockpile some options.

    Hughes is a stand-up guy, who has never made excuses. He’s still only 27, and has been a Yankee for nearly 10 years. Whatever unfolds, best of luck to him.

  34. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:04 am

    John-

    27 is kind of young to give up on a guy.

    But I really think Hughes would benefit from a change of scenery.

    I can see him blossoming somewhere else.

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

  35. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    MTU,

    Girardi’s team consistently overachieve IMO…..they did this year just being in contention at all and they did last year making it to the ALCS……he’s a good manager who was given a bunch of lemons his year and asked to go win with them

  36. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:07 am

    If I’m Hughes’s agent I’m strongly pushing him to take a 1 year deal in the NL west

  37. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Blake-

    I’m not opposed to Girardi returning.

    He has his flaws as they all do but has generally done a solid job.

    Would not surprise me if he seeks a job in Chicago.

    Pena would do an excellent job if Joe leaves.

  38. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    I don’t think Hughes will blossom anywhere

    He’s a one trick pony and not a young 27

    Maybe at 37 he’ll turn valuable to someone like Mike Morgan did

  39. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    I think Pena has as good a resume as anyone
    But wouldn’t part of you like to see Randolph get the job?

  40. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Hassey-

    If he can master the split which he is throwing now he will blossom.

    In a big way.

    Won’t be the least bit surprised if it happens.

    Guess you will.

    ;)

  41. John in Ohio September 26th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    MTU – I completely agree with you. But, if there is not a lot of interest out there, the Yanks should at least think about it.

    I do think someone else will take a chance on him, though. Think: west coast. Perhaps San Diego.

  42. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:14 am

    No. I want the guy who has a ton of experience and has been right in the thick of things.

    I think all the players respect Pena and would be on board w it.

    And Pena knows the Team as well as Girardi.

  43. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Honestly I think if Girardi leaves they will have a worse manager next year as I can’t think of anyone available that’s as good

  44. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    The owner is who needs replacing

  45. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    John-

    I have little doubt about the interest.

    Anyone looking at Hughes track record will know he is not anywhere near this bad.

    I’d expect a multi-year deal from someone out West.

    But it wouldn’t hurt me to see if he would give us a discount to return.

  46. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Blake-

    Pena would do a terrific job but I am OK w keeping Girardi.

    And you are basically right. He is not the major problem.

    It’s those above him.

    ;)

  47. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    I think Hughes will only be back if there just isn’t any interest and he can’t get a decent deal somewhere else…..as I said I think the smartest thing for him to do woukd be to take a 1 year deal in the NL west to re establish his value and then enter the market again at 28

  48. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    I’m ready to see a lot of changes.

    Newman- gone.

    Levine- No involvement w baseball ops

    Cashman- Kicked upstairs somewhere

    The odds Hal does all these things ?

    Slightly above zero.

    :(

  49. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:22 am

    A team would have to be plain crazy not to take the risk of a 1 yr. deal w Hughes.

    Too bad the QO amount is so high or we should offer it.

  50. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Maybe the Yankees will hire away the MiLB development director from a successful Team and let him bring in his own people.

    ;)

  51. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    Failure brings on change.

  52. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    The shift in philosophy over the last 3 or 4 years is the problem…..the Yankees has a winning formula that had been successful for almost 2 decades and then Hal comes along and decides he’s so smart he can change it and still win and keep fans happy.

    The Yankees haven’t been a player development club since the mid 90s…..they have sustained success by continually upgrading the club through free agency and in turn making tons of money by selling winning and star power.

    Once the investments in star players stopped the team got old in a hurry….

    You can’t just go from their old formula to a player development formula overnight……it was always gonna take time and honestly if that’s what they want to do they will need to fall back in the standings to get some good young talent in the system….

    Of course the easiest thing would be to simply spend money to remain competitive until the organization is ready to cut payroll in a healthy way…..

  53. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    Blake-

    That may be true but I’ll be surprised if 189 is tossed away this OS.

    Bet you will be too.

    ;)

  54. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Hal has the perfect cover story to continue on the path he has been on.

    It’s the injuries stupid.

    I think he’ll use it and stick w 189.

    Prove me wrong Hal. I dare ya’.

    ;)

  55. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    If only Nunez could field because it looks like he can hit.

    :(

  56. sunny615 September 26th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Hughes has a straight fastball, and a cutter. They both top out at 92. He’s not overpowering. He rarely uses his curve anymore and even rarer is his changeup. Decent pitchers have 3 or 4 pitches, change speeds and eye levels. Right now Hughes does none of that. He needs an A) bigger ballpark, B) weaker league, C) a real pitching coach, and D) the ability to step back and really learn how to pitch (not just throw). He needs to become Mussina who used to throw hard when young, but when he lost velocity, threw 4 different pitches at different speeds and eye levels to beat hitters. I remember reading an article about Mussina where a great hitter was being interviewed about Mussina and when asked what he thought of Mussina’s four pitches, he replied – Four?!? I thought I saw 6 or 7 different pitches…

    Until that happens, Hughes’ future is severely limited.

  57. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Adams has been a huge disappointment so far.

    I hope he improves.

    Another guy who isn’t as bad as he has shown.

  58. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    And yes I don’t give a crap about the posting limit today after last night’s loss.

    ;)

  59. austinmac September 26th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    MTU,

    Leaving today. I did put my money on the team not making the playoffs.

    McCann seems like a big need to me, but I do wonder if the team is willing to give up their lowest draft pick in years. If they are not willing, I don’t know what they can do but go international.

  60. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    MTU says:
    September 26, 2013 at 8:32 am
    If only Nunez could field because it looks like he can hit.

    Eh he hits a ball really hard every now and then that sticks in folks minds and gives the illusion that he can hit……if he could field his bat could maybe play at SS ….barely……but I refuse to lower my standards to the point where I’ll call Nunie a big league regular for the Yankees

  61. Chambliss September 26th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    If he can stay healthy, Hughes will be a very good pitcher in the National League where the lineups are shorter and less potent. Pitching in the A.L. East is brutal with Boston, Tampa, Baltimore and even Toronto with tough lineups. Hughes has zero confidence right now, and he appears to have given up. If he goes to the National League and gets the right coaching, his confidence and motivation will soar and he will become the pitcher that Yankee fans had hoped for back in the days of Joba, Kennedy and Hughes.

    As for the team as a whole, you get the sense that they need to clean house the way that the Red Sox did last year. The dead wood has to go. That means Wells, Ichiro, Stewart, Overbay, A-Rod and maybe Girardi all have to go. Bring in a manager who will give younger players a chance and get a few free agents who can bring some energy to the team and the fanbase.

    Let’s face it. The Yankees have done a piss poor job of developing players. Aside from Cano, Gardner and maybe Nunez, they have done very poorly in this department.

  62. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Sunny-

    Hughes needs the same thing he has needed for quite some time.

    One more effective off speed pitch.

    For his sake I’m hoping that’s Mr. Splitty which he has just started throwing.

    Or a 2 seamer.

    I’m amazed he hasn’t used a 2 -seamer.

    Like Squat has said here. Very easy to learn.

  63. blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    “McCann seems like a big need to me, but I do wonder if the team is willing to give up their lowest draft pick in years”

    I agree…..I think Cashman will guard that mid round pick with his life and then they’ll probably draft some guy nobody has heard of with it……

    Had the sold at the deadline and played youngsters down the stretch maybe they would have lost enough to get a protected top 10 pick……and then they could sign McCann without giving the pick and they’d have all the players they traded for……but no almost making the playoffs was much better…..I feel better because they missed it by 5 instead of 10+

  64. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Mac-

    Have a great vacation.

    We’ll just have to see what the OS brings.

    I think we need to start the rebuilding process this OS.

    Changes are definitely needed. No question.

    :)

  65. Your Name Here September 26th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    10 years. $305M.
    Yikes.

  66. austinmac September 26th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    It is curious Hughes, who gives up far to many fly balls, never threw a two seamer. He is a one above average pitch pitcher. He rarely gets swings and misses at off speed stuff.

  67. sunny615 September 26th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Yeah – the problem MTU, is that Hughes rarely does anything. He abandoned his changeup after all of 2 or 3 games. His monster curve all but disappeared after being promoted. His slider was meh and never got better and his mentality was to go back to his fastball and cutter. He’s like a thinner Joba except in love with his cutter instead of Joba’s slider. the problem is, they don’t throw 95 and up like they did as kids.

  68. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Blake-

    You sound frustrated. Can’t say I blame you.

    It has been an injured-plagued season though.

    A new direction and a renewal are sorely needed.

  69. Against All Odds September 26th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    blake September 26th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    —————————–

    I can’t for the life of me understand why Hal doesn’t realize that. You’re right it has been a process that started a few yrs ago. Fans point to 189 but it goes beyond that. The draft, IFAs, etc. I mean Hal won’t even take on money mid season unless the opposing team eats a portion of it. I can understand when it comes to guys like Ichiro but when it comes to players like Hinske wtf. The Pirates sent over 400k with him

  70. austinmac September 26th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Many teams have gotten burned lately with huge long term contracts with guys in their 30s, Pujols and Hamilton as two recent examples. Cano is a great player, but I do not see anyone offering him eight or more years. If the Yankees don’t sign him it will be because they wouldn’t pay market value. That would be the final nail on the next several years.

  71. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Sunny-

    Hughes always did like to tinker.

    I think he has done way too much of that.

    And you’re right. His stuff was better earlier on.

    But I don’t think it’s too late for him.

    He just needs to find what works and stick w it.

    Unfortunately, it’s not likely to be w us.

  72. austinmac September 26th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Hal seems to get more pleasure from the books than from the team, and we wonder why the team is going downhill. CBS was just the same. It took a dozen years and a new owner to recover.

    I do doubt we will sacrifice a first round pick. They want it so Cashman and Newman can make another surprise pick of someone not rated in the top 100 players.

  73. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Mac-

    As long as the bottom line is not in danger I don’t see Hal and Co. changing things too much.

    And with Bozo the clown (Levine) coming up w gimmicks all the time that seems unlikely.

    This thing seems more like a marketing venue than a baseball team right now.

    FWIS the wrong people are calling the shots.

    I would like to see that change.

    Not holding my breath though.

  74. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Where is Mark Cuban when you need him ?

    :)

  75. Against All Odds September 26th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    They want it so Cashman and Newman can make another surprise pick of someone not rated in the top 100 players.

    —————–

    Cash: This guy was rated number 1 on our board and according to our analysis he has top of the rotation potential but it’s a process……

    or if he is a position player

    Cash: This player has all the tools to be a major league star for the next 14 yrs but I want fans to realize he’s a long ways away and it’s a process….

  76. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Jeter.

    If you retire.

    You need to pull a Magic Johnson and buy this Team.

    :)

  77. MTU September 26th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    El otro ——>

  78. austinmac September 26th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    MTU,

    My only hope is they recognize the bottom line will be significantly affected by losing. They are down 3,500 per games, six times more than the average team. If fan wishes get ignored and the team looks like a second tier(or third), it will decline much more next year.

    If the team doesn’t have panache, will the big companies invest in tickets as before? It doesn’t look like many are using them, as is.

    I don’t know if my numbers are close to accurate, but if the average fan expenditure is $100, then the decline resulted in a $28M income loss.

  79. 4TrainNorth September 26th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    While watching the bottom of the 8th last night it occurred to me just how few “big hits” this team managed to come up with this year. Bases loaded for Grandyman, and to be honest I didn’t have any hope that he would come through. Just that kind of year, I guess. Just not that much fun to watch, or that much fun being had on the field. Gonna watch tonight to see Mo (hopefully) pitch in the Stadium one last time. For the love of God, can we get one more win there?

  80. blake September 26th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    MTU,

    I am frustrated …..and not even really by this season….I’m frustrated by the fact that it seems like there isn’t much hope for improvement in the near future.

    I’ve said this before but I’m fairly certain had Boston been in the situation the Yankees were then they would have sold at the deadline and tried to get better for the future……good teams self evaluate well…..they don’t lie to themselves about who they are and that’s what the Yankees did this year

  81. Hassey September 26th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Why would Hughes fdo well in the NL? Why the continuing misconception that lineups are so much less potent in the NL?

    Because he’d mow down Atlanta, Washington, the Reds, Cardinals, Pirates, Dodgers, even AZ and a healthy Giants team? Or at Coors?

  82. ant928 September 26th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    I’ve got no (major) problem with Girardi coming back either but I’d hope to see the following:

    1. Stop relying on the veterans and develop the kids.
    2. Don’t be AS loyal. Stop “running them out there”. A skid is one thing but 0-14? SOMETHING is wrong.
    3. USE REAL NAMES!!!! If I hear Robbie/Novie/Nunie/Georgie one more time I’m gonna PUKE!!!

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